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Will Knicks Make NBA Finals with Mike Brown, Steelers Exploiting TJ Watt · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 1: a hater. We're going to talk in a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about the Pittsburgh Steelers and why they look familiar. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean that in no good way. But first,
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  Speaker 1: I send a shout out to a Kevontae Turpin of
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, he run back kicks for them. It
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  Speaker 1: is amazing, by the way, Ryan, how famous you can
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  Speaker 1: get by playing for the Dallas Cowboys because it's not
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  Speaker 1: like Turpin isn't good at running back kicks, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know him for running back kicks if he does
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  Speaker 1: not run back kicks for the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: He's not Devin Hester.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and the Cowboys weren't even good, right? But once
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  Speaker 1: you're there and you're in one of those places, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like playing basketball for Duke in college too.
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  Speaker 1: I know who more Duke bums are. than any other
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  Speaker 1: school there's ever been because they put those herbs on
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  Speaker 1: television over and over and over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Kamonte Turpin got pulled over with some weed
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  Speaker 1: and a gun that apparently he didn't have all the
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  Speaker 1: proper paperwork for. I don't really care about that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just telling you because I've told you guys many, many times,
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  Speaker 1: this is that time of year where we sit around
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  Speaker 1: waiting on somebody get locked up. I was in California
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend doing a bunch of things. And I
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  Speaker 1: saw people talk about some turpin guy and everything around him.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't figure it out. And I'm like, damn, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on? Then I'm like, oh, that's right. We scraping
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  Speaker 1: the bowl for content, baby. That's what we got. Like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: too bad we don't care more about tennis. I hear
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  Speaker 1: they have a very important tournament that's going on. But
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  Speaker 1: lucky for us on this program, the New York Knicks
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  Speaker 1: went ahead and finally hired a head coach And they
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  Speaker 1: hired Mike Brown. And I think we have talked some
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  Speaker 1: about Mike Brown on this show before. But this hire
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  Speaker 1: is interesting because this is a very Dickensian best of times,
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  Speaker 1: worst of times job that you could pick up. It
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  Speaker 1: is obviously under the realm of the best of times because, A,
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks are good.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Good enough that they made it to the conference finals
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  Speaker 1: last year. You could make the argument that they made
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  Speaker 1: the conference finals last year simply because Jason Tatum got injured.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I would go that far, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it is a fair point. However, Jason Tatum
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  Speaker 1: is still going to be injured. So the circumstances that
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  Speaker 1: created that, boom. They're still there. They lost to the
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  Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. Tyrese Halliburton, like Jason Tatum, suffered a torn Achilles. Okay, cool.
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  Speaker 1: You can make an argument that on its face, the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks should be the favorites to win the East. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I have been a basketball fan for probably about 40 years.
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  Speaker 1: I have been living in New York for eight years.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you this next part with utmost certainty, okay?
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  Speaker 1: If you can make an argument that the Knicks are
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  Speaker 1: the best team in the East? People in New York
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  Speaker 1: believe the Knicks are the best team in the world.
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  Speaker 1: All they ever need is an argument, a point, something
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  Speaker 1: one might be able to say in these times. And
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  Speaker 1: I just gave it to you right there, the plausible argument,
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  Speaker 1: that they should be the best team in the East.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, as I think more about it,
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  Speaker 1: it is not simply a plausible argument. What else you got?
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  Speaker 1: Who else is it supposed to be? Like I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: here now looking at all the teams in the East. Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have a long year living in New
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  Speaker 1: York as people who did not grow up as Knicks fans.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Because, I mean, you can talk yourself into,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Celtics having a down year with the Tatum injury.
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  Speaker 2: Pacers having a down year with the Halliburton injury. Who
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  Speaker 2: knows what's going on with Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right. Another Achilles team, although he don't even play
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  Speaker 1: on the roster no more.
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  Speaker 2: He's not even on the roster. Do you believe in Orlando?
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe in Detroit? And if you get in
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  Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. Well, anything can happen. Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 1: We both sound like Knicks fans right now. Like, we
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  Speaker 1: are there. Good for business. They come to me on
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  Speaker 1: the streets. I don't know. What do you think? What
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  Speaker 1: do you think? That's what they were doing when they
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  Speaker 1: was a 30-win team. I don't know. What do you think?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So, all I'm saying is, Mike Brown, you're expected to
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  Speaker 1: win the East. And if you're expected to win the East...
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  Speaker 1: you might be kind of sort of expected to win
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  Speaker 1: the whole goddamn thing. I don't know if he knows that,
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  Speaker 1: but that's kind of what you're walking into. And it
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  Speaker 1: isn't really that often that somebody walks into a situation
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  Speaker 1: where they get a head coaching job and people look
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  Speaker 1: at you and expect that sort of thing. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: reason for that is obvious. Normally people don't get fired
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  Speaker 1: after they go to the conference finals, but that is
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  Speaker 1: in fact what happened to the New York Knicks. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Where this is interesting to me, specific to Mike Brown
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  Speaker 1: and a part that I think I've talked about on
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  Speaker 1: this show before, but I think it's something that we
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  Speaker 1: can't talk about nearly enough. I can't think of any
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  Speaker 1: coach who has been fired more times for no good
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  Speaker 1: reason than Mike Brown. OK, I am going to pull
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  Speaker 1: up Mike Brown's coaching record on this year. Wikipedia. OK,
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  Speaker 1: we're not sponsored by those other people anymore, so I
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  Speaker 1: won't use that. Mike Brown won 50 games his first
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  Speaker 1: year with the Cavs, 50 games and went to the
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  Speaker 1: finals the second year. They went 45 in the conference
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  Speaker 1: semifinals and then back-to-back 60-win seasons, okay? The prevailing sentiment
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  Speaker 1: from there had been that in an effort to try
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  Speaker 1: to get LeBron to stay and a belief that LeBron
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  Speaker 1: did not want to play for Mike Brown, The Cavs
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  Speaker 1: let him go at the end of 2010. Another thing
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  Speaker 1: that is worth noting is that Dan Gilbert has never,
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  Speaker 1: if I have not mistaken, signed a head coach to
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  Speaker 1: a contract extension. But anyway, after a combined 125 wins
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  Speaker 1: in two seasons and a playoff series that you lost
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  Speaker 1: in large part because LeBron James quit in game five,
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  Speaker 1: No more Mike Brown. Okay. Come back during the lockout season.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting the last of what Kobe Bryant has to offer.
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  Speaker 1: They lost in the conference semifinals, not because of coaching,
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  Speaker 1: but because Kobe shot him out of the end of
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  Speaker 1: those games. Five games into the next season, Mike Brown
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  Speaker 1: gets fired. Okay. He goes and coaches the Cavs, a
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  Speaker 1: Cavs team that was bad, 33 and 49. Okay. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, the only actual losing season Mike Brown has
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  Speaker 1: ever had. Remember when I said that thing about LeBron before?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, LeBron was coming back. Mike Brown gets fired. Sacramento
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  Speaker 1: has their two best seasons with Mike Brown that they
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  Speaker 1: had had in God knows how long. Yes, God does
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  Speaker 1: know this. I personally do not. Halfway through year three,
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  Speaker 1: not even halfway through year three, 13 and 18, he's
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  Speaker 1: got to go have a talk with De'Aaron Fox. We
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  Speaker 1: all see it on camera. Then he gets fired. OK,
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  Speaker 1: all I'm saying is I don't think that you can
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  Speaker 1: make an argument at any point that Mike Brown has
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  Speaker 1: been fired for performance. He's been fired because he didn't
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  Speaker 1: get along with the best player. He's been fired because
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  Speaker 1: of the Hail Mary to try to keep a best player.
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  Speaker 1: He's been fired because Jerry Buss was dying and they
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  Speaker 1: were panicking and trying to win a championship before it
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  Speaker 1: was all over. He has never been fired for poor performance.
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  Speaker 1: He has been a part of four championships as an assistant.
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  Speaker 1: He has worked under Greg Popovich. He has worked under
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  Speaker 1: Steve Kerr. All of these things to me sound incredibly positive.
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  Speaker 1: Now you are coming to coach the first Knicks team
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  Speaker 1: that I can remember having expectations.
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  Speaker 2: What could possibly go wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, Ryan. Not just expectation, okay?
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  Speaker 1: I am assuming that he will still have Rick Brunson
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  Speaker 1: as assistant coach.
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  Speaker 2: As of now, that is what's being reported.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Whatever they have amongst themselves as a roster, he's
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  Speaker 1: still got to deal with. Whatever it is that you
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  Speaker 1: have to figure out about Carl Anthony Towns, because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this. Year one for Towns went very well
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  Speaker 1: on the court. Year two is when the scrutiny and
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  Speaker 1: everything else starts, right? For everybody that's involved in this team.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, the locals were mad enough to fire
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  Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau, right? They were generally on board with that. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a point that I have made, right? You know, we
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  Speaker 1: haven't been doing this this long. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you ever heard me talk about this, but I have to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bring these up for you, for everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: You never know who's watching you play for the first time, right?
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  Speaker 1: Joe DiMaggio out here. I can make an argument for
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  Speaker 1: firing anybody.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: 30 teams in the NBA, 25 of them. I guarantee
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  Speaker 1: you I could make an argument for firing them if
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  Speaker 1: I want to fire them. The reason you get fired
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  Speaker 1: is somebody wants to fire you. OK, but this wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like they fired Thibodeau and then everybody that watched the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks is like, oh, this is insane. No, they thought
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  Speaker 1: that team should have been better. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I thought that team should have been better, but they
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  Speaker 1: thought that team should have been better. Okay. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be the same way for Carl. Honestly, at some point,
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  Speaker 1: the clock's going to run out on Jalen Brunson. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what kind of discount they getting on him, right?
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  Speaker 1: Mikael Bridges, who clearly doesn't want anybody to ever touch
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  Speaker 1: him when he puts up a shot. All that's going
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  Speaker 1: to start coming down on him. Josh Hart being a
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  Speaker 1: power forward, but not really a power forward because look
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  Speaker 1: at him. The clock's going to start running on that.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be a team that is under
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  Speaker 1: an unreal amount of pressure, right? That's what Mike Brown
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  Speaker 1: is walking into. I was talking to somebody and went
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  Speaker 1: and I went to over the weekend and we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about Carolina basketball, right? And I was talking specifically
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  Speaker 1: about the years that they won championships in 05 and 09.
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  Speaker 1: You could even say this about 2017. I was on
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  Speaker 1: campus in 05. I was working in media in 09.
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  Speaker 1: And it was amazing how the lead up to those
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  Speaker 1: teams were fairly joyless. The championships and the wins, you
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  Speaker 1: saw the excitement, but the lead ups were joyless. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason was very simple. They were supposed to win.
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  Speaker 1: It was as clearly championship robust as I have ever
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  Speaker 1: seen for any set of teams. And that's a weird feeling,
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  Speaker 1: especially with college players, right? Like it's win or bust.
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  Speaker 1: You have players that had gone through a lot on
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  Speaker 1: the way there, but it was really just like either
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  Speaker 1: you win or you don't. That was it. There was
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  Speaker 1: no other alternative. That's not fun, right? But it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: terribly unreasonable. With the Knicks, I don't even think that
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  Speaker 1: that's a totally reasonable way to look at the season,
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  Speaker 1: but this is what it's going to be. And that
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  Speaker 1: is what Mike Brown is walking into. Now, I have
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  Speaker 1: seen the argument where people are like, well, Mike has
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  Speaker 1: never coached under the kind of pressure that comes from
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  Speaker 1: coaching in New York. I disagree with that. He's coached
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  Speaker 1: LeBron James, again, getting fired after winning 60 games two
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  Speaker 1: years in a row. That sounds like pressure to me, right?
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  Speaker 1: He's coached LeBron James and he has coached the Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's dealt.
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  Speaker 2: With the Lakers with Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard. Pau Gasol,
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  Speaker 2: Steve Nash.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't last very long, but still.
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  Speaker 1: He did that for a couple of weeks. He only
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  Speaker 1: did that for a couple of weeks. But it was
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  Speaker 1: still Kobe and Pau Gasol and succeeding Phil Jackson. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: It was still those things. All of that has been there.
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  Speaker 1: I think by and large that he will be able
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  Speaker 1: to manage it, but I also acknowledge the possibility that
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  Speaker 1: there's a level to where this can go for that
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  Speaker 1: team in terms of what we see. that we haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen before, right? All of that is possible. Yo, this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be such a wild NBA season because
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  Speaker 1: everything I'm saying there about the Knicks, in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else really right now off the
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  Speaker 1: top of my head, except for maybe the Cavs, has
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  Speaker 1: a better argument for why they should win the East.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have anybody else that's there. Like, Ryan, you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the Magic. And I guess they got Desmond Bain.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. No. Can't get there.
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  Speaker 3: Not there.
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  Speaker 2: I was still very young.
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  Speaker 1: I hate their new jerseys. Can we talk about that
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  Speaker 1: for a second? Have you seen their new jerseys?
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  Speaker 2: Which ones do you hate?
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  Speaker 1: I hate the idea of all of them. And the
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  Speaker 1: reason I hate it is they're so uncreative. Is everybody
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  Speaker 1: out of ideas? Every idea has to be an old idea. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so all they did was take old ideas and
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  Speaker 1: try to hit them with a little razzle dazzle. Just
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  Speaker 1: flip it up. Like, you know, it felt like our
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  Speaker 1: buns have no seeds. Like every jersey looks like the
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  Speaker 1: Big Mick. Every jersey that every jersey they broke out. Oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: I love it. They look they all look like something else.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't look like something else, just be something else.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But even then, I'm like, yo, we ain't got no
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  Speaker 1: new ideas. But anyway, no, I'm with you. They are
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  Speaker 1: very young. And I don't. I don't feel like they
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  Speaker 1: have enough size.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you don't go from being the worst
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  Speaker 2: offense in the NBA to competing for an NBA championship.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's a one-season progression.
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  Speaker 1: Don't see it. Don't see it. I do not see it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's enough that everybody thinks they got a chance.
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  Speaker 1: We also, by the way, have the Philadelphia situation where
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  Speaker 1: a lot of how bad they were last year had
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  Speaker 1: to do with injuries. There's no excuse for them being
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  Speaker 1: that bad. Daryl Morey, All y'all all y'all go need
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  Speaker 1: to get to it, I guess is the point. But
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  Speaker 1: with nobody that has truly emerged. It's your time, New
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  Speaker 1: York Knicks. It is your time, Mike Brown. And I
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  Speaker 1: think he has a great temperament for handling all of this.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to say again, I think he's a
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  Speaker 1: good coach. I don't think that you can look and
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  Speaker 1: make any arguments about Mike Brown as being bad coach.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you could say he is not great coach, but
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  Speaker 1: I think he is a good coach. And something that
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  Speaker 1: I think is very ironic is a big part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason that Thibodeau is losing, lost that gig was offense.
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  Speaker 1: The criticism that we had for a very long time
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  Speaker 1: of Mike Brown was that he was a defensive guy
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  Speaker 1: who couldn't really put it together for you on offense.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, that five games that got him fired with
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  Speaker 1: the Lakers, the big change they made that year is
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  Speaker 1: he went and hired Eddie Jordan and brought in a
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  Speaker 1: Princeton offense because he had to get somebody to run
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  Speaker 1: the offense for Mike Brown. Then Mike went and spent
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  Speaker 1: all that time working with the Warriors, and he figured
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  Speaker 1: some stuff out at points. Sacramento had some all-time great offense.
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  Speaker 1: They got as good a coach as you could expect
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  Speaker 1: in a situation truly unlike anything that I can remember.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's going to be fun living in New York.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be a lot more fun if they win a
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  Speaker 1: lot of games. It'll be a lot more crazy if
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  Speaker 1: they don't. All right, Ryan, as we were scraping the
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  Speaker 1: bowl for content to try to prepare this show for
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  Speaker 1: these wonderful people, I was about to say this is
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  Speaker 1: our first July show, which it kind of actually is.
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  Speaker 1: But this is our first real July show.
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  Speaker 2: Some days we show up, some days we have to work. Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, this is our first Monday, July show where it's
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  Speaker 1: just me and you that's making it happen. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: not mistaken, was Monday a week ago? Was that us?
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  Speaker 1: We were still working with the finals, right? Like, we
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  Speaker 1: were coming off of that?
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  Speaker 2: That was two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: But we had stuff, right?
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  Speaker 2: But the week before was... NBA free agency and all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And Malik Beasley.
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  Speaker 2: And Malik Beasley.
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  Speaker 1: Which, by the way, you guys can't get enough of
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: that story. Ryan, I learned and did not know that
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: apparently Cairo Cuts, the barbershop in Milwaukee, is like, shall
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: we say, super cuts?
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  Speaker 2: I did not know that either.
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  Speaker 1: Like great clips?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're learning something new every day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's... No, okay. Okay. Okay. It's like great clips.
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  Speaker 1: but they got a dude named Lonnie and a woman
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  Speaker 1: named Vero that seem to be like maybe the ones
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  Speaker 1: who cut Malik Beasley's hair. They also got a dude
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  Speaker 1: named Omar who perhaps can cut Malik Beasley's hair, but
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  Speaker 1: does not look like It ain't the same. You feel me?
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Got it. You get where I'm coming from? Yes.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: They got the, it's a Benetton ad at Cairo Cuts.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: They got Mahdi, M-A-H-D-I. They got Nando. They got Juanita.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And they got Rick and Mike. They got Abril. They
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: got Tony. Oh, okay. Anyway, neither here nor there. We
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: are now going to have to be like a lot
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: of other people about whom we often offer a measure
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: of judgment. And what do I mean by that? What
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I mean is very simple. Now we're just going to
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: have to find whatever football topic we can get to
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: get us through the day. I just don't want to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: be that person, right? It may be better for business
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to be that person, but I'm not that person.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: It was either this or the Epstein list, so we
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: might as well talk about the Steelers.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: The Epstein list that doesn't exist.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Correct. Or the lack of Epstein list.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Is Aaron Rodgers on McAfee this week?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: We'll find out.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: That's your number one source for such activity. But anyway.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: TJ Watt is holding out from the Pittsburgh Steelers, which
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: is not what I think anybody expected to be the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: words coming out of my mouth on this Monday. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: we go get whatever we can out of this bowl.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I actually think I have something interesting to discuss when
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it comes to this. But TJ Watt is holding out.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And I actually find this to be funny because I'm
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: not funny necessarily. But I think that for a lot
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of us, we look at this as a like, Very
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: simple thing. TJ Watt, defensive player of the year type candidate,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: perhaps a future Hall of Famer, all of those things.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It's time to give him his money. You give him
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: his money, right? Except he's, what, 30? There have been injuries.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And this is the time where football discussions typically get
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to be a little awkward, right? Guys want money for
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: what they did before. Teams are like, brother, that's not
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: how it works. And then we go from there.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Also, the deal he wants was given by the Browns.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, he wants the Miles Garrett deal.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And that number is $ 40 million a year.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so just so we're clear, he wants the deal
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that was given to somebody better than him.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now, hey, hey, hey. Miles Garrett is better than
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: just about all of them.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Right? So I don't want to say that like it
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is an insult.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Of T.J.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Watt.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: However, I don't think T.J. Watt agrees with what I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: just said.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And that's why we're in the situation we are now. Right.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: And so as I understand it from reading it, the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: difficulties come down to typical football stuff. The length of
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the deal, the amount of guaranteed money, all of this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And T.J. Watt knows that, like, I think I said
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: this about Giannis, where I was like, if I'm keeping
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it real and if I'm the Bucs, I'm looking at
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Giannis like, man, you gonna come and you gonna play.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Come on now, you a hard worker. You know what
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? They ain't really got no reason to be
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: out here worried about you.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: No one's going to be worried about J.J. Watt's little
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: brother not showing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Up to practice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is he going to.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Do, work out somewhere else?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Right, that's probably how the Steelers are looking at it, right?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Like when Yann is on that one, they're like, brother,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you ain't trying to go back to Athens selling hats.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You're going to bring your ass in here and you're going.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: To be– What are you going to push the sled
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: in your own backyard?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: You are going to continue exercising that work ethic that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: got you to where you are today. That is what
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers are saying in their minds. Right. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the worst is I bet on one level, TJ Watt
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: knows that's how they feel. And he resists the fact
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that that's how they feel. And on the other hand,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a little part of him knows that they are right.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like him and his brother
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: been talking that super white man shit for so long, right? Like, no,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to pick myself up on my bootstraps and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: get it done. It's all about the hard work, right?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And now he mad at himself. I've been that person.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: When you're the person that's like, I do this because
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: this is what's right. I'm going to show up and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do my job because I do my
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: job for me, right? I don't worry about them. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: do that. Man, they know when you act like that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: They know it and they don't respect it. They exploit it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And so now you get caught within yourself. If I do,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I lower myself to the standard and raise less to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: these lazy people. All right. So I know he's going
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to be at the crib if you don't go to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: training camp. Just mad. Just doing just just doing pushups
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and chopping wood. Just being mad.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: He's in Rocky Ford running up the hill in the snow.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Right. Like this. No, no idea what to do. His wife.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: So sick of him. His wife being like. OK, ready, set, put. Right.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: He out here doing swim moves in front of her.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And she's like, you better not hit me in the face.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I won't hit you in the face again. I promise.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Like these these are all the things that they are
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: going through. It has to be miserable for all parties involved.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I have this question about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Actually, before
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we get to that question, right, I want to bring
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: up a conversation that I had at this wedding I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: went to over the weekend, right? I was talking to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: my buddy, John Gervais, and I always, you know me,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I like to give credit when somebody else comes up
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: with something. And so I forget exactly. Oh, we were
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: talking about in the NBA. And I think there's something
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that cats don't get enough credit for in the NBA, okay?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: If a dude signs a guaranteed contract for however much money,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: It doesn't play well after that contract or mails it
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: in after that contract. We attack that person for doing that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Were you guys talking about Bradley Beal?
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It was not him, I don't think. I think we
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: were talking more hypothetically. But fair question you asked.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: This is what Donald does when we were there. Sheriff
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, man. People got audacity, man. And the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: reason we say they got audacity is we watch people
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: mail in jobs all the time. In fact, I have
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: worked jobs with people who mailed it in and people
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: were mad at me for being mad at him for
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: mailing it in.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Like like like not only is a certain measure of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: laziness understood, it is expected as part of the human condition. Right.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And respected at some point. Right, right, right.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Like you're maximizing your ROI, your ROI, right? Like it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: coming back. We need to actually start giving people more
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: credit for still bringing it after this guaranteed money. Like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the NBA is full of guys with guaranteed money who
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: play hard all the time. And I don't think we
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: give them nearly as much respect as they deserve for
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: doing that because you, yes, You would never do such
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a thing. You would get that guaranteed check and bail
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it in. The only thing that keeps you grinding, the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: only thing is the landlord. That's it. If you didn't
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: think that one day you could show up and then
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you got to come home and explain to the old
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: lady why it is that y'all got to go get
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: them great value snacks from the grocery store. Right. Ain't
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: no more Whole Foods. No, no, no. That's the only
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: reason you show up to work and put in half
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a goddamn effort. It's the only reason. That's it. Right.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Everybody that shows up to play after getting guaranteed money.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Good for you, because deep down inside, that is not
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: very smart. And I say this as somebody who engages
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: in such not smart behavior. Anyway, back to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: They are beginning to remind me a bit of the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Dream Team. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Not that Dream Team. That Dream Team. That's right. The
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Dream Team that got Andy Reid fired. That dream team.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: For those of you who do not remember this, in
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the year of our Lord, 2012, the Eagles went out
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and made a lot of free agent signings, right? They
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: went and got, this shouldn't be the first one to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: come to my mind, but excuse me, my fault. It
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: was the year 2011, not 2012. Okay.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: The first one that comes to my mind is Vince Young.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And it was a washed up Vince Young. So I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: don't feel like calling him the dream team guy is
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: really the best way to go about putting that. Right.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: But they went and got a. They got Nnamdi Asamoah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I remember that. They got him. They got Jason Babin.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: They got they would decide Ronnie Brown. Wow. Looking at
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the list now, they would decide a bunch of guys
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: that I had forgotten about. But they made all these
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: all these moves and got these old, fairly washed up dudes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And Vince Young famously when they signed him was like, man,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm signing up to play for Dream Team.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And Dream Team went eight and eight. They went 8-8,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and then the year after that, Andy Reid got fired. Now,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I want to be clear. That was also the year
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that Andy Reid got the bright idea to make the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: offensive line coach the defensive coordinator. So I don't think
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: it's fair to blame– I forgot about that. You forgot
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yes. I didn't realize that was like the 10 years
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: before Belichick was doing stuff like that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And that is also the season– They got Howie Roseman
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: essentially demoted, and then they went– is that when they
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: went and got Chip?
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: No.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Chip demoted Howie Roseman.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, Chip demoted Howie.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Chip demoted Howie Roseman, yeah. So Chip– 2013 was Chip's
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: first year. So 2012, in the middle of that year,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I want to say, was Andy Reid who got fired
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: during that year or at the end of that year.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: But they made all these moves. Look, this is not a–
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: This is not a league where getting a bunch of
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: other people's scraps, regardless if it's scraps of sirloin, if
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it's scraps of filet, this isn't a league where getting
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: other people's scraps is what gets the job done. It's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: just right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Right. And that's what they've done. And that's not to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: say that they can't ultimately win because I feel like
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I can go pick up 11 dudes from in front
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of the Home Depot and Mike Tomlin to win nine
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: games with.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Like, I think that that's a fair point that you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: ultimately make. But moves like they've made, including signing old
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: ass Aaron Rodgers and everything else. It's all iffy, and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: it all feels like the.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Sort of thing.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Trading for old Jalen Ramsey, which we didn't really cover
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: last week. That is correct.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I can't remember them all.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Sneaky old Jalen Ramsey turning 31 this year.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: At corner.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: This is normally the time where people start asking you
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: about moving a little bit farther off the ball, right?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is not old, but he's somebody else's. Like,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's there's a lot going on there.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And then you add on to it that T.J. Watt
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: is not there as of yet. But again, good, hard working,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: red blooded American man like him. He'll be ready. Right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But what happens if like it feels like the wheels
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: are coming off on this team? Because, Ryan, you and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I have talked about this in the the point of
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: comparison that you use that I love is the Steelers
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: have had three coaches since when?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: The moon landing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: The literal moon landing. Chuck Knowles' first game was after
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the moon landing. A month and a half after.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a month or two, yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, they've had three coaches since then, okay? How
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: bad would this have to, like, spiral and roll and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: everything else for us to be like, hey, I don't
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: know about this Mike Tomlin thing?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: It's wild because... You mentioned 11 dudes out of Home Depot.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's never had a losing season in, what,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: 17 years at this point? 16, 17 years. They also
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: have not won a playoff game since 2016, I believe.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And GM just got extended. Mike Tomlin would probably be
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the first hire for about 10 teams if there was
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: an opening and about three television networks.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But been a long time.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Kind of like Andy Reid. Yep. It feels very Very,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: very similar. It feels very similar.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like Mike Tomlin doesn't have the glaring weakness.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Because Andy Reid's issues were so obvious with the clock.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yes. I don't think we'll talk about any of that anymore. No.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: No, it was so obvious. Even before we got so
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: sophisticated with that sort of conversations, it was so obvious.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And he looked. His stare was so light. Mike Tomlin
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: always radiates confidence in people. He feels like a football
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: coach in a strange way. But people will– him tying
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: himself to old Aaron Rodgers is going to be definitely–
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I think they're the most interesting team going into the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: season by far.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: And this is also in a– a division I would
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: say is very interesting. I think we'd agree that Baltimore
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: is definitely the best team in that division. Correct. We
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: would agree that Cleveland is definitely the worst team in
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that division. And Cincinnati is going to score a lot
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: of points. Yeah. Right. That's what we know. The thing
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: for me with Tomlin is this and where it gets
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: interesting is that Tomlin. We agree that Tomlin is great
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: culture guy. Strategy guy.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Look, all I'm saying is this. Bill Belichick would cook
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: him year after year after year after year after year.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: He would pull Mike Tomlin's pants down every year. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: think Tomlin won the last time they played against each other,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: but just would flat out cook him every time. It's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: not that's not how he's getting it done, I guess,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: is the point that I'm making. And maybe that'll be
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: part of what they need. The margins being what they are.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think if they make the playoffs,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: we're not having any discussion, win a game or not,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: because they haven't had a quarterback worth discussing. And God
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: knows how long either. And I don't know how much
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: of that is his fault. I don't know exactly what
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the power dynamics are or whatever.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But if you keep and if you keep winning and
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: you're kind of damned, if you do, damned, if you don't,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: you win nine games, you can never get. you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahomes, the Josh Owens, you're never drafting high
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: enough to go get the next big man.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It is very rare that we look at the Pittsburgh
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Steelers as something uncertain. That is what we look at
• 32:08
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you haven't heard.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: All right, Bo, this first story is about work.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: Hi, I'm Isabel Fatal, and I'm a senior editor at
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: The Atlantic.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: I recently wrote about a strange philosophy that shows up
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: in some corners of American culture.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: The less you sleep, the more impressive you are.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Tech CEOs and influencers love to tout their morning routines
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: that begin at 5 a.m.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Or 4 a.m. or even 3 a.m.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: But Americans have been ascribing moral value to a lack
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: of sleep for centuries. In 1861, an Atlantic writer railed
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: against newspaper articles in which all persons are exhorted to
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: early rising and to resolute abridgment of the hours of sleep.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: America was built on Protestant work ethic, and the idea
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: that hard work is an inherent good has never quite
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: left us. The Christian ideals that dominated early American culture
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: helped schedule leisure into the week in the form of
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: the Sunday Sabbath.
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: Eventually, the 40-hour workweek was created. and workers were granted
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: both Saturdays and Sundays as days off.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: But even as leisure became part of America's legal structure,
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: the obsession with hard work only grew. In the 19th
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: and early 20th centuries, pundits predicted that automation would lead
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: to more time for fun and leisure. But another ideology
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: took hold instead, one that the Atlantic contributor Derek Thompson
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: calls workism. College-educated Americans in particular have come to see
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: work as a way to build identity and seek fulfillment.
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: In other words, work is a quasi-religion. In recent years,
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: a majority.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Of Americans have acknowledged that they'd feel better with more rest.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: But the mindset that sleep equals laziness is hard to shake.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Perhaps one day the new brag will be to say,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: I sleep so much. But American society is not quite
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: there yet.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: So what is interesting about that to me? As someone
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: who is a sleeper, I sleep very regularly. In fact,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed in myself today because I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: overslept getting ready to do this show. But I was
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: disappointed because I sleep so well. And I mean, well,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: like efficiently. You know what I'm saying? Like I get
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to sleep when I'm supposed to. I get the right
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: length of time. I couldn't believe I allowed myself to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: oversleep because that meant I did something wrong on the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: front end. You get what I'm saying? I always feel
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: like I earn that sleep. I do what I'm supposed
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to do. I get my work done during the day.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I earn that sleep. I feel like if you sleepy
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's how you know
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you did your job. When I'm at the get the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: least sleep point, it's when I'm doing the least stuff.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I think the most interesting point she brought up was
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the American ideal of work. We all know that sleeping
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: more is better. All the science has pointed to sleeping
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: more is better for physical and mental health but however
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the american american ideal says you need we need you
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: up early to get this work done as soon as
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: possible yeah get your work done before your work starts.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah so no no it's fine so when i hear
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: that i guess this is my thought about it is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that the ideal that i think for the american is
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to work as hard as you can right And if
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you still need to go to sleep, make sure you
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: get the work done. That's the way that I think
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: about it, which I think is typically a result of
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: poor planning. You've not budgeted out your time or whatever
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to do it right. Because if you do that, you stray.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: But I have never looked down on anybody because they slept.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I have looked down upon them because they didn't get
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: their work done. That's all it is about for me.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Did you get your work done? I don't give a
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: damn when you went to sleep if you did your job.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Am I the only person that sees the world that way?
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I like the idea. I'm going to start using I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: earned that sleep.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Earned that sleep. Hell yeah, earned. If I didn't earn it,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: why am I so sleepy? Like, look, that's just me.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: If you sleepy, you need to go to sleep. That's
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: just it. Maybe you don't need to sleep for 10 hours,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: 12 hours, whatever it is. But if you sleepy, it's
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: clearly because you need to go to sleep.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have no problems with my sleep routine because
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I am chasing around a one-year-old.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I was about to say. I am amazed
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: at your ability to be there when I need you.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: need you.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, look, you know, you got to get this work.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: All right. So our next article is also from The Atlantic.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: It's titled, Why Do Billionaires Go So Crazy? You know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, all of our overlords these days,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you know, having this ideal of kind of, you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: losing their psychosis. And the main thought point, the thesis
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: of the article is about it all starts and ends
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: with the private plane. I think you'll appreciate a quote here.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: These experiences sort of change your life. And you think
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: there is no one that I wouldn't bribe, betray, sweep
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: with to be freed from the armpit of man, mass transit.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: So it's funny that it was why billionaires go so
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: crazy because I was talking to a friend of mine
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: who works with a billionaire. And he was talking about
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: something that someone told him around that world, which was
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the billionaires, they're okay. It's the guys in between 100
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: million and a billion that are the jerks. I would
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: like to take note of how crazy it is to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: make a distinction between those people because my life would
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: be exactly the same if I had either of those.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Like if I was anywhere in that continuum, I just
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: don't see how my life would be that much different.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: But it was like, yeah, between 100 mil and a bill.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: That's where that's where they're a little insecure of themselves
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: because they don't really have a title. There's a lot
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: of space between millionaire and billionaire. The title of millionaire
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't really mean anything. And then it goes from there.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: It's people showing up with the smallest private plane and
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: they feel insecure about it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: That is correct. That is correct. So I have not
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: told you this. I don't know if I've talked about
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: this on air, but whatever. I know there are some
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: people who talk about how I tell stories over and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: over again. That's because we're friends. Yeah.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: That's how it works. But you don't have a spouse, right?
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Or whatever.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Like this is how it goes. But when I lived
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: in Miami, I used to live on Collins, right? In
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the millionaire road drag. And I could look out my
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: window across the intercoastal waterway. And there was this house
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and it had this beautiful boat in front of it, right?
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Beautiful boat. And I thought about every day what it
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: was like to be the person that owned that house
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: and to get in the window and look out there.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And what did you see out that window? Not your
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: beautiful boat. But the dude's boat next door in his
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: boat is shitting all over your boat.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: All over.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: There's always somebody that got more.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Like you think you made it. It's always somebody who
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: got more always. And so that gets people into the trouble.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: My argument for why billionaires are crazy people is very simple.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Nobody ever made a billion dollars by being a good person.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Like there's nothing sane or rational about trying to make
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: that much money. Like that being your goal, like the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: idea that you get that much money and don't stop.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of counters. George Lucas. And that's me.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Like maybe that's it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe, right?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: But someone who like sold, like built their art, sold
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: their art.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: They're the closest ones, right? That's the closest that you
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: can get to it. Or the dude that invented Viagra.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's about what you got.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: But otherwise, no, you're probably going to be a little
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: cuckoo for Cocoa Plus because wanting to have a billion
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: dollars is crazy.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And like you said, like getting to $ 100 million and deciding–
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I need 10x more of this.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Job's not finished. Job's not done. Job's not done.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: This is a bit of a turn. This is our
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: last one. It's an article from The New Yorker about
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: are young people having enough sex? Throughout many years, people
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: were always concerned about young people having too much sex
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: in the free love 60s and 70s. But now it seems–
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: This article discusses the Zoomer sex recession and some of
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the articles, you know, some of the reasons for that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: One of the main reasons is almost too much exposure to,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: you know, some of the more lewd things on the Internet.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And the thought being, you know, there's almost too much
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: available and that has– limited the uh actual uh physical
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: act with younger people.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Yo and so that's interesting because like a lot of
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the for younger people and i'm going to use that
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: term somewhat broadly right not entirely teenagers but still there's
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: still a measure of curiosity that like is behind the
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: activity in a lot of ways. And so read this
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: book by Neil Postman, rest in peace, called The Disappearance
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: of Childhood. And the point is that the point that
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: he makes in that book is a that the notion
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: of childhood is actually very new and that the idea
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: of childhood children were just little adults for a very
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: long time. Think about we used to send them to
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: factories and coal mines. Right. So kids like kids were
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: actually not kids. They were just little bitty adults and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: treated like adults for a very long time. And he
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: says that the idea and the advent of the concept
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: of childhood was a result of widespread literacy. And that
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: once you had widespread literacy, you were able to kind
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: of keep some societal secrets and that the progression of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: becoming an adult and what is it is not reasonable
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: for adults was about what you could what you were
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: able to comprehend and understand through literacy.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: So are you talking about kids figuring out Santa Claus
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist and things like that?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: That is a very simple example, but yes. So that
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: is a secret that you keep. Spoilers.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Sorry to ruin it for everybody.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Right. But then eventually you let the kids in on it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And so everything becomes, you become aware of things once
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you are capable of reading about those things and then
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: understanding those things. And his argument was that we lost
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the ability to keep secrets with television. Because television then
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: broadcasts all of these adult activities and ideas. And that's
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: how you get to your mom telling you to close
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: your eyes at certain parts and everything else, right? And
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: so if you take that idea that there are no
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: secrets in the age of television, which wasn't entirely true,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: but wasn't entirely false. But if you go with that idea,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: there are no secrets in the era of television because
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: television tells everything, then what in the world does the
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: internet do, right? So if you are then bombarded with
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: sexual imagery, for example, at this very young age, not
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: only is it no longer a secret, when you're a
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: little bit too young to get on board with it,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it's a little gross and scary perhaps, right? And perhaps
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that then leads to this place where you get now
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to where you have these young people who are not
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: having sex. Now, of course, then you add to that
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the computer and the fact that you have this limited
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: amount of interaction.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in order to have sex, you have to leave
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: your house and meet up with someone in real life.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: The computer still ain't fixed that. They still have not
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: figured that one out. So, yeah, you add all of
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that together. And I think that's where you get to
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: this place that we end up with. Because there's a
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, there's reason for the society
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: to feel like in one in the sense that, wow,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: there's a lot less teen pregnancy, for example. But not
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: for the not for the goodest reason. You feel me? Like, yeah,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it's not because they're being more responsible because they.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Are doing a better job of educating them.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just skirt. That's all.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Oldie but a goodie voicemail topic. Craziest thing you ever
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: saw someone do when they owed someone some money. Great
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: submissions as always. Here's our first one. Hey, Bomani.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: This is Mike. I've been a journalist for years. And
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: you asked... what's the craziest thing you ever saw to
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: see somebody get their money back? This isn't necessarily related
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: to cash, but when I first started, I was working
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: in a small town where I grew up. So I
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: knew everybody in the small town and the pastor of
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: the biggest church was arrested for grand larceny, but the
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: police wouldn't give me any information. But of course I
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: started digging and, And I saw that the only police
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: report in that period of time came from a woman
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: who I know all my life. She lived right down
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: the street from me. We used to call her Mother.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: So I go and ask Mother if that pastor being charged,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: her pastor, was related to her house being robbed. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: she said, yeah. So it turned out Mother's son was.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: was on an illicit substance. It was the 90s, so
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: you can guess which one. But she came home one
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: day and her house.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Had been robbed.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Everything had been stolen. She later found out that her
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: pastor owed a dealer of that illicit substance some money.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: He came and just took his money back, stole everything. Well,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: mother goes to church a few weeks later. And she
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: sees her pastor announce that he is engaged. The pastor
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: was old, but he had gotten engaged to one of
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: the prettiest women in this little tiny town. So mother
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: went to the pastor and told him, Pastor. I don't
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: mean to harm, but I saw your wife's wedding ring
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: and that's my wedding ring that was stolen from my house.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: And if you just give it back, you know, I
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: won't have to report it to the police. And the
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: pastor said, according to mother, looked at her and thought
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: about that pretty young woman that he was engaged to,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: that he was going to have to ask for that
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: ring back. And he told mother, ma'am, you just going
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: to have to do what you got to do. And
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: that's how the pastor got arrested. Thanks for listening to
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: my story. Love what you do. Keep doing what you
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: do for money.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: And I'll talk to you later.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: You just going to have to do what you got. Boy,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that love.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: Woo!
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Them young thangs, boy, they be making them dudes.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Damn. Anytime you have pastor and grand of arsony in
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: the same sentence.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: And crack, even if it wasn't said explicitly. And crack.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: All right, here's our next one.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: What's up, Beaumonti? Big fan. You asked a question about
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: a time when somebody had to show up and get
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: their money. See, my daddy was a cattleman. No, that's right.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: He didn't like being called a cowboy. He'd always say
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: he was a cattle man. And one time this farmer
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: owed him, you know, $ 10, 000, $ 15, 000, which wasn't really uncommon
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: in that business. You know, deals would get made, payments
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: would be deferred and whatnot. Well, you know, months went by.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: It was time to collect. My dad said, hey, we're
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: going to ride down the road and we're going to
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: get our money. I said, what do you mean? He said,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: we're going to take our truck, we're going to take
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: our trailer, and we're going to pull in there, and
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: we're going to load up enough cows out of this
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: guy's barn until I feel like we've got our money's worth.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: I said, all right. We pull up to the farm.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: I'm expecting, you know, maybe a little bit of hostility,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: maybe some words, maybe some punches, maybe even more than
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: that if you catch my drift. But nope, we pulled up.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: The guy went back, said hello, nice to see you.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: My dad told him what he was going to do,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: and that's exactly what he did. We went, we got
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: us a trailer full of his cows, and we pulled off.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: And I said, well, I'll never forget it. I said, pops,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: how did you know it was going to go that way?
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: He said, because right is right and wrong is wrong,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: and that man knew he was wrong. So we left
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: with a trailer full of cows, and my pops got
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: his money back. I got a whole bunch of stories
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: like that where things could have went sideways, but they didn't.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Not quite Yellowstone worthy, but, you know, things went a
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: little bit different down in the south in the Cal game. Anyways,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: keep it up.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: What I love about that is the phrase, until we
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: feel like we got our money's worth. There was no
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: specific quantity.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: There was no actuarial tables pulled up. Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: There was no, we are going to get exactly this
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  Speaker 1: many cows. No, until I, I'm eating until I'm full.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you don't go from the cowboy to the cattle man.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Without a Yellowstonian idea of justice.
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  Speaker 1: And I will just say this point again, part of
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  Speaker 1: what I loved about that story. And for people who
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  Speaker 1: don't know and don't understand about the way this show works,
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  Speaker 1: I hear these stories the first time everybody else does.
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  Speaker 1: We do this on purpose.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get the natural reaction. I love these stories
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  Speaker 1: where there are activities and things that people stereotypically associate
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  Speaker 1: with black people.
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  Speaker 3: No, sir.
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  Speaker 1: No, sir, it's everybody when it's time to get that money.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Everybody when it's time to get that money.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here's our last one. So my name is Trey.
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  Speaker 3: I'm from South Florida. And I was calling about.
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  Speaker 4: That time that somebody owed me money.
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  Speaker 1: When I was in college, I played football.
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  Speaker 3: I was living with.
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  Speaker 1: Three of my roommates.
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  Speaker 3: So whenever we got the refund checks back, we'd all
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  Speaker 3: pay our rent. at the beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 1: So at the beginning of the year, we paid our rent.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, halfway through the year, we started getting
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: these messages from the landlord.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: And so we realized that.
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  Speaker 3: One of our boys from New York just hadn't been
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  Speaker 3: paying his rent.
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  Speaker 2: So one day we're.
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  Speaker 3: Sitting there, we're.
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  Speaker 4: Sitting there drinking, and my man brought his, he.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Had his girl over, and he hadn't brought her a drink.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm trying not to swear, but so I grabbed
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  Speaker 3: him and I hang him over the balcony. And the
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  Speaker 3: next day he sold his car. But yeah, that's my
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  Speaker 3: story about that time that somebody owed me money.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'd like to know more.
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  Speaker 2: Look, he sold his car so he wasn't dropped.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: He went crazy. straight to the point on that story
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  Speaker 1: like i i i wasn't expecting us to get straight
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  Speaker 1: to anyway i wish you ignite on him and he
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  Speaker 1: sold his i do whatever you need like like my
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: mess i need a picture of the man who called.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I need i want to know the car he sold
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  Speaker 2: yeah like how much money we talking yeah and what
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: is it he said a year's rent like they pay
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the rent for the year so.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: That doesn't sound like enough hey man ladies and gentlemen
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  Speaker 6: i want to thank you so much for joining us
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  Speaker 6: uh here on the right time uh we do this
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  Speaker 6: to our If You Haven't Heard contributor.
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