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S1E2 - ‘American Gothic' · Dished at Birth

• 0:00
  Kara: How was the Ren Faire?
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  Dani: The Ren faire was awesome.
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  Yeah, it was really fucking awesome.
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  I love dressing up.
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  Kara: Didn't they have people sign in there?
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  Dani: Yes.
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  So they had I wish I had talked to them more.
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  But it was the children's area and they sort of siphon it off to the side.
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  So it's like real chill over there.
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  It was like sensory heaven, very calm and quiet.
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  That's nice.
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  But also lots and lots of children and so I didn't wanna like barge my way to the
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  front of the group to talk to the fairies.
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  Kara: I can sign.
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  Dani: But there were some children doing that, which I thought was really sweet.
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  , I was about four meads deep at this point.
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  Delicious.
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  But during the show, we went to the Children's Nighting ceremony.
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  So that Paolo could be knighted.
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  Kara: Of course.
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  Yeah.
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  Dani: And at the show they brought out a fairy to do like
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  a signing portion of the story.
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  They were telling,
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  Kara: what were they saying?
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  Dani: He was like signing the story of like, it was like a loosely based
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  Midsummer Night's dream situation.
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  And there was just a portion of it that he came up and signed and someone was
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  Reading the story along with him signing, but he didn't do the whole story.
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  Interesting.
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  Yeah, I was really intrigued by that.
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  I wonder if I can learn more.
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  There's a lot of New York Renaissance fair lore.
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  Okay.
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  So I feel like it might be accessible to me.
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  Kara: I'm seeing the show at Playwrights Horizon next month.
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  I'm seeing that Jen Tullock show.
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  She was in Severance she plays the sister and she Oh, she's doing a one woman show.
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  I love her.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, nothing can take you from the hand of God.
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  They had one ASL interpreter performance at Playwrights Horizon for Nothing
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  Can Take you from the Hand of God.
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  Upcoming things.
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  Very exciting.
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  Oh, another thing I wanted to say was, so you know I booked my trip for Ireland.
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  Dani: Yes.
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  Kara: Yeah.
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  So I'm going over the holidays with my wife and we're gonna
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  be staying with loved ones and.
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  There's a Deaf village in Dublin.
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  It's called Deaf Village, and it's like a state of the art community center.
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  It has everything.
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  Whoa.
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  All of Ireland's accessibility and Deaf organizations operate out of the center.
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  It has a pool, it has a bowling team.
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  They got a theater, that fucking rocks.
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  Right.
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  Dani: So how I know British sign language is quite different.
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  Kara: I bet it's gonna be pretty similar Irish sign.
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  It's probably gonna be.
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  Is it gonna be similar to British, right, because of colonization?
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  Well, yeah, I
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  guess I wonder, I don't know.
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  Actually.
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  I did a very quick Google search and it's pretty similar apparently
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  to French sign language and to BSL.
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  Dani: Okay, well you'll have to go and report back.
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  Kara: I will.
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  And apparently also there's a lot of gender differences in the dialect because
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  know it's very Catholic and a lot of the schools was separated by gender.
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  Dani: Oh wow.
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  That's really interesting.
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  Kara: Yeah.
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  You know how like there's Black American Sign Language?
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  Yeah.
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  And that's because, you know, we have segregated schools and it's
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  kind of a similar concept in Ireland.
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  Wow.
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  Okay.
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  I hadn't even thought of that.
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  Me neither.
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  Wow.
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  Oh my God.
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  I'm so excited for you to see that.
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  I know.
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  I'm so excited.
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  Anyways, yeah.
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  Should we get to the show?
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  Dani: We should get to the show.
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  Kara: Welcome back to Dished At Birth.
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  Welcome back.
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  We're doing episode two, season one, episode two, titled American Gothic,
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  which came out June 13th, 2011.
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  Thank you.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Thank you.
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  I always have the facts.
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  Do you just wanna get right into it?
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  Yeah.
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  I think
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  Dani: to give a one sentence rundown of this episode.
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  I think there's, you know, these two very different families have moved
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  onto the same property and their differences really come to a head.
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  Kara: Yeah.
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  This is all about the family's differences.
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  Political, religious, everything,
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  Dani: But to start, we open on this.
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  Shot of Daphne waking up in the pool house.
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  And I, my first thought was I loved her shabby chic bed frame
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  that they have her sleeping.
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  Kara: I love your attention to detail.
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  'cause I did not notice that.
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  I just noticed her saying like, hell yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  This is the life.
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  Dani: She, she does look ridiculously happy when she wakes up.
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  Kara: Yeah.
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  She just loses all semblance of her life in East Riverside.
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  Like immediately.
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  Immediately.
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  Dani: And then, oh, we get a shot of her looking out at the pool.
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  Stunning pool.
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  Kara: Beautiful.
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  Dani: We're almost never gonna see anybody swim in that pool.
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  Kara: Very happy to just get to look at that pool.
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  It's a beautiful pool.
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  I would be swimming in that all the time.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's pristine.
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  It's so clean.
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  Dani: Well, it's 'cause they're never using it.
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  I get why Daphne's always like grinning ear to ear in this episode in the house.
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  'cause she is just like, she is made it.
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  Kara: I'm a millionaire now.
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  Dani: Literally probably,
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  Kara: so yeah, she goes down to have breakfast with the Kennishes and
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  I guess no one got the memo yet.
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  'cause everyone is talking over each other and no one is looking at her.
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  This is a Deaf person's nightmare.
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  Dani: Yeah.
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  It was stressing me out watching it.
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  It's extremely stressful.
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  Kara: Have you heard this thing called Dinner Table Syndrome?
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  Dani: No.
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  Explain it to me.
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  Kara: There's a thing in Deaf culture where you know, like a Deaf person
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  is sitting at a table and everyone else is hearing and everyone is
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  speaking and you just have no idea what.
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  What anyone is saying.
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  So you kind of like curl up into your shell.
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  Dani: I had
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  not heard of that.
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  Yeah, but that sounds really awful.
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  DTS Dinner Table Syndrome.
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  So this is a classic example of Dinner Table Syndrome right there.
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  Dani: I think she yeah, conveys that really well.
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  I was stressed out for her.
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  Kara: I was also really stressed because she is not saying, Hey guys,
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  please look at me when you speak.
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  She's just, she's also pretending that she can hear all of this, and I get it.
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  She's 15.
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  These are her like brand new parents.
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  She wants to please them and be the perfect daughter, but like there was a
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  part of me that was like, please speak up.
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  Dani: She just wants to make them happy.
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  I know she like is such a pleaser and it makes me so sad.
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  And also like, I don't know, like Toby makes that comment.
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  Obviously she can't hear him but him saying it's like hanging out with grandpa,
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  I wanted to punch him in the face.
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  Fuck you Toby,
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  that's your sister.
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  Yeah.
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  So that was rough.
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  Didn't Regina in the last episode give Kathryn a rundown of
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  like talk slow, look at her.
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  Look at her.
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  Like you don't have to yell, but like she does need to be able to see you.
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  Kara: Yeah, and I guess Kathryn just like completely forgot and threw all
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  that information out the window and also neglected to tell John Bay and Toby.
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  Dani: I did love, Bay being pouty that.
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  Daphne is eating sugar cereal.
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  Like when she comes to invite them for breakfast.
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  Right?
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  And she's like, yeah, my mom made like popovers and I had never heard of it.
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  And they, Daphne and Regina had a sign for it.
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  They did the sign for cake.
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  Dani: Thank you.
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  I was like, I don't think there's a sign for popover.
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  You would just finger spell that.
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  What people eat popovers.
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  I mean, Daphne says I love popovers so clearly.
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  But part of me was like, maybe she's making this up.
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  Just so she'd be like, absolutely.
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  I do wanna have breakfast with you all.
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  Dani: Yeah, me lying.
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  I love popovers.
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  Oh my God.
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  Yeah.
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  'cause that's
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  Kara: a nice thing you do as a guest,
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  my guess is that's like a scone,
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  Dani: because they did the sign for cake?
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  Kara: We see them in the scene.
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  Mm. They kind of look like kind of like muffins?
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  But like a scone texture.
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  Dani: Okay.
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  I just loved Bay being like, mom made so much food, you get to eat sugar cereal.
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  It's so relatable.
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  I was always really jealous of what my friends could eat at their houses.
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  Kara: Oh no.
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  My parents let me have my sugar cereal, I didn't really eat a lot of it though.
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  I was really into this very niche cereal, which is now discontinued.
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  But it was Kellogg's Product 19, and it was my favorite cereal and my family's
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  favorite cereal in the whole world.
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  And Kellogg, if you read this, I beg of you to bring it back.
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  I beg of you.
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  It was like this cornflake, but it had like a little tang to it.
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  Okay.
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  And I think it was called Product 19, which is not a very fun name,
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  but it had like 19 nutrients, like zinc and potassium and whatever.
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  Dani: Got it.
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  Okay.
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  I did think you were just like, that was the.
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  Like box number, no name.
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  The name of the
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  Kara: cereal is Product 19 and it was a red box and it had
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  giant white, 19 on the box.
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  Well that's why it failed.
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  That's bad marketing.
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  I always had, it was like a health, it was advertised like a healthy cereal
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  and it had like people running kellogg's
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  Dani: bring back product 19.
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  I know.
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  Kara: They discontinued it when I was in high school and my mom bought like
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  20 boxes before we ran out and then I also wrote a letter to Kellogg.
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  Dani: Never heard back.
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  Oh, so this is not your first attempt at reaching out to Kellogg?
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  Kara: Yes.
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  To complain.
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  I reached out when I was like 16.
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  I was like, please.
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  It was my favorite.
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  It was, it had the perfect amount of tang
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  Dani: Kara, 16 is so old to write a letter to Kellogg.
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  I thought you were like eight.
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  Kara: No,
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  Dani: sorry.
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  Kara: It's so good.
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  Oh.
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  Dani: Oh, I love you.
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  Anyway the kids go to school.
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  Emmett arrives to pick up Daphne.
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  I do feel that it is out of character how supportive Regina is of it.
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  Honestly,
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  Kara: I do too.
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  Did Regina do a Google search and realize how dangerous motorcycles
• 10:03
  Dani: are?
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  Yeah, clearly Regina's like the more like.
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  Quote like, cool mom in this episode.
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  That's like a role she kind of plays in this, but it, I'm so anti motorcycle.
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  And so maybe that's part of it too.
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  Yeah.
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  But it is so dangerous.
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  Like I would never, I would let my kids do a lot of stuff.
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  Like I think I'd be pretty hands off.
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  I would not want them riding on a motorcycle.
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  Kara: No.
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  And I think it'd be very reasonable for Regina not to allow that too.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, if she, she could be fun when she wants to be.
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  Dani: Like John and Kathryn immediately Bayng like, whoa,
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  whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa is a lot.
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  But I do understand.
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  'cause I think I would also freak out,
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  Kara: That Bayng said,
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  Dani: when Bay is like, I drink half a beer and I get grounded for a week
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  and Daphne gets to ride off into the sunset on the motorcycle, I was so
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  pissed off because like Bay you got arrested. Daphne's doing something that
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  I feel is dangerous, but it's legal
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  Kara: that is true.
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  She did not get arrested.
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  She has her mother Regina's full permission to do this.
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  Dani: Bay is drawing comparisons where there are none like.
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  I agree.
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  You were trying to get arrested and you got arrested and now you're mad that
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  your parents grounded you for one week.
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  Kara: I know.
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  Dani: I would've grounded her for so much longer.
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  Kara: I know.
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  Oh, I also wanted to point out where when Emmett picks up Daphne,
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  she introduces Emmett to Bay.
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  And I think this is like when the two of them actually meet.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And also we see Bay has a name sign now.
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  Dani: Yes.
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  I caught that.
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  John and Kathryn both also already have name signs.
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  Kara: I would love to see a conversation with Daphne and
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  someone about the name signs.
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  'cause usually for name signs you kind of have to convene
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  with more than one Deaf person.
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  And also the name sign is usually tied to a physical
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  attribute or a personality trait.
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  So for the Bay one, it's just the letter B, and then her hair next to the hair,
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  which that's clearly the physical trait.
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  She has beautiful brown hair.
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  But like Toby, it is just the T on the forehead, which, and
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  the forehead sign is just boy.
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  Yeah.
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  So boy, he's a boy.
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  Dani: His hair kind of sticks up, so I was like, is it like
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  the little way his hair flips?
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  Oh, I didn't catch that.
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  Maybe.
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  But then like
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  John's.
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  Is like JK on his Oh yeah.
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  It's jk.
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  On the chest.
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  On the chest.
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  Which made me think of like a badge.
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  Like it's like the sign for cop.
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  Kara: Almost.
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  Well, my, my sign is Kara on the chest and that's 'cause I have a big heart.
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  So usually anything over the chest, it has something to do with like the heart.
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  Got it.
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  Sometimes.
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  That's really
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  Dani: sweet, Kara Just you saying I have a big heart is really sweet.
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  Kara: It sounds crazy to say that about yourself.
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  Dani: Yeah.
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  But it's true and I love
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  Kara: it.
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  Dani: Oh, thank
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  Kara: you.
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  Sarit we gave that to me.
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  I love that.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Thank you.
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  Sarit.
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  And also the other people who uh, convened and agreed on the name sign.
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  Thank you.
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  Um, shout out to them.
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  What's Kathryn's though?
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  I actually haven't, I think it's just a shaking K. See why?
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  Because I think it's a K.
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  That's it.
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  Dani: That's it.
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  Yeah.
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  They're like, they're so straightforward, I guess.
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  And
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  Kara: Regina is all on the chin.
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  And if you do like an open hand, five on the chin, that just means mom.
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  Yeah.
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  So I think it's just Regina mom.
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  I think
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  Dani: easy is that.
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  Damn.
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  Okay.
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  Kara: To the ASL coach from Switched at Birth, I would love for you
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  guys to explain why you gave the characters name signs they have.
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  Dani: We should reach out.
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  Kara: Yeah,
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  Dani: you will be hearing from us.
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  So I was curious.
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  I used to work as a background doctor in college.
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  But I'm curious if they used all Deaf, uh, background actors
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  for the scenes at Carlton that
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  Kara: question.
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  I do not know.
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  It's entirely possible.
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  I should actually get a, take a closer look at the background actors.
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  They're only on for a second, but
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  Dani: Yeah.
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  Kara: You know, if they're like really bad signers, they could
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  be doing like baseball, water melon, pineapple over and over.
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  Dani: Yeah.
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  When you're a background actor, you sometimes you're on set all day.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And
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  usually you're doing just one scene for that
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  whole day.
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  You have to like fake conversations all day.
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  Kara: Right.
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  Dani: So I guess I'm just curious, like Yeah, I'd love to see what was going
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  on with the background actors on set.
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  I hope they were Deaf people.
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  Like I hope they were hiring Deaf people for that job.
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  Kara: I bet they did.
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  There's so many Deaf people in la
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  Dani: Especially like the sign language coordinator I'm sure could be like
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  Yeah, I have background actors like on Hand Deaf West is out there.
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  Yeah.
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  There's so many Deaf actors in la
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  Kara: Yeah.
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  And also like high schoolers from um California.
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  School for the Deaf and Riverside?
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  Dani: Yes.
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  Oh my God.
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  Shout out to Glee.
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  Kara: Shout out to Glee.
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  Dani: I'm rewatching Glee right now, guys.
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  And I just watched the episode where they're competing against
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  the school for the Deaf, so they bring the kids in to perform.
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  Imagine.
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  And I was immediately panicked 'cause I wanted to make sure that they were
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  actually using Deaf actors and they were, they had brought in the choir from
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  california School for the Deaf Riverside.
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  Kara: True bad.
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  They make many jokes about Deaf people in that show.
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  Dani: They do.
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  I do remember them putting out something, Bayng like, this is Glee.
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  And we make fun of every, literally every single person on the show.
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  That is fair.
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  And it would be like unfair to not make some cracks at whoever,
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  but Yeah, it's a little bit rough.
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  Yeah.
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  But that Imagine scene is beautiful.
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  So that's cool.
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  Kara: Oh God.
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  People love that Imagine scene.
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  Okay.
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  To be fair, I did like it when I saw it.
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  Dani: Anyway
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  Kara: back to Switched at Birth.
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  Dani: Yeah.
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  Back to Switched at Birth,
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  Kara: we're a carton school for the Deaf.
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  And Liam shows up.
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  I don't know why he's not in class and how he can just get on this campus.
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  No security.
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  Dani: My school was outside mostly.
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  Kara: That's So California of you I
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  Dani: know.
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  I'm sorry.
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  And I am trying to think like people probably could have wandered onto campus.
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  We did have security guards, but definitely not as many security
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  guards as there were like sections for people to wander in.
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  It was a different time.
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  Kara: Liam goes to see Daphne because he just broke up with Bay
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  and then fresh out the slammer.
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  He said, let me hit my girl up.
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  He said, no.
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  What Bay drama.
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  Anyways, I got another girl on my mind, immediately goes to carlton
• 16:26
  Dani: 'Cause Bay did not tell him about the whole Bayng Switched at Birth thing.
• 16:29
  Kara: No, she did not say the family lore.
• 16:31
  Dani: Yeah.
• 16:32
  When they break up, she's like, I just have a lot going on right now.
• 16:35
  And he's like, literally, what do you have going on?
• 16:38
  Nothing.
• 16:39
  And she doesn't say anything, which is kind of surprising to me.
• 16:43
  I feel like I would throw that back in my boyfriend's face if I was 16 and he
• 16:47
  was like, you have nothing going on.
• 16:50
  Kara: I'd be like, well actually
• 16:51
  Dani: yeah.
• 16:52
  But Emmett knows that something's wrong immediately
• 16:54
  he says, fuck this hearing guy.
• 16:56
  Kara: He's playing bodyguard.
• 16:58
  Liam says, do you speak English?
• 17:00
  And Emmett's like, do you think I am an idiot?
• 17:03
  God I love him.
• 17:04
  And Liam just go and he's like, oh, right.
• 17:06
  Deaf.
• 17:07
  I'm at a Deaf school.
• 17:07
  And then he signs the name sign for Daphne, which is happy on the chest.
• 17:11
  And then Emmett's like, Ugh,
• 17:12
  Dani: Poor Emmett.
• 17:14
  This must happen to him so often.
• 17:16
  Like it feel like Daphne is not surprised when Liam follows her to her school.
• 17:21
  Kara: No, she is a stunning girl.
• 17:23
  She's gorgeous.
• 17:24
  I get it.
• 17:25
  He does just show up outta nowhere.
• 17:26
  Dani: He fully shows up outta nowhere.
• 17:28
  I love, he also approaches and as like, I'm not a stalker, I just like, thought
• 17:32
  that I'd be seeing you around school.
• 17:33
  And when I didn't, like
• 17:35
  Kara: how did he know?
• 17:35
  Issue one, I guess issue Deaf.
• 17:37
  There's only one Deaf
• 17:38
  Dani: school.
• 17:39
  He literally says it.
• 17:39
  He goes no offense, but like there's only one Deaf school in the area.
• 17:44
  Kara: Yeah.
• 17:44
  Poor Emmett is brooding so mad.
• 17:47
  Staring at the fountain angrily, staring at them angrily.
• 17:50
  Dani: Also Emmett's like, she says like.
• 17:53
  Not all hearing guys are assholes.
• 17:55
  And he's like, okay, rich ones that are on the football team at Buckner
• 17:58
  that show up in their Letterman jacket, probably an asshole.
• 18:02
  Kara: And you know what?
• 18:02
  He's gonna be right.
• 18:03
  Anyways, yeah, we are back at home now at the Kennish Mansion.
• 18:07
  Dani: Yeah.
• 18:08
  And Bay is complaining about her grounding again.
• 18:12
  Kara: And she goes to Regina I guess with some moral support.
• 18:15
  Dani: No, I think she's trying to like get Regina to unground her.
• 18:20
  But Regina really lays down the law.
• 18:22
  Kara: Now she is like, so let me get this clear.
• 18:25
  You are stuck at home in your mansion with a swimming pool, tennis courts, your art
• 18:30
  studio, you computer, and nothing to do.
• 18:33
  Dani: She also says.
• 18:34
  If it were me, I would've grounded you for a month.
• 18:37
  Which is way more fair, I think.
• 18:39
  If my kid got arrested.
• 18:40
  Got arrested for something so stupid that she was kind of doing on purpose
• 18:46
  to get arrested for attention.
• 18:48
  Yeah.
• 18:48
  I would be, yeah, I'd be furious.
• 18:51
  Don't fuck around with like cops in the court system.
• 18:54
  That'll ruin your life.
• 18:55
  Kara: That is true.
• 18:56
  Dani: But it won't ruin Bay's life 'cause she's super rich, so it doesn't matter.
• 19:00
  Kara: Yeah.
• 19:01
  It's gonna be expunged from her record.
• 19:02
  Dani: But then Regina is like, okay, come help me paint the guest house.
• 19:07
  Kara: And they, the two of them actually bond.
• 19:09
  Dani: Yeah, they bond.
• 19:10
  Thank God, Regina's finally reaching out.
• 19:12
  That's what she should have been doing from the start.
• 19:14
  And then Daphne ventures into the house to go through the kitchen.
• 19:20
  She's like looking for cooking supplies.
• 19:22
  She's going through the kitchen and then she picks up like a meat cleaver.
• 19:26
  Kara: And then Toby catches her.
• 19:28
  Dani: Toby catches her.
• 19:29
  Sneaks up behind her.
• 19:30
  Sneaks up behind her.
• 19:31
  Kara: Disclaimer, don't do this to a Deaf person.
• 19:34
  Do not sneak up behind them.
• 19:35
  Especially when they have a very sharp object in their hand.
• 19:38
  You can flick their lights or you can bang really loud so
• 19:43
  they can feel the vibrations.
• 19:44
  Do not sneak up behind them.
• 19:46
  'cause what could have happened and thankfully didn't, is that she could have
• 19:49
  dropped that meat cleaver on her foot.
• 19:51
  Or stabbed him.
• 19:52
  Or stabbed him and thought it was an intruder.
• 19:55
  Dani: And instead Toby says the weirdest thing to her.
• 19:58
  What does he say?
• 19:59
  Okay.
• 19:59
  He
• 20:00
  is like, she says, I'm so sorry.
• 20:03
  I think she says don't tell anybody, which like, girl, you weren't robbing the house.
• 20:08
  You're just like coming in for spices.
• 20:10
  But he's like, don't worry, unless you have some like weird meat cleaver fetish.
• 20:16
  Like if I had a new sibling, the last thing I would do is
• 20:20
  introduce the word fetish.
• 20:22
  Fetish into a conversation.
• 20:24
  Kara: Never.
• 20:25
  Dani: Never.
• 20:26
  Kara: I would never say that word in front of my brother.
• 20:28
  Dani: No, I wouldn't wanna say it in front of anyone I'm blood related to.
• 20:33
  No, that's Toby Gross.
• 20:35
  Do you have a meat cleaver fetish?
• 20:37
  Yeah.
• 20:37
  Why are you bringing that up?
• 20:38
  Obviously she just picked up the knife.
• 20:40
  Maybe she was borrowing it.
• 20:42
  I don't know.
• 20:42
  Relax.
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  Kara: think she was just admiring all the tools in the kitchen.
• 20:46
  Yeah, she was.
• 20:46
  She's fancy.
• 20:47
  Yeah.
• 20:47
  Because then
• 20:48
  Dani: she goes on to say it's her dream kitchen.
• 20:50
  It is.
• 20:51
  And she's baking something.
• 20:53
  That's right.
• 20:53
  She brings a bowl in because then Toby sticks his finger in
• 20:56
  the bowl to taste the batter.
• 20:58
  She's making brownies for the barbecue tonight.
• 21:01
  Brownies.
• 21:02
  Because Katherine asked her to Yes.
• 21:04
  And just like Daphne, We missed that part.
• 21:07
  We missed that part.
• 21:08
  'cause remember, Katherine had to be like so brownies.
• 21:10
  You'll make them after yapping at her.
• 21:12
  'cause Daphne couldn't, wasn't fucking hearing her at the table.
• 21:16
  'cause she was behind her.
• 21:17
  Yeah.
• 21:18
  Okay.
• 21:18
  Mystery solved guys.
• 21:20
  Whew.
• 21:21
  Kara: She's making brownies.
• 21:22
  She just need, I don't know, some nutmeg.
• 21:24
  Dani: Yeah, something random enough that she could sneak into the kitchen.
• 21:28
  John comes in
• 21:28
  they're like playing around.
• 21:29
  Yeah.
• 21:30
  And John goes, is he bothering you?
• 21:32
  Yeah.
• 21:32
  And Daphne says, yeah.
• 21:34
  And he goes, good.
• 21:36
  He's got years to make up for.
• 21:37
  Which is really sweet.
• 21:39
  Kara: Yeah.
• 21:39
  It was a cute reaction.
• 21:40
  Dani: Shows that he was not present for the moment.
• 21:42
  Toby said the word fetish, but like whatever.
• 21:45
  Kara: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Dani: Regina and Bay are still in, in the guest house.
• 21:48
  They're painting, they're talking about alcoholism
• 21:51
  And Frida Kahlo.
• 21:52
  They're connecting.
• 21:53
  They're saying we both had Mexican folk art phases.
• 21:56
  Ah.
• 21:56
  And then they both quote Frida at the same time.
• 21:59
  Kara: Yes.
• 22:00
  Talking about Diego.
• 22:02
  Yes.
• 22:03
  About me and Diego.
• 22:04
  Yeah.
• 22:05
  What mistake he was, which is true.
• 22:07
  We learned that Regina is an alcoholic and she's been sober for years.
• 22:12
  Dani: I get her Bayng like, that's why I would've come down on you so hard
• 22:15
  about the beer because I'm an alcoholic.
• 22:17
  You're an underage kid, you shouldn't be drinking.
• 22:20
  But then for her to be like, and you are gonna be an alcoholic too if you don't
• 22:25
  watch out, is kind of how she says it.
• 22:28
  I, that's a lot to put on your brand new teen, biological daughter, don't you
• 22:33
  Kara: think?
• 22:34
  I do think it's a lot to put on the kid.
• 22:36
  Considering this is the two of thems first conversation together Yeah.
• 22:41
  Between just the two of them.
• 22:43
  Yeah, that is intense.
• 22:45
  Dani: She says, you and I don't have the luxury of just
• 22:48
  having a couple of beers that
• 22:50
  Kara: Sure.
• 22:51
  Dani: Because pretty quickly those few beers are gonna turn into a six pack.
• 22:54
  But I think it's kind of fucked up to be like, yeah, you, you don't have, you
• 22:58
  can't have just like a couple of beers to relax because like, we don't know yet.
• 23:03
  She's 16.
• 23:04
  But also the earlier you start, I think that makes it worse.
• 23:08
  That's a good point.
• 23:09
  I just am like, it's so clear to me that they did was not trying to get drunk.
• 23:13
  She was trying to get arrested,
• 23:15
  Kara: but Regina doesn't know that.
• 23:17
  I think.
• 23:17
  Dani: It just felt a little heavy to me.
• 23:19
  Like Daphne gets a pool.
• 23:21
  And her dream kitchen and Bay gets a lecture.
• 23:25
  A lecture about alcoholism and the understanding that she can't be a casual
• 23:30
  drinker according to her biological
• 23:32
  mother.
• 23:33
  But anyway, then Ty comes in and interrupts with the mail.
• 23:38
  Two,
• 23:39
  pieces of junk
• 23:39
  Kara: mail,
• 23:40
  Dani: I love Ty.
• 23:41
  I think he's so cute.
• 23:43
  I really like Bay and Ty's little relationship.
• 23:46
  I think they have really good chemistry.
• 23:47
  They, have silly little banter.
• 23:49
  Kara: I was blushing.
• 23:50
  Ty is sexy.
• 23:52
  Sure.
• 23:52
  And Regina knows this 'cause she steps out.
• 23:55
  Dani: Yeah.
• 23:55
  I really respected Regina Bayng like, I'm gonna give you some space.
• 23:58
  Yeah.
• 23:59
  That was very cool.
• 24:00
  Mom of her.
• 24:00
  I don't think Very
• 24:01
  Kara: cool mom.
• 24:02
  Dani: I don't think Katherine Kennish would've done that.
• 24:04
  Kara: No.
• 24:04
  She would've been like, who are
• 24:06
  Dani: you?
• 24:06
  Kara: Get out of my house.
• 24:07
  Dani: Yeah.
• 24:08
  And then it's nighttime and John is teaching Daphne how to grill ahead of
• 24:13
  the big barbecue that they're having.
• 24:15
  But he, once again,
• 24:16
  Kara: is not looking at her
• 24:17
  Dani: while he speaks, not looking at her.
• 24:20
  And honestly, I'm really glad that Daphne didn't fully have to read his lips saying.
• 24:25
  Oh, I know you're a vegetarian, but just in case you're ever cooking for a guy,
• 24:30
  Kara: I didn't even pay attention to what he was saying.
• 24:32
  Dani: That pissed me off so much just because as someone who was a vegetarian
• 24:36
  and now still does not eat red meat,
• 24:38
  I would not cook any meat that I don't eat for anyone else personally.
• 24:44
  And I feel like Daphne also doesn't eat meat because she likes animals.
• 24:49
  Kara: Right.
• 24:49
  So
• 24:49
  Dani: she also probably would not do that.
• 24:51
  It was very Republican dad coded, he said, just in case
• 24:54
  you're ever cooking for a man,
• 24:56
  Kara: just in case, um, you're in the kitchen and your husband's off working.
• 24:59
  Dani: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Just in case you're in the kitchen, you know where you belong and your husband's
• 25:02
  at work and yeah, you need to have dinner on the table when he gets home.
• 25:05
  This whole barbecue scene is a straight mess.
• 25:08
  Such a mess.
• 25:09
  And
• 25:09
  it starts with Katherine Bayng like, okay, let's bring up the
• 25:13
  motorcycle thing now to get it out of the way before dinner to Regina.
• 25:16
  Crazy.
• 25:17
  Why would you do that?
• 25:19
  That's a very big conversation.
• 25:20
  So they basically ambush Regina as she's like leaving the guest house love the
• 25:25
  way Katherine fakes it to be like, oh, I actually, I have time in the mornings.
• 25:29
  I would love to drop Daphne off at school on my way Pilates, and
• 25:32
  Regina says she rides with Emmett.
• 25:35
  Which everyone knows.
• 25:36
  Everyone saw him pull up this morning, it was already a big to-do.
• 25:39
  And then they get into this whole spat and Is it Katherine that's like, he's Deaf.
• 25:45
  He's Deaf, and then Regina's like, and which is so frustrating.
• 25:50
  I understand why they're saying it, like it makes sense for their characters.
• 25:54
  I would've led with he's a 16-year-old boy.
• 25:57
  He's a 16-year-old boy.
• 25:59
  Kara: What Katherine really should have done is pull up like a bar graph of like,
• 26:03
  motorcycle casualties and fatalities and
• 26:06
  Dani: maybe categorize it by age,
• 26:08
  But instead they do totally be like, he's Deaf.
• 26:12
  What if something happens again?
• 26:15
  Just take out the he's
• 26:16
  Kara: Deaf part.
• 26:16
  What if something happens?
• 26:18
  What if something happened to our daughter who we just met and we love so
• 26:22
  much and we are so afraid of losing her.
• 26:25
  Dani: But they really blow it by making it about him Bayng Deaf.
• 26:28
  Kara: Yeah.
• 26:29
  But they get interrupted
• 26:30
  Dani: because it's dinner time.
• 26:31
  Daphne, like from mid fight, from across the barbecue announces it's dinner time.
• 26:37
  Kara: I think she saw their body language.
• 26:39
  I was gonna say she did not hear what they were saying.
• 26:42
  No.
• 26:42
  She saw their body language and the angry faces and was like, time to stop this.
• 26:48
  Dani: That's also how I felt.
• 26:49
  The way she said it, i'm like, girl, there's no way you
• 26:52
  weren't catching those vibes.
• 26:54
  Because yeah, John in that argument was really triggering me.
• 26:58
  Well first he's so dismissive.
• 27:01
  He's so like, that's not what we're saying.
• 27:03
  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 27:04
  Everybody just calmed down.
• 27:06
  Kara: Oh my God.
• 27:06
  I was
• 27:06
  Dani: getting riled up.
• 27:08
  I know.
• 27:08
  Kara: They infuriate me in this episode.
• 27:11
  Anyways, this dinner time and apparently the Kennishes are Christian, yeah.
• 27:16
  Dani: It was like a jump scare when they were like, and now we'll say Grace.
• 27:19
  I was like, you're never gonna do this again.
• 27:21
  Kara: You never, ever say Grace again.
• 27:22
  Dani: Regina Bayng like, we're atheists and Daphne Bayng like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 27:27
  I'm agnostic.
• 27:28
  So funny.
• 27:30
  Kara: She said, I can speak for myself mom.
• 27:32
  Dani: She really does not like Regina using a royal wee in any situation.
• 27:37
  Kara: And I think that's fair.
• 27:38
  But also maybe she is actually atheist and she's trying to people please
• 27:41
  and be like God could be there.
• 27:44
  Maybe I'll say Grace.
• 27:45
  Dani: Her asking them to lead the grace.
• 27:49
  It's very pick me daughter.
• 27:50
  She's very like, I have to be perfect.
• 27:53
  Kara: But one thing that really made me mad was Regina says, we don't
• 27:57
  thank God for a salmon and asparagus.
• 28:00
  This family invited you for a dinner.
• 28:03
  Dani: Yeah.
• 28:04
  It's, she's Bayng kind of a dick.
• 28:06
  Kara: That was mean.
• 28:07
  Dani: It was mean.
• 28:08
  Kara: You can be atheist, but be nice about it.
• 28:11
  Dani: I'm an atheist.
• 28:12
  I have politely held hands.
• 28:14
  Yeah.
• 28:14
  And silently let the people around me say grace, when it's not my house
• 28:19
  and it's not my dinner plenty times.
• 28:21
  'cause
• 28:21
  Kara: I am a guest in their house and they cooked for me.
• 28:24
  And if that's what they wanna do is say Grace for five seconds.
• 28:29
  By all means.
• 28:30
  It's a very nice thing to do.
• 28:31
  Dani: Daphne's Little Grace is very cute.
• 28:33
  It's very giving.
• 28:34
  Like me at Thanksgiving, like I'm thankful for my family,
• 28:38
  Kara: my family, my parents and my food or something.
• 28:40
  Dani: Yeah.
• 28:40
  It's basically that, but it's sweet.
• 28:43
  Kara: Okay.
• 28:43
  Yeah.
• 28:44
  Grace is done.
• 28:44
  and
• 28:44
  Dani: Then all hell breaks loose
• 28:47
  Kara: because Katherine fully ignoring Regina's request and wishes is like, what
• 28:54
  if I drove you to school every morning?
• 28:56
  Dani: Yeah.
• 28:56
  It's really awkward.
• 28:57
  It's also shitty.
• 28:58
  Like it's so guilt trippy.
• 29:00
  It is.
• 29:02
  And Regina says, no, no, no.
• 29:04
  None of that fake cool mom shit.
• 29:06
  Kara: Right?
• 29:06
  I am the
• 29:07
  Dani: cool mom in this house.
• 29:08
  Kara: You're doing this because you hate Deaf people basically.
• 29:11
  Dani: And then, yeah, Regina has a meltdown that just like, it explodes.
• 29:16
  And
• 29:16
  Kara: Adriana Grandma is at the table.
• 29:18
  Poor Adriana.
• 29:19
  She was invisible again.
• 29:20
  But Adriana and Daphne are begging her to stop.
• 29:23
  Dani: I like that they don't caption Daphne's signs to Regina and Daphne
• 29:28
  keeps going please stop this.
• 29:29
  They don't caption it, which I thought was an interesting choice.
• 29:32
  Kara: Yeah, I did notice that.
• 29:34
  'cause Daphne is signing to Regina, but there's no captions.
• 29:37
  It's basically like, please stop.
• 29:39
  And then.
• 29:40
  I guess it's to, to frame the perspective from like Bay and the other Kennishes,
• 29:44
  'cause they're like, what's going on?
• 29:46
  What are they saying?
• 29:47
  Are they Yeah.
• 29:48
  Dani: Regina starts signing back at Daphne, right?
• 29:50
  And Katherine goes, what?
• 29:52
  What is she saying?
• 29:53
  to Daphne.
• 29:54
  Which feels fucked up.
• 29:56
  To have it out in front of the kids is putting the kids
• 29:59
  in such an awkward position.
• 30:00
  Kara: Yeah.
• 30:00
  I'm mad at all the parents.
• 30:02
  Dani: Everyone sucks in this situation.
• 30:04
  Kara: I don't remember how this came up, but she was like, I'm letting
• 30:07
  her ride a motorcycle to school.
• 30:09
  I'm not handing her a gun.
• 30:11
  Dani: And John says, well, that would be a lot safer.
• 30:14
  What?
• 30:16
  Kara: I don't know about the statistics.
• 30:17
  I think both are very not safe.
• 30:19
  Dani: I think both are very, not safe, maybe for different reasons, but to
• 30:23
  be like a gun would be safer than her riding on his motorcycle to school
• 30:28
  Kara: and he doesn't care about the motorcycle.
• 30:30
  He cares that Emmett is Deaf, I think.
• 30:32
  Dani: Do you?
• 30:33
  I think they really just like don't know where to direct their anxiety.
• 30:38
  Kara: Yeah.
• 30:38
  I think this is their way of coping with trying to catch up for 15
• 30:44
  years of missing raising Daphne.
• 30:46
  Dani: And then Regina says, don't tell me there's guns in this house.
• 30:49
  Kara: Yeah.
• 30:50
  They're Republican.
• 30:50
  They have guns in the house, and he invokes the Second Amendment
• 30:54
  and he says, yep, that is my right under the second amendment.
• 30:58
  Dani: Regina basically flees the scene at that point.
• 31:02
  Very Bay coded of her.
• 31:04
  Yeah.
• 31:04
  And Daphne comes upstairs and they have it out in Simcom.
• 31:08
  In Simcom.
• 31:10
  They're both really angry.
• 31:11
  Pick one language.
• 31:13
  It's so hard to do.
• 31:14
  Two,
• 31:15
  Kara: it's so much work to do.
• 31:17
  Simcom.
• 31:17
  Plus you're prioritizing English when you do simcom.
• 31:20
  It drives me crazy, but Daphne is like Mom, what is your problem?
• 31:25
  This is a hard situation for everyone.
• 31:27
  Why can't you make the best of it?
• 31:29
  Dani: Yeah, I feel like it's fucked up for Regina to be like they told me they
• 31:33
  don't think Deaf people should drive.
• 31:35
  Kara: That is not her thing to tell.
• 31:37
  It also isn't what they said.
• 31:38
  That is not what they said at all.
• 31:40
  Dani: That's not what they fucking said.
• 31:42
  And Daphne doesn't believe her
• 31:43
  and she's right not to believe her.
• 31:45
  She's clearly just trying to hurt Daphne.
• 31:47
  Kara: It's so mean.
• 31:48
  Even if John and Katherine did say like, oh, Deaf people can't drive.
• 31:52
  I think it's Regina's job as the mom to then educate them and, and go,
• 31:57
  in fact, many Deaf people can drive.
• 32:01
  Not like throw this insult onto her daughter.
• 32:05
  Dani: Man.
• 32:06
  If the kenne are that worried about Deaf people driving,
• 32:09
  they would hate the future.
• 32:11
  'cause my Uber drivers are fully watching YouTube videos, headphones
• 32:15
  on in the car, scrolling ears.
• 32:18
  Not on the road, nor eyes on the road.
• 32:21
  I know.
• 32:22
  So like.
• 32:23
  I don't know, man.
• 32:24
  Daphne flees.
• 32:25
  And then Bay is having a similar fight with her mother.
• 32:30
  Bay flees too.
• 32:31
  Everyone's fleeing.
• 32:32
  Everyone has fled the scene of the big barbecue fight.
• 32:36
  Kara: Yeah.
• 32:37
  Where does Stephanie go?
• 32:38
  She goes on a date.
• 32:39
  I guess she had a date after this dinner.
• 32:40
  Dani: It's also a Thursday, so like date on a school night?
• 32:43
  Ooh, LA la
• 32:45
  Kara: Regina's a cool mom.
• 32:46
  Dani: Regina is a cool mom
• 32:48
  so she said, yeah, my whole reunion with my bio family is only
• 32:52
  really gonna last until like nine.
• 32:54
  Kara: No, I bet.
• 32:55
  dinner started earlier let's say six.
• 32:57
  Six to eight.
• 32:58
  But also I think dinner ended early
• 33:00
  Dani: if dinner started
• 33:00
  at six, dinner was over at 6 0 5.
• 33:02
  6
• 33:02
  Kara: 6, 6 0 5.
• 33:04
  Dani: Nobody is eating that food.
• 33:06
  Kara: Definitely is on their date with Liam.
• 33:08
  Dani: Yeah.
• 33:08
  Kara: They are at the record store this is a cute little scene because
• 33:13
  they're talking about, um, music taste and Liam mention Neon Trees very of the
• 33:18
  time, very 2011 to mention Neon Trees.
• 33:21
  I, and she goes, you want my knees on cheese?
• 33:24
  Dani: He asked her if she ever eavesdrops on people.
• 33:27
  Kara: Oh, and what'd she
• 33:28
  Dani: say?
• 33:29
  She's like, you're really not getting it, are you?
• 33:32
  And then takes him upstairs and puts the headphones on him and does
• 33:37
  Kara: a little
• 33:37
  Dani: lip reading game,
• 33:38
  Kara: which I go All correct.
• 33:40
  Dani: But here's the thing is he asks like, do you ever like
• 33:42
  spy on people with this skill?
• 33:45
  Which I feel like is a fair question.
• 33:47
  Kara: And she says, you're not really getting it.
• 33:49
  Why would he?
• 33:50
  Dani: But she also doesn't answer him.
• 33:52
  I'm like, I don't know.
• 33:53
  Kara, do you ever spy
• 33:54
  Kara: on people in public it?
• 33:55
  Okay, so my answer is it depends on the person.
• 33:57
  Sure.
• 33:58
  Some people enunciate really well and some people don't.
• 34:01
  And for some people the more I get to know them, the better I will be lip reading.
• 34:07
  So like my wife when I first met her, she's not American, so she
• 34:10
  was really hard to lip read at first when my implants were off.
• 34:15
  But now since we have been together for a bit then I'm very good with
• 34:19
  reading her and it just takes some time and getting used to, um,
• 34:22
  Dani: which is kind of exactly what Daphne says to Liam.
• 34:26
  Yeah.
• 34:26
  She says, when we hang out more I'll get to know your lips.
• 34:31
  Kara: Which
• 34:31
  Dani: is really hot.
• 34:33
  Kara: That is kind of hot.
• 34:33
  That's
• 34:34
  Dani: hot.
• 34:34
  Kara: Okay.
• 34:35
  Daphne.
• 34:36
  Yeah, some people can really do it.
• 34:38
  I can do it decently.
• 34:39
  Well, it really depends on the person.
• 34:42
  Dani: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Kara: It'd be really interesting to see when I go to Ireland,
• 34:46
  'cause they speak English.
• 34:48
  Certainly differently,
• 34:49
  Dani: dude.
• 34:49
  I can hear and I have a hard time, so I had to watch Derry
• 34:54
  Girls with the captions on.
• 34:56
  I love
• 34:56
  Kara: Derry Girls.
• 34:57
  Okay, so see, maybe you'll be fine.
• 34:59
  No, I cannot understand them,
• 35:01
  oh.
• 35:01
  Yeah.
• 35:01
  We're still on the day with Daphne and Liam and um, Liam's friends show
• 35:05
  up and they notice Daphne's hearing aids and they go, what are those?!
• 35:08
  And then they start mocking Deaf people and it's a really painful, awful scene.
• 35:14
  It's really bad to watch.
• 35:15
  Yeah, I don't wanna get super into like what they say, but they're
• 35:18
  mocking Deaf people and they're not being nice about it and they're.
• 35:21
  Not being funny and Liam is not sticking up for Daphne at all.
• 35:26
  Dani: He's doing that boy thing where he's like, guys cut it out.
• 35:29
  Not cool, but like punch one of them in the face, shove them.
• 35:33
  Yeah.
• 35:34
  I want you to get a little violent in this moment.
• 35:37
  Kara: Daphne also doesn't say anything.
• 35:39
  Dani: No, but she does get her own revenge when they say what's
• 35:43
  the sign for doing the nasty?
• 35:45
  So I can get it on with a Deaf girl too?
• 35:47
  And she teaches them I'm a douche bag.
• 35:49
  What is that actually?
• 35:51
  Kara: Okay.
• 35:51
  I have been Googling.
• 35:53
  I do not know what that sign is.
• 35:54
  Okay.
• 35:55
  I have never seen the sign for douche bag.
• 35:57
  And whenever it's been mentioned in sign, they finger spell it.
• 36:00
  I don't know what that sign is.
• 36:02
  The captions say I am a douche bag.
• 36:04
  But usually when you say I am, you point to yourself and she doesn't sign that.
• 36:09
  I think my gripe with that particular scene is that so many hearing
• 36:13
  people wanna know dirty signs, and I think Switched at Birth kind of
• 36:18
  displayed that out there for everyone.
• 36:20
  So I remember in middle school, everyone was signing that the
• 36:23
  douche bag sign because they were like, oh my God, that's a silly,
• 36:26
  funny, dirty word I learned in sign.
• 36:28
  And no one else knows what it means.
• 36:31
  Yeah.
• 36:32
  And I don't know, I think if it were me, I would've been like,
• 36:35
  I'm not gonna teach you a sign.
• 36:37
  Dani: Yeah fuck Liam's friends.
• 36:39
  It also reminded me when they were like, you do that like something
• 36:43
  shit, like they, they don't call it sign, but they like wave their hands.
• 36:46
  They're the
• 36:46
  Kara: weird thing with your hands.
• 36:48
  Dani: It reminded me of when we were at the Samia show and I was trying to get
• 36:51
  the bouncer to guide us through the crowd.
• 36:55
  To the accessible area for the interpreter.
• 36:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 36:58
  And I was like the ASL interpreter, nothing.
• 37:01
  What's ASL?
• 37:02
  The sign language interpreter.
• 37:05
  Nothing.
• 37:06
  And I was like, my friend is Deaf and we need to go to the accessible area.
• 37:11
  And he goes, oh.
• 37:12
  And starts like waving his hands around like that.
• 37:15
  Kara: And you say, right, the thing you do with your hands Yeah.
• 37:17
  That Deaf people do.
• 37:18
  Dani: And then he went, yeah, it's over there.
• 37:20
  And did not escort us, so fuck that.
• 37:23
  Bouncer.
• 37:23
  Fuck Liam's friends.
• 37:25
  Kara: Yeah.
• 37:25
  That bouncer at Brooklyn Steel.
• 37:27
  Yeah.
• 37:27
  Not very helpful.
• 37:28
  Sorry to that guy.
• 37:29
  Dani: No, I'm not sorry.
• 37:31
  He was really rude.
• 37:32
  Kara: The thing is also, this is a very realistic thing that can
• 37:35
  and does happen to Deaf people.
• 37:37
  It's not something out of the ordinary.
• 37:40
  Dani: No.
• 37:40
  And like even, I remember at my birthday party when we were signing, one of
• 37:46
  my friends came up and was like, oh my God, are you guys talking in code?
• 37:51
  And I was like, girl.
• 37:52
  One of my very lovely friends just didn't know, just like
• 37:55
  people not really be saying shit.
• 37:57
  Kara: I know they really do, sorry to your friend.
• 38:00
  I was not happy with her.
• 38:01
  Dani: But then if you asked her at a different time, she'd probably be
• 38:03
  like, I'd love to learn sign language.
• 38:05
  Kara: I've always wanted learn.
• 38:06
  Dani: Yeah.
• 38:07
  I've always wanted, wanted to learn sign language.
• 38:09
  Everyone has always wanted to learn.
• 38:11
  Every, every
• 38:11
  Kara: single person has always wanted to learn.
• 38:14
  Dani: Yeah.
• 38:14
  That's a fun fact about sign language.
• 38:17
  Kara: I've always wanted to learn.
• 38:18
  Always.
• 38:19
  Have I signed up?
• 38:19
  No.
• 38:19
  But I've always wanted alone.
• 38:20
  No.
• 38:21
  Have I downloaded an app?
• 38:22
  No.
• 38:22
  No.
• 38:23
  Always wanted to learn.
• 38:24
  Dani: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Um, YouTube is free if you're willing to watch ads, by the way.
• 38:29
  Yeah.
• 38:30
  So just, it's a good resource.
• 38:33
  By Deaf people.
• 38:34
  By Deaf people.
• 38:35
  Kara: Deaf people.
• 38:37
  Dani: Yeah.
• 38:37
  Deaf YouTubers.
• 38:38
  Bay is also out on her own kind of date,
• 38:41
  Kara: yeah.
• 38:41
  She goes to throw another ax girl on the wall.
• 38:45
  Dani: Yeah.
• 38:45
  She wants to do a piece.
• 38:48
  Kara: What if it's Axe throwing that?
• 38:50
  It's just a really bad pun.
• 38:51
  She's axe throwing.
• 38:53
  Dani: Just like me at the ren fair yesterday.
• 38:54
  She's throwing ax is what we were saying a lot.
• 38:57
  And she enlists Ty to help her.
• 39:00
  Kara: And she talks a little bit about, um, how to be a graffiti artist.
• 39:06
  Dani: Yeah.
• 39:07
  Which was another culture I didn't know anything about.
• 39:10
  So that was cool.
• 39:11
  The stuff with like the answering each other's pieces.
• 39:14
  Kara: I oddly know this 'cause I took AP or history in high school.
• 39:18
  Oh, okay.
• 39:19
  Go off.
• 39:20
  And we did a curriculum or like a course on the history of hip hop
• 39:26
  and rap music and also graffiti art.
• 39:29
  So I was like, oh, I already know this Bay.
• 39:31
  And then Ty goes axe girl on that wall why is she mad?
• 39:36
  And then be goes, let's do some family lore.
• 39:39
  Is family lore time.
• 39:40
  She
• 39:40
  Dani: said,
• 39:41
  Kara: I'm gonna trauma dump time to trauma dump.
• 39:44
  And he handles it very well.
• 39:46
  We don't see them share the actual story.
• 39:48
  No.
• 39:48
  Think they cut you it after.
• 39:49
  Dani: But then spoiler alert, they make out.
• 39:51
  So clearly he handles it well.
• 39:53
  Kara: He does handle it well.
• 39:54
  Then he's kind of like, I don't know man.
• 39:56
  You got three parents who love you and, and apparently he has no parents.
• 40:00
  Dani: He's a little bit older too.
• 40:02
  Kara: It's not really, it's, we don't know how old he is.
• 40:05
  He's not
• 40:05
  Dani: in high school anymore.
• 40:06
  I, let's say think he's gonna be like 19.
• 40:08
  So let's say he
• 40:08
  Kara: is 18 or 19 and Bay is 15.
• 40:11
  So Bay is 15
• 40:12
  Dani: right now
• 40:13
  Kara: and he is 19.
• 40:14
  Dani: Actually don't love that age gap, but let's set that aside.
• 40:17
  'cause I do love Ty and I think his intentions are pretty pure of heart.
• 40:22
  I think so.
• 40:23
  Then they put the poster up and they make out.
• 40:27
  Yeah.
• 40:28
  But I love when they're done.
• 40:29
  They both have like perfectly splattered paint on their faces.
• 40:33
  Kara: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Dani: Which how did that get there?
• 40:36
  That doesn't just happen.
• 40:38
  Kara: They got into a little pain fight.
• 40:39
  Dani: Maybe I would've loved to see that scene.
• 40:42
  Kara: That's true.
• 40:42
  Dani: And then Bay is like, wow, you really listened to me.
• 40:45
  And Ty's like, yeah, I like listening to you.
• 40:47
  And then they make out
• 40:48
  Kara: and thank God.
• 40:49
  ' Dani: cause Bay does need someone to just listen to her.
• 40:51
  Kara: And I don't know if Liam would listen to her.
• 40:54
  Dani: Well, she didn't wanna talk to him, is the thing.
• 40:56
  And
• 40:56
  Kara: there must have been a reason why she didn't want to.
• 40:58
  Dani: Yeah, it's 'cause he is a corn ball.
• 41:00
  He is cheesy as hell.
• 41:02
  Yeah.
• 41:02
  I don't like him.
• 41:03
  But Ty is smooth.
• 41:04
  Ty, Ty has good vibes.
• 41:07
  I like Ty.
• 41:07
  I like Ty a lot.
• 41:08
  But yeah, Daphne back on her fail of a date, calls Emmett.
• 41:13
  She's like on the curb.
• 41:14
  Oh, poor Daphne.
• 41:15
  She's like sitting on a curb.
• 41:17
  Emmett pulls up on his motorcycle
• 41:20
  Kara: and then he goes, I
• 41:21
  Dani: told you so she says, you can say, I told you so.
• 41:24
  First in his defense.
• 41:27
  And then Bay and Daphne both get home around the same time and they link up.
• 41:32
  In the driveway slash basketball court area.
• 41:36
  Right.
• 41:36
  Which I just wanna say on the HBO Girls rewatch pod, they talk about how many
• 41:42
  scripts must be set like interior bathtub.
• 41:47
  'cause there's so many bathtub scenes in girls.
• 41:50
  And I feel that the equivalent for this show is exterior driveway.
• 41:55
  Exterior driveway.
• 41:56
  They love an emotional driveway scene.
• 41:58
  Kara: They do?
• 41:59
  Exterior driveway.
• 42:01
  Bay sneaks home also.
• 42:03
  'cause remember she's still Yeah, she's grounded.
• 42:05
  She sees Daphne,
• 42:05
  Dani: whatever.
• 42:06
  Kara: And then she turns to sneak into the living
• 42:08
  Dani: room, but John catches her
• 42:10
  Kara: Yeah.
• 42:11
  Climbing
• 42:11
  Dani: through the window.
• 42:12
  I kind of love that.
• 42:13
  She's just like, well, the front door beeps and I thought you'd be asleep.
• 42:17
  Kara: Yeah.
• 42:17
  Dani: She said, you got me.
• 42:18
  I don't.
• 42:19
  What gonna you lie?
• 42:20
  She does lie though.
• 42:21
  Well, I actually, I wasn't sure.
• 42:23
  She says to John, I wasn't doing anything dangerous or illegal.
• 42:27
  I don't wanna call graffiti dangerous.
• 42:29
  And I don't know, it's not illegal everywhere, but I think
• 42:32
  in Kansas City, I'm pretty sure in Kansas City it's illegal.
• 42:35
  It's illegal.
• 42:36
  And also dangerous in the sense that you just got arrested and you could
• 42:39
  get arrested immediately again.
• 42:41
  Kara: So, yeah, I guess it is dangerous and illegal.
• 42:43
  Dani: So in that sense it is both dangerous and illegal.
• 42:46
  But John doesn't know that.
• 42:47
  And he says, I
• 42:49
  Kara: love you.
• 42:50
  Dani: And he's very nice to Bay.
• 42:52
  Kara: He is very nice to her.
• 42:53
  I think after the shit show, dinner they had, he's like, no more fighting.
• 42:57
  I love you.
• 42:58
  I'm just glad you're home.
• 42:59
  Dani: Yeah.
• 42:59
  He feels bad.
• 43:00
  And then Daphne comes home and Regina apologizes to her.
• 43:05
  They have a nice moment where Daphne says, did the Kennshes really say they
• 43:08
  don't think Deaf people should drive?
• 43:10
  And Regina says, look, honey, before I knew about Deaf people,
• 43:14
  I might've said the same thing.
• 43:16
  Yeah.
• 43:16
  'Cause I didn't know.
• 43:18
  And you need to advocate for yourself.
• 43:20
  Yeah.
• 43:20
  She does say, and it's your job to teach them.
• 43:23
  It's not, I feel that it's maybe more so Regina's job to teach them.
• 43:28
  Kara: Yeah.
• 43:28
  I think it's more so Regina's job because Daphne's still a child.
• 43:32
  She is a child.
• 43:33
  And also, I don't think the ownus should be on the Deaf person to teach.
• 43:37
  Dani: Yeah.
• 43:37
  I think that, there's a lot of heavy lifting Regina could do for Daphne.
• 43:42
  Kara: She's not really doing the heavy lifting.
• 43:44
  Dani: No.
• 43:44
  Regina doesn't like to, she doesn't like to do that.
• 43:47
  Kara: John and Katherine end up talking Katherine wonders, if she was in the wrong
• 43:51
  about trying to have a say about Daphne.
• 43:54
  Dani: Yeah.
• 43:54
  They have a moment where they come to their senses a little and Katherine's
• 43:58
  like, what are our rights really?
• 44:01
  Like Yeah, we're her blood, she also says Regina did a good job.
• 44:05
  Kara: Yes.
• 44:05
  We love her so much.
• 44:06
  'cause she's a great person because Regina raised her to be such a great person.
• 44:09
  Dani: So it is a little silly of them to be like worried suddenly.
• 44:13
  But is Regina such a great person?
• 44:16
  Because then the next day the Kennishes are like, and hey Regina.
• 44:21
  What about this lawsuit?
• 44:22
  Do you wanna join?
• 44:23
  'cause the Kenneshes are building a lawsuit to sue the hospital.
• 44:28
  Yes.
• 44:28
  For switching the babies.
• 44:29
  Kara: And Regina's like, I'm good.
• 44:31
  Dani: Hmm.
• 44:31
  I've given it some thought and I don't want that.
• 44:34
  Would you sue the hospital if this happened to you?
• 44:36
  Yes, I would.
• 44:37
  Me too.
• 44:37
  I also, I believe you should absolutely hold corporations and like
• 44:42
  large conglomerates to account and just because it's a I don't think
• 44:46
  it's like a little Podunk hospital.
• 44:48
  I think it's probably like a venture capitalist owned hospital
• 44:52
  A giant hospital in Kansas City.
• 44:54
  And I don't like that Regina says.
• 44:57
  I'm not the kind of person that sues every time I spill hot coffee on myself.
• 45:01
  Kara: She's directly referencing the McDonald's hot coffee case, which
• 45:04
  also was not a frivolous lawsuit.
• 45:06
  Not a frivolous lawsuit.
• 45:07
  Thank you.
• 45:08
  She had third degree burns on her thighs.
• 45:10
  Dani: And the coffee was like way too hot.
• 45:12
  It was like they had reheated the coffee or something.
• 45:15
  Kara: Justice for that woman.
• 45:16
  Dani: Justice for that woman that it makes me so mad that people reference that
• 45:20
  because also even if it had been that if you wanna sue McDonald's, get your bag.
• 45:27
  It's McDonald's.
• 45:28
  It's McDonald's.
• 45:28
  Fuck McDonald's.
• 45:29
  They have enough money.
• 45:31
  Just like the hospital definitely has liability insurance that will pay out.
• 45:35
  Kara: Also they should know because this was an extremely awful thing
• 45:38
  that happened to two families.
• 45:40
  Dani: Yeah.
• 45:41
  Yeah.
• 45:41
  They should.
• 45:42
  That's what, and Katherine says, we wanna make sure this
• 45:44
  doesn't happen to anyone else.
• 45:45
  Yeah.
• 45:46
  And Regina doesn't believe her it was really weird and it raised some flags
• 45:51
  for me and it raised some flags for the Kennishes who say she needs that money.
• 45:56
  Like she's literally living in the guest house because she
• 46:00
  was having trouble with rent.
• 46:01
  Kara: Why didn't she wanna get millions of dollars?
• 46:03
  Yeah.
• 46:03
  Dani: Obviously something's up.
• 46:05
  Kara: Yeah.
• 46:06
  So, dot dot dot on Regina Yeah.
• 46:08
  Know what her deal is.
• 46:09
  And then also in that scene, Regina much more calm her before
• 46:15
  they talk about the lawsuit.
• 46:16
  Yes.
• 46:16
  It's like, oh, by the way.
• 46:18
  I do let Daphne ride with him, but because I trust him and I follow them for a bit.
• 46:23
  Dani: Yeah.
• 46:23
  She said, Daphne begged for months to get on the bike.
• 46:27
  And then even after I said yes, I secretly followed them in my car to make
• 46:31
  sure he's like actually a good driver,
• 46:33
  Kara: which I think was sweet.
• 46:34
  I think that is sweet, and I probably would do that again.
• 46:37
  He's a 16-year-old boy.
• 46:38
  Dani: Yeah, I would totally do that.
• 46:40
  See if he's speeding or,
• 46:41
  yeah.
• 46:42
  To see if he's speeding.
• 46:43
  To see if he's, I don't think you could even text while on
• 46:47
  a motorcycle, but like, Nope.
• 46:48
  Not just to make sure.
• 46:50
  Kara: Yeah.
• 46:51
  Also in the wrap up scene, Daphne finally speaks up for herself.
• 46:54
  Dani: Yes.
• 46:55
  Daphne comes in and says,
• 46:57
  Kara: she says, Hey.
• 46:58
  John Katherine I know I speak really well, so hearing people tend to forget
• 47:02
  that I am Deaf, but I need you to speak slow and look at me and be patient.
• 47:07
  And then she teaches them their very first sign, which is squirrel.
• 47:11
  Squirrel because Katherine loves squirrels.
• 47:13
  Dani: Yeah.
• 47:14
  ' Kara: cause of Toby, I guess.
• 47:16
  Yeah.
• 47:16
  His hair looked like a squirrel or something when he was a baby.
• 47:19
  It's cute.
• 47:20
  And everyone signs squirrel and they're all happy.
• 47:23
  And then Emmett comes to pick her up.
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  Daphne goes off and Katherine's still like, wait,
• 47:28
  Dani: yeah.
• 47:28
  Katherine cannot let this damn motorcycle thing go.
• 47:32
  She, after Regina's like he's a really good driver, he pulls up and.
• 47:38
  Daphne goes, everyone's okay with this.
• 47:40
  Right?
• 47:41
  And Bay goes, don't ask, just go.
• 47:43
  Which, I'm on Bay's side.
• 47:44
  Yeah.
• 47:44
  Daphne, why are you bringing it up?
• 47:46
  And Katherine goes, no, I'm not okay with it.
• 47:49
  he's
• 47:49
  Kara: already here.
• 47:50
  Dani: I'm really trying to be okay with it.
• 47:52
  But I'm not like,
• 47:53
  Kara: all that progress we just made, gone.
• 47:56
  You're not helping anything.
• 47:57
  Dani: Then Regina lays down the law.
• 47:59
  She says It doesn't matter 'cause you're not her parent.
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  And we moved in not to co-parent, just to get to know each other, which is true.
• 48:07
  Thank God she said something.
• 48:08
  And Katherine's like, okay.
• 48:10
  And John's like, okay.
• 48:12
  And I think that's the end of that.
• 48:13
  That's the end of that.
• 48:14
  , And then Regina's like, and also, I'm not gonna join your lawsuit.
• 48:18
  Yeah.
• 48:19
  So that's a mess.
• 48:22
  Kara: That's the end of the episode, I
• 48:23
  Dani: think.
• 48:23
  Yeah.
• 48:23
  That's where the episode ends.
• 48:25
  Kara: We've really learned about the differences between the and
• 48:28
  the parenting styles for sure.
• 48:30
  Dani: I know Regina at one point comments at the dinner when she's
• 48:33
  melting down, she says, I don't get a say in any of the parenting stuff.
• 48:38
  Kara: Like Bay being grounded for a week when she got arrested.
• 48:41
  Dani: These kids have so many toys.
• 48:43
  That's true.
• 48:43
  They have so much stuff.
• 48:45
  So true.
• 48:46
  One point she brings up when they're like, Emmett's 16, she's like,
• 48:51
  you bought your son a $30,000 car.
• 48:55
  Great point.
• 48:56
  I always agree with what she's saying, but I never agree with How is she saying it?
• 49:01
  Or the way she goes about, she's like throwing it in their faces
• 49:05
  Kara: it's not helpful to anyone.
• 49:07
  Dani: No.
• 49:07
  And she's just not doing herself any favors.
• 49:09
  Earlier in the episode, Katherine comes in to probably, I don't know,
• 49:14
  complain about the motorcycle more and walks in and Regina is fully scraping
• 49:19
  the wallpaper off of the walls.
• 49:22
  And then later on when she asked Bay to paint, they are painting the walls black.
• 49:27
  It's purple.
• 49:28
  Is it purple?
• 49:29
  It looks blacky.
• 49:29
  It's eggplant purple.
• 49:31
  Okay.
• 49:31
  You are right because then Ty makes that joke and calls her an eggplant.
• 49:35
  Kara: Yeah.
• 49:35
  Dani: Somethings up with your tv.
• 49:37
  I guess I'm more Katherine Kennish style of decor, so I don't wanna, you know, I'm
• 49:42
  biased, but like the guest house is cute.
• 49:46
  Sure.
• 49:46
  There are a lot of squirrels that maybe you wanna get rid of also.
• 49:49
  Couldn't you have asked?
• 49:51
  Yeah I think Katherine Offhandedly says something when they're
• 49:54
  moving in, like, make yourself at home, do whatever you want.
• 49:57
  But it feels insane to me on day one of living in a beautiful guest house
• 50:03
  rent free to be like, I'm going to scrape the nice wallpaper
• 50:09
  right
• 50:09
  off the walls and then paint the exposed walls underneath like a dark,
• 50:15
  a really dark, heavy, bold color.
• 50:17
  I don't know, like, it feels intentional.
• 50:19
  Kara: Kind of like.
• 50:20
  Poking the bear.
• 50:22
  Yeah.
• 50:23
  Also, did they ever talk about how long the Regina was gonna be there?
• 50:26
  Dani: No.
• 50:27
  There's like no.
• 50:28
  Yeah, nothing.
• 50:29
  They just say, make yourself at home.
• 50:31
  I have lived in this apartment three years and I have not painted the walls.
• 50:36
  Because I would want to ask my landlord so that I don't get sued.
• 50:41
  But also because it's a lot of work.
• 50:43
  I know she's an artist, so she wants to make her space her own, but it
• 50:47
  feels really insane to day one be there with a wallpaper scraper.
• 50:51
  Kara: I know you could have done that without scraping the wallpaper off.
• 50:54
  Yeah.
• 50:54
  Which I thought was kind of cute.
• 50:55
  And, kind of country chic.
• 50:57
  Dani: Yeah.
• 50:57
  Cottage core.
• 50:58
  The whole, the whole guest house is like shabby chic cottage.
• 51:02
  Kara: Yeah.
• 51:03
  Dani: And Regina's like, let me.
• 51:05
  Get some eggplant on these walls.
• 51:07
  Fuck these squirrels.
• 51:08
  Yeah.
• 51:09
  Fuck the squirrels.
• 51:09
  She hates the squirrels.
• 51:11
  Yeah.
• 51:12
  I'm not on anyone's, none of the parents are behaving well this episode.
• 51:16
  I
• 51:16
  Kara: know.
• 51:18
  Dani: And I think Katherine probably will get worse and Regina maybe gets a little
• 51:21
  bit better, but right now, I don't know.
• 51:26
  Kara: And everyone's being so awful about Deaf people, but
• 51:29
  that also will get better.
• 51:31
  Dani: Yeah.
• 51:31
  I can't wait for Toby to stop being shitty.
• 51:34
  I feel like he's been really shitty in the first two episodes.
• 51:37
  Kara: He's just a really annoying brother right now.
• 51:39
  Yeah.
• 51:39
  Dani: He doesn't have a lot to work with except for being fucking
• 51:42
  mean to Daphne calling her grandpa.
• 51:44
  Kara: Yeah.
• 51:44
  And talk about
• 51:45
  Dani: the, uh, meat cleaver fetish.
• 51:47
  Bringing up fetishes, whatever.
• 51:50
  Kara: This episode was called American Gothic.
• 51:52
  Why do you think it was called that?
• 51:54
  Is that the one with the people holding the pitchfork?
• 51:56
  Dani: It is.
• 51:57
  I
• 51:57
  mean, I think it's like supposed to be sort of a portrait
• 52:03
  of a family in that time.
• 52:06
  And there's a lot of commentary on how they look miserable.
• 52:10
  So I think they're probably poking at that.
• 52:12
  This is a portrait of a family that is also clearly going through things.
• 52:16
  Kara: That is exactly what I was thinking.
• 52:18
  I don't know what the writers were thinking super intently about
• 52:20
  why they named these paintings, see these, these paintings.
• 52:23
  But it goes for like the entire show.
• 52:26
  Dani: I mean, it's intentional.
• 52:27
  I can't wait to see how closely they're able to tie it.
• 52:31
  Do we think they were starting to run out of paintings as
• 52:33
  we get into further seasons?
• 52:35
  I think they will, because this is, it is a lot of episodes per season.
• 52:39
  Kara: There is,
• 52:39
  Dani: I think that's it.
• 52:41
  Thanks for listening.
• 52:42
  And we'll
• 52:42
  Kara: be back whenever next week,
• 52:45
  Dani: Sure.
• 52:46
  Let's say next week maybe.