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Terry James: What Does The Bible Teach About The ‘Hereafter’? (REPLAY) · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hello friends, family, and Christ, thank you so much for tuning into another episode.
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  Great topic today.
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  We get to look ahead, past all the nonsense, and past the trials of this life.
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  And we get to look at the rapture, we get to look at eternity and heaven, and a lot of
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  good things.
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  We'll be focusing a little bit on a brand new book.
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  It's called Hereafter.
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  And the book is by Terry James and Jonathan Brentner.
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  Now we've had Jonathan on a few times, and we've talked about his articles and some other
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  things.
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  But I don't think we've had Jonathan on since the book actually came out.
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  So now we get to dive into it with Terry James.
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  I want to introduce him right now, and he's this brother I've talked to him many times
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  before.
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  He's an author, a general editor, co-author of numerous books on Bible prophecy, hundreds
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  of thousands, by the way, which has been sold worldwide.
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  He's a frequent lecturer on the study of End Times Phenomena, and interviews with
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  National International Media.
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  He is an active member of the Pre-Trib Research Center study group, and that's a prophecy research
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  think tank, founded by Dr. Tim Lahey.
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  Now if you're not familiar with raptureready.com, go to that website, raptureready.com, all kinds
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  of topics and resources that you can easily click around and find very easy to navigate.
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  I appreciate that very much about websites today.
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  The older I get, the easier to navigate the better.
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  But the book, again, friends, you can get it on Amazon, or you can get it right at the
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  raptureready.com website.
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  And Terry James, brother, great to have you on World View Matters.
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  That was great to be with you again, David.
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  Yeah, it's been a while since we've talked and not on this platform on this podcast.
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  So for those who are not familiar with Terry, his background is ministry.
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  There's a little piece of his bio that says, Terry James has been blind since 1993, due
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  to a degenerative retinal disease.
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  And he uses Jaws, J-A-W-S, which stands for Jobs Accessible Word System, which is voice
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  synthesis.
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  And that enables him to write and conduct business on the internet to edit books.
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  And he's edited several books.
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  So Terry James, tell us a little bit about your background and how you're able to be so
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  incredibly productive and effective in writing and just editing and all the things that you
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  do for the kingdom of God.
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  Well, it's got to be the glory because he's the one that brought me here to this point.
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  I started out as an old advertising public relations guy the way back when I was a youngster.
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  And the Lord decided that, you know, I guess he decided that he's going in a different
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  direction, which the loss of vision helped that in that, and for him, I'm very thankful
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  for the discipline to do that, and I believe it or not.
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  The loss of eyesight for most people would be terrifying, but looking back on it, now
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  I can see that it was something God used to focus me in on.
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  And I've written 47 books, and the reason I know 47 is because everybody always asks me
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  how many books have you written, and I finally looked it up on 37.
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  So, so now that that's kind of my background is an advertising public relations, but lost
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  my sight and lost my mobility.
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  I wasn't a public relations director for several companies, larger companies and so I could
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  no longer move around like I should.
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  So now I'm more or less confined to my office here, which is very good for me.
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  I like that.
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  Well, Terry, it's amazing.
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  It's not surprising, actually, that you'd lose track of the number of books.
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  I'm just looking at your website, now looking over in Amazon, and my goodness, I mean,
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  I've got a bunch of these, the disappearing, your revelations, dark dimensions, the final
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  remnant hereafter, of course, is the new one.
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  I've got deceivers, and that was one that's got various contributors.
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  There's Jacob's trouble.
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  Are you rapture ready?
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  Essays in Apocalypse, and so many others, my goodness, yes, so it's not surprising you'd
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  lose track, but the new book, it's called Hereafter, and I'll just mention the first couple
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  descriptive points in the book title, it says, it's far better than you can imagine.
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  That's the subtitle.
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  Then it says, have you ever wondered what your life will look like in heaven?
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  And it says, in the new book hereafter, Terry, James, and Jonathan, Brentner, explore
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  what the Bible reveals about eternity.
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  So Terry, I know you've written on all kinds of prophetic topics and from just different
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  subjects and you've touched on things.
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  But what made you decide to do this book at this time?
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  Actually, most of my books start begin with a title, but God has always given me titles
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  first for somebody.
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  Some people start different ways, they start thinking on how they're going to write a book
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  or so forth.
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  It's always been with me title.
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  I guess my old advertising days and short blurbs of advertising, copying and so forth.
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  So I was thinking, I'm an old guy, as you know, and I used to listen to Paul Harvey.
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  He was an old guy two way back when he was a radio guy, and people still remember his
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  name.
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  I think great radio broadcaster.
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  And I really enjoyed listening to him and do about 10, 15 minute programs a couple
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  of times a day.
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  And he advertised for a toothpaste, and it's never a good advertising because I came
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  in with a toothpaste.
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  I do remember what he said, excuse me, he says, you want to keep your pearly whites from
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  here to here after, then you need to use his toothpaste.
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  So here after I was thinking about that, I said, that would make a great title for a book,
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  especially since all of our books have really concentrated on the doom and gloom aspects
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  of prophecy by some people's standards.
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  The tough things of Bible prophecy, the judgment and wrath and so forth.
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  But it would be good, you know, now to focus on the hereafter, the life in heaven, the time
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  after this.
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  So I thought the title hereafter would be a good title.
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  And Jonathan Brentner, my co-author, he came up with the title, it's far better than
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  you can imagine.
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  And he just did a tremendous job on this and writing this book, matter of fact, he wrote
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  most of the book, Jonathan another response from most of it.
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  And I added what I could.
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  And so it's been a quite popular book, actually.
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  And now you know the rest of the story as Paul Harvey would say, right?
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  Paul Harvey, good day.
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  We didn't miss, we didn't miss a one.
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  We were every day at the breakfast table, my dad would put on the radio and we would
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  hear Paul Harvey.
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  And I would love particularly Fridays after a long week, you know what I would say,
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  good morning, Americans, it's Friday.
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  So Terry James, I want to focus on the subtitle because what you just shared, I think a lot
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  of people can only imagine, right?
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  All of us actually can only imagine what the Bible says about prophecy, about the end times
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  what heaven.
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  So share a little bit more about what is it that we do know?
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  I know we can only imagine what it'll look like and be like, but there is information
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  and scripture about what we get to look forward to, right?
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  Well, here's what Paul, Paul, the apostle said about, he said, he said, I have not seen
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  or heard, nor have it entered into the heart of man, the things God has prepared for those
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  who love him.
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  Now that's saying a whole bunch of stuff right there.
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  Amen.
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  We can't even imagine.
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  It does say though that because we have a spirit within us, we can't get some inkling
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  that what he says is true, that we do have a great and glorious future awaiting us.
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  Now the Bible also says that Paul says, again, he said, we are, we are joint errors with
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  Jesus Christ.
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  Now what does that mean?
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  Well, Jesus, he's literally the creator of all that is, the second, the second person
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  of the God, the son, Jesus Christ, he created all that is.
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  Now if we're joint errors and the Father has given him everything, and so we are joint
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  errors.
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  Now the joint errors, even in biblical terms, mean that you not only, you don't just have
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  a piece like everybody else of the Father's property, you have the entire, the entire state
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  is yours as well as everybody else's.
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  So that's in the heavenly perspective.
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  That's what it would be.
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  We all have equal shares in God's great, great eternity.
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  Whatever that means in the Bible says we can't imagine, but we're going to find out.
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  I love some of the descriptive points to the joy set before us, and without reminders
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  of Hebrews 12 to right, we just celebrated resurrection Sunday a few weeks ago for
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  Jesus, the joy set before him endured the cross, it says the joy set before us strengthens
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  our hearts for the many trials that come our way.
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  That's one of the descriptive points for the book hereafter, and talk to his Terry about
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  that joy set before us, the hereafter, and that will give us perspective when we do go
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  through trials, right?
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  Well, absolutely.
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  I mean, when you know that you, you know, Jesus said, you know, said the world will have
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  you little tribulations, but be joyful because I have overcome the world, and that means
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  you don't become all the tribulations.
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  No matter what Satan and his minions can throw at us, we know that God has our back in
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  our front and every part of us, because we are within Christ, we are in Christ, and from
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  him we derive our strength, and our power, as a matter of fact, that's only strength and
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  power we do have in this fallen world, because Satan is a powerful being, his minions are powerful,
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  but thank the Lord that he has to go through Jesus Christ to get to any of us, and that's
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  just not going to happen because of where God's children.
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  So talk to us about the joyous reunions, and the jubilant celebrations in heaven that
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  will take place after the rapture loosens our grip on the things of this temporary life.
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  Well, Jonathan wrote most of that book regarding that part, and he did a great job, and of course
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  I read it.
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  And it's just marvelous to consider when we leave this world, I believe we're going to all arrive
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  at the same time at the same place, not in front of Jesus Christ, no matter who died when,
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  and during the rapture, I think in some eternal way, outside of time, we will all arrive at that
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  one point at the same time. And at that point, we will all be taken into heaven, Jesus said that
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  let not your heart be troubled. I'm going to prepare a place for you, and if I go away,
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  I'll come again and receive you unto myself that where I am there, you can be also.
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  He's going away to prepare places for us. Well, what does that mean? Well, we know that it's a
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  glorious dwelling place in New Jerusalem that he will be preparing for us. And so the next thing
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  will be to see our Savior face to face, either in the rapture or through the portal of death,
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  either one, and there have been no sting in death, Jesus said, because he's taken all that sting
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  of death away. Of course, the next moment, and I can testify of this firsthand because I died
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  clinically three times on a good Friday of 2011, and instantly was in the presence of heavenly
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  beings. Each time I, each time it happened, I have documentation, hospital documentation on the
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  seriousness, clinically dying for three times. So I can attest firsthand, whether your way believes
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  or not, on being instantly, being absent from the bodies to be instantly and have only presence.
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  I didn't see Jesus, but then I wasn't my time yet. They sent me back. But the next thing,
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  when we do meet with Jesus, is we'll be set before that great beam of seat judgment,
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  judgment seat of Christ, where we will have all of our earthly, the things we've done in this
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  earthly life reviewed. And based upon how we handled these things here in life and they are handling
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  them now, will be our rewards in heaven. Now, this not a judgment for us. Our souls will be in heaven
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  forever. We'll be in heaven forever. But we will be judged on the works. And the works are not
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  and God's great, for God's great glory will be burned up the Bible says. And all that
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  lasts will be like gold, all this left of the fire, holy fire will be like gold. After the
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  beam of seat judgment, we go through this where we will sit down at the
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  upper table of the Lamb, the marriage feast. And with Jesus Christ, who is our bridegroom,
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  the church's bridegroom. And there we will have celebration and reunions. And with all the people,
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  we we've had new here on earth and all of our families. And it'll be a much closer relationship
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  than anything we can imagine. It'd be far more far closer in relationship than it is right now,
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  no matter what the situation was. At the same time, we will know every person who is in God's
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  family, everybody who's ever been saved. We'll know them as intimately and as personally as we
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  know our own family. So that's we can't cry grass, but that's the way that's the way God's word
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  I think defines it. Oh my goodness. It sounds amazing. And that's because it's going to be in the
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  hereafter. And we were talking about the new book, by the way, hereafter in the website, friends,
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  get right back to you. Terry James is our guest today author, writer, editor, researcher. Terry,
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  I want to go back to 2011 because I think a lot of people when you shared that and I've heard
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  your story before in more detail than we have time to get into now. But a lot of people are thinking
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  when you were clinically dead, when you came back, when you were able to wake up and be coherent,
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  was there any disappointment on your part with coming back? Can you tell us a little bit more
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  about that? Yes, it was disappointing leaving. I didn't know where I was or exactly what was going
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  on when I was there. Like I said, each time the heartbeat stopped, I knew instantly I could tell.
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  I heard this computer blip. It was like a computer blip. I don't know what that was all about.
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  But instantaneous leaving my heart stopped, I was in the presence of this strong of heavenly beings,
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  of young men and young women. They were handsome and beautiful.
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  Tall and handsome and they were just there bidding me to come to them.
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  And then about the time I started to them, the first time, it was three times that happened.
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  And the first time I started toward them, well, everything started turning dark.
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  And they again, and you know, I'm blind, so I woke up on the gurney blind, of course, dark.
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  And the next time it happened, on the way to the cath lab table,
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  the same blip, the same I was in front of the same group of people.
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  They were even more jubilant, jumping up and down with their hands in the air and smiling,
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  bidding me to come to them. I started toward them again.
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  And as I drew nearer this time, everything started turning dark.
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  And my first thought was, I don't want to leave here. I don't want to leave at this time.
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  But then again, I was on the cath lab table at that time. And the third time,
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  well, instantaneously, my heart stopped instantaneously, so I was in their presence.
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  And we were, I was among them this time. We were running like, and they had their hands in the
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  air and they were looking over at me and smiling and laughing and just a jubilant time.
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  And I was enjoying it. I was running with them effortlessly.
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  I had no sense of body, really just, you know, just like you look at somebody from
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  out of your eyes. Here I am a blind guy, seeing the most spectacular group of young people
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  you can imagine. We're running with their hands in the air and then I then,
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  it's lasted a little longer that time that session did. And then everything started turning dark
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  again. And I was again, I was again on the cath lab table. He had to hit me for about the fourth
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  or fifth time with the DFib battles. And so I didn't, that was the last time that I was in
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  front of those 70 people. But this time really didn't want to leave. And I said, you know, but
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  there I was back on the table again. And they had finished the putting the stand-in and removing
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  the blockage of that left-road descending ventricle order, they call it, at the Whittlemaker
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  Heart Attack. And the doctor said that they never seen anybody live with that much that that
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  deep a sense of medical problem. And they were all amazed. They were so amazed that they gave me
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  the Patient of the Year Award. And as I said in my office here, it's right over there in the corner.
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  They gave me the Patient of the Year Award, the cardiologist did. And they asked me to speak
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  their convention. And I told them about Jesus and about 15 minutes, 10 or 15 minutes, and I spoke
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  to them. And they all applauded. They didn't boo me so long. So they listened and I was good.
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  Fantastic. Patient of the Year Award. And Terry, you got a chance to share it.
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  All I did was live, yeah. I know exactly how you did was live. And wow, I mean, selfishly from
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  the body of Christ perspective, I'm thankful that it wasn't your time yet that God allowed you to
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  come back. And basically because of all the work that you've done, all the ministry, the books,
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  and all the great resources. So I'm very thankful, but I know you probably would have preferred to
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  just stay home. So yeah, let's move on back to the book here after because I love this topic.
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  We talk about culture a lot and all the junk that's going on in our schools, the government and
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  Hollywood, the corporations in our culture. But now we get to talk about the hereafter because
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  there's another book that really gets into some details on it. For example, you and Jonathan
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  talk about, you answer questions like, will we sleep in heaven? Will our immortal bodies possess
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  supernatural abilities in heaven? Do you want to touch on either one of those, Terry?
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  Well, the other reason we know that we will have supernatural ability because it says that we
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  will be like Jesus. We will see him as he is. We will be like him. We'll have bodies like like
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  his body. And he was able to move through walls, we're going to say, be in one place from one
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  place to the other in a moment. We will be much like Jesus in our bodies. And we will have
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  the same bodies here on earth, but much greater. I think goodness thing, much more glorious and
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  perfect. And I've heard it to analyze that our bodies here are flesh, blood, and bone basically.
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  There will only be flesh and bone. I don't know what all that means if I'm a standpoint of how the
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  scholars have parsed all that, but the thing is we will have perfect bodies. We will never get tired.
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  Now I'm hoping that if we want to take naps, we can't because I kind of like my naps now as an old guy,
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  but that my mind will probably change in. And so we'll see.
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  Yeah, that's interesting to think about. But we did celebrate Easter Resurrection Sunday recently.
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  And remember when Jesus returned, when he was actually before he ascended, I should say,
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  he did appear through the walls just in front of his disciples and the doors were locked for fear,
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  the Jews, and Jesus appeared. And so there are some things that are interesting because we,
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  as it says in 1 Corinthians 15, we will get those glorified bodies. So how will we move about
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  in the huge new Jerusalem? That's one of the things that you touch on.
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  It'd be 1500 miles cubed. My goodness. Well, I'm just thinking of each floor and how many
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  billions of people will be in a city like that if God has so arranged. Yeah, 1500 miles cubed.
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  That means you know, why does it is long and as tall as it is, why and everything else. It's just
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  a tremendous amount of no telling no one has called. It's like a giant gleaming jewel coming down
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  from for the darkness of space and so forth. And and everybody will see it at that time.
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  It'll be tremendous and we'll have to. I don't think there's an elevator in the world that
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  I'm moving at the way they do here that could get us around in that city. But I think we'll be
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  able to just by thinking about it. I want to see Todd Strandberg up in on a 15,000 floor
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  or whatever. I'll have to think about it and Todd will have me. I have me a you know,
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  probably a fully cooked meal and everything else ready. Just thinking about it. So so that's
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  what we can look forward to. Unless there are woncovators like Willie Woncovators that go
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  any direction sideways up and down diagonally. I was able to see that movie. Yeah.
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  So Terry, one more question. We've got about four minutes left.
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  The Bible talks about crowns. We Paul says we will receive the crown of life
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  all who long for his appearing. So talk to us a little bit about that. Are we wearing them the
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  whole time in heaven? I know we receive them at some point. Tell us a little bit more about that.
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  Well, of course, that was John. You know, when he first went to heaven in John chapter four,
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  I mean, Revelation chapter four, John was brought into heaven and so forth. And he saw all these
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  crowns that that people had. And we will be giving crowns at the behemoth seat, the judgment seat
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  of Christ. And I think the Bible says that we throw them at or we put them at Jesus' feet
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  because he's the one is deserving and we'll realize there's five crowns that will be offered
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  for different services. And Jesus says that when he returns, he will be wearing many crowns.
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  I believe that's part of symbolic of what we will be crowns that we have earned. And he will
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  he will probably wear those back to earth as we descend to put it into armor. He puts in
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  it armor getting. So yeah, we will receive crowns. And I think Bible prophecy, the reason Bible
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  prophecy is important to the Christian because God equates that with righteousness. Now that's the
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  crown of righteousness, the loving of his appearing. And all people who love his appearing again,
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  we'll we'll receive that crown now. If if Jesus is the only righteousness there is. And so that to
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  me is probably the greatest crown because it's called the crown of righteousness. And so that's
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  the reason Bible prophecy is so important. And I appreciate people like you, David, having
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  having us on to share things of Bible prophecy with believers and nonbelievers who will listen.
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  Well, Terry James, praise God for you and your ministry. And guys, they mentioned are they
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  tackle a lot more in the book hereafter. And just looking at the table of contents, a home just
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  for us, colliding kingdoms, rewards beyond imagination, a wedding and jubilant celebration,
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  joy to the world and to us. And we will inherit a kingdom. Israel's return to glory, a mountain
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  top experience, a king with no equal. We will reign with Jesus kingdom life. Why must Jesus reign
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  for a thousand years and a lot more in the book hereafter again on Amazon or you go to raptureready.com.
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  Terry James, God bless you brother. We hope to do this again. I'm sure we will with all the books
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  you continue to to pump out. So Lord willing, we will talk again in the near future. And thanks, Todd
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  for setting this up for us so we can see and hear Terry. God bless your brothers. Bless you.
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  Thanks Terry. Again, guys, check out some of his books really encouraging, especially
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  this new one as we get to focus on something so much more positive than what our lives are often
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  distracted by here in this temporary place. But thanks again for watching the podcast and for sharing
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  the truth about things that matter.