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Tony Clark resigns, Ken Rosenthal joins, Aaron Judge's candid Yankees quotes, Pablo López out for 2026? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: to Ken Big News Today special segment at the top.
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Speaker 1: Here the Inside Scoop with Ken Rosenthal breaking news this morning,
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Speaker 1: Tony Clark is going to step down as leader of
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Speaker 1: the Players Union. Ken, you broke the story along with
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Speaker 1: Evandralic and Andy McCullough in the Athletic. I encourage everyone
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Speaker 1: to keep checking out that story because it's updating. But
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Speaker 1: what can you tell us about what you initially learned
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Speaker 1: and how it's updated.
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Speaker 4: Okay, so you asked me what we first learned, and
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Speaker 4: we first learned only that Tony Clark was expected to
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Speaker 4: resign as head of the MLBPA. We still don't know
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Speaker 4: the exact particulars, but we just updated our story, and
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Speaker 4: what we said in the story is that Clark was
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Speaker 4: facing growing concerns from players that the Executive Cup Subcommittee
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Speaker 4: that's composed of eight players, eight prominent players who kind
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Speaker 4: of are the big time body in the union. That
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Speaker 4: executive subcommittee had been in contact with federal officials from
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Speaker 4: the FBI the Department of Justice, and evidently something happened
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Speaker 4: in the last twenty four hours or so where things changed.
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Speaker 4: The union was expected to have a meeting and scheduled
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Speaker 4: to have a meeting with the Cleveland Guardians today. That
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Speaker 4: meeting suddenly was canceled last night. That is what got
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Speaker 4: everyone's radar up. And of course this is developing, as
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Speaker 4: you said, Scott, so we don't know all the particulars yet.
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Speaker 4: We don't know what this means regarding the FBI investigation
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Speaker 4: into Clark and the union that was regarding licensing money
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Speaker 4: and all of that. I'm sure we will know more shortly,
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Speaker 4: and then of course we will talk about what this
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Speaker 4: might mean for the Collective Bargating Agreement going forward. The
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Speaker 4: CBA expires December first. We were all anticipating a lockout.
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Speaker 4: That part doesn't change.
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Speaker 2: Ken For the people that don't know, can you explain
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Speaker 2: a little bit what you mean, just just to give
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Speaker 2: people a little bit of background into the investigation that
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Speaker 2: you talked about and stuff like that, just so people
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Speaker 2: have an idea of kind of what this is, what
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Speaker 2: started Maybe all this, We honestly don't know but what
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Speaker 2: that means.
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Speaker 4: This investigation, I don't exactly remember when it started aj
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Speaker 4: but it was into both the MLBPA and the NFLPA,
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Speaker 4: and there were allegations of some financial impropriety regarding licensing money.
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Speaker 4: And I don't know exactly the particulars myself. I haven't
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Speaker 4: been up on that, but that is what was going
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Speaker 4: on now. For the longest time, what people with the
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Speaker 4: union were saying and agents were saying, is that they
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Speaker 4: didn't expect this to lead anywhere, that Clark hadn't done
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Speaker 4: anything wrong, etc. But obviously something happened here. And again
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Speaker 4: we don't know aj the exact particulars, but for players
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Speaker 4: to go to Clark or at least raise these concerns
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Speaker 4: with Clark, at some point he just decided I'm not
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Speaker 4: going to be a distraction here. I'm going to do
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Speaker 4: what is best for the union and step down. At
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Speaker 4: some point came in the last twenty four hours or so.
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Speaker 4: So again I don't want to get too far into
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Speaker 4: speculating what happened, but at the same time, clearly something
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Speaker 4: went amiss here. Now I don't know how much it
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Speaker 4: regards or how much it stems from the investigation. I
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Speaker 4: don't know if it's something else. These are things that
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Speaker 4: we will learn in the coming hours and days.
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Speaker 5: What's next for the Players' Association. What's what's the next
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Speaker 5: step in the sense of you know, this is new news.
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Speaker 5: So obviously they haven't made a change yet, but what
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Speaker 5: is their next process to get a new executive director
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Speaker 5: or to just continue without Tony.
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Speaker 4: They're meeting today and obviously they need a new executive director.
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Speaker 4: And when I say they are meeting, the union's board,
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Speaker 4: the executive subcommittee is meeting. My expectation is that they
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Speaker 4: will simply name the lead negotiator, negotiator, Bruce Meyer, the
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Speaker 4: new executive director of the union. It's the easiest thing
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Speaker 4: for them to do in this critical year of bargaining.
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Speaker 4: It is probably the obvious course. Now I don't know
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Speaker 4: that for a fact. It's speculating, but at the same time,
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Speaker 4: it would seem that's the way to go here. Now
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Speaker 4: they do have to name someone permanently. You can see
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Speaker 4: they're going to have an interim leader and that person
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Speaker 4: will be chosen and then at some point they'll choose
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Speaker 4: a permanent leader. And as Brent Suter told Sam Blum
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Speaker 4: of the athletic. We're not going to get a search going.
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Speaker 6: There's bargaining here.
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Speaker 4: We're going to have it an interim and keep everything
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Speaker 4: as stable as we can this year.
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Speaker 3: And that is why I'm saying Bruce Meyer is.
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Speaker 4: Likely to be the guy at least until this agreement
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Speaker 4: is done or not done. He's going to be the guy,
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Speaker 4: it would seem, and then they'll have to figure some
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Speaker 4: things out. I'm sure they'll have to figure some other
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Speaker 4: things out too as we go along here. This is
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Speaker 4: an incredibly jarring development for the union. And I know
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Speaker 4: fans are asking, and I'm getting asked this by a lot,
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Speaker 4: even by people in the game. Will this help or
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Speaker 4: hurt the chances of a workstopage not occurring? And to me,
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Speaker 4: it's not going to necessarily help. The owners are going
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Speaker 4: to do what they're going to do. The players are
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Speaker 4: going to react how they're going to react. Tony Clark
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Speaker 4: was not simply the only person in the union saying
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Speaker 4: we don't want a salary cap. It's the entire union
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Speaker 4: saying that. So clearly, when you have your leadership in disarray,
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Speaker 4: that's a problem. No one would deny that. But at
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Speaker 4: the same time, do I expect the union's positions to
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Speaker 4: change at all.
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Speaker 2: Ken. You kind of said this is a defining moment
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Speaker 2: or a big moment for the for the Players Association.
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Speaker 2: My question is is.
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Speaker 6: Did anyone see this coming?
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Speaker 2: Because players, I'm in Royles camp and I've talked to
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Speaker 2: players here. We saw a suitor come out, Marcus Simons
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Speaker 2: come out, and both have said we had no idea.
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Speaker 2: We learned on Instagram or we learned from Ken Rosenthal
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Speaker 2: and Evan Dreulk when they posted this for the Athletic.
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Speaker 2: So how I mean, just explain the magnitude of how
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Speaker 2: shocking that this is. That in a negotiating year, the
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Speaker 2: first day when the Players Association goes around and meets
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Speaker 2: with the teams, which people at home, they go around
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Speaker 2: to meet with each team in spring training, they usually
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Speaker 2: hand out your licensing checks. Now this year they're probably
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Speaker 2: withholding almost all of it because of the ongoing labor
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Speaker 2: strife that could air could not happen, just so they
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Speaker 2: have like a war chest developed. Just explain the magnitude
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Speaker 2: this because I even went on X and was like,
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Speaker 2: holy crap, this is a huge deal, especially with the
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Speaker 2: timing of it. So explain just how large this is.
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Speaker 4: It's large, and it's especially large, as I said, because
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Speaker 4: of the timing aga we are months away from where
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Speaker 4: the negotiations would probably begin in earnest and when the
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Speaker 4: union loses its leader. Think of it from MLB's perspective,
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Speaker 4: if Rob Manford suddenly stepped down, it's kind of the
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Speaker 4: equivalent of that. Now that said, it's going to be
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Speaker 4: really interesting to see how the union reacts. And I
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Speaker 4: am sure and Brent Suter said this this morning, and
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Speaker 4: others are going to say this as well, that they
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Speaker 4: feel they're going to come out of this stronger, that
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Speaker 4: they will somehow unite and kind of reinforce to each
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Speaker 4: other what this is all about for them. Again, that's true.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure it is true that they will talk like that,
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Speaker 4: and they may even believe that. But when you have
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Speaker 4: your leadership in disarray, there's no question that it is
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Speaker 4: a problem, and that is.
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Speaker 6: Where they are.
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Speaker 4: They've got to get that figured out first. I imagine
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Speaker 4: they will in relatively short order. But a JO when
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Speaker 4: you're asking how big this is, there's no question it's big,
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Speaker 4: and it's true. Also, as you mentioned that players were
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Speaker 4: shocked and people were shocked by this. Today this was
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Speaker 4: a stunning development because no one really did see it coming.
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Speaker 4: We've known he was under investigation by the FBI, that
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Speaker 4: has been out there for quite some time now, but
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Speaker 4: it did not seem, at least from the outside, that
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Speaker 4: the investigation was proceeding in a meaningful fashion to the
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Speaker 4: point where he would be the subject of an indictment.
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Speaker 4: There has not been an indictment issued, So again, I
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Speaker 4: want to stress this. I'm not exactly sure what happened here,
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Speaker 4: but I will repeat he was facing growing concerns from players,
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Speaker 4: and the players have been in contact their executive subcommittee
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Speaker 4: with federal officials. Something came to a head.
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Speaker 5: What is Major League Baseball's view of Bruce Meyer as
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Speaker 5: a negotiator? Is it a contentious view? Is it something
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Speaker 5: that if he steps into this role he was a
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Speaker 5: negotiator in the last CBA, But if he steps into
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Speaker 5: this role as interim or whatever, is this a good
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Speaker 5: relationship or is it a little butting of heads?
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Speaker 3: Butting of heads?
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Speaker 4: I don't know that MLB loves negotiating with Bruce Meyer,
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Speaker 4: and I don't know that Bruce Meyer loves negotiating with MLB.
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Speaker 3: And it was a tough negotiation.
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Speaker 4: The last time, and if you remember, the Executive subcommittee
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Speaker 4: voted to reject that deal again, that's that eight player
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Speaker 4: committee that kind of stands at the head of the union,
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Speaker 4: and then the general player population voted to approve it.
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Speaker 4: Bruce Meyer is going to represent their interests, I'm sure,
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Speaker 4: one way or the other.
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Speaker 3: And he is a tough negotiator. That is his job
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Speaker 3: to be a really tough negotiator.
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Speaker 4: So I don't know that MLB sees him as someone
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Speaker 4: who is going to be easy to deal with.
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Speaker 3: I would say it's just the opposite.
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Speaker 6: Ken.
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Speaker 2: I know that everyone's coming out saying it's not going
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Speaker 2: to change anything. He wasn't the only guy on it,
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Speaker 2: but it has to change something, right. It still has
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Speaker 2: to change something right. I know they're gonna Brussell. Bruce
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Speaker 2: has been doing a lot of the negotiating and a
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Speaker 2: lot of the people under Tony or staying the same.
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Speaker 2: But anytime it would be I can't even explain this
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Speaker 2: to people on home, Like Michael Wiener was the guy
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Speaker 2: before Tony Clark. He had Don Fear and then you
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Speaker 2: had Michael Wiener. Right, Michael Wiener passed away from brain cancer,
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Speaker 2: which is a horrible story. Tony took over, and those
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Speaker 2: were shocking. When Don Fear stepped down was shocking, Michael Wiener,
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Speaker 2: than Tony Clark takes over. Now, we don't know in
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Speaker 2: a negotiating year. I just can't explain how important. And
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Speaker 2: you can say, oh, it's not gonna change anything. It's
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Speaker 2: changing something, Okay, So that's it. That's my comment. This
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Speaker 2: sucks for the It sucks for the Players Association because now,
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Speaker 2: in a time when they should be more united than ever,
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Speaker 2: not only are they fighting a battle on the pr
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Speaker 2: they're fighting a battle against the owners. Now they have
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Speaker 2: to find a new leader. So there's just a lot
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Speaker 2: happening in a time when you're supposed to be like this.
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Speaker 6: Hey, there's no question. Now, is it possible they do
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Speaker 6: come out better for it?
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Speaker 4: If Tony Clark was doing things that were unethical, illegal,
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Speaker 4: whatever the case might be, of course it is, and
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Speaker 4: of course that could ultimately lead them to a better place,
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Speaker 4: there's no doubt about that. But at the same time,
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Speaker 4: we don't know exactly what was going on. And you're right,
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Speaker 4: they are scrambling now, and they're scrambling at a time
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Speaker 4: when they should not be scrambling.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 4: They also have been aware of this investigation for months.
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Speaker 4: As I said, the Executive Subcommittee was in contact with
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Speaker 4: federal officials, So from that perspective, they could not have
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Speaker 4: been that surprised. They certainly were surprised by the timing.
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Speaker 4: But it's not as if this is something that came
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Speaker 4: out of nowhere. That investigation has been going on. We've
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Speaker 4: all been aware of that. It's just that we were
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Speaker 4: not aware that this was going to come to a
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Speaker 4: head anytime soon. So, AJ, You're absolutely right. And as
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Speaker 4: I said before, and I'll repeat it again, this is
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Speaker 4: the equivalent of Manford stepping down from the owner's side,
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Speaker 4: from Major League Baseball side. Tony Clark was the head
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Speaker 4: of the union. There's no sugarcoating that that's who he
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Speaker 4: is and was. So again, players are meeting later today.
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Speaker 4: There's going to be more to come with this. But
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Speaker 4: the only thing I would caution fans and people about
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Speaker 4: is the idea that somehow this is going to make
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Speaker 4: a lockout less likely. No, a lockout is coming. How
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Speaker 4: this affects the player's views, I'm not sure that really
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Speaker 4: will be impacted either, because, simply put, the players are
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Speaker 4: fairly strong, at least right now, as the owners are
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Speaker 4: fairly strong at least right now in where they are
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Speaker 4: now ultimately without their leader. How does that all play out?
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Speaker 6: We'll see.
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Speaker 5: I saw the end of Donald Fear's time. I saw
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Speaker 5: the short period that Michael Wiener was there, the way
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Speaker 5: that they spoke, the way the lawyers. It was my
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Speaker 5: first introduction into it. Then I played pretty much through
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Speaker 5: Tony's entire time as executive director. How are we going
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Speaker 5: to look back at his time as executive director of
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Speaker 5: the Union successful? I'm sure we'll see where this ends
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Speaker 5: up going this time.
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Speaker 4: Well, this is going to be his legacy, or at
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Speaker 4: least part of it. What happened here and is happening
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Speaker 4: here today. That he ultimately stepped down for reasons that
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Speaker 4: we will find out about in short order. I don't
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Speaker 4: know that he will be viewed in retrospect as a
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Speaker 4: great leader of the union. Don Fear was a great
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Speaker 4: leader of the union. Michael Wiener was a great leader
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Speaker 4: until he got sick. His last CBA was not as
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Speaker 4: good as some of the others had been. Tony Clark
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Speaker 4: presided over a couple of cbas if I'm not mistaken,
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Speaker 4: that were criticized heavily.
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Speaker 6: The last one.
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Speaker 3: I thought they did okay, but.
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Speaker 4: There's some things that they aren't getting back and haven't
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Speaker 4: gotten back. So Eric, you're asking me this at a
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Speaker 4: time when the story is still kind of the and
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Speaker 4: I don't really have a great feel yet for how
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Speaker 4: he'll be regarded. But someone mentioned to me this morning
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Speaker 4: that this, this resignation, this sequence of events will be
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Speaker 4: part of his legacy, part of his enduring legacy, and
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Speaker 4: that ultimately might be what defines his time with the Union.
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Speaker 3: We will see.
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Speaker 1: Ken just a couple more at the finish line here,
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Speaker 1: because we also did get Trek Scooble chatting at Tiger's
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Speaker 1: camp kind of alluding to it. Seemed like how he said,
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Speaker 1: Tony's been the face the PA in terms of negotiating.
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Speaker 1: I'm still as confident ever in Bruce and everyone else
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Speaker 1: we've got behind him again, kind of talking as if
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Speaker 1: they're going to make Bruce Meyer the next guy in charge.
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Speaker 3: So two more here at the finish line.
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Speaker 1: One is do you think that there's any concern that
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Speaker 1: if Tony Clark, you know, eventually gets in trouble for
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Speaker 1: doing something that hurt the players Union, that they need
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Speaker 1: to figure out a better strategy going forward of I
16:54
Speaker 1: don't know, checks and balances or just making sure that
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Speaker 1: something like this doesn't happen, because we've seen this happen
16:59
Speaker 1: in other year unions lately too.
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Speaker 4: Yes, there is definitely, I would say that feeling among
17:06
Speaker 4: players right now that they needed to take care of
17:10
Speaker 4: some things, they needed to find some things out, they
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Speaker 4: need to go in a more in a different direction
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Speaker 4: going forward. And from that perspective, if indeed they learned
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Speaker 4: from this and if indeed there are some things that
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Speaker 4: they can clean up correct whatever the case might be,
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Speaker 4: then yes, it ultimately will be a positive.
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Speaker 1: Can appreciate the time. We'll bring it to the players
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Speaker 1: here for the rest, you can get back to your thing.
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Speaker 3: Everyone.
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Speaker 1: Please check out The Athletic and Ken's article as it'll
17:40
Speaker 1: get updated, probably again as we learn more about this story.
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Speaker 3: Ken, thank you appreciate it.
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Speaker 6: Thanks guys. Yeah, that's what he said.
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Speaker 8: our centerfielder, be able toad off guy for another year,
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Speaker 8: and then you had a guy like Goldie some of
18:53
Speaker 8: the back end, you know, bullpen pieces that we've been doing.
18:55
Speaker 8: I think I think we're being a good spot. But
18:58
Speaker 8: early on it was pretty pretty tough to watch. I'm like, man,
19:01
Speaker 8: we're the We're the New York Yankees. You know, let's
19:03
Speaker 8: go out there and get the right people, get the
19:05
Speaker 8: right pieces to go out there and and finish this
19:08
Speaker 8: thing off because we've got to We've got a special
19:09
Speaker 8: group of players here. We've got a good core, good
19:11
Speaker 8: young cores. So it was frustrating, but I think we're
19:15
Speaker 8: right were we need to be.
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Speaker 3: Did you express any of that to them?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, But but they took care of business, and
19:25
Speaker 9: I wished my opinion about a couple of guys, and
19:27
Speaker 9: you know, Bellinger being one of the guys that he
19:30
Speaker 9: just adds a dynamic to this team that you know,
19:33
Speaker 9: we've been missing for quite a few years.
19:34
Speaker 3: So excited, you know, excited he's back. Wow.
19:42
Speaker 1: Usually don't get that from him. He was bringing it.
19:44
Speaker 1: And then they even asked on the follow up if
19:47
Speaker 1: he made his opinions known, and he did. I'm proud
19:51
Speaker 1: of him. I mean, Pratt, you can go first just
19:53
Speaker 1: because you played with him. I mean, you know how
19:56
Speaker 1: judge he is. He usually doesn't give you much publicly,
20:00
Speaker 1: but he was like, yeah, I was pissed. I mean,
20:02
Speaker 1: my prime bring it. But then he was happy when
20:05
Speaker 1: we got to the end of the offseason. I mean,
20:07
Speaker 1: Yankee fans feel like they're running a similar position player
20:10
Speaker 1: group back. But I do want to make that part
20:12
Speaker 1: clear because I think some of the headlines were like
20:14
Speaker 1: Judge pissed about off season.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you gotta.
20:16
Speaker 1: Watch the whole clip. That's why we played the whole clip.
20:18
Speaker 1: He was pissed in the beginning, voiced his concerns. They
20:21
Speaker 1: were like, we're good, and then they did what he
20:24
Speaker 1: felt was satisfactory.
20:28
Speaker 3: Up hold on crats. We got the mute action again.
20:32
Speaker 3: We got gremlins, all right, aj you got.
20:36
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, good for a Judge saying this. But
20:39
Speaker 2: at the end, again, like you said, Scott, he was
20:41
Speaker 2: happy they brought all the boys back together. They brought
20:43
Speaker 2: Bellinger back, and hey, they'll make another run with the
20:46
Speaker 2: squad ad Garrett Cole, Bill Penn's a little bit different
20:49
Speaker 2: than it was at the start last year. But hey, Darren,
20:51
Speaker 2: Judge Gotwady wanted, he got Bellinger back, he got Goldtman back,
20:55
Speaker 2: and we'll see what this team can do with another
20:57
Speaker 2: year under their belt.
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Speaker 1: Do you like that a player makes a phone call
21:02
Speaker 1: like that? And do you think that it matters.
21:06
Speaker 2: Depends on who the player is. Depends on who the
21:09
Speaker 2: player is. If your twenty six guy calls the owner
21:12
Speaker 2: of the GM it doesn't matter that much. But when
21:14
Speaker 2: someone like Aaron Judges won a bunch of MVPs and
21:17
Speaker 2: led the league in homers and done all these things,
21:19
Speaker 2: it matters.
21:22
Speaker 3: All right, crats, I want to try otherwise we'll reset
21:24
Speaker 3: you in a second. Yeah, you're definitely trying.
21:26
Speaker 5: The fact that knowing Aaron Judge, not as a public figure,
21:31
Speaker 5: as a teammate gives me a different view of him.
21:35
Speaker 5: You know, you don't hear this from him, but that
21:38
Speaker 5: that was like, honest, normal, every day Aaron Judge like
21:43
Speaker 5: he's one of the guys. He wants the team to
21:46
Speaker 5: be the best they can possibly be. Exactly what he said.
21:50
Speaker 6: Was so true were the New York Yankees.
21:53
Speaker 5: And he was not saying people who are like, oh
21:55
Speaker 5: he hates the moves that were made. It's not at
21:58
Speaker 5: all what he said. He hated the fact that there
22:00
Speaker 5: was dudes going off the board.
22:02
Speaker 6: That was like, like.
22:04
Speaker 5: I could help us, what other guys, what other guys
22:07
Speaker 5: can we get to help us? Like he's looking, he's
22:10
Speaker 5: looking through a lens of how can the Yankees be
22:14
Speaker 5: the best it can possibly be? When I'm on the team.
22:17
Speaker 5: And I kind of even hinted at He's like, well,
22:19
Speaker 5: they got Tran grishon for another year. That's you know,
22:23
Speaker 5: he would have probably liked somebody that's going to be
22:25
Speaker 5: there for the next four years while he's still there
22:27
Speaker 5: for the next four years.
22:28
Speaker 6: But I think.
22:29
Speaker 5: Cashman's done a really good job through Aaron Judge's tenure
22:34
Speaker 5: of trying to find guys that they feel are valuable and.
22:38
Speaker 6: Then going to get them.
22:40
Speaker 5: This offseason, it just wasn't that big, never been a
22:43
Speaker 5: Yankee type of signing for them, But they did bring
22:47
Speaker 5: back a guy who is a huge piece and I
22:49
Speaker 5: think was one of the most versatile pieces in the
22:52
Speaker 5: free agent market, and Cody Billinger.
22:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you sum it all up and it seems
23:00
Speaker 1: like he's okay.
23:01
Speaker 3: Now.
23:01
Speaker 1: I like that he's comfortable in his spot so he
23:04
Speaker 1: can go right back to the Yanks and be like, hey,
23:05
Speaker 1: what are we doing. Do I think it actually made
23:07
Speaker 1: a difference.
23:08
Speaker 3: No.
23:08
Speaker 1: I think they had their game plan in place, and
23:11
Speaker 1: it takes time to sign these guys, and by the
23:13
Speaker 1: end of the off season they got to what they
23:15
Speaker 1: wanted with Bellinger, who obviously took a while. It took
23:18
Speaker 1: almost the entire offseason to figure that out, but they did, and.
23:23
Speaker 6: He could be nervous.
23:24
Speaker 5: He could be nervous like he was honest, he could
23:25
Speaker 5: have been nervous during that time, Like, holy crap, I
23:28
Speaker 5: just see because right before that, you see Bregman.
23:30
Speaker 6: He goes right before that.
23:32
Speaker 5: Leave Boston and go to Chicago.
23:34
Speaker 6: He's like, we don't.
23:36
Speaker 5: Get Bellinger, who are we going to get? So yeah,
23:38
Speaker 5: I love that he's being honest. He was a little
23:40
Speaker 5: nervous at a certain.
23:41
Speaker 1: Point, and now here we are Judge back in camp.
23:48
Speaker 1: Looks like also, just real quick, last thing on the Yanks.
23:51
Speaker 1: I mean, Cole might pitch in some spring training games.
23:53
Speaker 1: He's not going to start the season, but he might
23:56
Speaker 1: get some action later in spring right on. Looks like
23:58
Speaker 1: he's on a good pay so they might quickly have
24:02
Speaker 1: a really nice rotation in place.
24:03
Speaker 3: That was I think the biggest concern.
24:05
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone has regular season concerns with this
24:07
Speaker 1: team on offense, but with the pitching staff. You're like, hey,
24:10
Speaker 1: how many guys are they going to be down early
24:11
Speaker 1: on in the year. It sounds like it won't be
24:14
Speaker 1: too bad for too long. Things can change. Spring training
24:17
Speaker 1: just started, but good to put that out there, all right,
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Speaker 1: that would often lead the show, there's been a lot
24:41
Speaker 1: of news today. The Twins hope they're being cautious with
24:44
Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez, who exited his Live BP early with elbow soreness.
24:49
Speaker 1: Derek Shelton, their manager, said Lopez would go for an MRI.
24:52
Speaker 1: That's the tweet from Dan Hayes. I will add to
24:56
Speaker 1: that with Aaron Gleeman's tweet from a few hours ago.
24:59
Speaker 1: He said Pablo Lopez has a torn elbow ligament. Surgery
25:04
Speaker 1: is very much on the table, according to Twins general
25:07
Speaker 1: manager Jeremy zol. Gleaman said if surgery is needed, Lopez
25:12
Speaker 1: would miss the entire season. AJ this is absolutely potentially
25:17
Speaker 1: devastating news for Pablo and for a Twins team that
25:21
Speaker 1: I didn't think and most people didn't think, we're going
25:23
Speaker 1: to be good.
25:24
Speaker 3: But I mean, can.
25:25
Speaker 1: They survive without their first or second best starter? Right
25:30
Speaker 1: it's it's Joe, Ryan.
25:31
Speaker 2: And Pablo don't survive with him. I don't feel like
25:34
Speaker 2: we've talked about it. We don't think that they're going
25:36
Speaker 2: to be that competitive this year with him. To lose
25:39
Speaker 2: him though, I me an injury suck. That's an understanding
25:41
Speaker 2: for Twins, the Twins fans, and the Twins organization and Pablo.
25:46
Speaker 2: I just feel like this is why, you know, there
25:51
Speaker 2: had been trade talks about him and Joe Ryan and
25:53
Speaker 2: things like that, and in Pablo has to miss a
25:55
Speaker 2: bunch of time. Man, it's just now it's at least
25:58
Speaker 2: another year. Then you got to get him back and
26:01
Speaker 2: he's got to prove he's healthy. Oh this stinks, man.
26:04
Speaker 2: But do you know what I feel most of it
26:05
Speaker 2: for Pablo Lopez because he's such a good guy and
26:08
Speaker 2: he works his tail off and he's just a great
26:11
Speaker 2: interview and a great human being. This just sucks for
26:14
Speaker 2: just see, guys have to go through this, and I
26:15
Speaker 2: hope we're hoping for the best, But not sounded like
26:19
Speaker 2: it's going to be the greatest news.
26:21
Speaker 5: I would definitely say that could be something else from
26:24
Speaker 5: this too. Most organizations, you lose the number one or
26:27
Speaker 5: number two, got to scramble, gotta find out who's on
26:30
Speaker 5: the free agent market. Does this put the hopes of
26:35
Speaker 5: winning the amount of games that they wanted to win.
26:37
Speaker 5: They say they want to still be competitive. You know,
26:40
Speaker 5: obviously it's my opinion that they're not trying to be competitive.
26:44
Speaker 5: Does this mean they're like, all right now, completely scrap
26:48
Speaker 5: it down. We lost one of our top two pitchers
26:51
Speaker 5: who they could have traded at some point anyway, you know,
26:54
Speaker 5: Or does this say no, we cannot get rid of
26:58
Speaker 5: Joe Ryan now because we need somebody he wants every
27:00
Speaker 5: five days to be that consistent veteran in the rotation.
27:04
Speaker 1: Well, they're not trading Joe Ryan yet, they're going to
27:06
Speaker 1: trade him at the trade deadline because the new.
27:12
Speaker 2: I agree, you are taking the risk, but he doesn't
27:15
Speaker 2: get more value.
27:16
Speaker 1: I know, but I know you played for the pole Ads.
27:18
Speaker 1: But we're like generations down at this point. So now
27:20
Speaker 1: it's Tom instead of Joe, and he is running ship
27:23
Speaker 1: and he's more involved in it.
27:26
Speaker 3: I should reset if this was how they were treating things.
27:30
Speaker 1: They acted like they were going all in again, but
27:32
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything. Tom Polad has openly said again
27:36
Speaker 1: and again now because he's being more public, I give
27:38
Speaker 1: him credit there, but he's like, we were pursuing fram Rivaldez.
27:41
Speaker 1: So apparently they were pursuing frem Rivaldez, but nobody else
27:44
Speaker 1: even close to that ilk in the free agent game,
27:46
Speaker 1: so it was just framber or bust apparently. So if
27:50
Speaker 1: that's the case, first of all, Lucas Giolito online one,
27:53
Speaker 1: any other Starter max sures are online two, you should
27:56
Speaker 1: just rack all those because combined they'll cost less than
27:58
Speaker 1: frem Rivaldez. But I mean he went on the records
28:01
Speaker 1: either I think it was today or yesterday, and they
28:04
Speaker 1: the reporting out there is brilliant. You guys know, Dan
28:06
Speaker 1: Hayes is great, Iron Gleiman's great. They told him and
28:10
Speaker 1: others they told him about the over under for the
28:12
Speaker 1: Twins at seventy three and a half, and the owner
28:14
Speaker 1: was like, that's.
28:14
Speaker 3: Ridiculous, is it?
28:18
Speaker 6: No? I mean.
28:21
Speaker 3: Probably close to that number, Scott.
28:25
Speaker 2: Ten guys they treated away. They treated away ten guys
28:30
Speaker 2: that were good players last year, so they didn't bring
28:33
Speaker 2: in ten.
28:33
Speaker 5: You guys, we give, we get, we give a we
28:38
Speaker 5: we give a hard time to teams who don't land
28:41
Speaker 5: free agents, but they say they're in on them. Part
28:44
Speaker 5: of that is, like the pole heads need to understand.
28:47
Speaker 5: You create an environment where players want to go to
28:50
Speaker 5: you create an environment where you're like, I want to
28:53
Speaker 5: play with that guy. They had that they had that
28:55
Speaker 5: they brought in Carlos Kore and then they stopped playing.
28:58
Speaker 5: They stopped playing in the free agent mar stop spending.
29:01
Speaker 5: So maybe they were in on Framber. Maybe there was
29:04
Speaker 5: somebody else we didn't know about, but like the ah,
29:08
Speaker 5: woe is us, we couldn't get him. Create an environment
29:11
Speaker 5: of where somebody wants to go and you know what,
29:14
Speaker 5: the money that you're supposedly going out there to spend
29:17
Speaker 5: or not spend, they'll accept it because it's a place
29:19
Speaker 5: where people want to play.
29:29
Speaker 1: Hey, we have an MVP candidate that was part of
29:32
Speaker 1: the show today in Bobby wit Junior. So we figured,
29:35
Speaker 1: let's look at the ALE MVP candidates on the bet
29:38
Speaker 1: MGM futures in terms of where the.
29:40
Speaker 3: Trends are swaying.
29:42
Speaker 1: Highest ticket percentage belongs to Roman Anthony, the Red Sox rookie,
29:46
Speaker 1: highest handle percentages, and where's the most money flowing, not
29:51
Speaker 1: just each particular bet being placed.
29:53
Speaker 3: That's Judge, So.
29:55
Speaker 1: Thirty five percent going to Judge Anthony is the biggest liability,
29:59
Speaker 1: and Judge the odds leader at plus two hundred. Look
30:02
Speaker 1: at Roman Anthony getting a lot of love.
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Speaker 5: AJ plus a plus two at plus two thousand. I
30:11
Speaker 5: can't hear AJ right now, but they'll get him back
30:13
Speaker 5: plus two thousand. For Roman Anthony, it was it was
30:17
Speaker 5: enticing for me, that's for sure. But I just put
30:20
Speaker 5: it down.
30:21
Speaker 6: He was just on the show. I just put down
30:24
Speaker 6: plus five hundred. For Bobby Witt. I feel like.
30:26
Speaker 5: There's the base running aspect that you brought up with him,
30:30
Speaker 5: like there's some value there that he's always been. He's
30:34
Speaker 5: always been up there in that conversation, you know, oh,
30:36
Speaker 5: you know, an incredible year by Aaron Judge. If it
30:39
Speaker 5: wasn't for him, if he was in the National League,
30:42
Speaker 5: or if he was in America, whatever it is, Bobby
30:44
Speaker 5: WIT's always there. I feel like this is the age
30:47
Speaker 5: the time the team built around him a little bit different.
30:51
Speaker 6: This is the year Bobby Witt MVP.
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Speaker 2: Agreed he was going to be mine. He was going
30:57
Speaker 2: to be mine. But here's the problem. I've said that,
31:00
Speaker 2: and whatever, if cal Rawly didn't win it hitting sixty
31:03
Speaker 2: homers as a catcher and playing every day getting his
31:05
Speaker 2: team to the postseason, if Aaron Judge just goes out
31:07
Speaker 2: and as his normal Aaron, Judge ear, how do you
31:10
Speaker 2: beat that? And I think Bobby Wick could be a
31:12
Speaker 2: guy that could could do it. And after talking to
31:15
Speaker 2: him and learning about what he's done and seeing him,
31:19
Speaker 2: I think, you know, moving the fences in whatever. But
31:21
Speaker 2: his defense is so good, his base running can be
31:24
Speaker 2: so good. He can hit homers, he can hit for average,
31:27
Speaker 2: he can do a lot of things. So I think
31:29
Speaker 2: he has a chance. And he's not even on there,
31:32
Speaker 2: but Roman Anthony, that's a lot of pressure to put
31:34
Speaker 2: on a young guy. I think, Judge Wit, you know,
31:38
Speaker 2: and there'll be someone else from the outside that comes
31:40
Speaker 2: in and jumps in that conversation. I don't know who
31:42
Speaker 2: it's going to be because I don't think anybody would
31:44
Speaker 2: have said it would have been cal Rawley last year,
31:46
Speaker 2: So there'll be someone else, But yeah, Judge and Witt
31:48
Speaker 2: would be my two.
31:51
Speaker 1: I think it's become such a war game wins above replacement.
31:55
Speaker 1: So it does give Bobby a good shot because he's
31:59
Speaker 1: in all around right, the defense, the base running, the power,
32:05
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32:07
Speaker 3: He's got it all.
32:08
Speaker 1: And I think that helps because it's an all encompassing
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Speaker 1: So if he has one of those years where it's
32:16
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32:18
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32:22
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