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Astrology, Divine Timing & Understanding Your Life’s Purpose With Monica Milewski · The Liftoff Experience Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Astrological divine timing um guiding us into understanding the purpose and the why of like there is a divine force that is guiding our development into that higher alignment, but when you don't know it, it is like you have to rely on the intuition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you go through many years of the same cycle, same person that you're dating, the job is still stagnant and you're not growing, you're not getting closer to your success.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you understand your divine design and the astrological timing of when certain areas of life are most activated, or when you might want to take a step back and actually do the inner work and heal deeper, then you're flowing with life instead of always trying to control it and resist.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: Monica, welcome to Lift Off Experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: How are you?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so great to be uh be here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm great to have you here too.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were actually just talking too before we started, because I was just like, I love how blunt you are.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we were just talking a little bit about that process.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's so true because I think so many people out there think they need to be someone they're not because of social norms.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, because the coach, or because this person, because that person, or because someone I follow says this or that, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I can't wait to get into mindset, astrology, feminine, masculine, all the things, but I want to get into your story first.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to go, I want to go into your story, learn about you, to how you got to where you are, because it sounds like you went through a lot of personal development, a lot of shadow work to be able to like now be a light for other people so they can shine bright too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's always a personal story to everybody who's trying to help others lift them up, right?
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, I would say I was a lot more of a loner growing up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey, me too.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, surprise, surprise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but as a Leo, that's very shocking to hear that someone's very shy and reserved and withdrawn.
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  SPEAKER_00: And because the stereotype is a Leo is wanting attention all the time and trying to be in the spotlight.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm actually like, actually, please do not look at me.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh my god.
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  SPEAKER_00: Worried about you rejecting me, not liking me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in fact, that is the full spectrum of Leo energy, is going from withdrawn to really over the top and performative.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the balanced Leo is right in the middle, being able to shine bright just as you are, and not worried, like and not worried about whether someone's going to say you're too much or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, my journey, I would say the core of it is really stepping into and embodying this Leo energy, which from a young age was really rather difficult for me.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would say a lot of that was due to just my upbringing, a lot of suppressive energies around me and you know, not having the support around me to say, hey, I encourage you to develop a self-confidence.
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  SPEAKER_00: I encourage you to put yourself out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So instead it was always criticism or you're not good enough, or all of this that then gets internalized as my program of like, okay, so if I truly believe this because everyone else is telling me, then I shouldn't go for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't do these things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's kind of like um this study where they took fleas and they put them in a jar.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so growing up, they would just jump as high as the jar.
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  SPEAKER_00: They take them out of the jar because they were conditioned that that's as far as they could go.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: They kept jumping that high.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They didn't go higher, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of how it was for me where I got out of the jar.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's my 20s, I'm in college, now I have more freedom to be me, but I still am not embodied in that fullness of who I could be and my potential.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I had to be the one, because no one around me is pushing me to go past that and deal with the discomfort.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh so it sounds like maybe like also your parents, like your parents had tools, or maybe you know, they were put in the jar, you know, hypothetically, and they only knew what they knew.
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  SPEAKER_02: So they were projecting on you.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like it takes a certain type of person like yourself to start breaking cycles.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you broke that cycle to say, hey, no, I can jump higher.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna stay at the ceiling of the jar, which is amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So going back into a little bit of like, if you don't mind, going back into athleticists before like you got into like high school, like so, brothers and sisters, are you always been here, Arizona?
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  SPEAKER_00: I am from Chicago.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, my parents are immigrants from Poland.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I heard a little bit of accent, so I wasn't sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe, maybe you can hear it still.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, I do speak Polish.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so it is that immigrant mindset, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Of be more cautious and get good grades and perform and do your best because here we are trying to give you your best life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I do have a younger brother as well, and so pretty much very quickly, it turned me into the parentified child, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I have to be the one to help my parents if they don't understand something, or have to help my brother.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there was a lot of pressure as the oldest and and the daughter, the first daughter of this immigrant family to succeed.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but as we'll talk about in my astrology, that that doesn't set me up for true success as far as the uh stress and the pressure to be that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I absolutely have avenues where I can use some of my energies to still push forward, be ambitious, be strong and courageous.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, things got a little twisted growing up in that sense that I wasn't allowed to be myself at ease in a more peaceful way, where I was able to blossom more naturally.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow, a lot of pressure, it sounds like, especially because you come here and then you know, learning a new language, being the being the oldest, and then trying to like be there for the family.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like looking at you, because you know, of course, you go to schools and you start getting more involved within society and the schools and what have you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you're learning, so you're learning English at the same time, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Going through that whole process.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was born here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you were okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: They came here, uh, they met here and then I was born here and voila.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: But uh so I I was more adept at speaking English, let's say, because I was like, I got it, got it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I wasn't sure if you came from Poland and then came here and then already got it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I would say the values were very instilled in me from you know their European upbringing and their culture.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say I definitely have that like European-American culture behind things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but that also leads to a very strong religious upbringing, which is of course a big part of also the uh difference in me being able to fully just be myself and having uh Catholic Catholic.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: Catholic, okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow, interesting, interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of these pressures and social norms and and what it's supposed to be, but realistically, I mean a lot of people out there, I can't wait to get deeper into the astrology later in the show, don't understand that there's tools that we have access to with astrology that can help us in so many different ways.
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  SPEAKER_02: And some people might say it's woo-woo or whatever the case may be, but let this be a testimonial for any viewers and listeners out there, like it's here's the case, you know, we're gonna go through the whole story, and then you could take it or leave it for your will.
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  SPEAKER_02: But at the end of the day, it sounds like you learned some things.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so, what was the turning point when you're going through all this process and it was a lot of it seems like a lot of turbulence?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, uh, was there ever a breaking point?
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  SPEAKER_02: Enough is enough, or you just kept going through it.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there was definitely enough is enough, especially going into college.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just like, I finally have some freedom.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can be more independent, I can be more of my Leo and my Aries energy, which is that fire.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I'm not constrained and contained in this safe environment like a cocoon, right?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: The safety and the parents, uh yeah, it's like, okay, well, you'll be safe and everything will be great, but you don't get the skill set to actually go into the real world and deal with all that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um it's like a full swing to the opposite end.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whereas I grew up so um restricted and contained, and then I just want to like be free, like a free bird and explore things.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we all do that, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the way we grow up.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I would say that the pressure of it is that there wasn't a lot of other support around me because I was so isolated and contained.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, to say, have the friends or the mentors or other experiences that I could lean on.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it was just like me in an open ocean, like where do I go?
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  SPEAKER_00: What do I do?
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  SPEAKER_00: I I am excited about all this freedom, but I'm also terrified at the same time because, like I said, I was very shy and anxious.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it it was just okay, go to school, do your, you know, do your grades um as well as you can.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that still wasn't successful for the long term as far as life.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the breaking point for me was um, I would say my first heartache because I was so contained.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'm I'm a huge lover.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I love like a Leo to the depth of my heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, it was really tough to like have that rejection come in because that's a part of life.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for me, it was because I felt it so strongly and my parents weren't there emotionally to support me in figuring this out.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I just went deep into my Scorpio energy, like, what is this heartache and just very deep in the pain?
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  SPEAKER_00: But I got stuck there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so there was a lot of, let's say, an alter ego time frame for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we go deeper into that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, like, what did that look like?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was me not being able to transform the sadness and the pain, okay, and then trying to find other avenues to deal with it, but not in the healthiest way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Would you say like those avenues would be like looked at, or could you look at it from like the perspective of a distraction?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, because when you're Scorpio, you're so connected to that feeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can just sit in it, sit in it, sit in it to where after a couple years of depression, I was like, I I just have to snap out of it, but I wasn't in a healthier place in a higher frequency.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I use like, let's say, alcohol or dating around and things like that to distract me from just still sitting with the fact that I'm so heartbroken or disappointed this didn't work out.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I see that a lot with um, you know, dating and relationships where you either find the next person, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or you just like you you bypass really sitting with what did this really teach me?
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: What was what was the emotion telling me in my feminine?
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it was this like darker time of I felt very disconnected on a conscious level because I was you using, you know, alcohol or going out as a way to numb the pain and the feeling or being physically intimate with others that I didn't really feel that deep connection with or that deep love with.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it was like, oh, I'm I'm so tough.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't care that you didn't want to be with me.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I can just be with anybody, right?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: And it was it was a it was a way to empower myself, but it wasn't a full on true empowerment.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like every time afterward, I would just like cry myself to sleep because I'm like, but this isn't what I want.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: This isn't what how I want to be.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: But because I was so lost in that darkness, I wasn't able to um navigate that.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I was kind of consumed by that at that point.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_02: I can imagine.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: I can imagine for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the distraction, and then, you know, yeah, look at me, I could do all these things, not a big deal.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: And you do those things, but you're really hurting yourself at that time frame.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if anyone can relate out there, it's so easy to distract ourselves.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that you could take that and relate that to almost anything in life, whether it's like um, you know, oh well, I'm not doing fast food, but I'm doing this instead.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's a little bit better, but you're not really just like going fully organic or you know, going straight up just vegetables and just keeping it super healthy.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that a lot of times people do that because they just don't want to look themselves in the mirror.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: I love how your approach is very much like looking yourself in the mirror.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the two-year time frame, what was like the breaking point for you're like, all right, I'm done with this?
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm going to make a change.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So unfortunately, there was an abusive situation.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that's when I really like looked in the mirror and woke up and I'm like, what am I doing?
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: And this is with an ex-partner?
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was just with someone I was seeing dating.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: It was very um brief.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: But it was a little shocking to me because I was like, How did I get here?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_07: Whoa.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how did I go from this very secluded, isolated, safe space growing up to now someone's abusing me and hurting me in an intimate way.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, luckily for me, it it didn't go on or last too long because it was such a wake-up call when it happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and, you know, I then had to go, okay, this is not working.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: This is not working.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I started slowly but surely like feeling deeper into that pain and recognizing that I wasn't being who I am.
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  SPEAKER_02: Lift off, let's go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was meeting another person that was more kind and loving and um just more embracing of who I really am.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That fire energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like the first time that I met a guy who was like, let's go, let's do this, let's explore, let's be expansive.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, wow, yeah, let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is the first time someone is actually encouraging me to be in that fiery spirit.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, there were still troubles along the way because I was still meeting this person in that lower frequency.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: And there was this person who was an alcoholic, was doing um drugs, and so there was still danger or something that wasn't healthy for me in that interaction or continuing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, so yeah, just like year after year, slowly going back to baseline, I would call it, but then you know, situations like keeping me back down.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would say a lot of it is people go get support when they're down at the worst.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: But for me, it was realizing in the journey that you actually should get support when you're at just baseline.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because then when you get support, you're higher than it.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: And if something happens, you're still higher than baseline.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Instead of, oh, I just dipped all the way back again and I'm I'm at my worst.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had a mentor who helped me understand that in my journey as I started um doing some um spiritual therapy myself and getting support from that level.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: And at this point, I was in Arizona.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: So this I'm fast forwarding a few years in the journey.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_06: But how long have you been here for?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: I was oh, I've been here since 2018.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: 2018?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, awesome.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: We can't we got here in 2020.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: So not too not just a couple years after you love it.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so um definitely when I moved here from Chicago, it was like now I have at my fingertips all this spiritual healing, um, all these practitioners, and that's what drew me here, of course.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but it was the first time I felt like, wow, I can actually get support for this spiritual um misalignment that I'm experiencing, right?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but unfortunately, even in that, there were practitioners I met that weren't of the highest vibration, and they took advantage of um me.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I see this a lot in the spiritual community too, where people are so desperate for wanting that healing that they'll just listen to anybody and everybody.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so for me, I forgot to say this in the whole thing, but I have my um in the process, I got my master's in social work and masters in child development.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um no big deal.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Just you know, a couple masters, all good.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: But but I have that therapy background, yeah.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, becoming a therapist, and there's so much of an importance on the ethics of the client relationship as a therapist that I feel like is missing in the spiritual space.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and there's definitely people who just naturally embody an ethical ability to be with people, right?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: And and take care, like you're taking care of this person's psyche, they're trusting it to you.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, please don't abuse it, right?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so I would find that there's people out here who would really um feel very empowered and like sucked into the fact that like people want to engage with you and pay you and like listen to you.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: So it kind of gave them the same high I got from being with other men to get away from the pain.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so it there's different avenues that people use, and we're all human.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I definitely always like pride myself on my ethical background as far as how I work with my clients, but I do see even on social media and the way some astrologers show up, fear-mongering and doing all that and pulling people in from that lower frequency.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not at all about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So well, it's interesting that you say that because uh I'm not here to pass judgment on anyone, I'm just making an observation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: You'll see individuals out there, and it it's now on my algorithm just because I as soon as you start liking or following or connecting or watching a video for a certain amount of time, the algorithm's gonna feed you that.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like you're about to be rich.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: Comment 444 down below, share this with three people.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't looked look below.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: There's no comments, there's no, or not comments, there's like no hashtags, there's no write-up.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if you've seen this, the algorithm was specific, and then like people go down that rabbit hole.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I could see where you you're saying like it's easy to be taken advantage of someone who's at a higher vibe and is then smart and understands the system and how it works, just for their own self-interest, because then they get more monetization, they're getting more payments, they're you know, then the funnel system to their course or to whatever.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I will just say uh, just on the record, there's nothing to be sold here.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I have nothing to sell you.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: So you want to like and subscribe, that's the only thing I'm asking.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, you don't have to.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, no merch, nothing to be sold.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: I do this for a passion project just to serve and support humanity as a whole.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: So my intention is to have more ethical people on the show.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm glad that you brought that up.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's the first time that actually is something that even came up.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I just wanted to put those cliffs.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I've I've gone through it, you know.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just told you, I've I've been involved with people deep in their darkness.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: I've been in my own darkness.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: And even, you know, it wasn't like I immediately caught it.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: And so after some amount of time and all the money I gave to these people, suddenly something was again like a little lift-off moment of like, wait, what?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: You said what?
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, that really doesn't sit well in my body.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: How could you possibly know that or say that?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: I know deep in my intuition that's not correct or that's not in alignment with what I want and or like see for myself in my life.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: So um it it's something I I just caution to people like, hey, really research who this is, how they're showing up.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: But I think a lot of times people, um, even then, I've tried to understand like why this happens and it's just like a kind of like a soul contract.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're showing up, not aligned in an ethical way.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: But then there's people who learn from that, just like I learned from an experience that was difficult for me.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it had to happen in that way.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then I find that the people who do reach out to me want to work with me, are not necessarily operating in that frequency because I'm not serving them to whatever, you know, spiritual lesson their soul needs.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a part of that.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a part of a different trajectory for different, you know, energies of different people.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I have more grace for it now.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: I used to get very upset.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: My fighter in me was just like, oh, I want to protect everybody.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I also now just understand, you know, the world's not perfect and you can't save everybody.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot do that, and that's not my purpose in my service.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm there for those who are willing and wanting to really do that inner work.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's so true.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: I think that um, you know, like every single thing had to happen in my life, in your life, for us to come to this exact point.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: And speaking of soul contracts, I love I love that philosophy and ideology of that.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's interesting how, like, you know, maybe we had a contract.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: This is where we're supposed to be.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe you're listening to this, and this is gonna help just one person or a hundred people or a thousand people do additional due diligence to figure out what they're gonna do.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: And like that happens in the influencer world, in the business world.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like, lift off agent sponsors this show, and we do real estate marketing.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: And so we want to be as ethical without contracts, we have a family environment, very transparent.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: What's your goals?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: Align the goals with the services so you could see specifically the success.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of times, I think you know, just anyone out there, just ask the person like, what is the intention here?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: And like what does this look like?
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: Because I had a mentor, took a company, Digital Insight, public 94,$4 million you cashed out, and it was an idea that he took from some other company, and they just same idea, but then they built it themselves and they had the right resources and people, and they went through an exit and then they got cashed out.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I had to ask him when he was mentoring me, like, where does our relationship start and stop?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what's your intention here?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then he told me, like, he wanted to loot me all the way down to 15%, and he wanted to take this company through an exit, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: And like, yeah, if it was about all the money, I didn't really care, I could have done it, and then took that money, went somewhere else, but it just wasn't in alignment.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I went into a different direction.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm glad that I did because I had like the most success I could have had on my own the very next year.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and now fast forward 13, 14, 15 years, and here we are, and and now we'll get to explore other avenues like this.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I love that you bring that up, and I think that's so true.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: There it's so true, and you can't save everyone.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: No, you can't, and even in in sessions with clients, you know, I get really passionate about the work I do and the possibilities that a person has at their fingertips using astrology, but I also know I need to step back, allow them their experience, and let their be on let them go their own way, right?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I really think that's the healthiest way to be is like I'm not here to heal you.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm here to offer this frequency to you and this knowledge to you.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: And what you do with it is up to you.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and you know, I think distancing and having those ethical backgrounds with the therapist client relationship really applies here as well because what I do is very therapeutic.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I absolutely love that.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I think the biggest thing too is is when you think about something like what you're doing to serve and support and help, like it's just like helping that person meet your frequency and help them be able to see things from a different light so they can be able to continue down their path and to be able to shine a little bit brighter than how you initially met with them, which is so beautiful.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's where I love this type of platform because there's podcasts that you could watch or books that you can read and Instagram and videos and short and long.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: And you can then kind of just have an arm's length on stuff, right?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: Because some people are like, I don't really want to reach out to Monica.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I'm ready yet.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's a big step.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do I talk to her?
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: Am I committing right now?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: All that information.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Links down below if you want to, but but you know what I'm saying?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's stuff like that where I could I could tell people are like a little cautious.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, even with like what we do, it's like, you know, not everyone's gonna buy a 500 to 5 million dollar home, right?
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: And they might want to do the research and due diligence first, and that's all we do.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: We align the agent to have the information out there so they could do the due diligence and then easy peasy.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I love that.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: So let's start to fast forward a little bit.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: So, what was the cattle smooth Arizona?
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: Start there really quick.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so as a result of all of that emotional turmoil, yeah, I also had a lot of physical health issues.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, it sounds like right, like in internal, external, exactly.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: So the way I look at it from an astrological perspective is it's the feminine on an earth and water level.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Got it.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: So the water is the representation of the emotional feminine, okay, and the earth energies within us is the physical feminine.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so the two together are always operating.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: So if something's happening emotionally, it's in the body as well.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: And the body in the tissues.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, and the body's going to call out to you, like, hey, I don't think this is uh the best way we should be living right now.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I need you to stop and look at this, right?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: So because I was in such denial and I was just trying to force myself to get through day by day, year by year, um, I really neglected like really just sitting with that feminine and sitting with myself and putting all the energy back into me.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: So a part of that journey was the health stuff.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I was actually diagnosed at three years old with rheumatoid arthritis.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: So it was on and off in my life.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like for my whole life it was active, but at that point, right before I moved here, it came back.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Series of events.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: I can now go back and see what started happening in my body to get it to come out again and be so so painful for that year.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, it was like the year of hell, I would say for me, because every single day all my joints are hurting.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't move.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't even lift a spoon.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, imagine not being able to lift a spoon because your wrist hurts and there's like a jabbing pain in it, right?
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I can't like drive my car.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in Chicago in the zero degree snow, you know, like is all over my car.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: And at that point, I think I just snap because my fingers were frozen.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in complete pain.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have anyone around me to help me.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, there's gotta be another way to live life than this.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, aside from the healing, which I did end up at the same time finding remedies and ways to actually help the arthritis subside within just a few months, but all of it happened at the same time.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I found kind of not the cure, but just what my body needed to get back to balance, as well as this divine call that like you can't stay here.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like this environment is not good for your body, and you're gonna suffer and be depressed every winter.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yes, there's the winter depression, but for me, physically, I am more sensitive in that way.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, I was just like, this isn't it.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: Awful relationships, awful health.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm not in my purpose, I don't even know where I'm supposed to be going.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because after completing my schooling, I didn't actually get a job in as a therapist right away.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, because it's so competitive in Chicago and there's so many people going to getting the same degrees as you and having more experience than you, because I just went straight through schooling without getting a job.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: So um it was a big call, but astrologically, I didn't know at the time it was my Saturn return.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, interesting.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody between the ages of 28 and 30 is going to have this big experience that restructures their life, usually.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: The farther away you are from your alignment, like me, the harder it is.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I have coached and helped people through their Saturn return where it wasn't actually that difficult.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was just like, okay, we're restructuring, we're getting back on track, but it wasn't as like painful, let's say, as mine was to call me back into alignment, back onto the right track.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it is about how aware you are of your energetic alignment, I would say.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: And Saturn is there to help lovingly guide you, but sometimes not so lovingly, right?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: In a way where yeah, I really have to wake you up and shake you out of this.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because pain gets people to move.
• 27:22
  unknown: Yes.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, sometimes when we're so deep in the distractions, in the not being able to sit with that feminine, we need that pain.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: We need that jolt to say, oh, this isn't good for me.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: I need to get out of this relationship.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: I need to, I need to leave this job, right?
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: I need to move across the country because the environment around me is not supporting me in growing my deepest, brightest light.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: And my radiance.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: So that health journey was definitely the wake-up call where I just knew there's nothing here for me and I need to be somewhere else.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, spirit just guided me.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: I I had this experience of always going to the rooftop where I lived and looking out into the sunset to the west.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: And just feeling the pull of my spirit.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: And the the sooner it got to when I actually moved, it was just like literally, you could feel the spiritual pull that I need to go out west, right?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: Toward that sunset and where that is.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was like I could not run away from it.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was just so strong of like I'm having a miserable time, but this is the one energy of hope I have, right?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: That like something can change in my life.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, there was so much that just exploded after I came here as far as the health journey and healing deeper things.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then pretty quickly after having and meeting an astrologer and having my astrology chart read for the first time.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, which then was like, I would say that's my pretty much peak liftoff moment.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because I found the cheat code to the Matrix.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and I finally understood why everything in my life was not clicking into place.
• 29:00
  unknown: Wow.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, so you're telling me there's a roadmap?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: You're telling me I can just follow this and things will fall into place.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: But because of so many years of being conditioned and not living in that divine design, it wasn't as easy.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say it's like, oh, I have a reading, and then voila, everything magically has changed in my life.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was thinking about this before coming here, but I would say that we experience many liftoff moments.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: And the liftoff moments are always tuned to an astrological transit because it's activating us, just like it activated me during my Saturn return.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then other moments as well.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I do as an astrologer.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: I look at what's coming up for you energetically.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: And even if I don't know someone, a stranger, I see their chart before I even talk to them, like, oh, I wonder what they've been going through recently.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: And sure enough, they're like, Yeah, yeah, I've been really in it.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, there it is again, astrological divine timing, um, guiding us into understanding the purpose and the why of like there is a divine force that is guiding our development into that higher alignment.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: But when you don't know it, it is like you have to rely on the intuition.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sometimes you go through many years of the same cycle, same person that you're dating, relate.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: The job is still stagnant and you're not growing, you're not getting closer to your success.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: But when you understand your divine design and the astrological timing of when certain areas of life are most activated, or when you might want to take a step back and actually do the inner work and heal deeper, then you're flowing with life instead of always trying to control it and resist what is naturally there meant for you.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I've had many left-off moments afterward, right?
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: Of like understanding that and then seeing it happen in tandem and tracking it.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, people track their macros, I track the astrology transits.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: I like that, I like that.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's how I optimize my life, right?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: I do track my calories, so it's like it's like I can relate on the other side.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: You do it from a different perspective, but but truly, I have seen.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, like I have data now for myself because every season I give myself a rating.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: How in alignment was I with this energy?
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm so thrilled that now I can go, like, wow, I got 10 and I got another 10 and I got another 10.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: I've really learned these lessons.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: And now that doesn't mean I don't still have room to grow.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: But it's so different than where I was.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Where I was completely in that dark.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like the way that you grow at a level 10, being in alignment is going to be a faster growth pattern.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's like hiring a coach.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_02: And like you have a coach, and the coach will tell you the things that you need to hear.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: And as long as you're coachable, you can get where you need to go quicker.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I was having, without not getting in too much detail, family member, we'll just put it there.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, some stuff's coming up.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: My wife sent a text and I sent a text, and then I was just like, I just straight up call bullshit.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: And she finally was just like, You're right, I'm miserable, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, I wouldn't text you if it wasn't for a reason.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: And like, you can kind of tell when someone's like in an abundance mindset or someone's in a lack mindset or someone's going through a season of kind of like, and then, and the thing is, too, is I feel like when you're at that 10, like you were saying, and you're in alignment, when things do come up, you're better prepared, like when you work out to get up off the chair or to uh run because you're life-threatened and you have the stamina, you know, stuff like that.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: So then, so let's go a little bit deeper.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: So astrology.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: This is gonna be, I'm getting into the this topic now.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: So how so you so what was the like catalyst for you to even like start down this road?
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like where you're just like, I don't know, something online came up or or what?
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm curious, like how you even like started the process.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'll always remember being a teenager and discovering I'm a Scorpio rising.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: How did you find that out?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't honestly even remember exactly what the modality was, or so I I might have just like seen something online or or looked it up or something, okay, or something like piqued my interest in a magazine, right?
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: But I always knew I was a Leo because that's the easiest thing.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: You're a sun sign, this is what your sun sign is.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, most people, awareness of astrology is like, oh, this is you, and that's it.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: But in fact, I would be very happy and cheerful and outgoing in my Leo energy, but then I would have a complete 180 and I'd be very emo depressed, like in my feels, very withdrawn.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm like, what just happened to me?
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it felt very bipolar.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right, even though it's not like clinical, yeah.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like, oh, one moment the rain is is pouring, and then the next it's the sun is shining again, and vice versa, going back and forth.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, why does this keep happening to me?
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: I also noticed my family is not like that.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, what?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I the one who's like really deep in the processing of things?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Self-evaluating, I love this.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so there is that depth of self-awareness with Scorpio that like not only am I feeling it, I'm also aware of the fact that I'm feeling it and trying to figure it out for myself.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was like my pre-therapeutic debut of like, this is what you're meant to do.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: This is your gift, right?
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: But but when I saw that, like it said, Oh, this is also a part of your energy, you're a Scorpio rising.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: And the two of those don't necessarily click.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's like making a latte, and the ingredients are not blending.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: So one of the one at one moment you'll be in this, and another you'll be in this.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, okay.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: So you're telling me it's normal, it's like it's okay for me to feel both things and be both ways.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so the journey then with your rising sign is to integrate.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's like your subconscious aura.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: And you integrate that into your consciousness so that you combine your sun sign and your rising sign energy together.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Got it.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: So some people like me have what is called like that square between the energies, which is tense, it's not happy because they're so different.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: But some people have like either the same sign or same element, they're just flowing, they're just like feeling really good and integrated within themselves, right?
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, it's like the ingredients are mixing very nicely.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: So there is that to astrology, is like giving you that understanding that, oh, there's these parts of you that don't get along, there's these parts of you that do.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: So that was my first awareness of it, but I didn't like go deeper into it at that time.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever reason, you know, maybe it was like college coming up and just focusing on my studies or whatever.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it was it was the biggest affirmation I had that thus far in life, where my parents weren't helping me, like I said, emotionally process or understand my myself.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I didn't have that mentorship.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: And yet, yes, this thing says, you are this, and that's okay.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: So, fast forward through my then psycho psychology training and and therapy training, it was like, I just wanted to learn more.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Who am I?
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I this way?
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Why are there struggles within my family dynamic?
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Why do people use alcohol like they do?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was just always very, very curious person to understand people.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll always remember being like in kindergarten instead of like running around with the kids playing, I was like hiding in the bushes, like, why are they yelling and screaming like animals?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like what are they doing?
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I just felt very good, very different, right?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't think I'm like them, right?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm here just playing, picking flowers and going like they're very chaotic looking, and I don't I'm a little scared of that energy, right?
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: So being more reserved like that, I always was the observer and just watching humans and human nature unfold, but I always had that deep curiosity to understand more.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: But like I said, when I came here and I had my first astrology reading for myself, then all the other puzzle pieces came into play of like my moon in Aries.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, no wonder I'm so fiery at times, and I want to fight back and be honest and just like take charge and do all of this in the fire masculine.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: But again, it wasn't supported growing up.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, what do you mean you're gonna go off and do your thing and be independent?
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, in that what?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, trust me, that was a conversation to be had.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, parents, I'm leaving.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: Peace out.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: Going across the country, but you know what?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: But you haven't even let me like go to concerts, you know.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: So that's an interesting dynamic.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: I can all I can imagine.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: Also, um, I can imagine too, they're probably uh like now are they okay with it?
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: They they come out here visit.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: The h most hilarious thing, I start sending them all these like videos of look how amazing it is, and that and it's like snowy and cold and dark, and then they start like going, hmm, that does look kind of nice.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: So then eventually they did move out of here.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, that is hilarious.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: Brought the fam out.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: Mine hasn't showed up yet.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: So her family's already out here, and then mine has not came out yet, and not all of her family, because they think the grass is greener on their side.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: And sure.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all want to see it in California?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: You can go ahead and stay there.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: So it has its own, you know, mixed bag of stuff.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, really quick for the view listeners, because I want them to have a little bit of like call to action from the perspective of like so we all know a sign is like your birth date, what's your sign?
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, March 14th, okay.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Pisces, and then there's the rising moon.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's other there's other parts to it, depending on like the time and the date and when you were born, and all these other things.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: And so, so can you break that down just a little bit more?
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: And then we'll go further into definitely.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it all is related to the time of your birth and where you were born, and we just plug in those details and you get this chart of all your energies.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: And basically, it's a chart of the planetary alignment in the sky at that time of your birth, but it's a snapshot.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we hit pause for the exact moment you came into this earth, and and then the energy keeps moving.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: So just like there's a weather forecast, yeah, there's an astrology forecast.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, you you take on that energy signature as your divine design, it's your path of development, let's say, to embody more Leo than uh Virgo, for example.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but you have all 12 signs within you because all they are is just energies being expressed.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Some people have a stronger sense of the fire versus the water.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's it's this divine design that even though it's there for you, it life experiences might not help you develop it like it didn't help me.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then you get off track and you feel lost and you're just unsure and things aren't really working.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: You're trying so hard, you're like swimming against the current, wondering why am I not getting to shore?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: And and that's why.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I I liken it to like earth, fire, air, water to different languages.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: If you're speaking English and I'm speaking Spanish, we're clearly not gonna be understanding each other, right?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: So if I'm in my fire and you rather be in your earth, we're gonna have a little different of a conversation.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's where a lot of people project like oh, you're too much.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: They're uncomfortable with the disconnect and the dissonance.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, interesting, right?
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're like, yeah, if you were speaking English and I'm speaking Spanish, there's a disconnect.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: And we want naturally as human beings to connect and to align, especially if we care about another person.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: So the whole compatibility part of things is actually understanding that even within ourselves, there's these different languages that we express, like my Leo and Scorpio, and how do they get along?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not gonna live a life now where that's um my difficulty forever and ever.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I have learned that it's just like, okay, sometimes I'm in my Leo, sometimes I'm in my Scorpio.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I just need to understand that I can't stay in one too much.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because it pulls me away from from honoring another part of myself.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I get really sad or very depressed or very like much in deep in the processing of things, but my Leo lifts me up.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, hey, let's go have fun, let's smile, let's let's enjoy life, right?
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: And that's actually very necessary.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: So we fulfill each other in that sense of like I might be stronger in certain energies, you might be stronger in certain energies.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then if we respect each other and we honor each other and we learn from each other, we can actually all be very compatible at the end of the day.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_00: But unfortunately, uh, in the world with astrology, there's so much projection and people saying, Oh, this sign sucks, or they're awful.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: And um they're meeting the mirror of themselves in another energy, and they don't want to take accountability, they don't want to see that.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: So, of course, they continue to be in the victim mindset of like it's all your problem, it's not me.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: When actually the system of divine energy shows us it's all connected, all connected, all connected.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: And it was interesting.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: I did a video on that.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, what is a hater, you know, and like thinking about that perspective, and it's like it's just someone who doesn't want to self-valuate, doesn't want to look in the mirror, thinks that you know they're different or better, or they can't do that, or whatever the case may be.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, it's like we all it's interesting because there's separation from the perspective of the third dimension, but there's not it, but we're not really separate, and we're just basically co-creating this existence as this energy, and it's very fascinating, it's very interesting, but it's just like you know, different flavors of ice cream.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: What do you like?
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's all ice cream, yeah, just different flavors, and I think that's where people sometimes get totally off and they don't get it.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just like expression is expression, there's just different ways to express it.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, your your ethnicity is ethnicity, it's just who you are.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: And it's funny how you know, but it is what it is.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: The Empower B has has done what they've done to make us all feel that you know, you're white, I'm black, I'm this and that.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's so far from the truth, right?
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's just a way for us to not come together to co-create, to have magical experiences like this, so more people can have liftoff in their life and understand, like, you know, here's the tools that you need to have more success and be in more alignment.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that that is the part of the way I blend the therapy with astrology, is that I do the shadow work with you to identify where you're not in alignment with that energy.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: So this is this is interesting.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: So you've you've taken psychology and your master's and degrees, and then you take an astrology and completely made your own kind of modality, which is so beautiful and different.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's not even my own.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: There's a ton of therapeutic astrologers out there, but it's not like they're on social media being the influencer.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: There's not, there's not a lot of people on social media.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Social media, I feel like in our spiritual community, and even with like the real estate stuff that I do with the marketing, I always talk to my partner.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, dude, there's a huge opportunity here for us to serve the community and the spiritual side because they just don't know how to amplify their message or get themselves out there to really like, you know, like I think one of the I guess influencers that comes top of mind, uh Troy Casey, certified health nut, he was on our show, and he's done a good job, but it's taken him like 20, 30, 40 years to finally figure it out.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_02: And so you're already doing that, which is amazing.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm still on that journey too.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm never perfect.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing with astrology is it helps me to be that mirror and guide me back every time I get off track.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like for this year, I knew, okay, Monica, you've been low in your fire lately.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's time to go, it's time to, you know, challenge yourself more.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's time to do it.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: And and it's basically the divine energy of the universe is supporting that.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's wanting all of us to step more in our masculine right now.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas the last few years have been slower, more introverted, more internalized because the energies in the sky were more in the feminine, more in the earth and the water.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but as far as the shadow work goes, it's it's always fluctuating.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: But like I said, it's that accountability and keeping track of it that helps you to stay in that peak lift-off experience where you just keep lifting off time after time after time with all of these experiences, and then you look back and you go, I'm such a different person now.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, what just happened?
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's that accountable system keeping track of things versus you're just swimming in the ocean and sure, you're still gonna grow.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I definitely don't want it to be the case that like you have to use astrology.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: By no means, I always say number one is your intuition.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: That regardless of the astrology, your intuition is always gonna guide you in the divine feminine.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like for me, I will have an experience, I'll let myself feel, I'll tune into that intuition, and then I go, let me check the astrology.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what's happening now that connects the dots and gives me awareness of understanding the meaning in a deeper way than me just trying so hard to like figure it out myself or go chat GPT it?
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, this is very clear.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: This energy is weaker for you right now.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: And because it's weaker and you're not in alignment, maybe you're deficient in your fire.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's asking you to get more empowered again and do something to speak up for yourself, stand up for yourself.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: So then it's up to me.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, do I choose to take that challenge on?
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Do I choose to grow?
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because often enough, people will go, well, yeah, I'm not ready.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm just gonna shy back away and I'm gonna repeat the cycle, and that's okay.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_00: But for me, as I am very ambitious and see a future and my capability and my potential, I'm like, at this point, I can't, I can't do that anymore.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: I've lost a lot of time spinning myself in those cycles in life.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: And now I'm catching up, but I'm very pleased and happy with where I'm at, also feeling more acceptance of self in the process of the growth.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's another part of looking at your feminine energy in your chart to go, wait, am I avoiding that just acceptance of self while I'm pursuing goals, while I'm trying to lift off?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: And what I've noticed is that you can really force the lift off and getting more success.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: But if you don't have that deeper place of self-worth and self-love, you're gonna get it and then not be happy and fulfilled.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I love that.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: You could you could apply that in so many other ways too.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you're too much in the city or under Florence Lights, you need to go into nature and get some just get some balance, go out in the lake.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: And today I was doing a run and I did a post on that.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, come on, guys and gals, like, you gotta get out there and have transitions.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: And if you haven't gone to the lake in a while, go on the lake.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_02: If you haven't got a sunburn, go get a sunburn, like just have that contrast because it brings you back.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because, like, for me, like I do a lot of computer work and then I like to like cars.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: And so I bought one right now that I'm restoring, and so I go in there and do my thing, but it it makes me feel more creative and interesting and and fun.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: And then speaking of a moment, like you said, like you can look back and reflect.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: I met a friend I haven't seen.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we've been friends for like 18 years, I haven't seen him since I don't know, 2010, 2011.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: And we meet, and like, I'm a totally different person.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I owed him, you know, some money.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: He borrowed I borrowed some money, and then he got married, and I was building my company and all this.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_02: So they all came back up, and I just like we had lunch, and I just he said something about the money thing or whatever, and I just slid across the desk, or the whatever.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I was like, this is like this, and he's like, What?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yeah.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yeah, he he's like, I thought I was just wondering the bridge, and you told me you pay me back with the interest.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Yeah, I did, and here's your interest.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_02: And then he was like talking about this person and that person, all stuff in the past, and I'm like, and he's not on social media, I don't remember these people's faces or names or anything.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, and I almost felt bad.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't remember any of these people.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm just trying to like hang on there and just listen and see if anything comes back.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel felt like a completely different person, like not even close to who I was before.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: Because at that time, going through it, wanting to be someone that I wasn't yet and and not feeling seen, I wanted to like let that go, and then it came back.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_02: And then that energy now sees me, and then I was just like, I was like, Yeah, here's your cash.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_02: You want to go pick up a supercar?
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go pick up a supercar.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_02: Here's your money.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_02: You want to stop at the house real quick?
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we did, and we just had some fun.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Oh, today was a freaking awesome day.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, Yeah, and you probably made more money than you did in a week and one day.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, Oh yeah.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so it was it was a cool contrast moment to, and I'm very grateful to go back and I had that story fresh in my mind because what you just said, it just resonated.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: And and it's like that.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's like, wow, it's so fun to explore the future version of yourself.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I love the quote is like, we're here to serve those who we once were.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right?
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like so many people forget about that, and it's just like it's like, come on, if you keep growing and you're in alignment and you're having fun, you go through that process, and then you see someone, you're like, I remember that person.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_02: I know exactly who that person is.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: And then you get to help them, and then they get like, they light up and you're like, Yes.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, trust me, I have it happen all the time in my sessions.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is so interesting how the universe works because I will, you know, I never know who I'm gonna meet and what their energy is like.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then I pull up the chart and I'm like, huh, that's a lot like me.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then I know I'm like, well, if it's a lot like my chart, they're probably gonna have a similar experience, maybe.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: And then I start talking about it, and sure enough, exactly like you were just talking about.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: And in that moment, I feel so divinely aligned to say, I am in my purpose because I am serving the past version of myself.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm helping these people see what I or like I'm that light I would have wanted.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, you know, and I and unfortunately, I had to just do it all on my own.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yes, I reached out to mentors or had therapists and stuff, but like nobody was forcing me to go do that.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: But it was such a deep um dissonance.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, the health issues were like, is this really all I'm supposed to have in life?
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: Is suffering.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_00: And when I found that joy of being able to offer that guidance and light and healing frequency, I was like, I want more of this.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_00: I want I want expansion for myself, for the people I'm talking to.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: And the ripple effect is just really amazing.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: And even, you know, then people going like, oh, you gotta talk to her or you gotta go get a reading.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, slowly but surely, right?
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're making the light spread and helping others rise into their alignment, which then empowers not just myself or that person, but all the people around them.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's not to say though that I always go, sometimes it gets a little worse before it gets better, because even in my journey, I've lost friendships, yeah.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, jobs and pivoted, and that is a part of the growth.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: You can't really like go forward holding on all the baggage when it's no longer aligned to you.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: Now, yes, you could have someone come back into your life and you know, you kind of restore the energy there, but it's also like a healing moment for yourself.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and even like this past Leo season, I did a lot of inner child work, started like watching a show I used to watch as a teenager, and I was just like, I feel that inner joy.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's like so innocent, so playful.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's a part of me, and it's like getting to see that and embrace that again, but from a completely different perspective.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't that beautiful though?
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's so beautiful.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I so little story for the car people.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a car guy, and there was a car that I wanted back in the day, 2005 Dodge Neon SRT4.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I wanted this car and I was looking for it, and for some reason, my inner being said, like, get the car, get the car, get the car.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, What?
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_02: So, some investments, the market kind of sucks right now.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_02: I pulled out some investments, bought the cat car cash.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I can fix it up, clean it up, and I can resell it, make some money, whatever.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I did that, and the wife's like, What?
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like, this isn't luxury, blah, blah, blah.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_02: And like, she doesn't get it because it's uh, you know, something that's personal to me.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so next thing you know, I'm like, I do a couple posts, and next thing you know, like, because I'm on social media, whatever.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm hitting like 50 to 100,000 views with this little car.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm connecting with all these new people because it's a little car.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm expressing myself in a different way, and it's bringing me back to that child sense of energy.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: And it's interesting because I feel like we need things to keep our light like growing and being as bright as possible.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: And like my intention is to live like a long time and and really serve and support like humanity from a whole different perspective.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm like, you know, let's go into this, let's go do this.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, and it's interesting, it's like it's it's like a tenth of the price of like my GTR, but it, but but it gives you a different sense of joy, and then you connect with people on a different level that maybe want to get to a higher level, which I also have and already am, but then there's that contrast in between.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm excited to take it to the next step with contrast with both the cars and content for them to be like, whoa, okay, and connect the dots and whatever else.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_02: So, so yeah, so go play in your and that's why I have like RC cars behind you, and I got toys in the closet, and like, because you gotta have fun, man.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_02: You got I mean, my daughter put the little Lego guy guy sticking out of the crystal right there because it's like it's like gotta have fun.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I remind myself that too.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm very ambitious.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: I put a lot into growing my business and doing this more full time, but you were laid out there, but then I'm more in my masculine, yeah, and I'm forgetting that my feminine just wants to enjoy life.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fun and experience pleasure as far as like I enjoy going into concerts.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: Why haven't I gone to one in months?
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: When when naturally you're in that, it's just as healing as going to see a therapist.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's just as healing as going to a sound healing or a sound bath that I recognize this year, especially because of the fire and because I knew I have to get back into a state of excitement and passion.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: That fire fuels us.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: And without it, we can do everything and we could be successful, but it doesn't have that purpose, that deeper meaning unique to who we are.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm interested in something else besides the cars, and you are because it's unique to you.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_02: What are you interested in?
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, astrology, of course, but like But like personally, like any fun stuff?
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: Personally, um, yeah, I I love concerts growing up.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I actually played the drums as a kid in band and marimba.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was one avenue I got to actually explore and experience the fire within me.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I get to be loud.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: I get to be big and everyone, it's kind of like subconsciously like, hey, you're gonna pay attention to me.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_00: Look how loud I'm making this drum, right?
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but there is something as well to the like rhythmic nature of it that really I was just gifted at.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: Or like really, I picked it up and I was Do you have a set at the house?
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: Or no, unfortunately not.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: Not anymore.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't played in quite a while, but I did gift myself a drum like session a couple birthdays back to like like you did with the car.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, I used to love doing that.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and when I went back to the drum, I was like, it's like, oh, I haven't done this in so long.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I just like I got into it and I was actually surprised how much muscle memory I had with it.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: But it is that sense of like, okay, so I love music.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: I I love all varieties, but I used to be really into EDM and um rock.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: So again, like EDM on too.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, for this like reserved, you know, cautious girl, shy girl, it's this really interesting contrast because this is a big part of me.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: My Leo and Aries like need an outlet.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_00: And when I start my day, I don't start with coffee, I start with music.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: I put on a song that gets my energy going.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_07: That's a good idea.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so for me, it's that fun aspect, right?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Of like as if I was out partying at the concert or the club, but it's in my own space on my own terms, and I get to just be me, no judgment.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the days I don't, I do feel a difference.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like really, yeah.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm definitely like less energized, less excited about my work, versus like when I give myself that time to have fun as a child would it's like, oh, so life isn't like I have to do this, I get to do this.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I gave myself a chance to really love myself and what I need, right?
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: So exploring music has always been a big thing now.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't go to as many concerts anymore as I used to.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: I like growing up in Chicago, I went to Lollapalooza and did all that stuff, and I have like fantastic memories of like jamming out in the rain and like just living life to the fullest in that way, right?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: Of like no boundary and a lot of freedom to do that.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think music really allows us to heal such a deep level of self-expression, and whether it's singing, playing an instrument, moving your body to it, it's it's saying you're not restricted and restrained, and you get to flow and you get to be however you want to be.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a really authentic frequency, which is of course the highest frequency, is typically your authenticity.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so for me, it's definitely like I'm always listening to something.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always jamming out to something.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I do have on my vision board one day, like I'm gonna have the whole setup again.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: Really like, oh yeah.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I could see you having they have those ones that are like they're more for like you can put the headphones on and then you can plug in speakers.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, and you could still do your drums, but it's not an actual drum set set like that.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: But like the fact that I know what it's like to really play one and like crashing of the cymbals and hitting it in that way.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's it it could do for the interim for sure.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great idea.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for giving me that.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'll just put the headphones on and jam out.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_02: You could just, you know, and it could be the prerequisite prerequisite to be able to like get the actual set or something.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like talking right now, I'm just thinking to myself, man, I really want to get one of those like racing car simulators.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: And like I technically want to race.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_02: I want to go.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_02: I used to have a quarter midget racing car when I was younger, went to school to work on cars, and I went into this total different world.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_02: But it'd be fun to like get on the track and race and have some fun and go through that process.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, I just like the idea, but I really want to do the drifting, like the sliding, and just like the smoke coming off the back.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_02: And like for me, I just feel like I don't know, it's it's one of those flow states where like I'll post something and like I don't know, 600,000 views with the GTR just like going on the freeway.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: And wife was talking, and then you couldn't hear her because the car is too loud, and then you could hear her, and I was like, sorry, and people loved it.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_02: It was 15 seconds.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and it's something like where I was talking to my partner about the lift-off agent.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, man, I'm really having a hard time connecting because I want to do more mindset conversation, but it's a product, it's a service and a product, but you have to have a little bit of a mindset, technically a good mindset to like have success with the product, the service.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, and it's just like all right, I'll just do the personal side with the mindset, and I'll keep the business scientist and the product and the case study stuff.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_02: Kind of boring.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but yeah, you have to have that balance, or it just like it just doesn't work out.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like that Gucci bag right there, uh-huh, that's my interior of my car.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm the first GTR to have Gucci custom interior in a car.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_00: So cool.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so just little things like that, that's just fun, it's just different.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's you know, and people like tar Italian and and and Japanese.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, that could be an ethnicity type.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, sure.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_02: Why can't that be in a car?
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you have a you have some Sagittarius in you.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like there's something in your chart because what you're just saying to me, it really resonates on that like deep level of the suppression of fire, where someone's telling you, oh, you can't.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can't do that.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_00: And with Sagittarius, especially like literally calling it liftoff, and the sign of Sagittarius is an arrow moving forward.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: I just sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm not, you know, but I'd be curious.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have to set up a sesh.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_02: So I have a different guest, and different guests I like to go through their modalities, whether it's Michael with Wim Hof, or we had Casey Reiki, and I did a Reiki session with her.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll definitely have to do a sesh because that'd be cool just to go through it and just kind of understand all the things.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_02: My wife gets into it and she looks some stuff up and the rising star and everything else, or rising moon, or whatever it was, uh, that she looked up, which was pretty cool.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I can tell that, like, for us as far as resonation, there's definitely Okay, you're you're you're telling me you want to go drift and and go here and there in a car and then like combine this.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just so Sagittarian in the sense that Sagittarius is the expansifier.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it has no limit, it doesn't have a capacity to say, oh, I can't, because it's very connected to abundance in that sense.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you follow, it's it's kind of like with Sagittarius, you get the hit, the download.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: And all you have to do is honor it and move toward it.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_02: I have to.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_02: I it's so hard not to.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because the Sagittarius fire, it represents your higher self.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: And when you have a very strong Sagittarian energy, and the ones I've met, they are so like lucky and connected when they're doing that, and they just seem blessed.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, how did that work out for you?
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_00: How did how did you just get another job out of thin air?
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: And and it's because of the openness in their spirit, in their heart to say, I can receive.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_00: There's no limit.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't I?
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right?
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't I experience the fullness of this life?
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it does come with a little bit of ADHD sometimes and a little bit of like, okay, can I really focus on the one thing?
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because it's a mutable sign.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where, as an astrologer, I help you understand, like, oh, this energy is different from this energy.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, Aries is different than Leo than Sagittarius.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_00: They're all fire, but they have different purposes.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so are you embodied in each of those purposes?
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I have Leo and Aries, they're they're similar, they're they cooperate very nicely together.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_00: But I know when I'm in my Aries and I'm fighting back and I'm fiery and I'm like, you know, a firecracker, pretty much.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_00: Being like honest and just like, I don't care at all what you're gonna think.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say what I need to say.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_00: But my Leo is like the sun, it's very calm, fire, it's very warm, it's consistent.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_00: It can't get burnt out.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas Aries can get burnt out.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: And for you, like, I already heard the program of like somebody else who's not Sagittarius, who's not a fiery person, going like, what do you mean?
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_00: Why would you do that?
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_00: But me being in my fire, I'm all for it.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, go for it.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: And it's funny you said what you said because in my 20s, I did hit rock bottom because I did so many things that were not in alignment from the perspective of every single thing I was doing, wasn't supporting the collective whole of the one thing.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so I had to learn how do I do the one thing, which is 80% of my time is just a marketing agency, and the other 20% of my time is like the lift-off experience.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then I have another podcast called Real Estate Versus Technology, but that's in specifically the real estate sector and space.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I've had to really reprogram myself a bit.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, but yeah, sometimes you do take on too many projects and you're like, all right, I can't do all these things.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the going back to that shadow work quality I said.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I help you see, oh, are you actually in excess of that energy?
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because uh, that could be a good thing when you're balancing a certain amount, but then when you just have a couple more things tip the scale, now you're in excess of that mutability and that adaptability of putting a lot of things on your plate and it does break.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_00: It breaks the energy, it breaks the system, and you get off course a bit.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: So whether that's being in excess or the deficiency, like how I was a shy Leo and I wasn't in my fire, I wasn't expressing myself.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, that's where astrology can help you kind of like guide you back right to balance.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: And and make sure everything does align better than not.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's very interesting, I think, just in life in general.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_02: And also, of course, tying with astrology, like you have to pick your battles.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_02: And like that's what I really work on.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, I have this much time allocated for this, and then plus it's really hot, so I'll go do something outside, so I'm gonna be inside.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, so it definitely is a process for sure.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's it if if anyone out there wants to get a reading, is this something that you offer specifically?
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like, is it something they can get like automatically, or is it a session they have to go through in order to get the reading?
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's a personal one-on-one session.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I can do it with individuals or groups.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: So like couples sometimes come to me wanting to see what their energy is like together, which is always really nice and really helpful as far as even just like the synergy and the dynamics of sometimes we get along, sometimes we don't.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: Just like some energies within you get along, and sometimes you're confused about yourself.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um or like, you know, friends getting together and doing a group session.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, I I usually do my sessions in North Scottsdale in person, but I also do remote.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_00: So whether you're in Gilbert in the Valley or something like that, and or you'd rather just do it via Zoom, that's totally fine.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you're not even in Arizona, like we can always connect.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_07: There you go.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I've yeah, I've worked with people all over the world too.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of it's really cool to see the possibilities as well with that.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's so cool.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_02: So let's get into a little bit of the story behind the business.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_02: So, at what point did you start to get to Like, all right, I'm gonna start a business out of this, and what was the catalyst to having your own company?
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because were you working for someone else, or just always have your own company, or oh yeah.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I never worked for like another astrologer or anything like that.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_00: It was always like my own thing, and as a Leo, that's like, okay, gotta do it for myself, gotta be my own boss.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I I always just had a knack for my own projects, even from like a little kid, right?
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, I want to do this with Legos, or I want to build this, or I want to build that.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love Legos.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um so so basically when I got the astrology session for myself, that's when I really started like, okay, I want to learn this.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I want to study it up, just like I went to get my master's in social work.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, there's books out there.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's read, let's learn, um, take courses and all that.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I spent some time doing that initially.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, just like when you start, you're like, oh, here's a first Friday event.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you have your little booth and you set up and like whoever wants to come get a reading gets a reading and all that.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there was definitely a couple years at the beginning where it was like pretty slow as far as just like getting in the rhythm of it.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um working part-time and doing the company then?
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I was working full-time and doing this on the side.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_02: And what was what were you doing before?
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was in project management.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_00: So there's different parts of my energy in my chart that's like, okay, that totally connects.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've done like five different careers at this point.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_07: There you go.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_00: Dabble in everything.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, until, you know, once I started doing the sessions, I was like, I feel an energy in my spirit, in my heart that I've never felt before.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like falling in love, and you're like, this is my person.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, oh my gosh, this is it.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is what I could do for free, right?
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_00: I would do this for free.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_00: I would talk to you about astrology for hours and hours.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it it's the fact of how powerful it is in helping you transform.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_00: And how it gave me that deep affirmation.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I want others to experience this too.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_06: Heck yeah.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_00: To that fullest potential.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, just year after year starts growing and growing.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm getting more consistent.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, putting energy into building my marketing, my website, but the whole time, like it was interesting because COVID happened.
• 1:08:06
  unknown: Right.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it was so funny.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_00: I started my new moon group.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, had amazing success first two months, and then COVID happened.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh shit.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, oh, and so I tried the online thing, you know, but slowly it's just like people weren't showing up, or like it was it was a hard time, right?
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and even for myself at that time, I was going through it and I got into a not so great relationship, um, which ultimately put a pause.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like I noticed immediately after meeting this person that I just like stopped making content.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't really showing up as I should.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_00: So there was like the ebb and flow of like, I move forward, I have that liftoff, but then something drags me back.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it was kind of like stuttering liftoff, right?
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_00: Of like, I had success and then something happened.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_00: And emotionally I had to go through that process again of like that mirror of wait a minute, why am I dating an alcoholic?
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I completely um, you know, enmeshed in this?
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_02: Were you already here during that time?
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it was COVID 19.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was during COVID.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I think at that time too, COVID was like, you just want to be close to anybody, right?
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_00: It was like you were so starved for connection as well.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_00: And me not having had like a healthy connection or relationship to that point.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, here's someone who showed up like love bombing me, and I felt amazing.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, but then it's like you get into it and now you're stuck because this person suddenly reveals like they have all this trauma and issues with this.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_00: And now because I care, I'm like worried, like, I can't break up with you.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what if you go on the deep end and it's my fault?
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_00: So there was a lot of guilt during that time, but but because it was so stressful and this person was not able to um, you know, cope in the healthiest way, I knew deep down, like this isn't it, I have to walk away.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_00: And it was very scary though to see this person go through like um a binge state with with it that I hadn't ever actually experienced before.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I would say that was like probably one of the other like darkest moments for me was like 2020 into 2021.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so there was a bit of a break with astrology, but like it was interesting because that almost like pulled me back out of it.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Being there for someone else, yeah.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_00: Sharing that light and lifting someone else up reminded me of the my potential to have a healthier, more aligned connection with myself and with another person.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, and I was able to end that and walk away and you know, rebuild.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Then it was like the year of rebuilding.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so I I at that point I found my own mentors and support system to be able to heal.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but lo and behold, again, I meet someone else that lifts me back up in that fire, is encouraging, is embracing, and for the first time, I just feel fully accepted in my energy.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that was also very healing.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_00: We heal a lot in relationships, of course, right?
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I wasn't like seeking it out, it just kind of happened.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, oh, there's this the universe.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_00: I felt like, thank you, universe.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh thank you, divine.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_00: You you sent a little angel my way to lift me out of this darkness so that I could be more of myself again and continue that journey.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I, in my fire, I like, I never give up.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_00: No matter what drags me down, I always pull myself back up and I'm my own cheerleader.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I offer my clients, right?
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's not just like the knowledge, not the knowledge of astrology.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_00: I always say it's like I'm offering you my heart and the encouragement and the inspiration for you to see someone can really care and believe you have the possibility of changing your life, getting back on track, enjoying your life, feeling this radiance from your heart.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why I'm noonlit sage, because it's like the noon sun.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_00: You're shining as bright as you can.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to offer that to others.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, as far as the journey of like the business side, I believe it was 2022 when I was like finally really getting back in a groove, having new moon groups again and and getting like more clients again.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, let's really do this.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, let's take this serious, Monica.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you have the background with the therapy, you have the awareness and understanding of the cycles of life and how to get back on track.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's even more important is not knowing what to do to move forward, but what to do when you're going backward.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_00: And how do you get back on track?
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a big part of it, too, of what I offer.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, from there, it was just like I knew deep down in my core, in my spirit, that this is this is what I have to do, just like with you and your passions.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_00: You you can't get away from it.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_00: It always like comes back to you, whispers to you.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_00: 100% gets you back in in your heart space and and it makes you feel so alive.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_00: And that is the raising of your frequency.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_00: When you're doing what you're excited about, all this fire sign energy, when you're doing something that just like amplifies your energy, you naturally get it back.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like things attract to you, opportunities attract to you because you're in that higher frequency.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_00: So the more I've done that, the more I've healed my nervous system.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, friendships have ended that haven't served my energy to align in that highest way.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, grateful for all the experiences, but then there's like more and more that I want to keep experiencing.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, it's just been a journey.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's been really cool to see how the divine is supporting that.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not just like me wanting to, you know, like sometimes I'm like, I feel like I don't have a choice.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_00: But I enjoy this, you know, so it's not like I'm struggling to get up to go to work um and do something that I don't know.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_02: Millions of people are having a hard time getting up, not in alignment.
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I like the fact that you went through what you went through to then be able to have real-world experience to be able to be of service.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_02: There's people out there that like try to say that they're a coach or they understand certain things and like they don't really have the experience, they just read books or they got education or what have you.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_02: And that's where I feel like the school system for reform would be great to have school systems that actually you would go get your actual credits for doing the actual work.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like go out, do the work, hit the experience, understand how it works.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and that's another thing, another big point for this show for you all to think about is like, you know, be in alignment, doing what you absolutely love.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I can imagine you control your schedule when you want to work, when you want to take vacation.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_02: She runs her own company, run my own company.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's Friday afternoon when we're filming this podcast or this experience, and and just having the opportunity to co-create, not subject to some external influence is going to dictate the outcome of what we do, how we do it, when we do it.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_00: So well, it's so important for me in my energy signature because I have more earth water, which is more feminine, even though I can be very loud and big with my fire.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_00: I actually was the health issues I had were from the stress of the pressure of that full-time workload.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_00: So when let's say in your chart you have more feminine earth water signs, that means more of the time you want to be spent in that flow, in that receptive energy and being able to rest and recharge.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_00: Versus I've seen people and I've met people who have way more fire air and it's very dominant.
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_00: They're energizer bunnies.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_00: They just keep going and going and going.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, how on earth are you not tired?
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's their natural divine design that they're up and at it and they're going for it all the time.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas for me, I was trying to be like that and like wondering why is this not working for me?
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I exhausted?
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I having these health issues come up?
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because my nervous system's like, no, this isn't for you.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_00: I can do things in a way where I have more with less.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's how the feminine attracts.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_02: Ah, interesting.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so it's like, I really think that when people understand that divine signature in them, and they say, Wow, so you mean I'm supposed to do it like this and it's okay?
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Society's not built like that, though.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's all pressure, move forward, it's all masculine.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_02: One lane, and it's like, no, it's not just one lane.
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like my daughter's home to school right now, and she's hilarious.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_02: She just started third.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_02: And she's like, I feel like I'm just going to prison.
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just go, I'm just going to jail.
• 1:16:15
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, one part, you know, some things we're watching, and I said some things, and and just to just to give her some perspective on stuff.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so she's like, Yeah, they lock us in there, and then we go to lunch, and everything, and then they tell us when we can leave, and this and that, and she's so free.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_02: She's free bird, just wants that whatever.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and then she has her first spelling bee or spelling test this week, and we're trying to go over it with her, and then she's just she's just it's not clicking.
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_02: She's like off in la la land when you're trying to talk to her about whatever.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I even said, Hey, if you get at least eight right, she likes curry, and we go out to Thai food.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yeah, I'll go buy your chicken curry and we'll go to Thai, just get eight right.
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to get all of them.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, you got this.
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_02: And so she has her moments, but it's it's unfortunate that everything is so one way.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_02: And it's almost like the best way that I can explain it is it's almost like lackluster.
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's almost like the Rockefellers and you know, Andrew Carnegie and the Settlers, when every like the big revolution, like they said, okay, it's gonna be this way because we need workers, and we will program them by going to the school, and they'll get used to it, and then they'll just come into work and they'll clock in, they'll clock out.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_02: But it's just like, man, like I'm so excited, and and I would love to get your take on this.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_02: And we have some time because you know, right now, the time of recording, it's it's Friday, August 28th, 2026, and there's a lot of turbulence.
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a lot of turbulence going on around the world.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so they're talking about you know, refer uh reform for health care and and job and schools, and they're even talking about like mortgage and like everything is is up for discussion as far as reform and how things are gonna shift, even the economical stature of like money.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_02: So when you think about all those things and and you think about astrology, and this is this is an interesting one.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_02: Does Mother Earth have a chart?
• 1:18:09
  SPEAKER_00: That I haven't actually looked at.
• 1:18:11
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't looked into it.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_02: I might have just put her on her next big freaking path.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Because because I was watching something and it was talking about where was the start of it, right?
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, because I was watching something and it was the guy was saying that the reason why we're going through all the things that we're going through, it's almost like Mother Earth is purging right now.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_02: And everything is in turbulence because there's a purge happening right now.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_02: And also, if you see all the earthquakes that are happening currently right now around the world, it's because she's moving and there's turbulence and there's the chemtrails and all the stuff.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's almost like she's like, I'm done with all this stuff.
• 1:18:43
  SPEAKER_02: You people, like, and and then I was watching something how like the like us as humans are supposed to be like the what white blood cells are supposed to protect Mother Earth, supposed to be, you know, we're here to serve and support.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it's now going into the opposite direction, hence cancers and illness and disease and the issues are in the tissues and all this other stuff.
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_02: And so, so what are you seeing?
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_02: Because I can imagine by you helping people get them in their alignment, it's it's a part of the the rebirth, the flushing, the helping of humanity and mother earth get to that next that next segment.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_02: But what comes up for you?
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_02: What do you what do you what's your thoughts on all this?
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I have a lot to say about it.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 1:19:26
  SPEAKER_00: We got time.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so as above, so below.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:19:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's the whole premise of astrology as far as what's in the sky and the planetary alignment affecting us down here.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_00: And then you could go from your own level to like yourselves and even further down, and it's just like a whole cosmic spectrum of that.
• 1:19:44
  SPEAKER_00: So when I was talking about my own journey and the shadow work and what was coming up in my experience, yeah, those were my little earthquakes.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_00: That was my purging.
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you look at an individual's chart and interpret it, of course, it's not gonna be like you're gonna be part of an earthquake.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's my prediction, you know.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_00: But Mother Earth is this huge entity, a part of this whole system.
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's going to be representative in its environment in its way.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's on a larger scale.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_00: And just like you said, it's a purging, it's a realignment.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, that's part of the process, but that's been in the divine nature all the time.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_00: There's wildfires, things burn down, and they grow again.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Just like our body, it can regenerate.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I firsthand had that experience of like all my joints were deteriorating.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_00: There was so much pain.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then I went through that rebirth process of like seeing everything go back into balance.
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_00: And gaining my strength back.
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_00: And every time you have a cut, you know, the same thing happens.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_00: You start like I burned myself the other week, and I'm just like in awe watching the skin heal and like I'm not doing anything.
• 1:21:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not doing anything.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_00: But it's a part of just that divine process of regeneration.
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that I feel like, again, we mentioned earlier, you you have to feel the pain sometimes to get things to shift.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_00: And we're in a cycle astrologically right now, because I would look to that, of course, to see like what is the theme of the current transits.
• 1:21:20
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, you've heard maybe about the Pluto-Aquarius timeframe, which is gonna be for the next couple decades.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_00: We just entered it and started it, and that is a powerful transformation, a regeneration of the collective and how we interact with each other, how we support each other.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_00: So you obviously have seen at the same time AI coming in, different financial structures being built.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_00: There's this huge change and innovation coming in, and that's important.
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's necessary for us to tackle these things on a different level than what we've had before.
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like the same tools we had before are not going to help us tackle the problems of the future, right?
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_00: So Aquarius comes in with like, let's think out of the box, let's do it differently, let's go deeper into the mind and understanding of how everything operates.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm definitely not the one to go, I'm the nerd who's figured out all the programming and coding.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm a little behind on the AI, but I'm like, that's okay.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's not my language.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's someone else's, but that's not my lane.
• 1:22:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's not where I'm gonna thrive and shine.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, there's a lot happening as far as even from COVID time and before that, I remember being on the side of like going into full moons and new moons and the cycles, like nobody was talking about it.
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, everyone's asleep.
• 1:22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what's going on?
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Don't you see the moon in the sky and how things are changing and shifting and how that like somehow affects us?
• 1:22:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then slowly but surely, like it gets starts getting more popular.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_00: So at the same time, you know, Aquarius is also connected to astrology in that sense of like deep understanding because it's an air sign and it's all about the mental um awareness of things.
• 1:22:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's the woo-woo part because you have to go, wait a minute, the stars have an impact.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's the only thing.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: But guess what?
• 1:23:03
  SPEAKER_00: If I were to say this is the Myers-Brigg test, yeah, it's pretty much very similar.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same concepts I talk about.
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I talk about attachment styles, I talk about um introversion, extroversion.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like these are all the same things, but it's just a representation, a different, you know, symbol, let's say a sign is representing that concept.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I I do see that the more people uh follow their light and raise their frequency, it's gonna be the same with the planet.
• 1:23:34
  SPEAKER_00: And the planet's gonna be talking to us.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Planet's like, hey, this isn't this isn't uh working for us here.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but as far as some of the the timing of things, there is a sense of like during eclipse season, for example, but I'm not surprised when I hear there's an earthquake or a flood or something like that.
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not surprised when I hear someone like a celebrity has passed.
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a window, it's a portal.
• 1:24:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why I don't do manifestation on eclipses.
• 1:24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like something's not right in the sky.
• 1:24:06
  SPEAKER_00: The lights, the luminaries are not shining how they should.
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_00: So why would I use an imbalance to help me balance?
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's not how I work.
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I take the time to honor and respect the shadow work that actually happens during eclipse seasons.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then there's other transits, let's say.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's like Uranus, for example, is the planet of innovation, rebellion, authenticity, individuality, and it's in Gemini right now.
• 1:24:35
  SPEAKER_00: So the switch has um really lined up with people being more spoken.
• 1:24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just want to tell you what I think, and I want to feel affirmed.
• 1:24:45
  SPEAKER_00: I want to feel like I'm right.
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_00: So the positives is we're expressing ourselves more and asking questions, which Gemini does to be curious.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's the aligned version of it, is debate.
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Is hey, I want to hear what you think.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_00: But I might not agree with it, but I at least want to hear you out.
• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's aligned energy.
• 1:25:03
  SPEAKER_00: And Uranus is here to shake the collective to go, wait, we have been so like closed off and not open really to hearing each other.
• 1:25:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so you're surprised when there's wars and stalemates and and things not moving forward together.
• 1:25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_00: You're really surprised at that?
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not because we've been so closed off.
• 1:25:24
  SPEAKER_00: And your honest is gonna be like, okay, we can't do this anymore.
• 1:25:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna get so bad that we have to come to the table and figure it out together.
• 1:25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right?
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and still, even then, there's gonna be people who are triggered and point fingers and say, You're wrong, I'm right.
• 1:25:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I see that as their shadow and the projection that they're not willing to, you know, look at themselves and go, why do I feel such a need to either bring that person down?
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I get it all the time.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you don't know anything.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Astrology isn't uh special and you're just a woo-woo lady.
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 1:25:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, of course, but it it it does have a big power to it.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_00: And as far as like the alignment of the collective and the transits, there there is like moments like that, whether it's eclipse season, um, different planets coming together at a certain point.
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_00: We just had one like I'm not gonna name specific like political events or things like that, but like yeah, astrologers do see that track, and the biggest one was COVID.
• 1:26:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can imagine.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it was a huge turning point for everyone.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:26:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know about who what happened for viewers and listening out there, you're more than welcome to drop a comment in the below.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_02: And especially if you're on YouTube and you're watching, but um, but I think it was it was probably one of the best turning points for humanity.
• 1:26:39
  SPEAKER_02: It was necessary, it was necessary for sure.
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, like we couldn't have like known that, you know, and that's the same thing as like any difficult situation you're going through.
• 1:26:49
  SPEAKER_00: The the health issues I had, the relationship issues, I needed that to wake me up to get me back on track.
• 1:26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Now, now do I say to myself, oh yeah, let's suffer in order to get in alignment?
• 1:26:59
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:27:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like I have the tools now, and I can actually just challenge myself.
• 1:27:04
  SPEAKER_00: I can show up and say, instead of having and forcing myself to do it, I'm gonna be the one to lift off.
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm gonna put myself in a situation where I'm gonna push forward despite fear.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_00: Versus a lot of times, like the opposite of the liftoff is the slingshot.
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_00: You're pulled back so far, yeah, that then like life forces you into the liftoff and you're not ready.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have your wings ready to go, and then you fall to the ground and you have to pick yourself back up.
• 1:27:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 1:27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so you know, in that sense, I think we during these global events, these global changes that we're about to experience, um, there's gonna be a lot of resiliency being developed.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_00: And if we're just sitting comfortable, not gonna work.
• 1:27:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's it we don't get the opportunity to see our capacity as an individual and as a society to get through.
• 1:27:54
  SPEAKER_02: She is redhead, so she gets fiery.
• 1:27:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's her fiery energy.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_02: Especially when she's like needing to pick up our daughter.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_02: So she's uh gotta get it done.
• 1:28:05
  SPEAKER_02: But interesting.
• 1:28:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I I see that what is coming up for a lot of people is that if they're not moving forward, like you said earlier in the show, like you're gonna deal with the illness, the issues in the tissue, and then you're gonna deal with pain, and then the pain is gonna be the catalyst for you to be able to make a change.
• 1:28:24
  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't, then unfortunately you're gonna keep repeating over and over and over again.
• 1:28:29
  SPEAKER_02: And then unfortunately, if you don't do the work internally, then you unfortunately will exit this body and this timeline and then have to be reborn to then try it all over again.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that like some people have a hard time grasping that concept.
• 1:28:43
  SPEAKER_02: I know that's can be very brutal for some people, but I was diagnosed with colitis and I was told I'd be in medication for the rest of my life, and I had tubes in my ears, and I was held back in third grade, and then I was repeated again, I was in special education, and I was teased and made fun of and all this stuff.
• 1:28:58
  SPEAKER_02: But like, but I looked at that as like, okay, like what can I learn from it?
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like all your stories.
• 1:29:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then now I look at everything as like a positive.
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_02: Every single thing I think about now, I think to myself, okay, what's the silver lining?
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let's keep it positive.
• 1:29:13
  SPEAKER_02: Let's always look at the the positive of any type of thing because at the end of the day, like it either happens for you or to you.
• 1:29:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, this happens for me.
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_02: This happens for the reason.
• 1:29:23
  SPEAKER_02: And and I think the learning is in the reason, and then and then the wins are just the I'm on the right track, right?
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Is the way that I look at it.
• 1:29:32
  SPEAKER_02: So that way it's just like, you're right.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do you want to go back to the arthritis?
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to have the same?
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_02: Do I want to go through colitis again?
• 1:29:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, but now I'm gonna be more conscious of the fact that the divine is giving me a lesson, and either I I gracefully understand the lesson, and if I totally don't 100% grasp the lesson, fine.
• 1:29:51
  SPEAKER_02: At least I could just self-reflect and then it'll become more clear and then just be open to the catalyst of change.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean, I still I just had like a flare-up this summer.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I was very shocked.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what?
• 1:30:06
  SPEAKER_00: Why is this happening?
• 1:30:08
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I moved on.
• 1:30:08
  SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I moved on, and that's the thing, it's cycles.
• 1:30:12
  SPEAKER_00: And and with the chart and the astrology, we go through seasons and we come back to the exact same place every single time, every single year.
• 1:30:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so I wasn't necessarily surprised because I knew in my astrology, like, oh, this is probably not a great time right now.
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because certain transits and activations are affecting me in a not so great way.
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but because I've been here before, I understand the cycle.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like years ago, there was a similar transit or a similar energy.
• 1:30:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so I had the tools.
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_00: I knew not only on a physical level what I could do to get back on track with the health, but I also knew energetically where I was off.
• 1:30:49
  SPEAKER_01: So, what was the catalyst for the flirt?
• 1:30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, um it was me allowing um suppressive energy back into my life again.
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Something shifted.
• 1:31:02
  SPEAKER_00: I started noticing it, and I wasn't speaking up.
• 1:31:05
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't doing something, I wasn't taking action to create the safety in my life to then just be myself.
• 1:31:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so I was like back in that state of the frequency I used to be in years ago of like allowing people to disrespect me and put me down.
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what's happening?
• 1:31:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I care about these people and they're going through their own thing, but I need to do something for me.
• 1:31:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Not only that, I I like what you mentioned about, you know, not fulfilling our purpose, and then the body saying kind of like, okay, see you later.
• 1:31:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:31:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I've also noticed that where I'm not stepping fully into my purpose and my um, you know, the goals I have.
• 1:31:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:31:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because for whatever reason, I don't believe I can, I don't feel the resources.
• 1:31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's too hot outside, and I'm just like getting off track.
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_00: And um, but then the body calls back to me, like, hey, wait, what are you doing?
• 1:31:57
  SPEAKER_07: What are you doing?
• 1:31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you cannot give up on this.
• 1:31:59
  SPEAKER_00: This is why you're here.
• 1:32:01
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I I heard a quote during the summer that was really um helpful that, like, if you're not fulfilling your purpose, why is your vessel here?
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_00: So your body starts deteriorating because you're not doing what you're supposed to do.
• 1:32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_00: You're not living out why you're here.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_00: So then the body's like, well, I guess you're neglecting this and you don't care.
• 1:32:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't care either.
• 1:32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_00: And every time I start stepping more into my purpose and pursuing my goals, uh, hey, look at that.
• 1:32:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm getting healthier, I'm feeling better, I'm feeling more energized.
• 1:32:32
  SPEAKER_00: The body's just like realigning itself.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have to take all these supplements and I just literally had to show up being who I am to do the thing.
• 1:32:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I did.
• 1:32:41
  SPEAKER_00: I made some hard calls, you know, spoke my honest truth.
• 1:32:46
  SPEAKER_00: I got a little angry.
• 1:32:47
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go.
• 1:32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Not a little, maybe a lot.
• 1:32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and did my own processing with that to connect to the anger and go, what do you need from me?
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there's a value that's not being respected.
• 1:32:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then I need to show up to respect that and show that this is what I will or will not tolerate.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_00: But it's my action that proves it.
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I could say all day long, like this is my standard, but if my action doesn't support it, it's still like you're in that loop, in that cycle.
• 1:33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yes, I know that every July, I'm not gonna be my best because astrologically, that's my low season.
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's when I get more support.
• 1:33:22
  SPEAKER_00: I take it easier, I lower my expectations and I rest.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_00: Just like if you got sick, you're not gonna go run a marathon.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_00: And you're not gonna expect yourself that you could.
• 1:33:30
  SPEAKER_00: So if I'm energetically going through that process of healing, which everybody has this, it's at least a certain time period within the year.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and sometimes it can happen a couple of times during the year.
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like you're going great, you're lifting off, and then like things settle down again, but then you lift off again, right?
• 1:33:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, the activation gets you to change.
• 1:33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Healing that right now.
• 1:33:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so when I know that, instead of resisting it, I lean in, I do the work, and then boom, right, back on track because I restored the energy and I spent the time in that feminine to do that healing work.
• 1:34:02
  SPEAKER_00: So now I can bounce back a lot faster than before, where it would take me months and months to like get back in the groove after that hit of like, oh, here's my low self-esteem, low self-worth again.
• 1:34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I doing this?
• 1:34:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, but it is a sense of like a tree.
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_00: You're growing and there's layers and layers, and you're going back through this cycle over and over every single year of your life.
• 1:34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:34:26
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, why wouldn't you want to know what that path is gonna look like for you for the rest of your life?
• 1:34:32
  SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love that.
• 1:34:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that more or less individuals out there, viewers and listeners, you gotta remember like if you can go within and you could just pay attention and just see how you feel and just feel it and just be in the knowing, it's so beautiful because like you were saying that and I was resonating, so I'm like, hmm.
• 1:34:55
  SPEAKER_02: I sometimes push and I'm like, why am I pushing so hard?
• 1:34:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't need to push that hard.
• 1:35:01
  SPEAKER_02: And there's those seasons, and like literally I had a 95% of the company runs itself.
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_02: And so today I tell my porter, I said, I said, if I'm not like doing our check-ins, money motivation, doing a strategy call in a podcast or doing some follow-up for sales, like I don't have anything to do.
• 1:35:20
  SPEAKER_02: I just honest with them, you know.
• 1:35:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I want to make sure that I have purpose and I like meeting people and I want to do more with coaching and and what have you.
• 1:35:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so uh she's like, so we got back in alignment, like, okay, you can go and do this a little bit more and enjoy this process.
• 1:35:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm all right, cool, I'll do that.
• 1:35:36
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and it's interesting because I think so many people like we think that we can work harder to get to the destination, to pay off the bill, to buy the car, buy the house, take the trip, whatever.
• 1:35:47
  SPEAKER_02: And then we do it, and then we're like, what?
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like you're out of alignment.
• 1:35:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, are you really checking with self for a second?
• 1:35:53
  SPEAKER_02: And ask yourself how you feeling, what's coming up for you, where you at, what's going on.
• 1:35:56
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and I think they can apply that to a lot of entrepreneurs out there.
• 1:36:00
  SPEAKER_02: They think that like they can get to that place and it's just gonna be.
• 1:36:03
  SPEAKER_00: I have seen it firsthand.
• 1:36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is so interesting when the feminine and masculine are so imbalanced in that way.
• 1:36:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're trying to cheat divine timing.
• 1:36:15
  SPEAKER_00: The body, the body will retaliate.
• 1:36:18
  SPEAKER_00: So you're trying to work more and work faster.
• 1:36:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing as saying, I'm gonna plant a seed and then I'm gonna get it to grow twice as fast, three times as fast, five times as fast, and it naturally would.
• 1:36:31
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:36:32
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna grow if you give it consistency, you're in that feminine earth energy, you're providing the right soil, the right amount of sunlight.
• 1:36:39
  SPEAKER_00: It will grow.
• 1:36:40
  SPEAKER_00: You just have to be patient.
• 1:36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:36:42
  SPEAKER_00: You just have to allow it to unfold in its natural season and in its natural way.
• 1:36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Now, yes, sometimes there is a need for pushing.
• 1:36:49
  SPEAKER_00: That is for sure true.
• 1:36:50
  SPEAKER_00: But what I've noticed, like you've said, in entrepreneurs, it's like there's all these goals and deadlines.
• 1:36:56
  SPEAKER_00: And who's truly saying, like, you have to do it in this amount of time?
• 1:37:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's almost like you're trying to prove something and overcompensate to yourself that, like, oh, look at this.
• 1:37:08
  SPEAKER_00: I succeeded, I'm a big shot, I made this happen.
• 1:37:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you're trying to get there faster and faster because you're just feeling so uncomfortable on the inside with where you haven't done the work of self-acceptance, like we were talking about earlier.
• 1:37:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, first, when you are accepting of where you're at and you're growing from that point, it will happen no matter what, because you're not giving up, you're showing up, you're being consistent.
• 1:37:30
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:37:31
  SPEAKER_00: And and so um the burnout is usually the symptom.
• 1:37:36
  SPEAKER_00: And and guess what?
• 1:37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Then you have to take two weeks off, you have to go to the doctor, you have to get all these meds, you're not able to be your productive self anymore for that certain time frame.
• 1:37:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I would say, well, what if you just took it easier?
• 1:37:49
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't you have gotten to the same exact spot in the time frame?
• 1:37:55
  SPEAKER_00: But because you tried to rush the process, then you go from one extreme to the next, and now you're sitting at home, resting in your bed, not able to go to a meeting or go to um that client call because you literally, your body is saying, I'm so burnt out, I'm so exhausted, I cannot do it.
• 1:38:12
  SPEAKER_02: That hey, uh Vit, if you're watching this show, uh love your girl.
• 1:38:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what she did.
• 1:38:19
  SPEAKER_02: So she's like my work wife at lift off.
• 1:38:21
  SPEAKER_02: And she is, she's just she just doesn't give herself grace.
• 1:38:23
  SPEAKER_02: She's I was like, like, take some time off, please.
• 1:38:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, relax.
• 1:38:27
  SPEAKER_02: And she doesn't do it.
• 1:38:28
  SPEAKER_02: And she found herself eating something, and then it turned into food poisoning, it turned into a fever, then she went to the hospital, and then now she's down for like two or three days.
• 1:38:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we found her in the hospital back in 2017 because she overworked herself, didn't have the balance, and then she learned pretty much from that, pretty much.
• 1:38:46
  SPEAKER_02: But like you said, things come in cycles.
• 1:38:48
  SPEAKER_02: So it's come back again, and I straight told her, I said, relax, girl.
• 1:38:52
  SPEAKER_02: I said, relax.
• 1:38:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you don't need to keep pushing so hard, things are working fine, everything's good.
• 1:38:57
  SPEAKER_02: I said, You need to then mask yourself and your body and give your body grace.
• 1:39:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, everything from trace minerals to electrolytes, like you need, you know, apple cider vinegar, gotta get your gut health good.
• 1:39:09
  SPEAKER_02: She drinks way too much coffee, so very much acidic.
• 1:39:12
  SPEAKER_02: So her body couldn't have the good bacteria to really fight whatever she ate.
• 1:39:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and she's in the Philippines and Philippines.
• 1:39:19
  SPEAKER_02: The food out there isn't always the best.
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_02: Ums, I'll tell you that much.
• 1:39:23
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta tell you, I couldn't wait to get back.
• 1:39:25
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh my God, like I felt like I was like hollow inside or something like that.
• 1:39:29
  SPEAKER_02: It was so weird.
• 1:39:30
  SPEAKER_02: Not that American food isn't any better.
• 1:39:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, if you can relate out there, like take some time for self because we do that.
• 1:39:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's like either ego or you're trying to prove something to someone else or yourself.
• 1:39:42
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, it doesn't really matter.
• 1:39:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then the interesting thing too is once you start having success and you start having money, you start having experience, you start buying these things, you're like, well, hmm, I can work harder, I can make more money.
• 1:39:55
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 1:39:55
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I can have more houses and I can have more cars, or I can have more trips, or I can have whatever.
• 1:40:00
  SPEAKER_02: But then you start to find out like it's work.
• 1:40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's maintenance, it's time, it's effort, it's more people you have to hire to manage more stuff.
• 1:40:11
  SPEAKER_02: It is not always that's why you're seeing a lot of people that are like becoming minimalists, they're like in tiny homes with like living off the grid or living in a freaking van and traveling the world because they're just like, I don't want all this freaking maintenance.
• 1:40:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like this house alone, just last month was or this month was like$2,000 just in like electricity and then the pool because all the storms.
• 1:40:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like it's not cheap.
• 1:40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:40:33
  SPEAKER_00: That is, I always think in terms of astrology and science, but that's such a Taurus misalignment.
• 1:40:38
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, really?
• 1:40:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because Taurus is the earth sign that's fixed.
• 1:40:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's the grounded point of like how you feel like you have enough.
• 1:40:45
  SPEAKER_00: And from that grounded place of I have enough, you're connected to an abundant mindset.
• 1:40:50
  SPEAKER_00: So you know there will always be more for you.
• 1:40:53
  SPEAKER_00: So you're not trying to work more.
• 1:40:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's what the entrepreneur thing is, like Tauruses, especially, um, especially male Tauruses, will do that.
• 1:41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, like work 80 hour weeks trying to get everything because of that scarcity mindset.
• 1:41:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:41:07
  SPEAKER_00: Of like, oh, there isn't enough, and I need more, and I need to be the one to make more.
• 1:41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Versus what if I take care of myself?
• 1:41:14
  SPEAKER_00: I work just enough that's comfortable for me.
• 1:41:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I know like I don't have to go to this extravagant level where then I'm gonna have to keep trying to keep up with it.
• 1:41:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:41:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I could actually just feel calmer and more grounded.
• 1:41:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then guess what?
• 1:41:26
  SPEAKER_00: Venus, Taurus, it blesses you by giving you more abundance, commission checks, like ways you could have passive income that you don't actually have to be there to receive, right?
• 1:41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:41:38
  SPEAKER_00: So um, when you pay attention to your body and you honor the feminine within that physical way, the money and the abundance is going to be a match for that.
• 1:41:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I've just seen it where you can you can create more abundance for sure by pushing, but you can lose it just as fast.
• 1:41:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's so interesting.
• 1:41:56
  SPEAKER_02: I love how your whole philosophy ideology, the way you see things, is through the signs.
• 1:42:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's so good.
• 1:42:04
  SPEAKER_02: I could tell you've done extensive research and you understand how it all works to be able to like break that down.
• 1:42:11
  SPEAKER_02: So would you say, like certain people because there's multiple you would say so, on average, how many signs does a person have because of all the astrology?
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's 12 signs that make up the zodiac, right?
• 1:42:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it just depends on everybody's personal, unique design of like when they were born, how many planets were in a certain sign.
• 1:42:33
  SPEAKER_00: So there could be someone who has something in every one of the signs, which is a little more rare.
• 1:42:38
  SPEAKER_00: Similarly, it'd be more rare for it to be like just in one Aries sign or house.
• 1:42:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:42:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, most people have a nice balance of things, you know.
• 1:42:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe like 60, 70% of the signs.
• 1:42:50
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe like eight or nine of them that are more stronger than others.
• 1:42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's where uh, you know, you just knowing that you know what your strength is, where you excel, what language you want to speak, what you should be working towards and embodying.
• 1:43:04
  SPEAKER_00: But like I just said, you could have that energy in you, but you could be imbalanced in it.
• 1:43:08
  SPEAKER_00: And then you're struggling and you're going to the hospital and you're losing money and you're wondering why.
• 1:43:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:43:13
  SPEAKER_00: Why is this not working the way I thought it would?
• 1:43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:43:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're out of alignment with what the season and the energy naturally is.
• 1:43:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, like every sign is associated with a season.
• 1:43:22
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say Aries, Taurus, Gemini is all springtime, right?
• 1:43:25
  SPEAKER_00: And in the Taurus season, which is May primarily, we're just like enjoying the spring.
• 1:43:30
  SPEAKER_00: Look at this, it's like bloomed, everything's blossomed.
• 1:43:34
  SPEAKER_00: But we had a lot of work to do the month prior when all of a sudden everything's like growing out of the ground really fast, and it's getting really warm really fast.
• 1:43:43
  SPEAKER_00: And that's Aries energy, right?
• 1:43:45
  SPEAKER_00: So when we understand the flow of the seasons, we can connect to that every single month, every single season, every single year, we go up and we go down, we go back and forth between what nature has already given to us as a blueprint for how we should live our life.
• 1:43:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, interesting.
• 1:44:01
  SPEAKER_02: So would you say that, like, so from an astronomical standpoint, if you are saying I don't know, maybe your two or three different signs depending on the birthday and the alignment of the planets, would you say that it's a good idea for someone and they could take the process, go through the process of getting their chart, and then when they find their partner, finding someone that would be a good match based off of that, so that way they can balance each other with the different signs?
• 1:44:26
  SPEAKER_00: That is that is a very interesting question.
• 1:44:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I have some takes on this.
• 1:44:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I have seen people who have not so great alignment in their charts, like my parents.
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_00: And they're married for 38 years now.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_00: Happily.
• 1:44:43
  SPEAKER_00: Who's really happily married forever and ever, right?
• 1:44:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's moments, there's always like happy moments, not so happy moments, right?
• 1:44:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I would never say, like, oh, you're just blissfully in love forever, right?
• 1:44:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's just not realistic.
• 1:44:55
  SPEAKER_00: Are you always happy with yourself every day?
• 1:44:57
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:44:58
  SPEAKER_00: So are you gonna be happy with your partner for the rest of your life?
• 1:45:00
  SPEAKER_00: Probably there's gonna be times when you are tense, and there are those transits or activations that could be those seasons in a relationship that are a bit more of a struggle that you're going through.
• 1:45:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and on the flip side, you could have charts that are very synchronized and very aligned.
• 1:45:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've met a person like that with me.
• 1:45:19
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't work out.
• 1:45:20
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 1:45:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's not just the astrology.
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_00: There's values, how you want to live your life.
• 1:45:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, do you want to travel a lot?
• 1:45:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, I don't.
• 1:45:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, okay, that might be a sticking point.
• 1:45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you want kids?
• 1:45:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't.
• 1:45:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that has nothing really to do with necessarily the sign.
• 1:45:35
  SPEAKER_00: But what but what does help, and I would hope for people, is to find a partner who you can communicate well with.
• 1:45:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I would look at your Mercury signs.
• 1:45:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's a very underrated hack.
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you're the way you understand things in Express is very different in intention with your partners.
• 1:45:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the thing that gets you through those many years, is how do you talk to each other and get through certain aspects of life and how do you think about certain aspects of life?
• 1:46:03
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, those other aspects too, like your emotions and your moon sign.
• 1:46:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, those are really important connections too.
• 1:46:09
  SPEAKER_00: What I will say though is when you fall in love with someone, you want to fall in love with them for who they are and not for who you want them to be.
• 1:46:18
  SPEAKER_00: And the astrology chart is gonna tell you this is who they actually really are.
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_00: And for me, it was very healing to look at my parents' charts and my chart and go, oh, that's just who they are, and this is how I am, and we're just never gonna really click in that way for this thing.
• 1:46:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then I look at my dad's chart and my brother's chart, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you guys are best friends, and you just get along so well because literally you have like the same placements, the same energy.
• 1:46:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, yeah, I get it now.
• 1:46:46
  SPEAKER_00: I see it in real time of where there's some disconnect.
• 1:46:49
  SPEAKER_00: But guess what?
• 1:46:49
  SPEAKER_00: I can still love my parents and they can still love me, even though we're very different, even though we don't get along as well as let's say my brother and my dad do.
• 1:46:56
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 1:46:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I give it, I look at it like when you understand your own chart and then your your partners, your parents, your your um daughter's chart, you get an opportunity to go.
• 1:47:07
  SPEAKER_00: This is how they want to be loved.
• 1:47:09
  SPEAKER_00: This is how they actually want you to embrace them versus you trying to change them into something else, which is what I experienced growing up.
• 1:47:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, don't be fiery, be more earth, just stay on this level.
• 1:47:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:21
  SPEAKER_00: And that was so disheartening because you're not loving me for who I really am and giving me the opportunity to show that and be in partnership and relationship with you as I am.
• 1:47:29
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes, yes, who I am is just it's not gonna mesh with someone else, right?
• 1:47:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there's definitely layers to that.
• 1:47:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I see things online about like compatibility, I'm just like ooh, it's it's just not that simple.
• 1:47:42
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you could you could astrologically be a great match, but it just doesn't work out.
• 1:47:47
  SPEAKER_00: You could be a difficult matchup and it actually does work out, and it's like a choice at the end of the day.
• 1:47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Am I gonna choose to go into this life and align our energies in the best way possible or not?
• 1:48:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because I actually there's something beyond that, which is just a divine love.
• 1:48:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just very interesting because I come from an analytical standpoint where, like, when you're saying that, I was like, hmm, partnership, how would that work?
• 1:48:13
  SPEAKER_02: Or like from entrepreneurship, hiring, how would that work?
• 1:48:16
  SPEAKER_02: Because like you have like Myers Briggs, personality types, stuff like that.
• 1:48:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you have proactive, reactional people.
• 1:48:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so just thinking about all of it, because it's like it's another tool in the toolbox to be able to navigate certain things.
• 1:48:29
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 1:48:29
  SPEAKER_02: I have not used astrology to navigate as much.
• 1:48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Not that it's I think that it's probably less an alignment from the perspective of like, I'm I'm a kind of like a free spirit a little bit.
• 1:48:41
  SPEAKER_02: I like to just like just experience and and and like I like to understand and like get into your world and like share it with everyone.
• 1:48:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so then if it's an alignment, then hey, like get a reading or go deeper into it or whatever the case may be.
• 1:48:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I wouldn't mind like getting reading myself and understanding that because there's also like human design.
• 1:48:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, right, and like there's that process and Myers Briggs, and there's that process, and then like you know, personality type tests, and so you can find so it's so interesting.
• 1:49:08
  SPEAKER_02: There's so many different levels to things, but it's true.
• 1:49:11
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you just have to like be just just be and just it is and just have fun, and you never know.
• 1:49:19
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe things will align with it.
• 1:49:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think I'm not even gonna try to remember ours, but I feel like my wife and I aren't compatible based off the astrology.
• 1:49:28
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have to go deeper as it's into it, but it works oddly as far as and also like my business partner, like he is the most opposite of me, and you would think like, how do these two work?
• 1:49:39
  SPEAKER_02: Right, but like we co create like seamlessly and we're on the same page, and like there is no like you know, I'm taking something, he's taking something, there's no worries, there's no nothing.
• 1:49:49
  SPEAKER_02: We're very much just like on the same path, which is super cool.
• 1:49:52
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, so I just want to put that out there as a cliff note for viewers on this show is like take it for what it is, because I could I can imagine someone could get Obsessive with this process.
• 1:50:03
  SPEAKER_02: Have you ever also dealt with that to like people?
• 1:50:07
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:50:08
  SPEAKER_00: You'll see it under those um videos from astrologers in that lower frequency, like I mentioned.
• 1:50:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:14
  SPEAKER_00: And people because they're so disempowered, you can use any tool in an abusive way.
• 1:50:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:50:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I do not want to work with someone who's going to come and ask me, like, but when will this just happen for me?
• 1:50:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're saying it's outside of your creation and ability that something is making it happen versus me saying, no, it's the weather, and you get to choose how you show up.
• 1:50:38
  SPEAKER_00: Do you take the umbrella when it's raining or you don't?
• 1:50:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:50:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:50:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's your choice at the end of the day.
• 1:50:43
  SPEAKER_00: So if someone, and you know, I completely understand when you're in desperation and you're just wanting anything and anything to like help you get out of the situation you're in, you're gonna look at something magical like astrology and go, well, maybe it can just like give me that hope of like when it will stop being this way.
• 1:51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:51:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I can say, well, yes, the storm technically will be over in a couple months or a couple of days, but it's still up to you to really do the work to align with the energy and understand that it's a tool, like anything, it can be used to a certain extent.
• 1:51:16
  SPEAKER_00: Now, there's certain people and certain signs that I've read charts for it that actually I did a video about this just recently, like tallied up.
• 1:51:23
  SPEAKER_00: What signs have I talked to the most?
• 1:51:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so there is a theme, and then and it makes sense as far as going into it of like why Virgos are going to be so much more drawn to something like astrology versus like, I was I was like, I still feel like you're very Sagittarius because my wife's Virgo.
• 1:51:44
  SPEAKER_00: I want to know about it, but I don't need it necessarily because again, you're operating from fire, which is not the mind, it's not like mental or air, or it's not like Virgo, which is ruled by Mercury, which is also connected to the mind and like analyzing and organizing through data and information.
• 1:51:59
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like every tool, like whether that's sound healing, is gonna appeal to different people's needs and different energies and different signs at certain times.
• 1:52:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I am all for balance, right?
• 1:52:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, like when I was saying, well, there's there's layers to it, I still do agree with you.
• 1:52:16
  SPEAKER_00: I I definitely want to know my partner's chart.
• 1:52:18
  SPEAKER_00: I want to know those things.
• 1:52:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just not going to write someone off because of it.
• 1:52:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to like say, well, too bad, your sun sign's not like the one it should be.
• 1:52:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so I can't talk to you, I can't connect with you.
• 1:52:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:52:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's what I don't love, that kind of vibe when it comes to the spiritual interest in astrology with it, because people really don't want to go deeper with it because this is a very deep healing tool when you really work with it like I do on such a connected basis to like the the transits and the day to day, the month to month, the year to year.
• 1:52:50
  SPEAKER_00: But absolutely, like there's yin and yang.
• 1:52:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's really important for chemistry as well.
• 1:52:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there you go.
• 1:52:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:52:59
  SPEAKER_02: Fire and ice.
• 1:53:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
• 1:53:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, we need both to work together because guess what?
• 1:53:07
  SPEAKER_00: You're there's a driver's seat in the car and a passenger seat in the car.
• 1:53:10
  SPEAKER_00: There's not two driver's seats.
• 1:53:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that'd be a little chaotic.
• 1:53:13
  SPEAKER_00: That would be a little chaotic.
• 1:53:14
  SPEAKER_00: So when I when I talk to couples, I'm like, there's times when you have to take the passenger seat and you have to let the other person in the driver's seat.
• 1:53:21
  SPEAKER_00: And some people will want to be more in that passenger seat more than the driver's seat, and vice versa.
• 1:53:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:53:28
  SPEAKER_00: So when it comes to understanding your partner's chart, you go, oh, that's why we keep fighting about that.
• 1:53:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm resisting the natural balance of how we operate.
• 1:53:36
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:53:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because of whatever trauma or um situation that happened to me in another relationship that I'm now bringing into this dynamic.
• 1:53:44
  SPEAKER_00: So it helps to clarify.
• 1:53:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then again, you still have to do the work to harmonize after that.
• 1:53:49
  SPEAKER_00: Just because you know it doesn't mean all of a sudden you're you're harmonious, you never fight, you never have an argument.
• 1:53:54
  SPEAKER_00: But there is a sense of pull of like the polarity of the masculine, the fire air signs and the feminine, the earth and the water science that work together just like the seasons throughout the year.
• 1:54:04
  SPEAKER_00: If it was Aries and Leo season and Sagittarius all year long, I think we'd be really, really burnt out.
• 1:54:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:54:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:54:11
  SPEAKER_00: We need the contrast.
• 1:54:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, like in partnership, you need contrast too.
• 1:54:15
  SPEAKER_00: And that doesn't mean you're not compatible.
• 1:54:18
  SPEAKER_00: And that, like I was saying, like you could look at my parents' charts and go, oh, well, there's this and there's that.
• 1:54:23
  SPEAKER_00: But actually, they kind of fill each other's cups.
• 1:54:25
  SPEAKER_00: I will make a note though, there are certain like connections in a chart where I would be like, Oh, I want to avoid that.
• 1:54:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like that, that's that's a not so great.
• 1:54:34
  SPEAKER_00: That that's looking karmic to me.
• 1:54:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:54:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so can you get through it?
• 1:54:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:54:40
  SPEAKER_00: But is it gonna be a lot more work?
• 1:54:42
  SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be a lot heavier of an energy?
• 1:54:45
  SPEAKER_00: Most likely, because it mirrors the sense of if I was to take the chart of the sky right now and look at my chart and see how it's activating me, there will be those times as well.
• 1:54:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is a karmic moment, or oh, this is a deep healing shadow work time for me, right?
• 1:55:00
  SPEAKER_00: So the same thing when you bridge two people's energies together, there's like, oh, oh, that's that's not looking great.
• 1:55:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like I might be very drained because of this person, or they might do something difficult, but I never want to just blanket statement and be like, it will happen, right?
• 1:55:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's where I've even had a session where someone was talking to another astrologer, came to me and said, This person's gonna harm you.
• 1:55:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like definitively.
• 1:55:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, how on earth could they say that?
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_00: Just because of this energy, seemingly like, yeah, it doesn't look great.
• 1:55:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but uh how I would never just blanket statement, say like a psychic, like, oh, this person will harm you, you have to dunk them and leave them.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the sad part of like not every astrologer out there is going to be in your best interest um and tell you the interpretation of the full spectrum of possibilities.
• 1:55:52
  SPEAKER_00: It could go actually really well.
• 1:55:54
  SPEAKER_00: This person could be very transformative for you, and you need that.
• 1:55:57
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's why you're connecting on that soul contract level.
• 1:56:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you need this, you know, discomfort to activate you.
• 1:56:04
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it is your forever person, maybe it's not, but there's a reason you're connecting, and the astrology can show us that of like, oh, here's where that root is of where the connection is and why this is happening.
• 1:56:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so you find meaning in that.
• 1:56:17
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, it's like, yeah, you could have a really great chart and you could enjoy it for a little while and then they go off on their own, and you go off on your own, and it's not your person either.
• 1:56:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, um, yeah, there's a lot of layers to it, but ultimately I do I do see it as a really beneficial tool.
• 1:56:33
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, that's why I keep using it and work with it.
• 1:56:36
  SPEAKER_02: I can see why there's a psychology mix with the astrology because I feel like psychology and talking to the person and understanding how the dynamic of a relationship works, and then also looking at the astrology.
• 1:56:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I can imagine.
• 1:56:51
  SPEAKER_02: So for your sessions, do you go a little like do you have like questions that you ask them to understand the dynamics first?
• 1:56:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then after you see the dynamic, then you can go into the astrology and then make your overall like decision or look at the bigger picture and say, okay, I could see where things are out of alignment or whatever the case may be.
• 1:57:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I do a bit of both.
• 1:57:12
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:57:12
  SPEAKER_00: So typically, if a person just wants to do a one-on-one session, like an introductory session, I have to like give you as much information as I can within that certain time frame.
• 1:57:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I will pretty much just start, you know, interpreting the chart, giving you the insights, and then mixed into it, maybe something comes up and you're like, oh yeah, and this really relates to that, and this is what's been happening, and we definitely touch on it.
• 1:57:33
  SPEAKER_00: However, from that therapeutic lens, I have a monthly program where we do a session every month and I give you the horoscope for the month, but I do ask, like, hey, what's coming up for you right now?
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_00: What's the situation?
• 1:57:46
  SPEAKER_00: What's what's the struggle?
• 1:57:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then I go, and then here's the chart, and it's explaining XYZ.
• 1:57:52
  SPEAKER_00: We can see the dates where that's going to be activated.
• 1:57:54
  SPEAKER_00: I just had a session with someone.
• 1:57:55
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, I almost had a complete emergency breakdown.
• 1:57:58
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to like reach out to you because something was like, my insecurities were coming up and I was just having a really hard time.
• 1:58:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then I go, Did you see the did you see the horse cover dates I I gave you?
• 1:58:08
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Oh, wait.
• 1:58:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then we literally put up like literally on that exact date, you had that breakdown that I said, uh, this is probably gonna be a difficult time for you.
• 1:58:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:58:17
  SPEAKER_00: So, um, in that sense, I I I love working with people more consistently long term as well, because I can be that guy to like bring you back.
• 1:58:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:58:26
  SPEAKER_00: Versus like she had that moment and then she just like goes off into that lower frequency and doesn't have the lift off again to come back into alignment.
• 1:58:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it depends just how in-depth a person wants to go.
• 1:58:39
  SPEAKER_00: If someone's just like curious and, you know, hey, what does my charts say?
• 1:58:43
  SPEAKER_00: We're probably not gonna go that deep in in two hours.
• 1:58:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but if if someone's like, wow, that was like really life-changing, you really helped me see how my imbalances have led to certain ways of being in my life.
• 1:58:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I want to do more and I want to continue on this journey, then I'm there for you as well in that in that level too.
• 1:59:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I've heard people say after a set, even one session, they go like, this was like better than therapy.
• 1:59:07
  SPEAKER_00: This was like a year's worth of therapy in one go.
• 1:59:09
  SPEAKER_00: So it's very intense, I would say.
• 1:59:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not for everyone, it's not for the person whose um like uh defense mechanisms, walks have been up and you've been really resistant, but most of those people don't reach out anyway.
• 1:59:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's it's a very small population of people who are into astrology who actually also reach out to an astrologer and say, like a therapist, right?
• 1:59:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're gonna reach out to someone to actually support you and mentor you.
• 1:59:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I also am adjustable.
• 1:59:36
  SPEAKER_00: So like if someone comes to me and they've like been like, well, I never really like knew anything about astrology and I was just curious.
• 1:59:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, I don't need to go that deep with you.
• 1:59:44
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:59:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of just like tune in, you know, to a person to see are they willing, are they wanting to go deeper or not?
• 1:59:51
  SPEAKER_00: So um I can I can be of service to anybody at any level, but I I do love to go, you know, have the client who has the the desire to go very deep, because that's me.
• 2:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's my Scorpio talking.
• 2:00:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's like, let's do it, let's go in there, let's purge it out, let's like rip out the band-aid and and start the healing process.
• 2:00:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I can be there with you as a guide through that, but I I I love it all, you know what I mean?
• 2:00:16
  SPEAKER_00: It it's just so cool to see whatever it is that a person needs, they get from it, and then life goes on and and I meet more people all the time.
• 2:00:23
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, which is super cool, and that's what it's about, right?
• 2:00:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's about just ebb and flow, go through the process, meet cool people, see how you can be of service, and it's just so cool, and I'm so grateful to have these different types of modalities on our experience, so then people could like see what lane they want to go in, and whether that's gonna be astrology, or maybe it's Reiki, or maybe it's like both with the medium, both, right?
• 2:00:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like yoga, there's just so many different things, and that's where it's just like I'm excited to empower more people to then like go down these different paths, see what they can come up for them, and um, and I appreciate you like being open, and it was interesting before you came on the show.
• 2:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: You said you like you just kind of felt it that like it was an alignment to come on.
• 2:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 2:01:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I've definitely surrendered more to the Pisces flow.
• 2:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I'm not Pisces at all, but like the divine and the synchronicities have just been working in my favor the last couple years because that's what we've been into.
• 2:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: The true nodes been in Pisces.
• 2:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: So all of us have been tuning in more into like, I had a plan, it didn't work out, and I either can be very sad about it, try to control it, try to resist it, or I can see the divine has a better plan for me.
• 2:01:33
  SPEAKER_00: I I see the divine is working behind the scenes for me.
• 2:01:38
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