Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Evan Williams Bottled in Bond and a Surprise that we weren't quite ready for.
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- 0:00Incredible flavours, even better stories.
- 0:05One more, 10 minutes.
- 0:07Aussie bourbon lovers, sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:15I know, it's silent.
- 0:16You didn't even do it really loudly.
- 0:18It's a screw cap. I know.
- 0:20So there's no delightful pop to start tonight's podcast.
- 0:23No, but Dave's going to tell us what we're drinking tonight.
- 0:25This isn't Evan Williams bottled in bond.
- 0:28It's the Evan Williams white label, which I was surprised to find in
- 0:33Australia, but it's easy to find in the US.
- 0:35I think I just heard someone say it's the most popular or most sold-
- 0:41Most sold bottle in Bond.
- 0:43Anyway. Cheers.
- 0:45All right, let's begin with H.
- 0:49Tell me about what do you know about this one?
- 0:51Well, I know it's a Bottled in Bond, which, don't quiz me on it,
- 0:56but it's got a lot of ones.
- 0:59One distil Distiller, one distillery, and one distilling season.
- 1:05It has to all meet those rules.
- 1:06Bottled in Bond has a lot of rules.
- 1:08I don't know if that's all of them.
- 1:09It has to be exactly 100 proof. Oh, yes.
- 1:11Another number one with two zeros.
- 1:13But it's all one, one, one, one, one.
- 1:15That's how I remember it.
- 1:16I know there's more rules, but they're the ones I remember.
- 1:18One Distilling Season, one Distiller, one Distillery, and 100 proof.
- 1:22Okay.
- 1:23You can fact check us on that.
- 1:24One Distiller, one Distiller, you sound like the same thing to me.
- 1:27All right, let's go with it.
- 1:28So what are you getting on the nose?
- 1:31Let's go with... Can I start with...
- 1:32I think this is somewhere between 15 and 30 US dollars for a bottle.
- 1:35So this is not an expensive-No, this is a very affordable...
- 1:39Get yourself a nice bottle of whiskey.
- 1:41Well, get yourself a bottle of bottle of whiskey, right?
- 1:45Yeah.
- 1:47What are you getting?
- 1:48I'm getting lots of caramel. Are you?
- 1:51Yeah. I'm getting like a nuttiness.
- 1:53Like a vanilla pod.
- 1:54We said this recently, the nuttiness thing, but like, yeah,
- 1:59it's a good bit of wood.
- 2:00Yeah, there's definitely smoke there. Okay.
- 2:03Have a taste, Dave.
- 2:05Tell us what you got.
- 2:08That's delightful.
- 2:12You sound surprised.
- 2:14It's so Just effective.
- 2:17That is so much better than I was expecting that to be, actually.
- 2:20Because I've heard people say this is such a good go-to.
- 2:23Everyone should get a bottle of it.
- 2:25But look how boring the label is.
- 2:27You know how I bang on that? It's boring labels.
- 2:29It's It's simple. It's affordable.
- 2:31I don't even know where to put it. Goodness, that's tasty.
- 2:33That is delicious.
- 2:34That has exactly the right amount of vanilla and caramel-y.
- 2:39Yeah, it's very desserty.
- 2:41But for an affordable whiskey, that's really good.
- 2:45I'm sorry that I'm so surprised.
- 2:47I think this is my first time having this.
- 2:49It's buttery or something.
- 2:52The mouth feels great.
- 2:53It's definitely desserty for me.
- 2:55It's got that like…
- 2:56When you're delicious. But I would…
- 2:59Yeah, I'd love to have this in a blind tasting, I reckon.
- 3:02Because I reckon it would really confuse you with a more expensive one.
- 3:08But it'd be interesting to compare them because that is really delicious.
- 3:15I think I thought I was going to get something pretty rough around the edges
- 3:19because of how cost-effective it is.
- 3:21Well, it's the most solid bottle in pond, so it's got to be good.
- 3:24That speaks for itself, really.
- 3:25Could be stated with the price tag.
- 3:28The DSP That's on there is DSP1, DSP KY1.
- 3:33But that's for Heaven and Hell Distillery. Correct.
- 3:36Yeah, which I didn't realise that were DSP1.
- 3:38Can you remind us what DSP KY1 means?
- 3:41It's like what distillery number they are.
- 3:44But then There was Prohibition, and they had to go back, and some of them
- 3:47got their original numbers again. Some of them didn't.
- 3:51But every distillery is registered, and they have a number.
- 3:54And so that, obviously, was the first one.
- 3:57Dsp stands for Distilled Spirits Plant.
- 4:00Ky is the state, and then the number is the national number.
- 4:04I'm fairly sure that's right. I'm pretty sure.
- 4:06So DSP-KY1 means it's the first distil spirits plant ever to be given a number.
- 4:11Yeah. Pretty cool.
- 4:13I know.
- 4:14This is the stuff that I love, the history of-The random stuff.
- 4:17That's a pretty cool one to have, number one.
- 4:20Yeah.
- 4:20And it goes with the theme of tonight, one, one, one, one,
- 4:30What I was like, Oh, it's probably not going to be much good.
- 4:31I'm not too worried about it.
- 4:32But now I think I'll- You could pour yourself some more.
- 4:35We're only four minutes in there.
- 4:37Pour yourself another.
- 4:38I'm genuinely taken aback by how good that is.
- 4:42He had all this stuff planned to say, and now he's gobsmacked about how good it is.
- 4:47Part of the thing that really throws me on this, so it's a plastic screw cap.
- 4:52It's the screw cap you find at a Coke bottle.
- 4:55I'm not even being rude. It just is.
- 4:57No, it doesn't It doesn't say super fancy, super delicious.
- 5:03It's just super affordable and it is really delightful.
- 5:08Yeah. I mean, there's other bourbons I prefer.
- 5:11Is this easy to get in Australia or not?
- 5:13Well, I think I was surprised that I could get it, so maybe not.
- 5:18Although I wonder if it's...
- 5:20Maybe it's just because I haven't been looking for it or when I've
- 5:21seen it, I've ignored it.
- 5:22I'd say this is going to be one of these ones where you can get
- 5:25it online pretty easy.
- 5:26But I think you wouldn't walk into a normal-Dance and just pick it up.
- 5:30I think you wouldn't. I'm happy you're told that I'm wrong.
- 5:33Why don't we have it out here?
- 5:35I don't know.
- 5:37Do you know what the problem I think it is?
- 5:40Look how much that looks like a Jim Beam white label.
- 5:42Yeah, that is true.
- 5:44That looks a lot like a- I don't get it into focus.
- 5:46Just from a distance, it's the square bottle with a white label on it.
- 5:53Yeah, and it's got the neck on it.
- 5:54It's very similar to the Jim Beam.
- 5:56Yeah, it does have a very Jim Beam-esque look.
- 6:00Maybe it's just- I can't believe how good that tastes.
- 6:02I am so embarrassed that that's on our shelf unopened.
- 6:07It's the first pour we're having out of it.
- 6:09It's my suggestion for tonight's podcast, and I'm really glad we opened it.
- 6:12I have a sneaking suspicion that is not going to last that long.
- 6:16I have a sneaking suspicion.
- 6:17I'm going to be sure I get a few more bottles of it.
- 6:18The photo for the thumbnail will be a full bottle, Dave.
- 6:22Well, depending on how much you drink in the next five minutes.
- 6:24You're right. It'll be a full bottle.
- 6:25Can't we pour some more?
- 6:26No, this is great.
- 6:28Why did they do bottle in Bond, Do you know any information about that?
- 6:32Yeah. Have I spoken about this before or not?
- 6:34I think we've touched on it briefly, but that was a long time ago.
- 6:36So here's the thing.
- 6:38This is really before they were selling whiskey in the bottles.
- 6:41This is like we're going way back, probably '80s, '60s,
- 6:44'60s, '70s in that spell.
- 6:46And I don't read Fred Minnick's book where he talks about this because
- 6:50there's so many more historians who will write well about this.
- 6:54But basically what was happening is you could make whiskey and sell whiskey
- 6:58to anyone and do whatever you want to it.
- 7:02Fill it out with whatever you liked. Exactly.
- 7:04So you could put something that was distilled.
- 7:07So maybe imagine a vodka or something like that.
- 7:10And then you could put anything in it.
- 7:11And the go to is tobacco spit is the thing that makes it the right
- 7:15colour, which is so gross.
- 7:16But that's something you could do.
- 7:17You could put a tea bag in it to make it that colour.
- 7:20And then you could sell it and no one would necessarily know what was in there
- 7:23because it's being sold in these barrels.
- 7:26So you don't know what you're getting.
- 7:28And so what they did is they I said a few of them.
- 7:30Unfortunately, a lot of those distilleries are no longer around.
- 7:35They all went by the wayside, but they went and said, Let's go and get
- 7:41a-Official signed piece of paper.
- 7:43That's what it says.
- 7:44It's about getting the legislation through.
- 7:47And so Bottled and Bound was the first of these acts, the Bottled and Bound Act.
- 7:51I'm going to get the names of the people wrong, but there were
- 7:52people who were involved. I think Colonel E.
- 7:54H.
- 7:54Taylor was one of the people involved in that.
- 7:56And he was lobbied the government and said, said, Hey, we need to have a way of
- 8:04saying this is an official way of saying this is a real American whiskey.
- 8:09And so this was the first thing.
- 8:10So before, there's the rules about bourbon.
- 8:13Before that was instituted, this thing of bottled in wine.
- 8:16This was before then. This is early on.
- 8:17This was in 1890 something? Yeah, 1897.
- 8:22They said that this is what they wanted to do.
- 8:23Yeah, exactly.
- 8:24And it had to be at least four years as well.
- 8:26And then so the rules for bourbon came after that.
- 8:30Bourbon came, I think, quite a fair bit later.
- 8:32I think bourbon seemed, I could be wrong about this, but it might
- 8:34be like 1940s or something.
- 8:37I'm going to be wrong.
- 8:38I probably wasn't currently- I don't know how many people check
- 8:40any of the stuff we say.
- 8:41Yeah, but there's some dudes.
- 8:43There were some dudes in America, and they did some good work.
- 8:45But they made the bourbon taste delicious.
- 8:47And dear goodness, we love it. So Evan Williams.
- 8:51So you can go to the Evan Williams experience.
- 8:53I think it's called on the Main Street in Louisville.
- 8:55Oh, yeah. And you can go to Heaven Hill as well.
- 8:58You can.
- 8:59Yeah, that's out in- Because that's where they make it.
- 9:00Yeah, exactly.
- 9:01And in fact, I think they've just finished, or not just, but recently
- 9:05finished their new version of their visitor experience.
- 9:08Not visitor experience, but like the distillerian stuff.
- 9:11Because Heaven Hill make lots of different expressions.
- 9:16Elijah Craig is one of them.
- 9:17So that's all in that group.
- 9:20So they know how to make good quality, affordable bourbon.
- 9:24Well, that's why I'm looking at how little I've got left because of
- 9:28how small your pour was.
- 9:29But that's why I was so pleasantly surprised that this was so good, because
- 9:34they need to have these tiers of what's the good stuff, what's the next best
- 9:39stuff, and then what do we sell at 15 to 30 dollars a bottle.
- 9:42And so you can't expect it to be that good.
- 9:44Is this there a super affordable one. Well, this is one of them.
- 9:47There's also an Evan Williams black label, which I'm going to guess is 80 proof.
- 9:51It's there. It's not bottle in bond.
- 9:53So it's like- So it's less than this?
- 9:54Less proof, yeah.
- 9:55No, no, less cost. I imagine.
- 9:57I don't know.
- 9:59But it But if you walk into a supermarket in the US, I reckon you'll find both a
- 10:02black and white label, Evan Williams.
- 10:04I'm excited about doing a blind tasting and putting that in.
- 10:07You're going to throw it in there. It's a spanner.
- 10:08Not in the next one because you're going to be looking for it.
- 10:12You'll be like, Which one is it?
- 10:14I'll have to wait a few. I'll have to have a few.
- 10:16But that's going to...
- 10:18I'd like to just compare it to some of the really more high-end ones because it
- 10:23really is delicious.
- 10:24But it might just be because it's our first bourbon.
- 10:26Well, colour me surprised.
- 10:28That was more delightful than I was expecting.
- 10:31If you can find yourself a bottle of that.
- 10:33In Australia, this is going to be maybe 70 bucks or something like that, which
- 10:36is well worth the spend, in my view.
- 10:40Yeah, so you can find it because- Grab a bottle.
- 10:42I can I got that at Celebrations.
- 10:43But one- Yeah, and enjoy some caramel-vanilla- And he'll have more.
- 10:47For sure. Deliciousness.
- 10:48Yeah, real good bourbon-y notes and a really excellent mouthfeel.
- 10:52Stop laughing at how much I'm enjoying this.
- 10:54Go and get yourself a bottle. And be surprised.
- 10:56Cheers.
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