Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 23 July
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Is the folk reform.
- 0:12Speaker 2: One Nation has arrived because leader paul In Hansen today
- 0:17Speaker 2: had Anthony Albanese spooked. I'm going to give you a contrast.
- 0:21Speaker 2: When the Prime Minister gave his big speech at the
- 0:24Speaker 2: last Labor national conference three years ago, he did not
- 0:29Speaker 2: mention one nation once, did not hint about it, did
- 0:33Speaker 2: not take any sniping out, nothing. But at Labour's national
- 0:38Speaker 2: conference in Adelaide today Albanze could not stop talking about
- 0:43Speaker 2: Hansen and one Nation. In fact, he attacked one Nation
- 0:47Speaker 2: more than attacked the Liberals, which tells me that Labour
- 0:51Speaker 2: now thinks one Nation is its biggest threat. It's real opposition.
- 0:56Speaker 2: And I find this amazing that Albanize should spend so
- 0:59Speaker 2: much energy attacking a party that right now has just
- 1:04Speaker 2: two seats in the House of Representatives. And these attacks
- 1:08Speaker 2: on one Nation, most of them childish, most of them dishonest,
- 1:12Speaker 2: started with Albanize's warm up act. In fact, sound Australian
- 1:15Speaker 2: Premier Peter mananowskis who wants you to think that Pauline Hanson,
- 1:20Speaker 2: who's been in politics for thirty years saying much the
- 1:23Speaker 2: same kind of things and all that time, is really
- 1:26Speaker 2: just copying more recent politicians overseas.
- 1:31Speaker 3: The people of Australia don't need a cheap imitation of
- 1:36Speaker 3: global populism. We need someone who gets things done. We
- 1:41Speaker 3: need someone who brings this country together.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Well, like the Prime Minister with his voice of the Parliament.
- 1:51Speaker 2: I know it's nonsense, all that stuff, you know, like
- 1:53Speaker 2: Manonous is also joking, not joking that one Nation MP
- 1:58Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce and his dog proved that one nation was
- 2:02Speaker 2: unfit for government.
- 2:04Speaker 3: If you can't govern your dog, you can't govern the country.
- 2:11Speaker 2: You just got asked, is this how brainless? How politics
- 2:15Speaker 2: has got or is it just labor? So in came
- 2:18Speaker 2: alban easy, you know. After of course he narrowly survived
- 2:22Speaker 2: an escalator which.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Was as stop as the.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Economy is under him, emerging in the hall like a
- 2:29Speaker 2: man too small for the job of running this country.
- 2:32Speaker 2: How but has he started his speech by again reminding
- 2:36Speaker 2: us of his agenda to divide Australians by race.
- 2:40Speaker 4: I begin by acknowledging the traditional owner's land on which
- 2:44Speaker 4: we're meeting, and I pay my respect to the elder's past,
- 2:47Speaker 4: present and emerging. And I also pay my respect to
- 2:51Speaker 4: any First Nations people who are with us here today.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Now, by the way, his genuflection there to Labour's division
- 3:01Speaker 2: of Australians by race, came from a stage that likewise
- 3:05Speaker 2: was dominated by three flags, and after the official welcome
- 3:10Speaker 2: to country by a man identifying as Aboriginal and wearing
- 3:14Speaker 2: three feathers.
- 3:15Speaker 5: My name is Mickey O'Brien. My Aboriginal name is that
- 3:18Speaker 5: of the impatient one, and I am six, born of
- 3:21Speaker 5: seven children. My father Yelli Berker, the old man of
- 3:23Speaker 5: the sea. Uncle Lewis O'Brien, the oldest living Garner person,
- 3:26Speaker 5: and he is ninety six.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Well, speaking of his father, here is his Aboriginal father,
- 3:35Speaker 2: Lewis O'Brien, the Aboriginal son of an Englishman and a
- 3:41Speaker 2: woman with some Aboriginal ancestry, it seems. But this is
- 3:45Speaker 2: how Labor is pushing us on, this ridiculous division by race.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Now wonder one nation is on the rise, and that
- 3:53Speaker 2: is of course why alben easy today he got stuck
- 3:56Speaker 2: into one nation, blasting Pauline Hansen for apparently not telling
- 4:01Speaker 2: the world that Albanizi was doing a brilliant job runing
- 4:04Speaker 2: this now divided country where living standards are also falling.
- 4:09Speaker 4: All those attention seeking culture wars imported from overseas. All
- 4:15Speaker 4: those trips around the world to talk Australia down cannot
- 4:21Speaker 4: disguise the fact that none of them have anything new
- 4:26Speaker 4: or anything positive to offer our country.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Now, note already in the dishonesty that how uneasy cannot
- 4:36Speaker 2: honestly say, kind of honestly tell us audience what one
- 4:39Speaker 2: nation is really arguing, because then he'd have to reveal
- 4:44Speaker 2: that labor has no answer to it. I mean culture wars,
- 4:48Speaker 2: they're not important for a start, I mean, welcome to country.
- 4:52Speaker 6: Now.
- 4:52Speaker 2: That's Albinisi and labor, global warming, one nation's rejection of
- 4:58Speaker 2: net zero policies. That's not a culture war. That's about economics,
- 5:03Speaker 2: how labor is wasting hundreds of billions of dollars in
- 5:05Speaker 2: de industrializing our nature for nothing, and one nation is
- 5:08Speaker 2: saying no to massivemgress again, not a culture war. That's
- 5:13Speaker 2: more an issue of economics. Again, and the fact that
- 5:17Speaker 2: we're short of houses for the one and a half
- 5:19Speaker 2: million people that Albanize has let in in just four years.
- 5:24Speaker 2: And the one time that Albanize tried to mock a
- 5:26Speaker 2: specific one nation policy that is about culture. Hanson calling
- 5:31Speaker 2: for a public monoculture it was again too dishonest, or
- 5:35Speaker 2: maybe just too dumb to understand or say what Hanson
- 5:40Speaker 2: was actually arguing.
- 5:42Speaker 4: Even the very first labor government was not a monoculture.
- 5:49Speaker 4: There were Protestants and Catholics, English, Irish and Scots. One
- 5:56Speaker 4: was an American pretending to be a Canadian, and no
- 6:01Speaker 4: one was quite sure if the leader was born in
- 6:04Speaker 4: New Zealand or Chile.
- 6:09Speaker 2: I mean, that is just so pathetic and like I say, dishonest,
- 6:13Speaker 2: as if Pauline Hanson doesn't know that Australians come from everywhere,
- 6:17Speaker 2: given that Hanson herself married a Polish refugee, when her
- 6:22Speaker 2: leader in South Australia is of Italian heritage, when her
- 6:26Speaker 2: president in South Australia was born in Argentina, when her
- 6:31Speaker 2: Victorian State secretary was born in Italy, where one Nation,
- 6:36Speaker 2: Senator Malcolm Roberts he was born in India. Now, what
- 6:41Speaker 2: Hanson has in fact said about monticulture is pretty simple,
- 6:45Speaker 2: unless you're a simpleton. We all come originally from somewhere
- 6:49Speaker 2: else and have our own cultures. But the government's job
- 6:52Speaker 2: is to given all that unite us by promoting just one,
- 6:56Speaker 2: the Australian one, with one law for all and just
- 7:00Speaker 2: one flag as well. So really you see right there
- 7:04Speaker 2: and that speech Albanies is struggling with one nation unable
- 7:07Speaker 2: to honestly say why it's wrong to say that the
- 7:10Speaker 2: role of governancy and artists culturally and not divideds to multiculturalism.
- 7:16Speaker 2: And then came probably albani IS's biggest spray one nation,
- 7:20Speaker 2: but the Liberals caught in the crossfire.
- 7:23Speaker 4: And while you can go a long way in politics
- 7:26Speaker 4: for a long time by raging against the system that
- 7:30Speaker 4: you're part of without a plan to fix it, or
- 7:34Speaker 4: blaming people who cannot defend themselves for a problem they
- 7:38Speaker 4: did not cause, that doesn't build anything, It doesn't change anything.
- 7:45Speaker 4: It doesn't take our country forward. It doesn't help anyone
- 7:48Speaker 4: find a job, pay their bills, or put a roof
- 7:51Speaker 4: over their head. This has always been the fundamental contrast
- 7:56Speaker 4: between labor and all our political opponents, and never more
- 8:01Speaker 4: so than now, because beyond one nation's personality clashes, policy confusion,
- 8:08Speaker 4: conspiracy theories and candidate chaos, and regardless of who leads
- 8:14Speaker 4: the Liberals to the next election, in every way that matters,
- 8:19Speaker 4: the Liberals, Nationals and One Nation are already a coalition.
- 8:25Speaker 4: It's not just that they need each other to form government.
- 8:30Speaker 7: They agree with each other.
- 8:34Speaker 2: That was his best shot and unfair. Here. I let
- 8:37Speaker 2: it run and run so you could see what is
- 8:39Speaker 2: God and what is God? Is nothing that one nation
- 8:43Speaker 2: doesn't have solutions for the problem assing explaining the week
- 8:48Speaker 2: and assuming means margrants for everything. Now, it is true
- 8:53Speaker 2: that one nation is light on solutions so far, But
- 8:57Speaker 2: it is also true that has already got quite a few.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Policy is out there already, even if it hasn't said
- 9:03Speaker 2: how it will quite pay for them. It's got a
- 9:05Speaker 2: policy and an immigration, it's got a policy of multiculturalism,
- 9:08Speaker 2: and its zero on defense, and orcus and income splitting
- 9:11Speaker 2: it on the flag, and so on and on, and
- 9:14Speaker 2: go to the website check for yourself. Now, I agree,
- 9:17Speaker 2: not enough policies yet, and not enough costings, absolutely labor
- 9:22Speaker 2: though of course it's got policies up the wazoo. So
- 9:28Speaker 2: many policies. And how's that working out for you? Your
- 9:33Speaker 2: living standards are down, your house prices they're crashing, Inflation
- 9:38Speaker 2: is up, interest rates are up, A debt is reaching
- 9:41Speaker 2: a trillion dollars. Our military is weak, the one our country.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Is now divided.
- 9:48Speaker 2: I don't judge politicians by the paths of paper, the
- 9:50Speaker 2: written on policy. I don't judge by the paper, but
- 9:54Speaker 2: the performance and this government's performance has been shocking and
- 9:58Speaker 2: that's what's of course, helped to create one nation, and
- 10:02Speaker 2: that's why Albinizi today was freaking. But if he has
- 10:06Speaker 2: got a good argument against one nation, is sure wasn't
- 10:10Speaker 2: in his speech today. Now, the obsession with one nation
- 10:18Speaker 2: of Labor conference was at times insane.
- 10:22Speaker 3: For years one Nation has voted with the coalition against
- 10:25Speaker 3: key protections for workers.
- 10:29Speaker 2: I mean it was like labor needed one nation to
- 10:32Speaker 2: feed their hate.
- 10:33Speaker 4: One nation, one nation, one nation, one nation, one nation,
- 10:37Speaker 4: one nation, one nation, one nation, one nation.
- 10:40Speaker 2: One notion, one notion, one nation, one notion. But I
- 10:44Speaker 2: reckon this next speaker really took the cake, actually claiming
- 10:47Speaker 2: that one nation was against people speaking their own languages
- 10:50Speaker 2: at home and Labor had to vote to stop, which
- 10:53Speaker 2: it did.
- 10:54Speaker 8: One of the things that we have in this motion
- 10:58Speaker 8: is to support a multi lingual Australia because contrary to
- 11:05Speaker 8: the beliefs of the leader of One Nation, it is
- 11:09Speaker 8: actually a thing we should be proud of that we
- 11:12Speaker 8: have people who speak other languages at home, who can
- 11:15Speaker 8: communicate with the rest of the world in their language.
- 11:23Speaker 2: I am pretty confident I'm not going to upset Pauline
- 11:25Speaker 2: Hanson by saying that, as I say at home about
- 11:29Speaker 2: lives like that, who'll storm mutchizain on dopta Kolova in Dutch?
- 11:36Speaker 1: That is how dumb do.
- 11:37Speaker 2: You have to be to believe that? And normally on
- 11:41Speaker 2: a Thursday, my regular commentator is Barnaby Joyce, but it's
- 11:44Speaker 2: off for most of the next few weeks. And I thought, Wow,
- 11:47Speaker 2: with all this freaking about one nation, and as you heard,
- 11:50Speaker 2: you know Albany's infulminating about the candidates, Let's see who
- 11:54Speaker 2: else they've actually got. What monsters are lurking there behind
- 11:57Speaker 2: Hansen and Barnaby with their eves plans. So let's have
- 12:02Speaker 2: a look now at one Nation. Senator Tyrann written now,
- 12:06Speaker 2: Tyren Witton, thank you so very much for your time.
- 12:09Speaker 2: I hope I didn't offend you by speaking a bit
- 12:10Speaker 2: of Dutch there. Please tell me that that is allowed
- 12:13Speaker 2: under One Nation.
- 12:15Speaker 7: Absolutely it's allowed.
- 12:16Speaker 9: I mean my son married into a family of Italians
- 12:21Speaker 9: and I aim a grandson saying Italian words and it
- 12:25Speaker 9: makes me proud.
- 12:26Speaker 7: But yeah, absolutely.
- 12:27Speaker 9: Speak whatever language you want, but you will speak Australian
- 12:31Speaker 9: if you're going to live in Australia your home.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Well that's what we're speaking in right now, English, right now.
- 12:38Speaker 2: I don't want to turn this into a promo for you, okay,
- 12:41Speaker 2: So I'll ask you tough ones id to balance it
- 12:43Speaker 2: all up. But I want viewers to know where one
- 12:45Speaker 2: nation gets his people from.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Now.
- 12:47Speaker 2: You had a great grandfather who has made deaf and
- 12:50Speaker 2: blind in an industrial accident. You had a grandfather who
- 12:54Speaker 2: raised four children as a single father, and his wife
- 12:56Speaker 2: died earlier. And you yourself worked in construction and oyster farming.
- 13:02Speaker 2: You actually did pretty well for yourself, didn't you.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 13:07Speaker 7: I mean I wasn't born into money.
- 13:09Speaker 9: My brother and I started our construction business many years ago.
- 13:12Speaker 9: It was him a wheelbarrow and a ute and a
- 13:15Speaker 9: lot of drive, a lot of passion, and we grew
- 13:18Speaker 9: that business to employing over a thousand people. And you know,
- 13:23Speaker 9: there was all the usual things along the way. There
- 13:25Speaker 9: was a lot of late nights, blood, sweat and tears.
- 13:30Speaker 9: We skin our knees many times, a lot of scar tissue.
- 13:34Speaker 9: But it taught me a lot about how the world
- 13:37Speaker 9: really works, and that's the background that I come from
- 13:39Speaker 9: and that's the experience I bring to the party in
- 13:42Speaker 9: the parliament.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
- 13:46Speaker 1: I don't think a single.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Member of the Labor Cabinet has ever run a business
- 13:51Speaker 2: of any kind, a little grown one to that size.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Now you've heard Labor there and it's national conference attacking
- 13:59Speaker 2: your part is it's just about outrage. It's got no solutions,
- 14:03Speaker 2: it's just about beating up immigrants. It's just copying Donald
- 14:07Speaker 2: Trump and other foreigners. Your response, well, g.
- 14:12Speaker 9: We're occupying a lot of time in their heads, aren't we.
- 14:14Speaker 9: I mean, if you took out all the one nation
- 14:17Speaker 9: talk there, that would have gone for twenty minutes, you know.
- 14:20Speaker 9: And this talk about copying Donald Trump Pauline has been
- 14:23Speaker 9: around for thirty years. Donald Trump's a new phenomenon.
- 14:27Speaker 4: You know.
- 14:28Speaker 9: You could almost argue he is copying Pauline. So the outrage, yes,
- 14:32Speaker 9: there's outrage.
- 14:33Speaker 7: In the community. We hear it all the time.
- 14:36Speaker 9: People are so fed up with this Labor government and
- 14:39Speaker 9: the things they do and don't do. They've lost sight
- 14:42Speaker 9: of where they were from and the people are feeling it.
- 14:45Speaker 9: And that's why our popularity is rising.
- 14:47Speaker 7: It's soaring.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Now you've also seen journalists attacking recent stumblespoke one nation,
- 14:55Speaker 2: if that's what they are, I mean, and I'll put
- 14:58Speaker 2: up in my hand. I thought that Pauling Hanson's should
- 15:00Speaker 2: have been making speeches explaining her idea of them on
- 15:03Speaker 2: a culture to stop the laws being told about it.
- 15:05Speaker 1: She didn't.
- 15:06Speaker 2: I thought she made a big mistake talking to convict
- 15:08Speaker 2: the thug Tommy Robinson. I think Malcolm Robinson's conspiracy theories
- 15:12Speaker 2: and putin admiration of cuckoo, and also last night said
- 15:16Speaker 2: that Pauline Hansen spoke very clumsily about domestic violence. Are
- 15:20Speaker 2: you frustrated by any of these unforced thearers.
- 15:27Speaker 7: Not at all.
- 15:27Speaker 9: I mean, you know, we're a small party and we're
- 15:31Speaker 9: trying hard.
- 15:32Speaker 7: What we won't do is not answer the questions.
- 15:35Speaker 9: So we're happy to answer the tough questions.
- 15:38Speaker 7: We're happy to talk about the tough topics.
- 15:40Speaker 9: And inevitably, along that path, you know there'll be a
- 15:43Speaker 9: couple of little stumbles. But I think the majority of
- 15:46Speaker 9: people out there when we make these let's call them errors,
- 15:50Speaker 9: might understand what we're trying to say. They understand where
- 15:54Speaker 9: we're coming from, where real people like them, we're not
- 15:57Speaker 9: perfect who is but we will always answer the tough
- 16:01Speaker 9: questions and not back away from the tough conversations.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Now, you walked away from a very successful business to
- 16:10Speaker 2: be in politics. Why is it that you most want
- 16:14Speaker 2: one nation to get done? If you do get lucky
- 16:17Speaker 2: in the next election. What did you come into the
- 16:20Speaker 2: party to actually do.
- 16:24Speaker 6: Well?
- 16:25Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd left the business well before my thoughts turned
- 16:29Speaker 9: to politics. I used to say to my children, you know,
- 16:32Speaker 9: don't complain about something, do something about it. So that's
- 16:35Speaker 9: how I got here. And yeah, I think it's no
- 16:39Speaker 9: secret of some of the things that we want to
- 16:40Speaker 9: achieve if we get anywhere close to power, with reducing
- 16:44Speaker 9: MASSI immigration, getting rid of the climate change, getting out
- 16:48Speaker 9: of the Paris Agreement. I mean we've broken records saying
- 16:51Speaker 9: them a thousand times.
- 16:52Speaker 7: People know what we were here to do.
- 16:54Speaker 9: But we're fighting for Australia and Australians and every decision
- 16:59Speaker 9: we make, every bill we vote on, gets put through
- 17:02Speaker 9: a filter.
- 17:03Speaker 7: Is this good for.
- 17:04Speaker 9: Australia and Australians. And that's how I see the world.
- 17:07Speaker 9: That's what we will be fighting for.
- 17:11Speaker 2: But you personally tarran when you thought, you know, cracking
- 17:15Speaker 2: I'm going to Canberra. What was it you thought, this
- 17:19Speaker 2: is what I want to do when I leave politics.
- 17:21Speaker 2: I'd like this to at least this one thing to
- 17:24Speaker 2: have been done well.
- 17:28Speaker 9: I want the country to better than when I got here,
- 17:31Speaker 9: which is going to be a tough gig at the moment.
- 17:34Speaker 9: You look at all the decisions and things that Labor's introducing.
- 17:39Speaker 9: We've got a long road ahead of us, a big challenge.
- 17:42Speaker 9: But yeah, I'll be damned if I leave this place
- 17:45Speaker 9: worse than the way I found it.
- 17:46Speaker 7: For my children, ever, everyone's children.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Tarran, we didn't thank you so much for your time.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
- 17:54Speaker 2: After the break Labor inside of Cameron Milner on the
- 17:57Speaker 2: real story behind Labour's national conference Zone don't think it's
- 18:00Speaker 2: good and today's unemployment effix. I tell you what they do,
- 18:04Speaker 2: show that one state is ruining it for everyone else. Okay,
- 18:12Speaker 2: I'm showing you the Prime minis suspeech today Labour's National
- 18:14Speaker 2: Conference in the obsession with paul In Hansen.
- 18:18Speaker 1: But there was something else.
- 18:20Speaker 2: If you look at why so many Australians are doing
- 18:23Speaker 2: it so tough right now, something's really leap out, Like
- 18:27Speaker 2: businesses tied down with green with a red tape green
- 18:30Speaker 2: tape too. Productivity down the toilet are making it so
- 18:35Speaker 2: hard to create more wealth, which is what we need,
- 18:38Speaker 2: more wealth.
- 18:38Speaker 1: I mean, you just compare Australia's.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Per capita growth after inflation under this government company's a
- 18:45Speaker 2: government on the right of the screen, compared to all
- 18:48Speaker 2: the previous governments. I mean, it's just terrible, terrible, and
- 18:53Speaker 2: that of course explains why people are getting poorer now,
- 18:56Speaker 2: given that the need to get more productive, so there's
- 19:01Speaker 2: a bigger pie to share it with so many more
- 19:03Speaker 2: people too. What then, were the big new policy reveals
- 19:07Speaker 2: in Albaneze's speech today? Nothing flat, nothing about growing that pie,
- 19:16Speaker 2: he said, Yet a vague assurance to help unions restrict
- 19:19Speaker 2: the use of AI in business, plus the creation of
- 19:22Speaker 2: another bureaucracy, more spending not just on practical experience for
- 19:27Speaker 2: health professions, but that bureaucracy is another way for workers
- 19:31Speaker 2: claiming to be underpaid to take their bosses to court.
- 19:36Speaker 4: But simply don't have the time or the resources to
- 19:39Speaker 4: navigate the legal system, or are told their case will
- 19:43Speaker 4: take months even years to resolve and cost the more
- 19:46Speaker 4: than their claimer's worth. Now that's just wrong and we're
- 19:51Speaker 4: going to fix it. Today I announced that our government
- 19:55Speaker 4: will create the Fair Work Court.
- 20:00Speaker 2: There you go. Yet another court. Joining me is long
- 20:02Speaker 2: term labor man Cameron Milner, former chief of staff to
- 20:05Speaker 2: Labor leader Bill Short, and our director of g XO Strategies. Cameron,
- 20:10Speaker 2: thank you for your time. Look this national conference, it
- 20:13Speaker 2: goes for three days. You've been a few of them yourself.
- 20:16Speaker 2: What strapped you most on day one?
- 20:20Speaker 10: Well, it's a stale imitation of labor conferences past. I mean,
- 20:24Speaker 10: labor used to be about ideas and debates and contests
- 20:27Speaker 10: of ideas, rather than looking like a pale imitation of
- 20:31Speaker 10: the Prime Minister, you know, insipid and about a shallow
- 20:33Speaker 10: an upturned dish.
- 20:34Speaker 2: I mean, this is the problem. Is that is it?
- 20:36Speaker 10: Labor didn't have anything to say today. I mean a
- 20:39Speaker 10: shopping list of spending is not an ideas, it's not
- 20:42Speaker 10: a platform. So what's what filled the space? Pauline Hanson
- 20:45Speaker 10: filled the space. Pauline Hanson is living rent free in
- 20:48Speaker 10: Alberize's head. They're panicked by her presence, They're panicked by
- 20:51Speaker 10: the fact that they're actually being confronted by an opponent
- 20:54Speaker 10: who actually has to your point, earlier, has been around
- 20:56Speaker 10: for three decades. Is Prin has got some ideas and
- 21:00Speaker 10: wants to see Australia heading a different direction. And it's
- 21:02Speaker 10: challenging Labor and Albanese and the government even with ninety
- 21:06Speaker 10: four seats.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Let me let me wonder, Cameron, whether there's some you know,
- 21:14Speaker 2: little main game played here, like focusing on one nation.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Is there another agenda here?
- 21:20Speaker 2: Like does it say is it a way of saying
- 21:23Speaker 2: the liberals don't count as a way of diminishing the liberals?
- 21:26Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Is it also a.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Way of fury, you know, creating fury and passion in
- 21:32Speaker 2: the labor ranks to get them you know, active and
- 21:35Speaker 2: doing something.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Is it a hate session?
- 21:38Speaker 2: I don't you know? Is one nation a threat or
- 21:40Speaker 2: is it a tool for for the for the Labor Party? Well,
- 21:46Speaker 2: it'll be a threat in time.
- 21:47Speaker 10: Right now, the polls say that a vote for Pauline
- 21:49Speaker 10: is actually a vote for Albanese. Albanies will actually get
- 21:51Speaker 10: returned with a smaller majority. But if you're a dave
- 21:54Speaker 10: at the Carbrook golf Club watching tonight's news, you know,
- 21:57Speaker 10: you know, looking at what the ILP national conference.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Is about, was about labor ideas.
- 22:01Speaker 10: Was it about labor policy, agenda or a platform for
- 22:03Speaker 10: the future. It was about Paul enhanced and one nation.
- 22:06Speaker 10: Speaker after speaker after speaker, you know, mentioning one nation.
- 22:09Speaker 10: I mean it was pathetic entry. I mean, this is
- 22:11Speaker 10: the Labor Party conference. They're talking about one nation.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Now. The economic policies, such as they were, there was
- 22:19Speaker 2: absolutely nothing about improving productivity and growth right and it
- 22:24Speaker 2: was everything, if there was anything at all, is about
- 22:26Speaker 2: how to grow, you know, grab more of a shrinking pie,
- 22:29Speaker 2: you know your bit, especially in new tax people demanding
- 22:34Speaker 2: a new tax on gas exports. But the Treasurer did
- 22:37Speaker 2: today refuse to you know, he did refuse to rule
- 22:40Speaker 2: out this twenty five percent tax on gas exports beyond
- 22:44Speaker 2: the short term.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Have listened.
- 22:47Speaker 2: That is not on the government's agenda. We're focused like
- 22:50Speaker 2: how the next election money, well, not for the foreseeable future.
- 22:54Speaker 10: So the reason why that is not on the government's
- 22:56Speaker 10: agenda is because we've got other more pressing, more important Thanks.
- 22:59Speaker 2: To honestly Cameron, you he should be saying, look, do
- 23:04Speaker 2: we are you crazy? We wanted to kill the gas
- 23:07Speaker 2: industry and gas investment here, but no, it's we might
- 23:11Speaker 2: do it later, and given what happened to capital gain
- 23:13Speaker 2: snacks promises, it may well do somethly. It seems to
- 23:17Speaker 2: be all about spashion grab.
- 23:20Speaker 10: It is, And it's all tax and spend, isn't And
- 23:22Speaker 10: there's no there's no pride in actually having a balanced budget.
- 23:25Speaker 10: There's no pride in paying down our national debt any longer.
- 23:27Speaker 10: In labor, I mean, you know, Keating would be rolling
- 23:29Speaker 10: in his grave and others in the previously, you know,
- 23:32Speaker 10: I mean this, labor used to be good economic managers
- 23:35Speaker 10: in my view, like this, you know, it's been trashed
- 23:37Speaker 10: since Swan and Chalmers hasn't done any better. And and
- 23:40Speaker 10: now it is to your point, it's all tax and grab.
- 23:43Speaker 10: It's it's there's no responsibility being taken. And to your point,
- 23:46Speaker 10: goodness sake, let's get back to being a productive nation.
- 23:48Speaker 10: Let's get back to making some things, you know, sensibly
- 23:51Speaker 10: and actually drive wages up because we're good at what
- 23:53Speaker 10: we're doing, not just because we're being given government debt
- 23:56Speaker 10: and government handouts.
- 23:59Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not the hawk government, I have to say,
- 24:03Speaker 2: the hawk labor government.
- 24:04Speaker 1: In fact.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I think we got a warning about where this
- 24:07Speaker 2: hard left kind of politics lead, like I say, the
- 24:09Speaker 2: sort of smash and grab or tax and spend. Today's
- 24:13Speaker 2: ABS figures show the unemployment rate nationally was steady at
- 24:17Speaker 2: four point four percent.
- 24:19Speaker 1: But look where the big trouble is.
- 24:21Speaker 2: It's in Victoria under the criminally incompetent state government there
- 24:27Speaker 2: with the biggest debt of any state government in the country.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Unemployment they're rising to above five percent, way more than
- 24:36Speaker 2: any other state. Now, Cameron, in labor circles, is Victoria
- 24:41Speaker 2: now being discussed as a warning to the left against
- 24:46Speaker 2: wishing what has actually been destroying Victoria?
- 24:52Speaker 10: Well, I mean the big bills ended up in big debt,
- 24:54Speaker 10: hasn't it. I mean, and this is the problem is
- 24:55Speaker 10: that is that Victoria is an object lesson in not
- 24:58Speaker 10: what to do.
- 24:59Speaker 2: I mean, look at Malan asks, look at Chris Mins.
- 25:01Speaker 10: They are true labor premiers with a labor right agenda,
- 25:04Speaker 10: in a moderate labor agenda compared to the hard left
- 25:06Speaker 10: agenda we've seen in Victoria.
- 25:08Speaker 2: And look where the polls are. People are actually supporting Allen.
- 25:10Speaker 10: Ascus, They'll re elect Mens, and Allen is on the
- 25:12Speaker 10: ropes in Victoria.
- 25:13Speaker 2: So to your point, yes, I mean the.
- 25:15Speaker 10: Hard left policies lead to harder debt and harder problems
- 25:18Speaker 10: for the community and economy.
- 25:20Speaker 2: That doesn't work. Cameron Milner, thank you very much for
- 25:25Speaker 2: your time speaking of just cent around the premier in Victoria.
- 25:29Speaker 2: There is now talk that her allies are dropping her.
- 25:34Speaker 2: There's even discussions in the national conference behind the scenes. Wow.
- 25:41Speaker 2: I hope that voters get a chance to say exactly
- 25:44Speaker 2: what they've thought of her. Shocking mismanagement of the state,
- 25:50Speaker 2: astonishing mismanagement. After the break a shock in Ukraine in
- 25:54Speaker 2: the middle of its war for survival, the President sacks
- 25:57Speaker 2: both the Defense Minister and the commander in chief of
- 26:01Speaker 2: the military, General Jack Keene. And what this means for
- 26:04Speaker 2: the war, how armies will fight in the future. There
- 26:12Speaker 2: are two big wars going on right now that are
- 26:14Speaker 2: teaching the world how to fight or how not. They
- 26:18Speaker 2: are deciding our future. So we've got to learn. I
- 26:21Speaker 2: hope our generals are watching. And both these wars, it's
- 26:26Speaker 2: not just the war in Iran, but the one in Ukraine,
- 26:29Speaker 2: have just gone bad for the West, or so it
- 26:32Speaker 2: seems now. Ukraine is the most dramatic development. But let
- 26:35Speaker 2: me quickly deal with the war in Iran first. That's
- 26:38Speaker 2: teaching us, of course, that even the world's greatest superpower
- 26:41Speaker 2: with the most advanced weapons ever seen, cannot conquer even
- 26:46Speaker 2: a country as relatively weak as Iran just by bombing
- 26:50Speaker 2: it from the air or blockading it with ships. The
- 26:54Speaker 2: US has just completed its twelfth straight day of bombing
- 26:57Speaker 2: in Iran, but Iran's allies in Yemen just attack two
- 27:00Speaker 2: more ships in the Red Sea on the other side
- 27:02Speaker 2: of the Saudi Peninsula, leaving Donald Trump to issue blood
- 27:05Speaker 2: curdling threats posting this. From this point forward, anytime the
- 27:10Speaker 2: Islamic Republic of around shoots of the ship it straighted
- 27:13Speaker 2: for moves, whether it would be by missile, rock and drone,
- 27:15Speaker 2: or any other device or weapon, the United States will
- 27:18Speaker 2: bomb and destroy one brine or power plant, including those
- 27:22Speaker 2: located next to or in the capital city of Tehran. Well,
- 27:28Speaker 2: you don't need to threaten if you're actually doing the job.
- 27:30Speaker 2: So it tells you something about the power of asymmetric
- 27:33Speaker 2: warfare these days, and of course, the fear of the
- 27:36Speaker 2: West of losing even a single soldier. It tells you
- 27:41Speaker 2: something that a rebel terrorist army like the Houties can
- 27:45Speaker 2: then help push back against the US and its Saudi
- 27:49Speaker 2: Arabian ally.
- 27:51Speaker 11: Not for that, the armed forces will continue their naval
- 27:55Speaker 11: operations against the Saudi enemy and will persist in enforcing
- 28:00Speaker 11: a siege for a siege equation.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Those hooties in particularly that spokesman, they love shouting at people.
- 28:10Speaker 2: There's something in their culture there. Now, this is already
- 28:13Speaker 2: one lesson there. Okay, you do not commit to a
- 28:16Speaker 2: war if you don't think it's worth the life of
- 28:20Speaker 2: your soldiers. High tech a loan bombing from a high
- 28:23Speaker 2: altitude is not going to win you territory. Lesson. But
- 28:29Speaker 2: in Ukraine huge developments. President Vladimir Zelensky last week shocked
- 28:35Speaker 2: Ukrainians by firing his brilliant young defense minister, thirty five
- 28:40Speaker 2: year old Mikhailo Federov, the man in the middle there
- 28:43Speaker 2: next to Zelenski. Now, Federov was clashing with the head
- 28:46Speaker 2: of Ukraine's military, the Russian trained Alexander t Sevski, who
- 28:50Speaker 2: was a very tough man, but Russian born and with
- 28:53Speaker 2: a reputation of being a Russian style authoritarian military leader.
- 28:58Speaker 2: He was trained in Russia's not being careful enough with
- 29:03Speaker 2: the lives of his troops, for instance, hogging the decision
- 29:06Speaker 2: making and he's the firing of the Defense Minister in
- 29:11Speaker 2: the favor of len of Sirski, who was clashing with him.
- 29:15Speaker 2: That's caused huge protests against Zelenski, who was accused.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Of just getting rid of a young rival.
- 29:22Speaker 2: And Zelenski's now folded and fired Sirski as well. Incredible.
- 29:29Speaker 2: That said, he's replaced a b with a brilliant young general,
- 29:32Speaker 2: Mikhaelo Drapatyi, who has been famous ever since a decade
- 29:36Speaker 2: ago he crashed his armored vehicle over a barricade put
- 29:40Speaker 2: up by pro Russian militias to save trapped Ukrainian police.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Is that kind of daring to kind of guy make decisions,
- 29:48Speaker 2: take responsibility? So what does this actually mean for how
- 29:52Speaker 2: we fight or should well? The reason the sacked Defense
- 29:56Speaker 2: Minister was so popular was that he embraced the new technology.
- 30:00Speaker 2: He got, for instance, el Musk to turn off his
- 30:03Speaker 2: starling satellites used by Russian soldiers, helping to blind them
- 30:08Speaker 2: to developments on the battlefield like the drone warfare. It's
- 30:11Speaker 2: been a huge success. He also pushed more democratic decision
- 30:16Speaker 2: making by soldiers down the line of command, including by
- 30:20Speaker 2: giving units points for every kill points that they could
- 30:23Speaker 2: then use in a kind of Amazon site that could
- 30:26Speaker 2: spend them there to order exactly the right kind of
- 30:28Speaker 2: drones of weapons they wanted for the particular targets they faced.
- 30:34Speaker 2: That's the kind of democratic decision making that was against
- 30:38Speaker 2: the training and the character of the now sacked commander
- 30:41Speaker 2: in chief went along with it a bit, but he
- 30:43Speaker 2: didn't like a lot of it. The new commander, now,
- 30:46Speaker 2: let's replaced them, very different. He is embracing this new
- 30:49Speaker 2: kind of warfighting. And like I say, I do hope
- 30:53Speaker 2: Australia's generals are watching events over there. I spoke earlier
- 30:57Speaker 2: to General Jack Keane, former Vice chiefs Staff of the
- 31:00Speaker 2: United States Army, is now chairman of the Institute for
- 31:04Speaker 2: the Study of War, General Jack Kane, what a pleasure
- 31:07Speaker 2: to see you again. Look Ukraine. Now, on the surface
- 31:11Speaker 2: of it, the president firing both is defense Minister and
- 31:15Speaker 2: the commander in chief, I mean the Russian millibloggers. They're celebrating.
- 31:20Speaker 2: This is great for Russia. It looks bad, is it?
- 31:26Speaker 1: You know, yes or no?
- 31:27Speaker 6: And I don't mean to equivocate here, but first of all,
- 31:30Speaker 6: in firing the Minister of Defense, Federal Off who's in
- 31:35Speaker 6: his mid thirties, very imaginative, creative, and he was really
- 31:40Speaker 6: rocking the defense establishment, just not only in terms of
- 31:45Speaker 6: really forcing technology to get done quicker, much more imaginative
- 31:50Speaker 6: use of that technology, but forcing the generals who grew
- 31:55Speaker 6: up in the Russian system, in the Russian education system
- 32:00Speaker 6: were considerably more conservative, and particularly the head of the
- 32:07Speaker 6: Ukraine military as Serski, and they were at odds because
- 32:13Speaker 6: they were completely different. Serski was pushing back. He much
- 32:17Speaker 6: more wrote, much more dogmatic, much more deliberate, and Federoff
- 32:22Speaker 6: I wanted to move faster and crew be much more
- 32:26Speaker 6: adaptive to what Russia was doing on the battlefield. And
- 32:30Speaker 6: Zelenski took Sirski's side on that and removed Federoff, and
- 32:36Speaker 6: that caused a huge upswell inside the country, and I
- 32:41Speaker 6: must say even amongst some allies, and I had an
- 32:44Speaker 6: opportunity to register my own opinion. I do have access
- 32:48Speaker 6: to the President's office and also to the people around him,
- 32:52Speaker 6: and I thought it was a huge mistake. And then
- 32:57Speaker 6: he recovered from that by picking the most imaginative general
- 33:01Speaker 6: to takes Showski's place. So everybody is applauding the new
- 33:06Speaker 6: military head, but also whish that Federoff was still there.
- 33:10Speaker 6: He offered feder Off another position in the government, but
- 33:14Speaker 6: he declined it because he wanted to be to go
- 33:18Speaker 6: back in the job as Minister of Defense. So yes,
- 33:21Speaker 6: good decision and new military had bad decision in removing
- 33:26Speaker 6: the Minister of Defense.
- 33:28Speaker 2: Well, there's not a permanent replacement yet announced as an
- 33:32Speaker 2: interim one, so who knows Fetteran might come back. But
- 33:35Speaker 2: I have to say, what a contrast with Russia. Do
- 33:38Speaker 2: you really think that Russians would have allowed protests in
- 33:41Speaker 2: the streets like that and then change Putin changes his
- 33:44Speaker 2: mind as a consequence.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I think the idea that you know in.
- 33:49Speaker 2: Some parts of America that oh, this is Zelenski, he
- 33:53Speaker 2: is a dictator. We see here that essentially there's a
- 33:57Speaker 2: new democratic spirit in Ukraine, and I think that it
- 34:00Speaker 2: is great. But this really is about the future of
- 34:02Speaker 2: warfare is and it I mean, for me, we have
- 34:05Speaker 2: got to learn from Ukraine about how a democracy wins
- 34:10Speaker 2: by fighting democratically, pushing the decision making down the chain
- 34:14Speaker 2: of command, data driven, let people decide how best to
- 34:18Speaker 2: fight the units that are out in the field. In
- 34:21Speaker 2: a way, it's the model for our own sas really
- 34:24Speaker 2: not a regular army, but the sas, the units themselves
- 34:28Speaker 2: sort of decide their weapons and how to do it.
- 34:31Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. The Ukrainians have clearly
- 34:35Speaker 6: have a very strong chain of command, and they're very
- 34:38Speaker 6: good at the tactical level of war. And they're clearly
- 34:43Speaker 6: remarkable and hats off to their defense industry that they
- 34:47Speaker 6: have built and how fast they can get technology into
- 34:52Speaker 6: the hands of their troops. It's nothing short or remarkable
- 34:56Speaker 6: on a given day, so our audience can appreciate. On
- 34:59Speaker 6: a single given day in Ukraine, the Ukrainians have up
- 35:03Speaker 6: in the air ten thousand drones in one day, and
- 35:08Speaker 6: we don't have ten thousand drones in the total United
- 35:11Speaker 6: States Army. And we're trying to move in that direction
- 35:13Speaker 6: and get our defense industry moving, which is considerably more
- 35:17Speaker 6: challenging than what Ukraine is doing.
- 35:19Speaker 2: And believe me, this.
- 35:20Speaker 6: Year, Ukraine will manufacture by the end of the year
- 35:24Speaker 6: eight million drones. And these are drones, not just air
- 35:28Speaker 6: drones that we see and dominate, but unmanned ground vehicles.
- 35:34Speaker 6: They accomplish something never done in warfare. They pushed Russians
- 35:38Speaker 6: off a position that were being defended by humans and
- 35:42Speaker 6: they pushed them off to the position with no humans
- 35:45Speaker 6: in the fight. First time in warfare. We are likely
- 35:49Speaker 6: going to see a chapter and verse coming, not just
- 35:53Speaker 6: in Ukraine, but in other countries as a result of
- 35:56Speaker 6: what the Ukrainian's are proven. And then at sea they
- 35:59Speaker 6: have defeated the Black Sea Navy of Russia. And they
- 36:04Speaker 6: don't own a navy themselves.
- 36:05Speaker 1: They did it but with.
- 36:06Speaker 6: Surface drones, aerial drones and sub surface drones.
- 36:13Speaker 1: Quite remarkable.
- 36:15Speaker 2: It is extraordinary. It is extraordinary. Now Iran, which is
- 36:22Speaker 2: a very different war. I mean America is fighting at
- 36:24Speaker 2: high tech from the air, no boots on the ground.
- 36:28Speaker 2: When I say high tech, I mean big tech. Not
- 36:31Speaker 2: so much of the drones, although that's coming now You've
- 36:34Speaker 2: now got sea drones. There are a few of them
- 36:37Speaker 2: in the straitup for Moorz. Why hasn't the US, though,
- 36:41Speaker 2: launched a full scale attack on Iran? Why only limited
- 36:45Speaker 2: bombing twelve days of it? Why not go all in?
- 36:48Speaker 6: I do believe Andrew, that we are on a definite
- 36:52Speaker 6: path to return to major combat operations that would involve
- 36:57Speaker 6: Israel and the United States. I think that is the
- 37:00Speaker 6: path we're on. Is there's some negotiations that the Iranians
- 37:05Speaker 6: want to do here. Of course they want to negotiate.
- 37:09Speaker 6: Why now they want to negotiate because they want to
- 37:11Speaker 6: stop the United States from imposing their will by firing
- 37:15Speaker 6: on them and taking away their military capabilities. They want
- 37:20Speaker 6: to stop that, as they did successfully back on April
- 37:24Speaker 6: seventh and April of the eighth. They want to replay that.
- 37:27Speaker 6: I don't believe that's going to happen. Pakistanis and Guitaris
- 37:30Speaker 6: are supporting in on that, but I don't think that's
- 37:33Speaker 6: where the President is and his team around them. I
- 37:36Speaker 6: believe where they are frustrated. They want to get the
- 37:40Speaker 6: straighttion of moves eventually open and also return to major
- 37:45Speaker 6: combat operations and finish what they started out to do
- 37:49Speaker 6: in terms of assigned military objectives economic pressure. To be sure,
- 37:53Speaker 6: Secretary Treasury has put the sanctions back on.
- 37:56Speaker 2: It's good news.
- 37:57Speaker 6: We got a naval blockade going as well, and that's
- 38:00Speaker 6: also good news. But the military pressure and economic pressure
- 38:05Speaker 6: is essential. I also believe that we need to use
- 38:09Speaker 6: the CIA and the Masade to undermine the regime and
- 38:13Speaker 6: also to assist the Iranian people in their resistance. I
- 38:17Speaker 6: think that is a major objective. We've had some success
- 38:20Speaker 6: at doing this in the past in our history. The
- 38:23Speaker 6: Massad has got incredible contacts inside of Iran and I
- 38:30Speaker 6: think we should be about that business as well well.
- 38:34Speaker 2: So some boots on the ground, but that may be
- 38:36Speaker 2: you know, sneakers, slippers, something soft and they're silent on
- 38:41Speaker 2: the ground. I think Mo Sad will be all over Iran.
- 38:44Speaker 2: I mean, their penetration has been unbelievable. General Jack King,
- 38:48Speaker 2: thank you so much indeed for your time. Yeah.
- 38:52Speaker 1: Great talking to Andrew, thank you very much.
- 38:56Speaker 2: As to break, don't till dj Elbert, Britain's new prime
- 39:00Speaker 2: Minister's first big call is cheaper beer and cheaper duftuff.
- 39:11Speaker 2: You know, Britain's also in the stook really so to me,
- 39:14Speaker 2: it's extraordinary the Britain's new Prome minister comes in takes
- 39:17Speaker 2: over it without an election. By the way, you know,
- 39:20Speaker 2: these are the new prime minister, the seventh in Britain
- 39:22Speaker 2: in ten years, and just the first thing he announces,
- 39:26Speaker 2: almost the very first big decision he announces to get
- 39:30Speaker 2: Britain back on his feet or Flattner's back. Andy Burnham
- 39:35Speaker 2: has said twenty percent cut to the business rates that
- 39:39Speaker 2: are charged to pubs, clubs and live music venues only
- 39:42Speaker 2: to them, so you know, cheaper beer and cheaper duf duff.
- 39:48Speaker 2: This is going to put the great back into Britain.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Joining me from London is gb News star presenter Patrick
- 39:55Speaker 2: Christie's Patrick, great to see you again. I was thinking
- 39:58Speaker 2: I shouldn't actually publicize this because you might just give
- 40:00Speaker 2: a anthony, have an easy inspiration for get another hand
- 40:04Speaker 2: out that does nothing for productivity.
- 40:06Speaker 1: But how does this one make Britain more.
- 40:08Speaker 2: Competitive, you know, richer earning its way back again to
- 40:12Speaker 2: you know, be great.
- 40:15Speaker 12: Well, it doesn't, unfortunately, Andrew, as you're correctly identified. So far,
- 40:19Speaker 12: we have had a VAT cut on energy bills that
- 40:22Speaker 12: is unfunded. We've got a two pound bus fare cap
- 40:25Speaker 12: that is largely unfunded, twenty percent VAT cut on pubs
- 40:30Speaker 12: and clubs. As you've just said, they're unfunded. What's happening
- 40:33Speaker 12: here is that they are rolling the wicket for massive,
- 40:36Speaker 12: massive tax hikes. And when they do that they can say, ha,
- 40:40Speaker 12: look we at least we gave you the opportunity to
- 40:42Speaker 12: leave a light on your spare room and you can
- 40:44Speaker 12: get the bus to your pub. Or you might be
- 40:47Speaker 12: able to pay about one pound less for a pint
- 40:49Speaker 12: of Carlsburg.
- 40:50Speaker 2: So aren't you.
- 40:51Speaker 12: Aren't you grateful with what we've done?
- 40:53Speaker 6: You ungrateful?
- 40:54Speaker 2: So and so.
- 40:55Speaker 12: But this is the main problem here is that Andy
- 40:58Speaker 12: Burnham is a man who doesn't think that there's anything
- 41:01Speaker 12: fundamentally wrong with Britain. He just thinks you can tinker
- 41:05Speaker 12: around the edges. You know, yesterday, for example, we had
- 41:08Speaker 12: a mega migrant dinghy come across the English Channel with
- 41:11Speaker 12: more than eighty people on it. We've got massive crime figures,
- 41:15Speaker 12: we've got issues with the welfare state, with the benefit system,
- 41:18Speaker 12: huge issues with defense. At the moment we are not
- 41:21Speaker 12: funding defense correctly. There is no big announcement or anything
- 41:25Speaker 12: like that. What he's trying to do is palm the
- 41:27Speaker 12: plubs off by saying, here you go, here's one.
- 41:30Speaker 11: P off your pint of beer.
- 41:32Speaker 12: And it's not really going to wash.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Well, yes, considering for the pubs, I think it works
- 41:40Speaker 2: out about two thousand dollars a.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Year off, but really, whoop you do?
- 41:46Speaker 2: Meanwhile, of course, you know, despite all the handouts so
- 41:49Speaker 2: cheaper mere, the governor still has woke as now you've
- 41:54Speaker 2: got news that public servants are going to face punishment
- 41:57Speaker 2: if they miss gender colleagues, if they don't use the
- 42:00Speaker 2: colleague's preferred name or their gender if they're transgender. Now, look,
- 42:07Speaker 2: I believe in good manners and a little bit of
- 42:09Speaker 2: kindness and all that. Is that what this is about?
- 42:11Speaker 2: Or is there something more?
- 42:13Speaker 12: No, this is absolutely ridiculous. If one day I said
- 42:16Speaker 12: to you, Andrew, I want you to refer to me
- 42:18Speaker 12: as Patricia now, and instead of this suit I put
- 42:20Speaker 12: address on and you decided that you didn't fancy doing
- 42:23Speaker 12: that because it would be absolutely bonkers, then you could
- 42:25Speaker 12: face massive, massive sanctions if you works in our civil service.
- 42:28Speaker 12: There is an interesting exemption here, so if you persistently
- 42:32Speaker 12: misgender or dead name someone, if you have a neurological condition,
- 42:38Speaker 12: then you are basically allowed to get away with doing it.
- 42:40Speaker 12: But in this case, the neurological condition would be reality,
- 42:44Speaker 12: wouldn't it, So that's quite a good way out of it.
- 42:47Speaker 12: I'm surprised that the Civil Service have actually got any
- 42:49Speaker 12: time to do this, because they're too busy at the
- 42:52Speaker 12: moment doing things like listening circles, diversity days and seminars
- 42:57Speaker 12: on microaggressions all during working out. It just shows how
- 43:01Speaker 12: out of touch people who are actually in charge of
- 43:03Speaker 12: making these laws in our country, in charge of actually
- 43:06Speaker 12: designing them and drawing them up and all of that stuff.
- 43:09Speaker 12: How out of touch they are with wider reality.
- 43:15Speaker 2: Now, Patrick, I've had bad news today. I booked myself
- 43:22Speaker 2: and a cruise I've wanted to do for decades, going
- 43:25Speaker 2: down the Danube and the Rhine to Amsterdam, my dad's
- 43:28Speaker 2: old stamping ground. Now I read there's such a bad
- 43:33Speaker 2: heat wave and drought that the rivers are too low
- 43:36Speaker 2: for some of the boats. One of the cruises I've
- 43:38Speaker 2: taken has already been canceled. I'm on tenderhooks. Now. Who
- 43:42Speaker 2: are the people blaming? Is that the El Nino effect
- 43:44Speaker 2: that's really hit Europe? Winds bringing hot air from Africa,
- 43:50Speaker 2: the usual whipping boy, of course, global warming. Let's not
- 43:53Speaker 2: forget that or something else.
- 43:56Speaker 12: Well, I'm afraid it'll have to fall under the something
- 43:58Speaker 12: else category here, Andrew. What's actually happened is that because
- 44:03Speaker 12: we've been on this relentless drive to net zero in
- 44:05Speaker 12: Europe and we have deindustrialized faster than any other part
- 44:09Speaker 12: of the world, at great expense, and the loss of
- 44:11Speaker 12: loads of jobs. By the way, we now do not
- 44:14Speaker 12: actually have enough pollution in the skies to block the
- 44:18Speaker 12: Sun's rays. So we have seen huge, huge heat waves
- 44:23Speaker 12: across especially continental Europe and France. Sorry, in France, there's
- 44:28Speaker 12: been something like four thousand excess deaths as a result
- 44:32Speaker 12: of the latest heat waves. We are during the other
- 44:34Speaker 12: heat wave here, and what they are now saying is
- 44:37Speaker 12: is that because we've not got enough pollution in the skies,
- 44:40Speaker 12: we are in massive, massive trouble and the Sun's rays
- 44:43Speaker 12: are just beaming directly onto people, killing them, starting fires
- 44:47Speaker 12: and essentially draining the rivers. We've got about ten million
- 44:50Speaker 12: people living in Britain now who are currently living under
- 44:52Speaker 12: a hose pipe BAMD. So we are a first world
- 44:55Speaker 12: country but had a bit of heat. We can't even
- 44:57Speaker 12: water our own back gardens unless you are on benefits,
- 45:02Speaker 12: in which case you are allowed to water your guard
- 45:04Speaker 12: which is remarkable as well. So it's just not absolutely bonkers.
- 45:12Speaker 2: Patrick, Can I just thank you for turning up so
- 45:15Speaker 2: spruce and so neat and so will made up because
- 45:19Speaker 2: I didn't notice that you were photographed with a massive
- 45:23Speaker 2: bruise on your head, which I first thought of. Patrick's
- 45:27Speaker 2: got himself into travel. Oh my goodness me and then
- 45:30Speaker 2: I thought saw.
- 45:31Speaker 6: That the.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Cause of this was a humble toy. Explain how on
- 45:38Speaker 2: earth you did that to yourself?
- 45:40Speaker 12: So I have a ten month old son as there.
- 45:42Speaker 12: Anyone who's got children will know you will do anything
- 45:45Speaker 12: to try to make them laugh. The sound of a
- 45:48Speaker 12: baby's giggle is the best sound in the world. He's
- 45:50Speaker 12: got a suction toy which you can stick onto things.
- 45:53Speaker 12: I stuck it to my own forehead and ripped it
- 45:56Speaker 12: off about for about five minutes, solidly about fifty and
- 46:00Speaker 12: it was making him laugh. And then about an hour
- 46:02Speaker 12: later I looked in the mirror and realized I've given
- 46:04Speaker 12: myself what looks like a massive love bite on the
- 46:07Speaker 12: middle of my forehead. And you can't cover it up
- 46:10Speaker 12: with makeup because it's blue, so I'd have to pay
- 46:13Speaker 12: my entire face blue.
- 46:15Speaker 2: When I go on the tunnel. I thought at first
- 46:20Speaker 2: it was a shadow, but no, no, no, where you go,
- 46:23Speaker 2: Patrick Christie is good on you. What a father won't
- 46:26Speaker 2: do for his son. I hope my sons know that too.
- 46:29Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, mate, really appreciate it.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Before I go, I mean, here we go. You know,
- 46:39Speaker 2: we thought we'd seen me. Now, we didn't think we've
- 46:42Speaker 2: seen the ear last. But remember the case of Giggle
- 46:47Speaker 2: versus Tickle, Roxane Tickle. It was actually rock haand Tickle
- 46:50Speaker 2: versus Giggle Giggles a woman women's only website and Roxanne Tickle,
- 46:55Speaker 2: who's transgender, now identifies.
- 46:57Speaker 1: This woman as sued. Of course, you know the whole story.
- 47:00Speaker 2: We've had done here a number of times, sued because
- 47:03Speaker 2: they were being discriminated against right as a woman, and
- 47:09Speaker 2: the federal court said, you are a woman. Under the
- 47:13Speaker 2: new Act that was passed by the Julia Gillard government,
- 47:16Speaker 2: are removing the definition of a woman. You are a
- 47:19Speaker 2: woman because you say you are essentially that's what it said.
- 47:22Speaker 2: That's being appealed to the High Court. We now have
- 47:24Speaker 2: another case. We now have another case. A Gold Coast
- 47:29Speaker 2: pole dancing studio that says it too is just for women,
- 47:34Speaker 2: is being sued for thirty thousand dollars in damages after
- 47:38Speaker 2: it refused membership to another transgender person identifying as female. Now,
- 47:46Speaker 2: I know it'd be nice to include her if you could,
- 47:49Speaker 2: or him, you know, but not if you don't think
- 47:53Speaker 2: your customers would feel comfortable. And the owner of the
- 47:57Speaker 2: studio says they didn't they didn't feel comfortable the vibe
- 47:59Speaker 2: shift couple of people. Well, fine, if you think they
- 48:04Speaker 2: should do it, whatever, leave it up to people. But
- 48:07Speaker 2: here is the problem. The court has actually said if
- 48:11Speaker 2: she says he's a woman, she is a woman, and
- 48:14Speaker 2: you must buy law. And this is the crazy thing.
- 48:16Speaker 2: And what's even worse is that Julia Gillard, the former
- 48:20Speaker 2: Prime Minister, has said three weeks ago old times of
- 48:22Speaker 2: change and we weren't really thinking about that. She didn't
- 48:25Speaker 2: know this would be a consequence. That's how dumb they were.
- 48:28Speaker 2: That's how easily they pushed through the social legislation, never
- 48:31Speaker 2: thinking it through. Well, if that's the case, if Parliament
- 48:35Speaker 2: accidentally passed the law that's leading to these absurd restrictions
- 48:39Speaker 2: in our freedom to choose her own company, then Parliament
- 48:42Speaker 2: must then reconsider and pass a new law clarifying that
- 48:47Speaker 2: a woman is and at our born female, et cetera,
- 48:49Speaker 2: et cetera. Love you, this is trouble for this woman.
- 48:52Speaker 2: That's it for me. Coming up next to Sherry, hosted
- 48:55Speaker 2: by the most excellent James McPherson. Good note,