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• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Is the reform it tonight the truth about that US
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: attacked that Iran claims killed more than one hundred schoolgirls.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Well so tonight broke Victoria and now charged Victorians for
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: looking at some of their own coastline and Harry Mega
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  Speaker 1: Markle to tour Australia. But for what and should we
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: save the Iranian women's soccer team, now threatened with execution
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  Speaker 1: back home? But first, what side of this war is
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  Speaker 1: the Albanezer government actually on. It's becoming ridiculous, this half
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  Speaker 1: in and half out with America and Israel, And not
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: just ridiculous, it's dangerous to our national security. It could
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  Speaker 1: cost us our nuclear submarines. Now, it is true that
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister quickly issued a statement saying he backed
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  Speaker 1: the striking Iran backed the America's striking say Israel the first,
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: But since then he and foreim mister Pennywong have been
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  Speaker 1: desperate to tell Australians, apparently to tell the left and
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  Speaker 1: to tell Muslims, no way would we join this attack
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  Speaker 1: on Iran, which only happens to be the world's biggest
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  Speaker 1: sponsor of terror, the regime that's been working on a
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  Speaker 1: nuclear bomb, the regime which just last January massacred up
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  Speaker 1: to thirty six thousand of its own people.
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  Speaker 2: We are not engaged in offensive conduct offensive action against Iran.
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  Speaker 2: We are not participating in offensive action against Iran.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder why they're so anxious to make all that clear.
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  Speaker 1: Is that because the labor is desperate not to anger
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  Speaker 1: the left and anger all those Muslim labor voters who
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  Speaker 1: are against any attack by the West on a Muslim country,
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  Speaker 1: so many of them. Now that a Cumberland councilor in
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  Speaker 1: Sydney arpe at uf can tell those Muslims mourning for
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  Speaker 1: the assassinated Supreme Leader of Iran, a mass murderer, that
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  Speaker 1: this councilor is with Iran.
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  Speaker 3: I'm standing with you in complete or really online and
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  Speaker 3: offline to sent you.
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  Speaker 1: We all stand with Iran, and we all value that.
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  Speaker 4: You had it.
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  Speaker 1: And is wrong even telling the truth here. This is
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  Speaker 1: not our fight. I mean, aren't how Pine gaps By
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  Speaker 1: facilities involved? And don't we make parts for the F
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  Speaker 1: thirty five fighters being used by Israel in the US.
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  Speaker 1: Wong had a laughable answer to that some time ago.
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  Speaker 5: Look, you've insisted Australia's not selling weapons to Israel. Australia
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  Speaker 5: does sell parts, of course, to the F thirty five
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  Speaker 5: Joint Strike fighter that's used by Israel.
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  Speaker 2: We are involved in non lethal parts.
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  Speaker 1: Non lethal parts of it. So we build parts that
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  Speaker 1: help these jets fly to Iran, but they're not the
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  Speaker 1: parts that actually bomb Iran. I mean, what is this?
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  Speaker 1: And yesterday it was even more stupid, same sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: We had three sailors deployed in the American submarine which
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  Speaker 1: sank an Iranian frigate off Sri Lanka. But our sailors
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  Speaker 1: they didn't actually help.
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  Speaker 2: Claims one, they did not participate in the attack.
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  Speaker 1: The premise said the same stupid excuse me? So what
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  Speaker 1: our guys hidden the toilets, they went to bed, They
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  Speaker 1: jumped in the sea rather than be part of this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't actually have to push the button
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  Speaker 1: to fire on a submarine to be part of that
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  Speaker 1: attack if you're and the crew. And now it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be getting crazier. I fear the government is now
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  Speaker 1: considering a request for help from unnamed Muslim allies in
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  Speaker 1: the Gulf which are being attacked by Iran's missiles and drones.
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  Speaker 2: We've had that many countries which are non participants have
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  Speaker 2: been attacked by Ran. Through this, you would anticipate as
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  Speaker 2: a consequence that we have been asked for assistance.
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  Speaker 5: Australia may play a role militarily in helping protect neighboring
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  Speaker 5: golf countries from Iran's actions.
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  Speaker 2: We have been asked and we will consider in accordance
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  Speaker 2: with those principles.
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  Speaker 1: Now, those principles are to somehow defend our allies from
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  Speaker 1: attacks from Iran, this terrorist state that's now attacked what
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  Speaker 1: is it, twelve countries in this war, yet defend them
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  Speaker 1: without attacking Iran. How does that work? Because the most
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  Speaker 1: likely asset we could send, I guess is one or
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  Speaker 1: more of our six early warning wedge tail aircraft to
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  Speaker 1: detect in coming missiles and drones. But those aircraft can't
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  Speaker 1: shoot them down. Someone else has to. Well, our own
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  Speaker 1: fighters barely have enough weapons to but say they were there.
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  Speaker 1: More to the point, we can't help shoot down missiles
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  Speaker 1: and drones right because Iran has thousands of them. We
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  Speaker 1: can't shoot them all. Many of them are stored deep underground,
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  Speaker 1: far more than we can stop. And that is precisely
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  Speaker 1: by the US and Israel focus on blowing up Iranian
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  Speaker 1: missile launchers lowing up storage sites. But that, of course
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  Speaker 1: is exactly the kind of effective offensive action Wong has
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  Speaker 1: ruled out. Now, this government keeps pretending this is not
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  Speaker 1: our war.
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  Speaker 6: Don't expect any request for Australian military assets to be involved.
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  Speaker 5: It's a long way from Australia.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who's he trying to full I mean, of course,
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  Speaker 1: is our war to even at this side of the globe.
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  Speaker 1: Look right now, oil stocks are drying up as Iran
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  Speaker 1: shuts down the strait of a muz firing at oil tankers.
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  Speaker 1: Oil prices are soaring. Petrol prices here already saw and
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  Speaker 1: by our stock market today plummeted. Austraands caught up in
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East as well, and the jihadest threat around
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  Speaker 1: the world here as well is rising. It is our war,
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  Speaker 1: and it's also our war because our allies are asking
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  Speaker 1: for our help, and by the way, we need theirs
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  Speaker 1: even more. You had China last week threatening one of
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  Speaker 1: our aircraft to Seehawk helicopter this time. That is the
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  Speaker 1: sixth such threat to one of our planes from China
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  Speaker 1: in four years. Now. If China were to start a
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  Speaker 1: war in our region and cut off our oil supplies,
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  Speaker 1: how long do you think we would last? And who
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  Speaker 1: would we be begging to rescue us? Now? Obviously it's
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  Speaker 1: the US as no one else. And what weapons would
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  Speaker 1: we have to help defend our shipping lanes? Obviously, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's almost only the three nuclear submarines we're paying the
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  Speaker 1: US to sell to us. But we have now proved
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  Speaker 1: again to the US that we can't be trusted with
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  Speaker 1: those subs. We don't even want to help America and
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  Speaker 1: Israel in a war against Iran, a threat to the
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  Speaker 1: world in a war of civilizations, democracies versus democracy's enemies.
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  Speaker 1: Not just Iran, of course, but it's olies, Russia and China.
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  Speaker 1: Now America was already having second thoughts about selling US
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  Speaker 1: those subs. There is a report to USANs in Congress
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  Speaker 1: warn selling those substus could mean losing them at exactly
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  Speaker 1: the time that the US most needed allies. It said
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  Speaker 1: selling three to five Virginia class nuclear submarines through Australia
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  Speaker 1: would thus convert those submarines from boats that would be
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  Speaker 1: available for use in a US China crisis or conflict
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  Speaker 1: into boats that might not be available for use in
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  Speaker 1: the US China crisis or conflict. I mean seriously, because
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  Speaker 1: we might not choose to join. President Donal Trump is
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  Speaker 1: already angry with fickled allies. This just exploded. Britain's Prime
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  Speaker 1: minister for refusing their help with Iran at first, not
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  Speaker 1: even letting the US use joint bases. And now there's
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  Speaker 1: US pretending that we're not really in this fight, you know,
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  Speaker 1: desperate not to help more than we must. In what
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  Speaker 1: way could any US government trust Australia. There were signs
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  Speaker 1: of the weekend of division in the Uranian regime as
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  Speaker 1: bombs kept falling there with the targets now including not
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  Speaker 1: just some of Iran's oil facilities, but Iranian internal security
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  Speaker 1: agencies that have been shooting protesters. And that division was
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  Speaker 1: most obvious when Iran's president apologized for firing missiles and
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  Speaker 1: drones it almost a dozen of Iran's Musi neighbors, and
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  Speaker 1: seemed to blame Iran's radical Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.
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  Speaker 7: Soyer, I need to apologize on behalf of myself to
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  Speaker 7: our neighboring countries that have come under attack. And the
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  Speaker 7: Interim Council approved the decision yesterday. That decision was relayed
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  Speaker 7: to our forces that they should no longer attack neighboring
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  Speaker 7: countries unless there is an attack on Iran staged on
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  Speaker 7: their soil.
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  Speaker 1: At least three hardline Iranian politicians then attacked the president
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  Speaker 1: for being weak, and to prove it, Iran's military just
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  Speaker 1: kept firing in his neighbors. Anyway, The regime also announced
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  Speaker 1: what I told you last week. They decided already its
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  Speaker 1: new Supreme Leader would be Mashedaba come A, a son
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  Speaker 1: of the assassinated, the leader and favorite of the Revolutionary
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  Speaker 1: Guard Corps, hardlineer. But here in the past week we
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  Speaker 1: have had this shocking insight into the brutality of that regime,
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  Speaker 1: one that leaves me wondering if our government could do
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  Speaker 1: more to help Iran's women's soccer team. It's been in
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  Speaker 1: Australia for the Asia Cup. Now these players they know
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  Speaker 1: how savage around Zaya Talis can be because one of
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  Speaker 1: the teammates was shot dead in the protests against the
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  Speaker 1: regime in January. So in their match against South Korea
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  Speaker 1: last week, they refused to sing Herans national anthem, and
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  Speaker 1: for that, Iranian state TV threatened them with death, calling
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  Speaker 1: them traitors and just Melina Juni in jib Sharafoba Hammardon
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  Speaker 1: Hamsulin as I'm on a giant back football. An official
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  Speaker 1: the Revolutionary Guard Corps also warned all Iranian parents the
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  Speaker 1: children could be executed.
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  Speaker 8: After the Moneys had kiss and cares.
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  Speaker 1: Now these threats worked in private threats, no doubt as well.
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  Speaker 1: And yesterday's game against Australia, Iranian women sang their anthem
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  Speaker 1: and they saluted their flag this time, but fans waving
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  Speaker 1: pro democracy flags in the stands later followed the team bus.
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  Speaker 1: Convinced the women were flying home to danger.
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  Speaker 4: Supporters for the players could be in serious danger if
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  Speaker 4: they return home.
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  Speaker 1: Now, one of the players or a couple of players
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  Speaker 1: in the bus made the hand sign, so os this
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  Speaker 1: international sign, closing the finger fingers over a thumb. See
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  Speaker 1: for yourself. That hands signaled from players on the bus.
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  Speaker 1: That looks to me like a cry for help. But
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  Speaker 1: that that this response from our Assistant Minister for Foreign
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  Speaker 1: Affairs was appalling, so tone deaf.
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  Speaker 9: They must meet all of the conditions for the visa,
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  Speaker 9: and that includes a security check and health check, so
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  Speaker 9: there be no special circumstances granted to anyone that's competing
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  Speaker 9: in the Asian Women's cup.
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  Speaker 1: Good God. That said, it is tricky. I suspect the
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  Speaker 1: government may have offered the players asylum or checked on them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I can understand why they can't
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  Speaker 1: say exactly, because that wouldn't make it safe for those
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  Speaker 1: players or their families back home. But still you can't help.
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  Speaker 1: You can't see this without wondering. You know what more
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  Speaker 1: we could do with the players today locked in their hotel.
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  Speaker 1: You also can't see this and wonder what kind of
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  Speaker 1: mosques here and local counselors so that we stand with
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  Speaker 1: this regime that is capable of such terror. Joining me
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  Speaker 1: is Iranian freedom activists and sociologists Doctor Samoya Khanni Samoia,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much again for your the Uranian women's
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  Speaker 1: soccer team. How much danger do you think they're in?
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  Speaker 10: Thank you for having me Andrew. We're deeply concerned. The
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  Speaker 10: danger is deathly. It's a complicated situation with the girls,
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  Speaker 10: but in terms of the danger that's awaiting them, as
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  Speaker 10: you mentioned, death sentence, imprisonment, long term imprisonment, as well
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  Speaker 10: as threats death threats to their family. Families and their
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  Speaker 10: assets are also kept by the government, and at the
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  Speaker 10: same time those girls are worried about their family members,
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  Speaker 10: and we understand how concerned they must be with the
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  Speaker 10: situation that's and dangers both them and their families. As
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  Speaker 10: I said, it's very complicated for those girls to make
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  Speaker 10: decisions to understand what kind of a danger they're going
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  Speaker 10: back to.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I get the complication, particularly the risk of their
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  Speaker 1: own families at home, and I get that the government
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  Speaker 1: can't tell us what it's been doing. If anything, I
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  Speaker 1: presume it has been doing something. But what more do
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  Speaker 1: you think Australia could do to help them.
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  Speaker 10: By being clear on what support is available to them.
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  Speaker 10: And to add to your points mentioned earlier on Saturday,
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  Speaker 10: one of our community members in the diaspora tried to
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  Speaker 10: reach the girls and show them tell them what kind
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  Speaker 10: of support is available to them, but the Regime Watchdog
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  Speaker 10: didn't allow that to happen and ask the hotel to
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  Speaker 10: warn the guests not to get close to the girls,
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  Speaker 10: and then after the second warning, they asked the police
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  Speaker 10: to kick the girl the community member out with her
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  Speaker 10: family and to two kids. So in our view, Australia
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  Speaker 10: could have been more supportive of the way we can
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  Speaker 10: reach the girls and also stop the intimidation of.
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  Speaker 1: The IRGC rules. Here.
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  Speaker 10: Basically, IRGC is ruling on our soil, Australian soil, by
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  Speaker 10: intimidating the girls and intimidating the diaspora members in a
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  Speaker 10: hotel in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: So, Ma, can I just clarify that. Are you saying
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  Speaker 1: the police actually kicked out an Australian Iranian who was
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  Speaker 1: trying to offer them help kick them out of the hotel. Yes.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, because the IRGC member, the watchdog I call them,
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  Speaker 10: warned the security hotel.
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  Speaker 1: Police do or don't do. I think it is just extraordinary.
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  Speaker 10: This is what happened on Saturday, and the community member
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  Speaker 10: was there in the hotel on a holiday to celebrate
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  Speaker 10: her birthday on Friday, and she still had paid for
• 15:05
  Speaker 10: tonight on Saturday. But because she had been warned the
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  Speaker 10: night before and she didn't comply with the rules of
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  Speaker 10: IRGC on Australian soil, she was kicked out with her family.
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  Speaker 1: I am shocked and disgusted by what you tell me.
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  Speaker 1: That is astonishing. That is just absolutely astonishing. Look, there
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  Speaker 1: might be another side to this and we'll try to
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  Speaker 1: check that out. But if it is as you say,
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  Speaker 1: the police have got some questions to answer here, unbelieve
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  Speaker 1: who runs this country? Now, Moshtava come in a son
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  Speaker 1: of the assassinated leader. What kind of man is he?
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  Speaker 1: What signal does it say that he has now been
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  Speaker 1: picked by the clerics to be the supreme leader.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, he is the second eldest son of the late
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  Speaker 10: leader of the country, Wachtava, and he is basically born
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  Speaker 10: and raised into IRGC. He is a symbol of IRGC.
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  Speaker 10: He is not a religious figure like his father was,
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  Speaker 10: but he is a power driven He is the violent one.
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  Speaker 10: If the father was violent, he is way more violent
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  Speaker 10: than his father. And what he preaches for is more.
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  Speaker 10: He's just keeping the regime safe. And this is the
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  Speaker 10: signal the clerics are sending to the world that we
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  Speaker 10: are not going to bow down. We even under bombardment.
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  Speaker 10: We are gonna continue protecting the regime with whatever we have.
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  Speaker 10: And we're bringing a hardliner who's worse than his father
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  Speaker 10: as the second as the third supreme leader of the regime.
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  Speaker 1: It's also seems to be corrupt. The to zyebrows Bloomberg's
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  Speaker 1: up ordered that he's got a massive portfolio property overseas
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  Speaker 1: worth more than one hundred million dollars two luxury apartments
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  Speaker 1: overlooking the Israeli embassy in London. Management control of a
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  Speaker 1: Hilton hotel in Germany. I mean, I suggest that some
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  Speaker 1: of the western countries now grab some of those properties
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  Speaker 1: if they can. Samoa Canni, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: keeping us in touch with what's really going on, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll chase up that amazing story you've given us. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for your time. I'm I'm just stagging. If that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Please telling a guest trying to help these women to
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  Speaker 1: get out of the hotel. I mean, that can't be true.
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  Speaker 1: We'll check that. This war, as a media underlined how
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable Australia is in other ways. Our supplies of petrol,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: for instance, can be cut off just like that. Now
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: China's got enough oil for one hundred days and it
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: can refine it. We have enough petrol for just thirty
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  Speaker 1: five days, and already we've got panic buying. And this
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  Speaker 1: strikes me as a very dangerous weakness. Joining me Michael Kroger,
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  Speaker 1: former president of Victorian Liberals, the Steve Conroy, former Labor
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  Speaker 1: senator and Cabinet minister. Michael, we have been exposed by
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  Speaker 1: this war, well, we have.
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  Speaker 3: Been, Andrew, but you know, Andrew, the world's at war.
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  Speaker 3: This is World War three. I mean, I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is a fight for civilization. As you've said and we've
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  Speaker 3: said on this show before, anyone that knows anything about
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  Speaker 3: international politics knows that, effectively, for the next one hundred years,
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  Speaker 3: this is a battle for the soul of mankind being
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: fought in the Middle East, with every major country in
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  Speaker 3: the world looking on or having an indirect or direct interest,
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  Speaker 3: Every Western country, every Muslim country one way or the other. Britain, France, Germany,
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  Speaker 3: the Middle East, the Gulf States, Iraq, America, Singapore, China, Russia.
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  Speaker 3: This is a civilization or battle. And quite Frank Andrew,
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  Speaker 3: this is what happens in a war. So people say, well,
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  Speaker 3: the price of oil's gone up. Yes, that's what happens
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  Speaker 3: in a war. If you close the Strait to Homers,
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  Speaker 3: which counts for twenty percent of the world trade, the
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  Speaker 3: price goes up. And this may go on for weeks,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: it may go on for months. This is the price
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  Speaker 3: you pay for trying to defeat the regime which is
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  Speaker 3: just the modern inca nation of Nazi Germany and higher
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  Speaker 3: petrols of price worth paying. Higher oil prices are a
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  Speaker 3: price worth paying, Andrew. We all made our parents and
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  Speaker 3: grandparents have made sacrifices in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan over the
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  Speaker 3: years and World War One and World War II. You know,
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  Speaker 3: forty thousand Australians died in World War two, four hundred
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  Speaker 3: thousand Americans so far as seven Americans have died seven So, yes, Andrew,
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  Speaker 3: this is a civilizational battle. We have been caught short.
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  Speaker 3: That's a problem. But given what's at stake here, it's
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: a problem we have to live with.
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Conry, do you think the YouTube social media doom
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  Speaker 1: scrolling generation that thinks, you know, as asking are we
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  Speaker 1: there apter just one week of the war is up
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  Speaker 1: to the sacrifices involved in prosecuting it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, look to your core point that you're raised. Australia
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  Speaker 6: for the last ten years has not done enough to
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: secure what's considered to be the minimum ninety days worth
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  Speaker 6: of fuel and it is very disappointing to still have
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: a situation where we're not able to have that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: internationally recognized degree of.
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  Speaker 1: Reserves. So I think it's.
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  Speaker 6: Incumbent on both parties to want to try and build
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  Speaker 6: are reserved on shore. As said, this is a biparsnership.
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  Speaker 6: Morrisson government decided they were going to rent some reserved
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  Speaker 6: from America Australia. But actually we claim we now have
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  Speaker 6: improved our reserves because we've we've rented something from America
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  Speaker 6: that can be brought across. To your point, you know,
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  Speaker 6: if you're in a conflict, particularly with say China, getting
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: fuel into Australia is going to be a challenging. But
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: to your second point, I was in a chemist this
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: morning and interestingly, I was just sitting there when you
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: collect the script, and three people behind the counter, all young.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: We're all talking about how much fuel we hadn't reserve,
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: what the petrol prices were likely to become, and they
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: weren't being uncomplementary. They understood that these were issues that
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: they needed to deal with. So I think it will
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: start to bite. I think that I just drove past
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: the petrol station on the way here. I think it
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: was two dollars thirty two dollars forty a later, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: in a time when people when exactly I nearly fainted,
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: a time when people you know already you know, got
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: financial pressures to suddenly have this and I support what's
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: going on in Iran dealing with the regime there, but
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: there are consequences and we need to be honest about them.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: We just need to take the doom.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Scrollers to use your phrase, through this and explain to
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: them that this is something that we needed to do.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: And this is as Michael said. I wouldn't put it
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: quite as harshly as Michael puts it, but this is
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: one of the things that is an impact and people,
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: particularly the doom scrollers, need to understand that things do
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: take more than a week.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Michael, I saw the NAB today. Nestra threat
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Banker suggests one of the economists that if this lasts
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: much longer ago the inflation could go up to five percent.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I just wonder whether the understanding of what's at stake
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: in Iran is enough to overcome well, the sheer pain
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of people are going to feel when
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: inflation alreally is too high.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: No, if it gets that level's interest rates will probably
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: go up. But that's a consequence of a war and
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: we should do what the opposition in Australia should do.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: What Natalie Bennett did on this network last week. You
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: know who's Netna, Who's main opponent in Israel. He was
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: asked what were his criticism of Netnya who He said, none.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I stand with bib Netniaho in enduring a war. So
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the opposition, he's got to be very careful about criticizing
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: the Albanese government over this. Look at those appalling pathetic
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: people in the Democratic Party in America. But Andrew, here's
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: my question. I'd be saying to all those young people
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: that Stephen talked about, there's thirty thousand people just murdered
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: on the streets of in Iran. A lot of the
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: young people shot in the eye by the IRGC just
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: to blind them and keep them, try and keep them alive,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: but mark them for life. And for forty seven years,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: ninety million Iranians have lived under this modern day Nazi regime.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: But there's a few people in Australia to think petrol
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: price has gone up a bit much. Can you do
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: something about that? I mean, Andrew, there's been a total
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: loss of perspective. There's been a total loss of perspective
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: in the Western world. People in America. I've watched that CNN.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: They're talking about a forever war. It's been going for
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: eight days. The Vietnam War went for twenty years, twenty
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: years of Endam War went for the Iran, the Iran,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the war in Iraq and aghast and.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Went for twenty years. World War II six years. This
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: has been going for eight days, and they're.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Saying, oh, Trump's got us into a never ending war.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I mean it's terrible. Petrol oil's gone up. These poor
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: people in Iran for almost five decades have lived under
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: this brutal regime, and people here are saying, oh, the
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Albanizi government or the Morrison government for them should have
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: had Okay, well, of course, yeah, but I mean there
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: are bigger problems, right, the big Keep our problems in perspective.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Petrol's going up, okay, Okay, our fathers and grandfathers, many
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: of them were killed in war defending democracy. Okay, keep
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: these things in perspective. You know, it wasn't eight days
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: into World War II against Adolf Hitler that people were saying, oh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you know, war's going on for two again, said fellow Hitler.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: We'll just do a nevil chamber and we'll let him.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Let him go.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: No, the Americans are earned, the Israelis are doing absolutely
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: right thing. This will change the world forever and let's
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: just hope they can get rid of this brutal regime
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: and ninety million people in Iran? Can it last be free?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Stephen two more local politics. The one nation juggernaut it continues.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: There is now a poll in New South Wales showing
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the Coalition just the head of one Nation now in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: twenty one percent of the vote. It strikes me that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the Coalition faces a wipeout if it doesn't do preference
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: steals with one Nation. But in Victoria, of course that's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: been ruled out by the Liberal Party there, even though
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: One Nation is right hot on their heels on twenty
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: three percent. It seems to me there's a new breed
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: of go with the flow liberals who're too snobbish about
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: one nation. What do you make of it? Is this
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: a party that the Liberals can afford a snub or
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is it should it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Be desperate to make a preference steel Well, I thought
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: Paul end Hanson has already rejected doing any cozying up
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: and directing preferences in I think South Australia. But I
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: think I think we just started talking about last week
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: under the three electoral tests coming up to see whether
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: one Nation are the real deal and that cohort of
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Liberal voters who've defected to them are going to stick.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Farah obviously going to be key out of federal level.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: For Angus Taylor South Australia. I mean the predictions in
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: South Australia, the Liberal Party could almost end up with
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: no seats because one Nation will take their regional seats
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: and mal Analysis is going to eat whatever is left
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: in metropolitan South Australia. And then you've got the Nepean
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: by election here in Victoria, and instead of the Liberals
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: being focused entirely on attacking the Allen governments, if there's
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: a huge one nation vote in the Pan, the Liberals
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: are going to have to start spending money in their
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: seats that they hold to fend off one Nation, and
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: they'll be sort of trying to find a way to
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: bridge that divide, which you've talked about, how do you
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: win suburban seats and hold off the Liberals. I mean,
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: this is genuinely as tough a time as I've seen
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: for Liberals in my political lifetime.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I don't think that's going to be strong. My
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: nation VOD and opinion that's the seat next to me,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: but it's a little bit too, you know, privileged, I guess,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: but we shall see. Michael Krogistephen Conroy, thank you very
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: much to you both. After the break the truth about
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Iran's claims that the US murdered more than one hundred girls,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I said, there were things that didn't quite add up
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: about the tragic bombing of that girls' school in Iran.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I said that last week at bombing was almost certainly accidental,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: one that Iran and the UN and journalists around the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: world said killed at least one hundred and sixty five people,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: maybe one hundred and seventy, most of all of them
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: young girls, depending on who you read and how anti
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: American they were. And like I said, last week, something
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: did happen at the school, but the only supposed eyewitness
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: report by an alleged reporter couldn't be trusted, sounded like
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the Iranian regime's propaganda. And now I do think I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: have the full story. Claims by Donald Trump that the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: school was hit by misfiring Iranian rockets are also false,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: absolutely false, because look at the school and the Iranian
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Revolutionary Guard compound that was clearly the main target, the one.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: The compound was right next to the school. It seemed
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: seven precise hits. That is an attack. It's not a misfire.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And this picture shows how it happened. It's the same
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: compound thirteen years ago when the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: had the whole compound, including in the building top right
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that was later turned to a school. And they're all
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: behind the same war with guardtowers, and the Americans clearly
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: working off dated information when they did their targeting and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: with very tragic results. But were one hundred and sixty
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: five girls killed or one hundred and seventy five well, no,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the regime was careful not to release pictures of the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: guard core buildings that were damaged, because then you might say,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: hang on, were all the dead really little girls? What
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: about the soldiers? And when you see the coffins at
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the mass funeral for the dead, they're only about fifty
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and half are all adult coffins. And when you look
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: at the empty graves prepared for the dead, you see
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: fewer than one hundred. So bottom line, bad American research
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: caused the tragedy. The school got bombed, the girls got killed,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and that is terrible and horrible and clearly an accident.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't one hundred and seventy five dead, it seems,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and certainly not all girls. A lot of adults in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: those coffins, as you would expect from a hit on
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: what was predominantly a military target, recklessly housed right next
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to a school. Now, I said at the top of
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the show, what is this stupid game the Albany is
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the Governor's playing? You know, Oh, we're not really party
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to this war. We're not attacking anyone. There was a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: brilliant piece on exactly that an Australian newspaper today, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: urge you to read it. It is by the country's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: top foreign affairs writer, Greg Sheridan of The Australian. He
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: joins me every Monday, Greg, great to see you again.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Terrific peace and inspired meriatorial tonight. So I'll give you
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: credit for that. I acknowledge that now we have sailors
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: on an American submarine that the government says they weren't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: actually helping it sink that Iranian ship. We produce parts
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: for the F thirty five fight, as Israel uses the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: bomb Iran, but the government says, no, our parts are
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: They're the non lethal parts on the plane and now
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: this government's considering helping defend our allies in the Persian
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Gulf from Iranian attack without attacking Iran. What is going on?
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: Well, it's great to be whether you or Andrew, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 11: think the Albanesa government is not only an incompetent government,
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: it's a very very cowdler government. And it's true trying
• 31:00
  Speaker 11: to say to the Americans we're doing everything with you,
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: we're one hundred percent with you, but it's trying to
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: say to its own supporters and the Left and the Greens,
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: we're doing nothing. We're nowhere near those terrible Americans. It's
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: too scared of the Americans to say it thinks the
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: action is illegal, and it's too scared of the left
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: in Australia to say that it thinks the action is legal.
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: Because we do absolutely nothing or next to nothing for
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: our own defense. We rely one hundred percent on the Americans. Now,
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: part of getting close to the Americans is putting our
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: own troops into American formations. So we have quite a
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: lot of sailors on American submarines and that's supposed to
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: ramp up eventually to be four hundred. We have Australians
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: doing line jobs in the Middle East, US Middle East
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: Command Sentcom and in the US Pacific Command pay Com.
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: They're not liaison officers, they're doing line jobs. Now Albany,
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: he claimed, in my view, in a preposterous interview, that
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: no Australian anywhere in the world, you know, acting on
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: behalf of the government, had engaged in any offensive action
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: towards Iran. So what did the sub What did our
• 32:19
  Speaker 11: sailors on the American submarines do? Did they go to
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: the mess room, have a group hug and sing Kumbaya
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: while the Americans attacked the Iranian vessel in Sri Lanka.
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: Not only that our intelligence joint facilities with the Americans
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: Pine Gap is certainly providing missile targeting information to the Americans.
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: The submarine that took out the Iranian ships almost the
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: U S submarine almost certainly taking advantage of our Harold
• 32:48
  Speaker 11: Holt communications facility in Xmouth in Western Australia.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: So you can't have it both ways.
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: You can't say we are an indispensable ally of the
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: US and look all we have almost no equipment ourselves.
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: We're even serving on US equipment, and then say, but
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: the minute of thing is a bit unpopular. We're going
• 33:08
  Speaker 11: to pretend that our guys did nothing. Now I think
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: it's probably pretense. Did our guys really stop doing what
• 33:17
  Speaker 11: they were doing on the submarine or is Albanese just
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: taking refuge in the fact that maybe they didn't push
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: the button. God that shot the missile, God alone knows.
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: But this sort of miasma of unclarity mixed with absolutely
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: no effort on our own behalf is just a web
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: of cowardice for the Australian government and as a result,
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: for the Australian nation.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: What a contrast, Greg. You might recall the late Great
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Jim Mullen when he was in the Army, was Chief
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of Staff and the Combined Allied Forces in Iraq successfully
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: fighting the insurgency over there. There was no oh, it's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: not really part of the lethal thing. It's just sitting
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: in the mess room, you know. No, he was a
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: major general doing in command of American troops. And now
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: we go, oh, no, we're not. Really they're not. And
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I wonder, Greg, when we won't even openly help America,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and when we do give help, it's really tiny, tiny
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: little bit of help. Why would the US send us
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: through you know, sell us three or more nuclear submarines
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: after this.
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: Well, you're absolutely right, Andrews. So about twenty years ago
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: we made an principal decision as a nation, as a
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: government that our forces are integrated with American and British forces,
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: would go into operations with them.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So we don't do that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: If we've got an Australian soldier, you know, on a
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: diplomatic exchange mission with the Indonesian military or the Italian
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: military or something, he comes home if they're having actual
• 34:51
  Speaker 11: hostile operations anywhere. But we have four years been going
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: into operations with the Brits and with the Americans, and
• 34:58
  Speaker 11: that has been part of the intimate alliance that we
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: always boast about. But the Albanesi government is so scared
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: of its own shadow that now it's claiming we won't
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: even do that. But you know, it's planned that there
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: will eventually be four hundred Australian sailors on American submarines.
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: Theoretically we could hold all of them American submarine deployments.
• 35:24
  Speaker 11: So why would the Americans want to go on with
• 35:26
  Speaker 11: an arrangement like that? And our own defense effort is
• 35:30
  Speaker 11: so utterly pitiful that this is the only show in
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: town for us. So Albanesi is caught between trying to
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: be a bargain basement of Manuel Macron and also trying
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: to be all the way with LBJ. And you'd have
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: to the one tribute I would pay to Albanesi. There
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: is a kind of dark genius with the way he's
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: got away with doing nothing. The Liberals haven't effectively challenged
• 35:56
  Speaker 11: him on this. And because he pretends with the Americans
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: and he gives them some money and all that, he
• 36:03
  Speaker 11: has so far avoided a rebuke from the Americans. But
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: are they really going to take submarines out of their
• 36:10
  Speaker 11: line of battle to give them to Australia in ten
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: or fifteen years time. I'd be very surprised.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I'd be even more surprised because you can tell that,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: you know, fickle allies are right on Donald Trump's mind,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: given that the Britain didn't even allow them to use
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: some of its joint bases at first for the attack
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: like in Diego Garcia. So I think this whole issue
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of if we're an ally, will we be there when
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: American needs them will come into play when deciding on
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: these submarines. We shall see Greg Sheridan, thank you so much,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and congratulations again for that piece. Today again I urge
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: people to read it. Thank you. I'll tell you what
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: this war has been a blow for China. If you
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: think China has already lost in Venezuela when Trump moved
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: removed Maduro the dictator and channeled the oil to America instead.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: If China loses Iran, it's been buying ninety percent of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Iran's oil exports, another big blow. The big pieces are
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: moving and China is the loser so far. After the break,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: we are getting made to pay for looking at some
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of our own coastline, unless, of course, you're of one race.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Victoria's incompetence state governor is so broke that it is
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: now going to charge Australian to visit the state's famous
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Twelve Apostles rock formation on the Great Ocean Road. Charge
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: everyone in the amount to be determined, although of course
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: if you identify as Aborigin from the local tribe, it
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: is free. So this is so anty the poor and
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: races as well. Joining me Lisa Godard, former foreign correspondent,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: founder of ad Only Media, Ascarno's host The Niko di
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Giorgio at Lisa charging to see our own coast. That
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem right.
• 38:03
  Speaker 12: Well, if you're going to get this from anywhere in
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: this country, surprise, surprise, it's coming from Victoria. If they
• 38:07
  Speaker 12: haven't found another thing that they think they could throw.
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: It's pretty much a tourist tax when you look at this,
• 38:12
  Speaker 12: isn't it. So the only other thing they could possibly
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: do is tax you for breathing while you stand there
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: to look at what is a natural wonder. But look,
• 38:20
  Speaker 12: they're clearly not looking at the ongoing costs of this
• 38:23
  Speaker 12: tourism that brings in about over only two billion dollars
• 38:26
  Speaker 12: worth to the tourism economy every year, just that Great
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: Ocean Road alone. So people are going to say, well, look,
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: why am I paying to stand here and look at
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: some limestone stacks that are eroding faster than what the
• 38:37
  Speaker 12: Victorian government's revenue is. It's just outrageous, And you're right,
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: if you're an indigenous Australian it would be culturally insensitive
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: to charge you a fee apparently to go and look
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: at these limestone stacks. But hey, if you're another Aussie
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: that calls this home too bad, pay up.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I've certainly got an idea. Danika might charge the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: people walking down the street outside my home to pay
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: to look at my jack Aranda out there. They can't
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: look at it for free. Ian, what is this?
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: Maybe they could pay to get your autograph, Andrew, Babe,
• 39:10
  Speaker 13: that might be a better option.
• 39:12
  Speaker 12: No.
• 39:12
  Speaker 13: Look, look, firstly, I'll make three points on this. The
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: first point I'll make is I think it's an absolute
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: disgrace that everybody has to pay unless you are a
• 39:19
  Speaker 13: traditional owner. Well, how do you prove that you are
• 39:22
  Speaker 13: a traditional owner and also welcome to treaty? In Victoria?
• 39:27
  Speaker 13: We knew this was going to happen, and we're starting
• 39:30
  Speaker 13: to see the ramifications of that treaty that was implemented,
• 39:33
  Speaker 13: whereby Jacenter Allen is literally putting people into categories, doing
• 39:38
  Speaker 13: this by the color of their skin, and you know
• 39:41
  Speaker 13: what's next, reparations. This is the first stage. Secondly, I
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: do not believe that the state government is going to
• 39:49
  Speaker 13: put the fee money into fixing the local area or
• 39:52
  Speaker 13: fixing the infrastructure the environment, when you know they are
• 39:56
  Speaker 13: so far in debt. I was reading Andrew, Victoria's debt
• 39:59
  Speaker 13: prile has grown and by ten billion dollars in the
• 40:01
  Speaker 13: past six months, just into Allen's spending is out of control.
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  Speaker 13: There's already the emergency services levee, the COVID levee. This
• 40:08
  Speaker 13: is going to be tax payers, we need you to
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: fork up. We're going to say to you it's for
• 40:12
  Speaker 13: the infrastructure of the local region, where really you're just
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: going to help us pay down our debts. And Thirdly,
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  Speaker 13: what country do we live in where we're paying to
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  Speaker 13: see our beautiful natural cosline. This is not Italy or
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: Greece where you've got to page sit next to the beach.
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: I mean, we are so blessed in this country with
• 40:29
  Speaker 13: natural beauty and we've got to pay for it. Where
• 40:31
  Speaker 13: have we gotten to seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the poor are going to struggle to even ford
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: the petrol to go out and look at it, and
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: then they've got to pay a fee to look at
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: their own countryside. I mean, it's a joke, Lisa, This
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: is one for the people at Bush. The Buwerau Meteorology
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  Speaker 1: is plenty to say about how global warming will hurt
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: us decades from now. But here's the four cus it
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  Speaker 1: put out just at the end of January for the
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  Speaker 1: next just only the next three months. Have listen.
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  Speaker 14: Looking ahead, the long range forecast for February to April
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  Speaker 14: currently shows below average rainfall is likely for parts of
• 41:10
  Speaker 14: Northern and Southeastern Australia, while some areas in the East
• 41:14
  Speaker 14: are likely to see above average rainfall. Most of the
• 41:17
  Speaker 14: country shows no strong signal for wetter or dryer than
• 41:20
  Speaker 14: average conditions.
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  Speaker 1: But instead of that below average rainfall for amut of
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Northern Territory South Australia, we've in fact, in the past
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks had record rain, absolutely record rain in
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: some areas, including floods in Catherine, the Northern Territory records
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: in Sajuna, where I once played footy, huge rain. Another
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: bureau failed treasure that Lisa and Andrew.
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  Speaker 12: As we sit here tonight, you've got parts of central
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: and southern Queensland where the local council in the ISAAC
• 41:50
  Speaker 12: region has issued a take shelter and be prepared now
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  Speaker 12: because you've got damp spilling, you've got people who have
• 41:56
  Speaker 12: been caught in floodwaters, you've got homes that have water
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: through them. Solid disaster. And if you're looking at the
• 42:01
  Speaker 12: Weather Bureau as you say that prediction was, hey, we
• 42:03
  Speaker 12: should have lesson expected rainfall, well that's a very different
• 42:07
  Speaker 12: story to what we're seeing around the country, and here
• 42:09
  Speaker 12: we are putting all of our stock into the predictions
• 42:11
  Speaker 12: about as you say, what will happen a few decades time.
• 42:14
  Speaker 12: It's almost as if you're better off grabbing a fourtune
• 42:16
  Speaker 12: cooking and predicting what will happen on the share market
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: when you're looking at what the climatologists are predicting about
• 42:21
  Speaker 12: the future in decades time, and very little comfort if
• 42:24
  Speaker 12: you're a farmer who's looking at these long range and
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: short range predictions to try to plan what am I
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: going to put in the ground, because at the moment
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: harvest season is coming to an end, they're looking at
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: their winter crops, they're looking at what the Weather Bureau
• 42:36
  Speaker 12: is predicting.
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  Speaker 6: They're really just.
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: Out there taking a chance.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Ladies. I'm so sorry that it's such a short segment.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I had too much to say tonight, so I'll have
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to donate five minutes extraty you next week. Lisa Danika
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to Georgia. Thank you very much to you both after
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the break, Harry Meghan to tour Australia. But for what
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: plus meet the terror? Standing for a council election. The
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: one reason Western politicians are so scared of getting involved
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: in wars in the Middle East. Is mass immigration large
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Muslim minorities in their own countries. In Britain, it's so
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: bad that a favorite to win a seat on Birmingham's
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: council for a heavily Muslim constituency is Hamas supporter Shahid Butt,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: who has fought for Islamic groups in Bosnia and Afghanistan,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: was jailed in Yemen for plotting to blow up the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: British consulate there. He denies it, but more recently he
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: said this to Muslims about soccer fans from Israel coming
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: over to watch again. Remember Muslims, I'm not pacifist. If
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: somebody comes into your face, you knock his teeth. Art
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: join me from London, has talked TV host Samara Gill.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Samara always great to see you. Look, how does a
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: man like that get to be a hot favorite to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: win a council election in Britain?
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  Speaker 4: Great question and a great story that you've linked with
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: the Muslim vote, because he is really sort of the
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: poster boy for how it can all go wrong in
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: countries and liberal democracies. I mean that interview that you
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: showed is actually an interview that I did with Shahid,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: but I was one of the few journalists that he
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: would speak to and it was an interesting interview, I'll
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: tell you that much. I went into his Birmingham office
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: where he was operating from with a bunch of other
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: let's just say pro gaza MPs as we like to
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: call them over here, and you know, he had a
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: very interesting attitude towards women. He didn't shake my hand.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: He said that her masks were freedom fighters. He said
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: that he stood behind kicking people in the teeth in
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: that comment. I mean, we're talking about a guy that,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: together with this absolute wrongin called ukmed Yakube, got Jewish
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: people banned from attending a soccer match in Birmingham because
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: they claimed it was for the Jewish people own safety.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: These are not reformed individuals. These are dangerous people who, yes,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: you know, he appealed nine different times for his terrorist
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: conviction and he's still a terrorist or deemed a terrorist.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: So he's not a nice guy. And it is really
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: interesting because he's looking, it was looking like he's going
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: to win that seat in the constituency in Birmingham that
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: he's running for, and many others like him will also Be.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: And the thing that stuck out when I did interview
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: him was the fact that he kept referencing my community.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: This is for my community. And I said to him,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: what do you mean by your community and he said, oh, well,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: the Muslim people that I'm representing, And I thought, wait
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: a second, that's not what being a counselor is. Being
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: a counselor is caring for everyone, the white working class
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: within your community, the women, the children, not just your
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: own Muslim conglomerate. But this is who we're seeing. We're
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: seeing people have factioned them off and are just representing
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: the one.
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  Speaker 1: It's just really shocking to me, and so much for
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: all those Cumbe hopes of assurances years ago that everyone
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: was assimilated, it wouldn't take long and we shouldn't fret
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and blah blah. Well, now we've seen what really is happening.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Prince Harry and Mega Markle. Just to change subject completely,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: they're coming to do a mock royal tour of Australia
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: next month, Samara, where Mega Markele's going to appeal to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the Bogan vote by going on a podcast with Jackie.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Oh what is this visit all about?
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Oh God? Can they just stop with the pseudo royal tours.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're like pound store royals at this point.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: You just can't sort of understand why they're doing this.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: In a way, it's confected. It's because they're irrelevant. They're
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: falling off the news cycle. Megan isn't selling any you know,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: it was the Queen's dying wish. She did say in
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: that statement when they megxeted that she didn't want them
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: to be one foot in, one foot out royals. Now
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: over here we're calling them kind of gig economy royals
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: because it seems like they're just picking up jobs here
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: and there wherever they want to do them. They never
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: wanted to do the full time work. I think Megan
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: found it way too hard. But you can see, even
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: with their recent trip to Jordan, where they went and
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: sympathized with children who had been injured in the Gaza conflict,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: that they're doing this all wrong. I mean, they're very
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: lucky that they got out of Jordan just days before
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: the Middle East erupted, but you can see that they're
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: not privy to any of the sort of stringent protocols
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: that go with being a royal going on a royal tour.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I think it's totally disrespectful to the Royal family, especially
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: with all they're going through at the moment, and Meghan
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: and Harry it's just another cheap publicity stunt for them.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: What's you what's new?
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is new in one sense because Meghan
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: and Harry we're going to save the world. They're going
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: to make it a better place. Now just flogging jam
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: to Jackie O's fans. I mean, seriously, and what happened
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to this resolve? We are only going to now be
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: interviewed by up and coming reporters, you know, people just
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: starting out, people you don't know Jackie Oh, I mean, Chackie,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: how does she qualify? The whole thing is such a fasce.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: It is a total fast you can see.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I love that the Bogan vote.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can't get more sort of out of
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: touch or attitude with how Australia is. And to think, oh,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I'm going to stand up for women's rights and talk
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: about my you know, my plight and my fight for
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: freedom with Jackie. Oh, it's so unseerious. It is so unseerious.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: And I just I used to have maybe a shred
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: of respect for them. Now it's totally gone. At this point,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I can now see the truth of what Megan's PR
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: strategy is. Craven views that publicity here and there. She
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: doesn't care about independent journalists. She just doesn't. It's true.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: All she wants is a bit of a headline, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: unfortunately we keep giving them to her because she's easy.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: She's very easy to go after. But she makes it.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: She makes it like that verself Andrew.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but seriously, I mean, you hear about women's empowerment
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and all that, and she's thawing to a woman who
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: helped enable Kyle Sanderlan's to bully and belittle so many
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: people over so many years. I mean, seriously, Samara, always
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: great to talk to you, Samara gil thank you so
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: much for your time. Up next with Sharry Markson, But
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: for me, it's good night.