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The Late Debate | 25 February · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Late wait general, welcome the late bads.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. I'm pretty sure Anthony Albanese's media advisors are
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Speaker 3: working to get Peter Dutton elected.
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Speaker 2: We'll show you why a little later.
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Speaker 3: Plus, when we look at the papers, Labour's plan to
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Speaker 3: resettle criminal non citizens in n RU HiT's a snag.
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Speaker 3: And Australian universities want funds dedicated to improving roads redirected
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Speaker 3: to them for research because we all know universities need
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Speaker 3: more money. All of that when we look at the
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Speaker 3: news a little later, but first, A Captain Cook's statue
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Speaker 3: in Melbourne's Fitzroy Gardens has been attacked, just weeks after
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Speaker 3: it was reinstalled after being repaired from the last act
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Speaker 3: of vandalism back in February last year. Vandal's not the
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Speaker 3: statue off its pedestal, and in the early hours of
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Speaker 3: this morning they used an angle grinder in an attempt
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Speaker 3: to soar off the statues head. Three unidentified vandals fled
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Speaker 3: before they were able to decapitate the statue after being
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Speaker 3: interrupted by a security patrol. Now here's the first lesson
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Speaker 3: that our councils need to understand. It's pretty obvious that
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Speaker 3: statues like Captain Cook call Queen Victoria, those statues that
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Speaker 3: remind us of our British past, are targets for vandals,
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Speaker 3: and so it only stands to reason that every council
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Speaker 3: around the country does what the City of Melbourne had
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Speaker 3: done with this statue, install lighting, CCTV cameras and security patrols.
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Speaker 3: Here in Sydney, the city of Randwick is debating whether
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Speaker 3: or not they should have CCTV cameras monitoring a Captain
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Speaker 3: Cook statue here that's been.
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Speaker 2: Vandalized, not once but twice.
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Speaker 3: It begs belief that they're debating whether or not CCTV
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Speaker 3: cameras should be installed.
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Speaker 2: They'll tell you why they're debating it, though.
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Speaker 3: The Greens Mayor philipp at Veach has said on the
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Speaker 3: public record she doesn't think the statue should be there
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Speaker 3: at all because it's a sad reminder of our colonial past,
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Speaker 3: and so they're going to debate whether or not there
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Speaker 3: should be security. Melbourne's Lord Mayor Nicholas Reese and credit
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Speaker 3: for putting in security to protect the statue. Otherwise the
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Speaker 3: head of the statue would have been locked off this morning.
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Speaker 3: But have a listen to what he said, because I
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Speaker 3: don't think he still quite gets it.
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Speaker 2: In a statement, he said.
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Speaker 3: And I quote, our security team observed Cook's cottage and
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Speaker 3: the Captain Cook's statue being damaged early on Tuesday morning
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Speaker 3: and implemented measures that prompt defenders to leave the scene. Well,
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Speaker 3: so far, so good, But have listen to this next part.
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Speaker 3: He says, while there are a range of views on
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Speaker 3: statues and memorials, each time a monument is damaged, it's
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Speaker 3: ultimately the ratepayer footing the bill, and that is unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: What I don't like about that statement is it's unnecessary.
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Speaker 3: To qualify it with while there are a range of
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Speaker 3: views on statues and memorials, there are a range of
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Speaker 3: views on all sorts of things, including crimes. But saying
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Speaker 3: that almost gives cover for those who commit these crimes.
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Speaker 3: It's like they're subterly saying, look, we understand why you
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Speaker 3: did it. And when criminals hear that sort of language
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Speaker 3: and retrick from our elected officials, well, no wonder they
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Speaker 3: continue to behave in this way. Help listen to police
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Speaker 3: Detective Inspector Martin McClain.
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Speaker 2: He gets it.
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Speaker 4: The community has a pretty deal view on people who
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Speaker 4: behave in this manner in public.
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Speaker 5: I don't see them as protests.
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Speaker 1: I'll see them as criminals and that's how we'll deal
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Speaker 1: with them.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they're criminals.
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Speaker 3: And for the Lord Mayer of Melbourne to say, you know,
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Speaker 3: the problem here is ultimately rate payers have to pay
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Speaker 3: money to fix the statue. That's probably the last concern.
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Speaker 3: To be honest, it's not that much money. It's more
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Speaker 3: an attack on our history, our culture, and our country
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Speaker 3: than an attack on rate payer money. The problem I
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Speaker 3: see with this, Liz and Caleb, it's that if our
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Speaker 3: elected officials don't talk tough on this, then we're going
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Speaker 3: to get to a point where this happens so often
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Speaker 3: that Lord mayors across the country will say, you know what,
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Speaker 3: it's just not worth it. It's too expensive for rate payers.
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Speaker 3: We're better off just not having these statues at all.
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Speaker 3: Problems solved, and there goes the culture.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 6: The fact that Detective Inspector maclain even has to point
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Speaker 6: out that these people are criminals and not protesters, I
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Speaker 6: think probably gives you an indication of just how far
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Speaker 6: we've come or how far we've fallen, probably more pertinently.
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Speaker 1: And the question is why do people do this? And
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Speaker 1: there's two reasons.
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Speaker 6: The first, of course, is the cultural reason that they
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Speaker 6: do it. And when they're going after a statue of
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Speaker 6: Captain Corp who and I know I say this every time,
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Speaker 6: but I'm going to say.
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Speaker 1: It again, was not on the first fleet.
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Speaker 6: He had nothing to do with the colonization of Australia.
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Speaker 6: He was murdered nine years before the first fleet rocked up. Sorry,
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Speaker 6: I've just got to point it out just how historically
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Speaker 6: illiterate these people are. But they're doing it to say
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Speaker 6: we hate this country, we hate the basis of this country.
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Speaker 6: And I'll come back to that in a moment. But
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Speaker 6: the second reason they do it is because they keep
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Speaker 6: damn well getting away with them. How many times have
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Speaker 6: we heard stories of statues of Queen Victoria and Captain
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Speaker 6: Cook and whoever else, Matthew Flinders. The list goes on,
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Speaker 6: in the last five or so years being vandalized. Now
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Speaker 6: I tried to find tonight an example of any of
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Speaker 6: those people being convicted. You've had in the last couple
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Speaker 6: of months a bunch of people charged with vandalizing statues
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Speaker 6: in Sydney. I couldn't find anyone who's been charged with
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Speaker 6: vandalizing a statue in Melbourne.
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Speaker 1: A few people have been charged.
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Speaker 6: In Sydney, but the only person I could find in
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Speaker 6: the last five years who has been convicted of vandalizing a.
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Speaker 1: Statue with a Green staffer.
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Speaker 6: Who in Sydney vandalized the Captain Cook statue in Hyde
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Speaker 6: Park in twenty twenty. He spray painted it with this
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Speaker 6: sort of anti colonial messaging. All he got was a
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Speaker 6: fine of one seven hundred and sixty dollars. So that's
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Speaker 6: hardly a disincentive to go and do it, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you've been.
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Speaker 6: Wanting to do it recently, you've looked and gone, well,
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Speaker 6: no one's been done for it since twenty twenty, so
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Speaker 6: why wouldn't I go and do it?
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Speaker 1: And we need to get seriously.
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Speaker 6: Tough on it if they are doing it, as I say,
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Speaker 6: because it is an attack on our country. We've been
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Speaker 6: talking recently about hate laws for people who do acts
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Speaker 6: against sacred places when it comes to religion. If you
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Speaker 6: attack a synagogue, if you attack a mosque, if you
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Speaker 6: attack a church, et cetera. We've been saying, well that
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Speaker 6: ought to be a separate offense, that is a hateful
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Speaker 6: offense against people because of their religion. Well, why don't
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Speaker 6: we say that if you're attacking a Captain Cook statue.
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Speaker 6: Clearly it is a hateful offense against the people of Australia,
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Speaker 6: and so it ought to have a hefty penalty. In Victoria,
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Speaker 6: the highest penalty you can get for vandalism is ten
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Speaker 6: years in prison. But when was the last time you
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Speaker 6: heard of someone getting ten years in prison for vandalism,
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Speaker 6: let alone someone going to prison for vandalizing a statue.
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Speaker 6: Because I couldn't find any of them. We have to
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Speaker 6: get tough on this or it will not stop.
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Speaker 7: Indeed, I mean I was shocked to read today that
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Speaker 7: eighteen statues, two of them were beheaded, which was Paul
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Speaker 7: Keating and Kevin Rudd in Victoria in January alone.
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Speaker 5: So you know these guys are on sprees.
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Speaker 7: But yes, I think it points to the fact that
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Speaker 7: this isn't necessarily like a oh.
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to show those colonialists.
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Speaker 7: Like you've pointed out, these guys don't even know their history.
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Speaker 7: They don't know that Cook had absolutely nothing to do
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Speaker 7: with the colonization of Australia wasn't a part of it,
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Speaker 7: wasn't a participant. And yet these are, i would say,
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Speaker 7: just angry ues happy to take on this mantle of
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Speaker 7: if the establishment, and this is their way of expressing themselves.
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Speaker 7: And you've already answered my next question, which is when
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Speaker 7: these guys get caught on the old occasion we get lucky,
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Speaker 7: what do they get in punishment? It's exactly the same
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Speaker 7: with the climate protesters that we bang on about endlessly
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Speaker 7: holding up entire railroads and industries to ransom, and yet
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Speaker 7: when they're brought before a court, what do they get?
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Speaker 5: A slap on the wrist?
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Speaker 7: Not even our government has not taken a single opportunity.
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Speaker 5: When I say our government.
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Speaker 7: I mean none of them, state or federal, has taken
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Speaker 7: a single opportunity to actually hold up a scalp and
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Speaker 7: say this, what we just did to this guy who's
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Speaker 7: been found guilty of this crime. Is what will happen
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Speaker 7: to you? So, like you say, we have absolutely no deterrent.
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Speaker 7: And it's a little wonder that Victoria's got the highest
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Speaker 7: debt in the country. Forget about the pandemic last year.
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Speaker 7: Late last year they foked out thirty million dollars to
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Speaker 7: cover off on the protests at the weapons Expo.
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Speaker 5: Which we all saw turn very violent.
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Speaker 7: Several police had to be patched up, one hundred and
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Speaker 7: fifty protesters were apparently injured. I mean, that just turned
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Speaker 7: into armageddon. Then there's the four million to policing the
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Speaker 7: fifty two pro Palestinian parades whatever you want to call them,
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Speaker 7: rallies protests last year alone. I mean, this racks up
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Speaker 7: such an incredible bill on rate payers and on taxpayers.
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Speaker 5: And this is where I am.
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Speaker 7: Not a fan of forbidding these idiotic youths to post
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Speaker 7: their exploits on social media, because if only they do that,
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Speaker 7: the police would have them by now. It actually helps
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Speaker 7: our police force when these stupid youths see fit to
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Speaker 7: boast about it, and the next thing you know, we
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Speaker 7: have the coppers at their door saying, well, we know
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Speaker 7: who done it, now, don't we.
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Speaker 6: In many of these cases, people have been charged in
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Speaker 6: Sydney in the last few months. They've also been charged
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Speaker 6: with wearing masks and whatever when they go off and
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Speaker 6: do it, So they're not quite that stupid. They don't
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Speaker 6: have any historical literacy, but you know they've got the
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Speaker 6: smarts to put something over their face. But perhaps one
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Speaker 6: of the prime suspects, given Parliament isn't sitting this week,
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Speaker 6: should be Victorian Senator Lydia Thorpe. Now I'm not saying
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Speaker 6: she actually did it. Sorry Lydia, Sorry Lydia, it was
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Speaker 6: just a joke. But hey, we haven't done a loopy
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Speaker 6: Lydias story for a while, so do I have a
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Speaker 6: doozy for you. You might remember a few weeks ago
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Speaker 6: we were talking about a quote unquote anti racism symposium
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Speaker 6: at the Queensland University of Technology that was held only
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Speaker 6: twenty third of January, and the story previously was about
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Speaker 6: a speaker who had talked about the concept of Dutton's
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Speaker 6: jew which was you know, or Jews who don't stand
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Speaker 6: up for the left, et cetera, et cetera. There was
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Speaker 6: a big outcry about that. We carried on about that
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Speaker 6: at the time. But a little bit more has come
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Speaker 6: out about this supposed anti racism symposium and would you
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Speaker 6: believe it?
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Speaker 1: It's racism from Lydia.
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Speaker 6: Thought, I'll let her take it away where she says
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Speaker 6: we should literally take back the land.
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Speaker 8: This is an assertion of sovereignty, so we need to
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Speaker 8: start our own flags into our own land.
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Speaker 5: And the colony.
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Speaker 8: It's the only way we're going to do it. We
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Speaker 8: need to mobilize, we need to heal, we need to decolonize,
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Speaker 8: and we want self determination. We need to decide our
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Speaker 8: own destiny. We need to be economically independent, and we
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Speaker 8: need to take on colony.
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Speaker 1: But we can't do.
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Speaker 8: It how we are. We're just too separated and divided.
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Speaker 6: We're too separated and divided. But we need a separate
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Speaker 6: system under which to rule ourselves. I don't know, it
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Speaker 6: kind of sounds like segregation to me, but anyway, that's
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Speaker 6: what she's saying.
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Speaker 1: Put the flag in the ground.
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Speaker 6: We're going to take the land back, because that, of course,
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Speaker 6: is how you achieve something called reconciliation. Now, I always
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Speaker 6: thought reconciliation, by the fact that it's got reconcile at
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Speaker 6: the start of it meant that you do actually reconcile
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Speaker 6: your differences and then you move forward together. But of
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Speaker 6: course that's not what people like Lydia Thorpe wanted. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 6: while she's doing all of this, she's collecting her senatorial
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Speaker 6: salary more than two hundred thousand dollars a year, but
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Speaker 6: she hates.
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Speaker 8: The job, workplace that I have to go to every
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Speaker 8: Parliament sitting. I hate going there. I hate dealing with
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Speaker 8: the people that I'm going to deal with, but I
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Speaker 8: have to do it. I have to do it for
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Speaker 8: my people and for all of our ancestors that are
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Speaker 8: watching down on.
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Speaker 1: I have to do it. I have to take the
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Speaker 1: two hundred grand every year, even.
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Speaker 6: Though I hate dealing with the people who elected me.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she's the model local member, isn't she.
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Speaker 1: But I actually in some.
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Speaker 6: Ways quite like Lydia Thorpe because she just lets the
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Speaker 6: cat out the bag all the time. She doesn't, you know,
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Speaker 6: dance around anything and not tell us what she actually thinks.
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Speaker 6: She just comes out and says, yes, this is actually
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Speaker 6: the plan. The idea here is that we should be
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Speaker 6: entirely separate. There's no Australia. We should be entirely separate. Look,
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Speaker 6: if that's what you want, Lydia, sure I would be
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Speaker 6: quite happy to carve off a bit of land somewhere
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Speaker 6: and say bugger off.
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Speaker 1: I never want to hear from you again. You can
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Speaker 1: look after it.
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Speaker 6: You can organize the power, you can organize the water,
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Speaker 6: you can organize the medicine. You can organize the Internet
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Speaker 6: and the iPhones and all the other things that you're
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Speaker 6: accustomed to.
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Speaker 1: Here you go and do it yourself. I'm done with you.
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Speaker 3: I don't understand why you run an anti racism symposium
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Speaker 3: and invite Lydia Thorpe who is from the Black Sovereignty movement,
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Speaker 3: which sounds a little bit racist. And then she gets
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Speaker 3: up at this anti racism symposium and she sounds off
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Speaker 3: against quote white Karens. She talks about not just putting
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Speaker 3: the indigenous flag in the ground, but then charging white
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Speaker 3: people to actually use that space where they've planted the
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Speaker 3: indigenous flag.
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Speaker 6: She talks about the bloody country you looked around recently,
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Speaker 6: well already half the country is.
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Speaker 2: She talks about our land, our country. And here's what
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Speaker 2: I don't understand you've talked about.
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Speaker 3: You know, if you vandalize a Captain Cook statue, is
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Speaker 3: at a hate crime against Australia. If she's talking about
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Speaker 3: her stated goal as a parliamentarian is the overthrowing of
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Speaker 3: the Australian government.
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Speaker 2: Do we not have treason laws anymore?
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Speaker 3: Or have somebody on the public purse in our parliament
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Speaker 3: saying my objective is to overthrow the elected government of
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Speaker 3: the country. Lydia Thorpe is written off as a joke,
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Speaker 3: and I know we do that as well. But I
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Speaker 3: actually think she's dangerous because while most people don't take
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Speaker 3: her seriously, there are a small group of people that do.
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Speaker 3: But there's another problem. She serves a purpose. She's so
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Speaker 3: far out there, she's so extreme, she is so ridiculous
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Speaker 3: that she makes the real extremists sound moderate. The Islamists
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Speaker 3: do this as well, and this is what happens with Islam.
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Speaker 3: Yet these extremists, with their crazy ideas, who make it
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Speaker 3: so this is what Isa suddenly made Al Kaider seem
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Speaker 3: They're not bad guys, right, and now we deal with
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Speaker 3: I mean, El Cleider are sitting at climate summits.
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Speaker 2: Talking about, you know, reducing emissions. How did that happen?
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Speaker 3: Isis the extremists made the moderates look That made the
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Speaker 3: other extremists look moderate. Lydia Thorpe serves the same purpose
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Speaker 3: in terms of racial affairs in this country. She's so
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Speaker 3: far out there she makes others calling for reparations, calling
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Speaker 3: for truth telling, calling for treaty makes them look reasonable.
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Speaker 3: And so I think she's more than a joke. She's
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Speaker 3: dangerous and I cannot, for the life of me understand
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Speaker 3: why our senators have not been able to find a
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Speaker 3: reason to have her expelled from the senateor.
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Speaker 7: Well, it is very hard to boot a senator. There's
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Speaker 7: a lot of rules that regulation out. No, no, no,
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Speaker 7: but they've intentionally made it very hard. Because someone is
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Speaker 7: elected by the people by popular vote, then only the
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Speaker 7: people can demote that person. You can be kicked out
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Speaker 7: of a party, but to actually get them out of
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Speaker 7: Parliament once that many people have gone to the ballot
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Speaker 7: box and said yes, I think it's a great idea
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Speaker 7: that this senator remains one of our sixty seven people
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Speaker 7: in the Senate in that hallowed place.
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Speaker 5: I think she should be given that authority.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and so she has legitimate standing to be there,
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Speaker 7: and none of us can be like, well she should
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Speaker 7: be gone. No, no, the people voted for her, and
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Speaker 7: there she'll remain. I love what you said to you.
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Speaker 7: It's been a while since we've had a Lydia thought story.
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Speaker 7: I swear that's why she does this. If a week
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Speaker 7: or two goes by Lydia Thorpe can't stand it. She's like,
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Speaker 7: nobody's mentioned me. She's probably got media alerts and being like,
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Speaker 7: you know what, it's been way too quiet. It's time
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Speaker 7: that I put another fox.
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Speaker 5: In the henhouse.
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Speaker 7: The additional comments that she said stating her reason for
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Speaker 7: staying there.
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Speaker 5: You heard her.
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Speaker 7: She's such a martyr for the cause, but she's got
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Speaker 7: to do it for her people. She said, I'm going
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Speaker 7: to see out my term and I'm going to run
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Speaker 7: again in order to then hand it over to the younger.
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Speaker 5: People in my movement.
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Speaker 7: She reckons, and I quote that the black sovereign candidates
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Speaker 7: could win the bottom seat, bottom Senate seat everywhere and
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Speaker 7: can have the balance of power.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, lady, because you have so endeared people to your
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Speaker 5: cause through.
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Speaker 7: Your ridiculous antics, I'm sure that they would get up.
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Speaker 5: All over Australia.
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Speaker 7: Not I don't think so, but speaking of people who
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Speaker 7: we'd run not be in our Senate, and yet there
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Speaker 7: they are. Our next story is on senator payment. She
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Speaker 7: attended a event by the Benevolent Iranian Women Association, and
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Speaker 7: some footage has come to light regarding that. Have a
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Speaker 7: look at what she said. This footage came to light
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Speaker 7: just yesterday.
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Speaker 5: Here she was at this.
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Speaker 7: Symposium that's supposed to be talking about the women's rights
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Speaker 7: violations in Iran.
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Speaker 5: That's why this association was.
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Speaker 7: Started in nineteen ninety and yet she didn't seem to be.
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Speaker 5: Quite on board with their agenda.
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Speaker 9: Incredible place that Iran is allowing for women to participate
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Speaker 9: in the workforce, to ensure that they have a voice
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Speaker 9: and their voices are heard, they're involved in the democratic process.
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Speaker 9: Realities that we're not privy to living here and listening
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Speaker 9: to the propaganda.
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Speaker 5: That we receive from very single.
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Speaker 9: Sided organizations with a specific agenda.
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Speaker 7: She said, there's two sides to every coin. It's Western propaganda.
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Speaker 7: It's a stereotype that women are abused in Iran. To
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Speaker 7: Senator Payment, I would say that is a country that
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Speaker 7: still practices, not countrywide, but certainly does practice female genital mutilation.
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Speaker 7: And between twenty and seventeen and twenty and twenty two,
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Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty four thousand child bride weddings were
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Speaker 7: registered in Iran. And when I say child bride, I
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Speaker 7: mean under the age of fifteen. You think that is
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Speaker 7: not a massive human rights abuse taking part.
19:45
Speaker 5: Right under your nose, And you want to.
19:47
Speaker 7: Stand up at this symposium and say, wow, you know
19:50
Speaker 7: there's two sides to every story. Let's not stereotype here.
19:55
Speaker 7: A lot of this is just Western propaganda. No, those
19:58
Speaker 7: figures I gave you right out of Tehran's own account
20:03
Speaker 7: of how many of those marriages took place.
20:06
Speaker 5: Okay, so here.
20:08
Speaker 7: We're interested in the facts, not you trying to endear
20:11
Speaker 7: Westerners to Oh, maybe it's not so bad for Iranian
20:14
Speaker 7: women after all, Now, kudos to Paymen. It was probably
20:19
Speaker 7: after the criticism started pouring in that she backed up
20:23
Speaker 7: her comments with this one. She said, I haven't been
20:26
Speaker 7: to Iran. Oh thanks for clarifying. I don't know what
20:30
Speaker 7: the situation is like. And frankly, speaking as an Australian senator, I.
20:34
Speaker 5: Have a lot more pressing matters to be.
20:36
Speaker 7: Across and to represent my constituents here. Whether I agree
20:40
Speaker 7: with people or not, I'm very open to having a
20:43
Speaker 7: discussion and hearing their side. I would think that now
20:47
Speaker 7: I've heard both sides. I think that's helpful to any leader. Okay, well,
20:54
Speaker 7: maybe Senator Payman, you should just not speak to issues
20:58
Speaker 7: that you know absolutely nothing about. And of course it
21:02
Speaker 7: was very embarrassing for one New South Wales Minister for
21:05
Speaker 7: Women who also participated in this shindig, Jerdy.
21:10
Speaker 5: Harrison did a recorded.
21:13
Speaker 7: Address in which she talked about you know, the importance
21:16
Speaker 7: of being understanding, etc. And so on, But given what
21:21
Speaker 7: other panelists had to say at this gathering, she is
21:25
Speaker 7: now very much regretting her participation. She now says, I
21:29
Speaker 7: have heard the concerns raised and sincerely apologize for my
21:32
Speaker 7: participation in this event, for the message it's sent, which
21:36
Speaker 7: is incongruent with the view of myself and of the
21:39
Speaker 7: New South Wales government and the distress I know it
21:42
Speaker 7: has caused for many. Those of us who are privileged
21:45
Speaker 7: to hold public office have a responsibility to promote a
21:48
Speaker 7: quality and to create a better New South Wales which
21:51
Speaker 7: does not minimize or undermine the experience of others. I
21:56
Speaker 7: do not share the views express by the panelists at
22:00
Speaker 7: this event. Minister, next time, just check the lineup. When
22:05
Speaker 7: there's an immam whose workshop is entitled and I quote
22:10
Speaker 7: Islam leads the world in women's right, maybe maybe you
22:16
Speaker 7: don't want to be a participating.
22:21
Speaker 3: Clue how is how does she remain the women's minister
22:25
Speaker 3: in your South Wales?
22:26
Speaker 2: After that?
22:26
Speaker 3: She clearly misunderstood the entire thing. But that's a pretty
22:30
Speaker 3: big stuff up. As for Senator Payman. I mean she
22:34
Speaker 3: talks about the fact that, you know, Iran is really
22:36
Speaker 3: good because they let women work.
22:38
Speaker 2: I mean, how amazing is that?
22:40
Speaker 1: Round?
22:40
Speaker 2: All upor well done? Iatol Is, You're doing brilliantly.
22:44
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because she's come from Afghanistan, where women aren't
22:47
Speaker 3: allowed to speak in public, so by comparison, Iran is.
22:51
Speaker 2: This is a free ride, like the island where Wonder
22:53
Speaker 2: Woman grew up.
22:55
Speaker 3: In addition, she said that women are allowed to be
22:58
Speaker 3: involved in the democratic processes, just wondering what the democratic process.
23:05
Speaker 3: So clearly she's shilling for votes by CosIng up to
23:09
Speaker 3: the Ayatola, and obviously there.
23:11
Speaker 2: Are a few votes in doing that.
23:14
Speaker 3: The other interesting thing about payment is you heard her
23:16
Speaker 3: say there that you don't hear about the good things
23:20
Speaker 3: in Iran because of the Western media's propaganda. But do
23:23
Speaker 3: you know who she was speaking to when she recorded
23:25
Speaker 3: that comment. She was speaking to Press TV, which is
23:29
Speaker 3: a television network connected to the Iranian regime, banned in
23:33
Speaker 3: the UK because they were airing forced and coerced confessions
23:38
Speaker 3: of prisoners in Iran. So you get the irony, right,
23:41
Speaker 3: She's talking about propaganda in Western media to an Iranian
23:45
Speaker 3: state TV network that's been banned not in Australia curiously,
23:50
Speaker 3: but in the UK for promoting propaganda.
23:53
Speaker 1: It's just it is so bad, isn't it.
23:56
Speaker 6: We're talking about a country in Iran, And yes, they
23:59
Speaker 6: can participate in democracy insofar as they are allowed to
24:03
Speaker 6: vote and they are allowed to run, but they can't
24:06
Speaker 6: run for president. So your involvement can go to some degree,
24:09
Speaker 6: but you can't have the top job. You've still got
24:12
Speaker 6: to ask male family members for permission to get married.
24:16
Speaker 6: It's compulsory to wear a veil in public. Last year
24:21
Speaker 6: they were talking about introducing laws that would put people
24:24
Speaker 6: to death for protesting against that. It was a big backlash,
24:28
Speaker 6: part of the democratic process. It's all democratic and they
24:31
Speaker 6: ended up holding that up. But that's what they want
24:33
Speaker 6: to do over there. And I know it's the World
24:35
Speaker 6: Economic Forum, but anyway, they ranked them as one hundred
24:38
Speaker 6: and forty three out of one hundred and forty six
24:41
Speaker 6: countries in the world for women's rights. Georgetown University in
24:45
Speaker 6: the United States ranks them one hundred and forty out
24:48
Speaker 6: of one hundred and seventy seven countries for human rights.
24:52
Speaker 6: Like it seems pretty clear there's an international consensus that
24:56
Speaker 6: Iran is not a great place for human rights. Of
24:59
Speaker 6: course op under sharia law, the law of Islam, which
25:03
Speaker 6: apparently it's the world leader when it comes to oh, right,
25:07
Speaker 6: But I think we can all see that that's not
25:08
Speaker 6: the case.
25:09
Speaker 1: But it raises the question.
25:11
Speaker 6: I mean, it would seem if you have an Australian
25:14
Speaker 6: senator speaking in that manner at such an event and
25:18
Speaker 6: men talking to state television from Iran, that that is
25:23
Speaker 6: an Australian actor working as as foreign interference for another nation. Right,
25:28
Speaker 6: And this is a woman who may well be a
25:31
Speaker 6: dual citizen, and it is illegal to be a senator
25:35
Speaker 6: or a member of parliament if you're a jel citizen.
25:37
Speaker 6: She's from Afghanistan. She says that when she ran for
25:41
Speaker 6: the Senate for labor, and can you imagine they must
25:43
Speaker 6: be ruing the day they put her on the ballot.
25:46
Speaker 6: But when she ran for the Senate for Labor, she
25:49
Speaker 6: said that she wrote to Afghanistan and asked.
25:52
Speaker 1: For them to remove her as a citizen, and she
25:55
Speaker 1: never heard back.
25:56
Speaker 6: So she's just sort of hoping that that's what they did.
26:00
Speaker 6: Don't know that that's what they did. So we have
26:02
Speaker 6: a foreigner who is potentially still a citizen of a
26:06
Speaker 6: foreign country, potentially sitting illegally in our Senate and then
26:10
Speaker 6: running interference for foreign Islamic nations, and there's no problem
26:15
Speaker 6: with them.
26:17
Speaker 5: Revoked or not. Though this person's allegiance is not to
26:21
Speaker 5: our country.
26:23
Speaker 7: I mean that's not the same can be said for
26:26
Speaker 7: for Rookie.
26:26
Speaker 5: I think that's pretty obvious. Then we've got two.
26:29
Speaker 6: Years to all money to Pakistan because all this indeed.
26:33
Speaker 7: And when you've got the Australian Iranian Community Alliance coming
26:37
Speaker 7: out and condemning payment statement and saying, excuse me, the
26:43
Speaker 7: women's rights of violations in Iran are well documented, baby,
26:48
Speaker 7: these go back over decades. What the heck are you
26:51
Speaker 7: talking about? No wonder she did that one eighty about
26:55
Speaker 7: face saying, well, I guess I've never really been anyway.
26:58
Speaker 7: I'm an Australian city isn't not a citizen, but I'm
27:02
Speaker 7: an Australian senator, and.
27:03
Speaker 5: So I have pressing matters here. So never mind.
27:07
Speaker 2: There's a bit of a theme here, right.
27:08
Speaker 3: So you've got Payman who is clearly extolling the virtues
27:12
Speaker 3: of Iran. You've got Lydia Thorpe who's running for Black sovereignty.
27:16
Speaker 3: You've got Penny Wong, who's been praised by Hamas for
27:19
Speaker 3: Australia's voting patterns in the UN.
27:21
Speaker 2: You've got Anti Alberanezi.
27:23
Speaker 3: Who's being recommended by the Chinese Communist Party as a
27:25
Speaker 3: great example for other nations on how to balance the
27:28
Speaker 3: US Chinese relationship. Wouldn't it be great if there was
27:31
Speaker 3: a politician in the Australian Parliament representing I don't know Australian,
27:35
Speaker 3: they are Australian, incredible, but.
27:38
Speaker 7: Do you think we've dug this hole for ourselves when
27:40
Speaker 7: only a third of us have been born here? Like then,
27:44
Speaker 7: you've got politicians who are always going to be shilling
27:47
Speaker 7: for votes of not people who necessarily called dividely.
27:51
Speaker 5: A home as we would on this panel.
27:55
Speaker 7: They're going to be shilling for the votes of people
27:57
Speaker 7: whose allegiances do lie elsewhere, as I would if I
28:01
Speaker 7: moved to another country, Australia would always be my number
28:05
Speaker 7: one priority, my true home and the country that held
28:08
Speaker 7: my allegiance.
28:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Let's go to the United States.
28:11
Speaker 3: Imagine you're taking over a company that hadn't been doing
28:14
Speaker 3: real well. They've got a lot of workers.
28:17
Speaker 2: Perhaps too many. What do you reckon?
28:19
Speaker 3: Your first move would be, I reckon, I would probably
28:23
Speaker 3: invite all those on staff to report what they'd done
28:26
Speaker 3: in the last week, and you'd start to work out
28:28
Speaker 3: who is actually working and who's not.
28:30
Speaker 2: Well.
28:31
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is now responsible for the United States bureaucracy,
28:34
Speaker 3: and so he's done just that. He's got Elon Musk
28:38
Speaker 3: to send an email to federal employees simply asking can
28:41
Speaker 3: you report back five things you accomplished in the last week.
28:45
Speaker 3: It's a pretty simple, maybe a bit crude, but an
28:48
Speaker 3: effective way of working out who's actually doing something now.
28:52
Speaker 3: The plan was that those who didn't reply to the
28:56
Speaker 3: email were clearly giving effect to the fact that they're
29:00
Speaker 3: not doing anything. In fact, Donald Trump did a media
29:03
Speaker 3: interview today where he said, one of the things I
29:05
Speaker 3: was trying to find out was whether federal employees on
29:07
Speaker 3: the payroll actually existed or not, because they fear they're
29:11
Speaker 3: paying a whole lot of people who.
29:12
Speaker 2: Don't actually exist.
29:14
Speaker 3: So if you didn't respond to the email, it was
29:16
Speaker 3: pretty clear maybe you don't exist, or maybe you're just
29:18
Speaker 3: not doing anything. Another way to prove you're not really
29:20
Speaker 3: doing anything is just to go on CNN.
29:24
Speaker 2: Just tell us about this email and what it was
29:28
Speaker 2: like receiving it, and what you all have talked about
29:31
Speaker 2: after getting it.
29:33
Speaker 1: Sure, I got.
29:34
Speaker 10: This email Saturday afternoon, about three pm, and I felt
29:40
Speaker 10: absolutely infuriated getting this email with a demand within forty
29:46
Speaker 10: eight hours to provide a response and what I did
29:49
Speaker 10: within the last week or feace termination. This is clearly
29:54
Speaker 10: an attempt from Elon Musk to harass and bully and
29:58
Speaker 10: antimodyeral workforce, which is part of his broader plan to
30:03
Speaker 10: gut the federal workforce and privatize public sector services to
30:09
Speaker 10: ensure that corporations like his own can get more profit.
30:14
Speaker 3: And that in the time that young lady spent crying
30:17
Speaker 3: on CNN, she could have replied to Elon Musk's email
30:20
Speaker 3: and kept her job. Elon Musk tweeted the email request
30:24
Speaker 3: was utterly trivial, as the standard for passing the test
30:26
Speaker 3: was to type some words and press send. Yet so
30:30
Speaker 3: many failed even that inane test, urged on in some
30:33
Speaker 3: cases by their managers. Have you ever witnessed such incompetence
30:37
Speaker 3: and contempt for how your taxes are being spent? And
30:41
Speaker 3: then he added, for good measure, makes old Twitter look good.
30:45
Speaker 3: Didn't think that was possible. It's just incredible the outcry.
30:50
Speaker 3: If you did this in the private sector. In fact,
30:53
Speaker 3: not if you did this in the private sector, every
30:55
Speaker 3: company worth their salt make sure they are holding employees
30:59
Speaker 3: and staff members accountable and they're getting some sort of
31:02
Speaker 3: productivity report. But somehow people are on the taxpayer dime
31:06
Speaker 3: feel that they don't have to answer to anybody and
31:08
Speaker 3: get offended when somebody insists they should.
31:11
Speaker 6: Well, it's pretty standard in the private sector that you
31:13
Speaker 6: have KPIs that are baked into your contract, that you
31:17
Speaker 6: have to achieve certain goals and do certain things in
31:21
Speaker 6: order to maintain your employment. Why would it not be
31:24
Speaker 6: the same in the public sector. And it's not like
31:27
Speaker 6: he asked for war and peace about what's been going on.
31:30
Speaker 6: Just tell me five things you did in the last week,
31:33
Speaker 6: and they may well be I completed a report that
31:36
Speaker 6: I had been assigned to do. I fixed this problem,
31:39
Speaker 6: I fixed that problem. How hard could it be to
31:42
Speaker 6: come up with five things that you have in a week?
31:46
Speaker 1: And I just find it so.
31:48
Speaker 6: Strange that they're so outraged by it. As someone who's
31:51
Speaker 6: worked in journalism my whole career, I have from day
31:55
Speaker 6: dot always worked to daily or weekly deadlines. I have
31:59
Speaker 6: things I have to get done every day or every week.
32:03
Speaker 6: So I can tell you five things I did yesterday,
32:06
Speaker 6: five things I did last week. I can tell you
32:08
Speaker 6: everything I've written, all the stories that I've talked about
32:11
Speaker 6: on here, because I have to do those things every day.
32:13
Speaker 6: What are they doing in the public service, For heaven's sake,
32:16
Speaker 6: they can't come up with five things they ought to
32:19
Speaker 6: be gone?
32:19
Speaker 7: Well, this explains why seventy seven thousand federal employees have
32:23
Speaker 7: already taken the payout deal.
32:25
Speaker 5: They were like, we.
32:26
Speaker 7: Were literally, instead of gutting the place before we got
32:30
Speaker 7: the place, we will give you a handsome payout if
32:32
Speaker 7: you'll just leave. And seventy seven thousand federal employees said,
32:38
Speaker 7: you know what, I already know.
32:39
Speaker 5: I'm useless.
32:40
Speaker 7: I will be gutted, and therefore I'm going to gut
32:43
Speaker 7: myself and take the handsome paycheck on the way out
32:47
Speaker 7: the door.
32:47
Speaker 5: Those were the smart ones.
32:49
Speaker 7: The not smart ones are the ones winging on CNN
32:52
Speaker 7: about like, think of it, You've always probably had a
32:55
Speaker 7: pretty low opinion of federal employees. The same goes here
32:59
Speaker 7: in Australia, right, but watching them have a meltdown over
33:03
Speaker 7: the simplest request, which was basically justify your existence, like
33:08
Speaker 7: what have you done over the last week on the
33:10
Speaker 7: taxpayer dime? While the taxpayer has been paying you? What
33:14
Speaker 7: have you done? And of course Elon wouldn't have been
33:17
Speaker 7: able to go through the thousands of replies and fact
33:20
Speaker 7: checked whatever they said. You're could have been like changed
33:23
Speaker 7: the world. This is what I did. The idea, like
33:27
Speaker 7: he said in that tweet, was just to check that
33:29
Speaker 7: A they were checking their emails, therefore they exist, and
33:34
Speaker 7: B they could string a few words together justifying their existence.
33:38
Speaker 7: It was as simple as that, and they have abjectally failed.
33:42
Speaker 7: So now he will go more scorched earth than he
33:45
Speaker 7: probably would have otherwise gone.
33:47
Speaker 3: Well, he said, he will send a second email and
33:50
Speaker 3: if people fail to respond to the second email, then
33:52
Speaker 3: they will face automatic termination.
33:54
Speaker 1: Wow, what a strange concept I have to tell you. Now.
33:58
Speaker 1: You might have heard last week about.
33:59
Speaker 6: Some Chinese warships that were making their way down the
34:02
Speaker 6: east coast of Australia.
34:04
Speaker 1: Why would you be doing that, you might think to yourself.
34:07
Speaker 1: I don't know.
34:08
Speaker 6: I mean, I assume it's got something to do with
34:11
Speaker 6: intimidating Australia, and it wasn't good enough that they floated
34:15
Speaker 6: with the ships down the East coast. They then decided
34:17
Speaker 6: to fire a few guns and artillery around because you're
34:20
Speaker 6: going to really drive home the point that you're sending
34:23
Speaker 6: a message to those dastardly people down at Australia that
34:26
Speaker 6: we don't like you very much. We particularly don't like
34:29
Speaker 6: it when you come up to the South China Sea
34:30
Speaker 6: and fly over international waters and we fire fleas at
34:34
Speaker 6: your planes.
34:35
Speaker 1: No, no, no, We've got to send a message this
34:37
Speaker 1: is our.
34:38
Speaker 6: Space, which is obviously why those three ships ended up
34:41
Speaker 6: firing around the place, except that we didn't know that
34:44
Speaker 6: they were going to fire, and in fact we found
34:47
Speaker 6: out last night in a Senate committee. The only reason
34:51
Speaker 6: we do know they were doing this was because a
34:54
Speaker 6: Virgin pilot was flying overhead. Here's Peter Curran from Air
34:58
Speaker 6: Services Australia.
35:01
Speaker 4: The frequency that the Virgin pilot monitored the Chinese versailon
35:07
Speaker 4: is a frequency that's an International Guard frequency. Air Traffic
35:11
Speaker 4: control does not monitor that frequency, but pilots do, so
35:14
Speaker 4: we can't hear what was said. So the pilot of
35:16
Speaker 4: the Virgin aircraft heard what was said from the Chinese
35:19
Speaker 4: vessel relay that back to air traffic control. Air traffic
35:23
Speaker 4: Control then passed that through our system and started giving
35:25
Speaker 4: Hasard allerding to all aircraft on the frequency.
35:29
Speaker 6: So that's how we found out that one of our
35:31
Speaker 6: biggest trading partners was firing bullets off our border.
35:35
Speaker 1: Hmm.
35:36
Speaker 6: They sound like great friends, don't they. Forty nine flights
35:40
Speaker 6: had to be diverted because they were doing these artillery exercises.
35:45
Speaker 6: I mean, for Hiven's sake. Elbow runs off and Miles
35:48
Speaker 6: runs off to China.
35:49
Speaker 1: And says, we're not very happy with this.
35:51
Speaker 6: China then comes back and says, well, we're not very
35:54
Speaker 6: happy that you're not very happy.
35:55
Speaker 1: With us doing it. We were doing it in international waters.
35:58
Speaker 6: That's okay, Okay, sure they were doing it in international waters.
36:02
Speaker 6: There's no law against floating your boat down that way.
36:06
Speaker 6: But a couple of weeks ago, when we flew a
36:08
Speaker 6: plane in international barters, we had a flare fired at us.
36:12
Speaker 6: If we tried this out near China, our boats would
36:16
Speaker 6: be blown up, and the best we can do is
36:19
Speaker 6: to go. I'm sorry, mister gi I don't think that's
36:23
Speaker 6: a very good thing to do.
36:25
Speaker 1: I mean, we are so.
36:27
Speaker 3: Weak that the other thing with international waters is we
36:29
Speaker 3: have to fly over those international waters to visit our
36:32
Speaker 3: cousins in New Zealand. And of those fourty nine flights
36:35
Speaker 3: that were diverted, some of them were mid air when
36:38
Speaker 3: they had to be diverted with passengers on board. A
36:41
Speaker 3: couple of things. Firstly, this is a lot worse than
36:43
Speaker 3: we were led to believe. We were originally told that
36:46
Speaker 3: the Chinese were simply a little late in advising. Normally
36:50
Speaker 3: it's twelve to twenty four hours, but they didn't give
36:52
Speaker 3: the normal standard notice. Now we find out through Senate estimates,
36:57
Speaker 3: they didn't give.
36:58
Speaker 2: Notice at all.
37:00
Speaker 3: Virgin Pilot found out he notified air services and they
37:04
Speaker 3: notified defense operations.
37:07
Speaker 2: Second, we were told when.
37:09
Speaker 3: These vessels were first observed going down the east coast
37:12
Speaker 3: of Australia that they were being watched. Richard Miles told us,
37:16
Speaker 3: We've got all assets watching surveilling, They're closely being monitored,
37:20
Speaker 3: and yet they're firing live rounds and somehow it took a.
37:23
Speaker 2: Virgin pilot to figure it out.
37:26
Speaker 3: I also hear Virgin pilts are looking out for illegal
37:28
Speaker 3: asylum boats as well.
37:30
Speaker 1: I'm sure.
37:30
Speaker 3: We thank God for Virgin Aircraft keeping Australia's saviors and
37:35
Speaker 3: guarding our.
37:35
Speaker 5: Nat WHO border force. We have commercial.
37:39
Speaker 7: Handliners those pilots, thanks.
37:42
Speaker 2: Guys jet Star Flight.
37:44
Speaker 3: Otherwise we would have found out about the live firing
37:46
Speaker 3: about a week later.
37:49
Speaker 7: That guy can slap this on his resume and be like, also.
37:53
Speaker 2: We've got to go to a break.
37:55
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
37:57
Speaker 3: including Labour's plan to send criminals non citizens to NARU
38:02
Speaker 3: is all up in smoke after another legal problem.
38:05
Speaker 2: That and a bit more coming up in just a moment. Okay,
38:10
Speaker 2: welcome back.
38:11
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers.
38:14
Speaker 2: Liz, you've got the Australia I do.
38:16
Speaker 7: Indeed, the splash reads well, not the main splash, but
38:20
Speaker 7: the most interesting one.
38:21
Speaker 5: We thought.
38:22
Speaker 7: Latooth case costs ABC one point one million dollars and counting.
38:28
Speaker 5: You will remember this case.
38:30
Speaker 7: The ABC has splashed one point one million dollars in
38:33
Speaker 7: counting of taxpayer money on external legal fees in its
38:36
Speaker 7: controversial defense of the unlawful termination case bought by Philin
38:41
Speaker 7: radio presenter Antoinette latoof that figure could well nudge two
38:45
Speaker 7: million by the time the matter concludes, given that it
38:48
Speaker 7: excludes the costs of the ABC's own sizeable in house
38:54
Speaker 7: legal team.
38:55
Speaker 5: You will remember.
38:55
Speaker 7: Latoof was sacked in December twenty twenty three. She was
38:59
Speaker 7: given a five day hosting gig on ABC Sydney Morning Radio,
39:04
Speaker 7: sacked three days into said gig because of the stuff
39:08
Speaker 7: that she was sharing on her social media, which was
39:11
Speaker 7: very much pro Palestinian but in a distasteful way.
39:15
Speaker 5: Markedly so. The ABC did do.
39:18
Speaker 7: The right thing saying hey, you've actually breached the conditions
39:22
Speaker 7: of your contract.
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Speaker 5: Goodbye.
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Speaker 7: But it does make me think she must have a
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Speaker 7: pretty strong case in order for it to be costing
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Speaker 7: them this much money and several times refusing to settle
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Speaker 7: out of court, as the ABC goes on to say,
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Speaker 7: in estimates, we've tried to settle this several times and
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Speaker 7: that's why the cost is blowing out to be this
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Speaker 7: eye watering potentially two mil by the time they're done.
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Speaker 3: When you consider it was a five day contract, it
39:49
Speaker 3: was just five days of fill in work. Now one
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Speaker 3: of the ABC needs what is it, one point one
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Speaker 3: billion dollars of taxpayer money every year and they're still
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Speaker 3: crying poor when you've got this sort of ineptitude where
39:59
Speaker 3: they can't even sack somebody without a court case that
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Speaker 3: involves this kind of money for defense.
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Speaker 2: I mean, God help us.
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Speaker 6: You know. I have to say, though, I hate it
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Speaker 6: because it's public money that is being spent on this.
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Speaker 6: But part of me thinks, what were you thinking in
40:16
Speaker 6: the first place when you hired her? I meant as
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Speaker 6: though she just started posting this stuff on social media
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Speaker 6: in the last five minutes. I think the ABC cored
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Speaker 6: term degrees given there just desserts here.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, this could turn out to be Latouf's biggest payday
40:31
Speaker 7: of her life. To the second article, two more former
40:35
Speaker 7: detainees challenge NHRU deportation. Labour's plan to resettle the three
40:41
Speaker 7: n z YQ detainees in Naru has been derailed after
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Speaker 7: a murderer and a violent offender joined an Iraqi kidnaper.
40:49
Speaker 7: Oh what a gang in launching court challengers to fight
40:53
Speaker 7: their deportation and a major blow to a deal. Home
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Speaker 7: Affairs and Immigration Minister Tony Burt struck with the Pacific
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Speaker 7: nation to take three violent criminals under a pained arrangement.
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Speaker 7: Two of the men have taken action in the Federal Court,
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Speaker 7: stalling their removal, which was scheduled for Monday. This reminds
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Speaker 7: me of those ridiculous cases that we talk about in
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Speaker 7: the UK where some guy says, look, I know I'm
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Speaker 7: a criminal, but my kid doesn't like chicken nuggets in
41:21
Speaker 7: the country that you want to send us back to.
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Speaker 5: I mean, if you.
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Speaker 7: Are a murderer, if you are a violent offender, if
41:28
Speaker 7: you are a kidnapper, why do you even have the
41:32
Speaker 7: right and certainly not Australian citizens, why do you even
41:36
Speaker 7: have the right to appeal and tie up our court
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Speaker 7: system with your nonsense?
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Speaker 3: Are we really surprised though, that Labour's latest effort to
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Speaker 3: fix this fiasco.
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Speaker 2: Is back in court all over again.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, it would be easier to get your two hundred
41:49
Speaker 3: and seventy five dollars electricity power reduction than to get
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Speaker 3: deported from this country.
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Speaker 1: No, they should have two options.
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Speaker 6: You can go back to the country you came from,
41:57
Speaker 6: or you can go to Nauru and if you don't like,
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Speaker 6: jump in the water and swim away yourself.
42:02
Speaker 7: Thirdly, on the front of the oars, those greedy unis
42:06
Speaker 7: want more money. Cash strapped universities will urge governments to
42:10
Speaker 7: siphon spending from roads to research, claiming they need billions
42:15
Speaker 7: of dollars in bonus taxpayer funding for.
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Speaker 5: Teaching and research.
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Speaker 7: Like you're not enough of a drain on the taxpayer
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Speaker 7: person already, Like the majority of what you do isn't
42:27
Speaker 7: just brainwashing the next generation into goodness knows how many
42:31
Speaker 7: leftist agendas.
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Speaker 5: One of my biggest.
42:34
Speaker 7: Beef with these guys is they use up so much
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Speaker 7: taxpayer money and then stuff the Aussie students. They want
42:41
Speaker 7: all the international students because they pay up front and
42:45
Speaker 7: they pay a lot more money to study here, So
42:48
Speaker 7: we the taxpayer fit the bill for these unis and
42:51
Speaker 7: then they throw our people under the bus.
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Speaker 3: Their argument is if we can provide a million students
42:56
Speaker 3: with the tertiary education by twenty fifty, how much better
42:59
Speaker 3: the country will be. And wouldn't people prefer that to
43:02
Speaker 3: quote unquote a shorter commute. I'd prefer the shorter commute,
43:06
Speaker 3: especially after a young person told me its orientation week
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Speaker 3: this week back at University Macquarie University today, a lecturer
43:14
Speaker 3: gets up, this is the opening statement in a biology class.
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Speaker 3: If you refer to me by female pronouns, I will
43:21
Speaker 3: not answer to you. You refer to me only by
43:23
Speaker 3: my name, no pronouns. Otherwise I will act as if
43:26
Speaker 3: I did not hear you. Oh, universities, reckon, we would
43:30
Speaker 3: prefer that to potholes.
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Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
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Speaker 6: Oh, for goodness sake, that is the person who should
43:37
Speaker 6: be filling in the potholes. They should not be working
43:39
Speaker 6: in a university because so they say how great the
43:41
Speaker 6: country will be. They say that every household will be
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Speaker 6: twenty grand better off if we don't fill in the potholes,
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Speaker 6: and our economy will grow by two hundred and forty
43:52
Speaker 6: billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: Incredible, at what cost? You won't won't have any roads
43:57
Speaker 1: to drive on. But it's okay.
43:59
Speaker 6: Because we will have grown the economy significantly by getting
44:02
Speaker 6: people to do degrees that they then can't get jobs for.
44:06
Speaker 1: You know what does.
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Speaker 6: Grow though, if you have a larger population, the demand
44:10
Speaker 6: for tradees because someone's going to build the houses. Then
44:13
Speaker 6: someone's got to service the toilets in those houses and
44:16
Speaker 6: the power lines that go to those houses.
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Speaker 1: Just saying I think that's where we should be spending
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Speaker 1: our money. Let's look at the front of the.
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Speaker 6: Mercury tomorrow down in Tazzi, where it says one hundred
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Speaker 6: and eighty eight million dollars worth of homework. Speaking of
44:29
Speaker 6: government spending, the state government wants parents, teachers, and especially
44:32
Speaker 6: students to help and decide how to be spend It's
44:35
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty eight million dollar school building blitz.
44:38
Speaker 6: The money a twenty twenty four election promise has been
44:40
Speaker 6: allocated to fifteen schools around the state. So let me
44:45
Speaker 6: get this straight. They've got the money, they've got the schools.
44:48
Speaker 6: They've given the money to the schools without any prior
44:52
Speaker 6: planning about how the money is supposed to be spent
44:55
Speaker 6: or for what it is meant to be spent. I
44:58
Speaker 6: can understand if that they said, Okay, here's a list
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Speaker 6: of schools that need X, y Z. We're going to
45:04
Speaker 6: fund the new classrooms. But this is literally just have
45:08
Speaker 6: some money. Now, what do you want to do with it?
45:10
Speaker 6: Tell me we're you going to do with it? What
45:11
Speaker 6: a deal?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely ridiculous. I mean to me, this is unheard of.
45:16
Speaker 7: Everyone says these are our needs, this is how much
45:19
Speaker 7: it costs, and then government.
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Speaker 5: Goes or a grant.
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Speaker 7: You know, you're applying for a grant, and so you
45:25
Speaker 7: have to fill it in and be like I am
45:27
Speaker 7: justifying why you should give me this money government, Thank
45:29
Speaker 7: you very much. No, these guys have just been given
45:32
Speaker 7: a check for one hundred and eighty eight million dollars
45:36
Speaker 7: and of course they're going to spend every penny whether they.
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Speaker 5: Need it or not.
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Speaker 7: And the fact that they're majoring mac on asking the
45:43
Speaker 7: students that's the fun, well grace they would like to
45:47
Speaker 7: see in the school You.
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Speaker 2: Would see a big touchdown.
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Speaker 3: That's the only thing is what a big of touch
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Speaker 3: off imagining. I'm saying, we've got millions of dollars, let's
45:55
Speaker 3: ask the primary school.
45:56
Speaker 2: Kids what they would like. Although I must say it's
45:58
Speaker 2: better than what Kevin Rudd.
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Speaker 3: Did all those years ago, where he gave millions and
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Speaker 3: millions of dollars, but you had to have a school hall,
46:05
Speaker 3: whether you already had one or not. So all these
46:08
Speaker 3: schools put in new libraries, new halls that they didn't need.
46:12
Speaker 3: But since the money was free, you might as well
46:14
Speaker 3: use it. We're going to go to a break when
46:16
Speaker 3: we come back. I'm pretty convinced that Anthony Albanesi's media
46:20
Speaker 3: advisors are trying to get Peter Dutton elected.
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Speaker 2: We'll show you why in this the moment.
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Speaker 3: I am absolutely convinced that Anthony Elbenese's media advisors want
46:31
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton to be elected.
46:33
Speaker 2: Here's the proof.
46:34
Speaker 3: Every year there's an annual charity cricket game played at
46:37
Speaker 3: Kirabilly House. The Prime Minister hosts it, but you don't
46:41
Speaker 3: have to let him participate. Have a look at Anthony Albanesi.
46:44
Speaker 3: Can't govern, can't bat.
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Speaker 1: Look at the determination.
46:52
Speaker 3: Space swings like a Rusty Gate and that's an insult
46:59
Speaker 3: to Rusty Gate.
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Speaker 2: He's not even holding the bat properly.
47:02
Speaker 1: Some think he's ever held a cricket bat in his life.
47:05
Speaker 2: If you think that's bad, it gets worse.
47:08
Speaker 3: Look who is invited for elbow to hang out with
47:11
Speaker 3: at the charity cricket game. None other than break dancing
47:14
Speaker 3: sensation ray Gun, the only person in the country less
47:18
Speaker 3: popular than Anthony Elbanzi. I would say Anthony Albanesi governs
47:22
Speaker 3: like Raygun dancers.
47:23
Speaker 7: Indeed, and much like Camala Wood. We've got to leave
47:27
Speaker 7: you with this latest word salad. The woman herself was
47:30
Speaker 7: on the ground to check out the La fires.
47:33
Speaker 5: She was asked her thoughts on said fires and dwell.
47:36
Speaker 7: Her response is even worse than you're expecting this.
47:41
Speaker 5: Through your mind when you see this, you're here, You're
47:43
Speaker 5: now seeing it up close.
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Speaker 11: It's not only seeing it, Alex. You can smell it.
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Speaker 11: You can feel it right, So it's seeing it with
47:52
Speaker 11: our eyes and many people have seen it if you
47:55
Speaker 11: all are covering it. But to literally be on the
47:57
Speaker 11: ground here, you can smell the smoke that was here.
48:04
Speaker 11: You can feel the toxicity, frankly, of the environment. You
48:11
Speaker 11: can feel the energy of all of the folks who
48:14
Speaker 11: are still here on the ground.
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Speaker 7: She's just trying so hard to sound profound the smell
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Speaker 7: of it, the feel of it that you don't even
48:25
Speaker 7: everyone can see it with their eyes, but I'm here
48:28
Speaker 7: smelling it and feeling I.
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Speaker 1: Can smell it.
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Speaker 6: Who would have thought that where there's been a fire
48:33
Speaker 6: you could smell smoke.
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Speaker 1: I mean, anyone who was.
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Speaker 6: Living on the East Coast of Australia through like twenty
48:39
Speaker 6: nineteen twenty, no's that fires were at a long way away.
48:43
Speaker 6: Sydney was covered in a smoke pace for mounts and
48:45
Speaker 6: months and months. I'm connected to it because I can
48:50
Speaker 6: smell the fire. I mean, I know that she's newly unemployed,
48:53
Speaker 6: and maybe she's feeling a little bit depressed and down
48:56
Speaker 6: in the dumps about the situation she is now in
48:59
Speaker 6: in light but you'd think maybe she would fill in
49:02
Speaker 6: that time by I don't know, getting some lessons in
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Speaker 6: how to actually speak properly, or after all these years
49:08
Speaker 6: in politics, being able to address an audience about what's
49:12
Speaker 6: going on.
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Speaker 1: No, she can smell smoke.
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Speaker 2: You can feel the toxicity.
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Speaker 3: That's why she wasn't elected because the Democratic Convention voters
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Speaker 3: could feel the toxicity.
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Speaker 2: That's it from us.
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Speaker 3: Enjoy your evening stick around. Coming up is the readA
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Speaker 3: Pennety Show.
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Speaker 2: Good Night