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Ep 279 - "No Answers" Saints vs Vikings RECAP · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ashtag no music no intro we are that the same spot party podcast brought to you in presented by precious works L.O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for any of your business website needs which out to our guy Pajon he will hook you up and we are together with person Adam join by Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: coals, my friend Ryan aka Wolf we've covered in the Saints and variety of capacities of these past six plus years from pro days to senior bulls to combine as your name dude we covered it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to start this episode talking about the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to start this episode talking about we have just concluded essentially our fifth annual
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fucking tie to all y'all came all over from the from the US from the world like we appreciate y'all so much Like we're not just saying patreon.com and what we watch in the fucking Falcon for turn of return of fucking
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[SPEAKER_00]: play on defense, Jesse Bates, probably this this is where shit is right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we say patreon.com, size, things block part of your YouTube member, whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that we just have such a great community that we built and cultivated, such an amazing thing with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just one of those things where when we started this podcast and a pandemic in 2020,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Never in a million years, we ever thought that it has become what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so much bigger and deeper than just like football and just the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we were running, we were rolling 15, 20 people deep all weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the type of people that we have in our community, everyone again together, having a great time, is just truly something special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was three generation of West at this meetup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was my uncle, myself, my cousin,
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[SPEAKER_00]: West Generations that were here just coming together as family so man what a just what a what a week man We'll get to the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to roast in the same thing in all that, but just I just want to take time It just give love to our community and everything that we saw this week and then to the date It was that's what this weekend was all about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, community There's nothing like a girl like I can't really explain it or where is every year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just gives me more emotional
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, just blown away by it every time, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just to this point, like, these are relationships that's been developed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it was, man, like, interpersonal relationships upon people, you know, now it's not like how nice to meet you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's like, just saying, oh, buddy, you have you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And why we're going this every year, you know, then we've got the traffic meet up and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: his greatness shut out there by the L.A. if you've been hesitant to come come trust me you will enjoy yourself you're enjoying the city you're going to enjoy the phone you know Trump we turned up always putting in drinks back down and cool the Browns we were so shut out there by the camera like I put it up it anybody I've done
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to give a quick shout out to the award who actually came to the first meet-up base.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They came to buy beer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: buy you beer garden and they were there and just just not just them but just everyone like I know they've been trying to come for for years and they you know they made it happen just out to Brian a work and his lovely family that came to the meet up and just like Ryan said like if you are scared like it will it quickly goes away and if you you you if you come and as a person you can bring your partner spouse we all we all will we all will I guess we got
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about this game, talk about this game, talk about this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You were there, yo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were there as we even, even like a minute left in the game, this gold chance clap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to the team?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to the team?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to the team?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in, I was almost in shock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's watching me like, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How?
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[SPEAKER_00]: how the mighty apple, you know, you know, we have been mighty in a long time, but it's just amazing to see that don't use to be like a place that can shift the company, don't, that's the hell, hell, hell, hell, this the opposite, not for it, it's the opposite, like she is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're the opposing fan base and we like she let's go to New Orleans but we got a good time and we know we get new ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They took over in this homestead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three gay homestead, the Saints went on three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They went on three, well, you have a quarterback in Tyler's shock, who is more likely playing with the broken left hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The, the, the Kellyn Moore whole experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to start there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think like I think we can't avoid not starting there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, it's, it's time to be done in New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the proof is in the pudding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, look, he's going to get time to prove what he's made of, at least the rest of this season.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so, but I mean, they are one and four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have the sixth overall pick in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go to New York and play the Giants, which I don't think that they win that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they go to Paris and play the Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I say I don't think they'll win the Giants game and the Steelers game is that the thing that the things don't do well, they don't pass project work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you go on against a Steelers-a-pass Russian Paris, you go on against the Giants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't really have a pass for us at all, but they're just a physical team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't trust this team to beat physical teams, even though they beat the Ravens every two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they could potentially be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want them for right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could potentially be one in six going into the bot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, it just depends on like, what, what do those losses look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because even if you went to the game today, you lost the game today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, if the defense could be matting, they could be annoying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they put a touchdown on the board and they caused the fun bull that led to the offense having this short field that then they were able to score their only touchdown on the first round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Only text found, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like killing more is an offensive thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coach, offensive air coach, make it make sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to reference this on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to try to see who who said it and out this while you look for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here what are the same positions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, first position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That first point was a three and out by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll look sorry, I started off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A point touch down after the fumble by the Vikings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got out on the touch down from the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: point, point, fumble, interception, touch down from the defense, point, okay, and on down, interception, and again, I guess that's just, and on bro, at home, that's like, after the game, after you just lay one of the next, this ugly is he crosses eggs on Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Follow that up with this with this with your breeze and the build.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that was beautiful, bro, beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful, beautiful French bring about a ceremony just as seeing his name up there in the back on the unveiling of the brothers in this, in the third quarter star, Jason Price.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was in that moment, it felt like the end, and the dome like people were obviously in the concessions, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like that, the dome wasn't like full, but you could just feel the entire
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[SPEAKER_00]: like you even like the crowd noise you're so just the crowd noise go down nobody was just everybody just sitting down for a just like and here we go and they they they lost on so many levels today they the offense failed mightily the special teams was asked to just talk about that jayton price fumble
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[SPEAKER_00]: that you had Daniel Carlson after Sanker returns it for like an 81-yard bumblework recovery that if he if he hits the extra point then it's for it's 14 13 but he didn't so it's 13 13 things like they they're not just losing not just on the margins they're losing it in like just total bombastic ways of just how bad teams stay bad there's a it was a tweet by Ross Jackson I found it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Inkellen's more in Kelenmors 22 games with the Saints 7 and 15.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 3 and 8 at home Okay, they have never scored more than 7 in the first order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think about that y'all That's given a weird game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna weird game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the first quarter lead or first half leads One of them was today's game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were up seven to six at half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay
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[SPEAKER_00]: a few is worth our shipping few is first quarter point score 35 and until in 22 games he scored 35 points in the first quarter as a head coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most first quarter three and out's 29 and we saw we've been seeing them three and out today and back the last season with the last season and the third worst turn of the mark they're negative it's negative 10.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to follow up on something that you said last week, which I thought was so important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you said that if fans can continue to go bad, you start worrying about the development and the progression and just the overall trajectory of Tyler's shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was such a crystal clear today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And today's game was a crystal clear example of it because this is how teams end up itself
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[SPEAKER_00]: y'all got him out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fight against Bryan Flores blitz the thing to 90.99% of dropbacks today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think that was fucking impossible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot for his stand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That tells me he did not, he did, he said, kill him more than the other socks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They turned that shit up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Turn that shit up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Turn that shit up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then something weird, I'll let you get something out of just something weird in the game app.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're built like for a second, like they've been a song, a song, Richard, yeah, because I couldn't really see what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because so they had Murphy's, the game that got they claimed, the top of the claim from the Packers, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, from the Packers out there for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was only three players that they went for right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, he was out there, and then the next off of the series, they had a summer, just back in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, and it didn't seem like it was injury-related.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if they tried to like, softly-bitch him, and then they switched, like, what is happening?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I do a lot at you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I went on a tangent, but all that I just threw at you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to stay with the Tyler and Chuck Pickle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the most important thing of all that I just talked about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the biggest thing because you know just going to film study of week to week you see the beat knees taken and you just it's like it's so integral to just quarterback and the more you get hit the faster your clock speeds up and the more you just you just lose the control that you have
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[SPEAKER_00]: taking your three step drop, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, sped up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just everything gets sped up, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we like he had, one of his worst statistical games as a pro, the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was 57 passing yards at half time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He ended the game with 97 passing yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 97 passing yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, it was not going to be two, but three, two and a seven day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, two and a seven day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're bad in the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think one of you can like, you know, all popped up in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you terrible in the substitute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the games you don't want to see from your quarterback and I can't even blame him like it's just it's not his fault.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what's being done to him or what he's doing because you're not supporting the guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not he did have some semblance of a run game for like a drive one drive driving ahead whatever but that was it that was always put you got it other than it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every drop back he was getting an even though you know even clichens even the hand-offs You kiss all him getting up off the ground peel in the self-hawking ground peel in the self-hawking ground that affects this man And you want you might it'll be very very disappointed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They found a good quarter and they weren't him and they're growing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have you said
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[SPEAKER_00]: I tweeted this earlier, but I said that like, where Tally shook his right now is very reminiscent to me of how what Kayla Wilkins was dealing with pre-benjots and other bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What were like, he was getting hit and then League and said, I'm telling you, it's almost like parallel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where the coach and I'm not comparing them as talents like Caleb Williams and much talent to more talent to quarterback and tell his son.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But just in that cycle of like how a team fails a quarter back, he just feels almost identical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing, and I'm not going to say something that's a little, I don't know if it's controversial or not is a hot take.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, if he has a, if his, if his left hand is pro, which I know doesn't, but to just like save himself is someone in the front office
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe just put Spencer off there for the next two games like like out like and I'm not and I'm not this is not like a whole agenda thing This is like because if you don't like Shake it go real bad with him real quick and if you get a top five pick and they completely do wholesale changes like completely wholesale changes If a new coach is coming in like they're not tied to college shut
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, all you'd be forced to be like any coach you hired has to be exactly, you don't want to go down that route if you're actually right, but it's called right so it just opens such a nasty can of worms like all the weather we say before this season started like you want to see progress from this team, but the one of the most important things we come out this season is no and if Chuck is
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got like we knew he was a guy coming out of last season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a guy that we could if we don't see what's going on But you want to finish the season on these guys if you didn't a season with just a bunch of questions and he's heard And you can't figure you can't figure out if it's him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is it pressure?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the offer to my man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how so many teams say that we see these teams all over the league all the time cycle Brother sufficient cycle with it just stay bad stay bad and let's put the same to all right now listen with it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we get to the big crux of this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is if the team, when I say it's happening in the front office, decides to move on from calendar more, how does make you and Ms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Potentially get to state?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, get two shoes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stay there and potentially pick his foretank holds more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How does that make how does that make any fucking sense to take with looms go see looms go see look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want fire There's other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got you all the one first this right here coach With it was limited I'm just saying he's gonna have his little excuses to get up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: interesting, because I know we in corn was in that same hay, goat Nepal was, you know, okay, okay, all right, I'm just checking, I'm just checking, just checking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's another point with the Tala's shop thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want Tala's shop to be like a positive piece to sway cultures to come to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The best it sounds bad, and I'm not, but like, one of the best things that this Saints team can do between now and your end of season is that this job in terms of the talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is looked at similarly to the Patriot's job when they got rid of, when they got rid of, Dr. Rameo, and that bear's job when they got rid of the defense coordinator who's I'm blanking on top of my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if the job looks like that at the end of the season, it's a win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that I go back to is even the talent is that you
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[SPEAKER_00]: So why the, why the head coach and search led to killing more this lad head coach and search and they went through so many candidates that told him like, nah, I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We could job even Joe Brady, Joe Brady, who obviously looks like a better head coach and kill more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Use on use on your fifth or six option because so many people just did not refuse to be like, oh, I got to work with making loomers like that's the gym and I can't bring like that's such a nonstarter for so many candidates in the lead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only 32 dogs, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That only goes so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they end up in the same position, and if they don't make any changes, and people are like, well, he's in the trust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Trust can be changed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you telling me, you telling me, you can't get in a room with a lawyer and say, you know what, we ride this trust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like people keep, keep throwing that out, that fall again, that falls back on Gilpins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like how long is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause right now this team is crazy because you know, you know my friend told me this, three-ish years ago, three plus years ago that like the league saw the things as a like a laugh and start and we did not wanna believe it looks, make it four years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And look what it's been a laugh and start for four damn years, four damn years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's really crazy is, about three weeks who have to breathe in and throw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a completely different outlook, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I still keep like a slow, it's finally like a sliver, even I can't see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep a sliver of like, okay, there is a path we're killing, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Goals on the four or five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to say I don't see it happening But it is a pet just like a couple of weeks ago, they'd be driven But even then it's like, okay, we need to see more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Need to see more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he died up to the child This just such a soul from this team bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, watch this team Go up against pretty much every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like time to stop team just so Oh my god, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No physical no physical College you watch the lines
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just they get pushed around and it's not the scary part, but I think the sad part is, you know, after the game we went to Manning's Green Manning's and that was a whole
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[SPEAKER_00]: experience in it, but so, but just watching that seahawks, nine years game, browse like, we like, it just feels almost imp like, are we ever going to get there, like, like, it feels so far away, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're for Lee, like, so far away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we, are we ever going to get there again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, I don't, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing it can't be every every game is like, oh, let me check, take it on after the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me check, take it on after the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's, that's where it is right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fall to the Giants next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to go out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One in five, might be one in six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotta go out to Paris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know Kelly Moore's bug booth is preparation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we go to a proper cross-season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Play the stimulus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The saving grace for Kelly so far this season has been tall and shut and doing some of the basic things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he's able to do right in the clutch, but now you're destroying that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now what you've got?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what does this team have to hang?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does this team have to hang its hat on?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like cool or the blue chip pillars on this team?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris O'Lave is clearly playing dinged up right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chase Young, Chase Young, barely had like 15 presses to date.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of concerned about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you're further.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Grandus and then the, okay, he had it here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a pretty decent game and he also, like, the whole thing, like, why they, we're not playing Christian Boyd more before just now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time he out the, forced the phone, the phone ball, like, what, or what, but, like, I named you two blue chip players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many of those players did they draft?
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, two, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, four,
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[SPEAKER_00]: we got to see more of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got injured.
19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not there yet, but you feel like maybe you could put Calvin Banks in that bucket in terms of like a true blue chip player.
19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You hope?
19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You hope, you know?
19:24
[SPEAKER_00]: We hope that would work.
19:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like a point.
19:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But I, too, that's two players worth.
19:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just the thing that's so disappointing to me.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And all this is, you have these people, the fans, us, you know, we go to the game, pay their hard on money, go on to these games, show them up for the team, and this is what is, this is what we are subjected to, I'm believe, what's crazy is, I was thinking somebody tweeted me that I was like, you don't kill him more, he's nothing but a, thank you, heck, you drive me, or somebody else didn't mention it, I didn't mention it, I don't
20:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't this had a winner record.
20:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't even I don't get it.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he like they write though, man Like I feel like killing more is in that ilk of like Just the coaches where it's like this is not good coaching like what you see You notice they like I have to think like clicking on this still to one about it He was a brownish on a pig for a long time.
20:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm saying
20:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he has to, he has to seem like, okay, this is, I don't know, I don't know if things have him was bad, but this is like, he has to, we talked about this, what, I don't know what, thank you, it was Friday night, we were at Kouda Browns, and we just brought up the subject of
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say what you want about Jerry Jones, but there was a reason that they did not make Kevin Moore a heck coach when he was the O.C.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: and Dallas for such a long period of time about it, and being rude to be the next heck coach after Mike McCarthy, and it just never happened.
20:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they hired Brian Scharder hammer, got Kevin Phil, I think Kevin probably felt like a way about that.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there was a reason why Jerry Jones never turned over the keys to Kevin Moore as a heck.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And you back as fans, as a team, you were seeing the first, like, the why that was his Jerry Jones' decision.
21:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, while, you know, Kevin coming off in Super Bowl year, they weren't a bunch of teams lined up,
21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It had literally just us humans just us so I'm not saying like, you know, one You know, that doesn't mean anything like okay like that doesn't meet like it's okay to think outside the box and be like Don't but but it also has to like okay like maybe other teams do something that that we didn't you know
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I just hate to be back in it.
21:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I try not to be like the hashtag fire, current hit cold you guy, because we were like, we were, we were the face of fire.
21:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how the face is.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just try not, I really, I'm really trying not to be that, but God damn, like this is what it is.
21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Making it like what it is.
21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you all like, what are you
22:07
[SPEAKER_00]: They get it hard.
22:08
[SPEAKER_00]: This is trash, man.
22:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in this night, even nothing like to hang my head old.
22:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, some of the route kind of stuff stuff.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was reminded, well, Mike Lombardi used to call killing more joystick on Neil.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm doing okay.
22:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It is really, I saw him tweet about us.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't eat dead used to call them that.
22:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Because killing more is just a play call.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he calls place.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no sequencing.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no store behind it.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense now.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just playing calling.
22:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all it's just a guy.
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And I washed him.
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I was sitting up there.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did do it.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at him all the time.
22:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like this all the time.
22:35
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22:35
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22:45
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22:45
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22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: If I sell, you may see them talk this guitar with Chuck sometimes, just like before like a critical foot down to something like that, but other than that, that's it by himself.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a hit coach.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what else to say, Brellek, that is not a hit coach, Brellek, not.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, they whole management's hope was like, okay, we can do just like Jared Jones, then we'll try to do groom him, you know.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: just kind of nurturing him into becoming that, but like, that's something because this is what it is.
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You think you asked this, you're like, man, I can't get fired.
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna get it.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna, oh, see job, like, he might go back to quarterback coaching.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, like, just be like, he might be one of those, like, quarterback coaches that stick brown.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a, oh, see, like, I could see like a defensive coach hiring, like, you know, killing more to run a day off into something like that.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: like you have to show it next.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll be just like nothing you're hacking and all those guys, bro.
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Just, you know, floating around the league, going to the menu of jobs, bro.
23:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an office of cool.
23:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And think about how thirsty the league is for just office, bro.
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just no bags that anybody, bro.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is anybody.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you go from here?
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the priority ones, they need to, they need to figure out a way to protect you.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, even if even if that's at the cost of not being able to do everything you want on all of, yes, you know.
24:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe you have to kind of play with a lot of 12, 13 person now, 21 person now.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't say like maybe you have to just do a lot of things to keep the quarterback protected that doesn't look as good, you know, from a snap to snap standpoint, but you got to do a better job.
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, let me get him like in a safe and brilliant, because right now I feel like you spiral.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
24:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he goes out there against giants and he has like a crushing game, then there's like, what did you go to?
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bro.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: really?
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Because here's the thing, if drafting another player and just putting him in the same position and if it's not changing the whole thing, you got to break this shit down, you got to break it down to the studs.
25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get someone to come in and say, okay, this is the talent we have in Olaan.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I need a...
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: either me as the head coach or me as I'm going to hire someone, this is going to be our foundation, this is going to be our identity.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It can't just be investing in the draft picks and investing the money into the position because the coaching is completely not there.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so crucial in the trenches.
25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It is crucial in the trenches.
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Both sides of the trenches, just completely completely disappointing loss and
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We just hope because we hope it gets better just hope it gets better anything else on on this game or You know, we do watch the game live is kind of like, yes You just can just try and see what's like And it's just like it looked so terrible for the world just like it looked awful, but in like where's the peck?
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't get the defense a little bit of credit.
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they play with, they played, I like I expected this fire.
26:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, more fire, yep, yep, they will bring in it.
26:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Sanke was bringing it, you know, he had his life issues that he has week to week, but he always lays that pot man, like he made a match attack.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He does, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I think he gets to like, it's just like, and it's just in Jefferson, I get it.
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Justin is more one of the, you know, one of the top three, four, whatever seems in the lead, but control coming from above, just flowing like kind of murder, just food that thing up.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: He did brought this through it up, and you got three
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what you can't make?
26:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I call you, really, really, this is really, I call you, I want to get up right there.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you knew, I knew I knew I knew I knew I was gay.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew you knew.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I was glad we were at the game, so we didn't hear it.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have someone like Drew Reeves calling the game, and he's criticized and killing Warren to play college.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: he's he's criticized and why they're not wondering running more play action passes talking about the defense is talking about the off like how much the defense has to be on the field because you going out three and out so many times what a play
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You got the greatest player to ever put on the same jersey saying that on a broad cat.
27:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the most optimistic people you have faced me.
27:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just woof that shit.
27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Meaning something, bro?
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It means something.
27:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if he's like, I wonder if he's still, I wonder if he's still like a gallon of text message.
27:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Just only.
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still a shit girl.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: This shit back, bro.
27:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, I bet I won't always want to like with him and Sean.
27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't let him grow.
27:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I chat.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't shit, bro.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just sitting like,
27:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you believe this?
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to see if we did it.
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and we talked about this before, and it hurt.
27:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, same need a program.
27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: really needs that come in it.
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Understand.
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Building understands.
27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Not this.
27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we need, you know, but I'll fit to mine.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a good defense of what you have to understand.
27:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to
28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: got fast-tracked right into being a quarterback coach.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't even do like the whole offensive quality control grind that people do for like five or six years.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He went straight to being a quarterback coach.
28:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Straight to being an offensive-linker on a attack press.
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: That was already a good quarterback.
28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know, you go to the charges.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't have like, I mean, does find their ability.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like it was fine.
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, it was like, okay,
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And he leaves that goal to the Eagles and, you know, they have their superports season.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Even then when you focus on it, it's like most of the year that offense had problems but they had sick point partly and he would fall in and then gentlemen herbs get to the playoffs and he looked amazing in the playoffs.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, but when you're really like decked down into his history, it's like,
28:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something really, that's from a program still and it's not, oh no, I know what is there.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay, he's working for the back side of the stands to pass the game.
29:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And we see that, you know, him being able to identify a type of chess, some of the things he does, which is good, but like, you need more nebry.
29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: What I just described is a past game point.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I just stressed like that's the guy you have fast game coordinate and run game coordinate it overall OCD and manages all that that's what he is.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got a hit a past game coordinate I've read it as a hey coach.
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh ain't gonna worry no after this team nope
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: not for this.
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to work.
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Saints aside was wrapped this up.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to make a maze, just putting the cap on it and it remains an amazing week.
29:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It just gives so much just life and just energy and just just look forward to it every, every year.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, for y'all always makes me sad.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You sad, being nervous, my sad, for all you know.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: little Brian Brian came down the attitude of Brian, you know, he was just happy to be around, you know, to understand his brother came down community.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me put this out.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So I work, you know, I deal with a lot of like insurance insurance attached for storms and stuff like that.
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was supposed to be all Thursday and Friday, but unfortunately, our PTO got canceled because of the hurricane that was coming.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So I needed to fight away to get to New Orleans.
30:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at taking the press.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about it in this sport.
30:24
[SPEAKER_00]: We got somebody from our community like, may you go round with me up and you're down there.
30:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just little things like that.
30:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll let, you know, skydith stick by him.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
30:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So we ain't got a people who tell us stuff like that.
30:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've come here to do the best.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out for me that me that just like me a big dog me out, Chesh.
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Just take care everybody this making sure everybody have the good time only for a like you can just I just also Devious with them out of I'm out of shock you ordered this prayer Toa That's so many I wish I could name everybody y'all know we all Love y'all Tony Tony's at yeah chili's Adam come through like just just we was leaving us
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: meet up and Tony ran across the street, like, like, cause something.
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony was moving.
31:10
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
31:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, ah, I'm just told him to run by the full fire, but then it picked that little to a lot real quick.
31:16
[SPEAKER_00]: The brother and the team's all in a van.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, man, right guard.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Just truly a major community when when shit is bad for the things like this, it's just so it's like a like a blanket where it's just like we can just like chill Joe be a noi together like that like it's a truly truly together.
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So we appreciate y'all.
31:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We love y'all.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're recording this Sunday night.
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