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- 0:02Speaker 1: Peedo Krandler live on Sky's Australia.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I feel a lot safer if Alexander Downer was back
- 0:10Speaker 2: in the job today. Welcome to the show. Here's what's
- 0:12Speaker 2: coming up tonight on Kredlin. The Muslim independent candidate let's
- 0:16Speaker 2: running against Labour's Tony Burke is shaping up for someone
- 0:19Speaker 2: you wouldn't want anywhere near our parliament. New social media
- 0:23Speaker 2: posts shared that appear to celebrate Harmas's attacks on October seven.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Big news in federal politics today former Labor leader Bill
- 0:31Speaker 2: Shorten announcing his retirement from politics. Or get into what
- 0:35Speaker 2: this means for the Labor Party leadership on the sensible
- 0:38Speaker 2: Labor right in a moment. Plus, are we witnessing the
- 0:42Speaker 2: breakdown of the union movement? Big news this afternoon that
- 0:46Speaker 2: several major unions have voted to disaffiliate from the ACTU
- 0:51Speaker 2: in solidarity with the c of mu All. At the
- 0:55Speaker 2: same time as John Sega ramps up hostilities against Labor
- 1:00Speaker 2: and the fallout from yesterday's growth figures continues. The Treasurer
- 1:05Speaker 2: desperate to explain away our economic woes. At least one
- 1:09Speaker 2: person who knows how to manage a budget isn't letting
- 1:13Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers off anything.
- 1:15Speaker 3: It's very extraordinary. You appoint somebody's governor of the bank,
- 1:19Speaker 3: everybody says it's a good appointment, including the opposition and
- 1:24Speaker 3: first whip of Grapeshot, and you blame her. I thought
- 1:28Speaker 3: it was very poor performance. It staggers me to say
- 1:34Speaker 3: the least that the treasure thinks out of all that
- 1:36Speaker 3: he's justified in trying to shift the blame.
- 1:42Speaker 2: But first I'll stay with this issue. I want to
- 1:44Speaker 2: take another look at yesterday's National account figures, because as
- 1:49Speaker 2: I've read through the commentary today, I'm not so sure
- 1:52Speaker 2: people have really grasped what's happening here politically and why.
- 1:58Speaker 2: As those figures yesterday made clear, individually, we're all getting poorer,
- 2:02Speaker 2: even if the country itself still growing, although very slightly
- 2:06Speaker 2: at just zero point two of a percent. What the
- 2:09Speaker 2: national figures confirm is that we're in the midst of
- 2:13Speaker 2: a per capita recession, a recession per head of population,
- 2:17Speaker 2: and we're deep into it. We're deep into it because
- 2:20Speaker 2: it's now six quarters of going backwards on this per
- 2:23Speaker 2: person basis. Individually, we're all one and a half percent
- 2:29Speaker 2: poorer today that we were eighteen months ago. Now that's
- 2:34Speaker 2: the biggest sustained drop in our living standard since Peter,
- 2:38Speaker 2: since Paul Keating's recession that we had to have some
- 2:41Speaker 2: thirty years back. And while the headline growth figure is
- 2:45Speaker 2: still just in positive territory, that's only because of the
- 2:49Speaker 2: Albanezer governments flooding the economy with your money, and also
- 2:53Speaker 2: because it's importing migrants at all time record levels. Now,
- 2:57Speaker 2: if one or either of those things weren't happening, the spending,
- 3:01Speaker 2: all the high migration, we'd have no growth at all.
- 3:05Speaker 2: We'd be an official recession, not just a per capita recession.
- 3:11Speaker 2: But what the Treasurer won't admiss is that it's high
- 3:14Speaker 2: migration and debt laden spending that's actually making our lives harder,
- 3:21Speaker 2: not easier. More migrants mean downward pressure on wages, upward
- 3:25Speaker 2: pressure on housing costs, and massive pressure on infrastructure. And
- 3:29Speaker 2: more government spending means higher taxes. It also means higher inflation,
- 3:35Speaker 2: and that means that your mortgage won't be any easier
- 3:37Speaker 2: to pay anytime soon. So if that's what's happening, why
- 3:44Speaker 2: is labor doing it. Well, they're doing it because they
- 3:48Speaker 2: know to fall into an official recession it would be
- 3:51Speaker 2: the end of this government, and Charmers personally knows it
- 3:55Speaker 2: would kill off his ambitions to be prime minister. And
- 3:59Speaker 2: while the spending and the high migration keeps us just
- 4:02Speaker 2: out of official recession, it's the reason why inflation is
- 4:07Speaker 2: still too high and the Reserve Bank still can't take
- 4:10Speaker 2: the threats of rate hikes off the table, let alone
- 4:14Speaker 2: bring about any cuts to the official cash rate.
- 4:18Speaker 4: If inflation doesn't come down, then it might be that
- 4:22Speaker 4: the best medicine is in fact that we have to
- 4:27Speaker 4: end up putting more restriction into the economy.
- 4:31Speaker 2: So the guts of it is Charmers would prefer your
- 4:35Speaker 2: life is harder to protect his goal of becoming Prime
- 4:39Speaker 2: minister one day. It's all about his political reputation at
- 4:43Speaker 2: the cost of your family's financial survival. The basic problem
- 4:48Speaker 2: is that Charmers is ambitious, so he won't stand up
- 4:50Speaker 2: to the Greens or the Unions lest this hurt his
- 4:54Speaker 2: chances of taking the top job sometime in the future.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Now we saw today, of course short's going so his
- 5:01Speaker 2: position on the labor right is further strengthened. So if
- 5:05Speaker 2: we can't make the economy grow by making all of
- 5:07Speaker 2: us more productive and doing all the hard policy work
- 5:11Speaker 2: as Keating did, as Costello did well. Charmers will make
- 5:14Speaker 2: the economy grow by importing more people. It's lazy, it's risky,
- 5:21Speaker 2: and it's making inflation worse. And inflation is the biggest
- 5:26Speaker 2: fear of central banks across the world, and we are
- 5:29Speaker 2: way behind where other countries are in getting it under control.
- 5:34Speaker 2: To fuel his spending, Charmers is borrowing big from overseas.
- 5:40Speaker 2: As we go to air tonight and I how to
- 5:41Speaker 2: look at the debt position. Our official debt position is
- 5:45Speaker 2: nine hundred and thirty point eight billion dollars. Remember it
- 5:50Speaker 2: was zero with cash in the bank with the Howard
- 5:53Speaker 2: government left office ahead of us. Of course, we've got
- 5:57Speaker 2: all those billions and billions set to be borrowed and
- 6:00Speaker 2: spent in that chase for a net zero emissions policy
- 6:04Speaker 2: that simply defies engineering reality, with many of those billions borrowed,
- 6:10Speaker 2: ending up a subsidies to foreign companies, peddling renewables. Albaneze
- 6:17Speaker 2: might be weak, but Charmers is a little better, using
- 6:20Speaker 2: clevert spin to mask his failures. And because a lot
- 6:24Speaker 2: of this economic talk is complex and our eyes glaze over,
- 6:28Speaker 2: he's banking on the fact that most people won't understand
- 6:32Speaker 2: how he is hanging them out to dry for the
- 6:34Speaker 2: sake of his personal ambitions. Now, that's what I hope
- 6:39Speaker 2: you understand out of these comments tonight. In the end,
- 6:44Speaker 2: it's all about him. It's not about you. You don't
- 6:47Speaker 2: have to give a damn about how much you're hurting,
- 6:49Speaker 2: because if he did, he'd actually take responsibility for everything
- 6:54Speaker 2: rather than try to continually shift the blame. Now, Tuesday
- 7:04Speaker 2: just gone was the National Flag Day to commemorate the
- 7:08Speaker 2: first time the Australian flag was flown on September three,
- 7:11Speaker 2: nineteen oh one, atop the Exhibition Building in Melbourne that
- 7:15Speaker 2: was then serving as our National Parliament. So how do
- 7:19Speaker 2: the Albanezer government choose to mark National Flag Day well
- 7:24Speaker 2: by posting this on Instagram, LinkedIn and all the other
- 7:29Speaker 2: social media platforms.
- 7:34Speaker 5: On the third of September nineteen oh one, the Australian
- 7:36Speaker 5: national flag was flown for the first time over the
- 7:39Speaker 5: dome of the Exhibition Building in Melbourne, where the first
- 7:41Speaker 5: Commonwealth Parliament had opened. Since then, the national flag has
- 7:46Speaker 5: been flown at home and overseas to celebrate our nation
- 7:49Speaker 5: and can be seen flying high over Parliament House in Canberra.
- 7:53Speaker 5: You can celebrate Australian National Flag Day on the third
- 7:55Speaker 5: of September by holding a flag raising ceremony at your
- 7:58Speaker 5: organization or school.
- 8:02Speaker 2: I know you pick that up, didn't you. The one
- 8:04Speaker 2: national flag, the Australian flag, flown alongside two other flags
- 8:10Speaker 2: in almost every government image in that ad. Those other
- 8:14Speaker 2: two flags, the Aboriginal flag and the Torres Strait Islander flag,
- 8:19Speaker 2: well they are not national flags. They're official flags. That's
- 8:23Speaker 2: something different. We have dozens of official flags, many of
- 8:27Speaker 2: the military, but there's only one national flag and it's
- 8:31Speaker 2: this one. And there's even a specific Act of Federal
- 8:35Speaker 2: Parliament that makes it law. And the clearly Anthony Albanezi
- 8:40Speaker 2: doesn't honor it. As I said in my column in
- 8:43Speaker 2: The Australian this morning, it's now routine whenever there's more
- 8:48Speaker 2: than one flag pole to fly the national flag alongside
- 8:51Speaker 2: one or more indigenous flags, even though there's only one
- 8:55Speaker 2: flag that stands for the whole country. And it really
- 9:00Speaker 2: angers me that when there are three flags flown, they're
- 9:05Speaker 2: all flown at the same level. Now, if others are included,
- 9:09Speaker 2: and I don't think they should be at the very least,
- 9:12Speaker 2: our national flag should always be flown higher and taller
- 9:17Speaker 2: than any other accompanying flag. There are two points to
- 9:21Speaker 2: be made here. The first, flying the Aboriginal flag equally
- 9:26Speaker 2: with the national flag is a not very subtle way
- 9:29Speaker 2: of saying that Australia's really Aboriginal land. It's meant to
- 9:33Speaker 2: reinforce the activist line, always was, always will be. Some
- 9:37Speaker 2: people might think as just a gesture, but it's actually
- 9:40Speaker 2: deeply subversive of our national unity. The second point we
- 9:44Speaker 2: need to remember is the left are very good at
- 9:47Speaker 2: changing our country by stealth. For instance, when where any
- 9:52Speaker 2: of us asked whether we thought the Aboriginal flag should
- 9:55Speaker 2: nearly always fly alongside our national flag? Was this EVI
- 10:01Speaker 2: debated in the Parliament. Did the Prime Minister tell us
- 10:04Speaker 2: before the election that he would never do a press
- 10:07Speaker 2: conference before the national flag without the Aboriginal flag being
- 10:11Speaker 2: behind him as well? Of course he didn't, because if
- 10:15Speaker 2: he had, we might have questioned whether he really was
- 10:18Speaker 2: a safe change he said he would be. The Left
- 10:23Speaker 2: is really good at sneak attacks on our symbols and
- 10:27Speaker 2: our institutions, and the right, on the shame to say,
- 10:31Speaker 2: is pretty poor at resisting them. Now I'm encouraged. One
- 10:35Speaker 2: thing you almost never see is Peter Darton with any
- 10:39Speaker 2: flag behind him other than our national flag, and I
- 10:44Speaker 2: hope he'll make a crystal clear that there's only one
- 10:47Speaker 2: national flag and that that one national flag under a
- 10:51Speaker 2: Dutton government will always come first as cultural things matter.
- 11:01Speaker 2: I want it to be a fight at the next election,
- 11:04Speaker 2: because I think and you know, it matters, all right.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Trudy McIntosh and Cavern now with the headlines.
- 11:10Speaker 6: Good evening. The Reserve Bank governor warns the alternative to
- 11:14Speaker 6: high interest rates in Australia is an economic recession. The
- 11:17Speaker 6: RBA governor warns letting inflation run too high for too
- 11:20Speaker 6: long would have big consequences.
- 11:23Speaker 4: Ultimately, we'd need to slow the economy down by more,
- 11:26Speaker 4: which would result in a larger rise in unemployment and
- 11:29Speaker 4: a higher risk of recession.
- 11:30Speaker 6: Michelle Bullock is standing by her guidance that it would
- 11:33Speaker 6: be premature for rate carts to happen this year. She's
- 11:36Speaker 6: even still talking up the prospect of a rate hike.
- 11:39Speaker 4: If inflation doesn't come down, then it might be that
- 11:43Speaker 4: the best medicine is, in fact that we have to
- 11:47Speaker 4: end up putting more restriction into the economy.
- 11:50Speaker 6: Many mortgage holders are struggling to keep up after coming
- 11:53Speaker 6: off low rate fixed loans.
- 11:55Speaker 4: We estimate that around five percent are in a particularly
- 11:58Speaker 4: challenging situation. Some may ultimately have to make the very
- 12:02Speaker 4: difficult choice to sell their home.
- 12:04Speaker 6: And ex union boss John Setka set to be referred
- 12:07Speaker 6: to police after a second visit to a Victorian infrastructure site.
- 12:11Speaker 7: So you know what, more jobs to protect the union.
- 12:13Speaker 7: It's members, How're going to be gone a few months?
- 12:15Speaker 6: They want to scout and i'll sco Mister Setka addressing
- 12:20Speaker 6: workers once again slamming the Prime Minister's decision to plunge
- 12:24Speaker 6: the CFMU into administration.
- 12:26Speaker 4: Referring unlawful alleged unlawful behavior to Victoria Police is taking
- 12:31Speaker 4: very very strong action.
- 12:33Speaker 8: There are still many people around John Setka who are
- 12:35Speaker 8: members of Anthony Albanesi's branches.
- 12:38Speaker 6: We can't allow unions to be infiltrated by biking gangs.
- 12:42Speaker 2: And criminals and that's why we've taken the action we have.
- 12:45Speaker 6: A National Cabinet will meet in Canberra tomorrow. The focus
- 12:48Speaker 6: will be on tackling domestic violence. Trudy Macintosh Sky News, Canberra.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Okay, let's get across those headlines and more to do that.
- 12:57Speaker 2: I'm joined now by media writer for The Australia and
- 12:59Speaker 2: Sophie Ill and the iba IS Deputy executive director Daniel Wilde. Well,
- 13:04Speaker 2: welcome to you both. We'll start with the big news today,
- 13:07Speaker 2: Bill Shorten's impending retirement. I'll stay impending because you'll stay
- 13:11Speaker 2: in cabinet until February. Then he's going to move into
- 13:14Speaker 2: a new role as the Vice Chancellor at the University
- 13:17Speaker 2: of Canberra. In a way, so all credit to him.
- 13:21Speaker 2: He could easily have taken a plumb diplomatic posting. That
- 13:24Speaker 2: was one of the rumors running around Canberra, and you
- 13:27Speaker 2: know Albanezi would have wanted him out of the Parliament.
- 13:29Speaker 2: He certainly would have got it. But this is a
- 13:31Speaker 2: real job as a university CEO. It's not one of
- 13:35Speaker 2: the top ones. It's not in the group of eight.
- 13:37Speaker 2: But that's not to say it isn't well paid.
- 13:43Speaker 9: Absolutely, Peter.
- 13:45Speaker 10: The salary of Bill Shorton's predecessor is up there at
- 13:48Speaker 10: one point eight million dollars a year. This is our
- 13:52Speaker 10: eye watering figures. Good if you can get it. The
- 13:56Speaker 10: Prime Minister Anthony Albernesi is on about six hunds undred
- 14:00Speaker 10: and thirty thousand a year, and then Peter Dutton is
- 14:03Speaker 10: on about four hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year
- 14:06Speaker 10: as Opposition leader. So this is a good gig financially
- 14:10Speaker 10: for Bill Shorten. And it's any wonder Peter that he's
- 14:13Speaker 10: grabbed it with both hands.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not hear Daniel. These universe is squealing about
- 14:19Speaker 2: lack of funds if that's the sort of salary is
- 14:21Speaker 2: that they dole out. I want to make a political
- 14:25Speaker 2: point factionally inside labor with the departure shortened, and I
- 14:29Speaker 2: think there are accolades from all sides of politics today.
- 14:32Speaker 2: What we are witnessing what I think is the last
- 14:37Speaker 2: labor leader from the labor right departing the political stage. Now.
- 14:42Speaker 2: I love to see coalition governments in power and canbra
- 14:44Speaker 2: of course I do, but eventually they're out and Labor's
- 14:46Speaker 2: in and I want to see the best labor government
- 14:49Speaker 2: that could be filled and the best team that could
- 14:51Speaker 2: be put into cabinet. And I always think we're better
- 14:54Speaker 2: off under labor if the right's in charge rather than
- 14:58Speaker 2: the left. But I think the departure shortened just cements
- 15:01Speaker 2: the hard left doesn't it.
- 15:05Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right, Peter, and I'd say to
- 15:07Speaker 1: start with that. You know, Bill Shorton has made a
- 15:09Speaker 1: very big contribution to public life, and congratulations to him
- 15:12Speaker 1: and what he's done. I haven't always agree with his
- 15:14Speaker 1: policy positions, but I think his heart's been in the
- 15:17Speaker 1: right place, and you know, I think everybody wishes him
- 15:19Speaker 1: the best in his post parliamentary career.
- 15:22Speaker 2: In terms of.
- 15:22Speaker 1: The political situation, I think Bill Shorten could very well
- 15:25Speaker 1: be the last of the Mohicans when it comes to
- 15:28Speaker 1: labor right leadership, probably for a generation. We are seeing
- 15:31Speaker 1: the victorianization of federal labor, where you rightly identify that
- 15:36Speaker 1: labor right is at a low ebb in terms of
- 15:39Speaker 1: the political landscape. This is a bad thing for Australia.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Labor is no longer the party of the worker. It
- 15:45Speaker 1: no longer represents mainstream interest. It's become a niche, fanatical
- 15:49Speaker 1: and ideological party that's been captured and governed by the
- 15:53Speaker 1: very worst elements of our society. What does it represent, well,
- 15:57Speaker 1: it stands for climate fanaticism, which is driving up mass migration,
- 16:01Speaker 1: which is driving down wages. This poisonous identity politics that
- 16:05Speaker 1: you alluded to before with the Prime Minister not have
- 16:08Speaker 1: been standing in front of the Australian flag on our
- 16:10Speaker 1: National flag Day. Can you imagine Bob Hawk doing that.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I can't even imagine those such as you know, Kim
- 16:16Speaker 1: Beasley or Simon Crean doing that. So it shows how
- 16:19Speaker 1: far the Labor Party has fallen, and you can just
- 16:22Speaker 1: imagine how bad things could get. Peter, look at what's
- 16:24Speaker 1: happened to Victoria where you've got the most left wing
- 16:27Speaker 1: faction of the most left wing party that's driven that
- 16:30Speaker 1: state into the ground. That could happen federally in the
- 16:33Speaker 1: absence of a strong labor right faction. So I think
- 16:38Speaker 1: this is a big concern for the future of Australia.
- 16:42Speaker 2: And just on that point you were making there, Dan,
- 16:45Speaker 2: I think modern labor is where the Greens were about
- 16:47Speaker 2: ten years ago, and I think the Greens have gone
- 16:49Speaker 2: even further to the hard hard left into the sort
- 16:52Speaker 2: of the Marxist territory. And this is a terrible long
- 16:55Speaker 2: term trend for Australia.
- 17:00Speaker 1: It is, and you're quite right to say that we
- 17:02Speaker 1: need both sides to be strong. I think we've got
- 17:04Speaker 1: the best public policy, for example, in the Hawk Keating era.
- 17:07Speaker 1: In part that was because there was a very good
- 17:09Speaker 1: opposition as well with the Coalition. Also in the Howard
- 17:12Speaker 1: era when he was in government, you had those like
- 17:14Speaker 1: Kim Beasley, who I think had the nation's best interest
- 17:17Speaker 1: at heart. In recent years, you know, leadership has been lacking,
- 17:20Speaker 1: and we saw what happened during COVID, for example, all
- 17:23Speaker 1: sides of politics at the state and federal level were
- 17:26Speaker 1: in favor of very bad public policy because there was
- 17:28Speaker 1: a lack of leadership. So you do need both sides
- 17:31Speaker 1: to be strong. You want your best players on the field,
- 17:33Speaker 1: no matter what side of politics you support, and unfortunately
- 17:36Speaker 1: that's just not the case in our country, certainly on
- 17:38Speaker 1: the labor side.
- 17:41Speaker 2: We just saw the grad played in Trudi's comments there.
- 17:45Speaker 2: So where John Howard was an adelaide, weighed in again today.
- 17:48Speaker 2: This is unusual for John Howard. I think he's had
- 17:50Speaker 2: three days of commenting on Jim Chalmers and his attacks
- 17:55Speaker 2: on the Reserve Bank. Now, I made the point at
- 17:59Speaker 2: the top of the show is all about the personal
- 18:00Speaker 2: ambitions of the treasurer. He's putting us all to the
- 18:04Speaker 2: fire to protect his brand, not to slip into a recession.
- 18:08Speaker 2: I mean no one wants a recession, but we certainly
- 18:10Speaker 2: don't want this high inflation either. But I'll tell you
- 18:13Speaker 2: what a bullet is showing some steel, isn't she.
- 18:17Speaker 10: She absolutely is Peter, and she's showing that she will
- 18:21Speaker 10: not be bullied by the government as she should be.
- 18:24Speaker 10: She should stand up. As we know, the RBA is
- 18:27Speaker 10: separate to the government, but we know that Jim Chalmers
- 18:31Speaker 10: has those prime minister ambitions to be prime minister. He's
- 18:35Speaker 10: got his eye on the prize and he'll do nothing
- 18:38Speaker 10: to stop it getting to become prime minister of this country.
- 18:42Speaker 10: So him coming out and attacking the RBA, I think
- 18:45Speaker 10: is very unwise. And I think Australians are starting to say,
- 18:50Speaker 10: hang on a minute. This government has been in office
- 18:53Speaker 10: for a couple of years now and we're not getting
- 18:56Speaker 10: any better off. We've had all these rate rises over
- 18:59Speaker 10: a dozen. They're starting to blame the government and this
- 19:03Speaker 10: is exactly what they don't want as we come up
- 19:05Speaker 10: to the next federal election early next year.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Daniel the IPA has put some research out today digs
- 19:15Speaker 2: into where the migrants live. I know there's all this
- 19:18Speaker 2: talk that they get out into the regions they benefit
- 19:20Speaker 2: the economy more broadly. But you say that's not the case.
- 19:27Speaker 1: It's not the case, Peter. If you look at the
- 19:28Speaker 1: data about eighty three percent of settled in a capital
- 19:31Speaker 1: city across Australia, and that's one of the main reasons
- 19:35Speaker 1: why the country and the economy is going backwards very fast.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Of course, that's not to blame the migrants themselves, because
- 19:42Speaker 1: of course you'd want to come to a great country
- 19:43Speaker 1: like Australia for a better future. But the migration intake
- 19:47Speaker 1: hasn't been planned for is the single biggest expansion to
- 19:51Speaker 1: our population in our nation's history.
- 19:54Speaker 7: And we've had six.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Consecutive quarters of negative per capita growth. That is the
- 20:00Speaker 1: the longest decline to living standards on record, and those
- 20:03Speaker 1: records go back to the early nineteen seventies. So this
- 20:06Speaker 1: economy is worse than the economy that Whitlam presided over
- 20:11Speaker 1: for the living standards of mainstream Australians. We've had nine
- 20:15Speaker 1: quarters of this government. Seven of those quarters we've gone
- 20:18Speaker 1: backwards in terms of per capita growth. And the reality
- 20:21Speaker 1: is that the only growth mechanism that this government is
- 20:24Speaker 1: interested in is never ending population growth underpinned by mass migration. Yes,
- 20:30Speaker 1: that will make your economy bigger because it's a bigger market,
- 20:33Speaker 1: more people spending more money. But what matters is not
- 20:36Speaker 1: the size of the economic pie, but the slice of
- 20:39Speaker 1: that pie that.
- 20:39Speaker 7: Australians are getting.
- 20:40Speaker 1: And as anyone will tell you, the slice of that
- 20:42Speaker 1: pie is getting smaller and smaller.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Let's talk about energy, because energy is a big factor
- 20:49Speaker 2: in household budgets. As we know, Sophie, the Coalition is
- 20:52Speaker 2: sort of fleshing out its nuclear policies a bit more
- 20:56Speaker 2: detail out today. Seven regional communities. These are the ones
- 20:59Speaker 2: that will be flagged as locations potential locations for reactors.
- 21:03Speaker 2: There's talk that the Coalition is going to sort of
- 21:06Speaker 2: shower them in benefits. They'll create a government back managed
- 21:10Speaker 2: investment fund. From that, there'll be dividends for local communities.
- 21:14Speaker 2: I have to say, if it was me, I'd say
- 21:17Speaker 2: to every community that wants to host a nuclear power plant,
- 21:21Speaker 2: if you live anywhere close to it, your household, your business,
- 21:25Speaker 2: your factory, whatever, will get free electricity, not cheap free
- 21:30Speaker 2: electricity for the life of the generator. I reckon that'd
- 21:34Speaker 2: be a game changer.
- 21:38Speaker 10: Well, PD probably right, but there has to be some
- 21:41Speaker 10: reward for these communities of where these are going to
- 21:44Speaker 10: be located. And as we know, whenever there's something in
- 21:48Speaker 10: someone's backyard, whether it be wind farms or the like,
- 21:52Speaker 10: they often want something in return, and that's a financial reward.
- 21:56Speaker 10: So I think it's really important that the Coalition continues
- 22:00Speaker 10: to reveal details of this policy because that's been a real,
- 22:05Speaker 10: really easy attack point for the Government to say, well,
- 22:08Speaker 10: we don't know much about it, we've got no detail,
- 22:11Speaker 10: and they've used that as an attack point. But the
- 22:14Speaker 10: more details that come out in lead up to the election,
- 22:17Speaker 10: I think will be beneficial to the Coalition so that
- 22:21Speaker 10: the Australian public can make up their own minds to
- 22:24Speaker 10: whether or not this is something they want.
- 22:26Speaker 2: To vote for. So, Daniel, thank you. Have a good weekend. Okay,
- 22:32Speaker 2: Now let's return to the battle for the southwestern Sydney
- 22:34Speaker 2: seat of Watson, where the incumbent Labor front Bench a
- 22:37Speaker 2: Tony Burke, is under pressure from a Muslim independent candidate,
- 22:42Speaker 2: doctor Zayid Bassuni. Now I'm no fan of Burke, but
- 22:45Speaker 2: his challenges social media postings raised very serious concerns about
- 22:50Speaker 2: his fitness to stand as a candidate, let alone be
- 22:52Speaker 2: elected as a member of Parliament. Today has been revealed
- 22:56Speaker 2: that five days after the October seven attacks last year,
- 23:00Speaker 2: Bassunyi shared this post depicting an illustration of a rock
- 23:03Speaker 2: throwing protester and a machine gun wielding paraglider, with the
- 23:08Speaker 2: caption that read dreams, my friend come true for those
- 23:12Speaker 2: who seek and work to see them come true. Bassoons
- 23:16Speaker 2: also had question marks over his online activity after scott
- 23:20Speaker 2: News revealed this post shared to his Facebook account, but
- 23:24Speaker 2: showed a man handing out what looks like a Middle
- 23:26Speaker 2: Eastern dessert. It's unclear if the image was posted after
- 23:30Speaker 2: the attack or a year prior during need However, Bassoon
- 23:35Speaker 2: he didn't deny it was shared after the attack when
- 23:38Speaker 2: he was asked about it today by our own reporter
- 23:41Speaker 2: Juliet Bradley.
- 23:43Speaker 11: It's obvious that this post was related to Palestinians celebrating
- 23:52Speaker 11: being out of the cage. They've been under durest for
- 23:57Speaker 11: twelve years.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Right joining me now, co CEO of the Executive Council
- 24:03Speaker 2: of Australian Jewelry, Alex Rifkin, Alex second post. Now that's
- 24:09Speaker 2: come to light our concern. Are you and the Jewish community, Well.
- 24:18Speaker 12: It's pretty appalling to have any Australian, let alone a doctor,
- 24:21Speaker 12: let alone a candidate for federal office, holding these sorts
- 24:24Speaker 12: of views, and he can deny it all he wants
- 24:27Speaker 12: and say that he's merely supporting Palestine liberation or Palestadin riots.
- 24:31Speaker 12: He was very clearly supporting Palestinian terror. He was supporting
- 24:35Speaker 12: the actions of Hamas on October seven, the progression of
- 24:39Speaker 12: Palestinian terrorism from rock throwing in the first Interfata, which
- 24:42Speaker 12: has shown him out graphic that he just shared, through
- 24:45Speaker 12: to October seven, where you had hundreds of terrorists hand
- 24:49Speaker 12: gliding into a festival in the south of Israel, murdering
- 24:53Speaker 12: more than four hundred incent civilians, dragging dozens off to captivity.
- 24:56Speaker 12: We saw six executed in cold blood just days ago.
- 25:00Speaker 12: And this is the conduct that this man is celebrating
- 25:03Speaker 12: is revelion. So I think it shows an absolute lack
- 25:05Speaker 12: of integrity and a lack of fitness for public office certainly,
- 25:09Speaker 12: and I think he needs to think about his own humanity.
- 25:13Speaker 2: It's astounding his back as wouldn't have better vetit his
- 25:16Speaker 2: social media or perhaps I did, perhaps they support his views.
- 25:21Speaker 2: That's also a great concern.
- 25:25Speaker 12: Well, that would be more alarming still and as yet
- 25:27Speaker 12: I haven't heard anyone disassociate themselves from these views. We've
- 25:31Speaker 12: seen some very tepid responses from the sitting member, who
- 25:35Speaker 12: also happens to be the Minister for Home Affairs and Multiculturalism.
- 25:38Speaker 12: I've never really seen an incumbent not take the opportunity
- 25:43Speaker 12: to attack an upstart challenger like this. But Tony Burke
- 25:47Speaker 12: has taken a very softly, softly approach here, which is
- 25:49Speaker 12: intriguing in itself. But certainly, you know, those who accept this,
- 25:53Speaker 12: those who choose not to condemn it, are in some
- 25:56Speaker 12: way tacitly accepting this is okay, and it's something that
- 25:59Speaker 12: just cannot become normalized in this country, the perception the
- 26:03Speaker 12: terrorism that the Wanton massacre, rape, abduction of civilians is
- 26:06Speaker 12: somehow tolerable or political.
- 26:11Speaker 2: I've got to pick up that point though, because Burke
- 26:13Speaker 2: has form here, Alex. We know that within hours of
- 26:16Speaker 2: the attack there were celebrations on the streets in his
- 26:19Speaker 2: own electorate. He said nothing, nothing at all, and this
- 26:23Speaker 2: is long before Israel fired one shot back towards Gaza
- 26:28Speaker 2: in retaliation back in October. Burke then was silent. I'm
- 26:32Speaker 2: not surprised he's not saying anything about it now either. Well,
- 26:38Speaker 2: that's true.
- 26:39Speaker 12: We have those horrific scenes which really set the tone
- 26:41Speaker 12: for what has ensued in the subsequent ten months. You
- 26:43Speaker 12: had on the streets of Tony Burke's own electorate a
- 26:47Speaker 12: preacher saying to a mob that his joyous, he's happy,
- 26:51Speaker 12: he feels proud. You had a convoy driving through the
- 26:54Speaker 12: streets there releasing fireworks and again cheering and celebrating these
- 26:58Speaker 12: atrocities as the news were still breaking on folding, and
- 27:01Speaker 12: we talk about leadership, and we talk about the failures
- 27:03Speaker 12: of leadership, and the fact that these sorts of acts
- 27:05Speaker 12: weren't condemned at the very beginning is one of the
- 27:07Speaker 12: factors that has contributed to the very disturbing escalation over
- 27:10Speaker 12: the past ten months.
- 27:14Speaker 2: Alex I caught up with some friends the other day
- 27:15Speaker 2: and they were telling the story of a family and
- 27:18Speaker 2: they say, this is more than one family in Carefield
- 27:21Speaker 2: who forship, but every Friday, the family, extended family comes
- 27:26Speaker 2: for dinner. They bring bedding, They have the meal in
- 27:29Speaker 2: the basement and everyone doesn't want to leave the house
- 27:33Speaker 2: late at night, so they all stay there. Given their
- 27:36Speaker 2: concerns about random attacks on the streets. This is the
- 27:39Speaker 2: area of Corefield in Melbourne on Friday evenings. We learned
- 27:44Speaker 2: today a Jewish father has spoken out that he had
- 27:46Speaker 2: a son attacked heading home from the Sunday school of
- 27:51Speaker 2: an Orthodox Jewish college in Melbourne. We've also had news
- 27:55Speaker 2: reported today that a young group of footy players who
- 27:59Speaker 2: play for a Jewish team were called Jewish dogs and
- 28:02Speaker 2: abused on public transport. Now, I know you're in Sydney,
- 28:05Speaker 2: but I'm disgusted this is happening in Melbourne suburbs, Australian suburbs.
- 28:14Speaker 12: Sadly, it's happening in every city in the country, and
- 28:17Speaker 12: I hear from members of the community on a near
- 28:19Speaker 12: daily basis, whether it be mothers who are worried about
- 28:22Speaker 12: their kids who go to Jewish day schools and are
- 28:25Speaker 12: getting them to cover up their uniforms because of the
- 28:27Speaker 12: abuse they receive in shopping malls and public transport on
- 28:31Speaker 12: the sports ground. As you alluded to there what happens
- 28:33Speaker 12: in our classrooms, in public schools and private schools, in
- 28:37Speaker 12: the university campuses. It's only really since the Senate Inquiry
- 28:40Speaker 12: has been taking submissions that a lot of these stories,
- 28:43Speaker 12: these harrowing ordeals of academics and students on campuses have
- 28:46Speaker 12: come out and in most cases there's utter inaction. Complaints
- 28:50Speaker 12: are made and authorities have no idea how to deal
- 28:53Speaker 12: with it or unwilling to deal with it. And we're
- 28:55Speaker 12: in a situation here where there's a section of our
- 28:57Speaker 12: community that is contemplating their place in our society, particularly
- 29:01Speaker 12: those who belong to certain industries that have been particularly vulnerable,
- 29:04Speaker 12: the arts and culture. People are losing their livelihoods, they're
- 29:07Speaker 12: losing their businesses and as I said, they're losing their
- 29:10Speaker 12: place in the society. We're heading into a very dark
- 29:12Speaker 12: place and this needs to stop.
- 29:17Speaker 2: I would really love to see some sort of pin
- 29:21Speaker 2: or a T shirt or a something that those of
- 29:25Speaker 2: us who are highly supportive of our Australian Jewish community
- 29:29Speaker 2: but are not Jewish can where to show our solidarity
- 29:32Speaker 2: and support. You can take that as a question, I notice, Alex,
- 29:35Speaker 2: because I'd love to be able to to publicly as
- 29:38Speaker 2: I get around a place like Melbourne, send a clear
- 29:41Speaker 2: signal that I can tell that there is a good
- 29:44Speaker 2: guy here and there is a bad guy here, and
- 29:46Speaker 2: I know which side I'm on. So come back to
- 29:49Speaker 2: me if you come up with some way we can
- 29:51Speaker 2: all get behind doubt.
- 29:52Speaker 12: Thank you, Peter, thank you for your solidarity. I will
- 29:55Speaker 12: give that some consideration. Thank you for that great idea.
- 29:57Speaker 12: I really appreciate it.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Terrific. Thank you, Alex. After the break, despite the billions
- 30:03Speaker 2: were already spending on renewables, the government's due climates are
- 30:07Speaker 2: well his bright idea simply double down, go even harder. That's,
- 30:10Speaker 2: of course the former Liberal Useab of Wales Treasurer Matt Kean.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Any wonder that the party in New South Wales is
- 30:16Speaker 2: in the strife, it's in. Plus, if you're fed up
- 30:18Speaker 2: with councils focusing on everything but their actual job, there
- 30:22Speaker 2: is now something you can do to fight back. I'll
- 30:25Speaker 2: tell you what that is. After the break, welcome back
- 30:32Speaker 2: still become another secret council report being kept from rape payers,
- 30:37Speaker 2: this one in Melbourne on the volatile issue of bike
- 30:40Speaker 2: lanes and more on bike lanes that are sitting to
- 30:42Speaker 2: got a whole lot to tell you in a moment.
- 30:43Speaker 2: But first, despite all the signs pointing to the fact
- 30:46Speaker 2: our net zero targets are simply unachievable, that they don't
- 30:50Speaker 2: reflect engineering reality, let alone some fiscal sanity. The government's
- 30:55Speaker 2: climate changes are Matt Kean Well, his bright idea today
- 30:59Speaker 2: is direct all of that, just doubling down. That's his
- 31:02Speaker 2: strategy on our energy madness. In a much weighted report
- 31:06Speaker 2: from the Climate Authority, it has been advised that Australia
- 31:10Speaker 2: must cut emissions by seventy five percent over the next
- 31:14Speaker 2: decade in order to limit global warming to one point
- 31:17Speaker 2: five degrees seventy five percent over the next decade. Who
- 31:21Speaker 2: believes that will happen? And this all comes with more
- 31:25Speaker 2: speculation today than Anthony ALBERANIZI will put off releasing his
- 31:28Speaker 2: twenty thirty five emissions targets. They are due in February
- 31:32Speaker 2: next year. Watch that date. Joining me now for more
- 31:37Speaker 2: environment editor at The Australian Graham Lloyd Well. I'll get
- 31:41Speaker 2: to that February date in the moment, but take me
- 31:43Speaker 2: through your key analysis from this report Matt Kein has
- 31:47Speaker 2: now handed to the government.
- 31:51Speaker 9: Well, good evening, Peter. I think it's fair to say
- 31:54Speaker 9: that Matt Kain has delivered in spades to his labor
- 31:58Speaker 9: paymasters and also theble energy industry. He said that efforts
- 32:03Speaker 9: have to be stepped up, effectually doubled and that the
- 32:06Speaker 9: only sensible thing to do is commit immediately to win
- 32:11Speaker 9: solar and batteries as the technology that will get us there.
- 32:15Speaker 9: He was pretty cold on any other technologies, including nuclear,
- 32:20Speaker 9: but surprisingly said that there may be a role for
- 32:23Speaker 9: hydrogen and other things later on agriculture, we're all going
- 32:28Speaker 9: to be eating less beef. We're going to be eating
- 32:31Speaker 9: chicken and mung beans and other things, and we're going
- 32:36Speaker 9: to be turning over agricultural land to forestry. The other
- 32:41Speaker 9: thing is that we should have a bureaucratic class that
- 32:44Speaker 9: more closely monitors what people and companies are doing and
- 32:49Speaker 9: corrects their behavior. So welcome to the future.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, But has any in addition
- 32:57Speaker 2: to this government job, hasn't he gotten a oointment to
- 33:01Speaker 2: an investment outfit connected with renewables? And how is that
- 33:05Speaker 2: not a clear conflict of interest?
- 33:09Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, this is something I'm not totally familiar with
- 33:12Speaker 9: the details, but I think there are many conflicts in
- 33:16Speaker 9: this whole space. People seem to move out of government
- 33:21Speaker 9: into opportunities in the renewable sphere, and there's not a
- 33:27Speaker 9: lot of transparency.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to that target due for twenty thirty
- 33:34Speaker 2: five set to be announced. The deadline is February next year.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Now I don't think we can get there. I think
- 33:40Speaker 2: it also would be poison to go to the electorate
- 33:43Speaker 2: with an even harder, faster target because it just amplifies,
- 33:47Speaker 2: particularly the energy pain people are feeling. Now. I suspect
- 33:52Speaker 2: we won't have this announcement. That's why that talks in
- 33:54Speaker 2: the paper today, because it's very very close then to
- 33:58Speaker 2: a federal election. We don't have a target before the election,
- 34:02Speaker 2: will vote not knowing what his twenty thirty five plans are.
- 34:09Speaker 9: There's a lot of politics going on in this space.
- 34:11Speaker 9: Of course, the Albanizi government wants to hold its good
- 34:15Speaker 9: faith as it goes to the Climate meeting at the
- 34:17Speaker 9: end of the year. It's under pressure there with all
- 34:20Speaker 9: other countries to report a higher target next year. It
- 34:24Speaker 9: obviously knows that there's an election coming where that will
- 34:27Speaker 9: be a key issue. So Matt Kean's thrown them a
- 34:31Speaker 9: lifeline on that as well. He said, well, it's unlikely
- 34:34Speaker 9: that the Climate Change Commission will have a recommendation to
- 34:37Speaker 9: make before the next election, so inevitably the government will
- 34:42Speaker 9: be able to say, well, we're waiting on advice before
- 34:45Speaker 9: we make the decision. So I think there's a lot
- 34:48Speaker 9: of substance in reports that that February deadline won't be met.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Help my viewers understand, Graham. All the money that runs
- 34:59Speaker 2: around out of the taxpayer through these various funds. I'm
- 35:02Speaker 2: thinking one case is the Future Ade Australia fund to
- 35:06Speaker 2: subsidize wind, solar and batteries. We know there's a one
- 35:10Speaker 2: billion dollar solar SunShot program. You look into the detailer
- 35:14Speaker 2: that there's no requirement or no minimum for local content,
- 35:20Speaker 2: so you could be a foreign player. You get yourself
- 35:22Speaker 2: an Australian ABN. You say that the project will take
- 35:27Speaker 2: primarily at place in Australia, but everything that you use
- 35:31Speaker 2: could be made overseas. You could be just importing to Australia,
- 35:34Speaker 2: or the jobs could be offshore. You'll still get the money.
- 35:38Speaker 2: The merry go round, the billions and billions of dollars
- 35:42Speaker 2: in subsidies, I think there is absolutely not enough transparency now.
- 35:50Speaker 9: There certainly not enough transparency in any of these relationships
- 35:55Speaker 9: and subsidies and other things. And we're only now getting
- 36:00Speaker 9: some details on this SunShot program, which is part of
- 36:03Speaker 9: the big Made in Australia push. Now we find well
- 36:07Speaker 9: made in Australia is probably not a very good description
- 36:09Speaker 9: because foreign companies can come and be involved in it
- 36:13Speaker 9: and the threshold for entry is basically an ABN. So
- 36:17Speaker 9: this is sort of quite surprising. But more surprising is
- 36:21Speaker 9: that companies that have been selected to participate have quickly
- 36:25Speaker 9: found that what they were expecting to do has got
- 36:29Speaker 9: to change because it's a very competitive field and they
- 36:33Speaker 9: probably can't do what they were planning to. So the
- 36:36Speaker 9: whole thing really is sort of throwing money out the
- 36:39Speaker 9: door and hoping something comes back. But as you and
- 36:43Speaker 9: the viewers would know, that's really not how credible business works.
- 36:49Speaker 2: And a lot of this money is off shore. I
- 36:51Speaker 2: mean a lot of these wind far companies, as you know,
- 36:53Speaker 2: are foreign players. So if there is a profit, so
- 36:56Speaker 2: somebsidies go overseas, but if there's a profit that heads overseas.
- 37:00Speaker 9: Well, certainly the whole thing is geared towards importing capital equipment,
- 37:08Speaker 9: primarily from China and bringing in expertise from Europe and
- 37:14Speaker 9: other places to deliver the big projects that we do
- 37:18Speaker 9: need if we are going to try and meet any
- 37:22Speaker 9: of these targets that are being put forward.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Goodness. May I reckon in ten years time all this
- 37:29Speaker 2: will be uncovered and people will not understand. They will
- 37:34Speaker 2: wonder how the hell we watched it all happen before
- 37:37Speaker 2: our very eyes. Thank you Graham Wood. After the break,
- 37:40Speaker 2: more secrecy, as I said, from local councils, rate payers
- 37:44Speaker 2: hit yet again and something you can do to change
- 37:48Speaker 2: the tide on who gets up in your local council.
- 37:52Speaker 2: I'll give you that detail in a moment. Blogo bag
- 37:59Speaker 2: still to comes. Latest spray as the government riffed with
- 38:03Speaker 2: the unions gets worse and now there's been a big
- 38:05Speaker 2: vote disaffiliation for some unions away from the ACTU, meaning
- 38:11Speaker 2: union donations not guaranteed for labor at the next election.
- 38:14Speaker 2: This could be very significant. We'll get to the in
- 38:17Speaker 2: the moment, but first The Australian is reporting that secret
- 38:20Speaker 2: polling conducted when Sally Capp was the Lord Mayor of
- 38:23Speaker 2: Melbourne has revealed the public were concerned about her bike
- 38:27Speaker 2: lane expansion. A report by Redbridge from March to April
- 38:31Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, so just after all those terrible lockdowns
- 38:35Speaker 2: found that ninety percent of Melbournians hadn't used the new
- 38:38Speaker 2: bike lanes. It comes after hundreds of pages of documents
- 38:41Speaker 2: were released following a two year freedom of information battle
- 38:45Speaker 2: showing taxpayers funds were used to conduct personal polling on
- 38:49Speaker 2: Sally Capp's performance. Joining met now someone who puts the
- 38:53Speaker 2: blow torch to the council's Council Watch president Dean Hurlstone, Well, well, well,
- 39:01Speaker 2: I live in the City of Melbourne, very close to
- 39:04Speaker 2: the CBD, and of course under the cover of COVID lockdowns,
- 39:08Speaker 2: these bike lanes appeared. I have a desk that looks
- 39:12Speaker 2: over a very busy road. I barely see a bike
- 39:15Speaker 2: on it. And now we find out that people did
- 39:18Speaker 2: want them, didn't know about them, and all of these
- 39:20Speaker 2: other findings.
- 39:21Speaker 13: Yeah, look, Nicholas Reese really has something to explain here.
- 39:24Speaker 13: He knew all about this. Obviously he was Sally's deputy
- 39:27Speaker 13: and he's now the Lord Mayor, so we want him
- 39:29Speaker 13: to front up and explain. Peter, we keep seeing the
- 39:32Speaker 13: City of Melbourne and all councils abusing the FI process
- 39:35Speaker 13: and hiding these issues.
- 39:37Speaker 2: And we know the bike lanes are a really shue
- 39:39Speaker 2: and the looming campaign, aren't they? Yeah, Abba Dallas in.
- 39:42Speaker 13: October, absolutely October, and we know that people want them
- 39:45Speaker 13: ripped up.
- 39:46Speaker 2: Wow. And we saw the same thing in Sydney and
- 39:48Speaker 2: Carolyn Marcus had a story yesterday. A whole lot of
- 39:50Speaker 2: traders came out and said, we don't believe the Lord
- 39:53Speaker 2: mayor Theirs Clover Moore saying that there are three thousand
- 39:56Speaker 2: bikes a day. They did some numbers. It's closer to
- 39:59Speaker 2: three hundred a day.
- 40:00Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 40:01Speaker 13: Absolutely. What we know is that activist counselors who've got
- 40:04Speaker 13: in like Clover Moore and Sally Cap have used the
- 40:07Speaker 13: system and hidden this under FOI privilege. They've tried to
- 40:10Speaker 13: block the information and they actually didn't consult the traders
- 40:13Speaker 13: and the people that will lose their businesses if this continues.
- 40:17Speaker 2: What's the Cumberland Council doing in New South Wales.
- 40:21Speaker 13: So they're all fighting over a councilor code of conducts
- 40:24Speaker 13: and they've spent over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
- 40:26Speaker 13: of rate payers money fighting them. But the funny thing is, Peter.
- 40:29Speaker 2: They don't want to sign a code of conduct.
- 40:30Speaker 13: No, they're fighting each other over what they say and
- 40:33Speaker 13: do on social media and in the public. Freedom of
- 40:35Speaker 13: speech is great, but we've got a system and it's worse.
- 40:38Speaker 13: In Victoria, the Human City councilors spent about half a
- 40:41Speaker 13: million dollars on code of conducts between councilors. We've got
- 40:44Speaker 13: to put an end to this. The minister needs to
- 40:46Speaker 13: fix this.
- 40:47Speaker 2: What about the case in Brisbane. You've got a counselor
- 40:51Speaker 2: on the Brisbane City Council who puts out a newspaper
- 40:55Speaker 2: assuming it's supposed to be rose rates and rubbish, all
- 40:58Speaker 2: the stuff that you care about from your local council.
- 41:00Speaker 2: But it's all about a pro palace didion push. Now
- 41:04Speaker 2: they've been forced to pay back some.
- 41:05Speaker 13: Money, yeah they have. And what we keep seeing in
- 41:07Speaker 13: many council poitation thousand dollars, it's twenty thousand dollars. And
- 41:11Speaker 13: what we keep seeing even in Victorian councils is the
- 41:14Speaker 13: Greens and the Socialists and everybody that's the activist that's
- 41:17Speaker 13: got onto council, the Teals. They're actually forming all these committees,
- 41:20Speaker 13: refugee committees, climate change committees. There are hundreds of them
- 41:25Speaker 13: across the state.
- 41:25Speaker 2: Can't they read the Constitution?
- 41:27Speaker 13: Well, you know, they think that they're the third level
- 41:29Speaker 13: of government that gets to triple our use of taxes.
- 41:32Speaker 13: They're trying to duplicate what state and federal does, and
- 41:35Speaker 13: they need to stay in their lane and provide local
- 41:37Speaker 13: services and stop with the activism. It's not their role.
- 41:40Speaker 13: They need to stop talking about Gaza. They need to
- 41:42Speaker 13: stop talking about international issues. They are not what people
- 41:46Speaker 13: pay their rates for.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Isn't this because the Libs basically have vacated the space
- 41:51Speaker 2: for a long time. And they did it originally because
- 41:53Speaker 2: I thought it should be at a groundswell of local people.
- 41:55Speaker 2: It shouldn't be the political parties. And what's happened is
- 41:59Speaker 2: the left of you used it as a training ground,
- 42:01Speaker 2: so they don't care that these are federal issues. That's right.
- 42:03Speaker 2: They're blooding people, getting their name recognition up in order
- 42:06Speaker 2: them to move them into the other tiers of government.
- 42:08Speaker 13: Yes, and what we know, Peter, is that the vast
- 42:10Speaker 13: majority of independent counselors are often left leaning teals in
- 42:14Speaker 13: disguise or labor candidates in disguise in a training ground
- 42:18Speaker 13: for a state MP roll. One day, we're sick and
- 42:21Speaker 13: tired of it, because what that means is they're doing
- 42:23Speaker 13: the bidding of their local member, they're caucusing, and they're
- 42:26Speaker 13: actually electing mayors in labor councils based on local member.
- 42:29Speaker 2: So for the local member is using it as a
- 42:31Speaker 2: power block.
- 42:32Speaker 13: Absolutely. We know, you know councils like Hume, the City
- 42:34Speaker 13: of Daninom they're behaving in these ways where the labor
- 42:37Speaker 13: factions are fighting over the power. That is not what
- 42:40Speaker 13: locals want local councils to do. We know over ninety
- 42:42Speaker 13: percent of Victorians don't want political parties controlling local councils.
- 42:47Speaker 13: So one of the things that we've done for the.
- 42:49Speaker 2: First time what can we do about it? So totally.
- 42:53Speaker 13: So what we did, Peter was we thought what are
- 42:55Speaker 13: all the issues? We interviewed thousands of people across the
- 42:58Speaker 13: state and said what are the things you want to know,
- 43:00Speaker 13: and all of them said, we actually want transparency. There
- 43:03Speaker 13: isn't any So we've actually put a questionnaire together. We're
- 43:06Speaker 13: asking every single candidate to declare their views on climate
- 43:10Speaker 13: change Australia day political parties where they stand on these
- 43:13Speaker 13: key issues, so that voters know before they get hoodwinked.
- 43:17Speaker 2: So when I walk in, I'll be able to go
- 43:19Speaker 2: to council, watch your website or your hand then yep,
- 43:21Speaker 2: a flyer that'll give me a pretty straight view of
- 43:24Speaker 2: the candidates.
- 43:25Speaker 13: Yes, so what we do? You have to just go
- 43:27Speaker 13: to our website, pop in your email and the council
- 43:29Speaker 13: that you're actually from, and we'll actually send you what
- 43:31Speaker 13: all of the candidates have said to us. And that
- 43:34Speaker 13: means before you get your mail ballot, you can look
- 43:37Speaker 13: at all of that information and make a really informed
- 43:40Speaker 13: decision and get rid of the activism in our councils.
- 43:43Speaker 2: You need to come back when those findings are in
- 43:45Speaker 2: and we'll put them out publicly so everyone knows dred
- 43:47Speaker 2: percent Well, Undine, that's a great game, all loujah. You
- 43:51Speaker 2: might get some action on local councils. But after the
- 43:53Speaker 2: break more on the absurdity of having three flags on
- 43:56Speaker 2: display on National Flag Day. We actually ownly have one
- 44:01Speaker 2: because are we witnessing the breakdown of Labour's close alliance
- 44:04Speaker 2: with a union movement. There's turmoil tonight in the ACTU.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Welcome back, more issues to get through. Let's bring in
- 44:14Speaker 2: my panel, Pauline Hanson's chief of staff, James Ashby and
- 44:18Speaker 2: Spectator Columbist radio announcer to Terry Barnes. Gents, welcome. Let's
- 44:23Speaker 2: start with the National Flag Day controversy. I discussed it
- 44:26Speaker 2: in my editorial. The Albanezy governments chose to honor the
- 44:29Speaker 2: day on Tuesday with a post that features not just
- 44:32Speaker 2: own national flag, but the Aboriginal flag and the Torres
- 44:35Speaker 2: Strait Islander flag and they're all at the same level.
- 44:39Speaker 2: This gets under my skin, James, it absolutely does.
- 44:44Speaker 7: Yeah, mine too.
- 44:45Speaker 8: And don't forget it was the Albanezi government that moved
- 44:48Speaker 8: a motion on the floor of the Parliament to make
- 44:51Speaker 8: sure that we had three flags in our Senate. Isn't
- 44:53Speaker 8: it funny though? Look, I fly the flag at home.
- 44:56Speaker 8: I only fly one because I still only recognize the
- 44:59Speaker 8: one flag.
- 45:00Speaker 7: We only really have one.
- 45:01Speaker 8: But the only time the left recognize the one flag
- 45:05Speaker 8: that this country has is when they want to burn it.
- 45:08Speaker 8: And that's the only time they'll recognize it when they're
- 45:11Speaker 8: in protest of something that the government has done. Huh
- 45:16Speaker 8: it is spot on.
- 45:17Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the only time they'll recognize it.
- 45:19Speaker 8: So look, I know George Christensen has attempted to criminalize
- 45:24Speaker 8: or outlaw the ability for people to burn the Australian flag.
- 45:28Speaker 7: We've tried to do the same thing.
- 45:29Speaker 8: It hasn't had the support of the majority of people
- 45:31Speaker 8: in the Parliament. Until we do that until we do that,
- 45:34Speaker 8: we won't reinstate pride in the Australian flag.
- 45:38Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, there is only one flag.
- 45:42Speaker 9: Here.
- 45:42Speaker 2: It's a shocking message. I mean, under legislation we have
- 45:45Speaker 2: one and one only national flag. There's a myriad of
- 45:50Speaker 2: official flags of which the Aboriginal flag is one, but
- 45:53Speaker 2: it is not a national flag.
- 45:57Speaker 14: No, absolutely, and certainly not in ninety when John Howard
- 46:00Speaker 14: was opposition leader in Poor Keating's government, actually introduced those
- 46:04Speaker 14: official flags. The two indigenous flags is official. He waved
- 46:08Speaker 14: it through thought pretty well, no, we don't want to
- 46:11Speaker 14: cause any trouble if he don't want any pain or
- 46:12Speaker 14: agny about it. But look at the pain and agony
- 46:15Speaker 14: it's caused. I mean, look at the way that it's
- 46:17Speaker 14: become a really divisive issue and it symbolizes division in
- 46:21Speaker 14: our society when really we should be talking about what
- 46:24Speaker 14: he regits us. And when you see people like Adam
- 46:26Speaker 14: Bant running away from being photographed in front of the
- 46:30Speaker 14: Australian plague, I just think that's absolutely shameful.
- 46:34Speaker 2: I think our Vectans have a lot to say about
- 46:36Speaker 2: this privately as well. Victoria Police are investigating how on Earth.
- 46:40Speaker 2: A former CFM you boss, John Setka, managed to get
- 46:43Speaker 2: onto the side of one of state's largest construction sites
- 46:47Speaker 2: today when he launched an expletely filled rant at labor
- 46:51Speaker 2: have a listen, so you know what why.
- 46:54Speaker 7: Jobs in particular union? It's members how going to be
- 46:56Speaker 7: gone a few months?
- 46:57Speaker 2: They want to scap and I'll give you a scop.
- 47:05Speaker 7: Now.
- 47:05Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's calling on Labor to crack down on this union.
- 47:08Speaker 2: It says it's banned donations from the CFMU, but there's
- 47:12Speaker 2: nothing to stop them funding the Greens or the Teals
- 47:16Speaker 2: and all of that's a backdoor donation to Labor. James,
- 47:19Speaker 2: surely every party, every candidate has to say they will
- 47:23Speaker 2: rule out CFMU donations.
- 47:28Speaker 8: Yeah, and they should. Labor may have taken the stance
- 47:30Speaker 8: at this election. We've never as one nation taken money
- 47:34Speaker 8: from the CFMU. In fact, I don't think we've taken
- 47:36Speaker 8: money from any of the unions across the country. I
- 47:39Speaker 8: don't think union members want their dues going towards political parties.
- 47:43Speaker 7: That's not the purpose of unions.
- 47:46Speaker 8: They're not the slush fund for in this case, the
- 47:48Speaker 8: Labor Party or as the Greens are doing.
- 47:51Speaker 7: There they're you know, snuggling.
- 47:52Speaker 8: Up pretty close to the CFMU to see if they
- 47:54Speaker 8: can get a few.
- 47:55Speaker 7: Bucks out of them. No, that is not what the
- 47:57Speaker 7: purpose of unions are for. They rule the room.
- 48:00Speaker 8: In fact, it's the unions that choose all the political
- 48:03Speaker 8: ministerial positions for labor. And as soon as we get
- 48:07Speaker 8: rid of them, if it's good enough to ban developers,
- 48:09Speaker 8: if it's developers a band here in Queensland from giving donations,
- 48:13Speaker 8: I think that should be extended to union's wholest ballast
- 48:17Speaker 8: right across the country.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Yes, James, you're right to remind us that the unions
- 48:23Speaker 2: choose who becomes ministers in a labor government. The Prime
- 48:26Speaker 2: minister just gets to hand out the portfolios. Can't sack,
- 48:30Speaker 2: can't high I can't do much with them all once
- 48:32Speaker 2: they're there. This breaking news this afternoon, Terry. The communications
- 48:37Speaker 2: are Electrical and Plumbing Union. They've voted now to split
- 48:41Speaker 2: out from the ACTU. People are saying that this is historic,
- 48:46Speaker 2: this is a really big issue. It's huge news this afternoon,
- 48:51Speaker 2: and of course it will it'll rupture the ACTU. People
- 48:56Speaker 2: say they're feed income. This fight is real and it
- 48:58Speaker 2: will impact labor heavily at the new election. What's your thoughts, Well.
- 49:03Speaker 14: I think it certainly will in the sense that the
- 49:06Speaker 14: ACTU needs to be united and needs to actually get
- 49:08Speaker 14: behind labor if Labor is actually going to have a
- 49:10Speaker 14: hope of staying in government, either in majority of a minority.
- 49:14Speaker 14: And the fact that the ETU has taken the side
- 49:17Speaker 14: of the CFM EU and John Sedka says a lot
- 49:20Speaker 14: about about the state of the union movement in Australia
- 49:22Speaker 14: as well. I mean, if these are friends of labor,
- 49:26Speaker 14: God help us with knowing who their enemies are. It's
- 49:28Speaker 14: just it's going to be a real battle royal between
- 49:31Speaker 14: now and the election. And I think the only people
- 49:33Speaker 14: who are going to be really happy about it are
- 49:35Speaker 14: the Federal Coalition.
- 49:39Speaker 2: Hey James, we've got about thirty seconds. But King Island
- 49:41Speaker 2: Dairy no more, shut down by their foreign owner.
- 49:47Speaker 8: What a shame, and said dairy farmers right across this
- 49:49Speaker 8: country have been struggling for a long time. Electricity prices
- 49:53Speaker 8: don't help, water charges don't help, and so the imports
- 49:57Speaker 8: don't help either.
- 49:59Speaker 7: It just go to the heart we've lost.
- 50:01Speaker 8: We've gone from fifteen hundred dairy farms here in Queensland
- 50:03Speaker 8: to just under three hundred. It is a sad day
- 50:06Speaker 8: to know that a dairy farm with one hundred and
- 50:08Speaker 8: twenty years where the history will be no more come
- 50:11Speaker 8: next year.
- 50:11Speaker 7: Real, real shame.
- 50:14Speaker 2: It's a shock, it's absolutely Shockack Jens, thank you have
- 50:16Speaker 2: a lovely weekend. You too, my dear viewers. I'll see
- 50:19Speaker 2: you Monday at six up. Next and your bolt