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Are the Eagles now the best team in the NFL? NFL Week 13 Reactions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: What Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode
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  Speaker 1: number eighty two of the so called sports channelists. Josh,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good? After another successful win for the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: we moved to eleven and one, you know, first place
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  Speaker 2: in the AFC. Some people are gonna have their opinions,
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  Speaker 2: but some people just aren't winners, you know. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just it just it just works out in winners favors sometime,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I'm pretty happy about it, but we
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  Speaker 2: need a couple of teams to start losing, like the Bills,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone else is losing but the Bills. So let's
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  Speaker 2: let's get let's get that on track Buffalo where we
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  Speaker 2: kind of just y'all kind of just go where you
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  Speaker 2: all are supposed to be below the Chiefs, but a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more, you know. So it's just like, let's
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  Speaker 2: start losing and my life will be a whole lot better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No. And then also one more thing, I know we
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  Speaker 1: didn't record last week, but just shout out to Josh
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  Speaker 1: let's go to get started. Usually we start off for
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  Speaker 1: Monday night football, but we're gonna switch it up because
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  Speaker 1: it's college football now, and so the Top twelve it's
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  Speaker 1: about to be released today, but I'm gonna give you
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  Speaker 1: the top twelve from the AP. Usually they're pretty accurate
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  Speaker 1: as far as they're usually hand in hand with the
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  Speaker 1: college football playoff. But I just want to see what
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  Speaker 1: you think, Josh. So they have Oregon one, Texas to
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  Speaker 1: Penn State three, Notre Dame four, Georgia five, Tennessee six,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State seven, SMU eight, Indiana nine, Boise State ten,
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  Speaker 1: Alabama eleven, Arizona State twelve. So what are you thinking
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  Speaker 1: about that after reading that Top twelve?
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  Speaker 2: I think after I think Texas is right where they're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be as of right now. I think I
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  Speaker 2: think their one loss coming from Georgia is a big loss.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a small loss where it's a lesser team. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I think george is better because I mean they proved it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna play again, aren't they playing? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: in the SEC Championship, So that's gonna that's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a big I think Georgia loses, that they're out, Texas wins,
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  Speaker 2: that Texas loses, I think they still have a chance
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  Speaker 2: of being in the top twelve. But other than that,
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  Speaker 2: I just think Texas's strength of schedule wasn't really there
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  Speaker 2: all season I think, and also this last game that
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  Speaker 2: they won versus Texas A and M was really like
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  Speaker 2: kind of just like, Okay, they are one of the
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  Speaker 2: top teams and they deserve to be in this top three,
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  Speaker 2: top two spot. So I think that that's correct position
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  Speaker 2: as of right now. Notre Dame's a little I just
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  Speaker 2: have a hard time with. I think until Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: gets into an actual conference, I'll respect them a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more. You know, where they're not taking and choosing
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  Speaker 2: who they actually play but they are eleven to one.
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  Speaker 2: They have beaten some good comp some good competition, but
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  Speaker 2: other than that, and then there's my college football playoff
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  Speaker 2: pick right there, Tennessee. You know, so I'm not mad
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  Speaker 2: at it. I think they they'll they'll bounce back a
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  Speaker 2: little bit maybe, and then other than that, Indiana's right,
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  Speaker 2: I think SMU is right. Ohio State, they they they
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  Speaker 2: got some stuff to figure out right now. But but
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  Speaker 2: the fact that Alabama's still in there with the fighting chance,
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  Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes when when all of it's
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  Speaker 2: done with the bowl games. I think that's my Actually,
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  Speaker 2: Miami's Miami is out there in their number fourteen now,
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  Speaker 2: so they've dropped very significantly in the AP rankings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just biased as far as being
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  Speaker 1: in their first and foremost because they have three losses.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else has one loss or two losses that are
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  Speaker 1: actually tough games. Here and Bama after what they did
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  Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, and I can't think of other losses on
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  Speaker 1: the top of my head, but I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: that they should be in there. There should be the
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  Speaker 1: Miami that's in there. But also what does help is
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina being thirteen that makes Bama look a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: But you said you said this before we started the
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  Speaker 1: bottom we're talking about this. It's all gonna depend on
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  Speaker 1: bowl games, bowl games. It's gonna decide we're actually everybody's
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  Speaker 1: gonna end up because the Big twelve chip Iowa State,
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  Speaker 1: Arizona State. If Arizona State loses, they're gonna be out.
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  Speaker 1: Then you have SEC Georgia, Texas. I still think Georgia
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  Speaker 1: will make it because here's here's my thing. If Georgia loses,
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  Speaker 1: because Texas and Georgia did play each other, and if
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  Speaker 1: they both have a loss, yeah, I'm thinking kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a Washington and Oregon kind of like if Washington
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  Speaker 1: and Oregon they did that last year, I think they split,
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  Speaker 1: they both make the playoffs, and then the other one.
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  Speaker 1: You could s say the ACC Championship Clemson SMU. SMU loses,
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  Speaker 1: they're out, so there's still chances for Miami to get
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  Speaker 1: in or the only one that I see for sure
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  Speaker 1: that's not crazy. Both of these teams are gonna make
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  Speaker 1: it is Penn State versus Oregon because they're both in
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  Speaker 1: the top five. And you could say, okay, well, Penn
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  Speaker 1: State they lost to Ohio State and Oregon, or if
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  Speaker 1: Oregon loses, you lost to Penn State, the third ranked team.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think they're pretty safe. I think both
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  Speaker 2: those teams are pretty safe in making it right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no for sure, but all right, and then let's
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  Speaker 1: pull up the bracket that you end up finding. So
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  Speaker 1: so exactly how the college football playoff works?
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  Speaker 3: Wait? What?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, just saying Miami that this is weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's weird. But you know what, I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 1: They're expecting SMU to lose to Clemson. That that's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm assuming. So, but so as of right now,
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  Speaker 1: this was this was posted yesterday. So it has a
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  Speaker 1: first four teams. What's the first four teams they get
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  Speaker 1: to buy? It'll be Oregon, Texas, Miami, and Boise State
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  Speaker 1: as the teams with the buy. Then you'd have Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: versus Georgia, Arizona State versus Ohio State, Indiana versus Penn State,
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  Speaker 1: sm U versus Notre Dame. So if you just had
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  Speaker 1: to predict which teams would make it out and go
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  Speaker 1: into the top four or going to the next round,
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  Speaker 1: who would those be?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? I think, oh, who would make in the top four?
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with in this situation, I
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  Speaker 2: think Oregon and Boise State I think are locks. I
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  Speaker 2: think to be in the top four. I think Texas
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  Speaker 2: and Miami still have some stuff as of right now,
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  Speaker 2: Miami in this in this ranking, I think both those teams,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be determined on their bowl games, on how
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  Speaker 2: they actually play in their in their in their conference championships,
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  Speaker 2: and so that I think that that's that could probably
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  Speaker 2: change around. And I think on the other side, with
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  Speaker 2: the other teams, Arizona State is gonna be a pretty
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  Speaker 2: tricky one for me. And then the I just think
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  Speaker 2: Indian and SMU they kind of are like short. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're they're gonna be on the short end of
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  Speaker 2: like if they do lose a game or a conference
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  Speaker 2: or a bowl game, that they're gonna they're probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: fall out the way because just just due to a
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  Speaker 2: name recognition.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's very very true. And so there's
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  Speaker 1: still teams like South Carolina, Miami, Ole, miss iowill stay.
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  Speaker 1: I say that's the biggest case. You have their ranked
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  Speaker 1: sixteenth right now in the AP and Arizona State's rank twelve.
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  Speaker 1: You could say if they beat Iowa State beats Arizona State,
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  Speaker 1: you could say they flip and they jump into the
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  Speaker 1: top twelve. But do you see any drastic movement. Do
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  Speaker 1: you see anybody collapsing pretty much with these bowl games
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  Speaker 1: here and going out of the top twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Miami. I feel like they've had a they've had
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  Speaker 2: a pretty tough last couple of weeks, and I think
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna see your confidence. Your confidence has to be
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  Speaker 2: a little a little down, and so I think if
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  Speaker 2: they drop another one, they're gonna skyrock just I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna just fall out of the whole thing entirely.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I know for sure. And then all right,
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  Speaker 1: last thing, so it's officially regular season is officially over,
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  Speaker 1: so ball games doesn't go into regular season stats. Who's
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  Speaker 1: your heisman? Is it Ashton Genty or is it Travis Hunter?
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  Speaker 1: Because it really came down to those two right there.
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Gambler really didn't have a chance when yours know,
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  Speaker 1: cam Ward kind of fell off towards the very end.
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  Speaker 1: So who's your heisman out of those two? Because it's tough.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think gency's gonna have I know, the
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  Speaker 2: Bowl games like they're gonna get picked before the national
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  Speaker 2: championship and stuff like that. But Gency does have a
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  Speaker 2: better chance of showing who he is to win another
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  Speaker 2: to put another case, because it's not like the NFL
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  Speaker 2: where it just where it just cancels out, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like of this truth right after nothing after the regular fusion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but this one. You can take an account
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  Speaker 2: their bowl games, and you can take into account. Let's
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  Speaker 2: and GenZ having the advantage. Who's gonna be when he
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  Speaker 2: is going to be in the playoffs, so he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: have that little bit of advantage. But I understand what
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  Speaker 2: Hashington GenZ is doing as like as the star running back,
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  Speaker 2: the guy leading his team, sitting out of certain quarters,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and still dominating. But what Travis Hunter is
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  Speaker 2: doing is I think a whole lot harder.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I can't see. I think Travis
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  Speaker 2: Hunter is the best player in all of football, in
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  Speaker 2: all of college football, Ashton Jitsey is the best running
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  Speaker 2: back in all of college football, Don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 2: But he's not playing both sides of the ball, guarding
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  Speaker 2: the roerle receiver on the other side and being the
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  Speaker 2: role and receiver on on the offensive side, plus playing
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  Speaker 2: special teams, never getting off of the field, having four
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  Speaker 2: interceptions last game, scored three touchdowns on his own, had
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  Speaker 2: ten I believe before that, eleven hundred receiving yards, all
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  Speaker 2: while playing the entire football game. I just don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's a player that makes a bigger impact on his
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  Speaker 2: team then Travis Hunter. I understand Shadear Sanders needs to
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  Speaker 2: get a lot more love when it comes to the
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  Speaker 2: Heisman voting. Also, I think he's kind of fallen off
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  Speaker 2: just due to everything around him, but having that quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: But Travis Hunter, I just don't think. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: really close. I'm not mad at GENC wins. I think
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  Speaker 2: are GENC wins. I'll be happy. I think both deserve
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  Speaker 2: to win. But if you're asking me to pick, I'm
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  Speaker 2: picking the guy that never comes off the field.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know for sure. And then okay, I just
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  Speaker 1: found some stats right here. Travis Hunter's total season ninety
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  Speaker 1: two catches, almost twelve hundred yards, fifteen touchdowns, thirty one tackles,
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  Speaker 1: eleven PPUs, four interceptions, one force.
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  Speaker 2: Fumble, So that people are gonna say he's not leaving
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  Speaker 2: the leading college football and interception Pbu's they're not throwing
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  Speaker 2: his weight, you know, like there's there's just a when
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  Speaker 2: you're a lockdown, your stats are gonna look aren't gonna
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  Speaker 2: look pretty at all, Like I think there was. I
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  Speaker 2: mean in the NFL, I don't like, I hate Teer
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  Speaker 2: McDuffie's never had an interception in his entire career. Durel
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  Speaker 2: Reeves didn't have I believe, like interception like two straight
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  Speaker 2: seasons or something like that. Like there's there's guys that
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  Speaker 2: are like cham Bailey. I believe like he he was
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  Speaker 2: never in the top in like PBUs or because no
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  Speaker 2: one throws their way. And I think that that's the
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  Speaker 2: thing that Travis hunters and is basically being on an
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  Speaker 2: island in the entire game.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, for sure. It's just it's just crazy because when
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  Speaker 1: you look at Ashton Genty's stats to three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twelve carries, almost twenty three hundred rushing yards in twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, no, there's.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely not there's definitely not a wrong answer here in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion. And I saw something. I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: find the stat but it said Ashton gency he leads
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  Speaker 1: a college football and rushing yards and as far as
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  Speaker 1: yards after contact. If you just included his yards after contact,
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  Speaker 1: he'd be second in college football as far as rushing yards.
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  Speaker 1: That's how crazy it is.
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  Speaker 2: So we're looking at the athletic. The athletic there they
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  Speaker 2: all twenty seven of their writers and editors voted. All
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven voted for Travis Hunter first. So yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: there was two first place votes for Ashton gen T
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  Speaker 2: and one for kem Ward.
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  Speaker 1: Tho was one first place vote for kem Ward.
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  Speaker 3: That is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand how Shadeer is not up there, Like
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  Speaker 2: if we're really looking at stats and like County, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Miami's been losing, you know, so it's kind of like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they only.
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  Speaker 1: Have one more loss in Colorado. So and you could
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  Speaker 1: kind of say an easier schedule, you kind of say
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  Speaker 1: easier schedule.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, so yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, well let's go and move on to
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  Speaker 1: NFL football here, and before we start a little bit
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  Speaker 1: NFL football here, since that time of the year, it's
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  Speaker 1: almost playoff time, which this NFL season it's gone by
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  Speaker 1: a pretty damn quick. I'm gonna list you just standings
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  Speaker 1: right here for you, Josh so As of right now.
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  Speaker 1: In the AFC, so Kansas City and Buffalo they clinched
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  Speaker 1: a playoff spot, but why not, it's Kansas City, Buffalo,
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and then the Houston Texans. As far as the
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  Speaker 1: three wild cards, it's the Chargers, Ravens, and Broncos. In
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  Speaker 1: the Hunt, it's a Colts, Dolphins, and Bengals. As far
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  Speaker 1: as in the in the National League, you have Detroit Philly,
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  Speaker 1: then you have Seattle in Atlanta for your two or
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  Speaker 1: your division leaders. The wild card is Minnesota, Green Bay, Washington.
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  Speaker 1: In the Hut right now, it's Tampa, Arizona and the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, with that being said, let's go and
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  Speaker 1: get started with the Monday night football game Cleveland versus Denver,
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  Speaker 1: in which this game it was a shootout the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: They won forty one thirty two.
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  Speaker 2: Any takeaways from this one, Man, you gotta feel for
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Judy coming back into Denver on this one. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: dude had the game of his entire life and still
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  Speaker 2: ended up losing. I mean, I think Jamis Winston's proving
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  Speaker 2: that he is the starting quarterback in the NFL. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: he does make his mistakes, and he did make a
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  Speaker 2: mistake at the end of the game. They ended up losing,
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  Speaker 2: but four hundred and ninety seven and four touchdowns. I know,
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  Speaker 2: with the three interceptions, but dude, you're you're throwing the
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  Speaker 2: rock all over the field and you're getting a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people involved. I think, Elijah, I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: these guys are playing a lot more for Jamis Winston
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  Speaker 2: and they probably should have did this earlier if we're
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  Speaker 2: being completely honest, and maybe who knows where the Browns
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  Speaker 2: would be right now. But as far as the Broncos side,
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  Speaker 2: this defense steps up. This defense is stepped up in
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they were getting torched all game basically, but
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  Speaker 2: when it mattered the most, they stepped up and got
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  Speaker 2: an interception and stilled the game. And then we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: look at Boenicks. Bonicks kind of didn't have the greatest
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  Speaker 2: of games that he's had so up to this point
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  Speaker 2: with the touchdown interception ratio, but Courtland Sutton and Marvin
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  Speaker 2: Mims really stepped up. Marvin Mims is starting to look
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  Speaker 2: like what his potential was last year in this game,
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  Speaker 2: and then Jelim mcgaughlin. They kind of just think, I
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  Speaker 2: think this is the way to go. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: he's the more explosive, more consistent back, and I think
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  Speaker 2: having him with the fourteen carries in eighty four yards
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  Speaker 2: kind of helped the Broncos stay within this one. It
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  Speaker 2: kind of control the game even when Bonicks had an
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  Speaker 2: off night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm gonna get sorted with that last point.
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  Speaker 1: As far as Sean Payton, you don't know what's running
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  Speaker 1: back he's gonna use because one K. One week it's
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  Speaker 1: Devonte Williams, other week it's Tandrekstemn. This week it was
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  Speaker 1: just Jalil mcloffin's turning like you're saying, Yeah, bon Nixy struggled.
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  Speaker 1: Other than he had a couple of good plays, but
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  Speaker 1: the biggest play he had was at ninety three yards
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  Speaker 1: strike to Marvin Mans, which that was just on a
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  Speaker 1: pure rope right there. And I think this as far
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  Speaker 1: as from the brown side, this is just a Jamis
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  Speaker 1: Winston experience. We've known this ever since Tampa Bay. He's
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  Speaker 1: gonna throw for a bunch of yards, bunch of touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: keep you in the game, but he's also gonna cost
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  Speaker 1: you the game. And almost three pick six is by
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos, which is crazy. I've never seen that before.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a stat there, but I
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  Speaker 1: think this is as far as most receiving yards versus
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  Speaker 1: a team or your former team. Jerry Judy, he broke
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  Speaker 1: that by like twenty five yards. I think the other
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  Speaker 1: one was too. But I don't have much else to
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  Speaker 1: say about this because Denver they're a playoff team. Browns,
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  Speaker 1: They're just that team that's playing spoiler right now because
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  Speaker 1: they have nothing really to gain here. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to move to the Sunday night football game
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  Speaker 1: in which it was a San Francisco forty nine Ers
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  Speaker 1: versus the Buffalo Bills, the second snow game of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. They win thirty five to ten.
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  Speaker 2: Any takeaways here, I think this is the beginning of
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: the end of the San Francisco forty nine ers. I
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: mean I said this at the beginning of the season also,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: so like I I I gall that this was this
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: was abound happens. Yeah, I just think McCaffrey's getting injured.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Deebo George, like these guys have to be drained, you know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: like there has to be a point where you play late.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Every single you play deep into the to the to
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: the season. Every season, you're playing in the conference championships,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you're playing in the super Bowl, you're playing in two
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: super Bowls in four years, conference championship every single year.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: But what do you have to show for it? Absolutely nothing,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Like there's nothing to show, there's no super Bowl. And
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: that's got to be draining for a team when you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: get to that, when you get to the to the
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: peak of what you can get to and then just
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: lose you just like it's it. And that hap for
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: that to happen four years in a row, five years
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: in a row, the Niners gotta they gotta be tired.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what we're seeing right now. It
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: just doesn't look like a team that wants to fight anymore.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look like a team that cares. We saw
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: guys letting up on tackles this week. I understand the
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: conditions aren't in their favor in this one, it's in
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Buffalo's favor, but there was times where guys are just
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: letting guys run by them. That like there was that
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: various ward let. I think it was Ray David. It
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: might be tripping he let he just gave up on
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the tackle. It was Ray Davis. He run into the line.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: He just kind of just jobbed to him and like, oh,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you scored. And there was that pitchback with Amari Cooper
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: to to Josh Allen. There's three guys right there, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: like I understand, like you gotta make a play on that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Just the Fortniners look defeated right now. Jordan Mason goes,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey's done for the rest of the season. Jordan
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Mason's on IR for four weeks. They're gonna turn it
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: over to the rookie and the running backside. So it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: it's tough for them. You know, they're they're only getting older,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: they're not getting younger. It's it's time. I think it's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: time to start figuring out certain things with this team
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and if you want to go into a different direction
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: or if you just want to keep going and run
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: it back. But as far as the Bills, they're playing
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: good football. They're playing good football. I mean, I'm not
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: saying I've never said they were playing bad football. I
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: just don't, like, you know, like I mean, I think
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: they are the second best team in the AFC, you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: behind us. They did beat us, but that happens every season,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you know, and I think we still have our things
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: to figure out, which it we'll get into later. But
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen that he didn't do too much in this game.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I think the conditions kind of he played smart in
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: these conditions. I think he's a quarterback built for these
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: type of conditions. Also, you know, you know, the strong arm, bigger,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: bigger running, bigger quarterback, and he's able to do a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: lot of things. Got a receiving touchdown in this one
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: technically because the pitchback, So he kind of broke fantasy
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: football a little bit. James Connor, I mean, James Cook
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: had that big first half. You know, uh he kind
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: of I believe didn't he get hurt in the second
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: time he did or he just stopped getting the ball.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: He just stopping the ball, So I felt like he
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: was hurt. But you know, he he had that big
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: first half, especially that big that big sixty five yard
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: touchdown kind of put them kind that's got to be
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the moralizing it. Yeah, Yeah, he's gotta be demoralizing for
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a defense. And then when you can turn over to
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Ray Davis and him also have a big day, especially
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: in those type of snowy conditions that win the run
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: game is clicking, You're probably gonna win the football game.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And then thank you for reminding
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: about that stat. I was gonna bring up Josh Allen.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: He's the first person to run, pass and catch a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: touchdown in an NFL game ever. And like you're saying
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: last week, two weeks ago, no surprisingly not No, they
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: were they were rushing, they were rushing and receiving and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: he didn't throw one surprisingly which also, yeah, I think
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Taysom Hill he's out for the year. Also, I don't
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: know if that's for sure, but I'll get into that
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in the second. But just two different teams going in
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: two separate ways, Bills and looks like they're on a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: trajectory for maybe a super Bowl run first time in
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a while in the San Francisco forty nine ers. Just
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: these last two games against real teams, against the Green
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers against the Buffalo Bills and not ideal conditions,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and they end up losing. And here's there's one thing
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I have to say, Rock Purdy, he's not on a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: contract here technically, but the following year he's going to
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: be on a contract. Here, I say you let the
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: contract play out. There's no way you end up paying
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: this guy what Dak Prescott is getting, what Joe Burrow, what.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is getting.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to let him go on a one
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: year prove it deal pretty much. Because McCaffrey, it's a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: PCO injury. He's probably not going to be back till
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: late next year. Again, what's even at that. I think
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: there's no point of coming back. Coming back, I say,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you just get fully healthy because look what happened to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: him this year. He end up overcompensating hurting his knee.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So deebo, I don't think he's coming back after this year.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I you he's hurt.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: So.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I know there's a bunch of injuries on this team.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But if your quarterback is that good, if your quarterback
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: is that good and deserves that fifty to sixty million
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: dollar contract, you should be able to overcome those things.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And obviously he can't. So so I don't know. I'm
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: just saying it sounds crazy right now, but San Francisco
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: they're better off. Well, they're not going to try to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: lose these games on purpose, but it'll be better for
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: them if they end up losing the rest of these games,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: getting the higher draft pick and building up a little
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: bit more, maybe you could make your last run next year.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: But all right, well, let's go ah and move on
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to this next game here, which this game it was,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: It was pretty much the most hyped up game of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: this week. It was the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Baltimore
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Ravens in which it's in Baltimore. The Eagles ended up
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: winning twenty four to nineteen. Eagles are now ten and two,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Ravens are now eight and five. Any takeaways from this.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: One, I mean, are you ready to admit something?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ready to admit something.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I was wrong about the Eagles one hundred percent for
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: sure for sure.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I think I think Saquon Barkley is the game changer.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I think I think he right now he's the MVP
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: of the league. I think I think so far this season,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and I think running back starting dependent on a quarterback,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: so he definitely does have a great chance of winning,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: of being the first running back since ap to walk
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: away with MVP. And I think this is the year
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that it happens. I think I think you see the change.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I think you I think we know The Eagles have
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: been a good football team over the last couple of years.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: They've been in the fight, they've been in the playoffs,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: made it to a super Bowl and lost. I had
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to throw that in there, sorry, but the uh uh
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: with the Saquon they look at like a whole different animal.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: They look like a whole different beast. They don't They
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: don't have to rely on Jalen Hurts making complete decisions.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that was the problem with the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: last couple last year where they put a lot on
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: his shoulders and it was way too early for that.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And I don't think he's that type of quarterback where
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: you could just rely upon his arm decision making entirely.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: He's a good quarterback, don't get me wrong. Yet, You're
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: not gonna who you're gonna replace that's better than Jalen
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Hurts on your team. Probably probably no one that's available,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: No one that's available is better than Jalen Hurts, especially
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in this free agency coming up. So yeah, you I
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: think having a running back that can do it all.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: They've had good running backs like DeAndre Swift. They've had
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: good running backs like Miles Sanders when he was playing
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: really good, good football for them. But Sekwon Barkley is
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a whole other level of running back, and I think
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you can see that this team is opening up a
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: lot more a J. Brown. Every time every game he's
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: played this year, they haven't lost. Davonta Smith's had a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: good season this this so far this year. He didn't
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: play in this one. But it's scary because everyone, everyone is,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: it's playing at a high level right now, even Dallas Goder,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: he's playing some good football. He's not gonna light you
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: up on the scoreboard, but on the in the box score.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But what he does on the field, blocking, getting open,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: creating mismatches, allowing other guys to eat. I think this
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: team's fit for a run this year, and I think
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be them in the Lions when it comes
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to it, to the end of the playoffs, because I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: think I think they're heading for a collision. Of course,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: these two teams, and as far as the Ravens, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: love to see it, you know, eight and five, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: just just go further down, play in that divisional round,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: another chance at losing. But they are playing I think
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're I don't think it's a lot
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to take away. I think I think Lamar and Derrick
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Henry they they they have that thing, but this defense
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: is killing him right now. I don't I don't understand
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: how the falloff became such a fall off. I understand
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton is dealing with stuff. Marlin Humphrey, his injuries
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: have definitely caught up to him because he's no longer
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the same cornerback he used to be. I just feel
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: like this team, this defense, has a lot, has a
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: lot that they need to that they need to figure out,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: because right now they're holding back this offense and this team,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I think from doing anything real and special.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll start with the Ravens right here. I think
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: that just it's just another big game where the Ravens
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: they don't end up pointing. And I know you can't
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: blame it all under Lamar Jackson, but when it gets
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to the point where you're not winning any of these
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: big time games, yes, there's coaching, there's coaching, for sure,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: but the quarterback has to find a way to get
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it done. And also one thing, taking away your biggest weapon, yourself,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you being hesitant to run, also costs you the game
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: here too, because there's times where the pocket collapse and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you stayed in the pocket, try to make that extra play. Yes,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that's good for sure, but you have to use your superpower.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: You have to use superpowered within the game, and I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: think he just took that away from himself. And I
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: think the biggest thing why I think the Eagles are
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: now super Bowl threats. I think they're the best team
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in the NFC. Now for sure. I know you're not
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: gonna agree with that, but I think for sure because
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry was damn near unstoppable before coming into this game.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles there front seven, not Week one. Yeah, no,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you're right. But as far as Zach vond and the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Kobe Dean, this linebackering corps that they revamped just in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a year, this is one of the best linebacking corps
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: in the league.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I know.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Kenyon, Mitchell, Cooper, Dejen Cooper Degen and then Reid Blinking
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Ship se or CJ. Gardner, Johnson, Darius Slave. So you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: have you rebuilt this entire back seven in this offseason
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and it's it's paying dividends for sure.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: So even though it Smith's playing good football right now
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: like he was potentially one of the better, but I
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: think his size compared to the rest of the NFL
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of derode him a little bit his
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: rookie season. But so far this season he's he's figuring
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it out with what he can do, you know. So, yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: they're they're a good So it's weird to say they're
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a good young defense, like they're a good they're good
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: for Yeah, they're a good young defense because they kept
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: around the same core forever. But right now they're turning
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a whole new clock, and these guys that they have
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: right now, you know, the next four years, the next
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: three years at least, with this defense is gonna be
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: pretty good. Pretty it's gonna be pretty cool to watch.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, no, for sure. And then Nolan Smith
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: stepping up with Brandon Grant being out for the year,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that Tricep injury that he has, and also Jalen Carter.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have the best box score, but
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: he's getting up there as far as Chris Jones territory,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: as far as wrecking an entire game on a day
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to day basis, he's getting up there slowly.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Definitely, he definitely has the potential to be there, and
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You know why I'm saying the Eagles they're officially contenders
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: because their biggest weakness can also be their biggest strength,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and that's Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts on any given Sunday,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he could be a top five quarterback in the league,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but also he could be a bottom five quarterback in
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the league at the same time. So you taking the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: ball out of Jalen Hurts his hands, stopping that inconsistency
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: from happening, giving it to running back in Saquon, It's
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: gonna win you a bunch of football games. Yeah, by far?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Right now, MVP, because yes, there's Josh Allen, there's Josh
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Allen there. But I think that if he I'll say this,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't break the record, it's gonna go to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, But if he does break the record, it's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: gonna go to Saquon. By far?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Is that total derail? I'm gonn look at the MVP
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: odds right now?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, Victor just.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Kidding Victor woman Yama stats No. And then even DeVonta Smith,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: he didn't even play in this game, so the Eagles
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: are not even at full strength.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Vegas Insider all right now, say Josh Allenquon Barkley, Lamar,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Jared go Patrick Mahomes, that's the top five.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: See I get Lamar, he's up there, but I just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: think I'm put five losses now. The five losses now
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: is beating Mahomes. Mahomes, that's starting to get up there.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yep, No, but all right, but let's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: go to Josh. It's Josh Allen Saquon Barkley's race right now.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that at all. Like I'm not
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: going to make a case for Mahomes or No. One
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that that's the race and Josh Allen right.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Now, Okay, I'll say this because I know the Bills.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: They don't play the Lions this week, but they play
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: them the following week. If Josh Allen goes into Detroit
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and beats the Lions, I don't care how pretty it looks,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: if it's ugly, Josh Allen's winning the MVP after that
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: one because it's the two best teams in the conference.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: What if like has another two hundred yard game and
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: consistently runs one thirty yards, you know, it's like it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the It's kind.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Of because like also the stats do matter, but also
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the games, the last the last few games building up
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to it also do matter. Because I think the one
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that sealed it for Lamar last year was a Christmas
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: game San fran versus Baltimore, and then Lamar had that
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: vintage MVP game. Yep, I think that pretty much sealed it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So I feel like narrative also matters too. But well,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: let's go to move on to this next game. I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: know we're going to talk about some of those other
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: teams soon. So the LA Rams versus the New Orleans Saints,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: in which the Rams they struggled in this first half
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: for sure right here, but then twenty one points in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the second half and won twenty one to fourteen keep
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: their playoff hopes alive. Now they're officially five hundred. Any
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: takeaways from this one, Josh, But.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the standings that at the NFCU West
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's the yah, yeah, the NFC.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: West, Yeah, Seattle seven, dude, those teams are all still
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: right there like it's not it's crazy, and we got
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: five games left of the season, so yeah, it's gonna
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a race. But right now, I just
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, Cooper Cup needs to I don't know what,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: just that this game just was weird for him. I
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: think I think the the Saints really balled out defensively.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: They had a good game plan coming into this one.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: They shut down Pooka nakua if If five for fifty
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: six in the touchdown. Shutting down Pooka Nakula three for
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: seventeen is definitely shutting down Cooper Cup. So it's like
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: they had a good game plan comings this one. They
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: didn't let the rams strengths overwhelm them. That obviously, Karen,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it became the Karen Williams Show, and I think that's
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the I think that's a good thing that the Rams
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: can do. They can switch the alternative to a different
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: play style and rely on upon someone. And even Blake
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Krum had a good day in this one eight for
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: forty two. That's a good solid person coming in and
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: doing doing consistent running. You know, like they were able
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: to control the ground game in this one, and that's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: why the Rams ended up winning. As far as the Saints,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get too much into it. Yeah, you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: it's just the fall for I don't don't know what
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to say about them. You know, it's like they're playing
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: hard football right now. They're playing really they're playing teams
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: tough right now. But it's a little too late for
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: all that to be trying to do that. You're four
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and eight, you know. I just think that there's a
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: lot of things they have to figure out, especially with
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: the team that they have built. I think it's it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: an old team. It's an old team. There's some young
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: pieces there. Don't get me wrong. Breckon's going to come
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: out and talk about all these Brian Bercis and Chris
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Olaves and I mean, who knows if he even plays again,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: We don't know yet, you know. So it's like, but
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: everyone else as the klud Alante everyone, I think that
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: there has to be a move and they have a
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: high sound. Their salary cap is doomed, so it's like
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: in the league. Yeah, they have to figure out certain
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: things because this team right now, I think a lot.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not in the same standard as the San Francisco
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers, because the San Fransco forty nine ers
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: can turn it on like that I think eventually become
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a I just think they're drained right now. But I
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: think it's the same flip side with the Saints on
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the on with their side, because there's no direction. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: think I think they're they're stuck in the middle of
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: two different two different paths that should be taken, and
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: they're just stuck right there trying to figure out which
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: way they're gonna go. And I think until they figure
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that out, I think they're gonna be stuck in the
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: same situation for the next couple of seasons. And that's
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: But the Rams, they're they're still fighting. They're still fighting
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: right now, so we'll just see where they go.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Saints are definition of a of a bad
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: good team, but a good bad team. That's exactly where
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: they are. But again, you already you pretty much touch
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: on every point as far as with the Saints here,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: But with the Rams, I think this is good for
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: them down the stretch if they're gonna make a playoff runt,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: because it shows that your defense can kind of be
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: relied upon because this is a very young defense. You
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: talk about a team that's been revamping their defense, especially
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: after Aaron Donald is gone. But yeah, Jared Vers and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you have Brandon Fist Florida State legends, by the way,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: but they're just wrecking. As far as on this defensive line,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: they're not the Aaron Donald production, but it's a little
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: bit of a tier below because you're not going to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: replace Aaron Donald here. But what they've been able to do.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: And as far as this defense is letting your offense
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: work out all the kinks and so whenever it gets
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: late in the season, the playoff time, your offense will
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: be functioning. Because in this first half they had no
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: points in the first half. So it just shows that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: as far as with the Rams, whenever they have a
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: gut to have it situation, you have a Super Bowl
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: quarterback in Matt Stafford, you have Puga DeMarcus Robinson. He
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: made a big play, so and I think it's gonna
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: be big coming down the stretch Blake Korum as far
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: as what he was able to do in those carries
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it What it also does is keep Karen Williams fresh
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: down the stretch too, because down the stretch last year,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Karen Williams what was again, damn near twenty five thirty
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: touches a game. It will something, it was something crazy
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: like that. So Karen Williams is a little bit more fresher,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: explosive throughout the season. So that's gonna be a good thing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: But let's going to move on to this next team
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: right here, which it was the big show. They're at
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: five hundred now six and six versus the Panthers, which
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: it went to overtime twenty six to twenty three here,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: So any takeaways from this one here, Josh.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: The Buccaneers they need to win also, and I think
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know the Panthers. They're starting. Bryce Song is
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: starting to look like a good quarterback. I think he's
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: starting to play good football. In the last couple of
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the last three weeks, last three weeks since he's come back,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: he's played, He's played very well. He's putting his team
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: in good situations. There's still some things he needs to
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: learn till things he still needs to figure out. But
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: as of right now, I think you can be satisfied
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: with what he's putting out on the field, whether you're
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a fan or or not. You know, and I think
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: that that's good. I think that that sit out needed
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to needed him to regroup. Let's go back to the
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: drawing board, Let's watch some film, because he's he's playing
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: good football. I just want to get credit where credit
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: is due. Adam thin Lind does not suck. So let
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: me tell you all that Adam Thinland does not suck.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: And he has eight catches for nine nine yards in
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. He's continuing to do good things. He was.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: He's been banged up all season, and last year we
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: saw what he could do still at an older age,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and right now he's still producing. And we saw that
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: in this game. And I think that's what gave the
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Buccaneers some fits, is that you came in with a
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: game plan, but the game plan just didn't work out defensively.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Offensively though, I mean, this is what we expect them
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: to be. We expect them to be this team that
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: could score, that can keep up with any team when
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they are at full health. And I think Mike Evans
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: brought that in this one. First game back, eight receptions,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: one hundred or second game back he played last week, right, yeah,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: second game but we didn't talk. Yeah, we didn't talk
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: about anything last week, so I'm trying to remember. But
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans eight recessions, one eighteen a touchdown. He's just
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: doing Mike Evans things, being the number one receiver for
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. They're gonna keep feeding him the ball until
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: until the wills fall off. And I think that's what
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. He's reliant upon on Bucky Irving. Bucky Irving.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Bucky Irving. Twenty five twenty five carries,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: fifty two a touchdown or three receptions thirty three yards.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: He's the number one back White's taking.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Huh, you want me.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Be a fantasy football league. I don't know if you know.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that I start Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I mean I have him. I have him in two
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: other leagues I didn't start. I started in one league
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and the other one I didn't start him, so I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: started Johnson Taylor and Chase Brown. So I mean it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: not that yeah, yeah.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: That's so.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But no Bucky Irving. They found a good one
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: in the first round. It gets confusing watching sometimes because
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: he's wearing number seven. So I'm just taking a look
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: at Leonard Fournette, but it's not. It's Bucky Irving and
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: then Rashard White. I think Rashard White, this is his role.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think where he doesn't have to do too much.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I think where he can come in as the second back.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: And produce. I think he's a good running back, but
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: he's just not a great running back, and I think
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: having someone above him is really gonna let him shine
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a lot more. Eleven carries seventy six yards. He brings
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that good one to two punch. I think that's the
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: trend that teams are going towards right now, is a
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: one two punch in the backfield. Right now, the Buccaneers
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: have found one, and I think it's good for this
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: team moving forward, especially with the way the playoffs are
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: about to pan out there they're fighting right now, so
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and then especially since the Falcons have dropped these last
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: three games. Right now, the Buccaneers I think are going
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to skyrocket to this number one squat.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be harder for the Bucks
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: to climb up in the division, but now it's looking
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: easier and easier. Even though they lost both games to
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the Falcons, they're only one full game back, well two
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: for them to get clear possession of it. But like
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you were saying, thirty nine carries Toner thirty six yards
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers offense, and this isn't their strength right here.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: If they're able to do something like this, it's gonna
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: be really scary because we know Baker he could throw
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the football, and he didn't even have his best game here.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: His interceptions were very questionable. So so Baker Mayfield, I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: damn you are guaranteed he's gonna have it cleaned up.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Bucky Irvin almost two hundred total scrimmage yards here,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: almost on thirty carries. So this dude, he's just, he's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: just I don't know how he felt. I think it
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: was a fourth or fifth doun something like that. He
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: was always an explosive player. It's just his size that
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: was the biggest thing. Obviously, size doesn't matter. Put up
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: all right, let me just move on to the facts.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Put up Bryce Young. I was quick to call Bryce
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Young the bus, and I'll admit it, he has been
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: playing good football. I still want to see this happen.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: One thing that I would like to say is that
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks deserves a lot more burned than Chewba Hubbard.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I know he's coming back, but I think it should
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: damn near be a forty sixty split. As far as Chwobo,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: he still gets a sixty, but by the end of
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the year, it should be a fifty to fifty. I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: think everybody, like you were saying, everybody's trying to go
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to that two running back situation. I think, especially these
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: two teams, they're trying to copy that David Montgomery Jamier
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Gibbs type of formula. Here there's always that power back
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and then there's that explosive back. They're trying to copy that,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and I think these two teams are perfect examples of it.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And Bryce Young I think this is what I want
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to say, because I want to talk about this with
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the Colts too in a second. If you let your
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks actually develop, you let them sit for a little
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: bit and regroup, watch film, they end up being good quarterbacks.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Because teams are too patient or too impatient on quarterbacks nowadays,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: because I don't know, Yeah, yeah, pretty much. But let's
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: go to move on to this next game here, Tennessee
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Titans at the Washington Commanders. Washington wins forty two to
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: nineteen after losing two in a row. Yeah, two in
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: a row. So any takeaways from this.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: One real quick? I think over the last and even
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: though they've like the last three weeks, yeah, Mayoman's turned
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: on a little bit. I will say, like he has
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: played some pretty good football. They've all they haven't turned
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: into anything like positive for the Titans, but yeah, they are,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: they are winning, they are, they are. He is playing
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: some good football, and I think just got to give
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: some credit right there. I think he's starting to figure
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: out a little bit. Also. I mean he's still makes
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: some bonehead decisions, makes some crazy throws. But I think
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna get with with what how he
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: does play, is he's gonna try and making a big play,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: make some mistakes, but he is playing good football right now.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I just want to give credit. But we already knew
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: this was gonna happen. Brian Robinson twelve plus carries, sixteen carries,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: one oh three, one touchdown. Coming back getting a little
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: bit more healthier, you know. I think he's still playing
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: through injury right now. With that, with that ankle, it
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: definitely looks like it's bothering him. I will say, like,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: he's not he's, he's he's what's the word. I'm favoring
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: favoring him for sure right now. So I just think
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: that's something to monitor. I think the Commanders they needed
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: this win bad. They needed this win really bad because
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: if they lose this when they dropped to seven to six.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Teams are coming back. Falcons are still in the mix,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Buccaneers still in the mix, Cardinals Rams, you know who's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: the other team freaking even though the Niners are still
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: in the mix. So you lose this game, it's gonna
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: make it a lot, a lot more tougher. Going down
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the stretch and improving to eight and five definitely puts
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: them a little bit at more ahead. So they needed
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: this win. And I think having Brian Robinson back and
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: emergence of Chris Rodriguez in this game. I know he's
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: always he's been around for a little bit, but having
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: him also having a big game in this one. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: think the Austin Eckler injury's probably gonna look like a
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: you don't want to see no one get injured, but
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: it's probably gonna look like a blessing in this guy
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: is having a more of explosive player behind Brian Robinson's
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: gonna add another element to his run game. And and
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the scary terry you know, zach Ertzt continuing to be
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: productive for Jaden Daniels, and I think the Commanders they
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: that this is a good game to get back on
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: track for them.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I don't have much else to say.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: You pretty much hit every every point here, But I'm
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: gonna go to move to this next game here, Arizona
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Minnesota Vikings right here, and with the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Vikings score a late touchdown to win this game twenty
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: three to twenty two. Vikings are now ten and two,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: only one game behind the Lions. Would they control their
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: own destiny. They play the Lions. I don't know when,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: but they play them soon. Cardinals are now five hundred
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: their second Yeah, they're second in the NFC West right
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: now because they have the tiebreaker over the Rams. No no, no, no, no,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: they actually don't. They're actually tied with the Rams right now.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: So Rams and Cardinals they are tied. Any takeaways from.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: This one, I think I think we can see what
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals can be and we can see what the
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Vikings can be. Also, you know, I think I think
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: both teams are very good offensively. They're both gonna get
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: the job done. Justin Jefferson seven ninety nine. Sam Darnold,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: he's starting to look better the last two weeks after
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: after having a rough couple of weeks before that. You know,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: kind of costing his team and not costing his team's losses,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: but definitely putting them in bad situations. Yeah, but I
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: just think the run game has to get going for
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. I think I think this is where the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: age of Aaron Jones starting to show. I don't know
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: if they're holding them back because oh, like he is older.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Let's wait till the playoffs. He is dealing with certain
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: things because in the playoffs he's gonna turn I almost
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: guarantee he is gonna play big, great football in the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But I still think they're trying to
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: figure out how to get t J. Hawkinson involved again,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, the injury was was rough. He
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I think he's probably figuring out himself as well. But
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: as far as I think they that run game has
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: to get going for the Vikings, I don't think they're
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a contender. They're not gonna be within these top teams
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: if the running game isn't going because what the other
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: two teams can do that they're probably gonna compete. Three
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: teams Packers, Packers, Packers, Lions, Segals all have run game.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: They all can run the ball no matter what Josh Jacobs.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Sure it's in volume, but he's running the ball. He's
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: he's getting to where where he needs to get to,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: and that's the end zone he's getting. He's getting the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: first downs, he's getting the five yards. We already we
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: don't need to talk about the Lions run game and Saquon,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: so they for them to keep up with these teams,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: they got to figure it out on that on that
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: side of the ball. And I think it has to
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: happen because before the playoffs starts, because if they don't
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: have a figured out, then I think there's gonna be
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: some problems for the Vikings to come playoff time. As
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: far as his Cardinals side, James Connor gets an extension
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: after this game. Kyler Murray, he played good, but he
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: could play a lot better, I think, I think, especially
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the weapons he has around him. Trey McBride had a
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: big one. Marvin Harrison. I mean, he's still trying to
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: figure it out. I think. I just don't.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I just don't.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a connection yet. I don't think
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: there's a connection between him and Kyler Murray. It's gonna
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: take some time. I just think what the way he
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: plays as compared to the Neighbors, Marvin Harrison's more of
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the I want to say, you just kind of have
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: to throw it up and let him make something happen.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: As far as movie and Neighbors finds a way to
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: get open. When Haber's always he knows how to find
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the zone, He's a lot faster. I think Marvin Harrison
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: is gonna have to be a comfortability process with him
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and Kyler Murray rather than it's kind of had to
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: be like more like a DeAndre Hopkins situation where you
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: have to just trust him, you know, like that we're
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: in that situation. Michael Wilson has a good win. I
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: just think this was a good game for both teams
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: to show where they are at. But the Cardinals do
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: have to start winning some football games kind of because
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: it's them when the it's them them and the them
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: in the rams right now, and whoever creates that separation,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: it's it's really close right now.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it is really really close. And one thing,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: so yeah, Sam Darnold, he definitely is playing better football.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna touch that point again. But one thing
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I just want to take away from right here is
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: as far as personally me, this is where analytics it's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of shaky because the Cardinals, they
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: were up three with three minutes ago. You were at
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the four yard line and it was fourth down. So
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: if you miss that, if you miss the touchdown, you're
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: up three. That means the Vikings are more comfortable with
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: taking a field goal, so you can tie it up,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: you go into overtime, maybe a last second drive, but
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: if you score the touchdown, then you're gonna be up
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: ten points and that game is pretty much wrapped with
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: three minutes left to go unless something crazy happens. So
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I just want to say that as far as analytics,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: that's where it's kind of a little bit confusing as
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: far as making the right thing because I think the
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: analytics said take the field goal here, so you basically
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: cost your shelf to cost yourself the game pretty much here.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: So but as far as with the Cardinals here, they
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: are trying to be a running football team. Thirty one
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: carries one hundred fifty yards. They're trying to be but
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's still best whenever you have Kyler Murray
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: throw the ball. He threw the ball forty five times,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: so it definitely was a lot, but I think it's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: just better if you put the ball on Kyler Murray's
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: hands and just trust his weapons. And I agree as
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: far as with Marv right here, it's just little stuff.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: As far as when Cott is expecting him to turn
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: in or turn out Marph, he does the other thing.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: They'll get that fixed, I think by next year for sure.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: And also a stat here from Trey McBride. Trey McBride,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: he has seventy three catches and no touchdowns and he
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: might be the first NFL player in history to have
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: one hundred catches and no touchdowns in a season. At
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: this pace, No, he end up playing like a touchdown
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: or two.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there was a season he didn't score a
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: single touchdown. But I don't think he got two hundred catches.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: He might have got like underneath one hundred catches.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I think he was close, and I think he was Yeah, No,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I think he was close. But yeah, as far as
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the vikings here, again, I know Sam Donald is playing
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: good football. I just don't know how much to believe because, yeah,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: compared to everybody else, Compared to everybody else, Jared Golf's
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: a better quarterback. Jaylor Hurts. He is a better quarterback.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Jordan Loves a better quarterback. You could even say Baker's
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: a better quarterback. I wouldn't say Kirk Cousins right now.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Kirk Cousins.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Right now, right now. Yeah, Stafford's a better quarterback.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt Stafford, he's a better quarterback. Cooper. No, I'm
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go that
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: far right there now. But let's go to move to
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: this next game right here, the Houston Texans versus the
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, and what's the Houston Texans barely won twenty
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: three to twenty right here, So any takeaways from this one, I.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Just, first of all, prayers are for Trevor Lawrence. Dude,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: got rock, you know, just kinda keep moving after that.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, he got absolutely destroyed by a shy here.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That was crazy.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: But as far as the Texans, there's I kind of
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: feel the same way about the Vikings as I do
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: for the Texans right now. It's they're not they don't
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: scare you. There's just something about this team where there's
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: two sophomore slump. I think it's starting to show a
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: little bit, you know, their teams are starting to figure
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: out a little bit more how to play them. And
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I understand this is a divisional game. We always talk
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: about how divisional games are always tough, but this is
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: a team you should be destroying. This is a Jaguars team.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Even when Mac Jones comes onto the field, you should
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: be able to kind of put them away and move
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: on to the next week and look onto your next team.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: But in this one, it just never happened for them.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I think they they and it's weird because individuals had
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: big games like Nico Joe Mixon, but if you look
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: at the entirety of the team, it was rough. It
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: was rough, ye. And you can't be doing this against
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a team like the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. That's that's what I put down
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: right here. CJ has a sophomore slump, and it's just
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: some throws that he wasn't missing last year that he's
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: missing this year. And he has more weapons this year
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: than he did last year by far. And then the
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: defense is quote unquote better, but it looks like they
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: kind of went a step down. But I think this
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: is just part of the process as far as CJ. Stroud,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: because teams are gonna figure out. It's very rare they
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: have a home situation where they're gonna be even more
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: dominant as the years go on. Usually they start to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: figure it out or have some tape on you. So
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I think this is part of it. I'm not gonna
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: say he's definitely not in that top five quarterback. He's
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: still like on the fringe, like top ten, like the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: late top ten or maybe top twelve around that area.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, they cannot be taken serious until other
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I know they play the Ravens down the stretch, so
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: we'll see if they could end up living up, living
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: up to or maybe fixing some things down the road.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, until further notice, I can't trust him at all.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: But as far as this next game right here, the
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks versus the New York Jets Seahawks, they win
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty one here and with Seattle they're
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: now on a three game win streak and now the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: leaders in the NFC West. So anything to take away here, No.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I just think the emergence of Jackson Jackson Smith and
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Jayba is making is it helping this team out a lot.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I think you drafted them to be a number one receiver.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I think people are gonna be mad at that, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: there's a reason he was drafted in the top twenty
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: in the first round, you know, to be to be
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: this guy for this team. And I think him starting
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: to get a little bit more involved. I don'd to
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: say the targets aren't matching DK Metcalf, but the way
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that they're using Jacksonmith and Jigua to his JSN, to
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: his strengths, it's really it's really helping them out. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: they are they are trying to run the ball. They
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: are trying to get the ball Togainnith Walker sixteen carries
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: or nine yards, but you got to get Zach Scharbonay
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: involved also. I think I think there has to be
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: that point. I understand KEA Walker is the better running back,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Keith Walker is your number one running back, but take
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: some pressure off and give it to Zach Scharbonny because
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: every time he touched the ball in this one he
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: averaged he averaged seven yards per carry and it's only
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: four times. And I just think you need that one
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: two punch to get to help this team out especially
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: do you know Smith out a lot more. I think
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: this offense will go to a whole other level. But
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: until that happens, you know where they're just stuck here.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: And we talked about we talked about how good this
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: defense has played. With Byron Murphy. You know, he's also
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: in that same conversation. I think of where the potential.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's he's not as good as
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Dalen Carter, I will say that, but he can be
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: right below. Yeah, yeah, he's like a tier below. It
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: could be like Aaron Donald Chris Jones situation. I think
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I think that's where it could be where And obviously
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: those guys are Hall of famers. Those guys have already
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: proven themselves. But yeah, but just the comparison and what
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: where the tiers are gonna be. I think it's gonna
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: be Daalen Carter and Byron Murphy and for for a
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: couple of years to come. And I think I think
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: that's good for this defense right now. But as far
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: as the Jets, just same thing every week. Disappointmenteah, you
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: know it's yeah, yeah, I don't I don't want to
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: go too much into it. Just just disappointment. Everywhere, and
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Davonte Adams made a big oldeal just to get traded
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: to a team that's going that's not even gonna make
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: a playoffs, So.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: That has one more win than the Raiders, right, But yeah,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about the Jets pretty much.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: That on you take away pretty much every point. I'm
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: just gonna list you this right here. So as far
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: as with the Mike McDonald defense, fourteen points allowed on defense,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: one pick six, a force fumble, one hundred and sixty
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: nine passing yards allowed, eighty nine total rushing yards allowed
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: in a shutout in the second half. So that just
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: showing Mike McDonald he's finally finding his feet as far
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: as being that defensive guy in Seattle, And hey, you're
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: number one in the NFC West right now, so you
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: can you control your own destiny. And you play Arizona
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: next week. So if you win next week, you pretty
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: much have the NFC West on lock because or unless
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: you have a drastic collapse, which I can't really see
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: happening here. But as far as a team that's happened
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: a drastic collapse right here, that Atlanta Falcons they played
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: up against the LA Chargers, charges they won seventeen to
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: thirteen Falcons. After being six and three, they have lost
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: three in a row, featuring four Kirk Cousins interceptions. Here
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: any takeaways from this one.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Ah man, I don't know what happened. They were playing
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: really good at the beginning of the season. They've dropped
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: all these games these last month, you know, So it's like, yeah,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: they're just shooting themselves on the foot and it's Kirk Cousins.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's a Kirk Cousins issue. I think the
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: guys are still doing their job. We see them produce.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: We've seen Jake Lennon produce. Kyle Pitch was getting involved
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: earlier in the season, no longer involved. It's it's kind
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: of I don't know how to answer Darniel MOUONEI was
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: definitely at a whole, whole nother player to start this season.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: It's just I think it comes down to quarterback play.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I think it comes down to coaching. I think it
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: comes down to decision making, and I just think there
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: has to be something that gets figured out because they're
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: gonna be left behind and out the playoffs. Because right
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: now they are out the playoffs. I think or they
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: might be yeah, they are. They are out the playoffs
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: right now. So, uh, you kind of played your way
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: into the situation when in reality we all thought y'all
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: were gonna take that next step forward. And I don't
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: think it's a defense problem either, because his defense is
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: holding teams down to and they're they're just and Kirk
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Cousins keeps giving the ball back to the to the offense.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to continue to play at a
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: high level when you're constantly on the field and Bijon.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: It's also weird too because Bejon is having his better
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: games in these in these losses. Yeah, so his last
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: four games, he's he's really stepped up quite a bit.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: And it's just not it's not going anywhere for this team.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: And I think they have to look at themselves and
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: whether do they want to keep riding with Kirk Cousins,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: which is crazy to say, or do you want to
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: turn it over to Michael Pennocks and maybe see what
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: you can do. You know what I mean. Michael Penix
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: isn't getting any younger himself, so let's just say that. Yeah,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: so right, yeah, so you gotta we gotta see maybe
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: one more week and see if this continues because is
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: right now it's not looking pretty for the for the Falcons,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: but you know what it is looking pretty the Chargers.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: The Chargers are looking like the good football team sucks JK. Dobbins.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Not season enduring, not season ending, guys, not season ending.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: So but that's that's.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you jinx it, but.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: I mean it happened.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: It was bound to happen. I mean it's not let's
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: not let's not say that consistency is in the thing.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: You know, you know JK. Dobbins. If one thing is
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: JK Dobbins is consistent, let's just say that. So, but
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: it's not season ending. He's out four weeks, you know,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: it's not too It's serious, but not too serious. So
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: that that's a good sign for him. He'll be back
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: around playoff time if they continue to win football games,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: which I think they will. You know, they we have
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: a tough game with them coming up, so it's gonna
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: be a little scary, but you know, they're they're frightening
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: ways to win, I think, not not necessarily lighting up
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: the scoreboard justin Herbert didn't do that in this game,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: but Lad McConkie did light at the scoreboard, and I
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: think that was probably a difference maker. Nine receptions, one
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen yards, looking like a number one receiver,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: looking like a guy that that they they hit on it.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: It was a great draft pick by them. They're playing
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: good football defensively. They all know their roles. I don't
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: think anyone's necessarily I mean, Derwin James is always gonna
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: do Derwin James things, but no one's necessarily. No one's
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: necessarily standing out for the for the Chargers defense. But
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: they're all doing their jobs.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And then okay, let me list
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: this quick stat So, first off, I think the Falcons
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: they outplayed the Chargers except Kirk Cousins here, Justin Herbert.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing difference here was justin Herbert didn't turn
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: over the ball, made smart decisions. Kirk Cousins did it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: So let me read you some stats about the Falcons defense.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty seven total yards allowed, no touchdounds allowed,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: five sacks, five tackle for losses, six PPUs, eight quarterbacks hits,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: one forced fumble in a fumble recovery, and they still lost.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And they still lost. That is crazy. So I just
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: think that the Falcons defense, they're finally up to a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: level where Rahie Morris has him playing damn good football.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: But this offense is just not putting two and two together.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: They're just getting worse and worse and worse. You know
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: one thing that I noticed that sounds a little bit weird.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: After teams other than Philly, other than Philly this year,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: teams after they play the Cowboys they start losing. They
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: start losing. It's because they play their super Bowl. That's
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: pretty much what it is. The Falcons after beating the Cowboys,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: they've lost three straight. The Commanders, they've lost, the San
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Francisco San Francisco forty nine Ers, they've lost New Orleans Saints,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: they've lost I keep going with this. The Ravens, they're
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: not getting any better. So see what I'm saying here.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: But I just think that the Chargers, Yes, Lad McConkey,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: he is playing like a number one receiver right now.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: And I know we didn't talk about it last week
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: as far as against the Ravens, but I just think
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: against these lesser tier teams, they look like this great
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: team that's fighting in any ways to win. But when
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: they go up against the Kansas City, the Baltimore, the Buffalo.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's jo Quinton Johnson did drop some
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: pretty three big passes in this in last week, So
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: who knows, who knows?
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: If I don't, I don't know.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: If I don't think it changes a lot, but it
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: does change something if he makes those grabs.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I just think that they just
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: don't have that talent yet to compete with them yet
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: not top tier teams. I still think.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I hope against that, but not yet.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: You know, at the rate, at the rate they're going
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: within a year, within a year they turn or Jim Harball,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Jim or john Yeah, Jim Harball, he he pretty much
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: turned this team around pretty much.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: But I pray on their downfall, I will say that well.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Talking about another team he played on the downfall for
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: let's go and talk about this team, the Cincinnati Bengals,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: who are now four and eight win up against the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers forty four to thirty eight was a final
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: score eighty two total points in this game right here,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Steelers are now nine to three official league or in
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the driver's seat as far as for the AFC North,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Bengals have a tough time of making the playoffs or
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: have a low possibility to make the playoffs. Here, Josh,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: go ahead yours.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I just love seeing the Bengals play great offensive football
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: against a really good defense, you know, just feeling like
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do something and then not doing shit. You know.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I just love the Bengals. You know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: losing football games four and eight looks amazing. While we're
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: sitting eleven to one a top of the AFC, just
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: high and mighty with our two back backs Bowls and
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: the and the Bengals are just over here riding off
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: a win from twenty to twenty. So it's twenty twenty one.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, it just happens, just happens great,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: you know. I just I just love football. I love football.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I love when the Bengals lose football also. So that's
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: that's all I wanted to say.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: But it is.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: It is great for fantasy football. It is great that
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: they lose football games but still produce in fantasy football.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Let's just say that. You know, Joe Burrow, thank you.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I have you on my on one of my fantasy teams.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, I have you on another. So thank y'all
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: for doing great things for me and just as a whole.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: You know so, y'all just suck at football, you know so.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: It's like defensively, y'all just suck, you know so. But
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: a team that doesn't suck is the Pittsburgh Steelers. Listen,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: they and I think this is a good win for them.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: They're able to keep up offensively with the Cincinnati Bengals.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson has a big day, George Pickens makes them
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: make some good makes a great grab along the sideline,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: a great throw by Russell Wilson. But I think the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I think the emergence patt fire move had a good one.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: But these running backs, these running backs are definitely the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: game changer. I feel, you know, Russ through over four
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: hundred yards, yes, but Naji sixteen to seventy five, a touchdown,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren four catches, fifty five yards, Cordell Patterson got
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: involved a little bit in this one. So they know
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: what to do offensively right now. I think they they're
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: finding their strengths and playing towards them. And I think
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: keeping up with a high powered offense like this like
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: the Bengals, the Steelers are are making are making some
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: moves to put them into another into another tier of
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: teams in the AFC.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And I think that the Cincinnati
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Bengals they're gonna score on anybody. I think you could
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: pretty much mark it off that they're gonna score twenty four,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: twenty seven points, at least twenty four, at least twenty four,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: because then they scored. Did they score twenty four or
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: twenty five?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: It's a chief something is I just know that we're
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: in the eight section, you know, eight losses that they have, so.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: No good.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: So let me read you this right here. The Steelers
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: are averaging twenty three points per game. I'm rounding up here.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: They had twenty seven points in the first half. This
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: should say everything about the Cincinnati Bengals defense right here.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: And I know there was a couple of turnovers by
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow here, but come on, defense, you have to
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: make at least can you make two stops in the game.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Can you at least make two to three stops in
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: the game. They cannot do that. And I think I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: know I brought it up, but this is what happens
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: when you pay the top five most As far as
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: for your offense, and then bottom five is for your defense.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get these exact results here, and the Bengals
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: have to play perfect football and they damn near are
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: playing perfect football on offense, and they're still losing these
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: games because you go back to Kansas City the Ravens
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: twice and then even this game. So I'm not saying
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: you can flip their record. They're eight and four, but
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: there's just so many of these games where they're right
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: there and they just end up losing. But as far
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: as with the Steelers right here, I think it's just
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: shown week after week after week. Mike Tomlin he made
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the right decision to keep Russell Wilson in there, or
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: put Russell Wilson in over justin Fields because he has
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: this kind of upside. So I think that you need
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: this game for the Steelers because your defense isn't always
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: going to perform. So this is good for the Steelers.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying again. I know I said they're contenders,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: but I think they're that bottom tier contender. We'll see
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: against Kansas City. That's a game that I'm looking at.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: That's a game that I'm just circling.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, Christmas Day.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is Christmas Day. Oh no, but it's
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: on Netflix.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: We lost last Christmas so I'm sorry.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but all right, let's go to.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Movie terrible loss too.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Who was it two again?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: It was to the Raiders?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Oh the Raiders?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: No, but all right, let's go to move on to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: this last Sunday game right here, the New England Patriots
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: versus the Indianapolis Colts right here, in which the Colts
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: won twenty five to twenty four, going for two with
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I think ten seconds left to go, ended up winning.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Any takeaways from this one, I.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Just think, uh, not really much. I think Anthony Richardson
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: kind of he didn't have his the last kind of
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: games he's had the last couple of weeks throwing the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: ball wise, but running he does have this where it's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: able when it does break down out when the pass
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: isn't necessarily at the highest level, he can't run the football.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Nine carries forty eight yards a touchdown. You know, you get
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. Taylor involved in this one. Twenty five carries
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: ninety six one receiving touchdown, so they definitely knew where
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: they they went to their strength, which is running the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: football in this one. I mean when the past game
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't going. The Patriots have these games where their defense
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: does play like what they who they what their identity is,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: and that is a defensive team. It's just hard. You know,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: they're still learning how to figure out with the new regime.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Drake May. I think this is a good game from him.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Not the best, but a good game from a rookie.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Vermondra Stevenson gets back on track a little bit in
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: this one with the rushing the ball. Wise, you know,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: he's he struggled with the constitutency on his averages, but
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: this week averaging four yards per carry is a good sign.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: It was a good game. I just don't really care.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I mean I care much for it. Both teams are
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: kind of just like, no, we're not worried where they're
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: gonna be at come playoff time. Patriots are really trying
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: to see where they're how much they can grow Drake
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: May into there's good quarterback. In the same for the Colts,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: how much they can grow Anthony Richardson into being a
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: good quarterback.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, okay, so I'm gonna just say one thing,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: so again, I'm I'm dying on this, Anthony Richardson training
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: all I'm just saying, ever since he came back, two
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: out of three of his games.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Have been game winning.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Hey, he keeps playing, he keeps
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: playing better and better, and okay, I think there's almost
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: a guaranteed, almost as far as if you were a
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: betting man. First thing is Jeremy Sohan over six rebounds,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Kobe White over one and a half, three.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Scottie Barnes over twenty seven and a half points plus rebounds.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Damn, that's that's very every game. That's specific right there.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And also two fucking Colts receivers dropping open touchdowns. That's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: almost a first year every single week. I don't know
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I could count. I count at least like six seven
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: times throughout the year where a Colts receiver has dropped
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a touchdown and it could end up changing the game.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: So Anthony Richardson, his stats should look out lot better here.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: But it's just these Colds receivers dropping touchdowns and they
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: still have a shot full of the playoffs. They do
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: play the Broncos after the bye week, so they kind
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: of do control their own destiny here. So we'll see
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: how that looks. But all right, let's go in and
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: talk about it.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: If only I was a betting man, if only I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: was a betting.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Man, if only Josh, But all right, let's go to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: A good betting man. Dog shit five for six, three
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: for four, four for five, two for three, seven for eight,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Like fucking.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's so funny.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Give me great. I'm really the greatest better of all time.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I'm the greatest parlay picker of all time. I'm just
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: gonna say that.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm But do I win any money? Fuck?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: No, I don't win ship. I don't win no money
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: at all. I win other people money. I'll say that
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: I win other people money. But do I win myself money.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I don't win any money. No money in my pucket
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: from the people.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's so funny that I don't go two
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: weeks without betting, and I just see all these bets
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: throughout the week. You're just betting just five for six, six,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: six or seven. And I finally bet on Sunday, and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I went right away, and I did research.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: I go dig deep, guys, guys, I dig deep. I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: lower lines, I bring I brought John Morant from twenty
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: four and a half points to fourteen and a half.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: I guaranteed that it was gonna hit. I brought. I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: brought Who did I bring down? I brought down. I
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: brought down Austin Reeves from three and a half three
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: pointers down to one and a half. I brought like
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I'm bringing like, I like, I keep some of them same.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: I keep some of them same. You know, Jason Jatham
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: can remain the same little bit. Yeah, you know Anthony Edwards,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: I brought his line down on twenty four and a
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: half didn't hit. What the shit? Dude? Like, come on
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: and then? And I have a rule. I have a rule, guys.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: I don't bet on a person unless they do it.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Let's say they played twenty games so far this season,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: they have most teams, they don't they don't do it
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: thirteen out of twenty times or more. I'm not betting
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: on it. I'm not betting on it, you know. And
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I just happen to get that bullshit where they get
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: freaking like there that one day where they don't do it,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, and it's kind of annoying already.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: But am I gonna keep showing up? You know? And
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: in my life when I've kept showing up. When in
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: my life, when I've kept showing up, guys, it's panned out.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: It's panned out in some good ways.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: We can talk about this later on another on another podcast,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe. But when you keep showing up, when
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: it when it keeps, when you keep showing up, bro,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: it's gonna hit eventually. That's all I'm saying. I'm gonna
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: be a millionaire off this stuff one day. It was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: just because I'm gonna keep showing up. But right now
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I'm losing at least two hundred a week.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: I'll say that, what if y'all want to follow my picks,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: If y'all want to follow my picks, just let y'all
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: know percent of the time I'm right.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Percent of the time I'm right that you just gotta
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: pick which ones. Yeah, I just gotta pick which ones.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, for sure. But all right, well let's
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: go and talk about your team. Actually right here, the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders and Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs they win
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen off the alleged false star illegal shift. Whichever
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: one it was, whichever one it was, whichever one they changed,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: They changed into a legal shift, even though the play
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: is supposed to be stopped after illegal shift. But anyways,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: don't matter that Chiefs. They go to eleven, one, six
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: and zero at home right now, Raiders two and ten
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: looking for that number one overall draft pick flows.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Yours, winners win. What do you want me to say?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: What do you want me to say? Like it just
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: happens to fall in your favor all the time.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: You know, it's you.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Know, everyone's gonna hate. You know, we're not this team,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: We're not that team. Reinforcements are coming. I'm just gonna
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: say it again. Reinforcements are coming. You know. It just
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't matter to me what anyone thinks they
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: could pick the Bills. I picked the Bills. They're nine
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: times out of ten. That one time they do win,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: it's in the regular season. You know what, the time
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: we do win, would it matters the most? So I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: don't really care about anything. I don't really have any
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: stats to give you.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: I just give you.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: DJ Humphries is coming. You know, I don't think it
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: could get any worse than wan you morees, So I'm
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say that. And because it's pretty bad.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: It's pretty bad right now.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: It's pretty bad.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Right now, Kingsley, I'm cutting up some slack or rookie
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: still trying to develop, still trying to get into the thing.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: He hasn't really played. They had to move Joe Toney
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: out to left tackle this week for a little bit.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: They'll just say that's how bad it got. That's how
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: bad it got. So if DJ Humphrey is a pro bowler,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: big contract before he towards a cl if he doesn't
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: show up and play better than one, you morees and
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, then I don't. Then we
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: have some problems. Then then I'll then I'll start saying,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: you know, and I think, I think dude Mahomes is
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: getting pressured like crazy right now overly the last five
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: weeks from the from the tackles interior best in tier
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: in the entire NFL. But we're looking at left tackle
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: right to it's a problem, you know, And you know,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: we look at this game. We look at this game. Sure,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs only scored one touchdown offensively, but when you
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: watch these games, they should be scoring at least thirty
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: of a game, forty a game, and and I'm not
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not over exaggerating because I'm a Chiefs fan. If
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: you go back and watch these football games versus the Bills,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: versus the Panthers, versus every team we played. If you
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: go back and look every single time something good happens,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: you know what happens. The next play was flagged by
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Jowan Taylor or a pressure from freaking Jania Moore's.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Dude, so it' it's it's.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: The clock or in Exavier Worthy not getting his damn
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: feed in. Let's just say that. So so you know,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: there there's times where there's offense, they can be great,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: and I do I guarantee you we are not at
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: the fullest strength could possibly. We've seen some positive things.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Noah Gray is starting to get a lot of the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: looks that Travis Kelce gets and it's becoming a good
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: one to two punch. DeAndre Hopkins is starting to figure
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: it out a lot more with Patrick Mahomes. He's trusting him.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco, I had had a There's there's the thing
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: that Isaiya Pacheco can do that Kareem Hunt can't do,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: and that's rip off big runs, and we saw it
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: in this one. With that big thirty four yarder. Isay
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Pacheco's gonna start getting more involved over the next couple
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: of weeks and receiving wise, he was starting to do
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: a lot more coming into this season, and then Hollywood's coming.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Let's just say that, Hollywood Brown, it will be here
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: by playoff time, and it's gonna open up a lot
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: more for this offense and this defense. That's where this
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: is where the problem is starting to become a problem.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sure teams aren't scoring, which so surprising to me.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's still so surprising that teams are not scoring,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: but these dbs are hurting us. I think that what's
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: what's saving us right now is Trim mcduffy is locked down.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he's I mean, he's getting targeted more now
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: because you know, he's having to do a lot more
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: over his last couple of weeks. But Chris Jones, George Carlafters,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Charles Manhue, Joshua Hus they're getting the job done when
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: it comes to pressure in the quarterback. I mean, Josh
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Allen and Lamar Jackson gave us fits because they can
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: run the football. But when we play regularquarterbacks like an
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell and you bring pressure and George Calaptus is
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: getting there making big, big plays. This defensive line is
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: stepping up for us in a big way when it
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: matters the most. And the linebackers and you know, when
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: it comes to stopping the run, I mean this is
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: the first week where the run was not stopped, let
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: me say that. And the runners not stopped this week.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: And it just happens when you when you play certain guys.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not worried we're gonna be in
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: the super Bowl when when the season's over.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: All, I'm saying I'm not talking about the Raiders right here.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just talk about strictly the Chiefs. So I'm
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: gonna say this secondary outside of McDuffie and the tackles
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: could end up being the downfall.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Of No I agree, I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: That's the one spot where it's like, okay, there is
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: a real weakness there, and it could something against the
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: great great teams because obviously against the Raiders and other teams,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: good teams the Chiefs wyill take advantage of that, the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: talent advantage, but against the teams who have the same
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: level of talent, almost the same level of quarterback play.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: It it's gonna be close. And honestly, I can't say
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: nothing about the Chiefs really. I'm just waiting for the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: big game versus the Steelers late in the year where
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: they're possibly fighting for seeding still because the Chiefs at
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: this point it looks like they're gonna have to damn
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: near win out in order to get that one seed
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: over the Buffalo Bills at this point. But I think
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: that game and then come playoff time, that's what we'll
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: really see. I'm not worried about Mahomes. I'm not worried
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: about the offense in general. Honestly, I think that they
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: could overcome that tackles issue. But I think just as
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: far as this secondary, they can be beat. They can
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: definitely be beat, be beat. So we'll see. All I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: could say is just let's wait and see. That's all
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I could say. But all right, let's go ah and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: move on to this next one. Miami Dolphins Green Bay
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Packers Thursday Night Football, thirty to seventeen final score. That's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: another game where the Miami Dolphins they don't win in
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the cold. And also one more thing, Mike McDonald McDaniel's
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: record versus playoff teams ever since he's become a head
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: coach three and fourteen, So damn yeah, all right, good.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: All right, Well new arm two couldn't get it done
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: in the cold, so let's just keep it moving.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, he put up a bunch of points from you
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: in fantasy football outside of you that.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, when you can dump it off to these
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: when you can dump it off and they can run,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: you know, but when it comes to making big plays,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: that dude can't do it himself in the colt. It's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: just it's weird, you know, weak arms, just it just
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: happens that way. You know, Jordan Love was definitely built
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: for that type of situation. Josh, Yeah, you know, so.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: I think the stats are gonna look definitely into his
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: favor for sure, But you know, they're just they're just
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: something that can't get done with the Dolphins this year.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: And it's a little weird because we expect them to
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: be the high powered offense that puts up a lot
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: of points no matter what. But this run game that
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: was clicking last year, it's not clicking the exact same
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: that it was. Davon Chien look look human in this one. Raheemoster,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: it's only getting older. He's definitely looking older in this one.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's hard, I think, for them to figure
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: out what they're true identity is because what they've what
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: they've been accustomed to doing in the last two seasons
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: just isn't happening for them. As far as the Packer's side,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: they're definitely I believe in that. I think they're in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: the Stillers territory when it comes to being a contender.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: On the on the other side, I think they they
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: definitely fear them. You definitely know that they can they
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: can keep up with you, they can defensively, they can
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: do what they need to do, but they don't scare
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: you completely entirely like a Buffalo, Kansas City, like an
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Eagles Detroit like a Detroit does so. But they're definitely
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: in that tier below where they can make noise. And
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: I think right now they're they're shown that they can
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: win against any type of team in any situation.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, And I just think that the Packers, Yes,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: they are a good football team like you're saying, But
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I agree with you as far as a tier below
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: because I think now it's starting to become more prominent. Yes,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: you have Josh Jacobs there, who's getting a lot of
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: volume on a game the game based, but I think
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: they just need that real number one receiver to step up.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be Jayden Reid. Then for
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: a second, Christian Watson had a couple of big games,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: and D'altavian Wicks had some games. Tucker Kraft, he looks
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: like just a good tied end. But I think in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: order for them to compete with the real teams in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: the NFC, the Philly, the Detroit, they're gonna need a
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: real number one receiver because this defense is great. They
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: still or they didn't even have jy R. Alexander in
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: this game. So it just shows that their secondary can
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: get a lot better. And they had some other missing
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: pieces I can't think of, but they're right there. They
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: play the Lions next week or Thursday Night Football, so
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how good they really are. I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: think this is just this is just time where a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of these teams are they gonna answer the call
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: or they're gonna let up. But the Dolphins same thing
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: right here. They could have answered the call but again,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: they didn't answer no call. They just left it on
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: D and D but again, and it's gonna be tough
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: for them to make the playoffs. Even if they do
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs, they're gonna lose, let's be honest. But
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: all right, let's go to move on to the second
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: to last game of this NFL week, which it was
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys versus the New York Giants. Cowboys they
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: win twenty seven to twenty and win their first game
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: since December twenty was the twentieth Yeah no, December twenty
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: first yeah December No No No nineteenth December nineteenth against
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: the Lions Monday Night Football. That was the last time
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: they won a football game. No Saturday night Football. That
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: was the last time they won a home game in
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium. Any takeaways from here, Josh, So.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna make the playoffs at this point?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Bro? I don't even know. This defense is getting better
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: and better by the week. They're getting better and better,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: and d Loss coming back. Trayvon Diggs, he's coming back.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get much hope. I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want much hope. I wanted to go for
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: a draft. But at this point, if I don't mind
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: the win, I don't mind the win. As a fan,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: you don't mind seeing your favorite team win. But at
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: the same yeah, at the same time, it's like, oh,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: well we could have had ash and Gent. We're out
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: of that sweep stakes now, Travis Hunter. So we're out
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: of those sweepstakes. But we're actually looking like a real
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: football team now. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: But again, it's it's a Giants, it's a Giant, It's
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the Commanders. We always beat them every single year. I'm
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: not worried about those teams, you know what I.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Mean, Giants, fav Tyrone, Tracy the ball bro killing.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Bro'. We're finally like shutting down teams as far as
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: running the football.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Finally mikel at least steal like nine carries. Keep handing
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: them the rock like if it turns into something, yeah, no,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: but it's marn overshown to marn Overshown Dog.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: He's a dog University.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: I really don't know all Pro this year, but I think.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: I really don't know what to say about the Cowboys
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: is like, what are y'all doing, Like make a decision.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, man, I don't know. I'm
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: and now we're gonna hear people all kober Rush is
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: better than that, Like shut up, bro, get out of here,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: like casual, like you know, like it's like, yeah, I'd
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: rather the Cowboys lose, so you don't have to make
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: that argument.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, Michah Micah, ever since he
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: came back, he looks like the best I'm not even
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: being biased here. You could add in TJ Watte, Miles
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Garrett as far as defensive player. I'm not saying defensive
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: player of the year, but ever since he's came back,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: he's looked like the best defensive player in the league.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: And he's been wrecking games by himself. And you see
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: him and Demo in the future or tomorrow and overshown,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be a serious problem. They're gonna be a
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: serious problem. All I'm saying is that I'm still doing
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: my drafts here, Josh. If we get a dual carter
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: from Penn State happens to wear the same number that
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Michael Parsons wore, this defense, I'm not gonna say it,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: but this defense that they'll be there they'll be there.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Todd Burks, Todds Burks is gonna get jected by the
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Keennessee Chiefs.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Is protect on his last year.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: He has one more season.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Oh but they're not going to pay him.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: You don't think so.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: He'll be twenty seven years old.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Oh damn yeah no, no, okay, well all right, let's
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: go to move on to this last game right here,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears versus the Detroit Lions. The Lions they won
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty with Matt Ibraflus not called him
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: the timeout at all. I guess he thought he was
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: gonna take it with him ended up getting fired. So
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: anything fires, yeah, you know that.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did I not see this? Bro? How did
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: I not see Matt?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: I guess I just didn't pay attention. I guess I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: was just so focused on basketball, Like I just did
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: not look at any Matt ever blues ever flues like
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: news like. I guess that's not my I'm not looking
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: for Matt ever flu like Mat doing today. You know,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: so I'll say he got fired.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: Pretty weird.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy. It's about happened.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he's gonna be this coach of this
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: team next year. Ben Johnson, Yeah, that's what I was thinking,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Eric b enemy.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Honestly, this sounds crazy right now, but hear me out, Kingsbury,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, what he may. He may get fired from
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: San Francisco just for a fresh start because it is
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: older team that may try to look somewhere new. And
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: you have KAYLEB Williams, DJ Moore, you have some money
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: backs there. It's all I'm saying. That's a sneaky name
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: right there, to just look out for that. That's all
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but I don't know shuh their interim coach.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Let me see what the interim coach.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think I think right now, Ben Johnson the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: enemy mm hmm. Kingsbury, I know people are gonna say
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: that's crazy, but the way he has Washington playing right
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: now offensively, Yeah, Rabel's still out there. I doubt that
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: happens though, But Rabel is still out there, so Brian Flores,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: you know, so we will see.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that if they hire another defensive coach,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: they're just sending they're just setting themselves up for failure.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: But Rabel is a different coach from Matt Eberflus. I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: will say that, you know, I understand his defense, but
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Rabel is not. He's a great coach. I I don't
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: still don't know how he doesn't how he's not a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: head coach. You know. That's and some dudes are out
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: here that are head coaches. You know. So it's like, yeah,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: all right, let's talk about the game, all right, let's
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: talk about the game, all right. I will say that
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: you have Jayden Daniels there, you have Bo Nicks there.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm taking Caleb Williams. No, I don't care. I'm taking
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Kleb Williams. I don't. I don't give a ship what
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: they've done so far this season. I know I'm not
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: the biggest Killer Williams guy, but if if you had
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: me picked between those three, I'm taking kill Williams every
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: single time, because those guys can't do what he can do.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Let's just let's just flat out they they're not on
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: the same level of talent, they're not the same They're
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: sure they're putting up better stats, but let them get
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: sacked nine times, let them get let them get sacked
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: nine times and see what happens in the game and
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: if you watch these football games, They're not escaping the
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: pocket like Kaller Williams does. They're not making some of
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: the throws Kaller Williams does. They're not running the ball
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: like Killabillis Jaden Daniels can. But Killer Williams making it,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: is doing it when it matters, when when the situation
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: breaks down, when he has to Yeah.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Just want to say that, you know, he almost brought
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: them back in this one. There's this is what five
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: weeks in a row. Maybe they lose by one score
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: and it comes down to the end, something crazy, missfield goal,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: of miss time out, just bad situations. It's it's kayl
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Wwlliams is gonna be good. Let's just say that. I'm
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: just gonna say that Kay Williams will be good. But
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: the Lions, this has to be a scary look. This
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: has to be a scary look for the Lions because
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: they were up big in this one. I thought it
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: was gonna be a runaway game. I think everyone thought
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be a runaway game. You know, it
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: felt like that at the beginning, But then the line,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: the bear just kept chipping and chipping and chipping into
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: this lead and the Lions that really had no answers
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: to I don't know if they took their foot off
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: the gas. They were comfortable knowing that they thought they
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: would win. But you can't win that way, you know.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: And it's sure you've been blowing out all these teams,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: but when it comes to this, you should. You should
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: have blew out this team, but you let them come
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: back into this one. And that's something that they have
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: to get back and really look at in these situations.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: What are they gonna do? Who are they gonna turn to?
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: And I think sometimes they forget instead of going for
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: the big plays, instead of letting the they run the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: ball a lot. Yeah, but you got to get the
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: ball to Almoros, same brown and the same reporter. I think.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: I think there has to be a point where the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: big plays aren't necessarily what you want. It's it's it's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: kind of you're going to take the dink and dunks.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: You want to get to the guys that are always open.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: And I think Aman and Saliporter have to get more
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: involved for this team to continue to be to be
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: to be consistent.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know for sure, and I agree with you
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: as far as with the Caleb Williams take one hundred
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: percent he's had to deal with. I know, people they
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: just look at the box score, Alfred, but my bad
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: at the back cost there. But but yeah, no, Caleb Williams,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: he's definitely making these plays in by far, He's easily
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: the option for the number one overall pick this year
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: and is shown this year. And I think with Thomas
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Brown coming in as an intern head coach, you already
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: saw with a new offensive coordinator from these past two weeks,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: he's looked like a lot better quarterback. And Caleb Williams
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: hasn't thrown a turn over or throwing a pick since
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Week six and they're only six since that time span.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, it's a collective effort,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: a team effort in order to win football games. Your
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: quarterback can only do so much. And yeah, after this
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Lion's performance right here, I'm telling you, I think the
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Eagles are the best team in the NFC. And yes,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: the Lions they have everything working out for them. Yes
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: they have the defensive pieces, they have the offensive pieces.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think it
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: just comes down to this. When teams are evenly matched,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: it comes down to the superstar powers or firepower as
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: far as quarterback wise, and as of right now, Jalen
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Hurts has more firepower, more upside than what Jared Goff
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: can do. And I know Jared Goff, he could have
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: two incompletions, four hundred yards, four touchdowns, but Jalen Hurts
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: just has that different upside, that rushing ability that Jared
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Golf just doesn't have. And I know this sounds crazy,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: but as of this your Montgomery Jamier Gibbs versus Saquon
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm taking. Right now, I'm taking Saquon. Yes, it may
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: be the better one two punch, but as far as
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: the three, yeah, yeah, he's the better of the three.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: So I would take that. Aj Brown, Devon sa Smith,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Dallas Gotter, I take that over Amanrow, Jamis and Williams
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Sam Laporto. So I it's close, but I would take
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: the Eagles right there. So don't get me wrong. The
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Lions are still the one of the best teams in
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: the league, but after this week, they're definitely number two
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: for me. So I don't know if you have anything
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: to say about that.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: No, I disagree, but we can keep it moving. No, No,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not saying you're far fetched. I just
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: think we've seen the Lions wrong. We've seen the Lions
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: of the last two seasons be consistent that. I mean,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: the only thing that's really hurt them was themselves, So
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: you know, and I think a lot the Eagles collapsed
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: from last year compared I know we're not supposed to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: this is a new year, but then going into this year,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: I just think that the way the Lions beat some
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: teams as compared to the way Eagles beat some teams,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: I'm taking the Lions not over And understand some of
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: these games are rough, but but hey, they they're they're
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: flat out just controlling games every game.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's true. But all right, Well that
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: pretty much wraps up Week thirteen of the NFL season.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, like we do every
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: single week, so called MVPs of the week, a player
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: that has stood out throughout the week. Josh, who is
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: your so called MVP here?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Russell Wilson this week. That's my
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: so called MVP of the week. Four hundred plus yards,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: four touchdown, three touchdowns, three touchdowns three four or three
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: three three touchdowns? You know I'm gonna go That's what
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with. I think he has the Steelers
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: on track offensively, He's really getting them. All the receivers involved, Mooth, Pickings, Austin,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: all of them are playing some good roles for this
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: football team, and especially him, I think he has them
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: clicking Without him. I understand Justin Filds was winning games,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: but there are some games that I think Justin Fields
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to close out. If that Russell Wilson
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: can and I and I think that's that's the that's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: the changing point for this team, and that's why Russell
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Wilson for me this week, especially after his performance is
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: so called MVP of the week.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well mine is gonna be Bucky Irvin. One hundred
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: and eighty five total scrimmage yards, a touchdown, twenty eight carries,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: averaging six point six yards every time he touched the ball,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: and bro was just completely dominant. Won me a couple
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: of fantasy football leagues here, one of them against Josh
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: actually a close second, though a close second just because
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: storyline was Jerry Judy nine for two thirty five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the lost hurts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly it would have gone to Jamis or Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Judy one of the two. It would have gone away
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  Speaker 1: if they won. Yeah. No, but all right, Josh, any
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: last words before we get out of here.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: No, all right, before we get out of here.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Follow us on Twitter at Flying Garciare.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Oh and I know we're gonna have another pot this week,
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  Speaker 2: but I just want you to know, Afonso, the Bulls
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: are losing on Thursday night. Say non't you say that?
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Don't you say that? Well, we'll talk about that a
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: little bit more on Thursday. We'll talk about that a
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: little bit more on Thursday morning. So yeah, know, well
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: we'll see. I still need to give it my Bulls
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: jersey actually because yesterday I went bro Mall was packed.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Everybody in their Marmal's there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: People don't work bro.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna say this off camera. Let me
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: go and finish this. Follow us on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Whether you listen to this.
• 1:31:40
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• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: to anybody that likes sports, We'll see you guys Thursday
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: morning for prediction Bulls are winning Kobe White is my goat.
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  Speaker 3: You guys think everywhere