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Should Dallan Hayden Have A Bigger Role In The Ohio State Offense? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, October fifteenth. I'm your host,
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  tom Or. The Penn State game is in six days, the game
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  against Michigan in forty one days. Ohio State has what maybe seemed at times
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  like it could have been the biggest trap game on the schedule. Safely in
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  its rearview mirror, Ohio State forty one produce seven never really in doubt.
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  It was Purdue had the ball, They got the ball to start the game,
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  they went down the field, missed a field goal. Ohio State got
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  the ball back, had the Marvin Harrison drive that ended in with a Marvin
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  Harrison touchdown, and it just never felt like Ohio State was in any real
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  danger after that. Kevin and based on so so many previous trips to this
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  rass Ad Stadium, that was probably a welcome, welcome site for Ohio State
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  fans. We're talking about your bawl eligible Ohio State Buckeyes. Oh that's the
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  way that sixth win. How did we not mention that on two hours of
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  post game? I know, I know, well, I get that tweet
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  out every year and most people get the joke, and one person is always
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  a little little Oh, they're like, what are you talking about. This
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  team doesn't just compete for bullligibility. I'm like, I know that's the joke.
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  But yeah, it was not a game that really ever felt like it
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  was in danger. Certainly they felt that way in previous games this season.
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  We knew that Purdue was a little banged up in Ohio State was able to
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  do something as well. There's still some things that require a decent amount of
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  work. You worry a little bit maybe about the health of the team,
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  but you know, it's a physical game, regardless of who it is you're
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  playing, and contact sport is going to have contact injury sometimes. So I
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  think all in all that Ryan Day and his team is happy to get out
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  of here with a dub and I'm sure we'll find another game to talk about
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  as being the next trap. Yeah, and they got to go to Wisconsin
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  the week after Penn State, so we'll get there eventually. But you know,
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  this was a game where Ohio State was playing Purdue was missing a bunch
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  of guys, and I think that kind of colors some of the conversation we
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  have here. I mean, it has to dominated the predue offensive line,
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  but the offensive line was missing a couple of guys, so you know,
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  how much does that mean? We got to kind of sort that out.
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  But Ohio, it was missing a bunch of guys too, was playing without
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  Trey Van Henderson, without Lyon Williams, chip train him goes down with an
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  injury part way through the game, and then they off the bench comes Dalan
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  Hayden, who this week. Right this week, Ryan Day talked about the
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  fact that you know, well, the plan is to red shirt him and
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  he's only gonna play. You know, we're gonna try and keep it in
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  four games, preserve that year of eligibility for him. You don't want to,
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  you know, have him play six games, but he's only getting three
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  carries in the game, and it's not really you know, you're not you
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  don't want to burn a year of eligibility just to burn a year of eligibility.
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  After watching Dalan Hayden on Saturday at Purdue and having seen Dalan Hayden against
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  Maryland last year, I think that you might want to look at giving Dalan
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  Hayden more carries and sort of seeing what you got because it you've had limited
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  exposure to him, but both times you've seen him out there as sort of,
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  you know, the main guy due to injury. It's looked pretty consistent,
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  and it's looked pretty good. Yeah, this isn't a case of him
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  going out and getting three or four carries in garbage time. The Maryland game.
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  He had to really carry the mail in this game. There was a
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  stretch where he had to be the guy. And it's difficult to just sit
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  there and say, well, based on this small sample size, he should
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  be the number one back or the number two back. But what he should
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  be for sure is in the mix in my opinion, and I guarantee you
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  if you ask Dallan, and if you ask his dad Aaron, if you
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  do you want to sit there and forego that year of eligibility that you'd be
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  able to keep with a red shirt and play this year, I guarantee you
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  the answer is going to be yes. We don't see a lot of fifth
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  year running backs out there that have an NFL track because we know you get
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  a limited amount of hits, there's a limited amount of tread on those tires.
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  I think that I think they have to have some real honest conversations internally
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  that come up with a result of we need to sit there and see more.
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  Dallan, Yeah, it feels like that the running game looked much better
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  than it has. It felt like they maybe found some answers there with Dlan
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  Hayden. They maybe found some answers in the goal line situation as well.
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  Hayden looked okay down there. But they also had put in the Devin Brown
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  package formerly known as the Tate Martell package, where the starting quarterback drops off
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  the field, the backup quarterback who's a little more mobile comes in and for
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  the first time they ran it, it worked great. The second time they
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  ran it and they turned the ball over, But it feels like maybe they've
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  found something there too. Yeah, we have all been wondering when we're gonna
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  see the ground Brown package, and we finally got to see it. And
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  you know, to take something off of you know, off of a okay
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  weekly podcast after the game, why show it this week? Well you can
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  make some arguments there now, and now you give Penn States something else to
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  look at. You can sit there and certainly do different things out of those
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  formations. It's not necessarily uh, well, this is all we can think
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  of right here. We got these two or three plays and well, damn
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  it. If we can't. If we if they don't work, I don't
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  know, we're all out of ideas. So there's there's a lot to it.
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  But I'm okay with everybody wants to be vanilla up until they're big game.
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  But if you have not gone out there and taken and played some of
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  these real plays outside of the laboratory, you really don't know what you have.
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  Yeah, you have to you have to do some stuff. I mean,
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  you can't. You can't just save everything for you know, the the
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  two big games on the schedule. You're gonna and you're gonna iterate off of
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  what you showed against Purdue. Yeah, they showed, you know, their
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  runs, and they showed you know, they showed him throwing once. But
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  you're gonna have different plays off of that. And so there's you know,
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  there are plenty of chances to expand what they were ran against against Perdue next
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  week against Penn State. And you know, it also gives Penn State somebody
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  worry about this week during practice that you only have so much time during practice,
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  you only have so much film prep time. Now that's one more thing
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  that they get thrown on their plate this week and because they have had They've
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  had a lot of time. They they had a week off and then they
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  played U mass on Saturday, and I think the week before that they played
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  Penn Northwestern. So they've really had three games in a row that were not
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  particularly challenging leading up to that Ohio State game. But we'll get the Penn
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  State game later. Let's talk a little bit about the defensive side of the
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  ball, Perdue. As I mentioned earlier, offensive line was banged up.
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  You don't want to know immediately say greatest defensive line in the history of football.
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  But the defensive line looked against a banged up Purdue offensive line like you
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  should look against a banged up offensive offensive line. Yeah, they were able
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  to get home a couple of times. With Hudson Card, somebody who was
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  sacked six times against Iowa in the previous game, had several games where he'd
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  been sacked twice. Ohio State was able to get in there and really chase
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  him around. And while there are a couple of times Ohio State didn't at
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  home, they were able to force Hutson Card into some bad decisions, into
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  some bad throws and things along those lines. But it was an encouraging step
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  in terms of if you just look at it in a vacuum, it's like
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  finally seeing the line get home, seeing that pressure, seeing them seeing them
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  get home with just a four man rush. Some five man rush it thrown
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  in there too. I think if you are a believer in momentum and success
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  beginning success, it's happening at the right time then And obviously Penn State's gonna
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  be a little bit more challenging. But you know, I think there's a
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  mixed story out there how good Penn State's offensive line is. I'm probably more
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  on the negative side of thinking that it may be better than usual, but
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  I don't think it is a great line by any stretch of the imagination.
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  They lost Land and Tagwall at the beginning of the season, one of their
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  starting guards. I mean, obviously they've had enough games played now that the
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  guy who stepped into that role isn't exactly green. But it'll be interesting to
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  see what happens on next Saturday on Fox twelve pm, Big noon kickoff when
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  the Buck Guy's host of the Nitney Alliance and there are after the game.
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  You know, the buck Gys lost several players injury either before or during the
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  game just to run through them real quick. Travaon Henderson to Mecca Abuka did
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  not play, Chip Trainum Mayan Williams did not play. Those were injuries prior
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  to the game. Chip Train him look like he probably got his bell rung
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  on a big hit, so he left the game didn't come back. The
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  other one was Denzel Burke. Denzel Burke is maybe potentially of all of those,
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  the most impactful because what is you know, they are so deep at
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  wide receiver that you know they can play without a Mecca a Booka. You
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  obviously want to have him there. Denzil Burg has been so good, he
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  has been the lockdown guy. It's just that side of the field. You
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  don't even you don't even look, you don't even worry about it. We
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  don't know what happened with denzil Burg. No one seems to have a straight
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  answer on that, and they didn't give any kind of updates. That feels
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  like that might be one of the biggest stories going into this Penn State game.
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  What happened, what's the deal and how is that going to impact his
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  availability for that Penn Stak game. Yeah, I'll be ready to drink every
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  time we were asked over on the huddle board or on social about that one.
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  I've already been asked multiple times just here in the hours after the game,
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  and we don't know what we don't know. I mean, obviously,
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  Ohio State is blessed with having Jordan Hancock and David said they've been osen,
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  and then we certainly saw Jermaine Matthews step in and get some meaningful minutes.
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  But I don't know if I want to thrust a true freshman into the Penn
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  State game. I mean, obviously we've seen situations where young guys like jay
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  R. Brown have been thrust into those those types of spots, especially with
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  Ohio State being a little thin in the corner in previous seasons, they're getting
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  a little bit deeper. Now. You want to have Denzel Burke. I
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  mean, maybe Drew Allary' is not lighting the world on fire, maybe they're
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  not doing a lot of downfield passing, but you still want to have somebody
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  who is by far your best cover guy, somebody who really has a grasp
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  on everything. And I'm not talking like a Binosa type of grasp where it's
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  more like this, but yeah, you want to get him back. Yeah,
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  So we'll be keeping an eye on that story, among many other things
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  this week as the Buckeyes head into head into one of the biggest games on
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  the college football calendar this year. I mean, the Big Ten East is
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  just so good that the top three teams in the Big Ten East are all
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  legitimate college football playoff and probably national championship contenders. I think you could make
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  an argument that any three of any of those three teams o highest at Michigan
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  Penn State could very easily not just make the college football Playoff, but win
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  a college football playoff game or perhaps two. It'll be it'll it'll be quite
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  a week in Columbus, quite a week at bucke huddle dot com as we
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  take a look at that game and all the many, many, many storylines
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  that we're gonna have to break down the week. Looking at the you know,
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  just from the Penn State side, Boy, they this this is a
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  get over the hump game the you know for for Ohio State, Ohio State.
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  How Ohio State fans feel about Michigan, and oh boy, they really
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  need to beat Michigan this year. They've lost twice to Michigan in a row.
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  Penn State has beaten Ohio State once since twenty eleven. I mean,
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  I think Penn State fans are pretty hungry for a win over Ohio State.
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  Drew Rowler coming into a hostile stadium for the first time, having to play
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  at Ohio Stadium, that's gonna be a challenge. I know he played at
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  Michigan last year, but he wasn't the starter we came in. I think
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  after Shoan Clifford got hurt. This is gonna be I think a the first
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  time this season where he's the guy and he's got to face a hostile crowd,
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  best defense he will have faced. How's that offensive lying in a hold
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  up? How's the o High State defensive Lilyne in a hold up? How's
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  the Ohio State offensive line in a hold up? I mean, we've there
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  are a million stories to talk about this week, coming into a very very
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  big game. So that'll be ah, it'll be a fun week. What
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  what is is, give me the one storyline that you think is either the
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  most interesting to you or the one that's going to have the biggest potential impact
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  on next week's game. Well, normally we talk a little bit before the
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  show, and I've a minute to process things. There are a lot of
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  things there. I think that the biggest thing for me is going to be
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  who is going to be running the ball for Ohio State and how are they
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  going to be doing it? Obviously, as I gave a real roaring endorsement
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  of Penn State's offensive line, the fact is is that their offensive line or
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  whatever state it is, still Sydney significantly better than when purduece was today.
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  Especially losing a player had to be carted off. Prayers up to him and
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  with whatever's happening with his injury. But who's going to be running for Ohio
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  State? Are you going to see Trevian Henderson back? Are we gonna see
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  Mayan Williams owe? What? What does you know? Chip train them?
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  Are they going to really finally take Dalan Hayden out of the mylar you know,
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  protective coding and just say to have with us, we're going to play
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  him. I think that Ohio State is going to have to be able to
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  fight with both arms, running and passing to be able to get to the
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  goal of winning the game. This Purdue team or this Penn State team is
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  not a joke. And I have a feeling all of our scores are going
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  to be clustered pretty tight, and I don't think you're going to see a
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  lot of wide variants in at least margin of victory one way or the other.
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  I mean, maybe, you know, maybe we may feel a little
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  bit differently of oh, is this going to be a low scoring game or
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  a super low scoring game? And then of course when we say that it's
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  ends up being a high one. Yeah, that's when it ends up forty
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  eight to forty five, and everyone kind of goes, but how one other
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  note that we did want and at least mention here. Ohio State added a
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  twenty twenty five cornerback commit on the defensive side of the ball, four star
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  corner out of the Baltimore powerhouse Saint Francis Academy. That is, Blake would
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  be didn't call h Jayden wouldn't be. Look at that. I was sure
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  I was going to do it. Blake would be. Ohio State lands that
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  commitment. You can find much more on that news, as well as all
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  the game and reaction and all that good stuff all at Buckeye Huddle dot com.
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  And I'll make sure you are also following us on YouTube at YouTube dot
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  com. Slash Buckeye huddle. That'll do it for today. I thank you
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  guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.