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Season 2 Episode 006 - From Student to Statistician: Making the Most of the PSI Medical Statistics Career Event · Veramed Stories

• 0:00
  Speaker 3: Hello everyone and welcome to today's episode of the VeraMed podcast.
• 0:04
  Speaker 3: I'm your host Sam, And Today i am joined by Jamal Webley who joined VeraMed The very same day that I did through the UK Graduate Training Programme or GTP back in two thousand twenty-four!
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: Im also joined by Emily Backhurst Who joined VeraMED all the way back In Two Thousand Seventeen!
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  Speaker 3: Today we will be discussing the PSI Medical Statistics Careers Event which is an event PSI hosts every year in the UK for undergraduates to come and talk with different companies regular webinars and scientific meetings, special interest groups training networking and other career development opportunities.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: I will first primarily be talking to Jamal about his experiences going as a student and returning as a speaker before shifting the conversation to Emily To give advice on making the best out of your time attending one of these events.
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  Speaker 2: So without further ado
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  Speaker 3: let's meet today's guests.
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  Speaker 2: Hello Jamal & Emily And welcome to The Varemant podcast!
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: Jamal would you like to introduce yourself?
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  Speaker 0: Of course, hello everybody.
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  Speaker 0: My name is Jamal.
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  Speaker 0: I'm a stat two here at Veramed and been here for the past two years now.
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  Speaker 0: myself and Sam joined on the GTP in twenty-twenty four And coincidentally it both went to the same University For undergraduate and to the samestas as well.
• 1:46
  Speaker 0: so It was it would.
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  Speaker 0: it was great to join up this in terms of
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was certainly interesting when we found out that We were going to be working together because for those the well For everybody.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: That will be unaware.
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  Speaker 2: even though we did the same masters and did the Same undergraduate I didn't know Jamal until The second half of our Masters.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: really We did no mutual.
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  Speaker 2: people in our undergraduate later found out but But only got to know each other once we realized who would potentially Working Together
• 2:17
  Speaker 0: And we both didn't even realize that we were applying for the same company anyway, so that was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah a real bonding moment
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  Speaker 0: for us.
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  Speaker 2: and then Emily we are also joined by you today.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: would you like to give a little background yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Yep hi I am Emily Backhurst.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: i have worked with Romed For nine years which is quite long time um in different kind of role than Sam & Jamal on support side of Romed.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: my titles people, culture and engagement manager which means I'm involved in a wide range of activities across internal communications employee engagement company culture events but realistically In this capacity.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: I am very meds graduate recruiter the UK And i've been doing that since twenty seventeen because i'm really passionate about early years careers.
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  Speaker 1: It's something like love.
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  Speaker 1: I Like giving people their first step on there career ladder And yeah, meeting people like Jamal and Sam on the way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we definitely met when we went to careers.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: fair but I will get that one week kind of touch on the topics more.
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  Speaker 2: so as i mentioned in the intro were first going to talk mainly to Jamal about his times at The Careers Event As I'll be calling it for the rest of this podcast.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: Jamal you said That You Kind Of Went On To Do Your Medical Masters.
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  Speaker 2: What did you kind of get up to before that?
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  Speaker 2: because?
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  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you didn't just go straight from your undergraduate two doing a masters.
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: You actually kind of went and did a little bit of working.
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  Speaker 0: That is true.
• 3:55
  Speaker 0: Let's true.
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  Speaker 0: so Whilst doing what undergraduate II did a placement year at IQ via which those of you who are familiar with the industry would know about Yeah, I was looking as a as a physical programmer And it was from that experience where I thought, that I wanted to go into this industry because i really enjoyed the analysis side.
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  Speaker 0: So From That point I decided To Go and work for another CRO in which I Was doing a very similar thing Pretty much The same kind of kind Of role and It's from there Where I Thought I'm Really Interested In The Stat Side Using That Skill that I have to help with the drug development process and helping people using the skills that i have.
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  Speaker 0: Originally, I wanted to do medicine but biology and chemistry weren't really my strong points.
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  Speaker 0: so...I thought alright!
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  Speaker 0: I'm okay at maths So how can I use this skill?
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  Speaker 0: help people to contribute to general human health,
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  Speaker 2: really.
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  Speaker 0: And it was from that I found this particular career path.
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  Speaker 0: so wanting to combine those two things were the push for me or motivation for me
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  Speaker 2: go
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  Speaker 0: through and do stats then end up?
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  Speaker 0: where am now?
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  Speaker 2: Nice, nice.
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  Speaker 2: And so in the past had you ever heard of these PSI medical stats careers events?
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  Speaker 2: At all like?
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  Speaker 2: what kind of pushed you into this direction
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  Speaker 0: then?
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  Speaker 0: Well whilst I was doing my master's degree it was it was advertised to me.
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  Speaker 0: I hadn't really heard about PSI before and What PSI did but after after hearing a hearing about PSA and also understanding what the organization stood for, how it helped many different people make connections with other people within the industry and also help people in early careers find.
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  Speaker 0: What they're passionate about on where they want to go?
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  Speaker 0: Where do you see their career going?
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  Speaker 0: I was very interested.
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  Speaker 0: so in November of the first semester of my master's degree, I went up to...I think it was Sheffield.
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  Speaker 0: And yeah sheffield and i attended the first well while my first PSI medical statistics career event where I met lots of different companies within The pharmaceutical sector looking for early careers and graduates and other students who were interested in these kind of careers.
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  Speaker 0: And it was there where at the VeraMed stand I met Emily, and obviously Patrick as well.
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  Speaker 0: but yes...it was there when Emily started to tell me about what it's like working at VeraMed that they did their and the rest
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no like is because I came with you.
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  Speaker 2: Well adjacent to this careers event and so yeah It's kind of just a great place where?
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  Speaker 2: You meet a bunch of these pharmaceutical companies or These CROs and things like that Where they can kind of give you A lot of information about what this industry includes.
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  Speaker 0: Yep it was really a turning point for me because by speaking to lots of different CRS companies, I realized that
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  Speaker 2: actually
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  Speaker 0: this is the kind of career which really draws on the skills and has enabled me to develop in so many ways both soft-skills but also in terms my technical ability.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah definitely!
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  Speaker 2: And you went back into this in.
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  Speaker 2: But then you the focus of this podcast is that you actually went in?
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  Speaker 2: twenty-twenty five.
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  Speaker 0: Yes,
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  Speaker 2: but Actually from
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  Speaker 0: the panel I
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  Speaker 2: suppose instead of as a student.
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  Speaker 0: Yeah
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  Speaker 2: How did yeah how did that kind of get up and get around them?
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  Speaker 0: yes so at That point There was an opportunity for someone from vermouth to go too the PSI medical stats career events in Cambridge.
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  Speaker 0: In twenty-twenty five
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  Speaker 1: and
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  Speaker 0: do a presentation for The prospective graduates of early, early careers to kind of tell them what it's like To work within the industry And What they should expect from a role at CRO but also at a pharmaceutical company in general.
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  Speaker 0: So I went there and delivered that presentation to the prospective students, they all seemed really engaged or were interested... It was very
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  Speaker 1: well received!
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  Speaker 0: We got some great feedback afterwards had loads of engagement so many students asking questions, trying to find
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  Speaker 2: out more.
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  Speaker 0: So yeah had a great time!
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  Speaker 3: Yeah
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  Speaker 2: no and I guess Emily you know i take it you reached out to Jamal specifically.
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  Speaker 2: uh was there any what kind of pushed you to want Jamal at this event?
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  Speaker 2: To advertise their bed?
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: in effect
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  Speaker 1: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: actually looking back...I can't believe its twenty thirty three when I met you both.
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  Speaker 1: but Some people you vividly remember and some people, You don't remember as much but I vividly Remember both of you.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: And Jamal had to go catch a train so i was kind Of walking the door with him trying To talk to him while he left.
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  Speaker 1: So when we do The PSI careers event We look back at past students And specifically try Focus on statisticians to go to it because It is medical statistics career affair organisation focused around statisticians.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: So we look at the statistician from the last two years basically and pick somebody who's personable, can talk and stuff like that And join us.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: so you take to people with us each year.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: um...and we just pick people random.
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  Speaker 1: I think i normally liaise with Somebody else as well on their GTP side.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah!
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  Speaker 1: We picked People At Random I think with Jamal, i really wanted somebody to do a really good presentation.
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  Speaker 1: so that presentation was outstanding and it really inspired loads of people there.
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  Speaker 1: It was a really in-depth detail presentation and...and it was very well liked!
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: And it was a great theatre, brilliant!
• 11:37
  Speaker 0: That's pretty nice though yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah!
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  Speaker 0: Very nice!
• 11:40
  Speaker 0: Yeah..I
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  Speaker 2: remember listening the run through before you went the first rendition of it.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I was pretty blown away by what you'd produced.
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  Speaker 2: so sounds like he made a good choice.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: Very
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  Speaker 0: kind.
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  Speaker 2: But one thing as well that I was under the impression off is that every company would go and do their own little presentation.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: but then afterwards when you told me that It Was Just You That You Were The Only One To Do While I Was Even Boss Shot What Did That Feel Like
• 12:13
  Speaker 0: Going?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah,
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  Speaker 0: it was I think at first.
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  Speaker 0: It was nerve-wracking because knowing that you're going to be doing a presentation and its almost your responsibility To inspire these students And and try and convince them That working in this industries for them or at least help with him term too decide on whether working indeed in the industry is for them.
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  Speaker 0: so I spoke to quite a lot of people at Verimenta, trying help with making sure that the presentation was as detailed but also it's clear and concise.
• 12:55
  Speaker 0: As possible... Making sure all the information students could possibly need for their decision Was in a ten minute presentation.
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  Speaker 0: And yeah It had been a lot work from and contribution from a few people here at Merrimad, getting some further feedback afterwards through a practice run-through was also very helpful.
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  Speaker 0: So I think after all of the kind back and forths and drafts everything we had something good which as you said Emily really helped to generate lots of interest and really helped students make that kind of decision to go forward with a career in this industry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, generally at PSI you're catching a lot of people in second year as well or going into third years so you don't often get an instant follow-through of applications and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So it can also be just inspiring them to go and study that masters.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a really great opportunity to speak with people.
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  Speaker 1: The way that the PSI, they actually do is there are new start-up presentation which is what Jamal did and then have panel where we have people across industry from different companies and set questions for them.
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  Speaker 1: We've had Patrick on that panel in twenty three when you guys
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  Speaker 2: were
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  Speaker 1: in Sheffield.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah its going be sheffield again at same venue this year, so yeah full circle moment again.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah very soon as well by the time this comes out I think it will be hopefully in about three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: and if being able to go see a presentation from Jamal and our panel to answer all of your questions isn't enough i remember very distinctly that...I feel like every company brought little freebies you could kind of take away my favourite being this little football I received Which was always fun.
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  Speaker 1: We love a promo item of our mud.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah did we get the hippo like little hippo paper holder?
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  Speaker 1: We've had fans socks We've got all sorts and I actually don't really know what we've got this year.
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  Speaker 1: so that's something interesting
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  Speaker 0: The octopus Charger thing.
• 15:33
  Speaker 0: Oh yeah, I think that's what we have.
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  Speaker 2: so would you say was your kind of overall impression off the event going as from The company and compared to go in as a student?
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  Speaker 0: It really shows you different perspective on.
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  Speaker 0: it shows You What is like?
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  Speaker 0: As a student almost because you're kind of trying to find out as much information as you can.
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  Speaker 0: And yeah, it was very interesting.
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  Speaker 0: I think for me...I'm not sure how it was for you Emily but i just tried to give them as much information that they possibly could try and answer their questions as possible.
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  Speaker 0: It turned out to be a very tiring day because there were so many people talking about losing your voice trying make yourself heard over everything else that's going around you, but yeah coming from the side I was last year.
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  Speaker 0: From the employer perspective it was a very rewarding day
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: no thats really nice to hear.
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  Speaker 0: is
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  Speaker 2: there anything else you'd like kind of bring up about your time at these careers Fez?
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  Speaker 0: i think one thing From the employer perspective, it's very rewarding.
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  Speaker 0: But I'd like to say from a student perspective if you really go into asking as much as you can trying to find out... As much as we can try and be as informed as we could.
• 17:13
  Speaker 0: It is great place for finding information that one may not get by just going online because getting to speak with potential employers Also getting to speak to programme coordinators from different masters universities as well.
• 17:33
  Speaker 0: Lots of questions that you may have in your mind can be answered just with a simple conversation, so I would definitely recommend
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  Speaker 2: going and
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  Speaker 0: getting to know the people that you might even be working within in the future.
• 17:50
  Speaker 0: So yeah...I would highly recommend it to anybody considering attending one these um careers events.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that Jamal and yeah to re-emphasize if you're a lot of people it feels on a mass degree.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: myself include in A bunch of people I knew they didn't know what They wanted to do kind of when they started And going into one Of these Events.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: It helps Open doors and it helps closed doors which will help narrow your search To exactly What You want to Do.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: so?
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  Speaker 2: That's definitely recommended.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: i would say
• 18:26
  Speaker 0: yep Right, true.
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  Speaker 2: But Emily I did kind of want to ask you some questions more about what it's like because how many of these events have you been through?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I think its nine years.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I started attending in twenty eighteen.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: so yeah nine years.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: i think my first one was in Leicester and And we were really worried.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We're going to get stuck in Leicester!
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a very funny cruise event.
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  Speaker 1: but yeah nine years.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Wow yes so you've been to Nine.
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  Speaker 2: so you definitely spoke into a lot of students and people that are aspiring to potentially join the industry.
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  Speaker 2: So do kind-of have... Do know how best way to stand out as a graduate because these would be the people you remember and maybe, you
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  Speaker 0: know
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  Speaker 2: things they do.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: that will help.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah sometimes I just can't place what it is about.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: somebody like i said with YouTube but in my head visualise meeting you?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Like In My Head I've got Sam's leather jacket standing infront of me!
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and Jamal walking out the room because it was just at the end, I called him.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: We had a great conversation but you were like,"I've got to go catch
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: train.".
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Some people can't remember.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: so firstly for us as business its communication that we look out for most of them are not scared to network in these events.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You have to remember where consultancy work with clients.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: all The students that impressed me the most at PSI are not the ones with highest grades and smart statistics answers.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It's the one asking the best questions to me, about Varamade And people who have done their research or know Who they need speak too.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: because Realistically, you go in that room and like you said it's really overwhelming.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of people there is lots to speak too And You could do five stands.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: be very overwhelmed.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Get through the five stand then your information overloaded.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say to research companies beforehand which ones have the right location for What are you looking for?
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  Speaker 1: a job?
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  Speaker 1: Are you looking from placement.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what do you look in for going into this and why you're looking for masters And I think that's key to it because there just not isn't enough time to focus on them all unlike Jamal running out of room To go catch his train, you know It's.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: if he spent few more seconds at each other stand He might have met Veramed.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So its about key to Looking through and Researching knowing what your want basically going into it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that would definitely be helpful in that.
• 21:35
  Speaker 0: I think i would agree with that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 0: yeah definitely going ahead and doing your research finding out what kind of companies you are interested in is a big thing for In terms of preparation For an event like this because as Emily has said the communication aspect important because that is predominantly what the majority of your role will entail.
• 22:08
  Speaker 0: Having the technical skills, it's very important but being able to communicate information effectively is one of those skills which you can't really
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: learn
• 22:22
  Speaker 0: in a classroom where you can not learn through doing an assignment.
• 22:27
  Speaker 0: so in information when you've done your research.
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  Speaker 0: When you had some time to find out information about different companies that you're interested, and I think it was a key thing for me... ...when i came back into the careers event at what was it?
• 22:51
  Speaker 0: Twenty-three now!
• 22:53
  Speaker 0: I had an idea of the kind of company I wanted to see because needed more info on them very mad beforehand, and I knew that i was going to apply there anyway.
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  Speaker 0: so It wasn't as much of an importance for me To go and find out information about the company.
• 23:23
  Speaker 0: For me it was important to meet The people yeah And sometimes just having their conversation to meet People As Emily has said really helps with making you stand out because sometimes it's beyond those kind of normal conversations that you make yourself almost memorable in a way.
• 23:47
  Speaker 0: So yes, I had one hundred percent echo what Emily is saying.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Hence the losing voice on the employer side!
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: We tend to do a lot talking at these events when we attend and its very busy
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And you're more than happy to lose your voice, be able talk with all these people.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: That's why we go year and year
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: out Emily!
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  Speaker 1: I brief the other employees when they go like Jamal... ...and then I remember Jamal sitting on a train in their way home going.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: You were right!
• 24:25
  Speaker 0: I didn't think that it was gonna be bad but its just constantly
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So many people.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It's a very short period and they're just, sometimes queue up for you.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And I think because Jamal did the presentation as well that year The people were waiting to speak to him so he didn't really stop.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: be surprised if we'd signed any autographs.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: To be honest They would have like wow can you sign my... What was something they could've given out?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: My notepad.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and you know I know a lot of people can be quite nervous when coming to talk to You guys but i think it should kind of be stressed.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: everybody Every employee is there To talk do like they want to talk too.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: so this Absolutely.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah obviously It Can Be intimidating?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Well There's nothing to be super afraid Of because They're not going to turn around And say no i don't Want to Talk to you Like They are there to Kind of yeah Talked to.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: So.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And I do have one final question before we get kind of to the end of the podcast questions.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Emily, when would you say is the best time to apply?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Anytime really!
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: If you go on our websites and access UKGDP page through our career section.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: so go look there...I can't emphasise enough how important it submit your application early.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: We actually have applications open now, which is the earliest I think we've ever done it because we just didn't seem to point in closing them cause and we know were going to be hiring a few roles in twenty-twenty
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: seven.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: so
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: for us um...we're currently got applications opened for October.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Twenty-Twenty Seven And begin interviewing candidates in January or February.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: but recruit on what's called rolling basis which means positions are filled one by one from January and February onwards.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: As soon as we identify a candidate that's right for us, we will hire.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: so do not wait the closing date!
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That is the problem.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think we have... A lot of people wait for their closing day.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they might be applying when on our last roll or second to last role where we've already recruited seven other people.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: So if you really want to work at Varamad, then get an application in it early.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: It's what I would say don't wait to secure a position?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i agree.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: just... If you know What You Want To Look Into Just Send An Application Out and Kind of See What Happens.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: And Of Course At These Venues I Assume We Have A Little QR Code That People Could Scan To Kindof Find Where To Apply.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: As Well
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: We do actually the QR code on-stand and this is really important.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It takes you to a page where you can put in your contact details, so you can say to us your name what university are studying at or what you're studying?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And then your email address.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Basically that will come straight to me and I'll be able send you an e-mailer with all lots of different links like link for this podcast which i'll add and links to other things, um...to give people resources.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: To learn more about the industry because we're very much big on training development and educating people in this industry.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so even if I send them an email And tell them more about The Industry and educate them Even further than PSI Careers Fair did.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that's a big bonus for me Very passionate about teaching People you know?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: The right pathway to go down it also could be their interest in programmer roles And that is also available through us, as well as automation engineer and data science positions.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Um That are coming up as well.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 0: excellent.
• 28:17
  Speaker 0: wanted to say something else regarding the programmer roles.
• 28:21
  Speaker 0: so I think at The conference we had I mean At least i had quite a few come up To me asking about
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: um
• 28:31
  Speaker 0: their programming roles Aswell.
• 28:33
  Speaker 0: And I wanted to also stress that the PSI careers event isn't just
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: for
• 28:40
  Speaker 0: statisticians.
• 28:42
  Speaker 0: It's also for students who are looking to go via their programming route too, because... ...I think i had quite a few people who were all so interested in it and.. ..i think at this presentation , i kind of want say both of those options are available.
• 29:02
  Speaker 0: So if you're looking for a programming type role, please come along to a PSI Careers' Venue as well because there will be people who can tell what it's like to work in the programming roles?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah especially when you've studied data science and statistics or even computer science And your interested in programming an R. It is definitely really good career sphere for you.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: They actually have student registration still open at the moment and they close on November the fifth.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Um, twenty-twenty six if you're listening to this any other time after that... ...they open every year!
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And they will close around the same time of a year.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: so keep an eye on the PSI website.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is PSI web website for the careers fair next year?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: If you just search their website for PSI careers event You should be able find it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well thank you for letting everybody know about that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Well Thank You both For your time today to come and talk To me About the careers event.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I hope some people That have been listening Have learned a lot about these And hopefully have Been inspired to go check one out.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: But as a very med staple i do have A couple of questions that i would like to ask you Both.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: so ill start with Jamal Then Emily if u can answer it after
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: him
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: You a dog or are you a cat kind of guy?
• 30:27
  Speaker 0: Okay, right so
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I have
• 30:32
  Speaker 0: the cat and her name is Luna and Luna can be Lovely but she could also be temperamental.
• 30:42
  Speaker 0: that being said my fiance has a dog And he's the exact same.
• 30:49
  Speaker 0: So i don't know.
• 30:51
  Speaker 0: I feel like they both had this special place in world.
• 30:56
  Speaker 0: But do you know what if I have to make a decision on my team cat mate, Team
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Cat.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Wow he said it everyone!
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: i know people have asked you before and you've been on the fence but this confirms Jamal is the cat person.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Does
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: The Dog Get On With A Cat?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.
• 31:13
  Speaker 0: This is an interesting one But
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I could be on the fence as well because i would love to get a dog, but I am Team Cat.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent!
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I have my wonderful baby or Duchess Binks who's my only child and she is worshipped in this household.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: we have a royal photo of her, a buffer sofa.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it's hilarious um... And she was astray.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that turned up at our doorstep and everyone in the tricking office generally knows the story.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: cause basically cried out my desk for three days because the owners wanted her back when we found her as a stray and then they let have me.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: They let her have me,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: they let me have her!
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That's the same thing.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: yeah well We got couple cat lovers in The Call today it seems.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And my final question Jamal again if you could have dinner with three people dead or alive.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Who would they be?
• 32:22
  Speaker 0: Well I have some pre-prepared, rethought about answers here.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Wow that's so very prepared of you!
• 32:32
  Speaker 0: So the first person is the First Person on The Moon because there were lots of conspiracy theorists out there who don't believe that the moon landing was real...
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So
• 32:47
  Speaker 0: I want to speak to the First Personal On The Moon.
• 32:50
  Speaker 0: just get their input just to confirm that it happened.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you don't even want ask him about his experience on the moon?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: You just wanna know if it happened.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I mean
• 33:08
  Speaker 0: do you have any?
• 33:10
  Speaker 0: No Just uh...you know That is the main thing.
• 33:13
  Speaker 0: If they've got an added details then thats not a bonus But yeah..that's the Main Thing.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Well parallel to that I'd actually want to talk to the third guy That went on a journey because there was Neil Armstrong.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: There's Buzz
• 33:31
  Speaker 0: it was buzz
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and then there Was The Third Guy?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: And i'm gonna call him that specifically Because he didn't ever get To Actually Go On The Moon.
• 33:39
  Speaker 0: That's sad,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and I just Wanted How That Must Have Felt Like You Made It.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you've made This Big Journey your First Person There and You don't Touch Down.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You just kind of watch people have a bit fun, but no Neil Armstrong From the little window.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: We've got Neil Armstrong Jamal.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: who else is that?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Um okay
• 33:59
  Speaker 0: so The guy who invented the light bulb His name was
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah Edison.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: yeah
• 34:08
  Speaker 0: the reason why I want to speak to is because imagine Trying to make this thing work A thousand times and then still going.
• 34:22
  Speaker 0: I think he tried.
• 34:23
  Speaker 0: what was it?
• 34:23
  Speaker 0: Ten ten thousand times or a thousand times
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: but he probably
• 34:30
  Speaker 0: lots of time to try and get this laptop to work.
• 34:33
  Speaker 0: another thing, i could try that many times.
• 34:36
  Speaker 0: yeah after time.
• 34:38
  Speaker 0: no five hundred.
• 34:40
  Speaker 0: you're thinking now come on out.
• 34:43
  Speaker 0: Is this really gonna
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: work?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: You get to time five hundred.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, i'm about three attempts in and something's up.
• 34:52
  Speaker 0: So yes first experience amazing.
• 34:56
  Speaker 0: And finally This one might be a bit strange but there is the reason behind us The First Human Being Ever
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Pardon?
• 35:06
  Speaker 0: And I'll explain Imagine being the first human.
• 35:09
  Speaker 0: you've got no-one else like your out there.
• 35:12
  Speaker 0: We're just there by yourself.
• 35:14
  Speaker 0: No, we do not think...
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: So the first thing that mutated into The First Thing We Would Call A Human?
• 35:22
  Speaker 0: Where is everybody else?
• 35:23
  Speaker 0: you know That's how I'd be feeling.
• 35:26
  Speaker 0: so yes well i don't know what it was like to be one of
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: them.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I assume they come with a translator.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: if There
• 35:35
  Speaker 0: Is One I'm sure
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: people
• 35:38
  Speaker 0: translate along.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: If there is somebody who knows the first human language and
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: English, of course.
• 35:46
  Speaker 0: Ah you know, logistical problems can deal with themselves
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Hey I like that.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: so we've got Neil Armstrong Thomas Edison Jamal Webley And i don't even know their name for this person but The First Human Being You know what, if we could get a fourth person there.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Get me on that table I just want to watch it!
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Especially
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: when he sees a light bulb.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: well Emily
• 36:39
  Speaker 0: um
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: are your answers as
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: creative?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Mine are going to be closely less intellectual than yours.
• 36:47
  Speaker 0: Okay
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: more down-to-earth like I can't imagine at dinner party with people i didn't know.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: so it has to do with people that were really down to earth.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: and the first person I'd have to have is my mum who passed away five years ago not to be like morbid or anything, but it would be a riot.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And then I'd have Billy Connolly the Scottish Comedian because he's absolutely hilarious and is a glass region which was my mum as well.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: so i would love to have them!
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: The third one that I've debated over for so long on hard... ...and I can't decide.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: so I'm just going to have those two and have a small intimate dinner party with three of us.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: But if..I was debating between Either an artist that I really like.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Like Cezanne or Michael Brendon Wood, something like that someone i don't know at all Or a musical artist like Adele who's really down to earth but just couldn't decide Really?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So im gonna stick with my three.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Really comely would be a riot.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: We'd have a few gels and it'll be great!
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah your dinner party sounds more like a nice fluid conversation going on comparatively speaking, but it does sound nice.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: So
• 38:06
  Speaker 0: in my mind I'd be speaking to each of them on three separate dinners.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Wow!
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Paying for three meals tomorrow?
• 38:15
  Speaker 0: If the very minute expense budget will... Of course.
• 38:19
  Speaker 0: I thought
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the first human couldn't even speak!
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: We have a translator, we've already covered this... So language human?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: ...we're going to get like a rock and they can draw their little diagram.
• 38:33
  Speaker 0: Hungry.
• 38:34
  Speaker 0: yes okay
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: here eat.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: They are gonna be blown away by kind of food that we now have compared with what you would
• 38:40
  Speaker 0: have been eating.
• 38:42
  Speaker 0: Cutlery as well if ya know.
• 38:43
  Speaker 0: That will be a complete surprise.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Well It's just the little things, I mean even a chair.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Come on!
• 38:51
  Speaker 0: Yeah now that we're talking about it seems like quite a logistical challenge.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: No i like or keeping it right.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: let's wrap this thing up.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: thank you both again for coming on answering some of the silly questions at the end and giving us a nice rundown over careers event.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: uh...I think its been very insightful.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you everyone else that has tuned in to listen, and I hope you've gained some sort of knowledge from this overall.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: So thank you very much!