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07/16/2024 Ask the Expert: Celebrating Success with Ross Kirk of Marco Concrete Lifting · WCHS Network Podcasts

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It's a twenty two I'm Jeff Jenkins. Good morning to you, and
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welcome to Ask the Expert. And today okay, okay, and today we
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are going to talk to Ross Kirk, owner and founder Marco Concrete Lifting,
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and he is here in the studio and good morning, sir. How are
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you doing, sir? I'm beating the heat. Well, you know,
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he is no, he's no stranger to the air here and it's great to
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have him in here this morning to talk about what he does and a business
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owner, you know, which is great. And so we're going to talk
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about a little bit of the history of the company because i'd like to like
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you'd like to hear about that and exactly what they do at Marco Concrete lifting.
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And if you're a listener, and we have so many faithful listeners,
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they know your jingle. Oh yeah, yeah, they know your song.
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Yes, yeah. What's the history of that, by the way, Well
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you all did it, yeah in two thousand and two. Yeah, and
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I, I mean, I can't stand it, but everybody else, everybody
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else loves it. Yeah know, I'm thinking I don't like that, but
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that's a twenty things been on the air for twenty twenty two years now.
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Yeah, and I never did like it, but it's but I mean it's
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it's catchy. It's catchy, Yes, it did, it is it is
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very much so it really is catchy. And I'm sure that a lot of
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our folks who are out there listening right now, they're singing it right now.
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Yeah. I used to play that. I used to pound the air
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with that right before the home shows, right, and you knew it was
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working when you'd hear people they'd looked at my you know, look at my
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booth, and they they start singing that song. And I'm not going to
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sing it because I don't want everybody to quit listening. Well, Ross is
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good to have you in here this morning. And we were talking before the
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show and just wow, going almost forty years of owning of owning a business,
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right, almost forty years now twenty eight years, almost thirty years,
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okay, almost thirty years. What does it? First of all, let's
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go back to that. What what did you do? What did you do
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before that? And what caused you to make that decision? Well, I
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was in the I was in the car business for years and years, and
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I worked for Tom Pete and Chevrolet and back the fan days, and it
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just you know, I got to where I was having a family and this
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now nine to nine, you know, eight days a week, was just
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getting getting old. And I went to I went out to a friend of
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mine's house and I said, what is that truck? And he said,
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oh, that's a pressure grouting machine. And I never heard the term ever.
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This was in ninety six, and I said what does it do?
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And you know, I'd got to get into play golf or go fishing cause
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we loved bass fish together. And he said, boy, it raised his
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concrete and I went, you know, I brushed it off two or three
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times later, I said what what does that thing do? Actually, because
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I wouldn't get close to it it was so dirty. And he said,
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I'm gonna do my brother's driveway. You know where it goes into the garage.
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It dropped down an inch and he said, I drew holes and mix
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up grout, pumping in there and it comes up. I said, okay,
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I got to see this. I've got to see this. And and
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he said, well when I tell you, just turned the pump on and
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it raised that driveway right up. And I said, how many people do
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this in West Virginia because I was about done with the car business. He
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said no one. I went ding the light went off and built one of
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the trucks. Knew absolutely nothing about grouting. I thought, grouting is what
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you put in tile, and and we we started to company in and he
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quit three weeks after we started, and I said okay, and he moved
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away with his what is now his wife, And I said, how am
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I going to do this? I know nothing about this, and I've got
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a pregnant wife. I'm thinking, oh, this is not gonna be near
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as much fun as I thought it was going to be. And then,
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you know, one thing led to another and I learned how to do it.
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Actually, it's the way I learned how to do this. He taught
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me a little bit before he left. But then we got into still peering,
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and he looked peering and I would I didn't. I mean, I
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knew how to advertise working at Tom Peden all those years, who was a
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great advertiser. Yeah, yeah, but I didn't know how to how do
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you advertise raising sunken concrete. So I would go to like Cincinnati, or
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i'd go to Louisville or Pittsburgh, and I'd get a room and i'd look
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in the phone book because I had phone books back then, and I go
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to foundation repair and I cut their ads out of the phone book in the
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motel room, and then I would go with binoculars and find their you know
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address, and they go out and I kind of look at them with a
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binocular and I thought, Wow, this is something. And I take the
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ads home and and I put these ads together. And I don't really know
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how to build an ad, but I know I know when I see it
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right, and it's We started out lifting sidewalks and you know, garage floors,
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basement floors, and then got into steel peering, push peering that lifts
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foundations, and then got into you know, fast forward a little bit,
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got into abandoned coal mine grouting, auger grouting, auger hole grouting, and
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then sprang concrete on faces of coal mines. And then the coal boom hit
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and we were like wow, okay, and had twenty eight men at one
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time we had two miney had like seven or eight guys on a mining crew
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and three foundation crews and had just I was determined that I was in not
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going back in the car business. What's great. What's interesting about that ross
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is that you're intrigued right from the beginning. When you saw that, you
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were like, what's that? Yes, it did something to me. I
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don't know, the grout coming out the end of a hose and watching it
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go up, and watching piling go on the ground and then you lift the
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house back up level and I'm thinking, you know, this was And then
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got into concrete pumping. I actually bought statewide concrete pumping. Was had boom
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pumps and trailer pumps and everything was you know, going at a at a
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record pace, and twenty ten hit and I went, oh lord, and
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I've got kids in school and I've got kids getting ready to go to college,
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and fought through that, and then it came back. And then the
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last last few years just been the last few years of the toughest three years
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I've had in twenty eight twenty nine years. But you're persevering. I mean,
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so you you tell the story. I mean, your circumstances are different,
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but these are small business owner stories you're telling, right, I mean
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you built it. I mean you're a concrete lifting guy, so you built
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it from the foundation, literally first guy to do it. And I was
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the first guy to do it it, you know, at any kind of
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scale, anytime of scale. Yeah, any scale of it. But I
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remember coming in here in two thousand or two thousand and one, and I
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think Scott Schaeffer worked here, I think, And I said, I want
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to advertise this. He said, okay, what's your budget? And I
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said, I got six hundred dollars. He said, well, six hundred
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dollars a month is a pretty I know that's a year. But the one
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thing about advertising, and I learned that at Tom Peters Chevrolet, is once
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you started, never quit it of mine top of mind, right, top
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of mind awareness, and if you're going to start advertising. I've seen so
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many people that start and do it for three or four months. Well that
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don't work. I said, well, yeah, it will work. But
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it's it's just like your truck payments or your you know, equipment payments,
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or your you know rent whatever attacks. You know, you have to pay
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it. You have to do it continuously, continuously, continuously. Now you
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know, twenty eight years later and almost two million dollars in advertising, you
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know, mark a concrete lifting is a household word. Yeah, it is
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just top of mind absolutely if this is going to happen to you and and
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you see, I mean you this area, and I don't know if it's
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just because we're a lot of us on a hillside here, right, I
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mean there are a lot of slippings or a lot of things that, yes,
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that need lifted. Yeah. Well, and in our geographical region,
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the clay that we have here is so expansive. And you know in the
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you know, people saved a lot of times. Well my door sticks when
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it's in the winter, in the summer, whatever, Well, it's your
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the clay is going up and down. It's and and the way I explain
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it to like housewives, I said, you know, this this clay around
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here is like bread dough or flower. You know, in the summertime when
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this dries out, houses drop. In the wintertime, when that clay expands
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gets wet, it pushes in basement walls. So you know, in the
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wintertime we do you know, bowed walls. In the summertime, we have
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a lot, especially a year like this. Yeah, I was going to
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talk about ross Kirk with us here, Mark Marco concrete lifting. Very dry
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weather we're having, and some people may think, well, but this is,
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as you mentioned, the worst time for slipping down right. This is
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this is when a year like we're having now, like last year, when
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you have a super hot, dry year and you see the ground cracking and
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you see the earth plowing away from your sidewalk, it's it's just a matter
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of time for things start to settle. And of course it's vacation season right
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now. And I've said this many times, there's two things you're not going
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to compete with around here, and that's myrtle beach of Santa Claus. But
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you got, you know, everybody think all spring, everything's kick off.
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Now we stay steady. Now right right now, it's kind of slow.
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What what russ. What are some of the things we should look for if
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my house is slipping or something? I mean, what are what are some
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of the signs. A lot of things that you'll see is you know,
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if you have a brick house, you'll see cracking around windows open not un
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rigid areas, or you'll see a crack in your sheet rock around a window
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and then it goes into you know, many different facets from that, but
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those are the number one things that you'll see. Or you you know,
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one side of the house is start getting a little bit lower, and then
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you do the investigative work and you see cracks in your brick or cracks in
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your sheet rock, and that's you know, it's not gonna get it's not
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gonna fix yourself. I mean, I can't, like I tell people,
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I can't say it's gonna get any worse, but I can take it.
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It's not gonna get any better. Right, So you know, it's it's
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water your house, right right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so
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when you like, if you get the call, you come in and there's
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good of I mean part of what you do. It's investigation, right,
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there's an investigation. Talk about that if you will Well. You know,
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the call comes in and I'm the one does the estimates now, and they
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say I'm an expert at it now. But you know, I can go
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out and look, and I've been looking to stuff, you know, pushing
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three decades, and I'm like, I can when I pull up as many
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of these as I've looked at over you as I can just about tell from
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the driveway. And and you know there's some sometimes that I just tell them,
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I know this house is doing something it shouldn't. I do not know
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what it's doing. But you know, here's a list of engineers that you
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can call one of them. Jared Gray's one. He's a great engineer.
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Jason Merritt's a great one. Jennifer Casey's a good one. And I say,
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I'd rather them come in here, because you know, when I can't
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figure it out, I'm not going to spend your money, right because if
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I if you tell me to go ahead and do it, I'm old kill
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it. So I make sure I catch it all right. But a lot
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of times I'm not a lot. But you know a few times I'm like,
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I know it's doing something. I just don't know. We're to spend
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your money, so you know, but that's doesn't happen often. Many times
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you can figure it out. Yeah, most of the time. Ninety percent
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of the time I can figure it out. It might sometimes it takes this
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one house I did in Catlisburg. I went back to that thing five times,
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and I finally and I take the guys that I have working for him.
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It's I've been there twenty over twenty years, and take I said,
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here, what do we got going on? And there's been a few times
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we all walk away scratching our hasts. Here you need to call on these
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engineers cause you got ground and structures and pressures, and they can all do
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different types of things. And you have hillsides. This is not you know,
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Florida, Georgia, a lot of places where I've learned it's flat.
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But in West Virginia you have a cut and fill a lot and cut outside
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of the mountain, build a house up against it, put to fill out
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front, and it's this is this is a different, different animal around here.
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Right Ross Kirks with us Marco Concrete Lifting just now thirty years owner and
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operator of this business and helped dozens and dozens and dozens of homeowners. Yes.
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Yeah, And I would like to thank all the people in the valley
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and the tri State area for having, you know, competence and faith in
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us to fix you know, their home, because that's, you know,
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home is a pretty big investment. Oh yeah. And we were talking before
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we went on the Aaron Ross was talking about, you know, thinking that
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sometimes you've seen it all, and you've kind of even this year, you've
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seen some things that you know, if you could share some of that a
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little bit. It's some of the stuff that we uncover when we go to
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do the home and a lot of times, you know, I'm looking at
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it, me and the homeowner, we're just you know, standing in the
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yard looking at the house, trying to figure out what's going on. I
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get a good grasp of it. We'll start the project and I'll have one
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of my foremans say, hey, boss, you need to come down here
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and see this. I said, what is it? He said, you
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did not gonna believe this one. And I'm thinking, oh, you know,
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I've seen everything and to get into the details of it and nobody will
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understand. I mean, I've seen two storyhouses built on patios with no footer.
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I've seen h I mean, it's just vast what I've seen in if
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you can cover it with dirt or if you can cover it up with concrete.
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A lot of times, you know, people do that front porches.
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Those are trash cans. You know, when you're building a house, everything
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goes in the front porch foundation. Then you put sand or gravel in it
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and put it concrete, and that stuff deteriorates. And we've fixed probably more
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front porches and than we have anything. Garage floors where they used to use
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when I guess aimis used to get flash away years before they figured out you
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could use this stuff. Garage floors build on flash just after time and stuff
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compresses, dries out, compresses, and then you know, we go in
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and drew holes in it, pump growd in it, lift it, lift
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it right back up right. Wow. And I'm sure the homeowners look at
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that and they're wide eyed and amazed what happens. Oh yeah, And it
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is as actually, you know, as far as the steel piers that we
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put in and the helical piers that we put in and and the grouting.
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It's all this. You know, people think this is a big deal,
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This is going to be this and that, and when you see us do
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this, it is And I've told many people I said, this is so
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simple, stupid. It's just knowing how when we're to do lot, when
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to do what because it's slow, you know, and everybody wants, oh,
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I want to be there when you lift the floor, and you know,
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twenty minutes later you can't find anybody to talk to. Ross. So
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this is a simple question to pray has an obvious answer. But what are
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the dangers of not doing anything? If you've noticed some issues? Well,
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you know, I've had a lot of people ask me, you know,
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how long do I have? Well, you know, they don't make the
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batteries for my crystal ball that I used to have. I can't tell you
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how long you have. The only thing I can tell you is it has
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the potential to get worse. It's not going to fix itself. And you
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cannot sell this house until you do that. Until you fix this foundation and
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put this thing on steel piling. As you know, banks won't lean money
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on them anymore. Yeah, So what's the process at Marco Concrete Lifting to
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put the talk about the steel piling? If you would, how you go
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under it work? Just you talk about Well, first, you you know
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you're gonna have a down corner downside, dig it out, see what kind
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of foot you got, Trimmed the foot back to flush with the block,
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amount of bracket to the foot, drive the piling through the bracket one at
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a time and when it hits solid, you let the pressure off that one
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and go the next one. And when you get all that done, the
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prep workers. Lifting the house doesn't take you know, an hour prepping it
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can take a month, you know, or two weeks because you never know
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what you're gonna get into, especially in the older houses like Charleston Huntings and
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some of the old real old blue blood houses. The technology that they and
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and and the processes they're used in the forties are not be always the way
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we see things today. So you know, you get in there, you
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get your lab out done, which I do that prior to. And you
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just started at the furthest you know, the corner of that's down the most
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and that's where you start lifting it. Once you drive the pilon and how
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has that and you mentioned technology, then we're going to take our break after
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you answer this. It's eight forty two ross kirks with us a market concrete
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lifting lifting, How have you How has kind of technology changed in the nearly
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thirty years you've done it, because you know there's certain things. I'm sure
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they've changed. Yeah, there's a at our technology. I still use the
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same system that I did from day one. Yeah, I still got the
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same drout machine. This wore out five or six trucks. The way things
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are built, I mean, I mean, nothing surprises me. Nothing.
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I can't really the technology that some of the stuff that we do is the
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way it was in ninety six when we started in ninety seven, and then
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of course we've evolved with technology as well, but it's the same, basically
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the same thing. But I'll tell you after after last Saturday, nothing surprises
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me anymore. And you know, my heart and prayers goes out to the
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people in Pennsylvania and the Trump family and that was just a horrific scene.
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Yeah, yeah, it really was. But it but I'm sixty five here
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in October and nothing surprises me. Three four, three four, five fifty
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eight fifty eight rosses with us Rock Kirk Ross Kirk of Marco Concrete Lifting.
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We're going to take a run and only break. It's eight forty four three
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one zero five five eight wcchs The Voice of Charleston. It's forty seven and
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we are with Ross Kirky, owner and founder of Marco concrete lifting, local
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company owned and operated and Ross, there's an important date coming up, and
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we're just this is this coming Sunday, your anniversary here right of the business.
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Yes, July twenty first marks twenty eight years. And July twenty first
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is my grandson's eighth birthday. July twenty second is my granddaughter's fifth birthday.
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And since I was here last year, we've got another one. They've got
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a little sister now that's eight months old, seven or eight months old.
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Wow, a little Riley right, and she's she's the prettiest little butterball you've
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ever seen. Good, little baby doesn't cry. So you didn't take after
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your brother and sister. ROSSI when you think back to that time nineteen ninety
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seven, you sign your name on the dotted line based your son in your
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life, I mean this is right. I mean you're putting in was it
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was? It was it scary or you were I mean you had confidence.
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Obviously you knew you could be successful in things. Well, I knew.
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There's a big difference between dedication and discipline. And dedication gets you there,
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discipline keeps you there. I remember I came home, I was done with
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the car business. And I told my wife, I said, I quit
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the car business and I want to build a truck that raises sunken concrete.
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And she looked at me with big tears, and I she said, what
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I said, trust me to work, bear with me, and we incorporated
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July twenty first, nineteen ninety seven. And in that October I was roofing
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helping a friend of mine roof of church, just for food. And she
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pulls up and said, hey, come here, guess what I said.
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You got promoted at at and T. She said, no, I'm pregnant
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and I quit my job. And you talk about heart sinking. And that
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was she was pregnant with our daughter, Zoe, who just passed her board
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and is going, uh is going to be an orthopedic surgeon. Oh wow,
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congratulations. Then yeah, thank you, and she's actually started her rotation.
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And then about two and a half two and a half years later,
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I get to call again, guess what, and I went, oh,
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no, she said, we're having a little boy. I went, oh,
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okay, wow, he said, and she said, well, if
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you wait till you can afford kids, you'll never have one. Now you
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hear that? Yeah, Well, I wish you'd have picked the time.
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When I go from you six figures to four figures a year. Well,
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but you know what, ross it says a lot for you, you know,
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to stick with this. I mean, being a business owner isn't easy.
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No, obviously, there's ups and downs. You described some of those
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early, the ups and downs, things out outside your control. Well,
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the weather, yeah, I mean, you know, and three and four
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with the three was the wettest year in Westvinia history, only to be broken
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in four. And when it rains, houses don't settle, and you know,
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you're only five six years old as far as a business goes. And
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then you know, in twenty eighteen was the wettest year to date. And
27:37
but of course now that's twenty some years later and we're established, excuse me,
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and we had you know, we had worked through that. It was
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hard. I mean when it like two years ago it rained two feet here
27:48
in August, I thought, Lord, and in inflation and the diesel fuel
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for our trucks just is is one of the biggest things you know that we
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have to the biggest hurdle we have is fuel. Yeah, but here you
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are twenty eight years, twenty eight years later, and you're still trucking.
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I mean you're still going, yes, sir, yes, sir. And
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we've got a very good name because we don't. I've been doing this twenty
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eight years, twenty nine years, and I go out and tell people,
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look, let's just fix what little fuss, fix the problem we got here.
28:25
This stuff's not pretty, it's expensive something, it's the other side of
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the house or something happens, you know, eight or ten years down.
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Ready to address it then. But yeah, I started out slab jacking,
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like I said, raising sidewalks and basement floors and garage floors, and that
28:45
went into raising Walmart floors, and I mean, you name it, you
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name it. I've raised it from stamping plant to special metals to I mean,
28:59
it's just it's endless, right, endless, right. I'm getting ready
29:03
to lift a drag strip in Mingo County here in the next couple. Wow,
29:07
dragstrip. Yeah, but a really nice drag strip up on an old
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strip mine. Okay, so it's it's they've already started it. But one
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side went down five inches and I got to go and figure out how to
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get this thing up level. Southern drag race cars now that's a new one.
29:23
Yeah, And it's well, how has that ross? Just being able
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to do I mean houses have been obviously the the you know, the probably
29:34
the most you've had, but just just being able to do other things with
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this because it's technology, right, I mean, it's it's just not houses,
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it's other things. It's it's all the same. Yeah, if there's
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a flat work, if you've got streets, basement floors side, it doesn't
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matter. It doesn't matter. Now some of them are tougher than the other
29:55
ones, but you know, if if there's a structure and it's settling,
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we can move it by cap. If there's flat work, whether it be
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highways, I've done bridges on I sixty four, we had to shut the
30:07
interstate down at night, you know I've done. I mean, it's just
30:15
endless, endless. But we're the ones that they usually call simply because of
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our experience. And when you do a job as a small business owner,
30:26
i mean your that's that's your business. I mean your name's on the line.
30:30
Oh yeah, it's it's done right. Yeah. I mean it might
30:33
not be the cheapest game in town, but you only got to call me
30:36
once. But when we start a job, we don't leave until we're finished.
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I mean, it's not work a day here, day there, and
30:42
we get on a job, we stay on there until it's finished. We
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did I did one for Mayor Jones, Danny Jones beside the big patio beside
30:56
his house and everything on. That truck broke down on Danny Jones's job,
31:02
but we stayed right there until we finished it. I thought, is there
31:06
anything else can go wrong with this track? But now it's it's it's been
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a good business. It's you know, we do a lot of Now people
31:15
are starting to catch on a new construction, putting deep foundations in before you
31:22
pour your footter. So it's you know, sitting on steel piling. We've
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done, drilled, micropiles, grouted, abandoned coal mines, you name it.
31:33
It's it's it's it's vast the stuff that we can do. And I
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just had I understood it from from an early point. I understood it.
31:45
I understood what it takes to do it and how to make it work.
31:51
And that's from many, many, many many days of being on the end
31:56
of that nozzle, watching floors come up and what to do, what not
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to do. It's it's it's it's been a good ride. And well,
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I've been threatened to retire, you know, for about the last five years.
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But I'm you know, you're getting groove of this stuff. It's kind
32:15
of hard to think you'd ever just walk away, right, Well, this
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is something that you created, yes, sir, Yes, sir, it
32:22
is. I was. I was, for lack of a better term,
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the pioneer of this in this valley. And there's a couple of other people
32:30
that did a little bit here and there. But to do it at at
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the at the at the at the volume that we've done it, and and
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the the many, many, many services that we can do and we don't
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pour concrete. I learned that early on. That's hard work. But it's
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uh, it's been good to me. It's been stressed full, you know
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sometimes. But you've helped people. I mean, you're in the business of
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helping people. And I'm sure they're satisfaction in that too. When people have
33:08
a bad foundation problem, they are panic stricken, and I try to put
33:15
them at ease a little bit. I say, hey, look, it's
33:17
not gonna fall down today. Let me let me look at this, let
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me figure out what we can do. And you know, but they panic
33:25
when they said, big crack in the side of the house. Oh no,
33:29
they're sheet rock cracks. And I think to calm down, it's taking
33:34
this long to do this. It's not you know, it's not going to
33:37
implode or fall down tomorrow. So you try to put people to the east
33:40
for us, right, yeah, because it happened to my house. I
33:43
bought my first house in Saint Albans. Well it was my third house,
33:46
but my first one in Saint Albans, and two months later had to put
33:50
twelve peers under my own house. So it can happen to anybody, right
33:54
right now, it's it's uh, it's it's good. But like I said,
34:00
I say, I'm going to retire when I'm sixty seven. It was
34:05
sixty five now it's sixty seven, so you know, I'll probably be around
34:08
for until I can't do it anymore. What is the best way to contact
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Macro Concrete Lifting? What is the best way to get a hold of you
34:17
guys? Three oh four seven two two L I f T there you go
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seven to two lift. It's you know, there's a lot operator right,
34:30
every time you call, you'll get somebody. Yeah, you know it might
34:34
be me, but we have operators, intake operators, try to get a
34:38
feel for your problem. Yeah, and then you'll go out and take a
34:42
look. Somebody will come out and take a look, right, look,
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Jackson County yesterday, Mingo County last week. I've done work from Virginia to
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Washington, PA, to Jackson, Ohio, pipe of Kentucky. I mean,
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we go, we go anywhere anywhere right, anywhere, right right,
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and take a look at it. And sometimes and just real quick, you're
35:07
wrong. Sometimes the problem may not be as bad as people think that is
35:10
correct, and they're scared to death and I said, I have this is
35:14
nothing. And a lot of times they think something's going on. I say,
35:16
well, you know, I can tell you that you got a bad
35:21
problem, but enjoy your house. You don't have a problem. Seeing I've
35:25
had people, you know, I've had people start crying. I swear I've
35:32
had people start crying and thinking at their house. I said, there's nothing
35:37
wrong with it. Well, but yeah, it's it's been a good business.
35:42
Yeah, it's been a good business. And I'm glad that. You
35:45
know, again, think the people in this area that tries that area,
35:49
that has had faith in my company and has faith in us because and you
35:54
can tell that it's the ethics that's been there because ninety percent of my work
36:00
is word of mouth. Yes, oh, I still pound advertising, right,
36:04
which we appreciate. Yeah, I don't. I learned how to advertise
36:09
in the car business, and I knew that when you advertise, you don't
36:14
stop. You just keep going a little bit, a lot, a little
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bit of whatever you get order right, right, right, but don't stop.
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Right. Well, it's good seeing you. Hey, congratulations on the
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new grand baby, yes, thank you. And and the two that are
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getting older now right yeah, yeah, yeah, and congratulations on your business
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anniversary that's coming up coming up on Sunday, your business anniversary. So it's
36:37
nice to meet you. I've heard you on the air before, and of
36:38
course i've heard your song. Yeah, I've heard your name. I've never
36:43
met because you're the Dale Cooper but uh, it was it was. It
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was good to meet you, and thank you very much, all right,
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Ross, thank you a lot. Don't forget Marco Concrete lifting. You can
36:53
go also to Marcoconcrete dot com. Yes it's their website. Okay, news
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