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Countdown to Love Island USA Finale: 7 real life relationship lessons! · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks, it is Monday, July fourteenth, and
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  Speaker 1: it does not matter who you were rooting for in
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  Speaker 1: the Love Island USA finale. It doesn't matter if Pepe
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  Speaker 1: and Irish were your favorite. It doesn't matter if you
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  Speaker 1: want a christ and who do to work out, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter if Brian and Amayah were your two that you loved,
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  Speaker 1: or if it was Nick and Orlandria. We don't care
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  Speaker 1: about that stuff. What we care about is that those
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  Speaker 1: Islanders continued continued last night, doing a public service for
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  Speaker 1: all of us who are in or hope to be
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  Speaker 1: in relationships and robes. They saved their best for last
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  Speaker 1: because the season finale was chock full of relationship lessons,
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  Speaker 1: chief among them, don't choose sleep over sex and Prince
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  Speaker 1: Charming is total bullshit. And with that, welcome to this
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  Speaker 1: Love Island USA edition of Amy TJ, where we go
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  Speaker 1: beyond those hot bods, the kissing games, and the hideaway
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  Speaker 1: suites to identify the real relationship issue sprinkled throughout the
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  Speaker 1: hit show. Yes, we watch it for some of the lessons,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of people talking about just the reaction
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  Speaker 1: to what happened last night, yours is I thought.
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  Speaker 2: That America got it right. I think that they seemed
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  Speaker 2: to be the most hopeful couple of them all in
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  Speaker 2: terms of their dedication to one another, what they want
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  Speaker 2: after they leave the villa. So I thought that it
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  Speaker 2: was perfect. I really liked who America chose. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: it was Amaya and Brian. What I didn't love was
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  Speaker 2: all of the slow moo kissing and dancing. I could
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  Speaker 2: have done with few, much fewer moments of that that.
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  Speaker 2: I do like the music. I do get swept up
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  Speaker 2: in it, I'll admit, but the slow mo stuff was
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  Speaker 2: really They lost me on.
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  Speaker 1: That, and the music's gotten better over the each they
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  Speaker 1: had hit music. That's how I hit well. I mean
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  Speaker 1: even the yeah that's like wow, it amazing show. So
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  Speaker 1: they have can afford the rights to some songs apparently now,
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  Speaker 1: But no, that was cool with Yeah. My surprise was
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  Speaker 1: Iris and Pepe being the fourth favorite. I think that
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  Speaker 1: threw me. And you were at the time I was
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  Speaker 1: in the front with the girls. We thought we were
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  Speaker 1: going to wake you up. We all just screamed, well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you didn't wake me up because I was
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  Speaker 2: I think at that point in deep or ram sleep.
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  Speaker 2: But this morning when I went back and watched what
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  Speaker 2: I missed. I actually it makes sense because they were
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  Speaker 2: They weren't controversial, They didn't have anything that made them
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  Speaker 2: stood out or made somebody really want to vote for
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  Speaker 2: them one way or the other. Because they just were pleasant. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I get that.
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  Speaker 1: Fine, and we almost think they actually don't need our help.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna be okay.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: There's some degree it felt like that. So that was
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  Speaker 1: all fun and it's in the books. Congrats to Peacock
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  Speaker 1: for what they pulled off. This is a cultural phenomenon
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  Speaker 1: that everybody is talking about for good reasons, bad reasons,
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  Speaker 1: and just for the fact that it's a hit show.
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  Speaker 1: But it's this thing is going to continue. And yet
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  Speaker 1: really you find one of these, it's just impressive to
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  Speaker 1: see how this thing is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I told you, I woke up this morning impressed that
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  Speaker 2: The New York Times is covering Love Island. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's how much of a juggernaut it is. You know,
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  Speaker 2: You've got major media outlets that typically save most of
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  Speaker 2: their space for the conflict with Iran or Russia and Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: and here we are The New York Times talking about
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  Speaker 2: Love Island.
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  Speaker 1: They still hit Russia and Ukraine. But but yes, that
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  Speaker 1: just that lets you know, and this is a big deal,
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  Speaker 1: and look, we watch it for entertainment purposes. Is how
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  Speaker 1: it initially started when you got me into it, But
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  Speaker 1: then I just kind of fell in love with these
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  Speaker 1: relationship moments that took place, like real relationship moments and
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  Speaker 1: fights and how people get over it. And we are
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  Speaker 1: able to identify things that we have gone through and
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  Speaker 1: other people are so in this last one, whoo they
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  Speaker 1: went at it. So, folks, all of these you need
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  Speaker 1: to ask yourself. These are the questions and lessons the
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  Speaker 1: Islanders left us with from the season finale. So what
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  Speaker 1: if you applied all these to your own relationship? One lesson?
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  Speaker 1: Think about this? Ask yourself? Have you prioritized sleep over
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  Speaker 1: sex with your partner? Two? What's the right time and
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  Speaker 1: place for breakup? Three? Can you truly just be friends
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  Speaker 1: after dating someone? Four? Giving your partner a literal countdown
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  Speaker 1: to do what you want? It's probably not a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Five ask yourself this, do you have kind words to
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  Speaker 1: say about your ex at the moment you broke up?
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  Speaker 1: And if not, what does that say? Point six? Half
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  Speaker 1: of the couples in the finale well, they were just
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  Speaker 1: friends before they got together. We've been trying to tell y'all.
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  Speaker 1: And then point seven is one that Roebok wants to
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  Speaker 1: make because she is going to burst your prince charming bubble.
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  Speaker 1: Am I saying that the right way? Yes, okay, correct,
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  Speaker 1: that is correct, And we say the best one for last.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start with the one off the top rope.
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  Speaker 1: This was a big deal and conflict started and we're like, oh, hell,
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  Speaker 1: we thought there's just gonna be a pleasant episode, but
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  Speaker 1: Houdah and Chris got into a fight over something that
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  Speaker 1: happened in bed.
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  Speaker 2: You know. And it's interesting because we were rooting for them.
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  Speaker 2: They had seemingly gotten over their relationship issues, their families
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  Speaker 2: brought them closer together. And then you know what, I
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  Speaker 2: think it was less about sleepover sex and more about
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  Speaker 2: someone Hudah imposing what she wanted over what the other
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  Speaker 2: person wanted, prioritizing her needs over her partners. Oh that
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  Speaker 2: was the issue.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's talp want to take you on that one.
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  Speaker 1: It just happened to happen in bed, Yeah, and it
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  Speaker 1: just happened to be over sleep and sex. But this
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  Speaker 1: was an issue for her that wasn't necessarily.
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  Speaker 2: About sex, correct. She wanted what she wanted when she
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  Speaker 2: wanted it, and she didn't take her partners needs and
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  Speaker 2: desires into consideration. And look, we've all been guilty of that,
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  Speaker 2: but it was very obvious that that's what Huda was doing.
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  Speaker 2: She wanted to feel loved, she wanted she maybe she
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  Speaker 2: was feeling needy, maybe she was feeling insecure, and he
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  Speaker 2: really wanted to sleep, like genuinely says, this is an
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  Speaker 2: important part of my life, and so he just didn't
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  Speaker 2: respond to her. Maybe that wasn't the best way to
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  Speaker 2: handle it when she was trying to get his attention,
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  Speaker 2: when she wanted to cuddle, when she wanted some physical connection. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he could have said, bebe, I appreciate, I love you,
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  Speaker 2: and just please know I love you, but I am
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  Speaker 2: so tired and I need to sleep right now. But
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  Speaker 2: instead he ignored her because he was irritated, which then
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  Speaker 2: made her become more irritating.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so how do we handle everybody that's watching that moment?
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  Speaker 1: So I took it one sleep over second, let's just
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  Speaker 1: talk about that for a second, because how many times
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  Speaker 1: couples do with that. Yes, somebody goes to bed early.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody's exhausted, had a longer day, the other one sitting
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  Speaker 1: there horny as hell. What is the balance? And you
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  Speaker 1: said she was prioritizing her needs over his. Is there
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  Speaker 1: any room for him to not prioritize his needs sleep
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  Speaker 1: over what hers might have been a tention affection intimacy.
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  Speaker 2: I think there could have been a compromise. I think
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  Speaker 2: he could have said to her, Hey, babe, I love you.
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  Speaker 2: Please feel free to snuggle up next to me, but
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  Speaker 2: I got to sleep. And then she just doesn't feel rejected. See,
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  Speaker 2: Chris has felt rejected so many times, and Hudah has
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  Speaker 2: felt rejected, and so I think that's what happened. In
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  Speaker 2: a way. Maybe it was another passive aggressive Maybe she
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  Speaker 2: annoyed him and he was like, yeah, you've completely dismissed
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  Speaker 2: me so many times. I'm gonna do the same thing
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  Speaker 2: right back to you, because ignoring someone is never a
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  Speaker 2: good thing. But then she behaved even worse, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what ended up happening, where she gave him an ultimatum.
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  Speaker 2: She did a countdown like a mom to a child
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  Speaker 2: that ain't ever gonna go over. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think about it this way when we put
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  Speaker 1: this as a topic. But like both of them did
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  Speaker 1: almost everything wrong, they did right, and they didn't prioritize,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't think about the other. They weren't considered. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't kind to their partner in that moment. Look, we
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  Speaker 1: all have bad moments. We just happened to see theirs
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  Speaker 1: play out. And it is a lesson to us all. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you never whatever. You don't put your adult partner on
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  Speaker 1: a countdown anything. If you don't call me back in
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  Speaker 1: five minutes, if you don't whatever the countdown is, you
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  Speaker 1: don't do that. You just do not. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how that.
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  Speaker 2: Is never ends well, works an ultimatum, a countdown, It's
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  Speaker 2: that is a huge relationship. No, no it. If you
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  Speaker 2: have to do that, you got other issues and then
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  Speaker 2: you doing that makes it way worse.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So they christ and who would have been teaching
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  Speaker 1: us a lot of lessons the past three episodes of
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  Speaker 1: those last three episodes, and this was yet another one
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  Speaker 1: that they taught. Now this led to them eventually Robes
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  Speaker 1: breaking up. So and this leads us to the second
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  Speaker 1: lesson we were talking about here. But they they break
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  Speaker 1: up in the finale when everybody's supposed to be getting
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  Speaker 1: together and thinking about a future. So this is where
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  Speaker 1: we end up. But they do it in the most
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  Speaker 1: It was a beautiful set up, all the dates. I
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  Speaker 1: think this and maybe pepping an iris on the sailboat, yes,
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  Speaker 1: that was cool. But this was a beautiful setting. They
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  Speaker 1: had a beautiful meal. A singer came out that was awkward, hilarious,
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. But here is my question day, what is
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  Speaker 1: the right time place? Is there a proper way to
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  Speaker 1: break up? Meaning? Is text always a bad idea? Over
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  Speaker 1: the phone always a bad idea? Should it always be
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  Speaker 1: done face to face? And if so, is it ever
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  Speaker 1: okay to do it face to face in public?
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  Speaker 2: Ooh okay, so text absolutely not never?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, phone call?
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  Speaker 2: I guess maybe if you're a long distance you might
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  Speaker 2: not have another option, but you're not preferable.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to say we're in town. We're all in town.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So no, no to that. Yes, it has to happen.
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  Speaker 2: You have to give the other person enough respect to
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  Speaker 2: at least do it in person. I believe it's hard.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'll hit to the next part. They're doing it.
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  Speaker 1: What if you're sitting in a restaurant you're sitting. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't in a crowded restaurant, But what do you do there?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? Should it always be a completely private thing?
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  Speaker 1: Is it ever okay to be out at a bar,
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  Speaker 1: at a dinner and in the relationship after the appetizers
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  Speaker 1: kind of a thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I have had a situation where someone started to
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  Speaker 2: do that with me in a public place, and I
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  Speaker 2: was so resentful of it because now you can't actually
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  Speaker 2: feel what you want to feel. You're you're on display
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  Speaker 2: in a sense, and you're put into a place of
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  Speaker 2: pressure where you don't get to have the reaction that
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  Speaker 2: you might want to have.
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  Speaker 1: So that might have been the motivation in doing it
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  Speaker 1: in public.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, And so it feels manipulative and it doesn't feel
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  Speaker 2: good at all. So I don't think that that's ever
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  Speaker 2: a good idea. I think it's got to I think
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  Speaker 2: it should be a private moment where each person gets
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  Speaker 2: to say how they feel without people watching them and
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  Speaker 2: looking at them. Obviously, they were on national television, so
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  Speaker 2: they had an audience regardless of where they were, if
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  Speaker 2: they were in the hideaway or not. Maybe that would
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  Speaker 2: have been the only way they could have done it
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  Speaker 2: in private. But no, I don't if anyone out there
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  Speaker 2: listening has ever been broken up with in public or
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  Speaker 2: decided like you know how that feels. It feels. It
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  Speaker 2: just feels terrible. It adds, it adds more suffering to
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  Speaker 2: the already uncomfortable, difficult situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I excuse me, there, Yeah, this one, and this
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  Speaker 1: got awkward when this might have been the funniest moment.
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  Speaker 1: But I give them credit. It was a good edit.
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  Speaker 1: The singer comes out and it appeared that she was playing,
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  Speaker 1: and she had a time, she had a cue if
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  Speaker 1: you will, that a certain time she was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: come out and sing a romantic song. They were in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of a fight, in the middle of breaking up,
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  Speaker 1: and she's singing some I think it was a beautiful zone.
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  Speaker 1: But they cut some other version or some of the
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  Speaker 1: song in which the lyrics then matched the moment where
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't going great. I thought it was a good edit,
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  Speaker 1: but it was an awkward moment. But it made me
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  Speaker 1: think about the idea of doing it in a public place,
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  Speaker 1: To do it in a place where you expect that
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  Speaker 1: person to be able to monitor.
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  Speaker 2: There, Well, yeah, if you're afraid someone's going to be volatile.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, don't they always say when your boss, Like
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  Speaker 2: sometimes if you get taken out to lunch, that's when
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  Speaker 2: you get fired. Like they do it on purpose so
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  Speaker 2: you don't have an emotional reaction, so they can control
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  Speaker 2: you in a controlled environment. So it's manipulative.
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  Speaker 1: So these two broke up. We move on to the
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  Speaker 1: next thing here ropes. They had these ceremonies where they
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  Speaker 1: almost seem like they're a wedding ceremony, giving these little vows.
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  Speaker 1: You grow to your vows. They went through all this,
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  Speaker 1: but Huda and Chris were too. We stick with them
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  Speaker 1: where they did have very nice, very nice and glowing
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  Speaker 1: things to say about each other. Two points on this
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  Speaker 1: again a relationship issue here, Ask yourself, can you can
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  Speaker 1: you truly be friends with somebody after dating them? Can
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  Speaker 1: you like truly like we go from we were partners
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  Speaker 1: and living together and for three years and now we
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  Speaker 1: broke up and we're just genuinely going to be friends.
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  Speaker 1: Can that happens? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I think that can happen. I've seen it with other people.
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  Speaker 2: I've never experienced that, Menita, but I do think it
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to imagine that. I know what's
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  Speaker 2: going on inside anyone else's relationship. But I would venture
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  Speaker 2: to say that it's likely there wasn't that passion between them.
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  Speaker 2: So if you don't like some relationships aren't romantically passionate,
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  Speaker 2: and if you don't have that all or nothing feeling
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  Speaker 2: about that person, it might be much easier to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I like you, but just not in that way, and
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  Speaker 2: we figured it out over time and that way. In
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  Speaker 2: those types of relationships, I think you can be friends.
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  Speaker 1: Again. I've never experienced it.
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  Speaker 2: I've never experienced it either.
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  Speaker 1: I have never had a desire, nor have I for
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  Speaker 1: it in the least bit. I thought it was interesting
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  Speaker 1: that he when she said, hey, you make sure we
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  Speaker 1: get together late and we have some common friends. You're
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  Speaker 1: sure you're going to be cool, he was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to promise you or tell you that
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  Speaker 1: everything's going to be okay. I guess people can be
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  Speaker 1: in different places. I just don't get from the person
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  Speaker 1: being dumped from the person being hurt, how we can
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  Speaker 1: go back to a friendship. It seems difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Chris seems like, well he was the hurt party, and
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  Speaker 2: I also was kind of I was so impressed with him.
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  Speaker 2: Huda announces to everybody. She actually said to the whole group,
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  Speaker 2: I Chris wanted to continue outside of the villa, but
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to be friends. So she basically, in
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  Speaker 2: front of all these folks they've been with for two months,
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  Speaker 2: told everybody that Chris wanted me, but I didn't want him.
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  Speaker 2: And he handled it with such class and such grace.
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  Speaker 2: I was so impressed by him. And then even hearing
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  Speaker 2: his speech to her, he was kind, he was loving,
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  Speaker 2: he was gentle, and he, to me, was the one
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  Speaker 2: who seemed like, I don't want to say the wronged party,
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  Speaker 2: but the dumped party in a sense. And I just
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  Speaker 2: thought he handled it so well. I was so impressed
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  Speaker 2: with him, And I actually was impressed with her speech too,
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  Speaker 2: because she talked about instead of look how many times
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  Speaker 2: when you break up with someone or you're broken up
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  Speaker 2: with you immediately go, he did this, and he did that,
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  Speaker 2: and why did he have to do instead? She said,
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  Speaker 2: here's what I learned about me. Here's what you taught me.
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  Speaker 2: I needed to grow, I needed to be grounded, I
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  Speaker 2: needed to I like what you said. She said that
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  Speaker 2: he taught her how to have a more emotional connection
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  Speaker 2: rather than a physical one, so I just thought about
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  Speaker 2: this as an applicable learning tool. If you're in a
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  Speaker 2: situation where you are breaking up with someone, Instead of
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  Speaker 2: immediately going to say how the other person is bad
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  Speaker 2: and wrong and horrible and all those things, if you
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  Speaker 2: could just say what did I learn from this relationship?
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  Speaker 2: And what did I learn about myself? And how can
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  Speaker 2: I be a better partner for my next relationship. I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was just a really cool way to think
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  Speaker 2: about breaking up.
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  Speaker 1: I want to point out as a part of this,
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  Speaker 1: I want Everett, you and I talk about this all
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  Speaker 1: the time. There are behaviors we can look on the
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  Speaker 1: show and go, wow, I see that, but it's hard
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  Speaker 1: for us to apply to ourselves. Chris did something last
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  Speaker 1: night when she dumped him, for lack of a better phrase, there,
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  Speaker 1: he reacted in a way I know you noticed we
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  Speaker 1: haven't talked about this, but he immediately went into yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's good. Why don't you just tell me I knew
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  Speaker 1: those Probably case you could tell that was pride. There
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  Speaker 1: was ego, yes hurt, Yes he was hurt, so he
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  Speaker 1: was trying to protect himself. I was saying, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: knew it. Anyway, ain't no sweat off my back. And
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  Speaker 1: you can stop for a second. How many of us
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  Speaker 1: have led that pride and that ego getting the way
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  Speaker 1: in that moment and it led him to and this
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: is love, Chris. There were a couple of missteps. He
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't carry it back over the water.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: That was tough.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't carry back over the water. And I get
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: why that was difficult for him. But in that moment,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: ask all of ourselves, when when you're hurt like that,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: how do you react? And we often do that by
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: protecting ourselves with pride and ego, and sometimes it comes
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: out in a way that Chris isn't going to be
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: proud of. He looked like a jerk, not a gentleman,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and not loving. This is somebody you still care about, right,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: She didn't slap you, she didn't cheat on you. You
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: still care about her. I know it's fresh, but in
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: those moments, I just if you stop everybody and just
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: look and see it happening there, and then go back
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: in your own world and look and see how you
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: reacted that way when you were hurt. It was pride,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: it you know what?
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: It was so interesting. So when so Huda was crying
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: and he came back as he got up and left.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: He came back, she was crying. I thought that maybe
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: he thought she had second thoughts, that maybe she was
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: just and he was going to call her bluff and
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: when she was kind of like, no, I'm I'm just
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: sad because you know, we are over, and I think
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: that was like an extra wound. I think when he
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: came back, he thought maybe she might have second thoughts,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: or she might change her mind, or maybe she was
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: just posturing, and I think it was like an extra
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: punch to the gut. And that's why he was like, nah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not walking you over. So she had
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: to take her heels off, lift up her dress, and
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: walk because they were literally walking on water or through
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: water to get to their very romantic, beautiful table.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing he did, he refused to
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: sleep in the hideaway. Sorry, in the hideaway, he refused
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: to sleep with the group the final night and went out.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And that's fine. He didn't huff and pop, he didn't
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: make a scene. He didn't and I did appreciate that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: But he did what he needed to do, perhaps just
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: for his own ego and his own that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Part I was okay with yeah, going to say that's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: that's tough to sleep.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: In the same bed with someone you just who you
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: just broke up with.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And you're surrounded by couples who are enjoying themselves and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: like each other. That's tough.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I kept thinking about how hard that must have been
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: for him, and she was. You know, she did say
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: some very insensitive things like I'm free from the shackles
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: of a man. She came back and said that stuff.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: That's not okay, that wasn't cool. I didn't cause he
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: just I thought for the most part, he he I
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: felt for him. I hurt for him.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yah, He've made very few missed ups, even the ones
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: he made. You almost okay, you understood, all right, We'll
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: stay with us, folks. We got a couple more to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: go through here, including the big one. Robot is going
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to explain why Prince Charming just does not exist and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you need to get it out of your head right now. Also, friends, first,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: apparently it actually does work, and ask yourself this right now.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Think about the last last person you broke up with.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Do you have kind words to say about them? Right now? Hey,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the folks, we continue with our big thank you for
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the cast of Love Island, USA for showing us all
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: what to do and what not to do sometimes in relationship.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: With so many relationship lessons, We've gone through several of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: them already. Rose. But right now, can I ask you,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: do you have if you need it to say kind
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: words about your xxes? Could you write a speech almost
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: phrasing them?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I mean I could have some kind things to say,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: for sure, but it'd be very hard to give a
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: speech about it, especially right after the breakup. That would
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: feel almost impossible with some distance in some years. Yes,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you could have some moments of reflection, how about you?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Could you?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. I would never ever like I'm sitting
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: here right now and feeling physically ill about the idea
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of potentially trying to put something together to something like
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: we saw last night. As a matter of you can
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: point out there were good things or positive traits about
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: somebody you're in a relationship with, And certainly if you
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: were in a relationship with anybody for any significant amount
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: of time, not every single moment and every single day
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: was bad. So there's got to be something in there.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But the idea of now putting yourself or putting myself
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I should speak too in that position and what does
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that say about me and those relationships that could be
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: for me? It's just a personal I'm not putting myself
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: in any mindset. Maybe it's an indication of how those
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: relationships ended I had. Yeah, well I had two divorces,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: one bad, but the rest of my relationships hasn't been
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: an issue necessarily ending badly. But still that idea of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: doing that is still after years is not something I'm
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: in a position today.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It's funny when you say it does make me feel
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: physically ill to think about. I don't know. What does
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that say about it?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Don't know, says something about us or about the relationships.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, And some people might just be different,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: like no, I don't of course I don't want to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: do that. It's just like some people say, no, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: don't want to be friends with my ex. Yeah, don't
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: hate them, don't wish them any ill will Oh yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I wish nothing but the best. But I don't want
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: anything to do and I don't want to you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I don't even want my brain or my energy to
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: go there. That just takes a lot. I again, I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: was so super impressed with the ability of them to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: say kind things about each other.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: One side lesson here for everybody, and I know you're
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: on board with this. They go from a night at
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the dinner, he doesn't want to carry her, she is crying.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: She say, I'm free from the shackles of a man.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But then once they got just twenty four hours distance
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: from it, they were able to just calm down and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: speak differently. That often happens in the moment. It's different.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: You just think on it for a second, take a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: little sleep, and you come back and go, Okay, I
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have said dad or But that was another example
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: right in front of us how they could go from
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that to that if they just got a little rest
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: or separation from the moment.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: That's true, that's good. That's a very important lesson to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: learn in life from this show is that when you're
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: having even an argument with someone, you're still in a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: relationship with man, if you can just take a beat
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: sometimes and just wait and let the emotion do what
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: it's going to do, and then let logic make better
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: choices for what comes out of your mouth.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: All right, The last couple lessons here what having to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: do with friends, Oh, Nicko and Orlandry, I guess are
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the best example people.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Talk about and and Iris and Pepe. They were both
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: of them, Both of those couples were just friends and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: were helping each other navigate other romantic relationships in the villa.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Does that sound familiar, TJ?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Hey does? We talk about this all the time, And
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: several people who have come to us reached out to us,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: even our Yahoo column, talking about looking for someone looking
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like I'm trying to find someone to date, and we
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: have said, don't dismiss the fact that person might be
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in your life right now and you ain't thinking about
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: them at all. In that way, we can raise our
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: hands and attest to that absolutely being the case. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: this last night to see it on display Nicko Orlandria
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that though in Iris and Pepe, this wasn't just they
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: hooked up later, they were actively not even considering each other,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: helping each other. Dat d yes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And that's what you and you and I were literally
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: helping each other in our relationships. You would say, hey,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: this is happening. What do you think? And I'd say, hey,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: this is happening. What do you think? We were genuinely,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: without any any other designs, leaning on each other. And
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what we saw happen out of two out
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: of the four couples in the final four. I actually
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: wanted I actually wrote down what Landria said because I
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: thought it was so cool. She said, I really think
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the foundation to a great relationship is always friendship. When
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: there are no expectations and no pressure, the person standing
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: by you through it all may actually be the person
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you were meant to find. That spoke to me obviously
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: because of our relationship, know what, and no pressure, she said,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: no expectations and no pressure, and that is when actually
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you get to know a person. You're not putting on airs.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: You're not putting your best foot forward in the sense
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like hey, I want you to think I'm hot, or
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: hey I want you to think I'm cool. You're just
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: being yourself. And when you can fall in love with
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that person, it's kind of amazing, and you're.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I get you're ultimately you're setting yourself, you're setting yourself
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: up for success, and you don't even realize you said
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: putting on airs. This idea that I always say, We'll
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: say it all the time. When you meet somebody for
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the first time, at first start dating, you're only meeting there.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Representative and you're not going to meet the actual just
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: sending that person in to represent.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Them and the best version of themselves.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Until it's time for you to meet the ree of them.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But when you because you have an expectation that this
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: person wants this, or we're going to be this eventually,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: or we could get married. So yeah, you behave differently
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: when you just have a friend who is burping in
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: front of you and chewing their food funny, and we'll
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: drink and get a mess with you and you have
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to help them home sometime and you hear them all
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the messy parts because it's a friend and you You
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: are learning to grow in love with someone because of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: who they are and not because of what they represent
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: in your life or could potentially represent. That changes everything
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it actually does. So now I'm sitting here with you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You could do all kinds of outlandish ish, but I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: know you as a friend. First. You have done things
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to me as a partner that don't mean to life. No,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying the point there is the only
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: reason you can get away with that is because I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: know you and the foundation as a friend first. The
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: only reason if we were just dating and I only
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: started like, well, I'll be like, way, hey, you remember
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in month two, where's that girl? She was awesome? Bring
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: her back?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: That's so funny, right, we don't have that experience, we
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: we you know, and yes that I think we were.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: We got closest at your lowest, lowest point. And when
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you see all the ugly and you don't have any
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: intention about actually being romantic with that person and you
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: accept them for who they are, and then the romance
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: comes later, it's because that's a part of it. You
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: knew them at their worst, you've known them at their worst.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But you know, I know that you weren't being careful
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: in some minutes and trying some moments, are trying to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: hide something from it, you know good, and hell, well
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to hide. So it's not like you're
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: having to know. We don't have to wonder where the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: other is coming from and what the others really thinking
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: about the other's behavior or what does that issue mean.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: We've seen it all as friends, and yes, when either
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: one of us behaves badly, when I get too quiet
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: after a fight, when it goes for four days and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you've gotten better, you've seen it, Yes, you've so you
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: don't have to take it so first. Those things are
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: so key, and I thought that was cool. The two
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: out of the four genuinely and we saw genuinely them
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: not be interested in each other.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: They didn't have like romantic or sexual designs on one
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: another initially.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: All right, and the last one here, folks, if y'all
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: are believers in prince charming, please and all of your
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: hate messages to one Miss Amy Robot. I'm gonna let you.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: You know I will, because look, and I said this,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Amaya and Brian were adorable. I am rooting for them.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I hope they write off into the sunset together to
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: use a fairy tale phrase, but I did it. It
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of a red flag because I know, Amaya,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I used to be you, and I think so many
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: of us girls are. We watch these rom coms, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I did see someone write a really interesting article about
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: how Love Island USA is kind of the new rom
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: com for younger women of this generation because we don't
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: necessarily have the prince charming, the pretty woman type of
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: theme anymore, because that's uncool, that it's not woke, because
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you shouldn't. The happiness isn't finding your prince but still,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: deep down, I think that narrative is in so many
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: of us girls. And I heard Amaya, even just in
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the finale, make more than four references of Brian. Makes
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: me feel like fairy tales are real? She calls him.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Is that my prince? She said, every decision led me
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to you, my prince Charming. She had this whole narrative
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: of him being prince Charming. And when you listen to
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: their speeches to one another, their representatives were praising the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: other's representative and that I get that they're heady and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that new love, that feeling of being in love and excited.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: But what they do is they put each other up
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: on these pedestals. You know what, I'm thinking, You're there
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: for me, no matter what. I can be myself in
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: front of you. Are you really being yourself in this
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: idealistic bubble? I just worry because when you fall in
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: love with the best version of someone and they haven't
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: had the opportunity of getting into the messiness of real life,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and how hard that struggle is and how sometimes divisive
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that can be because you don't actually but when you
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: start thinking, we think all the same things, we love,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: all the same things, you start getting this image or
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: picture of what it should be and what it is.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: But actually it's just the tip of the icebreak, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: so I just worry, so worry.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: But shouldn't it start like that? Shouldn't we be worried
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: if you don't start off with all the butterflies? Shouldn't
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you be as hopeful and Disney princess.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: As ever can be hopeful? But with but you have
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to have a real like they're like, it's gonna get ugly,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and he's not always he's not always gonna think what
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I do is he's not always going to like what
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I say or do or this she has the zoomis
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: she's I am going to annoy him? Her running around
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like she just gets lots of energy. Yeah, but like you,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I think you have to like it's it's scary. I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: think it's dangerous to think that all of my crazy
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: he loves and thinks it's adorable. It's it just.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Its yes, but he should right now?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Right? What?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: What did?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: What have you said to me? Which we you say
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: it in a in a much more realistic way that
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: makes me laugh. You've said this to me when we started,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: like maybe even probably in that first year when we
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: were romantic.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: You said, what to me, If I start finding your
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: little quirks annoying, we're in trouble. There are little things
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: everybody does. Somebody right now, every every woman, every man
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: listening can think of one thing that the person ever
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: relationship more than what does that annoy? That is just annoying?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And if you think about it, has it gotten more
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: annoying over the years? Usually yes, the first year, Oh
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: it's my girl. Second year and like, whoof, it's still
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: at it? Third year, like are you fucking kidding me?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Fourth year? I don't want us to eat together all
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: but it goes. But you should start out, it should,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: shouldn't we all? I don't want to. I get what
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you're saying, and I guess you're right. But this idea
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: of taking away this fantasy, this idea, idealistic, right, is
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: what we should say of a prince charming coming in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and what that represents now is not just a prince
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: from a Disney movie. Your princes can be somebody with
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a job with health insurance, who wants to have kids,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: who comes from a good family. That's still a prince charming,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: is it not? But we talk about sweeping you off
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: your feet and taking care of you and making you
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: feel like a princess always.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I think it puts a lot of pressure on men,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: and I think it creates I always say that expectations
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: are the thief of joy, because you have this expectation
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that someone's going to do this for you and do
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: that for you and make you feel a certain way.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: You always say nobody can make you feel anything. I
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: actually think people. I actually think people can make you
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: feel something. But you get to choose how you respond
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to it. But you can acknowledge the feeling and say, wait,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: what is it about me that's feeling this way, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: not point the finger at the other person. But I do.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: It's not that I want to believe I love a
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: rom com, I love happy endings. Who doesn't. But I
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: just get worried when these kids are young, and I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: sound so old right now and have had just enough
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: experience and relationships to know that I just I always
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: just want to warn young women, like, yes, relationships can
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: be beautiful, and yes, it's fun to be able to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: say that man's going to take care of me in
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: my emotional needs and physical needs and all of the above.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: But at a certain point you just have to remember
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: you have to be You have to be that person
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: for yourself, and that other person, your partner can supplement
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  Speaker 2: and bring joy to your life, but they can't be
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  Speaker 2: your source of joy, and they can't be your source
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: of being saved. You have to save yourself. You have
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to love yourself. And I know that sounds cheesy, but
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  Speaker 2: I just get worried because I do think that was
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  Speaker 2: in my head and it was probably a cause of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of suffering from me and a lot of
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: bad choices and relationships because I think us women, a
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: lot of us are looking for that. Maybe younger generations
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: are not so much. I think that a lot of
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: women are or young girls are changing what they expect.
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  Speaker 2: But I just I heard that. I saw that, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it resonated with me, and I thought, ooh, just let's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: not get too far into this prince charm?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: And how and what age were you before you figured
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that out? Right? That's why I say they're young and whatnot?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: What you described about the fantasy things, I didn't figure
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: that stuff out until I was early.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Forties, probably same, I would say it was in my
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: late thirties. I think early forties. It all comes crashing
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: down like what I don't well, just crashing down because
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you built up this fantasy. You build up these expectations,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: and it's unfair to your partner.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Truly expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Are you talking about the person is going to make
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  Speaker 2: me happy? This person is going to take care of
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: me no matter what. This person is going to support me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's enough. Okay, that drives me great. Anything
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I hear this person makes me happy. I stop you
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  Speaker 1: in your tracks. Anytime you even say that to me
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: about me making you happy, that I can't make you anything.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I always say you make me laugh.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I can't make you laughing, Yes you can? Okay, well, folk,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: This has been quite a turn from covering the Ditty trial.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Every day we got a chance to, we talked about this.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: We would have probably been covering this every single day,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: but the Ditty trial had us putting out all those updates.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: But this has been fun. It has been interesting, it
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: has been serious, and it's been silly. It's been fun
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to be able to, no matter what what side of
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the aisle you're on, where you live in the country,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: what everybody is dealing with relationships, even if you're not
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: in one and have no desire for one. You got friendships,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you got coworkers, you.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Got every children, parents, Human.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Relation is was the Dolly Loma quote you said. He said,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you can survive without you.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Can't survive without what human connection?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Human connection? That's what an affection, that's what he said.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So we appreciate you all joining us along for this.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: This has been fun for robes. Not kind of I'm happy.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy it's over, and that the conversations
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: robes we've had. It also highlighted some nastiness about how
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: we view these folks folks on TV, and how we
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: treat them. It's it's been the toughest season in terms
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of I guess some of the bullying, cyberbullying as they've
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: been calling.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were so many lessons in that too,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: that these folks are human beings who have parents and
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: children and brothers and sisters, and so I hope everyone
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: learned not just lessons in relationships, but also lessons and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: how we should be treating one another and treating ourselves. So, yes,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: thank you. I'm actually like, I want to know what
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the next one is. I'm a little sad it's over.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I love this, I love learning I love. It's great
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: to be entertained and to learn something in the process,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and I think that's what Love Island, USA was able
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to do. So can't wait for season eight.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Well, the only we do not we have not been
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: coming on here. We do not criticize these Islanders, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: we do not criticize these producers of the show peacock
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: nothing and how they go about it about it. But
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: there's one thing I would put in the suggestion box.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Stop with the slow mo. Y.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, that's what I got. We're like ew ew.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: We were watching with our daughters even they were saying
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: ew too much, and.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: The audio of it is felt like I was watching
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the substance all over again with all.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: The body horror. I think that's a great note to
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: end on. Thank you all for listening to us. We
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: appreciate you and hope you all have a wonderful day.