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B4evaKool "race a motorcycle" Podcast Ep. 08 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Welcome back to another edition of the be forever.
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  Cool podcast. My name is Rex 45 and I have the
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  pleasure, having Jim. I don't know if you want to give
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  you a last name but not, but that's up to you Carnival
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  mcconville, you know, I want to welcome to the show, you know,
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  I've learned a lot from from from this guy here.
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  I remember I was in Homestead. I think it was Homestead 2020,
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  pandemic year, which thank God for, you know, track people,
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  that opened it Trackers, I think by June, we were able to get
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  back out and get on a track, you know, and we were talking down
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  in Homestead and and, you know, I was just like, man, I want to
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  raise some more. And, and, and, and that's when
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  you chimed in the you started telling me stuff, right?
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  Yeah. It's telling them that, you
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  know, I race all over the all up of the up and down the coast and
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  all these different tracks and it's just a really cool
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  experience. You get two different tracks,
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  you get to meet all cool new people, and it's just a good
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  time and I was skeptical at first, you know, because just
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  thinking about, you know, the logistics parts of it, you know,
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  and getting down to because we're, you know, we're
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  Massachusetts and it's a long ride and, you know, you got me
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  thinking about like the schedule and you were talking about Azure
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  and just azra, you know, detect. I was doing working earlier, so,
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  you know how it is, you know, you know, you had me thinking
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  about the track and he was just like, yeah, man, go ahead.
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  And look at the schedule and and and kind of pick take a closer
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  look because a lot of the races overlap and you made it seem
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  like it wasn't a bad experience and you know, so you know before
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  we get into like scheduling and stuff like that do let's talk
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  about like how long you been racing and and when did you
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  start going? Pretty me, you know, wherever
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  you wanted to go race. So my rookie year was up in New
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  Hampshire in 2011 and I believe in 2012 was my first time with a
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  buddy. We wanted to go to Jersey and
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  Check that out and we had a great time.
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  We want the following year, and at that point, I started fading
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  away from my home track and wanted to venture everywhere
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  else and see, you know, what else I like and what are the
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  tracks there are, and what to learn be a better Rider
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  well-rounded Rider. Instead of learning to ride a
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  one-track. Got you got you.
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  And so we're you when you, when you first started you already
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  knew about all these other tracks.
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  You would you're doing track days and stuff like that.
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  No no, no. I maybe want to want to Two of
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  them before that vir was probably the only one I want to
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  before before that happened. And I just figured I'll check
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  them out. You know.
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  It's it's a good way to learn. Yeah, yeah.
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  It kind of you know I, you know, I was talking with TJ, you know,
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  on earlier shows and talking about like not really doing a
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  track day and and, you know, your chimed in saying well you
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  know, get your license is a track Day weekend, you know.
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  But you know for me I didn't, you know, took me like seven or
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  eight years. To say, okay, let me go
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  somewhere else, and raised, and it seems like you were doing
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  that kind of early on. Yeah.
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  I like I said I went to a couple of the tracks.
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  I want the jersey and Daytona and had a blast and learn some
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  so made some new friends while I was out there.
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  And thought, you know, this isn't as intimidating as I was
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  afraid to because our home track up in New Hampshire, the whole
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  Seasons at this one track and you, you build a family from
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  being there. So you kind of feel like the new
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  kid on the Block when you go somewhere else and I didn't
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  really Get out of my comfort zone, going to these other
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  tracks. So I just kind of wanted to
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  expand and go to more and kind of like what you do.
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  Now you just want to go to a new track almost every year got you.
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  And when did you decide like you know you are going to do like
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  all the regions of ccs and Hazard.
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  It was that right off the rip 2014.
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  That was when I was going after the the as our national
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  championship. And I wanted to do three other
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  regions, so I want full send in 2014.
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  And it kind of been doing it ever since I got burnt out, to
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  be honest that year and then I ran into some injuries from
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  crashes and scale the back a lot and then basically, when covid
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  happened and we couldn't go anywhere.
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  That's like, we said, I looked at the schedule and a lot of a
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  lot of the different regions all kind of blend into each other in
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  the same schedule. So I looked at this set off, I
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  do these couple weekends, I can do all these regions and and I
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  had a blast doing that so I kind of kept doing it since then.
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  Got you got you In the beginning and even now.
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  But it more in the beginning when you when you started
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  camping out and stuff like that and and planning your trips, you
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  know, like what are some of the mistakes, you know, you've made
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  or things you've learned along the way.
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  So I can, at least, say up my my first CCS experience my friend
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  and I rented a tent, it was the display model, that could fit
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  nothing more than a queen mattress in there and we just
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  didn't know it was a two of us sharing a Sharing that small
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  tent and it was like 90 degrees in the middle of the summer and
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  it was brutal. And then the next time we went,
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  we took his air conditioner out of his window and tried to zip
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  it around the tent and then we didn't think about the
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  condensation drip so a dripped in side of the tent and
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  everything got flooded inside there.
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  So you know, we learn along the ways and I've noticed with Chris
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  to is the more he kept going. He kind of kept paying attention
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  to my pet and my trail is set up and things started clicking and
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  making sense and yet. It seemed taking notes like,
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  alright, next weekend, I need, you know, walls for my canopy
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  next time. I need another canopy and now I
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  need a generator, and it just, it's a, you know, a long time of
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  developing list of the things to be prepared.
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  Got, you got to have him coming at, you know, you should write a
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  book because there was so much information.
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  I mean, even, you know, getting to the track early and why do we
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  want to get to the track early? That's another lesson.
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  I learned the hard way is when I was limited with vacation time.
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  I would I would do these Trips that are like thousand miles and
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  I would do the whole trip and maybe two days show up exhausted
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  Friday night. Wake up for Tech and morning,
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  practice and then learn a new track and I just didn't get to
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  enjoy because I was always tired and not well rested.
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  So now my game plan is to get there a day early.
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  From what I'm writing whether I'm doing the track day or not
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  until race day, but I'll get there at least a day to recoup
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  relax and set up and be ready to ride.
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  Yeah. And that's very important like
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  you II showed up, you know, late night and try to get up early
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  and and you know by Sunday I'm like I'm not racing today
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  because I'm done and you tried out right?
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  And you're like you know you got you gotta get here soon, I got
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  to get here sooner. And and and now I I follow suit
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  in and trying to get the tracks as early as possible.
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  And even even, you know, when you, when you sign up for races,
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  right? It makes sense to get there
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  early. You make sense to do that early
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  to, you're spending a lot of time and money to commit
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  yourself to do these I want to enjoy it to the full capacity.
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  Yeah, you definitely definitely. Now I noticed you don't
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  necessarily cook but you have a lot of, a lot of stuff.
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  I mean, it seems like you're kind of prepared just about most
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  almost every condition. I did try the cooking a couple
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  times. I would bring a little portable
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  grill and propane, but the problem for me was was keeping
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  the food cold, because if I was taking Two or three days to get
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  to the track. I didn't want to deal with ice
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  packs and keeping everything in cooler.
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  So it was just easier for me to just to go get takeout and not
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  deal with, you know, the condiments, the the paper plates
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  and the forks knives, and all that, it just, it was too much
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  work for me. Especially going by myself,
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  right, right. But you have ice maker, I did
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  get an ice maker and that was that was probably my last my
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  last little Gadget that I bought for the pit set up again, when
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  you're at the racetrack and it's Degrees out and you need to get
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  ice for your cooler and it's five miles down the road and
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  it's six bucks a bag. It's just easy to pull your own
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  from a you know bottle of water and make your own ice at your
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  convenience. Right.
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  Right. And I think that's the biggest
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  thing I learned is like do more things that you can do for
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  yourself. The easier.
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  It is your weekend, you know, whether it's bike, maintenance
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  or picking up food ahead of time, And doing all these things
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  and because if not your weekend is, can be horrible, right?
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  Convenience is key. I mean, like I said you're
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  spending a lot of time and money to be there at the racetrack and
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  you want to enjoy to your fullest so anything you can do
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  to make it more convenient and less stressful.
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  So have your bike prepared, fully and deal with your food or
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  make a buddy system which was big for me is to set up your pit
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  and are somebody that you know, that way you kind of can help
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  each other out. And in a sudden situation, like
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  a Like a rain event or a crash or something like that, right?
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  Right. And even being able to choose,
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  you know, you know, on top of the hill versus in the swamp,
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  just when it rains, right? I had my tent floating in New
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  Jersey, one year. So I learned the low spots on
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  the track there to, you know, it is one mistake, I keep having,
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  which is I've been destroying my canopies.
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  And I think I'm on my fifth canopy.
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  I think I went through two or three this year.
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  So, you know, paying attention to like wind conditions in these
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  things, you know? Again, things I see you do is
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  this. It just like, you know, you
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  know, when it's going to rain, like the night before your like
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  you're lowering your tent, but you can TP because it's going to
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  be windy and these are just from, you know, hard learn
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  mistakes or just, you know, talking to people.
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  I'm just kind of paying attention to what happens in the
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  pad I can seeing you know people that don't flip their canopies.
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  I've seen them get destroyed in the wind or if it's not going to
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  be winning it's raining. I see people setting up, you
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  know, the canopy walls. And I just kind of clicks like
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  oh they're going to keep their stuff in the electronics dry
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  because everything's walled in there.
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  Making a fort nice, nice. Now, get into the track.
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  You know, I you've put me onto a few apps that save some some
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  some Cash. Essentially you seem like you
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  know again you know talk about that a little bit, this it just
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  goes through years of experience and every dollar counts so if
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  you can save some money on gas and it converts into a getting
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  another rear tire for race, even the better so apps like GasBuddy
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  or ones that work with traffic and routing.
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  There's another one that I use for I think truck map I think
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  it's called because you can basically say that I have a
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  trailer so it will avoid Routes like in Connecticut that that
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  don't allow trailers or Parkways.
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  So there's stuff like that, that just makes things less stressful
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  for your trip. I got on Spring Hill Parkway
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  route, my trailer with this trailer and I got to the point
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  where it said, like, you know, like 8 point something height
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  and I was able to get off fairly and it was like a tight, tight
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  tight. I'm surprised I didn't hit the
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  car or hit the jersey barrier. It is it's very important to
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  have apps. And that avoid, you know, low
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  bridges and Roads that, you know, you're not supposed to be
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  on because she have a trailer. That'd be a very expensive
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  mistake. I've had a few of those
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  definitely had a few of those. Now you can like talk about like
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  you know, your trailer maintenance and just your car
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  maintenance because you like it seems like you have a log of,
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  you know, just about every mechanical part that can go
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  wrong. You know, changing fluids and
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  certain time I mean, right? So like I've explained to Crest
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  like you're traveling 1,000 miles and you giving up vacation
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  time and spending money to do all this.
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  You really don't want to miss out on that weekend or your
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  plans because of a mechanical failure whether it's your bike,
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  your tow rig or even your car. So I'm very on top of making
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  sure my trailer bearings are repacked at least once a year
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  and making sure the Transmission in the gear flowing in my
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  vehicle is is always clean and checked and topped off and make
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  sure the bike is ready to go. That way.
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  When I'm at the pits, I don't have to think about this.
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  I can just throw a leg over and ride, right?
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  Right? Yeah.
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  I will say, you're one of the few people that have car issues
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  or bike issues, but you also do a lot of that your work
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  yourself. And now do you, you must use a
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  friends and and and the web for a lot of information to help you
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  along the way. I've just been kind of learning
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  as I go. I one of my good friends that
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  actually got me into this. And doing, this started taught
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  me in the beginning on how to do these things and we worked on
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  other people's bikes. And then I just kind of went
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  from there on my own and just fortunately or unfortunately
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  I've been racing the same bike for ten years.
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  So, you know, once you kind of learn the ins and outs out of
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  it, once you can do it blindfolded, right?
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  That is true. I don't know if I can have a
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  bike one bike for ten years. I'm working on it now so now
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  what's planned for this year and you know, what do you have your
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  sights set on? So for me I've always had an
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  interest in trying where a just because they go to different
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  tracks that I've never been to and I always at least want to go
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  to one track new track to meet year and one that's been high on
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  my list as Barber Motorsports Park.
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  Okay. Okay.
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  I went there a year or two ago to help pit crew for a buddy
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  that was doing mode America and I saw the place and did a track
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  walk and I'm like, I need to ride here.
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  So at the end of the CCS season last year, I started looking at
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  where and said, you know, I'm going to try these guys, they go
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  to some tracks that I've been wanting to go to you, not you.
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  Yeah. Hopefully do the same this year.
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  I thought definitely want to try to get to Barber or maybe
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  Talladega this year. Have you been out to?
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  I know you did. Blackhawk have you done like
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  Mid-Ohio or any of those tracks? Not Mid-Ohio but I've done as
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  far as the Midwest goes, I've done Road America couple times
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  which is an amazing facility. Amazing track.
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  I want to Audubon a few times I did there North and South course
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  has a couple times and I've been to Blackhawk a few times which
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  I'm really a big fan of that place.
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  Even though the track may not be very agreeable to most Riders.
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  Yeah. Very tight.
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  Very very small. I like it.
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  I and I'm hoping to go Oh, back this year, I'm probably going to
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  try to run back the as our Series this year I do like it
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  because it really showed me how much space I have on these other
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  tracks. When you, when you start going
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  to the nicer tracks that are freshly paved you get very
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  spoiled and then when you go to an old attract that's got the
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  history and quite bumpy you kind of forget and it trees, can't
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  forget those trees. The curbs, right?
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  Don't look at the trees. Look at the track, weird.
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  No, Black Hawk was it was a fun time.
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  Looking forward to going back there.
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  Now what do you think about, you know, Loudon and the Neymar
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  series and the classic? And you know the big 250,000
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  dollar purse. It was that that's bringing a
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  lot of attention lately. A lot of attention, they just
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  released the the current list of the entries for the classic
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  today. Yep.
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  And there's some big names on there man.
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  I'm I'm really rooting for some of these Is these guys and I
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  hope the locals can can really dice it up with with the top
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  Pros that are going and it's going to be a fun race and it's
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  nice that they're adding a couple extra laps to it to ya,
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  for sure. I think it's 2525 and I assume
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  some of these guys are going to have to come to Loudon before.
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  So I've heard from a few people that some of the big names have
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  already committed a few months ago, when the person money was
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  being discussed, that they were going to go to a couple, the
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  rounds obviously weather. You know, depending right just
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  to get some extra see time because a track day is not going
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  to be good enough for these guys to be competitive at that level,
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  with some of the locals that have been racing at the same
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  track for 15, 40 years. Well fixed.
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  And through the the new track layout, right.
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  I guess whenever that was yeah, who do you have your?
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  You have a, you have a favorite yet or who do you think is
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  gonna? So I actually just had this
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  discussion before I came here with one of my friends who's a
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  long-term loud and Rider, my top pick is going to be Josh Hayes,
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  okay? And I think s going to be Shane
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  because that's, that's his home track and he's the king of loud
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  at this point, okay? Third, I'm thinking, it's either
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  going to be Stefano or Tyler Scott.
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  Okay. And I haven't done all the five,
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  but I think it fifth place was going to be I forget the list
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  now. I forget the other guy out that
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  Scott green, what I think is going to be, probably fifth.
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  Okay, but I'm missing like a fourth position.
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  I haven't figured that out yet. Eric wood.
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  I don't know if he can, if he can do that, many laps for that
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  long though. That's that's true.
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  Now, they were on a podcast the other day and they they're all
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  they sound like they're training for it.
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  I'm looking forward to seeing what would I think?
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  Sweeney and Haren are going to be battling back and forth a
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  lot. I think that they're writing
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  style. And I think they'll be pretty
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  close with the elapsed to it. I think that'll be pretty
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  exciting to. Okay, I can't wait and I think
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  it's going to spectate. Yeah.
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  The right it. No, no I'm not.
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  I mean I'm probably gonna race that day but not in that for
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  sure. But yeah, no, I'm looking
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  forward to it because, you know, the classic in general is always
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  been the biggest weekend and it's 100 Runyan runneth, it's
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  the oldest racing series in the country, so motorcycle racing.
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  So it's a big deal. So I can't I gotta send Spike
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  week two and it's the largest person in Sports history in the
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  u.s. I believe to.
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  So that's why it's bringing so much attention to for people to
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  go. So I'm just hoping they bring
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  additional bleaches because there's going to be a lot of
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  people that watch a lot of X Racers are going to be going.
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  Yeah I think so. I think so.
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  You think they'll just kind of opened up the regular section.
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  So folks the to check out the NASCAR seating.
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  Yeah they always have them open but there's only usually few
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  people out there, right? I'm looking for more bleachers,
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  like intern six or Turn 3 like world.
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  A lot of the passing action happens, I think you're good at,
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  you're going to have to just be on your bike and just go to
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  different places it just to see how it is.
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  I guess the practices are going to be pretty cool to watch to
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  though. Everything it's going to be
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  exciting. Yeah, yeah.
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  I mean from so and they probably going to have a they probably
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  going to have at least maybe two days the last year didn't have
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  to practices. They usually have to practice
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  days on on that weekend so they might even bring that back so
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  these guys get more time to dial their bikes and and yeah it's
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  going to be people have their eyes on the top Pros but That's
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  a real tough track to learn and it's going to take a lot of seat
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  time. So yeah, that's why I still
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  think the locals are going to are going to be up there in the
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  top five top ten because they've got 10 15 years experience at
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  this track. They know every bump in crevice
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  of that place and what to avoid and the fast guys with the
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  talent. They're just going to show up
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  with this super fast bikes and, you know, have a struggle to
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  learn. Yeah, I can, I can see that they
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  used to perfect tracks Loudon is Is perfect in some way, right?
• 20:03
  It's funny. We've heard people, you know,
• 20:05
  that either race that Loudon and or heard of it, like, you know,
• 20:09
  I remember they would talk about adding around to the Atlantic
• 20:14
  region of ccs and somebody was just like, oh loudness a death
• 20:18
  trap. Yeah, yeah.
• 20:21
  And the the one year that they did that they mixed up a allowed
• 20:25
  an event, it Jersey and then a CCS event went to Loudoun,
• 20:28
  right? The Riders were Very worried or
• 20:32
  concerned at first but then some of the guys that I talk to that,
• 20:36
  I knew it CCS Races, they the more they got there, the more
• 20:39
  they felt comfortable and they actually enjoyed and said, I
• 20:42
  would come back here and actually, for the, for the
• 20:44
  Loudoun classic, there is a CCS Rider that did exactly that.
• 20:48
  And he's now going to enter in the classic for this year.
• 20:50
  Nice nice, man. It's gonna, it's gonna be fun.
• 20:54
  I can't wait, even I guess even going up because there's only
• 20:57
  two rounds before it. I think it's the third round.
• 21:00
  And how do you do have your top predictions?
• 21:04
  No, I mean, I guess I like Brandon Posh, but who knows what
• 21:09
  he's going to do on that seven six.
• 21:10
  Five to seven. Yeah, seven six.
• 21:12
  Five is a good bike to run around at Loudon.
• 21:15
  We see from Ian on his seven six five or six 75 depend on which
• 21:20
  bike is running. So I'm a fan of his local, you
• 21:27
  know, ya can't bet against Greenwood right?
• 21:32
  And Shane is, is I would probably say is there?
• 21:37
  Eric wood is He hasn't, he's riding, he's riding his 848.
• 21:44
  Oh, he's got 848. Bill like what?
• 21:46
  He raised back. I think it was Ama or before I
• 21:49
  got too loud and he may have a V2.
• 21:52
  So it'll be interesting because he's familiar with that bike.
• 21:55
  So you know, so I can't forget, Eli, he was doing that, right?
• 22:02
  He was doing that race for a while, on a single syllables.
• 22:04
  Imagine what he's going to do with three more cylinders?
• 22:06
  Yeah, I was going to say Eli as well because he did a 112.
• 22:09
  Probably for his second time or third third weekend on our six,
• 22:14
  right? Like, I think there's like to
• 22:16
  rub two rounds at so, you know, you know, I think it's 25 laps
• 22:23
  and it's going to be the cooler heads that finished yet to
• 22:27
  finish, right? So, I think, I think the people
• 22:30
  that can, you know, I think the pros and Greenwood and and and
• 22:34
  Eric, I think those guys, you know, their patient and so, you
• 22:41
  know, I'll bet my money on the older Riders because allowed me,
• 22:45
  I think you have to be patient to especially for 25 laps.
• 22:48
  And I've most I've done at Loudon is like, 17, laps in a
• 22:51
  race. And and so it's 24, too many
• 22:54
  laps for me, Not, you know, it's not bad.
• 22:59
  It's you know, it's what I do. It's what I like I started on so
• 23:04
  I, you know, I like it and I still want to reset it and plan
• 23:10
  to until until, you know, it doesn't make sense.
• 23:13
  But you know, from a from I've crashed and turned 32 times.
• 23:19
  So you know it's it's what it is.
• 23:21
  You just if you haven't crashed in turn three, we even allowed
• 23:24
  racer. I split my A bike in half one
• 23:27
  down there. Yeah, I heard stories about
• 23:32
  that. So and I think that's the
• 23:35
  biggest part is probably turned three, but it's also the slowest
• 23:38
  turn. So, you know, it is what it is,
• 23:42
  but, you know, definitely will be fun to watch.
• 23:43
  So people, you know, definitely come out and I do you think it's
• 23:48
  are the entries is already full. No, there's still going to be
• 23:53
  some some gaps for people, and I'm sure people will try to do
• 23:56
  some last-minute entries. Once they see the purse money,
• 23:59
  right, right. Yeah.
• 24:00
  I could even heard they maybe even that, I don't know if it's
• 24:03
  a Superbike world champion. Well, well yeah, I saw in the
• 24:07
  superbike because if you went in the US while you're not world
• 24:10
  champion, right? You just Richie Escalante's on
• 24:13
  the list and I'm actually surprised PJ, didn't because
• 24:15
  he's somewhat of a local and he he learned on that track when he
• 24:19
  was starting his racing career. Yeah, so you know it is some big
• 24:23
  names and some big Riders. So I mean last year the classic
• 24:27
  was fun to watch so and you know and as I can only imagine this
• 24:32
  year it's going to be wild. I'm looking forward to sitting
• 24:35
  in the bleachers with a drink and watching the happen and not
• 24:38
  being on the track. Doing that for 25 laps mom.
• 24:41
  S, 25 laps is nothing you can do 25 laps, you know, not
• 24:46
  consecutively fact you can do back-to-back races.
• 24:51
  This is at least 16. Well, I guess it depends on
• 24:54
  which track here at, you know, that, you know, I like the GT
• 24:58
  use and and stuff, I didn't do many last year, but the first
• 25:01
  year when I was going up and down which also helped me learn
• 25:04
  that the tracks doing the gtu. So I kind of got used to it.
• 25:09
  So, speaking of the classes, when you started reaching out to
• 25:12
  me a couple of years ago and said how do you pick your
• 25:15
  schedule? How do you know what you're
• 25:16
  doing? Like, how did you figure out
• 25:19
  your schedule now and your regions?
• 25:21
  I was calling you. I like what does this mean?
• 25:26
  What does that mean? Not it's you know I stress in
• 25:31
  early episodes like real to read real books rule book because
• 25:36
  yeah, that was the hardest part is trying to figure out.
• 25:38
  Do I want to do, you know middleweight Superbike
• 25:40
  middleweight Supersport? It was doing formula 40 that I
• 25:44
  want to do the Grand Prix. You know, was my bike legal
• 25:48
  pissed off? Yeah, my bike legal for this
• 25:50
  one, you know. Oh, that, that type of thing.
• 25:53
  And, you know, I think for me, I had to try a bunch of different
• 25:58
  classes and that's kind of what I did before, kind of settled in
• 26:03
  by like, halfway through the season, I kind of settled into
• 26:06
  what, which ones I liked that type of thing, but I think you
• 26:09
  really just depending on, you know, if you're middleweight
• 26:12
  bike, you just do all the middleweight races and see which
• 26:14
  one you like. And then that's kind of how I
• 26:18
  kind of figured out. But also, I was also playing
• 26:20
  with Because I don't really have a, you know, I think I did 20
• 26:25
  rounds in 2021, between ccs and Loudon to lat.
• 26:29
  And and so, I was also a picking races, just based on when I can
• 26:33
  leave to drive back, you know, and so I had to figure out like
• 26:36
  I got to say to the last race because that's what it is and
• 26:40
  that's kind of when you start chasing like, you know,
• 26:42
  championships, right? When you be like, okay, well
• 26:45
  it's jumping around is great to learn tracks, and learn to
• 26:48
  stuff. But if you try, if you want to
• 26:50
  try to get a A championship. You kind of have to pick the
• 26:53
  same races right all the time. And, and, and you, you had to
• 26:57
  tell me that, like, at least three or four times.
• 26:59
  That's the thing, is, when I started CCS, I was picking based
• 27:02
  on schedule. Like, I don't want to be there
• 27:03
  to the end of the day. Sunday, I've got a seven,
• 27:05
  eight-hour drive home. So I'm going to pick the races
• 27:07
  early Sunday pack up and leave, right.
• 27:09
  But once you start getting familiar with the different
• 27:13
  classes and what which ones you like with your competitive and
• 27:16
  your competitive classes and who you're riding with, then you say
• 27:19
  OK. Well now, Might want to do a
• 27:21
  championship. So I'm going to commit to the
• 27:23
  specific races and I'm going to follow the schedule and do and
• 27:26
  do the whole region. Right?
• 27:27
  Exactly. That's where we're at now.
• 27:29
  Yeah. And and so, you know, for me
• 27:33
  Nick 2023, I'm doing the 300 / moto3 class because I'm racing
• 27:38
  the KTM and coming out of the middleweight class and I had to
• 27:42
  for even looking at where and looking at a HRM, a looking at
• 27:46
  the schedule because you know I'm hoping to raise Laguna, so
• 27:49
  Luna sake. Probably next year.
• 27:52
  So, you know, just looking at the schedules and stuff like
• 27:55
  that. Now, it's just like, okay, I
• 27:56
  have a better understanding of what classes my bike fit in now,
• 28:00
  but when I first started, you know, I was completely clueless.
• 28:05
  Yeah, it's that. There is no easy way to learn
• 28:08
  it. See, and that's what I said.
• 28:09
  You just try different stuff and see what you like, because it's
• 28:12
  not going to be the same for you.
• 28:13
  You might like the middleweight raises.
• 28:14
  You might like the formula races or the GTS and you might like
• 28:18
  the lightweight stuff for the middleweight stuff, because you
• 28:20
  have different bikes. Give it a shot you first year or
• 28:23
  two and then you kind of figure out a plan in your head on what
• 28:26
  you want to commit to going forward.
• 28:27
  Yeah and I would say last year I did two bikes to clap to to
• 28:33
  light, ultra light weight, or 300 class and the middleweight
• 28:35
  class. And I had a lot of back-to-back
• 28:37
  races if. So if you're doing two different
• 28:40
  bike classes, you might yes. Yeah, I'm not.
• 28:44
  I'm only doing one bike this year, especially when the
• 28:47
  weather keeps raining and drying because you don't know what to
• 28:49
  do in between. I still haven't got no van.
• 28:51
  SE bike. Nice nice.
• 28:56
  So, so this year, new tracks couple of new tracks for you
• 29:00
  this year, still staying with the same bike and you're not
• 29:05
  going to get RS 60 or Yamaha R9, R 7.
• 29:11
  I mean, I am very comfortable with the Suzuki and I like the
• 29:13
  Suzuki's and I'm at the point that I know them, you know,
• 29:17
  mechanically inside and out. So it's easy for me because a
• 29:20
  big thing that I've always told people at the track when the
• 29:23
  talking about racing is, Don't be the different guy in the
• 29:27
  track. Don't get the rare bike.
• 29:29
  That no one has parts or knowledge for get what everyone
• 29:32
  has because there's a reason get the get the ninja, get the R6 or
• 29:36
  the Suzuki because if you crash or a part breaks like a
• 29:39
  rectifier or you know, radiator radiator, case in point, you can
• 29:45
  go around the paddock and generally find someone that will
• 29:47
  have a spare part and get you back on the track.
• 29:49
  Because once again, you spent all that time and money to get
• 29:52
  there, it would really suck if you have to Pack them and go
• 29:54
  home because of something like that.
• 29:56
  Yeah definitely definitely. Now this is something I got into
• 30:01
  last year because of you and you know and you know you started
• 30:06
  getting sponsorship and kind let's talk about you know what
• 30:08
  made you do it and you know you know your thoughts on it and is
• 30:13
  it a good thing? She'll everybody try to do it.
• 30:16
  Is it easy, you know? Or you know I mean that's kind
• 30:21
  of a loaded question because it all depends on what you're
• 30:24
  trying to. To get out of it or if you're
• 30:26
  just trying to get a discount on some stuff that you buy, you
• 30:29
  know, it might work if you are expecting or looking for a free
• 30:33
  product and you're willing to put in that kind of work, then
• 30:36
  that's fine as well. But you really have to know, you
• 30:39
  know, what you're committing to and what your expectations are
• 30:42
  from them, all right? So it's easier to get a discount
• 30:47
  than it is to say, get free stuff.
• 30:50
  Right in. And when it comes down to and I
• 30:52
  believe it was Eric wood from Woodcraft that was explaining.
• 30:55
  This is, you know, when you reach out to us for sponsorships
• 30:59
  we know what you want. You want free or discounted
• 31:01
  parts. But our question is, what are
• 31:03
  you going to do for us? Because slapping a sticker on a
• 31:06
  bike and putting our name in your results sheet or tagging Us
• 31:09
  in social media once in a while. It doesn't really do anything.
• 31:12
  You know, everyone's got the same stickers and all that no
• 31:15
  one's going to call. Look at a picture of Chris's
• 31:18
  bike on and go. Go always.
• 31:19
  Go to Woodcraft sticker. I'm going to call Woodcraft and
• 31:22
  say, I want whatever he has, you know, you have to put the the
• 31:25
  interactions in the face-to-face stuff with the Riders and
• 31:28
  explain and show why their parts are worth purchasing and to
• 31:33
  bring in business for them, got you and now and so it has more.
• 31:38
  And what about the free stuff is that like I mean, when you say
• 31:40
  put in work because you get some free stuff is fair to say and
• 31:45
  you get some discounts as well and you know, you you've been
• 31:49
  able To cultivate seems like a beautiful relationship with some
• 31:52
  vendors that give you some, some love, it wasn't easy, and the
• 31:58
  expectation when people do sponsorships is well I'm a fast
• 32:02
  rider. Okay, well, a lot of those guys
• 32:04
  don't really last more than two or three years.
• 32:06
  So sponsors kind of look into that because they want to they
• 32:09
  want a longer commitment. They want someone that's going
• 32:11
  to be at the track and speed and it doesn't necessarily mean
• 32:14
  dollars. Like I said not, everyone is
• 32:16
  going to go and say I want what Chris has Has, he won that race?
• 32:20
  All right, they're going to go to and call them and say, I want
• 32:24
  what Chris has because I talked with him, he explained the
• 32:26
  parts. He was showing how they're
• 32:28
  useful in the replace, how to replace them in this.
• 32:31
  I want to try your stuff so going back to the whole
• 32:36
  commitment thing if for free products.
• 32:37
  For example, I send out newsletters every month to my
• 32:41
  sponsors with race results Championship status, changes to
• 32:45
  the bike. What the next event is including
• 32:49
  Target photos that I buy from from all the various
• 32:52
  photographers at the track, right?
• 32:54
  I will send out periodically emails with.
• 32:57
  Hey, do you have any products you need me to push or hashtags
• 33:00
  or what do you need me to promote for you?
• 33:03
  What do you, what are you looking to get out of me as well
• 33:06
  as at the end of the year, I'll send out social media stats
• 33:09
  which shows the age. The gender, the geographical
• 33:14
  ocean location. That way I can say I'm targeting
• 33:16
  your audience that you want. I'm getting this Angel.
• 33:19
  This Age rate. I'm getting this part of the
• 33:21
  country and these are the, you know, the males between 18, to
• 33:26
  35, or your targeted customer for racing and track products.
• 33:31
  Wow, not to get too much into it.
• 33:33
  But what do we want to? I mean, because a lot of you
• 33:36
  know some people may just think it's easy or some people may
• 33:39
  think it's not worth it, you know for a while I you know, I
• 33:42
  didn't even I didn't even think about I was trying to just fix
• 33:45
  my ride in and ride better ride better and not thinking like, oh
• 33:48
  maybe I should get this. It's and stuff and cut maybe
• 33:51
  work, try to to get some some some not necessary free stuff
• 33:54
  because you got to work for it as you just mentioned but it in
• 33:59
  after being able to do it for a couple years now.
• 34:01
  It's like yeah everything helps and I mean unless you're
• 34:05
  financially stable and you don't care about discounts or you
• 34:07
  don't want to put stickers on your bike and you just want your
• 34:10
  own decals and logos in there. Then that's fine.
• 34:14
  But the big thing that I have that I stress for likes new true
• 34:17
  writers because they'll apply for everything.
• 34:19
  And you don't want to be a rolling billboard, right?
• 34:22
  There's a couple riders that their whole bike is just full of
• 34:25
  sponsorship stickers or brands that they've purchased.
• 34:28
  The problem is is when you look at a photo, you can identify one
• 34:31
  brand because they're just plastered with all these
• 34:34
  different stickers. That's not attractive to
• 34:36
  sponsors because they want, they want to get the attention in the
• 34:39
  photos. Or when you see them on the
• 34:40
  track, that's you, you don't want to look like a mural.
• 34:44
  I got to take some stickers off my bike.
• 34:48
  But you understand what I'm saying?
• 34:50
  II do it's marketing and and these folks, these companies
• 34:55
  they want to get the value from what put a given you.
• 34:59
  And you know 30% 40% on a discount is is great, especially
• 35:04
  if you crash a lot or, you know, your camera fall off the
• 35:07
  straight away. Like my GoPro did down at NC
• 35:10
  bike because I didn't, you know, safety wire it to my bike.
• 35:14
  Well, it's not just crashing to its maintenance.
• 35:17
  You do a lot of riding you're going to burn through a lot of
• 35:19
  oil. You're going to burn through a
• 35:20
  lot of tires. You just going to use a lot of
• 35:22
  parts. Shout out to motul and Magellan
• 35:25
  and Michelin. Yeah, of course.
• 35:27
  Good, good. Good.
• 35:27
  People's use Michelin tires to I use Mitchell and ties for sure
• 35:33
  then motel or the well. So but that is the thing, you
• 35:37
  know, Finding Brands you like. And if you do like these
• 35:41
  products then you know, look to see if they have sponsor
• 35:43
  programs and it pretty much apply, right?
• 35:47
  and another thing of advice that I personally have given out to
• 35:50
  Riders is Don't pick the sponsorship just because they're
• 35:55
  giving you an offer. If it's not something that you
• 35:57
  like or would want to use, don't waste your time right.
• 36:00
  So I've seen in its more common with influencers that they'll
• 36:04
  whatever gets thrown at them. And you know, let's just say a
• 36:07
  suit or a jacket. They got for free because
• 36:09
  they're an influencer and if they crashed and the suit tort
• 36:12
  tears apart they end up message me going, man, I really wish I
• 36:16
  didn't take the suit and I would have read a by one of a better
• 36:19
  quality or any sort of Brands like that.
• 36:22
  Got ya. Fisher.
• 36:23
  You definitely don't want free stuff just to be free.
• 36:26
  You kind of have to like it. I mean I think I heard the
• 36:28
  Shaquille O'Neal says but it's anything anybody in general?
• 36:31
  Like, why would you, you know, invest, or spend time in
• 36:36
  something? You don't really like, I mean, I
• 36:37
  guess if you just want to check right?
• 36:40
  I mean I will only do sponsorships with brands that I
• 36:44
  would or have bought if I had to pay full retail, I just I've had
• 36:49
  offers with other helmets and all that and it's like, I
• 36:51
  appreciate that but I'll only way awry.
• 36:54
  So if I can't get a deal with her I'm still going to buy them
• 36:57
  but I turned down other other brands got you?
• 37:00
  Got you now the brands that like talking to the track and talk
• 37:05
  about you know brands at the track that you deal with and and
• 37:08
  and you know because your Mitchell in now you and you just
• 37:11
  traveling up and down how do you find, you know, working with
• 37:16
  that organization and and you know, dealing with different
• 37:19
  type of, guys up, for lack, of a better word at the tracks.
• 37:23
  It's good. I mean, you build a
• 37:24
  relationship, the more you ride with them, the more you work
• 37:27
  with them and sometimes you go like in the South, for example,
• 37:31
  there's often not a Michelin vendor, so I usually will bring
• 37:35
  tires with me and have a different, vendor install them.
• 37:39
  And if I have questions regarding the tire, where the
• 37:42
  vendors that I do work with normally, in the season, they
• 37:44
  great. I can send them photos and ask
• 37:46
  questions and they respond. Nice, nice.
• 37:50
  Have you tried other brands besides the Mitchell in OU kind
• 37:52
  of was Like always mentioning. So the other thing that I highly
• 37:56
  recommend for track-day riders or even Racers, when they're
• 37:59
  starting is to try everything, you don't know what you're going
• 38:03
  to. Like unless you try same thing
• 38:05
  with going to different racetracks.
• 38:06
  So I've written on every Tire with the exception of
• 38:10
  Bridgestone but I have used Bridgestone rains.
• 38:13
  You got you. Yeah.
• 38:14
  I think we're just all trained. I think I've tried every one
• 38:18
  except for Dunlop. That's the only one I haven't
• 38:22
  tried. But other than that and you
• 38:25
  know, it's funny. I wrote Mitchell ends and then,
• 38:28
  you know, switch to Bridgestone for a quick second and and I'm
• 38:32
  back to my children and I thought about going up early for
• 38:35
  a little bit but I think I'm going to run this year on a
• 38:37
  Mitchell ins because I have honestly no complaints about
• 38:40
  him. I actually started my race My
• 38:42
  Race season when I started as a rookie on Continental.
• 38:45
  Huh there's a few people that run.
• 38:47
  Continental and bam. Yeah.
• 38:52
  Maybe cars that might have had some Continentals as that's
• 38:56
  about it. Now let's talk about like, you
• 38:58
  know, show you the maintenance, you do on your bike you pretty
• 39:01
  much do all of it but you know like you do tear down your
• 39:05
  engine as well. You tear down your suspension.
• 39:07
  Do you send those things out and kind of like what do you do in
• 39:10
  the offseason because you know until until you go racing again
• 39:14
  we're at this year's an anomaly because like the last few years
• 39:16
  there was like no offseason you around town for two to three
• 39:20
  years. So it maintenance is a big thing
• 39:23
  because you if your ex You need to have a consistent performing
• 39:29
  vehicle vehicle or motorcycle. And if you don't keep up with
• 39:32
  the maintenance, then the, the bike won't perform consistently
• 39:37
  in. It's going to impact your
• 39:39
  performance and you won't feel confident in the bike to ride it
• 39:42
  at your potential. So to answer your question, I
• 39:47
  don't work on motor or suspension internals okay.
• 39:50
  Those are I take them off and I hand him to the professionals
• 39:53
  and say, work your magic. Anything else is mine?
• 39:57
  So right after Daytona, I swap the frames because I had a crack
• 40:01
  in one of them from from an old wreck.
• 40:04
  And I do this every year to I will re grease and repack the
• 40:08
  chassis bearings or replace them and that's including the
• 40:11
  linkage. The steering head bearings, the
• 40:14
  the swing arm bearings, even the wheel bearings to write because
• 40:18
  as soon as those things start to go the bikes, just not going to
• 40:21
  feel right? Yeah, absolutely, right.
• 40:24
  And yet a first person The that I heard and it could you tell me
• 40:29
  that you're doing all these things?
• 40:30
  And I was like, I didn't even think of all that and, you know,
• 40:35
  breaks Yasin. I clean.
• 40:37
  I clean my brake Pistons every other race weekend.
• 40:40
  Wow. Just to keep that performance.
• 40:43
  Just to keep the dust from building up up there and causing
• 40:45
  brake failures. Because when it comes down to
• 40:48
  it, it's my life, you know, not only do I going to endanger my
• 40:52
  own life but my fellow Racers around me and You know, I I just
• 40:57
  don't know. How would, you know, go on,
• 41:00
  right? Right.
• 41:01
  If I cause somebody to get severely hurt or worse because I
• 41:04
  was being lazy with my maintenance.
• 41:06
  Yeah. Okay.
• 41:06
  You maintenance done, folks, get them done because it's very
• 41:10
  important. I think I slacked off last year
• 41:13
  a little bit because I definitely had, like issues at
• 41:17
  the beginning, the year that I could have avoided.
• 41:19
  If I was, if I just looked my bike over.
• 41:21
  Well, listen to me. Yeah, exactly.
• 41:23
  Well, isn't it to Jim? Some do and I do a lot more and
• 41:28
  it's helped me out a lot going up and down the east coast and
• 41:31
  you know it's made my life easier because I act you know,
• 41:35
  going to these places by yourself and just being
• 41:37
  completely green. Sure.
• 41:38
  The track is most people are friendly and and somebody will
• 41:42
  point in the right direction, but sometimes you don't, you
• 41:44
  know, you don't want to overstep your welcome or whatever, the
• 41:46
  case may order, that's how I kind of feel about it.
• 41:48
  So it was easy that you know how we connected and and then just
• 41:51
  going down going down all these different tracks and me last few
• 41:55
  years. It's been A pretty cool trick.
• 41:57
  You like two years to Fort before we started changing a
• 42:00
  gearing for racetracks. I took about like six months.
• 42:03
  But like I said, we got to date owner and in October I was
• 42:09
  changing my giri the first year. That's right.
• 42:14
  Because that's that's when I really started talking to you, a
• 42:17
  lot is when we had the garage and you were frustrated because
• 42:20
  you brought your bike to a shop to have them, do the Daytona
• 42:23
  gearing and they messed the gearing up.
• 42:24
  They did the wrong. Ratio in the wrong size chain
• 42:28
  and you couldn't even get your tire warmer on.
• 42:29
  Yeah. And you ready to pack up and go
• 42:31
  home when Mike? What are you out of your mind?
• 42:33
  How much did you spend to get down here and do all this?
• 42:36
  And I was like, screw that. I'm like oh go to the vendor go.
• 42:38
  By another chain will get, we're going to fix this.
• 42:40
  You're going to get him into the next practice.
• 42:42
  Yep. And that that's how it worked
• 42:44
  out and you know, I did fairly well that that weekend and, you
• 42:49
  know it but it's pretty wild because it's like You know, if
• 42:54
  you don't know certain things, you kind of just get stuck, so
• 42:58
  it's always good to just have somebody that you that kind of
• 43:02
  help you out especially in the beginning and, and make it easy.
• 43:06
  So, everybody should have a gym when I go around water first.
• 43:09
  That's the problem with uzuki's because I've been racing so long
• 43:12
  in the same bike. Everyone's like, oh, you have a
• 43:13
  problem with the Jacks. Are you looking for a part of
• 43:15
  the guy over there with with the multiple canopies?
• 43:17
  He's probably got the tool, the part or know how to get it or
• 43:21
  get one for right and As other thing, right?
• 43:23
  You like the amount of tools that you have, it is like legit.
• 43:26
  Like you have it, you have a tool.
• 43:27
  You have it. You have to have everything you
• 43:29
  need. It's not always easy start.
• 43:31
  Now, which we talked about on some other episodes but, you
• 43:34
  know, like your to your, you know, your toolbox, got
• 43:38
  everything. And so I actually just went
• 43:40
  through it in October and started taking out duplicates
• 43:43
  and things that I don't need. But my toolbox is essentially
• 43:46
  set up for me to disassemble the bike all the way down to a frame
• 43:50
  and then built it back up. In that event because I did it
• 43:53
  at a friend's garage after Daytona.
• 43:55
  Nice. So I've got all the special
• 43:57
  sockets and everything there. And everything's all organized
• 44:00
  for quick and easy access. Nice, nice.
• 44:02
  That way. You know, when we have a quick
• 44:04
  rain, you know, when it starts to rain and you got to change
• 44:06
  your tires really quick, I can go.
• 44:07
  Hey, Chris, go into that second drawer.
• 44:08
  On the left hand side, get me, the 10 millimeter socket.
• 44:12
  Yeah. And that and if that exactly how
• 44:14
  it sounds and I'm like and I still be like, oh you talking
• 44:16
  about, I've gotten better, I've gotten better, you know.
• 44:22
  My toolbox game is is coming up. I was actually thinking about
• 44:26
  you know pulling out some tools that I may not need.
• 44:28
  But now that you said all that them, they're going back in well
• 44:34
  and he won. You want to shout out or
• 44:37
  responses you want to talk about you know, and thank you for
• 44:40
  coming on. It's been a wealth of knowledge
• 44:43
  and I can't wait to think April. All your Kong Racing next month.
• 44:47
  I wish I was You still can still have the opportunity, but
• 44:52
  fingers crossed like Chris mentioned.
• 44:55
  I'm, I'm big on multiple. I've been partnered with them
• 44:59
  since I think 2013 2014 about now.
• 45:04
  You know, they've always been really great to me, and I'm very
• 45:07
  fortunate to now have a partnership with Michelin as
• 45:10
  well, and looking forward to their their new power
• 45:12
  Performance Tire that just came out.
• 45:14
  So I'm going to be using that this year.
• 45:16
  Nice, I just got on motul. I'm not a partner.
• 45:18
  Yeah, but I get discount. Well, thanks for coming down.
• 45:21
  Is to be forever. Cool podcast, my name is Rex 45.
• 45:25
  This is Jim peace.