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Todd Blanche Avoids Deposition as Federal Judge Sides With DOJ in Epstein Survivors' Lawsuit (11/7/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Over the past few days, we've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about the attempt to get Todd Blanche to sit for
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  Speaker 1: a deposition in the lawsuit filed by the Epstein survivors
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  Speaker 1: against the federal government. And according to the federal government,
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  Speaker 1: Todd Blanche shouldn't have to sit for a deposition because
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  Speaker 1: of something called the Apex Doctrine. So that was the
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  Speaker 1: issue before the judge. And the judge has made a
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  Speaker 1: ruling on that issue. So in this episode, that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about. And to do that,
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  Speaker 1: we have an article from Law and Crime. Headline, Apex Doctrine.
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  Speaker 1: Trump admin dodges deposition as court grants protective order for
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  Speaker 1: Todd Blanch and Epstein victims lawsuit. Plaintiffs will get some
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  Speaker 1: limited discovery. This article was authored by Colin Kambacher. The
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration scored a victory on Thursday. As the federal
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  Speaker 1: court ruled, U.S. Attorney General Todd Blanch will not have
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  Speaker 1: to sit for a deposition in a lawsuit brought by
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  Speaker 1: victims of Jeffrey Epstein. Well, that might be a victory here.
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  Speaker 1: But considering what's going on in Congress, I wouldn't exactly
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  Speaker 1: be too excited if I was Todd Blanch. Because you
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  Speaker 1: know that the subpoena party is on its way. And
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  Speaker 1: you know that people are going to have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions for you. When it comes to managing this
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  Speaker 1: whole entire Epstein debacle. Because Todd Blanche's fingerprints are all
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  Speaker 1: over it. And my guess is... If the ship goes down...
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  Speaker 1: Todd Blanche is going to be the one left holding
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  Speaker 1: the bag. What, you think Trump is going to ride
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  Speaker 1: in to save him? Mr. Hero Donald Trump? Mr. Lame
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  Speaker 1: Duck President Donald Trump? That guy's not going to save anybody.
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  Speaker 1: In fact... he's going to have a problem saving himself.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the writing's on the wall, and it's not
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  Speaker 1: just the left. These senators and congressmen that are left,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to go down with Trump. There's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a massive turn. And if and when it
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  Speaker 1: gets to a point where there's investigations into Trump, he's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be able to rely on the Senate
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  Speaker 1: or Congress to save his ass. Because I think at
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  Speaker 1: this point, everybody knows that the party's over. All the bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: all the talking down to people, calling shit a hoax,
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  Speaker 1: interjecting himself in just about everything. People are done with it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what was repudiated at the ballot box. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: it's one thing to break balls and be sarcastic. It's
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  Speaker 1: a whole ass other thing to be the president of
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  Speaker 1: the United States and acting like he acts. That shit
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  Speaker 1: is unacceptable. And I think it's worn thin on even
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  Speaker 1: the most ardent supporters in Congress and the Senate. And
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  Speaker 1: unlike the first time around, I believe that there is
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  Speaker 1: obvious malfeasance here. And I think that the cover-up is
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  Speaker 1: the way to go. If you're looking to get accountability
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  Speaker 1: and you want to hold these people accountable, that's how
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  Speaker 1: you get there. Now, if something else opens up, great.
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  Speaker 1: But for that to happen, you have to open the
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  Speaker 1: door first. In September 2024, a group of women alleging
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  Speaker 1: that they were abused by Epstein filed a complaint against
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  Speaker 1: the U.S. government. under the federal Tordax claim, which allows
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  Speaker 1: a party to sue for a financial compensation. The women,
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  Speaker 1: referred to collectively as Jane Doe's, contend that the agencies
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  Speaker 1: such as the FBI and U.S. Department of Justice, under
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  Speaker 1: different administrations in the preceding decades, did not properly handle
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  Speaker 1: or investigate the Epstein scandal. And that's a fact. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people need to understand. This
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  Speaker 1: is not just an issue for this administration. Oh, they've
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  Speaker 1: personified it. And they've been horrible custodians of the truth.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And they've played their part
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  Speaker 1: in the cover-up. But the cover-up did not start with
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  Speaker 1: this administration. It's been accelerated. They've had to pull the
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  Speaker 1: umbrella out. But this has been going on for a
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  Speaker 1: very long time. And in the Maria Farmer lawsuit that
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  Speaker 1: we've been going through, they point out that Christopher Wray
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  Speaker 1: had no desire to do anything about this either. And
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  Speaker 1: neither did Merrick Garland or any of the attorney generals
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  Speaker 1: that preceded him. So this is not something that just started.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth is, at this point, there's nothing we
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  Speaker 1: can do about how we got here. All we can
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  Speaker 1: do is make sure that people are held accountable now.
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  Speaker 1: And frankly, folks, if Russell Brand just got found guilty,
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  Speaker 1: then what does that say for anybody that's been accused
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  Speaker 1: by the Epstein survivors, especially over in the UK? Because
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  Speaker 1: if that's the precedent, then it's game on, right? so
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  Speaker 1: I think we might be in for a very interesting year.
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  Speaker 1: The Trump administration, in keeping with its long-running opposition to
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  Speaker 1: Epstein-related revelations, moved to dismiss the lawsuit and lost. In September, U.S.
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  Speaker 1: District Judge David Leibowitz, a Joe Biden appointee, granted a
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  Speaker 1: 90-day window for limited discovery, including on the specific issue
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  Speaker 1: of how FBI rules and protocols concerning child sexual abuse
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  Speaker 1: tips are handled by the Bureau. In early October, the
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  Speaker 1: women moved to subpoena Blanche, asking for any and all
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  Speaker 1: documents pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein, and with a proposed deposition
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  Speaker 1: date for later that same month. And so this is
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  Speaker 1: the ruling that has to do with the subpoena we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about. Just to be clear, the one that
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  Speaker 1: was trying to be quashed, well, Todd Blanche got his wish,
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  Speaker 1: and it was partially quashed. The DOJ, in response, called
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  Speaker 1: the subpoena extraordinary. and move to quash on the grounds
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  Speaker 1: it would threaten the separation of powers, show agency decision-making,
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  Speaker 1: discourage public service, and create potential for abuse or harassment. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: they know all about that. They've been abusing and harassing
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  Speaker 1: the American people for how long now? They'll go after
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  Speaker 1: somebody for a post on the internet, but when they're
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  Speaker 1: found out to be a disgusting fuck inside the Epstein files, ah,
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  Speaker 1: no big deal. What are you talking about? We can't
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  Speaker 1: do anything about that. The government also requested a protective
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  Speaker 1: order barring Blanche from providing the testimony in question. Now U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Magistrate Judge Ryan M. McCabe, who was assigned by Leibowitz,
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  Speaker 1: has ruled in the DOJ's favor. Well, isn't that nice?
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  Speaker 1: Hell of a guy, that Ryan M. McCabe. The court
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  Speaker 1: began its analysis by noting that in the strictest sense
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  Speaker 1: of the federal rules of civil procedure, the motion to
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  Speaker 1: quash cannot be granted unless because the judge himself is
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  Speaker 1: sitting in Southern Florida, while the subpoena has to do
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  Speaker 1: with the jurisdiction of New York. Loopholes and technicalities. It's
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  Speaker 1: really what it comes down to. It's never on the merits, right?
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  Speaker 1: These motherfuckers can never win on the merits. It's always
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  Speaker 1: about loopholes and technicalities and playing games. A federal court
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  Speaker 1: in Florida cannot quash a subpoena that calls for compliance
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  Speaker 1: to take place in New York. But ruling on the
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  Speaker 1: motion to quash is essentially a formality. The real outcome
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  Speaker 1: was decided when the court granted the protective order and
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  Speaker 1: identified two reasons to side with the government. The court
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  Speaker 1: finds that the government has shown good cause for entry
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  Speaker 1: of a protective order. The judge writes, First, plaintiff's deuces
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  Speaker 1: tecum request for any and all documents pertaining to Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein goes far beyond the limited jurisdictional discovery permitted by
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  Speaker 1: the district judge. Guess what? The Epstein Files Transparency Act
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  Speaker 1: Part 2 It's going to nip a lot of this
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  Speaker 1: in the bud because there's going to be teeth and
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  Speaker 1: there's mechanisms within the bill that's going to force the
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  Speaker 1: Department of Justice to play ball. So that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the bills that I'm very interested and excited to see
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  Speaker 1: pass and they better get to it right away. The
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  Speaker 1: judge goes on to note that Leibowitz previously cabined discovery
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  Speaker 1: on the two discreet issues of FBI rules and and
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  Speaker 1: protocols related to child abuse mentioned above, as well as
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  Speaker 1: the exhaustion of administrative remedies by the Jane Does. The
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  Speaker 1: Deuces Techum request goes far afield of these topics, McCabe
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  Speaker 1: goes on. The court also sided with the government based
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  Speaker 1: on the Apex Doctrine. This separation of power-based doctrine is
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  Speaker 1: intended to protect high-ranking government officials from judicial subpoenas for
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  Speaker 1: testimony except in rare circumstances. That's a stupid fucking law.
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  Speaker 1: That should be done away with. Look, these people are
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  Speaker 1: not above the law. And they need to answer to
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  Speaker 1: the American people for the shit they do. And anybody
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  Speaker 1: who is crying about oversight should just shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 1: Go listen to Dan Bongino. Go read some cat turd posts.
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  Speaker 1: Go live in your echo chamber. Because the rest of us,
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  Speaker 1: we're tired of the bullshit and it's time for some
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  Speaker 1: fucking oversight. To overcome the Apex Doctrine... The records must
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  Speaker 1: show extraordinary circumstances or special needs for compelling the appearance
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  Speaker 1: of a high-ranking officer in a judicial proceeding. The judge continues,
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  Speaker 1: Of significance here, the doctrine cannot be overcome where a
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  Speaker 1: claimant can obtain the desired testimony or information from alternative sources.
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  Speaker 1: That is, the court simply does not think Blanche is
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  Speaker 1: the best or only source of the requested information. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's probably true. But isn't he the guy? Shouldn't the
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  Speaker 1: buck stop with him? Was he going to send one
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  Speaker 1: of his little bureaucrats to take the fall? Nobody's buying
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  Speaker 1: that anymore, and the court better understand that. Here, plaintiffs
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  Speaker 1: are still in the midst of the limited jurisdictional discovery
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  Speaker 1: allowed by the district judge. the court explains. They have
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  Speaker 1: not received responses to their written discovery, nor have they
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  Speaker 1: deposed the government's Rule 30b-6 witnesses. The court has taken
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  Speaker 1: the steps to expedite the outstanding discovery and will continue
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  Speaker 1: to do so to ensure plaintiffs get the discovery that
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  Speaker 1: they're due. To that end, McCabe's order is a win
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  Speaker 1: for the government, but not a complete one. The judge
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  Speaker 1: also notes that Blanche, during a July meeting with several
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  Speaker 1: Epstein victims, including many of the plaintiffs, purportedly said you
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  Speaker 1: got screwed over by the FBI, but I cannot fix
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  Speaker 1: the FBI's lack of investigation. Well, no, but guess what?
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  Speaker 1: They can sue the fuck out of him. Just take
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  Speaker 1: a look at Larry Nassar, okay? That's the blueprint. That
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  Speaker 1: scumbag was allowed to do what he did for how long?
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  Speaker 1: And that's not even a fraction of the interference we
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  Speaker 1: saw from the DOJ and other people in power when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to Epstein. And I think people still miss
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  Speaker 1: the point. That's one of the biggest problems. The way
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  Speaker 1: this son of a bitch was able to wield his
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  Speaker 1: influence and connections into that protection. And that protection could
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  Speaker 1: have only come from people within the government. This is
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  Speaker 1: not really that difficult of an issue, right? You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to be a forensic fucking investigator to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what happened here. Because of that comment, Blanche must answer
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  Speaker 1: some questions, but he'll be allowed to do so in writing.
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  Speaker 1: In the court's view, these comments implicate matters potentially within
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  Speaker 1: the scope of limited jurisdictional discovery allowed by the district judge.
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  Speaker 1: The order goes on. As such, the court will allow
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  Speaker 1: plaintiffs to propound up to 10 interrogatories pursuant to Rule
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  Speaker 1: 33 to be answered by Attorney General Blanche in his
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  Speaker 1: official capacity as an employee of the United States. The
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  Speaker 1: scope of those questions must be limited to comments allegedly
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  Speaker 1: made by Attorney General Blanche during the meeting. The order notes,
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  Speaker 1: the government will have 15 business days to answer the
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  Speaker 1: interrogatories that the court ruled. Alright, so that's where we're
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  Speaker 1: at as far as the lawsuit filed by the survivors
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  Speaker 1: against the government and Todd Blanche. And we'll get the
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  Speaker 1: actual order added to the catalog as well. That way
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  Speaker 1: everybody can see that for themselves. But as far as
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  Speaker 1: this one goes, that's going to do it. All the
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  Speaker 1: the description box.