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WARNING: Why Vegas is WRONG About the Sooners' 7.5 Win Total | Hammering the OVER! · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: Vegas win totals, Baby, and we've got to talk about
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  Speaker 1: a lot of great offseason stuff to dive into, like
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  Speaker 1: spreme practice, like the actual physical practices are coming up
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  Speaker 1: this week. We're gonna talk about Vegas and their win
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  Speaker 1: totals and just why I agree and disagree. Lastly, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna really look at some of the position stuff. Coop
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of things on his brain about what
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  Speaker 1: could go right, also what could go wrong. So Coop
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  Speaker 1: Happy Sunday. Man, it's been a bit, but we're back
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  Speaker 1: on track. Baby, Now to campus here sign fust or
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  Speaker 1: really turn the heat up, man, how's it.
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  Speaker 2: Going going good?
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  Speaker 3: I have been enjoying the spring break with the staycation.
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  Speaker 3: Some soccer mixed in and some football mixed in. You know,
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  Speaker 3: always always another injury mixed in, which is which is good?
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  Speaker 3: You know, But you had yourself a fun little trip,
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  Speaker 3: So how was that?
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  Speaker 1: It was good? You know? Kiddo turned eighteen. So my
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  Speaker 1: youngest is now officially eighteen. He'll be going to OU
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  Speaker 1: in the fall, so he'll be a sooner sooner born's
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  Speaker 1: bread he'll be when he dies, he'll be sooner dead.
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  Speaker 1: So pretty excited about that. He's pretty stoked about it.
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  Speaker 1: Just trying to figure out how he wants to do things,
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  Speaker 1: but he is. He's We're getting everything prepped and all
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  Speaker 1: of that there. And then of course my oldest graduates
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  Speaker 1: here in May. She gets her her undergrad from LSU
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  Speaker 1: Go Tigas, So I'll be I'll be between Louisiana and
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  Speaker 1: here in May like crazy, and then a moving her
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  Speaker 1: out east. So yeah, it's gonna be a fun, fun year.
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  Speaker 1: But Coop, the best part is is that college football
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  Speaker 1: has continued to see a massive evolution. Some people like it,
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  Speaker 1: some people hate it. I love it because it means
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  Speaker 1: it's so much, so many more things to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Plus there are so many more teams that truly have
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  Speaker 1: a chance we just saw with Indiana winning a Natty
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  Speaker 1: because their coach brought all their players. They showed continuity
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  Speaker 1: and they showed a way to weather the storm of
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  Speaker 1: college football. So we get to do that again here.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, we got our ten win season in
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  Speaker 1: the SEC, so it shut up a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: about if Oklahoma could even handle being here. We ain't
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  Speaker 1: gotta be concerned about that no more. We're gonna jump
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  Speaker 1: right in, uh to that, because yeah, I think that
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  Speaker 1: that's probably the best starting point right there. Did you
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  Speaker 1: look at all of the the wind totals or whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to look at the Yeah, I'm excited
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  Speaker 3: to get into them because.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, this is Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: Is in the business of making money, right Like that's
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  Speaker 3: that's their whole goal, and so whenever they put these
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  Speaker 3: things out like they're not in they're not really interested.
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  Speaker 3: We were at seven and a half last year, right
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  Speaker 3: We started at six and a half, ended up at
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  Speaker 3: seven and a half.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ease you to.
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  Speaker 3: Take all the proceeds to the podcast and put it
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  Speaker 3: on over because yeah, I mean, like I that's what
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  Speaker 3: I feel is a very very uh you know, fun
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  Speaker 3: part about this type of year, there's more content to
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  Speaker 3: you know, to talk about. But you know, it's funny
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  Speaker 3: because you see them buying into the hype of some
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  Speaker 3: people yet again, and then you see them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: disrespecting some folks yet again.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, you're one hundred percent right on that, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I can make an argument on why Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: why Vegas selection made sense, and why it also didn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense when it comes to that. But yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna look at that because we definitely gotta look at
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  Speaker 1: the competition schedule and all that as well. So let's
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and jump right into it first and foremost
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  Speaker 1: whore you go, you have shout out to my I
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  Speaker 1: got Chris Marla over there at Louisiana sports dot Net.
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  Speaker 1: He builts some great graphics. I'm actually making my own
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  Speaker 1: as well, so that we'll have a lot of this
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  Speaker 1: going forward, especially once we really get into covering more
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  Speaker 1: of just college football in general. But this is the
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  Speaker 1: wind toow right now. And as you mentioned, Oklahoma is
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  Speaker 1: sitting here at seven point five, and I'm gonna be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. The devil doesn't need advocates, But I
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  Speaker 1: understand where Vegas was going with this for Oklahoma. This
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  Speaker 1: is the reason why I'll start with this and then Coop,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on it. Let's look
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  Speaker 1: at the schedule. Vegas says seven and a half, which
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  Speaker 1: means they're saying about seven wins, which means what five losses.
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  Speaker 1: That to me means that they believe that there's a
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  Speaker 1: minimum of four to five toss up games. And I
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  Speaker 1: think I see where they're saying this. At Michigan on
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  Speaker 1: the road, UG on the road. So that's your first
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  Speaker 1: four games of the season, actually five, including Texas in
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  Speaker 1: Red River. Your first your first P four games, Your
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  Speaker 1: first three P four games are either on the road
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  Speaker 1: or neutral site. And that's it. Within the first five games.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pretty big deal. Granted, last season, Oklahoma showed
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  Speaker 1: that they performed very well on the road. I get
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  Speaker 1: where the skepticism comes in. So I say Michigan since
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma right is right now, what a one and a
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  Speaker 1: half point dog at ann Arbor just because you're on
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  Speaker 1: the road neutral site means Oklahoma's a favorite. If they're
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  Speaker 1: at home, they will be like a five and a
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  Speaker 1: half point favorite. UGA on the road, Texas at Red
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  Speaker 1: River and until we actually score a touchdown in that game,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's gonna be a toss up Florida
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  Speaker 1: on the road. And I honestly think if they believe
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  Speaker 1: that it stays at five losses, it's between Old Miss
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  Speaker 1: and Texas A and M as a challenge, mainly because
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  Speaker 1: Old Miss could have turn that Chambler's coming back. Texas
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  Speaker 1: A and M still has a lot of good players
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  Speaker 1: on that ross that won eleven games, but there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things holes in there that we would have
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  Speaker 1: to break down. So I get Vegas's mindset. But as
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  Speaker 1: mentioned in the in the chat by my boy Stevie
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  Speaker 1: as well as you Coup, I'm hammering over in which
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  Speaker 1: the moment, the moment I get into into Tennessee this week,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hammering that over on the sports books period.
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  Speaker 3: You said it right, is which games are is? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to be in conflict Michigan. You got Whittingham
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  Speaker 3: coming up there. Stability has not been uh, the the
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  Speaker 3: underlying uh, I guess virtue in ann Arbor for quite
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  Speaker 3: a long time. So now you bring in a guy
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  Speaker 3: who's known for the stability. You go to Georgia, which
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  Speaker 3: you know is tied for the most with nine and
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  Speaker 3: a half. Not a lot of people win there, right,
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  Speaker 3: what is it? They just had their big streak broken
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  Speaker 3: last year Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you now. My caveat with Texas is the
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  Speaker 3: only time we've played in the past four years where
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  Speaker 3: we had a healthy team and and the quarterback we won,
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  Speaker 3: and that was the year with DG and the game
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  Speaker 3: winner to Nick Anderson. So you want to see what
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  Speaker 3: does Oklahoma look like? Because you go to Georgia, then
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  Speaker 3: you got your bye, and you just hope you come
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  Speaker 3: back out of that, you come out of that game healthy.
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  Speaker 3: But nonetheless, it is your neutral site game. You've now
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  Speaker 3: played at Michigan, at Georgia and in Dallas. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that Mississippi State is going to be
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  Speaker 3: the factor in there. South Carolina got some bad news
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  Speaker 3: here with with their star outside rusher potentially going under
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  Speaker 3: the knife. So yeah, I think it is at the
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  Speaker 3: swamp ole miss at home, which they beat us at
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  Speaker 3: home last year.
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  Speaker 2: And then A and M.
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  Speaker 3: So if you say that, all right, you've got these games,
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  Speaker 3: these five games of conflict, and then let's not just
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  Speaker 3: say that Missouri is just a layout. This schedule is
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more easy to navigate than it was
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  Speaker 3: last year, especially on the back half instead of ending
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  Speaker 3: you know, obviously the LSU declined kind of prevented that
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  Speaker 3: from being such a you know, insurmountable end of the season.
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  Speaker 3: But this this is a little bit easier. So, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you fans, you have watched this, You've you've seen the
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  Speaker 3: progress of the team. You got to think that Materi
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  Speaker 3: fully healthy, offensive line, older, there's a lot of there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot to be excited about. And so you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to get a lot of money from oh
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  Speaker 3: you and you know what, they're gonna get a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money from OU fans to hammering probably the under
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  Speaker 3: on Texas. So there's there, there's a lot there that
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  Speaker 3: you have to take in and chew on. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it does feel a little disrespectful because you beat Michigan
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  Speaker 3: last year, right you uh, you haven't played Georgia yet,
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  Speaker 3: but it's uh, you know, people are probably not too
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  Speaker 3: scared of Kentucky. They're going to be in there Will
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  Speaker 3: Stein early year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, kind of a.
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  Speaker 3: I guess a process. Mississippi State still looking to win
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  Speaker 3: a conference game, is it zero in the past two
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  Speaker 3: years or one in the past two years, just not
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  Speaker 3: very much. South Carolina. You went up to their house,
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  Speaker 3: you probably put the most uh you know, dominant, you know,
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  Speaker 3: game against South South Carolina last year Florida new regime,
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  Speaker 3: Ole miss You kind of feel like, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: the field wasn't different. So there's a lot of yeah butts,
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  Speaker 3: but everybody feels pretty much the same around here.
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  Speaker 2: Is that you hammer it over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're taking it over. And like I said, that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of why I kind of understand where Vegas is
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  Speaker 1: thinking with this when I look at it, because we'll
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  Speaker 1: look at the other schedules in a second, because I
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  Speaker 1: think when you look at the competition as well, with
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  Speaker 1: their schedules, look their what their their schedules look like
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  Speaker 1: on top of what their winters look like kind of
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  Speaker 1: lines up. So like Oklahoma went to fan duel, most
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  Speaker 1: of the juice right now is on the under seven
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  Speaker 1: and a half on FanDuel. But when I looked at
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  Speaker 1: Caesar's n MGM, all of the favorite to cover is
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  Speaker 1: the over. They expect a wins out of this team
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  Speaker 1: in which the schedule to me lines up for a
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  Speaker 1: minimum of eight if not ten, wins like the toss
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  Speaker 1: up games. For me, one hundred percent is going to
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  Speaker 1: be Georgia in Texas. I think Kyle Whittingham's gonna need
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  Speaker 1: a year at Michigan to really get that going. Uga
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  Speaker 1: still got Gunner stocked in Texas brings back you know,
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  Speaker 1: arch Manning. So when you bring back veterans signal callers,
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  Speaker 1: I usually lean your direction just a little bit. Well,
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  Speaker 1: i'll lean in the I'll usually lean your direction, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll also give you I'll say that you are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be definitely a formidable opponent. Let's put it that way, probabe,
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  Speaker 1: the simplest way to say it. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a runaway. We got to see if Chambliss
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be back. Problem for a and M is
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  Speaker 1: that line. That line got gutted by the by players
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  Speaker 1: going pro Florida new coaching staff. Like he said, South
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  Speaker 1: Carolina lost not only one, but two offensive tackles and
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  Speaker 1: now there was like their edges on the fritz. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know if Kamario Taylor is gonna play for
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State to start the season. We'll see. After he
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  Speaker 1: got injured at the end of that Bowl game, which
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  Speaker 1: was just gruesome, felt so bad for the kids. He
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  Speaker 1: wanted to play football. And that's and that's a situation
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  Speaker 1: where some people will say it's just stupid that he
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  Speaker 1: played in that game. So either you complain it he's playing,
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  Speaker 1: or you can plain it he's not playing. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know which one it's gonna be. That one's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: challenge Kentucky new coach. Missouri. They got Austin Simmons now
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  Speaker 1: as they're starting quarterback because they've announced it. Oklahoma's schedule
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  Speaker 1: still is pretty to like you mean, it's still favorable.
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  Speaker 1: It's still favorle to where this win total should be
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  Speaker 1: the over. But it's interesting. Now let's look at some
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  Speaker 1: of the opponents. First off, let's look at Georgia. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia is interesting because let me see, I had their
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  Speaker 1: schedule here. This is what their schedule looks like. Travel
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  Speaker 1: to Arkansas a week before Oklahoma. That may play a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a factor since Oklahoma's playing a cupcake
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  Speaker 1: the week before Vandy at the crib. They got Bama
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  Speaker 1: non road.
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  Speaker 3: That I'll pause you right there because it's not just
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  Speaker 3: Vandy because obviously Pavia is gone, but it's the fact
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  Speaker 3: that you come off, Oh you you're going to have
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  Speaker 3: to put it down because Vandy is just a scrappy team.
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  Speaker 3: Clark Le, he has everybody playing to the deal to
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  Speaker 3: where he's the the enthusiasm and the confidence started with him.
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  Speaker 3: Now Pavia, it was more loud with through his mouth.
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  Speaker 3: But you can't just prepare for Bama the week after Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 3: like you got to focus in with Vanderbilt and that
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's that's the sec right, but it
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  Speaker 3: is going Arkansas, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Alabama, and then Auburn. Like
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  Speaker 3: then they get an open But I mean that's five
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  Speaker 3: straight teams to where you got to actually be on
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  Speaker 3: your game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And like you this isn't you know your
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  Speaker 1: Grandma's Vanderbilt as every it makes a joke, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: vanderb this isn't what it used to be. Like everyone
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  Speaker 1: was used to Vanderbilt being one of mark w and
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  Speaker 1: you can use that as a as an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: play some of your other play. No, Vandy's been getting
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  Speaker 1: solid recruits. They've been developing like crazy. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: clark Lee one of my favorite coaches in the conference.
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  Speaker 1: He got he has those those dudes playing. Then they
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  Speaker 1: got Bama on the road. Now Bama has a new quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know who it's either gonna be what mac
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  Speaker 1: or Keelan Russell. I'm not sure what that's gonna look
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  Speaker 1: like yet. Then they host Auburn at the Crib. Then
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  Speaker 1: they finally get a buye. So they got five straight
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  Speaker 1: SEC games at the beginning of the season, whereas for Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 1: it's like they only got they got like all of
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  Speaker 1: theirs at the end, like it there on the back end.
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  Speaker 1: But Georgia starts the season with all of theirs. That's
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  Speaker 1: going to be That's where the challenge comes in in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: You don't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just looking at this like, obviously Alabama Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 3: those your two top echelon teams. But it's not like
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  Speaker 3: they get the bottom of the SEC per se on
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  Speaker 3: the back side of their schedule either. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 3: got the cocktail. You know, you've got the neutral site
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  Speaker 3: game with Florida, right at ole Miss, which I got
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  Speaker 3: to think that there's going to be some ebbs and
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  Speaker 3: flows in ole Miss this season this year, chamberless or not. Vanderbilt, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And with Vanderbilt I mean, you lost the five star
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  Speaker 3: quarterback in Jared Curtis to Vanderbilt. He's probably going to
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  Speaker 3: be the starter. I'm just venturing to say that he's
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  Speaker 3: probably going to be the starter. So he's probably going
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  Speaker 3: to try to come out and show that, hey, you
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  Speaker 3: should have up to the you should have up the
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  Speaker 3: offer because.
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  Speaker 2: I'm worth it.
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  Speaker 3: But Missouri South Carolina and then Georgia Tech is just
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  Speaker 3: always a fistfight of a game for them, and just
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  Speaker 3: because the way that they play ball. So you don't
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  Speaker 3: see the Mississippi State there. I mean you got the Arkansas,
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  Speaker 3: which you know it had a struggle, but that was
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  Speaker 3: a very, very potent offense and Patino has that offense
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  Speaker 3: just dialed in. So this schedule, I mean, Georgia has
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  Speaker 3: a better schedule I think this year than they had
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  Speaker 3: last year as far as it's like how strong it.
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  Speaker 1: Is they really do. It's a lot more favorable. So
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  Speaker 1: I understand they're nine and a half. It makes sense
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  Speaker 1: like I'm looking at this as toss up to from
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: them going to twelve, so them winning ten games, so
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  Speaker 1: the two losses, Oklahoma's going to be a challenge. Alabama's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. I think that's their two
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  Speaker 1: biggest challenge on their schedule. And what makes this even
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  Speaker 1: more favorable for Georgia is they have no back to
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  Speaker 1: back road game. Yeah, Oklahoma doesn't as well, not now
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  Speaker 1: the P four games there are. They don't play a
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  Speaker 1: P four game at home until after red River, but
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  Speaker 1: there's no back to back road games, which is very favorable.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes you think at the other nine and a
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  Speaker 1: half is Texas. This is where things get even more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Different with them is they rolled against Tennessee by week
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  Speaker 1: red River. Then they got three straight home games, which
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  Speaker 1: of course is very much favorable, but then they have
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  Speaker 1: back to back roads. They played three of their last
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  Speaker 1: four games on the road at Missouri. Should be a
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  Speaker 1: you know, at old school big twelve. So it should
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  Speaker 1: actually be a little bit more of a challenge for
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  Speaker 1: texasn't expected at Lane Kiffin and LSU Tigers, the fighting
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffins. Now they got left tackle and they got
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback. That could be something interesting, cause Seton is
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a beast. Care what anybody say. Dude is good. He's
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  Speaker 1: very good. He may not be the most refined, but
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  Speaker 1: his just natural ability is that good. That's the thing
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  Speaker 1: that kind of helps him. And then they travel to
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  Speaker 1: College Station on Black Friday, the Ohio State game in
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  Speaker 1: their mixed too like they start the season off just
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  Speaker 1: like Oklahoma, except for Ohio States at the Crib, but
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  Speaker 1: two of their three P four games are neutral site
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: or on the road to start the year, with Ohio
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: State helping them start the season off with three straight
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: home games. Julian is saying, to be another year older,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: just like Arch. They got some they got a ball
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in front of them. But that Tennessee game before us
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: with the bye week, similar to Oklahoma having Georgia and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: then the bye and then Texas, that's where things are
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: really going to be intriguing personally.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And with Texas, which Texas do you get? Do you
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: get the early season Texas last year where receivers dropping balls,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: your you know one hopping receivers, the offensive line you
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: know was was, I mean, not terrific. And but I
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: think that Texas is going to face the same situation
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma is is your ceiling is going to be one
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: hundred percent measured by number one, the offensive line, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: number two you're it's going to be measured a lot
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: by the progress of the quarterback arch Manning into the
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the year, I didn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: buy into Texas A and m and I think that
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: we saw that, Uh their defense was pretty good, you
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: know against Miami, but you know we just there their
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: offense just wasn't it's erratic. We saw the situation against
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: South Carolina to where they're just getting trounced at halftime.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: So when that game was slated, even though Texas had
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: been struggling, you know, on the road with Mississippi State
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: and Kentucky, like I thought they're going to be the name.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: So it is, it's do you get the back half
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: of the season arch Manning and is that offense.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Gonna be humming?
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: And then ones the defense look like under Will must Champigain.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: You know, you you replace the defensive coordinator. You saw
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: some of your you know, your your your defense backfield,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: your u Malik Muhammad and uh the safety his name
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: just leaves my head at the moment. But Taff, Yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: so you see those two guys, those are gone. Taff
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: was you know, kind of a heart and soul. He
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: was kind of there. Owen Heineke just a guy that
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: out is out there flying around making plays, and so
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: we'll see. You know, if I look at ou in Texas,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I look at from a standpoint of can the offense
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: now become more of a complimentary unit to the special
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: teams in the defense. And with Texas it's you got
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: tons of weapons, tons of weapons. Now there's no excuses
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: on offense. The offensive line still has to prove it
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: that they're going to be consistent. But they lost a
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: ton of running backs and I know that they got
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Hollywood smothers and he had himself some good games against
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: some middle teams. Yeah, and so we'll see what happens.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Because you don't have any excuse on the offense. So
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: what does that defense look like? Well, I mean, this
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: is why we talk about it now, because it doesn't
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: really matter until you get on the field. I think
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Ohio State's got a lot to prove and say, hey, listen,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: is fourteen to seven. We controlled the whole game. The
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: only reason why there was any drama was because the
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: last couple of minutes last year. And so you come
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: down to Austin and get yourself a win that puts
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Ohio State right back in the thick of it with everything,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: and they're still gonna have Jeremi Smith, they're still gonna
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: have saying, you know, but they're losing a an awful
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: lot to the draft this year too.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what makes it so interesting. It's there's a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: lot of refreshes that like, I'm gonna have this exact
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: same feeling about Oklahoma probably going into next year with
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: some of the refreshes we're probably going to do, especially
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: on defense. It's depending on who we lose. If a
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: huge season happens this year, very good chance, you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: defensive line is gonna get gutted.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Where you get afraid, right, like you're gonna have that
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: conversation about your own team if if things go that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: particular direction, depending on who gets picked up. So, but
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: when I looked at the totals, though, I get where
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Vegas is coming from. While the same time, in my eyes,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Troop be told hammering it over, man, it's no reason
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: why Oklahoma shouldn't hit that. Definitely gonna drop the pole.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Want to know what y'all think on this? Do you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: uh do you think Oklahoma can hit the over? We'll
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: put that out there right now, and we gotta talk
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit of spring ball. So Coop them past
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to you in a second. Thank you all for, of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: course pulling up hit that like button. If you're new
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• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop here in a poll. Can Oklahoma repeat
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: with ten wins? How much y'all hit? Yes, and no
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: pole begins. But we got spring ball to preview workouts
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: have been happening, and y'all know people are excited about
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: specific players. We're hearing about freshman's you know, breaking out,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: We're hearing about the transfer guys. We've heard the transfer
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: guys talk. A lot of them have kind of given
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: their perspective and thoughts of Oklahoma, and of course it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: good they like what they're seeing right now. So can't
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: beat that coop going into the spring camp. Man, what
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: are you looking at?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Let's start on the defense. What made Oklahoma so good
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: last year was the relentless pursuit by the defensive line.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Is you rolled in so many different guys. You know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: you had the late season emergence of Taylor Wine, you
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: had our Mason just as the known entity PJ out
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: there also, but you have those four defensive tackles between Halton,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Dominic Williams Jadon Jackson and David Stone. So you lose
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Jade and Jai or sorry, you lose Don Williams and
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: you lose Baby and obviously g Baby is I mean,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: he's flying up the draft boards right now. So you
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: you've got to find that backside production. And so I
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: was looking for who steps up? Is it a transfer?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Is it is it a younger guy? And then you
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: know you lose our Mason. Now you feel good because
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: we still got a Taylor Wine. But now you try
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: to say, okay, well on the other side, is it
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: going to be PJ stepping up and really taking over?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Is it going to be Danny Okoye continuing to progress
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and take over? But there's three names on that defensive line.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Jay that I've been hearing a lot of great stuff
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: about Number one why at Gilmore.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Bv Miss and the pressure that he feels like he's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the next He's the next to wine breakout. And I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: mean he came here as a four star player. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was hoping he'd get his weight up and be ready.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: It sounds like we're at that point.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: It sounds like he has taken a step, and it
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: sounds like it is is a big thing. I mean,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: why they did not play in Texas, he didn't play
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: in Florida, he didn't play in SEC country. He played
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: in Minnesota, and he don't You don't get a lot
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: of you don't get a lot of like great stories
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: about kids out of Minnesota. But the the pedigree that
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: is being built by Miguel Chavs and these outside guys
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: are absolutely just it's phenomenal because for the longest time,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: it didn't matter who the defensive ends coach was like
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: we would have a guy kind of pop up and
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: be something immediately. We always depended on, you know, guys
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: like Eric Striker and Nick Benito to really be a
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: stand up, outside, rush off the edge type of a guy,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: but not like a true defensive end. We didn't have
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of big time sacks. Now you've got Taylor
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Wine who is another year in the system. He's got
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: the confidence, but there's gonna be film on him. So
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you got you got White, Gilmore stepping up, Daniel Koye
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of people. I mean, he's been showing up.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I think he was on a Nash, it was on
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Paul Finebaum.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: People do not.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Fear what's going to happen on this defensive line because
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: they kind of trust Todd Baits, they trust Miguel Chavis.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: But right now, your edge, your edge side just looks
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: phenomenal from having like I said, PJ. And he's going
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to be coming off of a little surgery cleanup. You're
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: gonna have Taylor, You're gonna have a Koya. Now Gilmore
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: starting to get some some some good reviews also inside
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: go ahead and do you want.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say add to that. As mentioned here
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in the chat, someone to keep your eyes out. Jimmy
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: mentioned this CJJ Nixon, the former Hooper and big Edge.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: The buzz around him is start to turn up as well,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: which is what you were hoping for you You you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: got him in state talent that's always a big deal.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And it appears that he is. He's starting to make
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: another name for himself as.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Well, and you throw him in as the potential fifth
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: defensive end, which is crazy.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I if you're saying, hey, how can we you want
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: to be in a spot to where the coaches are
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: looking at you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You saw it with Davon Jordan last year.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: You've seen it with Boganowski, with any equation, like how
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: do we get him more snaps? And so you had
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: a number five defensive end and it's just a freakish
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: out athlete. Now, I think CJ is probably going to
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: be where a Koya was last year. It's it's the
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: learning of the game. It's the progressing of you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: seeing you know something on the field, uh, you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: taking the win and putting in your back pocket and
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: move onto the next snap. But then also sometimes, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: mean you're playing some of the best you know, offensive
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: linemen in the country, and there's gonna need to be
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: coachable moments. Well, the opposite on the offensive line the
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: past couple of years, as you couldn't bring guys off
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: to coach them up because we just didn't have the bodies.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: So having the bodies is a good thing. But yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: moving inside, we know what we know what we're getting
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: out of David Stone, and I think that David is
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: probably going to be even leveled up a little bit more,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: a little super sayan mode for my uh for my
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: uh uh dbz uh you know friends out there, but
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: you got Jaden, you got David. Those guys those are
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: well known entities. But our boy friend of the program.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Nigel Smith's starting to get a lot of rave reviews,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and if you don't have any Nigel Smith's stock, maybe
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: start buying some Nigel Smith stock because it is an
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: absolute just.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Treat to hear.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: You know, Nigel was a little bit of a tweener.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: We talked to him, you know, I think Chaves actually
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: called him during our interview. But you know, two years
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: two years, yeah, two years plus ago. You know, we
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: were talking to him about do you want to blow
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: up the quarterback on a sack or just plow offensive lineman?
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: And we asked him where do you want to play?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: And you know, he gave the proper answer with you know, hey,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you know I just want to just wanna, you know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: do what's best for the team. Well, he's put on
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the weight, he's moved inside. He's approaching that g Baby
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: year to waight right now, you know, approach that two nineties.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: So G Baby is gone, You're gonna need another wrecker
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: inside and you're gonna need some more bodies. Dom Dom
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: was a big anchor. So I'm you know, I love
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: hearing about Nigel and I love hearing that people are
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: saying by Stock because it's not just hey, he's flashing.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: It's like this is this is another guy you needed?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's less of uh oh, he's uh, he's flashing
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: in more of a no, no, no, there there's something
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: there like they think that he's gonna be some something
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: like he's he's showing glimmers of you could be the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: next dude. And that was the one big thing with
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: him was health. He wasn't healthy the the last couple
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: of seasons. I think he had something with his ankle,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: may have had a surgery, I'm not sure, but I
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: know he was dealing with some stuff. And the question
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: was how healthy will he be going into a year
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like he is. I'm here for that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: We need that, Yeah, definitely. So and Jeremy Stevens. Shield
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Knight's a guy that a lot of people are gonna forget.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: So kind of going with Robert's question, you know, what
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: are some guys that you didn't see anything out of shield.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Knight right now? Might be that number six edge guy.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: And where I think in some of the you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: big BV like Clemson lines as you just had first
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: round guy, first got first round guy, first round guy,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and but then what made it dangerous? Was the fact
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: that you had a bunch of fourth and fifth round
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: guys like back behind them, So there wasn't the big
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: drop off when you pulled one of those guys off
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: the field. You couldn't run on them to get a
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: switch out and expect it to be better. You just
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: got fresh legs after fresh legs after fresh legs. So
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: child Knight's one that, like I said, the coaches had
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: every moment to go, you know what we're going to
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: We're going to back off on him because we're higher
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: on some other guys. No, they stayed with him. They
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: believed in that that evel and he's starting to show off.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: But another name that's hearing some stuff on is Trent Wilson.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: And Trent Wilson.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Out of DC.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: You know he's going to be a sophomore this year.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: You need you know, that was a big question. Is
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: is he going to progress? Is he going to go
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: and take up that next spot? But Trent Wilson starting
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: to get.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: A lot actualdge Okay.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Richer, Yes, So you've got that as another thing you
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: fold in Kenny Ozawalu coming out, you know, a transfer portal.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Another big guy who Brent Vinables is going to be
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: looking at shops BV at Chavis Baits. They're all going
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: to be pretty excited about that because he's a guy
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: that you can play on edge. He's a guy that
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: you can play in the middle. He has a lot
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: of versatility and now being coached up by Javis and Baits,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: being in the Oklahoma strength and conditioning program, like, there's
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: a lot there. And so you right now feel pretty
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: good about five guys on the inside. And then you
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: still got some more transfers and some more young guys
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: like Brian Harris, who was You know, you don't want
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: to you don't want to depend on freshmen, especially in
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: the SEC, but if a freshman earns a couple of
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: snaps here and there, it's a big time opportunity.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and okay, Trader, I love this. And what's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: crazy about this as you mentioned it? Yeah, yeah, Jane
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Jackson was banged up and he still put up numbers
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like at one point he was leading the team in
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: sacks and that's how you knew that the team was
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: progressing in the direction you were hoping for because he
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: was leading the team in sacks. Because everybody was so
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: focused on stopping ar Mason Thomas. They were so focused
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: on slowing down Marvin Jones Junior, the former five star.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: They're looking at all these pieces that were attacking him,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and the interior said, oh, we're gonna go ahead and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: jump in this game too. And you got that from
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: That's how you got Jay and Jackson to go out there.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And he actually put up he said he put up
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: some put up some solid number. I think he finished
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: was that he had three sacks last year eleven tackles,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: three sacks of pressure, seven hurries and that was after
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: he even missed I think a couple of games or whatnot.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So but yeah, it sounds like Jacob Henry's holding his
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: own needs to get up a three hundred. He probably
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: has passed it. We'll get probably weights and stuff this week.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I've been refreshing the Sooner Sports site to see the
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: weight changes and everything, and of course you know, we'll
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: we'll be talking about all of that once. It's probably
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be close to Wednesday. We'll get that, and I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: know BV will also give us the latest update on
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: injuries and stuff like PJ had to have surgery, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: maybe get an update on Daniel Akinkumi, who posts the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: picture of him going under the knife. But that to me,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I really want to know what's up with PJ. But
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that still opens the door. Like we mentioned before, when
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: we're talking inter you guys, you had or extra your
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: guys with why Gilmour being one that should break out?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe here's something from shild Night HEXCJ Nixon may be dead, dude.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: We expect Daniel Koye to be the other starter. So
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: it appears that we are we're putting together the competitive
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: depth that we need.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Jay, should I tease?
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I want to tease a little something about the unit
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: that would be playing right behind, right behind our defensive line,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and that's our linebackers. I think that you mentioned if
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: you have a really good this year, this year, you
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: potentially lose a lot of guys on the defensive line,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and so you needs So I mean, obviously this defense
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: begins and ends with the defensive line, because if you
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: can create pressure, you allow Courtland Gillery and Eli Bowen
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: to be extremely.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Aggressive.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: You'll let the safeties come in and support where they're needing.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: But Bevi's a linebacker guy, and as of right now,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: your your linebacker is probably slated to be Kip Lewis
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Cole Sullivan. But Jay, what if I said that the
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: owen Heinike battle is still ongoing.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jim Maggie mentioned it, so I guess we
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: should chit chat about it. Thank y'all for pulling up
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• 38:38
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• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Jim Naggy mentioned that the owen Heinek they're gonna sue
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and they don't keep that battle going. I am stilling
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: to believe that kid ain't coming back. You're going pro.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: But I have shifted my ninety percentile confidence of him
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: bouncing to more of a sixty five percent. And I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: say that because his weight at the combine or at
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the Pro Day made me think that if they can
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: win this case, it would be smarter for him to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: come back one more year because he came in. Let
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: me see Pro day weight six one two twenty nine
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: thirty just about two thirty. It's not bad, but it's light.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: He needs to close there to forty, and it needs
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to be a sustainable to forty, as in, he's probably
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: gonna need to be two fifty going into the season
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and play at around two thirty five to forty consistently.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: He's probably honestly, if they win this, it will make
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: sense when to come back.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: So here is.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Some factors in this. Roger Denny is an attorney, and
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I know that we've mentioned this before.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: He knows a.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Lot about a lot.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: So I would say that let's watch for stuff around
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: this week because I think that by the end of
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: this week we'll probably have something a little bit more public.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: And you're at sixty five, I think I'm at fifty five.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I think I'm fifty five percent of him going. But
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I think that if it gets ruled for him to
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: if he wins, if we win the case, don't be
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: surprised that we get a big announcement. And why that matters.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I absolutely feel that Owen Heinike is probably not a
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: guy that is going to be first or second team
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: on actual NFL team. I think he's going to be
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: a scout guy. I think he's gonna get his opportunity
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: on special teams. That's where he made his bones here
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: before this year. I just don't think he's ready. So
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: then you have to go, all right, ohen this is
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: what you're probably gonna make as an undrafted free agent
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: or a seventh round draft pick or something like that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: We can beat that. The NIL is going to beat
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: that here. So just know that it's not done yet.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I expect something this week. And Jay, you and I
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: both said for months, guys, don't read into this. It's gone,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: it's over. But it ain't over till it's over.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Everybody he's talking about it. That's where I've been at
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the man, this kid ain't coming back. Keep going pro
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and chuck, as you mentioned, the whole point of going playing,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you know, playing college is to hit the NFL. Right,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: your opportunity is there. It sounds like there's a favorable
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: gray go. But then everyone keeps mentioning, Okay, we're gonna sue.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: There's the possibility of thisthing, like why why are we
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: facing chasing that? That's when I started thinking about it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, when I look at the measurements that
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: he came in on, they must think that one, he'd
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: make more to come back here at OU at NIL.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Two he'll get way more playing time, So those reps
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: will probably be a good thing for him, and he'll
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: be able to put in more weight, which should help
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: him to be able to help his grade because if anything,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: to me, I think his grade probably drop because he's
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: not too fifty at sixty to one. I think Teddy
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Layman played it like too forty eight and he was
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: about six to one.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: So he's not faster.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: It's like faster he needs more weight. I mean running
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: four six two. I mean Shuttle was solid at four
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: two five, but he needs to run running four six two.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: If he could shave that down to like a four
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: or five five while also adding weight, that could help him.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not sold on the one in this case because
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the path for me is I'm still asking the question,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the question I've asked this entire time. What is the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: argument that the lacrosse thing, it could have red shirted him? There? Cool,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: maybe you can do that. Your issue that you could
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: run into is like if the only availability is really
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: like a red shirt or a medical red shirt, you
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: can only play so many games. So I'm trying to
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: figure out. I don't see where the path is. Now.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: They may have a good argument, better, much big argument
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: than me. I just haven't seen the path.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's precedent. I think that now
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: with so many people that have won these fifth eighth
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: like tenth. I think there was a tenth beer player.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. So see, the thing with them is different.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: All of them have been that have happened within the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: first two games. That's where the challenge comes in.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: But you got fifteen minutes of lacrosse. So I just say,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: expect something, expect something this week. But why it matters is,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: obviously we know what Owen Heineke would be here. He
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: would get a lot of preseason accolades, he would get
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of notoriety, a lot more eyeballs would be
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: on him. He's only got one year of film and
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: as great as special teams players. He was like, the
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: NFL's not doing that. They're going to go get a
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: guy who could potentially be a backup for a backup
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: for a backup. But you bring him back, you give
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: him another year of film. He's going to make more money. Listen,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: dude's smart as hell. So if he has to go
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: professional and something else in football, or if he wants
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: to go a different route and you know, maybe work
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: it that way, that may still be on the case
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: if he ends up going this year.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: But what it does is it gives you.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: That that three person rotation linebacker that you feel really
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: really good about. It also even opens up some opportunity
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: for Cole Sullivan to play some cheetah and then you're
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: rotating some guys in kind of how you saw Samuel
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Masigo do throughout you know, two years ago and then
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: this past year. So I think that that's big because
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: the backup to the backup to the linebackers, back up
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: to the defensive line, those were the big questions for
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: me on this defense. I feel good about defensive back,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I feel great about safety, but we were really thin
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: on those on those front two lines, and so that
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: gives it an opportunity. And rob You're you're right, Robert, like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: but I will say this is Naggy is the one
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: that's putting together the the nil package and the if
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: this wins, I'm pretty sure Naggi wants to see him
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: back here. He wants the best four to zero and
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: and I think that Naggy knows it could be potentially,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: you know, getting him a lot of more notoriety and
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: get him, like you said, some more weights. So as
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: far as the defensive side of the ball, like, I'm
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: still super jacked, Like I think that this defense is
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: going to be great because you've got familiar names that
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: are going to still be making big plays. And then
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: now we're starting to hear some rumblings. Now I'm not basing.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say this defensive line is gonna be
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: as good as last year. But I just I'm all
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: right now I'm at the I don't think there's gonna
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: be much of a drop off from last year me either.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I think that they've prepared for this. Will the mentorship
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: from the other guys, think they prepare for that. Now
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: as we can talk about the linebacker position a little
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: bit more, Oh, we need to also weave in, Robert.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: You had a great question in here earlier that I started,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it's definitely one to really go in.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Is who are gonna who are going to be the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: three to four players that stand out and are pleasant
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: surprises that no one was expecting. I'll grab one from
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: each group D line. I'm gonna say it's probably CJ. Nixon.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I think why Gilmore is probably gonna be the next
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Taylor Wan as BB said, but I think Nixon may
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: come out and show up and be like, oh, now
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: we have to play this guy. We know Kennyosawaaluo is
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be one of those. He's basically been ordained. But
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I think he Nixon could be linebacker Marcus James because
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I think Nessa is gonna be a strong rotational piece.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I think that Marcus James is right there with him,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and they're both freaking huge guys. Like my favorite part
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: about how twenty six is gonna go and how twenty
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: seven should start, We're gonna have two linebackers that are
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: over six four or six to four or above playing
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and it should be starting or at least rotating. Because
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Cole Sullivan sixty three, he's built like Danny Stutsman. Literally
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: literally same size. They're built out the exact same It's
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: very similar. It's kind of terrifying. You're gonna be honest.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Both Nessa and James are about two forty something at
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: six four, and I think James kind of teeters close
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: to sixty five. Look, having huge linebackers is fun because
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: it really makes it hard to get the ball across
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the middle. We have two huge dudes that are also
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: sizey like wait wise to really like fill up gaps.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. I mean, Kobe was six to two,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: kip six to one, but you had two six four
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: dudes right behind there. I think Marcus James could be
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the surpriser on that one.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I would, and I'm gonna go.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Bishop Thomas on the defensive line. We didn't even mention
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: him earlier, but I think Bishop Thomas has, yeah, transfer,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: he's got a lot of experience.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: You know, he's been what was he in Georgia State?
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: His last stop was Georgia State. He's been a time
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: in Colorado, Florida State. He had like four different places
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: that he spent some time.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: He's been around the block. So you get a guy
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: like that who can be a calming influence on things.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: But then also, like we've already seen Brett Vinnables, will
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: rotate dudes in the second series of the game that
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: are like fourth string dudes, and so expect maybe him there.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm with you with Marcus James. I I just
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I love that guy, and I think that I think
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: that him learning to be more of a heady player
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: was that was it. It was all athletic instinct. It's
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: kind of like Danny Okoye. It's just hey, man, seaball
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: get ball well, at linebacker. You can't be that way,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: like you got to have some decent restraint with you.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: And so my hope, my hope is Marcus James becomes
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: what we saw the Crimson missile, you know, kind of trajected,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, in the past. But obviously he
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: got homesick, he leaves, So I think that's that's.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Last season. Oh yeah, god, yeah, everywhere.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: So I mean, those are the guys that I'm that
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, you know, when he comes to safety, I mean,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm really excited to see man Man, really really
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: excited to see a man man.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: He's Robinson, Yeah, and he mentioned he was one at
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: there or they've been trying to find ways to get
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: on the field. Party leaving opens it up specifically for
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: man Man.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: One that I'm actually intrigued by too, when we go
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: there on the defensive side is and I think this
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: one was gonna end up being a breakout player right behind,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: right behind Powers. It's gonna be Nukem. I think Jeremiah
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: nukelemb may even outplay how Davon Jordan play last year,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: because if I'm correct, Nukelem was probably gonna be the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: next dude up until he got hurt after the first game,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and that's when Davon and Jordan came in and he
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: started to give you some good stuff. I can see
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Nukeomb being that guy. He's a stout, stocky dude and
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: fight his whole life, ready to hit people. And like
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I said, he only played the Illinois State game. I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: think he got hurt. He ended up having surgery. He
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: didn't play. That's one that to me could be another
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: one for real.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm with you on that one. You know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Jacoby Johnson has had his chances. His biggest saying was
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: can I turn around and find the ball? And we
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: saw a lot of that out of him. Think that
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: he's the big girl, yea. He he definitely made better, uh,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: you know, better opportunities. But when I when I think
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: about Nukem, I think of Josiah Wagner, And you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Jy Wagner was a guy who leading up to the
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: s and we were hearing a lot of buzz that
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: he might actually be the starter. Going into game one.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: I think he got a little dinged up and then
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: kind of kind of took it away. But Nukem is
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: a guy who is super intelligent. He he's got a
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: little BALLHWK to him. I mean he's he's a short guy,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: but so was Eli and he is going to be
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: a big player when it comes out of that defensive
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: defensive back room, and you're probably going to get him
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: on a lot of slot and so I think that's uh,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: that's that's where it gets gets me kind of excited
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: because he can move. So but yeah, I mean, this
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: defense is going to be an exciting defense to watch.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I really can't wait because you get to Michigan and
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: this defense had them in hell last year.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Agree, I mean they did.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: They did not want to press anything with that young
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: quarterback in Norman. So now he's still shown that he's
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: he's very very susceptible to the interception. He's still shown
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: that he's very very uh, you know, indecisive. And so
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I mean it's new coach, new coaching staff. How does
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: this you know, what's my progress look versus that game
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: in Norman last year. And I think this, this defense
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: is probably gonna be very very very game to go
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: up to Michigan.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be the fun one. We get up to
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Michigan and we're really gonna learn about what the rotation
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: is gonna look like now we already know that Boglanowski
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and Bowen are gonna be fun. I ain't tripping on
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: those two, he Boganowski. I mean, Bowen may actually get
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: more picks Cheetah one hundred percent of Reggie power spot.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you may see. You may see a mixture
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of like I said, Nukelem or Taylor him mixed in there,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: just to give you a extra Hi, you may I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't know if Nesta Nesta
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: could even run something like that. Jacob Curry heard. He's
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: fast enough, he could be very much. But that middle
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: part is gonna be good. And of course you're outside
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: is fine. Kobe Johnson with Courtland Gilliery, Eli Bowen, Tristan Haynes.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: That's probably your four corners right there, hurrying great things
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: about Dakota Fields and his mentality and the how serious
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: he's taken things. That's another one that should be good.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: So defense wise, again, no true concerns. Let's jump in.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Probably should go ahead and talk about, you know, of course,
• 54:32
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• 54:41
  Speaker 1: players do you think we'll have a break out season.
• 54:49
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• 54:51
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• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Where you gonna start.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: It's got to startle the offensive line. We heard some
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: stuff about Amar and Harris being the right tackle. I
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: think that your guard rotation is still not up for
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: grabs because nobody is good enough. But I think that
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: you have a solid set of players who can give
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: you great time. And I'm very happy, very very happy
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Jay to see depth on the offensive line. You know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: we talked to one of the parents last year and
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: it was hard for guys to get healthy because there
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: weren't enough guys to take snaps. So as you're battling
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: something you couldn't I mean, you couldn't afford to because
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: you didn't want to lose your spot in the very
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: very short pecking order. But then you couldn't afford to
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: because you didn't you know, you didn't want to like
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: show the coaches that, like you were not mentally tough
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: enough to do this.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: I think that the it all starts with how does
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: fo Jay and PHASUSI progress? Those guys are five stars
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: for a reason.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: And the question and I can't remember.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: I was listening to somebody while I was doing some
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: work outside the other day and and they brought up
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: the fact that likes there's a lot of people Bill
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Beaateenbow has been the most polarizing coach on this coaching staff,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: you know, for quite a long time now. And that's
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: a tough thing, you know, just kind of like the offense.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: When you saw that twenty seventeen offensive line, that Joe
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Moore Award winning offensive line, you saw those guys, those
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: first rounders come through here, you got to the point
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: where you're like, it's always going to be this way.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Well, we've seen some.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Pretty offensive offensive lines for the past couple of years,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: and a lot of people want to say, all right, listen, Bill,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: this is your year, like you need this. This offense
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: of line was not good last year. It was serviceable.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: And I think that we saw that in the Alabama game.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: We saw that in the Old Miss game. We've seen
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: it in a couple different you know, the Auburn game
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: was a big one. So it starts with ASUSI and FOJ. Sorry, guys,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: you get the five stars, you get the nil, you
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: get the expectations. It's taking a step up to where
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: this offensive line's basement is being good, because if you're
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: just good, we can do a lot. If you're a
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: pretty good offensive line or a very good offensive line,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: this team has everything out in front of them everything.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: If you're a great offensive line, we know what we're
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: talking about at that point.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And it was the actually mentioned hearing the comments about
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: McCullough really getting something out of the running back room,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and that's one hundred percent going to be based upon
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: what this old line looks like a few of you
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: have asked a question in the comments I mentioned it before.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Uk Dan aka dan kN Kumi posted a picture of
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: him in the hospital, so obviously that means he's had
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: some sort of surgery or something where he's going off
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: under a knife or something. That's something we've got to
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: we'll be monitoring. We'll wait and see what BV says
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: this week. It's probably gonna be Tuesday or Wednesday night
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: BV will talk or whatnot, and so we'll find out
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: what the heck's going on there and really be able
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to dive into it. But besides that, he said, Marion Harris,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: at your right, it means Foge can get himself going,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: get himself at the right wait and speed. He can
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: play in tier in exterior. Fasusi needs to get himself right.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Ozaida as well as EPL. And then
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the questions at center, doesna take the job away from Michael?
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: And Michael how you hang on to it? Which Michael
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: was solid when he was healthy. It's gotta keep that going.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: So now I'm curiously how that goes.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: You're You're you're right the offensive line, having a set
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: of guys who've been healthy, but then again having the
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: depth to take a breather.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be big.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: So I mean, if you had to ask me, as
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: of right now you're starting FSUSI, I'm still gonna go
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: with Osaida. I think at that point you have Michael,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: fo j and the Harris. I think that there's a
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: good rotation of Ozaida and EPL. A lot of the
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of the younger guys have been talking about
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: how EPL has been the one that's been helping them
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: progress with their mentality and everything like that. I think
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Ozaida just being healthy again. It is a big deal.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: That's going to be a battle. I would love to say,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: see it just be Epl because I feel like that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: we did better in running the ball when Epl was
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: in there. He was like the only one that was
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: actually like creating push.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Then you talk about the backups, and that's where you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: have Caleb Nitta. That's uh, you know, that's where you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: you know, you hope that uk Dan can get back
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: in there and to get himself into you know.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: The snaps.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: But we got to see this offensive line actually play
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: well because running because of you know.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: You've got to be able to rely.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: It's it's hard enough to play football when you've got
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: to read a defense. Everything is disguised and you don't
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: know what's coming at you. You can go off of film,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: where you can go off of feel, you can go
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: off of indicators, but nobody ever is predicting the right
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: guard just to let somebody come running through, or the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: right tackle just to get blown onto his ass, and
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: you're running back to being the wrong spot for pass
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: pro Like, you can't predict those things, and it's hard
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: to trust a play design and keep your eyes down
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: feel to see open wide receivers if you know that
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: somebody's about to be up in your grill pretty quickly. Now,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: this team was better at pass pro than they were
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: at run. We talked about the usage, We talked about
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: the production of Jeometsier. You need the You need the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: offensive line to come out with an attitude. And that's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: the number one thing I want to see in spring.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Does not matter.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: I don't give a crap who's out there, Jay, I
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: don't care if it's me and you out there playing
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: right and left tackle. I want to see an attitude
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: of putting dudes on their butt, and I don't care
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: if it's this defensive line, like because if you could
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: have some success against this defensive line running, you can
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: do it against anybody, yep. But having the attitude that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. We're giving you one hundred and twenty
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: five percent and you're gonna have to match us. I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: want to see that mentality out of this offensive line.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: That is the one thing I'm hoping that we get
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: out of them as well. I'll go out there, push
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: your current defensive line around some and make sure this
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: defensive line is helping them refine themselves to go up
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: against some of the best. I mean, we had arguably
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: the best one in the country at least an sec
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: at minimum, and it was proven we were stopping the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: run like crazy. Your top runners weren't getting those running
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: yards on us like they was everybody else. I mean,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Justine Hayzen. I think it was the only running back
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: that actually had one hundred yards total in a game,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and that was because he had a seventy five yard
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: touchdown to start the game because our true freshman missed
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: his spot. That happens. That was the second game of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: his career. He was sit in the wrong spot. He
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: made up four for the rest of the season, though,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: didn't he Nobody else was out there doing that. That
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: to me tells you how tough that line was. My hardy,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the nation's top rusher, not even with Prebula out there
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: still being able to scramble around. We don't allow it.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: So that's gonna be on on McCulla and beaten Bow together.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Which the good thing is is that Kevin Wilson and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: McCulla are very close because that was the first job
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: that McCulla got was with Kevin Wilson. They know how
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: to work together and they'll be able to figure out
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: how to get these backs going. And again we got
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: four backs. So if I'm looking at this first off,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: I think Mitam may actually get a lot more snaps
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: than y'all expect, and I think he actually may be
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: pretty effective on the offensive line in that interior, which
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: is always a plus. Standout fors though, Man des Walker
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: is gonna shock everybody. He's already the talk of the town.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: He's very good in past pro and that's usually what
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: gets you on the football field. That's what's important. But
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: whide receiver is where everybody cares the most. It's cool
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: we care more about wide receiver than anything and I'm
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: gonna give you a Bowl win on this one. I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: think Jamichael Carter is gonna end up being one of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: your top wide receivers this season. John Mattier may actually
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: put up a lot more numbers than y'all expect, like
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: a lot. I think he's gonna put up more numbers
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: than he did at Washington State in his best year.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Because I think from Trail to Satania to Jamichael to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Parker living Stone and then everybody else that could come
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: up in et. You know, Elijah Thomas could show out
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: a many choice could show out, Jane Petite could show out.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I really think that Materier's number are gonna fly because
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: these wide receivers are gonna do a great job of
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: getting open in space this year. And I ain't talk
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: about tight ends yet. That's why I think about receiver
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Jamichael Carter is the breakout player for me this season
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver, especially on offense period. Jamichael car is
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: going to be the one. After what he did against
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Alabama the two times he got in the field against them,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I think he's ready. He understands the in ay blocks.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: And here's where I'm Here's where I kind of go
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: with this is we know who Satania is. People are
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: going to early in the season. Satanna is going to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: be the focal point of everything. And we saw it
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: against Alabama. We saw it against LSU when he became
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: the focus, it was all right, how do we get
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: somebody else included into the game. And I think that
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: you need that possession type wide receiver, a big body
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: person that you can see running around out in space.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: And that's why I like Jamarko Carter. I think the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: Treill Harris, we're already hearing those things about him.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Is he is who he is. Uh.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: He came here because of Materr. But I think that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: him and Satania are going to get a lot of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: the the cover shifts, you know, towards them in their areas.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: But I think that I'm with you.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: I would also say that like another big body person,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: if if you have because this just is what it is.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: But if Carter and let's go with a James Pettit
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: or let's go with a main a choice. If those
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: guys are playing the same position and about the same production,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: they're all blocking, if they're all.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Route running, well.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Watch for the young guys too. But I'll go with
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Jamichael Carter and then let's let's go inside because I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: think that you kind of have to go hand in
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: hand with this is the tight ends are gonna have
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: a lots to say with the blocking, but they're also
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: going to have a lot to say with the route running.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: And having two tight ends on the field who can
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: do both is something this offense has not had here recently.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe since twenty eighteen is when it was CALC.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: When it was CALC, you know, before the concussions. That's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: where I'm you know that you got that opportunity to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: be a thread on the blocking side. And if you're
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: in Jay, this is everybody says a tight end is
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: quarterback's best friend, and then they say a running game
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: is a tight end or is a quarterback's best friend.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Both of them involve functional tight ends.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: And so if you can have that opportunity to be
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: to have some enforcement on the running game and then
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: also have the weapons spread out is I don't think
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: that you can really dial down on anywhere specific. And
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: if our buckle is worth the job that he's being
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: paid to do, then he's going to find a way
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: to get guys open. And if you can rely on
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: that offensive line, rely on that run game, material gets
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: to sit back there with an improved offensive line who
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: was decent at pass protecting last year and choose where
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: he wants to go.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have options. Now. The best part about
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: options is that is in the tight end room, Jason Witten. Yeah,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: and the fact that Rocky Beer should be your catcher.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Hate Hinson walked in and said that I'm gonna make
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: this run game better just because you know, good blocking
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: tight ends make everything you know, make that better? Yeah?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: That is that is that right? There is what we've
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: all hoped and dreamed for is to have freaking blocking.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Uh now, I'm sorry, Boomer, sooner once two nine, he
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: will throw double digit interceptions for a second season or
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: almost likely. I'll take that. If we say ten, I'll
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: take the I'll take the over and say about eleven.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: But I don't think he's gonna be reckless. It'll probably
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: be in the heat of a blowout and we're just
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, toying around with things. But I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be as reckless as he was
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: last year. Well, the l issue game is probably the
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: game he's the most reckless n But.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I would just say this with the you have to
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: think you got to think about this way. He had
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: how many this past year?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Uh had ten? Eleven? Me?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Look, and how how many just dead dropped interceptions do
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: you think he got away with? So I think that
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: he will probably end up with the same numbers. Okay,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: so he'll probably end up with the same numbers, but
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: I think that they're not gonna come. I mean like
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: he had a bolt. I mean, how was it five
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: in the past the last two games?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, three three against he'll.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Double his touchdowns too, which is good.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's okay because if it says thirty five
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: and eleven at the end of the season, I think
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: we're all going to be pretty excited about it because
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: gonna also throw some running ones in there too. So
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: that's just I do think that we're going to have
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: more offense. I think that the offense is going to
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: be again, you know, incomplete pass and two you know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: zero yard runs gets him off the field pretty quickly.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: So I think the offense will be on the field
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: a lot more so. I think that with the increased
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: snaps on offense, and then you probably.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: The smarter choices.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the the smarter choices will cut down some of
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: that were ended did in as interceptions, but then somebody's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: going to catch a couple of those. And you can't say,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, outside of that LSU game, you can't really
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: say that like there were a bunch of tipped balls
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. There were a couple of balls
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: that bounced up off of dude's hands and got picked
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: off this past year. It just is what it is.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: But the offense will have more snaps, they will be
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: more effective.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll have three interception games like he
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: did last he had two of them, one of his
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Texas one against LSU. He had five interceptions over the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: lasts just three seven games. Five over the last seven,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: which isn't bad. Which is under one a game. Like
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I said, I expect him to throw one on average
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: a game, So I expect probably twelve for a regular season.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: That is. But as long as when he was healthy,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: he only had he had three hit he threw one.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Illinois State won to Temple one, Michigan won. It was
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: the tip pass is Michigan that almost got picked that
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: we end up tackling a guy. Those are gonna happen.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: But I think it's also going to be because, like
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: you said, not only will we run the ball, well,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: we'll also have a lot of we'll have a lot
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: of a lot more offensive possessions, but I think we'll
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: also have more receivers that's going to fight for balls. Yeah,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, like the back sholder passes that that that
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: one against LSU that got picked, it was kind of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, where he threw it was, but the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: wires you should have offered that well.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: And then Jaron Kannick had the I mean he threw
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: it behind him and it and it kind of bounced.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: And that was the Illinois State game, you know, the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: first first of the year.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm also talking about that past. I think it
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: was Jovannie Gibson is the side he threw it to.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: But he didn't fight for the past, and it was
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: like rent right to the DB's hands. It was like,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to fight for that. That was kind of
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: the here, I'm gonna throw this up there, you go
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't get that.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: So there's just a there's a lot and there's a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: lot of options for this team to get better. And again,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: we start practice in just a few days and you
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: will start hearing, you know, people's names mentioned to motivate them,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: but then also to motivate people around them. And so
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: I would venture to say, you know, be have smiles
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: on your face when you hear a guy. Don't worry
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: about if you don't hear a guy's name. I don't
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: think we're gonna hear a lot about David Stone outside
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: of probably early in the season or leadership.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you hear very much about any
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: of your starters. For the most part, I don't see
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: a reason too, But again we're at that point all right,
• 1:13:10
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• 1:13:13
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