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Married At First Sight UK Off Air After Rape Allegations · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Monday, May twenty fifth, and a
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Speaker 1: hit a hit dating reality show has been completely pulled
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Speaker 1: off the air after allegations from two women who says
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Speaker 1: they were raped by the person they were matched with
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Speaker 1: on screen. With that, welcome to this episode of Amy
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Speaker 1: and TJ. We should start rolls with what the show
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, because it certainly jumped out at us
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Speaker 1: Married at First Sight.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this is married at First Site UK, So this
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Speaker 2: is the British version and it is completely separate from
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Speaker 2: the version here in the United States. In fact, a
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Speaker 2: lot of things about the show are different. But on
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Speaker 2: the married It first site rape show at sorry, the
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Speaker 2: married It first Site show at the UK.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're getting to the rape. But yes, that's the
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Speaker 1: TI tongue to us to there love.
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Speaker 2: That I just said that. But yes, two women told
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Speaker 2: the BBC this was a documentary that they recently aired,
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Speaker 2: that they were raped by their on screen husbands. Now,
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Speaker 2: in the UK version, they don't legally get married. In
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Speaker 2: the US version they are legally married. There is a distinction,
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Speaker 2: but these are their on screen husbands, that's how they're described.
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Speaker 2: And then a third woman has accused her on screen
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Speaker 2: husband of sexual misconduct. Now, none of the women reported
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Speaker 2: these incidents to police. We should point that out. But
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Speaker 2: because of these allegations, now the broadcaster that has these shows,
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Speaker 2: and there are ten seasons of these shows, they have
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Speaker 2: pulled every single episode, every single season of the show
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Speaker 2: off the air. They've paused all their social media accounts,
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Speaker 2: they've issued an apology, and they've announced an external review
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Speaker 2: that is taking place.
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Speaker 1: An external is very important. We'll get into for uh
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Speaker 1: in just a second. Rote, So let's go back how
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Speaker 1: many seasons in the UK version?
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Speaker 2: There are ten seasons seasons okay that have aired.
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Speaker 1: So even though robes we say they are tied in
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Speaker 1: title and licensing, if you will, but they're not produced.
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Speaker 1: They're produced by two totally separate entities. Yes, they share
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Speaker 1: a name, and they share namesake, and they share that
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Speaker 1: same idea, but that needs to be made clear. This
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Speaker 1: is not the same production company.
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Speaker 2: Correct, So yes, there are no allegations in the United States.
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Speaker 2: And look, this is an operation of franchise if you will,
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Speaker 2: that began in the Netherlands. It's now a version of
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Speaker 2: this show Married at First site is in thirty five
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Speaker 2: countries around the world.
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Speaker 1: So this could have a potential to put a stain
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Speaker 1: on the entire system and the entire all these shows.
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Speaker 1: But Roges it does this time around. You and I
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Speaker 1: watch a lot of these shows, and we have these
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Speaker 1: questions all the time. I said, how long before somebody
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Speaker 1: gets paired or match with somebody who turns out to
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Speaker 1: be some kind of a monster, and then what kind
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Speaker 1: of recourse do they have against the show? I always
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Speaker 1: wondered about this stuff.
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Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting because they've obviously been talking
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Speaker 2: to a lot of reality show contestants now about what
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Speaker 2: the oversight is and how they vet for folks. And
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Speaker 2: someone who was on Love Island made this really interesting comment.
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Speaker 2: They said they had constant supervision. There are cameras on
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Speaker 2: Love Island twenty four to seven documenting everything and everyone,
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Speaker 2: but there is much less oversight on marrit at first sight.
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Speaker 2: Because contestants live together in private apartments without continual monitoring.
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Speaker 2: They have to have that to see if their relationships
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Speaker 2: can work, so there isn't as much oversight, which potentially
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Speaker 2: leads to a situation where there could be issues that
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Speaker 2: have arisen, just like this one.
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Speaker 1: And Robes I the part about that one. You have
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Speaker 1: two people thrown. They literally just met this afternoon and
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Speaker 1: are expected to go into a honeymoon suite together that night.
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Speaker 1: They are robes. That sounds pretty terrifying.
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Speaker 2: You pointed out. They are actively encouraged to be emotionally
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Speaker 2: and physically sexually involved with these folks, and that's part
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Speaker 2: of the social experiment. They are encouraged to have sex.
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Speaker 2: They are encouraged to form these very intense emotional bonds
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Speaker 2: very quickly, outside the norms of almost any other relationship.
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Speaker 1: Everybody was talking to here knows the premise of the show.
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Speaker 1: We keep moving on, like folks, understand They for the
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Speaker 1: most part, Yes, you got these experts out there who
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Speaker 1: go through apparently robes, pretty extensive work and looking at
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Speaker 1: people's backgrounds, and they match people up. And then those
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Speaker 1: people have agreed to step to the Altar cite unseen
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Speaker 1: and marry a perfect stranger. They don't even know each
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Speaker 1: other's first names when they get up there, and that
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Speaker 1: is the experiment. And what do they give six weeks,
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Speaker 1: I think, to live together and try to make it work.
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Speaker 1: If at the end of that six weeks it doesn't work,
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Speaker 1: they have this ceremony where they say, do you want
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Speaker 1: to stay married or do you want to get a divorce.
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Speaker 1: So as far as these in the US are legal
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Speaker 1: in binding, they are.
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Speaker 2: They actually have to go through a divorce or an
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Speaker 2: annulment process and it's legal. So yes, you a divorce
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Speaker 2: on your record if you go on the show in
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Speaker 2: the United States.
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Speaker 1: So that's the premise and robes. That's pretty terrifying. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what kind of legal disclaimer you're and whatnot
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Speaker 1: you would have to.
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Speaker 2: They signed prenups here in the United States.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, to get for a show to be able
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Speaker 1: to protect itself, you can't guarantee behind closed doors what
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Speaker 1: kind of person somebody's going to turn into, and what
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Speaker 1: if they end up assaulting somebody.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what is said to have happened in
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Speaker 2: the UK version against that right. So look, let's go
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Speaker 2: over these women's allegations because they are distinctive and they
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Speaker 2: We know that the third woman who just made an
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Speaker 2: allegation of sexual misconduct, she gave her name and so
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Speaker 2: we know she was on season eight. The other two
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Speaker 2: women we don't know what seasons, We don't know anything
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Speaker 2: because they're trying to protect their identities.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be clear, the two are that we
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Speaker 1: don't know are the two rape victims.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we don't know which season. We don't know because
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Speaker 2: they're protecting their identities. But the first woman said that
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Speaker 2: her on screen husband not only rape her, but threatened
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Speaker 2: her with an acid attack. She said he had a
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Speaker 2: massive temper when the cameras went off. Her quote was,
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Speaker 2: he would just explode. He would go into this absolute
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Speaker 2: focused anger. Now she had consensual sex with him plenty
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Speaker 2: of times, she said, the sex started to turn violent
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Speaker 2: and she had fingerprints from where he'd grabbed her and
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Speaker 2: forced her. So the moment where one night where she
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Speaker 2: claims that she didn't want to have sex and he
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Speaker 2: forced her. The following morning, as soon as she left,
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Speaker 2: she said, she messaged what they called the welfare team,
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Speaker 2: and this is part of what they have in place
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Speaker 2: for these types of shows, and she showed them her
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Speaker 2: bruises and they took pictures of the bruises. But she
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Speaker 2: didn't tell them at the time that it was a
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Speaker 2: non consensual act. She just said he was rough with her,
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Speaker 2: he was violent with her. So this is the first
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Speaker 2: time the show says they are even hearing that she's
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Speaker 2: claiming she's admitted that she did not tell them at
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Speaker 2: the time it was non consentual.
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Speaker 1: What's the suggestion about what should have taken place next?
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Speaker 1: If she was making a complaint that it was vibe
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Speaker 1: she told them as a head's up on Was anything
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Speaker 1: done after that is?
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Speaker 2: She says no? She says no. And then this second
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Speaker 2: woman says she told show producers before the broadcast, before
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Speaker 2: her season aired, before her episodes aired, that she was
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Speaker 2: raped by her on screen husband. She said, first, the
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Speaker 2: first thing that happened that she didn't want to happen
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Speaker 2: is that while she was sleeping, he grabbed her breasts
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Speaker 2: and grabbed her bomb. Okay. Eventually she says, they had
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Speaker 2: consensual sex. Okay, this one's a little this one's a
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Speaker 2: little tough. She said that on the occasion she's referring to,
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Speaker 2: she wasn't in the mood. He said should we have sex?
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Speaker 2: And she said, I don't want to. But he started
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Speaker 2: having sex with her anyway, kind of just got on
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Speaker 2: top of her, and he noticed that she wasn't into it,
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Speaker 2: and he said, why you're not into it. She's like,
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Speaker 2: I told you I didn't want to, and he was like,
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Speaker 2: and they're already having sex at this point, having sex
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Speaker 2: when they're having this conversation, and he said, well, you're
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Speaker 2: making me feel like a rapist, and he's and then
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Speaker 2: she said he stopped, but he still had sex with her,
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Speaker 2: and she said later upon reflection, when she talked to
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Speaker 2: a therapist, they told her that that was actually rape.
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Speaker 2: So he's denying it. He said, this is completely consensual,
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Speaker 2: and I stopped as soon as she said I as
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Speaker 2: soon as I realized she wasn't into it. But her
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Speaker 2: point is she told him no several times beforehand. So look,
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Speaker 2: this is tough. There these are gray areas. No means
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Speaker 2: no yes. But you're now on this show. You're told
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Speaker 2: you're married, you're encouraged to have sex. You're not in
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Speaker 2: the mood. If he insists anyway, is that rape? I
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Speaker 2: mean this, and none of it went to the police,
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Speaker 2: but this is this is I'm surprised, to be honest,
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Speaker 2: this hasn't happened sooner.
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Speaker 1: You know what, maybe these folks are going to start
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Speaker 1: speaking up about this now or viewing their relationships differently
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Speaker 1: that they had in the past when they somebody thought,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I really didn't want to have sex,
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Speaker 1: and this show pressured me to do so robes this
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Speaker 1: stuff exactly.
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Speaker 2: My wheel started turning, and I thought other contestants are
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Speaker 2: going to hear this. Many of these marriages do end
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Speaker 2: in divorce. Most of them end in divorce. You go back,
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Speaker 2: you're angry, you're upset, you're embarrassed, you don't like what happened.
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Speaker 2: You start reflecting about where the relationship went sour, and
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Speaker 2: you start thinking things happen to you that shouldn't happen.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying thinking maybe they did happened to you
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Speaker 2: that you didn't want to, that you didn't view in
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Speaker 2: a different lens. Now you're hearing this report from the VBC.
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Speaker 1: What always happens?
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Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds like my story exactly exactly. And now
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Speaker 2: this third woman, she has identified herself Shonah Manderson. She's
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Speaker 2: from season eight. This was in twenty twenty three. She's
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Speaker 2: accusing her on screen husband of subjecting her to what
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Speaker 2: they're referring to as a non consensual sexual act. Bottom
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Speaker 2: line is she wanted him to pull out and he didn't.
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Speaker 2: That's what and so that is now being considered a
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Speaker 2: sexual misconduct, an act of sexual misconduct, and she is upset,
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Speaker 2: and she also contributed to this documentary.
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Speaker 1: What that's I mean side that's not a situation up
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Speaker 1: for interpretation, but it's an allegation having to do with
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Speaker 1: the show, and it has to do with two strangers
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Speaker 1: being put together who don't know each other well enough
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Speaker 1: to know their likes and their dislikes and their moods
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Speaker 1: and frankly how their sexual appetites. They don't know each
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Speaker 1: other at all, So you're getting to know each other
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Speaker 1: through sex.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what they sign. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if they agree to have sex with their partner.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation and if the rules
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Speaker 2: will change about the show now based on this, because look,
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Speaker 2: the British Broadcasting Company is doing an external review because
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Speaker 2: they claim that any of these other cases that were
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Speaker 2: brought up at the time were all reviewed internally. And
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Speaker 2: when contestants are having to talk to show producers or
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Speaker 2: members of the show's staff, even if it's their welfare team,
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Speaker 2: they feel like they're encouraged to keep the show the
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Speaker 2: production going. So there isn't this incentive to be honest
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Speaker 2: or open or to have some out, some outside source
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Speaker 2: that can they can make better recommendations.
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Speaker 1: No, offense to those producers and the welfare folks, but
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Speaker 1: they all work for the company. Correct all work because
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Speaker 1: they need this show to be a hit. That is
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Speaker 1: number one, not your emotions at the time, and that's
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Speaker 1: just the truth and growths this is going. There will
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Speaker 1: be a reckoning in reality shows because they are all
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Speaker 1: built on conflict. They pump you full of alcohol on
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Speaker 1: some of these shows. They put you in situations that
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Speaker 1: are stressful as hell. They well, they bring up xes
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Speaker 1: and have them come into They trying to get you
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Speaker 1: to blow up on television.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we do it on a show like this,
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Speaker 2: and that's when we start to get turned off because
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Speaker 2: we like watching actual couples figure things out. And we've
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Speaker 2: actually moved away from this show because it has gotten
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Speaker 2: like that, and we have moved towards like ninety Day Fiance,
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Speaker 2: where you've got people who actually are trying to be
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Speaker 2: together and there are real relationship issues. No one's forcing
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Speaker 2: two people to be together. These are people who want
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Speaker 2: to be together. So it changed it for us. But look,
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Speaker 2: they claim this is by the way, one of the
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Speaker 2: biggest hits on British television. The audience gets to over
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Speaker 2: three million, which is in these days a huge hit show,
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Speaker 2: and they say, look, this is what the show said.
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Speaker 2: They before casting, the carry out psychological checks, They have
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Speaker 2: oversight by a trained welfare team, they have access to
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Speaker 2: psychologists and ongoing support throughout the process. And we see
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Speaker 2: that here in the US version as well. Are they
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Speaker 2: up to eighteen nineteen seasons here in the US? This
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Speaker 2: is a juggernaut of a show. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: the British version had already filmed, cast, filmed their next season,
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Speaker 2: so this would have been season eleven and it's expected
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Speaker 2: at least it was expected to air later this year.
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Speaker 2: Right now, they say no decision has been made on
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Speaker 2: the broadcast of the upcoming season and any decision we
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Speaker 2: take will be made only after this external review has concluded.
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Speaker 2: So they're waiting to see if they can even put
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Speaker 2: this new season on the air.
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Speaker 1: They might literally be going through a process of every
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Speaker 1: single person from day one and having an extensive interview
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Speaker 1: about their experiences to try to figure out if this
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Speaker 1: is I mean, this might be rampant throughout the seasons
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Speaker 1: and they didn't even know it. Oh, so this is
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Speaker 1: a mess.
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Speaker 2: And to your point, when we come back, we're going
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Speaker 2: to tell you about the larger implications of this big
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Speaker 2: expose by the BBC, this documentary that really sent shockwaves
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Speaker 2: through the reality show world. Maybe shock waves for those
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Speaker 2: of us who consume reality shows, but for people who
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Speaker 2: have been a participant in them, they say this was
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Speaker 2: a long time coming. Welcome back everyone to this episode
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Speaker 2: of Amy and TJ. We are talking talking about the
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Speaker 2: rape allegations that have now surfaced in the British version
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Speaker 2: of Married at First Site. It's Married at First Site UK,
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Speaker 2: and three women have come forward. Two of them say
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Speaker 2: they were raped by their on screen husbands. Another one
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Speaker 2: said she suffered an act of sexual misconduct. And look,
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Speaker 2: there are larger implications. First of all, the show's main sponsor,
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Speaker 2: the lead sponsor in Britain in the UK, dropped them,
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Speaker 2: said we're out. That's a big deal. And now the
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Speaker 2: Broadcast Regulator, I guess the British's version of the FCC
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Speaker 2: is now threatening to tighten rules for reality shows. So
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Speaker 2: they're now looking into how they're going to better regulate
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Speaker 2: these shows. And this is what the head of the
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Speaker 2: British version of the FCC said. Sometimes we have these
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Speaker 2: wake up calls where as a country, we just have
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Speaker 2: to go. This has gone too far. We have to
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Speaker 2: be careful, you don't switch everything off. But it is
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Speaker 2: being done in a way that protects people, and so
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Speaker 2: that is interesting. And one of the producers who was
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Speaker 2: on mirriat at first site, it's interesting you were saying
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Speaker 2: this earlier before the break. She said, we can absolutely
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Speaker 2: produce these shows in a safe way if you replace
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Speaker 2: welfare with genuine mental health experts and people who have
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Speaker 2: a background to deal with these complex issues. But that
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Speaker 2: would affect the content. We're not going to see the
15:22
Speaker 2: same type of show. If you want the current content,
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Speaker 2: then no, I don't think they can be made safely
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Speaker 2: in a way that protects everybody involved. Because conflict is
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Speaker 2: what sells these shows.
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Speaker 1: Gotta have it. You're not going to watch two people
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Speaker 1: fall in love no, without conflict. And this conflict is
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Speaker 1: not just getting into an argument a little spat. This
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Speaker 1: is a lot of times ugly stuff robes and they
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Speaker 1: put it in the teas going into commercial and they'll
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Speaker 1: teach you about the fight that is going to happen
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Speaker 1: on the next week's episode. It is intense stuff and
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Speaker 1: I can imagine being thrown into that with a stranger
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Speaker 1: being thrown that with a stranger in private, being thrown
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Speaker 1: that with a stranger in private who's drinking. It's dangerous.
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Speaker 2: I can't actually, now that you think about it, you
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Speaker 2: can't believe it didn't happen before. And look, most of
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Speaker 2: these folks when they're in these bubbles, so to speak,
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Speaker 2: they don't have access to their phones, they don't have
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Speaker 2: access to their friends, they don't have access to their family.
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Speaker 2: They've lost all their support system and all their perspective.
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Speaker 2: And so sometimes these women were even saying, you make
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Speaker 2: choices that you wouldn't have made in the real world.
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Speaker 2: But you're making it because you're feeling the pressure from
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Speaker 2: the producers, the pressure to go along with whatever they
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Speaker 2: want you to for the arc of the show, because
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Speaker 2: it really needs the drama, it needs the ark, and
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Speaker 2: so you're actively participating in it, and you don't have
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Speaker 2: you don't have your people, you don't have your perspective,
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Speaker 2: and so and you're young. A lot of these folks
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Speaker 2: are young, and they're wanting to be stars, and they
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Speaker 2: get themselves into situations they didn't necessarily realize what was happening.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of times two robes they are stirring
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Speaker 1: the pot and wanting to be that person that does
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Speaker 1: stand out. How many times we see in those little confessionals,
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Speaker 1: I am selling something and I am here to spice things.
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Speaker 1: They announced to everybody, I'm going to be the problem
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Speaker 1: and I'm not going to back down from anybody. That shit,
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Speaker 1: it's what you have to do to stand out. Now, Robes,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I am wondering, Robes, if this is it.
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Speaker 1: I know, if this is the thing where you start
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Speaker 1: hearing now story after story after story and people putting
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Speaker 1: their name on it about what's happened to them in
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Speaker 1: these reality shows.
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about we and look, we loved Buried at
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Speaker 2: First Sight for quite some time until it started getting
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Speaker 2: a little it felt like it was getting manufactured.
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Speaker 1: We should know. I think it was season sixteen and
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Speaker 1: we quit because everybody behind the scene we didn't know
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Speaker 1: about it, and the writers and the excuse me, the
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Speaker 1: producer said they didn't. Everyone on the show was manipulating
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Speaker 1: what was happening on cameras to make themselves look better,
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Speaker 1: all right.
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Speaker 2: And then we were like, why am I watching this?
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Speaker 2: I'd rather watch a scripted series with talented actors. The
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Speaker 2: whole point is to watch people struggle with ego and
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Speaker 2: trying to find love, and that's an interesting, fascinating social
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Speaker 2: experiment for sure. But if you think that they're just
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Speaker 2: doing it for a payday for Instagram, to become an
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Speaker 2: influencer and to get ads and paid programming, no, that's
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Speaker 2: not what we want to watch the.
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Speaker 1: Ros If that whole crew that season was able to
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Speaker 1: fool us and fool the production staff, can't they easily
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Speaker 1: fool you in your interview process? Can't they easily somebody
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Speaker 1: sneak in there with bad intentions? Of course they can.
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Speaker 1: So this is this story is why I'm keeping a
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Speaker 1: close eye on this one road.
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Speaker 2: But I am too because and you and I have seen,
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Speaker 2: We have seen, and it seems like they're well intentioned.
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Speaker 2: These psychologists who we love, and we've watched, we've.
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Speaker 1: Interviewed Oh col' cal we love.
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Speaker 2: And doctor Pepper and like, we love all the like
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Speaker 2: and their advice is usually really solid fo yeah, applicable,
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Speaker 2: and we like watching it for that reason. But we
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Speaker 2: have watched them encourage folks to have sex. We have
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Speaker 2: watched them encourage because that is a healthy part of
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Speaker 2: our marriage. Of course it is. That's not bad advice,
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Speaker 2: But do they really know what's going on behind the scenes?
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Speaker 2: Do they really know what's going on when the cameras
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Speaker 2: turn off? Do they really know how these people are
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Speaker 2: treating one another when the cameras aren't rolling.
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Speaker 1: Even the little things they're laying in bed next to
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Speaker 1: each other. We don't know what happens in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the night. If someone inappropriately puts a hand somewhere
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Speaker 1: in the middle.
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Speaker 2: Of these are strangers.
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Speaker 1: He's a complete strangers who are now on TV together
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Speaker 1: told to make a hit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I both know after having had so
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Speaker 2: much experience watching these shows, this absolutely is going to
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Speaker 2: be a game changer. This BBC documentary has just changed
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Speaker 2: the game. So we will continue to monitor this and
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Speaker 2: anyone who loves these types of reality TV shows. Man,
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Speaker 2: I bet you are reckoning is coming and we certainly
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Speaker 2: will be following this glory and we always appreciate you
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Speaker 2: listening to us. As always, I'm Amy Roebuck alongside T. J. Holmes.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.