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Weekend Recap after ISU & Iowa wins, Bill Seals talks Cyclones & Nick Athan on the Chiefs · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Bastards, right?
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Good afternoon, Welcome, Miller and Condon.
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The Iowa Sports Radio Network fires back up for the next 6
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hours. Thank you for starting your
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afternoon with myself, Ken Miller, my partner Trent Condon.
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We're going to talk sports with you until 2:00.
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A lot of football on the program here coming up in about 225
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minutes or thereabouts. We'll get our friend Bill Seals.
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He covers Iowa State. Iowa State football program.
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They came to life in a big, big way over Kansas this past week.
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And 3 1/2 hours from now, the ball will be tipped at the
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Mandalay Bay. The arena there is Saint John's
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and Iowa State, part of the players tournament out in Las
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Vegas. So we'll get Bill Seals in here
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on Iowa State to start our guest for the week.
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And then we'll get Nick Athen. He covers the Chiefs, Chiefs
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blitz.com. Chiefs came from behind
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yesterday today to take take care of the Colts in what was a
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pretty good football game. We'll get Nick Athan on that.
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We'll take a preview against to Thanksgiving when the middle
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game of the three on Thanksgiving, the Cowboys will
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host. The Chiefs will double dip with
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Nick coming up at 12:45. Baba Bob Trenton.
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I will take a spin around college football from this past
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weekend. And then Scott Doctorman who was
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in the press box at Kennick on Saturday afternoon.
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He will join us his playoff rankings, his thoughts on what
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he saw at Kennick Stadium. He'll join us at 1:30 Mr. Monday
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night with this pick tonight on San Francisco and Carolina.
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That number last I saw was about 6 1/2 somewhere in that
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vicinity. Let me look and get it exact.
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It's now sevens, 7 1/2. Couple of sevens out there, but
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a lot of 7 1/2. So Niners over a touchdown at
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most places. You called Dowling and Liberty
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on Friday night was a you know what?
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It just seemed like Liberty was up a of class, maybe not fair,
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but they were out physical. Out physical.
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They give her all Trent. I I tip my cap to him to stand
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Chandler's squad. He they tried the you know
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what's off? But Darling is just too big, too
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strong, too fast. And I hope Liberty, you know,
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this is the beginning of a maybe not every year obviously, but I
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don't think this will be the last time they get there.
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I know Darling will be back. But your thoughts before you get
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into what we saw on Saturday? Reese Redding will go down as
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one of my favorite football players to ever watch at the
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high school level. 5 foot nine guy at the biggest school class
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with a team that has an enrollment about half of the big
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schools here, a team that £40 less across the board, across
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both lines and to get to the Championship a year ago, to get
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to the Dome to do that, he is incredible.
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And he wasn't 100% no. You could tell that he got
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injured again, had to leave the game and their backup looked
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pretty. Good, not bad.
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Yeah, what I saw, yeah. He was in there for what,
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probably 2 series? 3 Series I.
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I started to text you and I thought, you know what, you're
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working. I was going to ask is he played
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much during the year? Just a little bit, yeah.
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Yeah, he had some numbers, but mostly in blowouts.
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It wasn't anything, you know, where he was in there in big
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moments. And how about that a big moment
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coming into the state championship game.
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But Dowling Catholic #11 keep running through and it's been a
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while. You know, it's been 7 years
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since they won a or six years since they won a championship
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after they'd ripped, ripped off that long, long streak that they
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had. So good for that group.
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Tom Wilson gets yet another one. A really fun thing to watch too.
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They are aided Jeffrey Roberts on the outside.
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He'll be making his way after playing in high school names one
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year. Dowling now back to Ames with
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Iowa State. He saw that speed definitely
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show up and he'll be part of the part of the Cyclone squad next
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year. But now overall, Dowling was I
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think a lot of people's pick coming into the season and it
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culminates there just one loss to the beginning of the year to
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Valley and that was it. Yeah, it was all Dowling 12th
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straight. They ripped off after.
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That Yeah, see, not before. Good stuff.
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Well, congratulations to all the teams that hit the gridirons
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across the wonderful state of Iowa this past fall.
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And now we move on to basketball.
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So let's move on to football and we'll get to the NFL at some
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point. I'm assuming it's a pretty fun
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day of NFL football yesterday with the exceptional Nate like
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game last night, the Rams just looked like a wagon to me.
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But anyways, more on that coming up.
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Let's start with the two needle movers and we'll do so in the
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order that they played Trent. Iowa State.
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Haven't seen that Iowa State team show up in a long, long
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time. It was really good to see Rocco
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Beck. He did not have his brace on his
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left shoulder. It was his best game by a mile
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in a long, long time. Way to go.
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Rocco Beck bouncing back against a decent Kansas team who was
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fighting for bowl eligibility. But the game was never in doubt.
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17 nothing at the half and and Iowa State goes on to win 38 to
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14. A lot of accolades could go out
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to a lot of guys. Eskeldson couple of touchdowns.
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But story for me was the guy under centre well in the shotgun
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and that's Rocco Beck, who played phenomenal football.
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Because the questions were lingering about his health and
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should he be in there and what is wrong with him because he's
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not the same guy. I'm keep bringing up Cincinnati.
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He looked like Rocco Beck at the beginning of the season, looked
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terrific. Needed that third by the third
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by proves to be the difference as yeah, you're right.
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He looked like a completely different guy.
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You know, there's the conspiracy theories all he's he was
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concussed. Yep, I still can't believe that.
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I don't want to believe. That I can't believe that
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anybody from the coaches to the medical staff to Rocco himself
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would allow him to be out there if he was concussed, to push him
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out there if that was the injury that he had.
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But you mentioned the shoulder harness.
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That makes a whole lot more sense because he got lit up and
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he has not looked like the same guy.
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But that was him. And I also want to say, Speaking
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of the guys, good to see them. You're gonna see Dom Orange be
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able to go out there just, you know, compete his final time at
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Jack Tri Stadium, be able to go out there, get them more than a
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handful of snaps, play basically a full compliment as they're
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rotating a bunch of guys in there.
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But for a guy that has meant so much for a guy that had a
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opportunities coming out of high school, this is one of the
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biggest recruits of the Matt Campbell era.
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But then after he got to Iowa State and there were
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opportunities and there were fully recruitable and there were
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agents that were being contacted.
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Not only that, he could have called last year and been
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drafted in the NFL with his physicals, he would have been at
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minimum the fourth round pick probably that's that's the floor
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of what he could have been even higher than that.
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The way that he would have tested to come back, have that
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moment go off with a good win. That was another guy happy to
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see. Absolutely.
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The linebackers. Bacon was unbelievable.
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His final game. Ebel was great.
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Marcus Neal, he is going. He already is a player.
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He already is a player. I don't know where he's going to
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stack up when his season or his career comes to an end.
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So off they go now to Stillwater to take on a winless Oklahoma
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State team who gave it their all against UCF.
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Had the lead late in that game. I was hoping they would be able
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to put that one in the win column, but I don't think it
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matters. I wish they should outclass
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them. What are they?
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They're better than two touchdowns.
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When the number came out, was it 16?
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It was huge. They are currently as I'm
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scrolling through 13. And a half.
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So it's come down because it did it not open at 16.
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I didn't see what the I don't remember offhand what the opener
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is I'm. Positive if I saw that.
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They Oklahoma State, though is fighting.
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You mentioned what they did opportunity week before.
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They were right there with Kansas State.
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We saw what Kansas State did on Saturday.
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So Oklahoma State finally took a lot longer I think than anybody
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anticipated, but they are improving.
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It should be a cakewalk, but at minimum we said this two weeks
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ago, Oklahoma State, yeah, Iowa State will go down there drill
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even as poorly as Iowa State was playing just because Oklahoma
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State was getting throttled by every just non competitive.
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Not the case anymore. No, it was a real football game.
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You're right, it did open at 14 1/2, so better than two
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touchdowns down to 13 1/2 fourteens now, but we shall see
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in that game is 11:00 on Saturday morning.
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There's something else going on in that time slot, Trent.
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I can't think of Saturday. Morning.
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I can't think. Of the game that is going up.
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You said you said it the game. That's what it, that's what it
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is. There's something else going on
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that's. A tough straw to try, isn't it?
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I'll say that 11 AM game during during Ohio State, Michigan and
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this year, the winning streak for Michigan.
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Ohio State trying to Polish it off.
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What? What am I missing here?
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It's Ohio State, Michigan. That's all you're missing.
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That's it. That is the only thing, and
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we've said it plenty of times in the past, definitively, Ohio
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State is a lot better than Michigan.
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We said it 300 and. 6466 days ago, whatever it was.
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We said the exact same thing and guess what happened?
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Michigan without a quarterback, I know without a guy that could
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throw the football, went in there, not not just won the
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game, went into Columbus. And had them their only loss of
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the year because they go on to win the national championship.
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Well, they had one other before that.
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That's why they were in the Big 10 Championship game.
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Without 2 What beat Ohio State? Oregon.
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Was it Oregon? Oh no, maybe they had.
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It was Oregon because they beat him in the playoff.
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They got the revenge in the playoffs.
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That's what it was out in Eugene.
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No, I'm remember. It was.
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It was the running the clock thing late there was that the
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Oregon like killed some time. Oh, I remember.
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You beard. Yeah, there was something weird
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happening and loophole in the rule that Landing had found and
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they were able to do that. It was something regardless.
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I think, and I probably said this before I, I think Ohio
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State's going to open a can, but we'll, we'll wait till Wednesday
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to get our picks. The numbers down to 10.
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Please stay there if you'd like dip to 9 1/2.
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It's AI, see a 9 1/2 somewhere. Oh boy.
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Oh there is ESPN bet. Are they still in business?
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They are for now, but I think it's closing soon.
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Right. Yeah.
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But yeah, there is a nine and a half out there.
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Anyways, let's go to the afternoon game where Iowa and
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Michigan State were putting on what I was going to say, putting
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on a show. I don't know what the I I mean,
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obviously it's coaching malpractice out of Jonathan
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Smith to kicked Kaden Wegen not once, not twice, but three
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times. They wanted to challenge
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themselves. Well, yeah, I don't work out an
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idiot. What an idiot.
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If I was a Michigan State fan, I'd be apoplectic.
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And here's the thing, I don't think they can fire him because
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they're still playing off Mel Tucker, right?
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Well, there is still legalese that is happening there.
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Well, they're not paying the full freight, I don't believe on
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that. And I don't know if they're
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paying hardly anything on that. Well, it's still it's still not
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up to them. It's going to be up to a judge
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to decide what you're paying, but you're still paying them.
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But this is just awful football. It really and truly was that you
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would kick to a guy who just what a weapon trend.
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I know it's him and Tim Dwight, and I think it depends on when
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you were born and how old you were as as to who your guy is
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going to be. It kind of comes back to, you
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know, Jordan, LeBron, you know, it depends.
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When you were watching sports, look at it's a wonderful
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conversation to have because they're both in rarefied air.
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Do you remember the knock on Dwight as a returner?
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I want to see, I want to take you back into the recesses of
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your. Mind, because the fact that the
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knock. Because we forget.
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About the He was small. Yes, but we forget about the
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knocks. We forget about the things that
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would drive you crazy. It was how many times that he'd
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lose yards on punt returns trying to do things.
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I don't remember that. That was always the knock on Tim
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Dwight. Yeah, you get those explosive
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plays, but he also might get one where he catches up to 20 and
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you're ended up backing up at your own 5 because he's going
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backward trying to make a play. And Wegen has had a couple of
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rough moments himself. The Iowa State game.
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And there was one other. Had a fumble against Oregon
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because they're in the red zone and had a fumble in that one.
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So we probably remember more the wegen things now we forget about
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the Tim Dwight. It's always the greatest right
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and that's but it also goes the other way.
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It's not the latest, it's the greatest.
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It's you remember, not all the high moments, but some of the
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low, but there were also low moments with Tim Dwight.
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They're both incredible. They're both guys and how Lavar
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Woods is able to find these guys and then put together special
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teams year after year after year.
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When you think of the returns they've had just here recently,
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Amir Smith, Marcette more of kick return, but he was ousting.
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How about Desmond King? They finally put him back there.
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How good he was in the return game.
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They had a pretty good Charlie Jones.
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Yeah, before he departed over to Purdue.
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And then who took his spot? He was pretty good too if
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memory. Serves Yeah, Cooper, the chief.
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Yeah, that would be him. Yeah.
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It's just. Time after time after time how
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good they've been. Here's something for the.
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Luxury, by the way. Before Lavar Woods came in to be
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the special teams coordinator, they were awful for about a
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three-year stretch. And it was he was the linebacker
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coach and I can't remember his name now off the top of my head,
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but he was a special teams core and I would RIP him week after
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week after week. This would have been like in the
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probably 2010, 1112 range, something like that.
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Special teams for Iowa. Remember the kickers mostly good
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throughout the Kirk Ference tenure, but some of their
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special teams were awful. Levar Woods, that dude and you
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see him after the game with your Stevens to see him.
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Did you see him after the punt return return for a touchdown on
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the sideline? He was coming up the sideline
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and he got about to the 10. Not supposed to be that deep
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down into the. Field, but nobody's.
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Painted how excited he was for that.
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Iowa is incredibly lucky to have Lavar Wood, no question, because
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when you're programmed, that has the offensive deficiencies as
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we'll get to, you have to close the gap.
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And what he has done here over the last 12 years has been
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nothing short of remarkable. It's not just the kickers, it is
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all of it all-encompassing. This year, even with a bad
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punter, special teams are still a plus for Iowa.
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No doubt the officiating the game, both both teams were
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fortunate to get a huge break in the football game.
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So you can't really, you know, bitch either way about that.
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I thought clearly the tight end left, way too right.
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And it gets set up on the five. And then the umpire got in the
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way. Was it Luttmer that was in
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coverage late in the football game on Michigan State's final
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drive? Yeah.
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And, and the umpire, I mean, he had to dock and he and he didn't
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see the, the, the defensive. There was a back judge that
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could have thrown a flag. I don't know where he was.
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I don't know if he was close or if he was paying attention to
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it, but so I don't want to hear anything about the officiatings
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part of it. Both teams got lucky, both teams
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got breaks in that one. But what do you what what's your
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take or what did you watch? How many yards passing did Iowa
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have through 3/4? Was it 50 or 30?
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Ugly, whatever it is, I don't have it off hand, but it was
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brutal and we talked about the props that are up outside the
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state of Iowa A. 130 something wasn't.
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It it was one spot was 146 1/2. Oh my.
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You see what Gronowski finished with 147.
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One Oh my God, did he really? He.
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Did I think it was FanDuel that had 146 and a half 40?
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7. Yeah, and he finishes with 147
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in his football game. You want that guy with the
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football, with the game on his line, you do.
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But before that, it's the same thing.
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It's the same thing from game one.
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He's too amped up, he's too charged.
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He can't make simple. Because it was his last.
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Game in Kennington, I guess. I guess I thought he was past
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this. The working theory I guess has
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to be that because he looked brutal again.
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I don't know what it is. I have no idea the way that he
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is wired and but we have this, I mean, we have plenty.
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And he talked about it after that Albany game that he does.
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He gets too charged up. And I think both Kirk and Tim
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Blester, I think mentioned at 1.1 of the interviews we heard
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with Lester throughout the course of the season.
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Well, if you know that, why don't you run him a couple of
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Times Now? Why don't you just set up a
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couple of quarterback powers and get him hit?
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Because it feels like he's got to get knocked around a little
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bit before he shakes out, whatever that is.
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Why don't you make that part of the game clan?
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Because guess what? Nebraska and that pass defense,
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they're going to be ready to go. I think Nebraska, he's going to
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be ready to go, Trent, because Matt Rule called him out, called
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him soft. Yeah, well, they were.
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They were. Absolutely they were.
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That was a hideous it. Was what what other college game
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away from these two? Did any of them resonate?
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Mean Georgia. Tech Cup beat.
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I might have to do a mayor culpa with Oklahoma now.
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Missouri probably shouldn't have been out there.
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He did not look good. But that defense, that Oklahoma
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defense, is so. They're legit and.
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I don't know if Meteor can get continue to get better.
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I don't know if he's kind of stacking or he just is what he
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is right now coming off that hand injury and you know, before
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he has some time to kind of rest and recover.
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But if it is, I mean, he's got dudes on the outside.
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There's some wide receivers on that Oklahoma team you look at
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and they make a couple of plays and they have one of them on
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Saturday. Oklahoma about middle of the
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year, put a bet in for them not to make the College Football
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Playoff because I just I didn't like the path.
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But with that defense, Oklahoma, Not that they can win a national
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championship. I don't think so.
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I don't. Think so either.
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But in the first round, can they beat a really good team in the
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quarterfinals with that defense? I think the answer is yes, and I
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didn't think that maybe until this past weekend.
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What'd you make of Notre Dame? I didn't watch.
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I didn't either, but they won 70 to 7.
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Yeah, Syracuse. Well, they're up 21.
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Nothing before they take an offensive.
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Snap. Is that what it was?
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Wasn't there a 70 to 7 Iowa State game?
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Was it 77 to 7? It was Baylor, I'm pretty sure.
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Oh, that sounds right. Yeah, I.
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Think it was 70 to 7. So it's 21, nothing on a pick 6A
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putter turn and another Pick 6 before they take a snap.
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Syracuse is playing with their fifth string quarterback, a
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lacrosse player, and he looked like a lacrosse player.
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Does that tell us anything? No.
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No. Does it change?
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Should it change the equation? No, but I think that they were
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clearly trying to, they, they knew that they were playing no
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one and it wasn't going to help. And the only thing that they
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could do to maybe get the committee's attention was to lay
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a whoopet on somebody, whether it helps or not.
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I mean, those people in there are humans.
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I don't know whether it will or whether it won't.
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How about Illinois? That was a head scratcher to me.
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I watched the end, so the Iowa State game before the Iowa game
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started, I flipped on the Big 10 network so I could watch the end
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of the Northwestern game, and I thought Northwestern blown it.
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I thought Minnesota's going to find a way, big kick return to
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set him up and they tie the game in off the overtime.
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But Northwestern and Preston Stone at QB getting the job
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done, so that was good. Do you want to see BYU in the
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playoff? Do I want to see BYU in the
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playoff? Take away getting two Big 12
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teams in there. If they upset anybody, whoever
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that final team is, it might be Miami.
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I just, I don't like watching a play.
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Yeah. A back Meyer Yeah, he's a tough
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SOB. It's probably style of play kind
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of thing. I just.
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Are they going to knock out an ACC team?
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No, I I mean just just in general, do you want to see BYU
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against Georgia? Is that you get revved up?
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No. Would you rather see Miami
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against? No, but I don't want to see
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James Madison against Georgia. Yeah, you're, you're that way.
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I I can't stand that. I mean, what?
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Why are we playing this sport if you're going to say that 75% of
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the teams can't even compete for a championship?
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OK, but did legit and. Realistically, you want to see
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an NCAA tournament with just 64 power conference teams, too.
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How many times does AI mean it happens to get to a Final four
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right? I don't know.
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And in this scenario would just be pulling a upset.
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We've had one year and you're ready to kick him out.
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I hate that. I absolutely despise that line
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of. Things, well, you just want to
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kick BYU out for crying out. Loud I do because I don't think
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that they're good. There needs to be a path though
19:21
for everybody else in the sport to be able to.
19:23
But that's. Not everybody else.
19:25
That's only one team out of the Group of Five.
19:27
Sure, but everybody has a path. You go 13 and O, you're going to
19:30
be there. Everybody has a path to get
19:32
there. I don't like taking that away.
19:35
That's a different conversation than a team from the Big 12
19:38
getting in. In your mind in my mind we'll
19:42
agree to disagree on this one. Let's we've got coming up here
19:46
we've got Bill Seals in here Iowa State.
19:48
This tournament begins in Las Vegas today.
19:50
I I can't wait I think it's going to be great television.
19:53
I can think it's going to be great theater.
19:54
I do wish that they had more of an idea how they're going to you
19:58
know, match up their championship games etcetera
20:01
because the the score differential thing it just
20:04
doesn't do it for me the competition I think is going to
20:07
be fascinating both today and tomorrow.
20:10
So we'll. See that I think have the game
20:12
started already? Yeah.
20:14
If they haven't, yeah. If they haven't, they're about
20:16
to. There are games going on right
20:17
now. I don't know if there are any of
20:18
the Vegas ones. Tennessee, Rutgers is happening
20:21
right now. Yeah.
20:21
That's in Vegas, yeah. That's why I thought underway
20:24
and Iowa State today at 3:30 against Saint John's.
20:28
We'll get Devon in here. They'll go to break, come back
20:30
with Bill Seals, Nick Athens still to come on the Chiefs who
20:33
survived against the Colts, and they'll get the Cowboys who also
20:35
survived coming back from down 21 to zip in that football game.
20:39
Hi, Devon. Hey, guys.
20:42
Yes, Speaking of the Speaking of the Cowboys, just want to make a
20:44
quick comment. What a game.
20:46
I mean, I know I called in last week asking and like you guys
20:48
think it's Prescott top five. He's top five in my book and I
20:51
think he proved it in the second-half.
20:53
I want to talk a little bit Hawkeyes as well.
20:56
One quick comment I have. I was at the game, I had row
20:59
one, I was underneath the goal post that Drew Stevens kicked
21:01
the game winner. In.
21:03
Really, really fun. But why is it that they they
21:07
don't lock in like with the wide receivers until it matters, like
21:09
with Reese Vandersee made that amazing catch like why would?
21:13
I be more. Involved, in my opinion, in
21:15
throughout the entire game. When this passing game is
21:18
struggling. I remember Konowski talked about
21:19
how Reese Vandersee is like his scapegoat in a way.
21:22
It's like the one guy he trusts. So why?
21:24
Why wait till late in the game when it matters?
21:26
Get him involved. Great win good from Drew Stevens
21:29
on senior day. And lastly, if I don't talk to
21:31
you guys within the next two days, Happy Thanksgiving to both
21:34
you and your families. Got one.
21:36
Yeah. And thanks for the kind words.
21:38
Absolutely. Great question, Vanders.
21:40
It's a hell of a It was a hell of a catch.
21:42
It really was, Phillips. Hell of a catch early in the
21:44
football. Game and we felt like, all
21:45
right, this is going to be the game.
21:46
This past defense is terrible. They're going to Chuck the ball
21:48
around. Gradowski wasn't good and I
21:50
guess they had to tighten up the strings, if you will, during the
21:53
game until it got late there. But this is just a Michigan
21:56
State game thing. This is week after week after
21:58
week. You, you watch a Mac game, watch
22:01
the Sunbelt game, there's guys running around and you're
22:03
telling me that Iowa can't scheme up a way to get any of
22:05
their wide receivers open? You can't catch more than 50
22:08
passes in a year? I mean, that's the top watermark
22:10
that you can have. I don't believe it.
22:11
What did you think of the quarterback?
22:13
It won't say his name. Well, well, try.
22:14
No, I'm not even going to try. What did you think of Smarty's
22:16
quarterback? He's all right.
22:17
He's OK, right? He's all right.
22:19
That's what I thought. He's tough.
22:20
Yeah. Quick kick.
22:22
Now, one thing about I I got to bring this up back to the I
22:25
would say, oh, we got to get Bill Seals, but did you see the
22:29
play where the punt went over the puncher's head?
22:31
Yes. Yeah, he's a right.
22:32
Footed kicker. Yes.
22:34
He kicked with his left foot, didn't he?
22:35
Yes. I thought it was.
22:37
Am I losing my mind? Because when he did that and
22:39
then I was like, what? Did they have a different punter
22:41
in there? I thought the exact same thing.
22:43
That was incredible. Watch this guy kick with his
22:45
right foot up until this point. And he got a great.
22:47
He did. Now we got a good role.
22:49
But you know what? Sure.
22:50
Yeah, who cares what that kind of?
22:51
Pressure. Oh my God, that was one of the
22:53
more incredible things of the weekend.
22:55
Really wild Iceland. Thinking to myself, your eyes
22:58
playing tricks on you Anyways, Bill Seals next.
23:02
Miller and Condon underway. Glad you're with us on the Iowa
23:04
Sports Radio Network. I'm Mory Condon.
23:09
Welcome back. 12:30 on a Monday. Iowa State, St.
23:14
John's, 3:30 this afternoon. Either TBS or TNT.
23:18
Do you know which one off hand, Trent, of those two, don't?
23:21
No. One of those two.
23:22
Or is it maybe true? Well, it's one of the TS they're
23:25
involved with broadcasting this term.
23:27
If you can't be in front of your TV, of course you can.
23:28
Listen to it down the hall from us.
23:30
TRU TV. TRU TV.
23:31
Thank you, Sir. 100.3, the bus. Let's get Bill Seals in here.
23:35
Cyclonereport.com as he joins us.
23:38
Bill, Trent. Ken, thanks for coming on.
23:40
How are you, Bill? Oh, it's been a busy day, guys.
23:44
But yeah, this week's going to probably fly by.
23:47
So just getting ready for a a big first game for Iowa State
23:52
and the Players Era Festival. As you see, it's been a busy
23:55
morning of football recruiting. I'll say.
23:57
Good to see some more pop in here.
23:59
So yeah, just and then a final regular season football game on
24:04
Saturday, so going to be quite a week.
24:06
No, no doubt about it, they'll go take on winless Oklahoma
24:09
State team. Let's go back to Saturday before
24:12
we talk a little hoops. Obviously it was great to see
24:15
this has looked like the five and O Iowa State team, at least
24:18
the team you know, before they went to where they go Arkansas
24:21
State late, late to get to 5 and O they've had some good wins
24:25
obviously prior to that. But then for whatever reason,
24:27
whether it be injuries or something kind of knocked this
24:30
team off its path. They got back on it this past
24:32
weekend, maybe most one of their most complete games of the year.
24:35
Bill Seals. How about that?
24:38
Yeah. I tell you, yeah, I think you
24:39
could. It was hard to tell the first
24:41
couple by weeks, you know, progress how that was coming out
24:44
of those. But I think you could really
24:47
stay coming out of this third by week, you could definitely tell
24:51
there it was a tangible effect on this team.
24:53
It was just a totally different one than what we had seen go
24:57
even going into it. I obviously the the TCU game
25:00
they were able to win, but often kind of one in spite of the
25:04
offense, especially the the passing game in that one or able
25:08
to come out with a win. But gosh, look like an entirely
25:11
different team out there against Kansas.
25:14
I think they started off the game, really set the tempo in
25:17
the way that they needed to set the tempo they get.
25:20
I think it was the 1st 4 plays of the game that three of them
25:23
were Carson Hanson runs for nice chunks of yards.
25:27
And I think that helped Rocco get settled in and he completed
25:31
his first ten passes and he had completed nine against TCU and
25:36
then already had more than that early on in the second quarter
25:39
against Kansas. So I think just All in all, a
25:41
very complete effort out of this team.
25:44
Speaking of complete efforts, you know, last year the big
25:46
story was all the linebacker injuries killed Brazina as a
25:49
star. That dude and he's got
25:51
eligibility still in front of him as he in your mind, evil has
25:56
had moments. We've seen Caleb Bacon and that
25:58
steady senior. But Brazina when you're talking
26:00
about upside can can he elevate and become a guy we're talking
26:04
about going into next season? Hey this dude, he might be first
26:06
second team all Big 12 next season.
26:09
Well, he's certainly got that potential.
26:11
I think the one thing about him now is is he's healthy.
26:14
And I think the bye week with him, you know, you played going
26:18
into the bye week, but I think of getting, getting off his feet
26:21
for a little bit helped him and and he really looked looked the
26:24
part, I think, against The Jayhawks.
26:26
So, yeah. And you look at this whole
26:28
linebacking crew, Caleb Bacon was not one of those seniors
26:33
recognized for senior. I think that they've got it.
26:37
They've got a medical hardship for him or medical red shirt for
26:41
him for the 2024 season. So that'll mean Iowa State has
26:45
all three linebackers returning, all starting linebackers
26:49
returning. You know, they're trying to add
26:51
1 in the JUCO ranks right now. They've got like four other ones
26:54
that that have played. So this group again and and if
26:59
they can stay healthy, you got to be, you look at this group as
27:02
one of the best linebacking cores in the Big 12 coming back
27:06
in in 2026. No doubt about it, Kyle Conradie
27:11
continues to make me look really bad every time he takes the
27:13
field. I was not the biggest Conradie
27:15
guy. My God, he's he's he can the
27:19
distance behind his kicks. Obviously they trust him.
27:22
Over 50, what a year. He has had had some moments as a
27:25
freshman, but his sophomore campaign has been unbelieved.
27:29
Believable and what a difference.
27:31
You know, maybe Bill, we were talking earlier about this, you
27:33
know, that kind of downturn in the season.
27:36
Maybe it coincides with Conradis injury as much as anything.
27:39
How about that? Yeah, I mean, it changed a lot
27:43
about not not just the Iowa State special teams that have
27:46
changed a lot of what they did offensively too.
27:49
And I think that you look at the the adjustments that they had to
27:52
make and they had to do them with a passing game that was
27:57
pretty inconsistent. I think just the the wide
27:59
receivers and Rocco not on the same page.
28:03
So they had to make some adjustments there.
28:05
I think at that point, the run game hadn't even really found
28:08
its stride like it it has over the last several weeks either.
28:12
So they Kim coming back is is really kind of coincided with
28:16
the the the this this team kind of seeming to make its turn now
28:22
going into the stretch run and kind of like the chances against
28:25
Oklahoma State. But yeah, the 55 yarder by Ken
28:29
Rardy against Kansas, his fifth kick of 50 plus yards in his
28:34
career. And that's pretty remarkable
28:35
when you're talking about someone kicking most of the time
28:39
in Jack Trice Stadium. You see what the the wind can do
28:42
in that place. Big afternoon of basketball as
28:45
Iowa State gets ready for St. John's ranked match up, and we
28:49
thought maybe we'd learn a little more bit more against
28:52
Mississippi State. They dominate.
28:53
Mississippi State doesn't look great at this moment, certainly
28:56
in terms of talent. This is going to be a step up
28:58
here with the St. John's team.
28:59
What have you been able to earth against the Johnnies and Patinos
29:02
Company? Well, they're pretty close to
29:04
Iowa State and Iowa State, the the AP poll just came out, Iowa
29:09
State climbed one spot up to 15th.
29:12
I believe it was St. John's 14th in that and and
29:16
really I think 2 contrasting styles.
29:19
Although you look at at the red storm and the Cyclones, they're
29:23
the two highest scoring teams on average in this players era
29:26
festival. Saint John's one, Iowa State 2.
29:30
But these are really two contrasting styles.
29:33
I think in in tempo. Saint John's a top ten team and
29:38
adjusted tempo in in the country according to Ken Palm, Iowa
29:41
State quite a few spots lower there in the the hundreds there.
29:45
So I think that these two teams kind of get their points maybe
29:49
in different ways. Obviously Iowa State is going to
29:52
try and and and maybe slow this high tempo team and in St.
29:56
John's down and and really defend them a hard but yeah,
30:00
it's a unique matchup for what Iowa State is is maybe faced so
30:04
far. So going to be a big test.
30:07
You know, the red storm led by the the the big Big 12, the the
30:13
Big East preseason player of the year.
30:17
He he's back after Zubi. I'm going to probably butcher
30:21
his last name, Zubi edge of four.
30:25
He's the the preseason player of the year in the big E 15 points,
30:30
66.3 rebounds per game. I believe he was second in the
30:35
Big East in in rebounding a year ago.
30:38
So he's going to be a formidable match up.
30:41
I think inside for the Cyclones that that's been a group, you
30:45
know, beyond Joshua Jefferson will, you know, we'll see what
30:48
we we get day in and day out from the other guys there, but
30:53
certainly, certainly formidable there for for them to to face
30:57
him. So also four other guys in
31:00
double figures. They bring Ian Jackson off the
31:02
bench at 14 1/2 points per game, so I think you look up and down
31:07
this line up the balance, it's pretty easy to see how they come
31:10
up with almost 99 points a game out of this group. #24 that's
31:15
how I say his name. That's we'd be watching for him
31:19
on television. I sound like a broken record.
31:21
But sure love to see him get that shooting eye going and, you
31:24
know, contribute because we knew we've seen him do it before.
31:26
We know that he's, it's part of his game.
31:28
I love to see him have a good shooting week out in Las Vegas.
31:32
Yeah, I think so, especially in a game like this where it could
31:36
be a a higher, higher scoring affair.
31:39
Yeah, you definitely want to want to see Milan kind of catch
31:44
it, catch, catch fire early, shooting the ball.
31:46
It seemed like it came around a little later.
31:48
The last time out. He had, I believe, all but two
31:52
of his points, two of his 616 points.
31:56
I want to say that he had the the last time out for the
31:59
Cyclones against Stone Hill all came in the second-half.
32:03
So probably get a better, maybe get a better start out of him,
32:07
get him going in a different arena out there in Las Vegas.
32:11
And and who would have thought Damon Lipsy, the leading scorer
32:14
going into this week at 19 a game.
32:17
So between Lipsy, Jefferson, Munchilovich, I think more than
32:24
replaced what, you know, what we've seen so far.
32:26
A lot of the talk was replacing Gilbert and and Curtis Jones's
32:30
numbers from a year ago, but this team's averaging even more
32:33
points and those have not been hard to come by so far.
32:37
No, no question about it. I want to see Blake you can and
32:39
have a good tournament out there as well because I think I think
32:42
he's a big addition to this roster.
32:44
Bill Seals cyclonereport.com cyclonereport.com As Bill said,
32:48
busy week with all the recruiting news.
32:50
So real quick, Bill, we got like 30 seconds, if you can, in 30
32:53
seconds. Who did Matt Campbell land
32:55
today? Yeah, just this morning he
32:58
landed that second tight end that he'd been looking for in
33:02
the in this class, Arlie Morrell.
33:05
He comes by way of Pratt, KS, a nice addition.
33:08
And then Cash Brock, half brother of Conrad Holly.
33:12
Actually, we're just talking basketball.
33:14
Well, his half brother played basketball.
33:18
Cash Brock out of Arizona, he is going to play wide receiver.
33:22
They've got three at that position now.
33:24
I think they feel good there. Maybe some more here in the next
33:28
couple days to Tate and Duncan, a safety out of Oklahoma, they
33:32
feel real good about him. West Virginia was another
33:35
official visit stop. I think it's down between the
33:38
Cyclones and Mountaineers there. So I don't think Iowa State done
33:41
yet with those 21 known commitments in the 2026 class.
33:46
Great. I love the offensive lineman,
33:47
the 27 class that committed it, one of the tailgate right
33:50
that's. Awesome.
33:52
Good for him. Good stuff.
33:53
Bill Seals, we will speak with you next Monday.
33:56
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, Bill.
33:57
Thank you. You guys as well.
33:59
Have a good week, yeah? Good to talk to you, Bill Seals,
34:01
as we check in on Iowa State. All right, the Chiefs in the
34:04
spotlight next, Nick Athen. Chiefs come back to beat the
34:08
Colts. They will head to Dallas to take
34:10
on the Cowboys. Nick Athen, she splits next on
34:13
Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
34:19
I'm Mallory Condon. Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
34:22
Network hour number two, Bama. Bob Trenton.
34:24
I will take a spin around the weekend at college football.
34:28
Then Scott Dockerman covers college football for the
34:30
Athletic. He was a Kinnock on Saturday.
34:33
Get his thoughts on that look ahead as well.
34:35
Mr. Monday night will make his play on tonight's Monday night
34:38
affair, the Niners and the parents.
34:41
Well, Nick Athen, clear your throat, brother.
34:44
Good to speak with you and they pulled it out.
34:48
I got to give them credit. That's the the heart of a
34:50
champion. This Cowboys game when the
34:53
schedule came out looked oh, this can be this can be easy
34:56
Cowboys can't stop anybody Cowboys defense is better now
34:59
Cowboys have an offense. This can be a good game.
35:01
But before we get to that, let's recap what we saw yesterday.
35:05
What did So what? What was your take away from
35:08
watching the overtime victory well?
35:13
My take away was I should just know better that if you doubt
35:17
Patrick Holmes, it's just full of gold.
35:20
Yeah, he's going to miss here and there.
35:21
But with the season on the line in the back against the wall, I
35:24
mean, this kid was phenomenal for what he had to face.
35:28
Luena Romo has had his number and thankfully, he changed the
35:32
code of the defense in the fourth quarter in overtime that
35:35
allowed the receivers to get in the middle of the field.
35:37
But I listen it it it it showed their heart.
35:42
It showed their grit. It showed that Patrick Holmes
35:46
just wasn't going to lose to the Colts at home to be a playoff
35:49
elimination game. He he did everything in his
35:52
power to make it work. And the defense was based on
35:55
what it had to be. And I think when you, if you're
35:58
if you're a churches fan, sure you had doubt, but we've doubted
36:02
Mahomes before and what's he done for the most part?
36:05
You know, he's probably got an 80% clip he's going to come
36:08
through. And I think we just need to
36:09
start enjoying that a little bit better.
36:11
So, oh, down 20 to 9, things are just not going well.
36:15
We do this in this industry. It doesn't matter if you're a
36:18
writer, you're a talker. You're starting to come up.
36:20
What am I going to say after and what it looked like maybe it was
36:23
going to go wrong. Did you have something in the
36:25
holster, something ready and and what you were going to do?
36:28
Maybe the dynasty is whatever it was.
36:30
Did you have that ready? Or is it all optimism all the
36:32
time? Oh hell yeah, I was ready.
36:34
I was about halfway through my article too, and it was that,
36:39
you know, it was. Listen, the offense is stale.
36:42
Andy's lost touch. You know, you, they just don't
36:45
have enough. The coaches are failing.
36:48
Pastor Holmes is not that that quarterback anymore.
36:52
You know, Chris Jones can't make a play in the fourth quarter.
36:55
I mean, I just went down the whole gambit and said, OK, I
36:58
actually started. I actually started looking at
37:00
the NFL draft and just kind of started to look at you.
37:03
OK, we'll see. They need a tight end though.
37:05
I think Travis is going to come back.
37:07
They're going to need a young tight end.
37:09
They definitely need a running back to Damian Pierce.
37:11
Might solve that problem. Who knows what Damian Pierce
37:13
we're going to get, but I think you know, all the things that
37:18
would go through the mind of someone who's followed this team
37:20
that he was six years old and I was just like I've told you guys
37:25
on the show before. I went 50 years.
37:28
I got 3 Super Bowls and then I'm still kicking.
37:30
You know, I'm above ground. I'm I'm getting to watch these.
37:33
I'm good. I don't have any more room on my
37:35
shelves for anymore memorabilia. I'm good, but then when they
37:40
don't play up the expectations, it just kind of grinds in you.
37:42
It's like, you know, the, the, the chalkboard thing.
37:45
So yeah, I was writing them off. I would have thrown a lot of
37:48
stuff out today and probably got in a little bit of trouble, but
37:52
I was willing to go there for my team.
37:55
I still think they need to make a lot of changes in the
37:57
offseason. But for now, Tash Mahomes is
38:00
just, I'm not doubting him anymore.
38:03
I'm just not going to do it till he retires.
38:06
Yeah, he was when he needed to be at his best.
38:09
He was at his best, no doubt about that.
38:11
Late in the football game, fighting this guy's Rice.
38:14
Although I don't know why Rice went down on his own when the
38:17
the game was. Time.
38:18
He had a hamstring. Is that what it was he?
38:21
Was playing on borrowed time. He did not want to snap that
38:24
there or stretch that that hamstring any further.
38:26
And that some of it was cramps too.
38:29
But yeah, he he wasn't listed on the medical afterwards.
38:32
So I think he's going to be OK for Thursday because that's a
38:34
homecoming game for him, too. Yeah, what about, Oh no.
38:36
Gray on the other hand, he had to been listed, right?
38:39
I mean, I'd be shocked if he can answer the bell Thursday.
38:42
Yeah, I think we might see Jared Wiley finally get active on the
38:46
on the on the game roster. We haven't seen him for over a
38:50
year. He's been dealing with an ACL.
38:53
We thought he was back, but he wasn't ready.
38:55
So I think that you may see him, but I don't expect no Gray to
38:59
play on Thursday. Do you think this team is going
39:02
to finish in at a minimum be a playoff team, or was there
39:04
enough cracks in the armor yesterday that still leaves you
39:07
concerned? Well, I think there's, I think
39:09
there's enough cracks in the armor because you know, I'm
39:13
going to go out on a limb here, guys, I'm going to surprise you.
39:16
I think the Colts are going to miss the playoffs.
39:18
The Colts are going to miss the playoffs.
39:19
The. Colts are going to miss the
39:21
playoffs. I think Jacksonville's been
39:23
winning. Lucky, right?
39:25
I mean, it's, it's they're, they're just playing not bad
39:31
enough to lose and just good enough to win.
39:33
And those those wins pile up. The Colts have to play the
39:37
Texans twice, and Texans are the one of the hottest.
39:39
I think they're the best team in the AFC, Nick, but that's just
39:42
me. Yeah, I think as far as the
39:44
Colts go, right. No Texans.
39:47
Texans, OK, that defense, they got to play the Texans twice.
39:50
They're going to play Jacksonville twice and they got
39:53
San Francisco and Seattle in there.
39:55
I'm sorry, the Chiefs threw out the blueprint yesterday.
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I think they're going to be hard pressed and win the division
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now. You know, I think that the
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Steelers in the in the Ravens are interesting.
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They still have to play each other.
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The Steelers have a pretty difficult schedule with the
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Ravens. You know, they they got their
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second three-game home stretch in a row.
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It's just ridiculous. How do you schedule makers put
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these things together? But then I look at the Chargers,
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I'm not too worried about them. The Broncos, I don't think
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they're going to blow it. I, I just don't, I, I, I think
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they're going to win the division.
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I'm not sure they can get the, they're not going to get the top
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seed. That's going to go to the
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Patriots. Now the Patriots lost their
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starting tackle. So that that that could be
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pretty significant. Yeah, but not for the year
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though, apparently. Yeah, apparently not.
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Right. So get them ready for the
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playoffs. Don't worry about the regular
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season. You got this one in the back.
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The Bills, I'm not sure they're going to make it either.
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So. I think I think if you look at
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all that and the Chiefs play the Texans, they play the Chargers,
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they play the Broncos, they get the Titans and they have the
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Raiders. So you know, they got enough to
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where if they win those games, they're going they're going to
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qualify. I think, I think 10 win.
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I think 10, probably 11 is going to ten wins is going to get you
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the last seed and 11 probably get you the, you know, 60.
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But I think they're going to make the playoffs.
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Their chances will not significant.
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Even if they don't play well against the Cowboys, it's an NFC
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loss and I think still think they have enough.
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You're out, you're at Tennessee, you're at Las Vegas.
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So there's a couple. Nick.
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Happy Thanksgiving, buddy. We're out of time.
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We'll talk to you next week. Thank you, Nick.
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Catherine. All right, guys, See you, bud.
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