Latest / Reformed Thinking / Is True Virtue Based on Feeling or Objective Reality? | Jonathan Edwards
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- 0:00Imagine stepping into an alternate universe for a second.
- 0:03A place where cruelty tastes sweet on the tongue and, you
- 0:07know, an act of genuine kindness actually makes you physically
- 0:09nauseous. Oh wow, that is quite the image.
- 0:13Right. It is a horrific thought
- 0:15experiment, but it brings up a real question.
- 0:17Could God have created a world where torturing an innocent
- 0:21person was considered objectively good?
- 0:24I mean, it sounds unthinkable. It does, but getting to the
- 0:27bottom of why the answer to that question is an absolute
- 0:30resounding Noel. It requires us to figure out how
- 0:33human beings actually sense right and wrong in the first
- 0:35place. Yeah, that is the real core of
- 0:37it. So welcome to reformed thinking.
- 0:39Today we are opening up a rather astonishing text by Jonathan
- 0:43Edwards. We are looking at his essay, The
- 0:45Nature of True Virtue. Yeah, and we are asking a highly
- 0:48specific question about the mechanics of human morality.
- 0:52Is recognizing A moral good a math problem that we calculate
- 0:55through pure logic, or is it an innate sense, like something
- 0:59operating much closer to the physical way we taste our food?
- 1:02It is a massive question, honestly, and Edwards approaches
- 1:05it with an incredibly analytical, almost surgical eye.
- 1:08He really does. He is trying to isolate the
- 1:10absolute bedrock of what makes a good thing good, and more than
- 1:14that, he wants to understand the mechanism of how we as humans
- 1:18perceive that goodness on a daily basis.
- 1:20Right, he doesn't want to just give us a list of rules.
- 1:23Spot on. He wants to dissect the anatomy
- 1:26of moral perception itself. So right off the bat, before we
- 1:29can even touch the concept of morality, Edwards forces the
- 1:32reader to define beauty. Yes, she equates virtue with a
- 1:36certain kind of beautiful nature, form or quality.
- 1:39But we have to clarify something right now for everyone
- 1:41listening. When he says beauty, he isn't
- 1:43talking about like a painting in a museum or a nice sunset over
- 1:47the ocean. No, not at all.
- 1:48Yeah, he is speaking about a quality that appears agreeable
- 1:51or comely in itself. The phrase he leans on is
- 1:54immediately pleasant to the mind.
- 1:56Immediately. Pleasant.
- 1:57Yeah. That immediacy is the hinge of
- 1:59his entire opening argument. He draws a massive, sharp line
- 2:02between utility and true beauty. I see.
- 2:05So if you like something because of what it produces, that is
- 2:08indirect. That's right.
- 2:09Let's ground this so it does not stay floating in the
- 2:12philosophical clouds. Let's say I go to the hardware
- 2:15store, look at a really well designed shovel and think, well
- 2:18that is a fantastic. Shovel.
- 2:20OK, a shovel. But I am not experiencing an
- 2:23immediate visceral sensation of beauty.
- 2:26I am running a very fast pragmatic calculation in my
- 2:30head. Cost benefit analysis,
- 2:31basically. Yeah, this shovel is built well,
- 2:34so it will dig holes efficiently.
- 2:36Those holes will allow me to plant apple trees.
- 2:39And you like apples? I do like apples, so the shovel
- 2:42is a means to an end. It is agreeable to me indirectly
- 2:45based on a chain of future events.
- 2:47And Edward states plainly that such indirect agreeableness is
- 2:50not beauty. Really, he just writes it off.
- 2:52He calls that being eligible for something else with which it is
- 2:55connected. True beauty hits you when a form
- 2:58or equality appears lovely and pleasing in itself, completely
- 3:01devoid of any future calculations.
- 3:03You do not run the math. No math at all.
- 3:06The sensation of the idea is immediate upon perception.
- 3:09He uses a very physical, tactile example in the text that I love.
- 3:14He talks about tasting the sweetness of honey.
- 3:16Oh yeah, that is a great one. Think about putting a spoonful
- 3:19of raw honey into your mouth. You do not deduce that it is
- 3:22sweet through a series of logical syllogisms.
- 3:25Right, you do not sit there and analyze the chemical composition
- 3:29of the fructose. No, and you don't map out the
- 3:31nutritional benefits to your body and then conclude.
- 3:34Therefore, I shall now experience sweetness.
- 3:37That would be ridiculous. The physical sensation bypasses
- 3:40all of that logic. You just taste it.
- 3:43The harmony of a tune is another vivid illustration he provides.
- 3:46Oh, so how does he frame that? Well, hearing a perfectly
- 3:49resolved musical chord does not require you to read a
- 3:52dissertation on acoustics or sound wave frequencies to feel
- 3:56the resolution. You just hear the chord and it
- 3:58feels right, yeah. We are made in such a way that
- 4:00the idea, as soon as it hits the mind, is grateful.
- 4:04It appears beautiful instantly. So if we apply this to moral
- 4:08goodness, watching someone perform a truly selfless act of
- 4:13charity should hit us like that spoonful of honey.
- 4:16In a structural yes, that is what he argues.
- 4:20We come by the idea of moral beauty, by an immediate
- 4:23sensation of the gratefulness of the idea.
- 4:26OK. It is not by finding out through
- 4:29argumentation any consequences. So if you see an act of true
- 4:32virtue, you do not have to map out a 10 year economic
- 4:35projection of how that specific charitable act will increase
- 4:40society's overall productivity to know it is a good act. 100%
- 4:45you perceive the beauty of the act immediately.
- 4:48Because if you only value the charitable act for the societal
- 4:51benefits while you are back at the hardware store looking at
- 4:54the shovel. You value the utility of the
- 4:56act, the pragmatism of it, but not the beauty of the virtue
- 4:59itself. That is a huge dividing line.
- 5:01It is true virtue is delightful in itself.
- 5:04But, and this is where he adds a critical layer, this relies
- 5:07heavily on what Edwards calls the frame of our minds.
- 5:09The frame of our minds. Yeah, we perceive this moral
- 5:12beauty because our minds are framed or designed to receive it
- 5:15that way. Wait, I am struggling with this
- 5:17conclusion. I have to push back here for a
- 5:19second Sir, go ahead. If virtue is just a taste based
- 5:22on the frame of our minds, aren't we just talking about
- 5:24blatant moral relativism? I see where you're going.
- 5:27Like who's to say my taste buds are right and someone else's are
- 5:30wrong? If someone else is framed to
- 5:32think that cruelty tastes like honey, what stops them from
- 5:35saying their truth is just as valid as mine?
- 5:38That is the big question. If it is all about an immediate
- 5:41sensation that feels like reason is thrown out the window
- 5:43entirely, well. That is the exact trap Edward
- 5:46sets up to dismantle. He knows that is the natural
- 5:49objection. So how does he get out of it?
- 5:52He argues that this perception comes not by argumentation on
- 5:56connections and consequences, but by the frame of our minds,
- 5:59which he explicitly describes as a spiritual sense given of God.
- 6:04But if God gives this sense, couldn't God have just flipped a
- 6:07coin at the dawn of creation? A coin flip.
- 6:09Yeah, you know, heads kindness is the moral good.
- 6:12Tails, cruelty is the moral good.
- 6:15If it is just a sentiment programmed into us by a creator,
- 6:18it still feels totally arbitrary.
- 6:21Edwards anticipates that specific, very heavy theological
- 6:25objection. If the inward sense, whereby the
- 6:28mind is disposed to delight in true virtue, is given
- 6:31arbitrarily, we have a catastrophic philosophical
- 6:34problem. He asks the question point
- 6:37blank. Could God, if He had pleased,
- 6:41given a contrary sense and determination of mind?
- 6:44Could he have made a universe where cruelty was the beautiful
- 6:47thing? Yes.
- 6:48And would that have agreed just as well with the necessary
- 6:50nature of things? He has to say no to that.
- 6:53He says an absolute categorical no.
- 6:55OK, good. The inward sense is not an
- 6:56arbitrary assignment. Edwards argues fiercely against
- 6:59the idea that a contrary sense could align with reality.
- 7:03So the moral sense we have, the one that tastes goodness as
- 7:05sweet, is the only possible sense.
- 7:08It is the only possible sense that actually aligns with the
- 7:10fundamental fabric of reality. OK, so the sentiment is tied to
- 7:13something objective. It is not just a random flavor
- 7:16preference God decided to download into our hardware.
- 7:18No, not at all. But what makes it necessary?
- 7:21Why couldn't the script be flipped?
- 7:23What is this necessary nature of things that Edwards points to as
- 7:26the anchor? To answer that, we must look at
- 7:29how Edwards defines true virtue in its absolute essence.
- 7:34He boils it down to a very dense phrase.
- 7:36Lay it on me. He calls it the cordial consent
- 7:39or union of being to being in general.
- 7:41Wow, the cordial consent or union of being to being in
- 7:45general? Yes, that sounds like high level
- 7:47academic metaphysics. I need to know what that
- 7:50actually looks like on a Tuesday morning.
- 7:52Like how does a regular person participate in being in general?
- 7:55Let's unpack the terms carefully.
- 7:57Being in general refers to existence itself.
- 7:59So everything. The sum total of reality, the
- 8:02entire created order, and the creator behind it.
- 8:05OK. And what about cordial consent?
- 8:07Cordial consent means a union of the heart, an agreement, a
- 8:11fundamentally benevolent frame of mind toward existence.
- 8:14So true virtue is, at its core, a loving agreement with the fact
- 8:17that things exist. Spot on.
- 8:19So if my temper is to love being in general, I must naturally
- 8:23approve of others who also love being in general.
- 8:26Yes, it is a disposition of benevolence toward reality
- 8:29itself. I see.
- 8:30And this is how he proves God could not arbitrarily make
- 8:34cruelty the standard. A contrary temper, meaning a
- 8:37disposition that loves opposition to existence, or a
- 8:40temper that hates being, is a plain absurdity.
- 8:43Why is it absurd? It is contrary to the very
- 8:46supposition of reality. Think about it mathematically.
- 8:50Agreement with existence must necessarily fit better with
- 8:53general existence then opposition and contrariety to
- 8:57it. Let's visualize what warring
- 8:59against reality actually looks like.
- 9:00Let's go back to our thought experiment from the start.
- 9:03If God mandated the hatred of existence was the moral ideal,
- 9:07he would be mandating A literal war against himself, because the
- 9:11text connects God inextricably with being in general.
- 9:14God is the ultimate reality. He's the source, the foundation,
- 9:17and the sustainer of all existence, right?
- 9:19Therefore, without any doubt, it is logically necessary that God
- 9:22should agree with himself. He must be united with himself.
- 9:25He must love himself. Because if God did not love
- 9:28himself, or if He opposed his own existence, the universe
- 9:31would unravel instantly. It is an ontological
- 9:34impossibility. So when God gives a benevolent
- 9:37temper to his creatures, this is agreeable to his necessary
- 9:41nature. Yes, if he were to give
- 9:43creatures an opposite temper, A temper that hates existence,
- 9:47that would be infinitely contrary to his own necessary
- 9:51nature. It would create infinite discord
- 9:53between the creator and the creature.
- 9:55And not just vertical discord between the creator and the
- 9:58creature. What else?
- 9:59Horizontal discord among created beings themselves.
- 10:03If any particular created being had a temper to oppose being in
- 10:06general, that infers the greatest possible friction.
- 10:10It is the ultimate antisocial behavior, right?
- 10:13If your fundamental disposition is to oppose existence, you are
- 10:16fundamentally opposed to everyone and everything around
- 10:19you. It is a terrifying concept,
- 10:21honestly. He is using this extreme thought
- 10:23experiment to prove that our moral sense is not an arbitrary
- 10:26setting on a dial. It is the only setting that
- 10:29allows for a cohesive universe. Any other setting results in
- 10:32immediate structural collapse. Yeah, So beyond the cosmic scale
- 10:36of God's nature and universal existence, Edwards brings this
- 10:40argument down to a very intimate human psychological level.
- 10:44He does. He argues that this benevolent
- 10:46temper is the only one that allows a person to agree with
- 10:49themselves without having contradictory or repugnant
- 10:52inclinations. He builds this on a very
- 10:54specific premise regarding human nature.
- 10:57He states that every being that has understanding and a will
- 11:01necessarily loves happiness. Because to suppose any being
- 11:05does not love happiness is to suppose they do not love what is
- 11:08agreeable to them. Which is a literal contradiction
- 11:11in terms. Even someone making a highly
- 11:12self-destructive choice, let's say an addict, engaging in
- 11:15behavior they know is ruining their life, right?
- 11:18They're doing so because they're twisted.
- 11:19Perception views that substance, in that brief moment, as the
- 11:22most agreeable option available, or at least a temporary relief
- 11:26from something less agreeable. Edward states it with blunt
- 11:29logic. To say a being does not love
- 11:31what is agreeable to him implies nothing is eligible to him.
- 11:35He would have no faculty of choice.
- 11:37He would have no will. So premise one, we all want to
- 11:40be happy. We are biologically and
- 11:43spiritually wired for it. That's premise 1.
- 11:45Premise 2 To avoid having internal desires constantly
- 11:50fighting each other, a person must approve of inclinations
- 11:53that desire the happiness of being in general.
- 11:56Yes, but I have to ask why? Why can't I just want happiness
- 12:00for myself and want misery for everyone else?
- 12:03Why can't I be successfully, happily selfish?
- 12:05Well, Edwards. Points out that if you had a
- 12:07temper inclining you to love the misery of being in general, and
- 12:10that temper prevailed universally, it tends to
- 12:13universal misery. And since I am part of the
- 12:15universe, a part of being in general, a tendency toward
- 12:18universal misery is a tendency toward my own misery.
- 12:20Spot on. If you love universal misery,
- 12:22you in effect love a tendency to your own misery.
- 12:25Oh. Wow.
- 12:26But we already established in the first premise that you
- 12:28naturally hate your own misery and love your own happiness,
- 12:31right? Thus you would be torn apart by
- 12:32contradictory desires. You would have one inclination
- 12:35completely repugnant to another. You would be structurally self
- 12:38inconsistent. I cannot build a coherent
- 12:40psychology on a desire for universal destruction because I
- 12:44am trapped inside the very universe I want to destroy.
- 12:47That is a great way to put it. It is like drilling massive
- 12:50holes in the bottom of a wooden rowboat I am currently sitting
- 12:54in. I'm cheering loudly as the cold
- 12:56water rushes in while simultaneously desperately
- 12:59wanting to stay dry. Yeah, the desires cannot coexist
- 13:03without tearing your mind apart. And Edwards adds another layer
- 13:06to this internal contradiction involving the concept of self
- 13:09love and the desire to be loved by others.
- 13:11I find this observation so universally true.
- 13:15The text says it necessarily follows from self love that men
- 13:19love to be loved by others. When others love you, their love
- 13:22agrees with your own love for yourself.
- 13:24It is a reinforcing feedback loop.
- 13:26You value yourself, so you appreciate it when someone else
- 13:28also recognizes that value. But look at what happens if a
- 13:32person claims to love universal hatred.
- 13:34Right, let's play that out. If your core temper is opposed
- 13:37to being in general, if you champion hatred and discord,
- 13:41then you are championing a system where everyone hates
- 13:43everything. Meaning everyone would hate you.
- 13:46Absolutely. And if you love this system of
- 13:49universal hatred, you would in effect be loving the hatred of
- 13:53yourself. But yourself love naturally
- 13:55recoils from being hated. You shrink away from.
- 13:58It so once again it is a logical impossibility to maintain self
- 14:01consistency while opposing universal benevolence.
- 14:05You would have one natural inclination fighting a brutal,
- 14:08endless war against another. This is why Edwards says there
- 14:10is no other temper but benevolence whereby a man can
- 14:13agree with himself. Any other fundamental posture
- 14:16toward reality creates massive internal cognitive dissonance.
- 14:21Because this benevolent temper aligns so perfectly with both
- 14:24cosmic reality and our own internal psychological logic,
- 14:28possessing it does something very specific to the human mind.
- 14:30What does it do? It grants a person a unique kind
- 14:33of clarity. This is a fascinating,
- 14:35fascinating pivot. In the text, Edwards takes time
- 14:37to examine why the sacred scriptures frequently call this
- 14:40spiritual divine sense by names like light, knowledge, and
- 14:43understanding. We started this entire
- 14:46conversation by comparing this sense to tasting honey, a
- 14:49physical feeling, a sentiment. But now Edwards is saying this
- 14:53feeling is actually a form of objective knowledge.
- 14:56How does it taste become truth? It comes back to the idea of
- 15:00correspondence. If the moral sense were
- 15:02completely arbitrary, if God had just flipped a coin to decide
- 15:05what felt good to us, then the ideas we get from that sense
- 15:09would not represent anything real outside our own heads.
- 15:12It would be an illusion. A pleasant matrix we are plugged
- 15:15into, totally divorced from actual reality.
- 15:18Edwards argues that if there were no correspondence in such a
- 15:21sense with the nature of things, the idea we obtained by it could
- 15:24in no respect be said to be a knowledge or perception of
- 15:27anything besides what was in our own minds.
- 15:29It'd be no representation of anything without.
- 15:31But because we have established that this sense is not
- 15:34arbitrary, that it perfectly aligns with the necessary nature
- 15:37of things, and specifically with the moral perfection of the
- 15:40divine being, then this feeling of beauty is actually a signal.
- 15:45A signal. I like that.
- 15:46It is a receiver tuning into a real external frequency.
- 15:50Yes, since it is agreeable to the nature of things, It is the
- 15:54representation of the moral perfection and Excellency of the
- 15:57Divine being. OK, hereby we have a perception
- 16:01of that moral Excellency of which we could have no true idea
- 16:04without it. So when you witness an act of
- 16:07true selfless benevolence and you feel that immediate
- 16:11sensation of its beauty, you are not just having a nice emotional
- 16:15reaction based on societal conditioning.
- 16:17No, you were doing much more than that.
- 16:18You are actually perceiving a hard fact about the universe.
- 16:21You are acquiring true knowledge of God's nature.
- 16:25And this true knowledge, Edwards argues, greatly enlightens the
- 16:28mind. It assists persons to a right
- 16:30understanding of things in general, allowing them to see
- 16:33the nature and truth of things in their proper evidence.
- 16:35The light of this spiritual sense illuminates the rest of
- 16:38reality. It is a lens that brings the
- 16:40entire universe into sharp focus.
- 16:42Let's look at the dark side of this coin.
- 16:44Let's look at what happens when you lack this spiritual sense.
- 16:48Edwards issues a stark warning here.
- 16:50He states with the want or lack of the spiritual sense, and the
- 16:54prevalence of contrary dispositions tends to darken and
- 16:58distract the mind, and dreadfully to delude and
- 17:00confound men's understandings. Darken and distract the mind.
- 17:04That is a terrifying phrase. Bad morals lead to bad thinking.
- 17:08It is not just that you are doing bad things.
- 17:11Your actual ability to reason, your cognitive processing power
- 17:16becomes compromised. Think back to the internal
- 17:19contradictions we just analyzed with the boat analogy.
- 17:21If your dispositions are contrary to being in general,
- 17:24you are constantly fighting your own natural inclinations for
- 17:27happiness and self consistency. Your mind is violently divided.
- 17:31You were trying to rationalize a posture toward a reality that
- 17:33fundamentally clashes with reality itself.
- 17:36Think about watching someone embrace highly destructive
- 17:38desires or a lifestyle rooted in tearing others down.
- 17:42What usually happens to their logic over a span of years?
- 17:45Their ability to reason objectively about the world
- 17:47around them seems to degrade. They become paranoid.
- 17:50Right. They start constructing bizarre,
- 17:53convoluted rationalizations to justify their behavior.
- 17:57Their understanding becomes confounded, just as the text
- 18:00says. Because they are trying to
- 18:01navigate a universe built on connection and benevolence using
- 18:05a compass explicitly calibrated for discord and opposition.
- 18:09Nothing is ever going to make sense to them.
- 18:11The data they receive from the world will constantly frustrate
- 18:14them. Because they are misinterpreting
- 18:16the fundamental laws of motion of the moral universe.
- 18:19So possessing the spiritual sense is like having the
- 18:21floodlights turned on in a pitch black warehouse.
- 18:24Sure, you can suddenly see where the machinery is so you do not
- 18:27keep walking into it and injuring yourself.
- 18:29But wait, this brings up a massive, highly practical
- 18:32objection that I'm sure anyone listening is thinking about
- 18:35right now. I know exactly the hurdle we
- 18:36have hit. If only those given a specific
- 18:39spiritual sense from God can see this true beauty and have this
- 18:43light, how is it that ordinary people, people who might not
- 18:47claim to have any sort of divine spiritual awakening, still seem
- 18:51to have a highly functional working moral compass?
- 18:54Right, that is a fair observation.
- 18:56We all know people who might lack this specific divine sense,
- 19:00as Edwards describes it. Yet they still pay their taxes
- 19:02on time, they return lost wallets, they value justice in
- 19:06the court system, and they generally agree on what basic
- 19:09right and wrong look like in civil society.
- 19:12It is a crucial point. And Edwards does not ignore the
- 19:15reality of human behavior. He introduces the concept of the
- 19:19natural conscience, or the moral sense common to mankind.
- 19:22OK, so there's a secondary system running in the
- 19:24background, yes? This common moral sense is not
- 19:28the same as the divine spiritual sense, but Edwards insists it
- 19:32still aligns with the nature of things.
- 19:34It is not an arbitrary sentiment either.
- 19:36The text says this natural conscience approves of the exact
- 19:39same things which a spiritual and divine sense approves, and
- 19:42those things only. But, and this is the critical
- 19:45distinction we have to parse out, not on the same grounds,
- 19:48nor with the same kind of approbation.
- 19:50Let me try a lengthy analogy here to really clarify this
- 19:52mechanism. I want to make sure we are not
- 19:54losing the thread. Go for it.
- 19:57Imagine a piece of incredibly complex, beautiful music.
- 20:01A masterful Symphony playing in a grand concert hall.
- 20:05Now imagine two different people sitting in the front row
- 20:08listening to it. OK, two people.
- 20:10The first person is profoundly moved.
- 20:12As the strings swell and the brass sections hit their
- 20:15crescendos, this person feels the emotional majesty of the
- 20:19music. They feel the tension, the sweet
- 20:22release. Yeah, the sheer breathtaking
- 20:24beauty of it. They taste the music soul that
- 20:27is akin to the spiritual sense Edwards is describing and.
- 20:30The the second person sitting next to them.
- 20:32The second person might not feel that sweeping emotional majesty
- 20:35at all. Maybe they are entirely tone
- 20:37deaf to the emotional frequency of the music.
- 20:39But the second person happens to be a brilliant mathematician,
- 20:42and they are sitting there looking at the sheet music while
- 20:45the orchestra plays. They can clearly recognize the
- 20:48mathematical symmetry on the page.
- 20:49They see how the counterpoint works perfectly.
- 20:52They see the uniform intervals, the structural integrity of the
- 20:55notes, the predictable resolution of the chord
- 20:57progressions. They will readily agree the song
- 21:00is structured correctly, masterfully even.
- 21:03They approve of it, but they completely lack the taste of its
- 21:07divine beauty. That is an exceptionally fitting
- 21:10analogy for how Edwards frames this argument.
- 21:13He says that the inferior moral sense and natural conscience
- 21:16consists in approving the uniformity and natural agreement
- 21:19there is between one thing and another.
- 21:21Uniformity and natural agreement.
- 21:23They are seeing the math on the sheet music.
- 21:25Precisely, they have a disposition of mind to consent
- 21:28to or like the agreement of the nature of things, or the
- 21:31agreement of the nature and form of one thing with another.
- 21:34They recognize when a human action structurally fits the
- 21:37reality of a situation. They see the symmetry.
- 21:40So when someone operating solely with a natural conscience sees a
- 21:43person working hard in a field all day in the hot sun and then
- 21:46receiving a fair wage at the end of the day, their mind registers
- 21:50the uniformity of that transaction.
- 21:52Effort matches reward, it clicks, it is symmetrical, it
- 21:55makes structural sense. And conversely, when they see
- 21:58someone steal the wages from that hard worker, they register
- 22:01a violent clash, a lack of agreement.
- 22:04It is structurally offensive to their mind's innate desire for
- 22:08uniformity. Edwards argues that such a
- 22:10temper of mind, one that prefers structural agreement over
- 22:14structural chaos, is still more agreeable to the nature of
- 22:18things than an opposite temper. So even the natural conscience,
- 22:22which relies entirely on recognizing structural symmetry
- 22:25rather than tasting divine beauty, is still firmly rooted
- 22:30in objective reality. It is not an arbitrary
- 22:33preference. Correct.
- 22:34It is established an agreement with the nature of things.
- 22:37He argues that no sense of mind that could be supposed of a
- 22:39contrary nature and tendency could be so established.
- 22:42OK, but this leads us to the final and perhaps most visible,
- 22:45most glaring challenge to this entire framework Edwards has.
- 22:48Built. I have a feeling I know what it
- 22:49is. If mankind shares this common
- 22:52natural conscience, and if we are all structurally wired to
- 22:55prefer uniformity and natural agreement, why is there so much
- 22:58brutal arguing over what is right and wrong?
- 23:01It is a valid question. Look at human history.
- 23:04Look at the Evening News. We have completely different
- 23:07moral codes, wildly different laws across borders, different
- 23:11ideas of what deserves A bronze statue in a public square and
- 23:15what deserves a life sentence in a prison cell.
- 23:18It looks messy from the outside. How can Edwards claim a
- 23:20universal moral foundation when the surface of human human
- 23:23interaction looks like total, unmitigated chaos?
- 23:26He tackles his contradiction directly through a fascinating
- 23:29linguistic argument. He looks closely at how we
- 23:31actually use words in everyday life.
- 23:34The text says the use of language is to express our
- 23:36sentiments or ideas to each other.
- 23:38Specifically, he focuses on terms by which things of a moral
- 23:42nature are signified, words like right, wrong, good and evil.
- 23:46These words express moral sentiments which are common to
- 23:49mankind. He argues that the moral sense
- 23:51in natural conscience chiefly governs the use of language.
- 23:54By such words in common speech, we mean that which deserves
- 23:57praise or blame. We have a shared, underlying
- 24:01sense of desert. But Edwards poses the exact
- 24:03question you just asked. If sentiment is the rule of
- 24:07language, and sentiment is clearly different in different
- 24:09persons and nations. One group vehemently praises
- 24:13what another group violently blames.
- 24:15How can virtue be anything other than arbitrary?
- 24:18How is it not just determined by the shifting localized opinions
- 24:21of men? He divides the answer into two
- 24:23distinct parts. First, he asks whether men's
- 24:26sentiments of moral good and evil are casual and accidental.
- 24:30And his answer? His answer is that the general
- 24:32disposition, the base sense of mind that recognizes a desert of
- 24:36esteem or resentment, may be the same in all people.
- 24:40The core concept of merit, uniformity and agreement remains
- 24:43universal across the board. It is the application of that
- 24:46concept that gets incredibly messy.
- 24:48I see the text points out that the particular objects and
- 24:51occasions with regard to which this sense is exercised may be
- 24:54very various. Why?
- 24:55Because of partiality or error that may attend the view or
- 24:58attention to the mind. Partial attention.
- 25:01We do not look at the whole picture.
- 25:02We look through a keyhole and judge the entire room.
- 25:05We have a variety of apprehensions about things.
- 25:07We view them in various manners due to this partial attention.
- 25:11Plus Edwards add to that example.
- 25:13Custom, education and association contribute to these
- 25:17profound differences in innumerable ways.
- 25:20To pull our sheet music analogy back into the light, everyone in
- 25:23the concert hall has the latent capacity to recognize
- 25:26mathematical symmetry. But if one person's vision is
- 25:30physically blurred, or if they have been trained rigorously
- 25:33since birth by their teachers to read the bass Clef upside down,
- 25:36they're going to argue fiercely with you about whether the notes
- 25:40on the page match. The underlying capacity for math
- 25:42is the same, but the custom and education are causing a massive
- 25:46error in application. That is precisely what Edwards
- 25:49is arguing. The differences between nations
- 25:52concerning moral good and evil are not inconsistent with a
- 25:55general moral sense common to all.
- 25:57The machinery in the mind is the same.
- 25:59The data being fed into it, or the cultural lens it looks
- 26:02through is highly distorted. And then Edwards moves to the
- 26:05second part of his answer, which deals directly with the
- 26:07mechanics of how we use words. He says the use of words like
- 26:11good and evil is not altogether unfixed and arbitrary.
- 26:15Because language, by its very nature, requires consistency to
- 26:19function as a medium of manifesting ideas, mankind is
- 26:24obliged to aim at a consistent use of terms.
- 26:27You have to be consistent with yourself and with others,
- 26:29otherwise language completely fails to transfer meaning.
- 26:33The text says men cannot call anything right or wrong
- 26:35consistently any other way than by calling things so which truly
- 26:39deserve praise or blame. Meaning things where there is
- 26:42the most uniformity in connecting praise to them.
- 26:45And here, Edwards provides 2 incredible, highly evocative
- 26:48examples that vividly illiterate what happens when people try to
- 26:51use more language inconsistently.
- 26:53These examples are so sharp. Let's share them and break them
- 26:55down. 1st the thieves and traitors.
- 26:58The text describes a gang of thieves who get intensely angry
- 27:02at informers, the people who turn them over to the justice
- 27:04system. The thieves call the informers
- 27:07behavior by the most odious names possible.
- 27:10They call them evil, wrong betrayers.
- 27:13Scum. But Edwards points out the
- 27:15glaring psychological inconsistency here.
- 27:18If the thieves put themselves in the place of those who've been
- 27:21injured, the innocent people they just robbed, they would
- 27:24absolutely approve of the same informer.
- 27:27If a rival gang stole this thieves hidden stash, the thief
- 27:30would desperately want an informer to help get his money
- 27:33back. They are completely capable of
- 27:35being convinced that they're applying these odious terms in
- 27:38an abusive, hypocritical manner. They are using the word wrong,
- 27:42not based on a universal standard of structural symmetry,
- 27:45but based purely on their own partial, highly selfish
- 27:48attention to the situation. They change the definition of
- 27:51the word to protect their own interests.
- 27:53The second example operates on a much grander historical scale.
- 27:57Edwards describes an ambitious nation that prosecutes a design
- 28:00of universal empire. They subdue other sovereign
- 28:03nations with fire and sword. They are slaughtering innocent
- 28:06populations just to conquer the globe and expand their borders.
- 28:10And yet what language do they use back home to describe their
- 28:13own soldiers, the affixed terms that signify the highest degrees
- 28:17of virtue to the conduct of those who show the most engaged,
- 28:20resolute spirit in this bloody work?
- 28:23They call their killers virtuous and heroes.
- 28:26They build monuments to them. But again, the inconsistency is
- 28:30staggering. If another, more powerful nation
- 28:33showed up on their own shores with fire and sword,
- 28:36slaughtering their citizens to conquer them, would they call
- 28:39those invading soldiers virtuous?
- 28:41Of course not. They would call them monsters.
- 28:43They would call them evil. Edwards concludes that they use
- 28:46these terms inconsistently, they actively abuse language, and
- 28:50they are capable of having their mouths stopped by being
- 28:53confronted with this blatant inconsistency.
- 28:55Because there is no other way to use terms of good.
- 28:58Or I'll desert, in which mankind in general can agree.
- 29:01If we do not tie our language to a universal standard of
- 29:04uniformity, the words lose all coherent meaning.
- 29:07Good just becomes a synonym for what benefits me right now.
- 29:11Which brings to his final forceful conclusion on this
- 29:14point regarding language. Mankind in general seems to
- 29:18suppose some general standard or foundation in nature for a
- 29:22universal consistence in the use of terms expressing moral good
- 29:26and evil. We all assume the standard is
- 29:28there even when we are arguing. Yes, it is evidently supposed in
- 29:32all their disputes about right and wrong, if there wasn't a
- 29:35shared assumption of a universal standard, we wouldn't even
- 29:38bother arguing. We argue because we both believe
- 29:40there is an objective truth to the matter that the other person
- 29:43is failing to see. If it was just arbitrary taste,
- 29:46we wouldn't argue. If I say I like chocolate ice
- 29:49cream and you say you like vanilla, we don't have a fierce
- 29:53blood boiling debate in the street about who is objectively
- 29:55right. We just accept the difference in
- 29:57taste, but when one person says a specific war is justified and
- 30:01another says it is cold blooded murder, they are arguing with
- 30:04such intensity because they both appeal to a standard they
- 30:07believe is fixed in reality. The very act of debating
- 30:10morality with another human being proves that we
- 30:13instinctively know morality is not arbitrary.
- 30:16We expect the other person to be able to see the same structural
- 30:18uniformity we see. This has been a massive, intense
- 30:23philosophical climb. Let's recap the progression of
- 30:26this analysis so we can see the whole picture.
- 30:28Is a great idea. We started with the idea of
- 30:30virtue as an immediate taste of beauty, an agreeable sensation
- 30:34in the mind that bypasses utility and calculation.
- 30:37We saw how that sentiment is not a random setting, but must align
- 30:40with the necessary survival of existence or being in general,
- 30:44which reflects the necessary, perfectly consistent nature of
- 30:47God Himself. We realized how opposing that
- 30:50universal benevolence destroys our own internal consistency,
- 30:54pitting our innate, undeniable desire for happiness against a
- 30:57terrifying tendency toward universal misery.
- 31:00We drill holes in our own boat. We discussed how the natural
- 31:03conscience operates as a functional backup system,
- 31:06recognizing the structural math and symmetry of morality, even
- 31:10if it misses the divine melody of true virtue.
- 31:12And finally, we looked at how our very language and the way we
- 31:15furiously argue with each other demands a universal standard of
- 31:19right and wrong, even when our partial attention or selfish
- 31:23biases cause us to brutally abuse those words to suit our
- 31:27own ends. It is a remarkable progression
- 31:29of thought. There is immense practical value
- 31:32in understanding standing this framework.
- 31:33When you look at the world today, when you encounter loud,
- 31:36confusing, incredibly heated moral debates online or in your
- 31:40local community, it is very easy to feel entirely overwhelmed.
- 31:44It really is. It is easy to throw your hands
- 31:46up and think morality is just a chaotic free for all where
- 31:48whoever shots the loudest wins. But armed with Edwards logic,
- 31:52you can step back and recognize that people are usually not
- 31:55operating without a moral compass.
- 31:57The natural conscience is in there.
- 31:58The innate desire for uniformity is in there.
- 32:01Rather, they are often operating with a massive degree of partial
- 32:04attention to the facts. They are heavily influenced by
- 32:06local custom, by their specific education, by their own internal
- 32:10biases, which severely distorts their application of the
- 32:13universal standard. They are reading the sheet music
- 32:16upside down. So I want to leave you with a
- 32:18final thought to Mull over as you go about your week.
- 32:21The next time you find yourself locked in a fierce, seemingly
- 32:24unresolvable disagreement over what is right or wrong, stop and
- 32:28ask yourself this question. Are you and your opponent
- 32:31actually using completely different fundamental moral
- 32:34standards? Or is one of you simply acting
- 32:37like the thief who hates the informer, changing the rules of
- 32:41the game when it suits your own self-interest?
- 32:44That is a hard question to answer honestly.
- 32:45And perhaps much more uncomfortably, where might your
- 32:48own partial attention be blinding you to the objective
- 32:51uniformity of the situation? Where are you demanding
- 32:54consistency from others while giving yourself a pass?
- 32:56A lot to think about. Sometimes looking for the jagged
- 32:59white line of a broken bone on an X-ray is the wrong approach
- 33:03entirely. Sometimes you have to ask
- 33:05yourself if your mind is truly framed to taste the sweetness of
- 33:08reality as it actually is, or if you were just arguing over the
- 33:11utility of a shovel. Thanks for listening.