Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 16th September 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
- 0:08Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the 16th of September, 2026, just after one o'clock.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Welcome to UK Column News. I'm your host, Mike Robinson.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Joining me in the studio today is Charles Mallett. Welcome
- 0:16Speaker 2: to the program, Charles.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike. It's been a while.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Yeah, it has.
- 0:19Speaker 2: And Vanessa Bailey joins us by video link from Lebanon. Now,
- 0:21Speaker 2: later in the program, we'll be reporting on mass demonstrations
- 0:25Speaker 2: in Syria. We'll have the latest digital ID news from
- 0:28Speaker 2: here in the UK. And, well, the question is, will
- 0:31Speaker 2: Argentina call Britain's bluff and take back the Falklands Islands?
- 0:35Speaker 2: behalf of Israel, perhaps, Charles? But we'll begin today with
- 0:40Speaker 2: war spending, because the BBC this morning had this story headlined,
- 0:45Speaker 2: UK and talks about joining global defence bank led by Canada.
- 0:50Speaker 2: And the article says, Chancellor John Healey is considering a
- 0:53Speaker 2: bid to join the Defence Security and Resilience Bank, not
- 0:56Speaker 2: long after his predecessor, Rachel Reeves, rejected the idea Canada
- 1:01Speaker 2: has been leading efforts to establish the bank which supporters
- 1:03Speaker 2: say would enable governments to borrow at lower costs to
- 1:07Speaker 2: increase military spending. Well, that's at least partly nonsense. Britain,
- 1:12Speaker 2: in fact, was the country that led efforts to establish
- 1:15Speaker 2: the bank. We'll come on to that in a second.
- 1:17Speaker 2: The idea for the Global Defence Bank, otherwise known as
- 1:21Speaker 2: the Defence Security and Resilience Bank, or DSRB, began with
- 1:25Speaker 2: a 2019 briefing by former British Armoury Officer Rob Murray,
- 1:29Speaker 2: who's now NATO's head of innovation. And that was given
- 1:33Speaker 2: to the office of the NATO Secretary General. It was
- 1:35Speaker 2: developed publicly through a 2020 Atlantic Council paper by Max
- 1:39Speaker 2: Bergman and Sienna Cicerelli entitled Open a Bank. And then
- 1:45Speaker 2: in April 2023, Financial Times opinion piece by Murray and
- 1:49Speaker 2: Murray's full-length Atlantic Council in-depth report followed on. That was
- 1:56Speaker 2: called How a New Global Defense Bank, the Defense, Security,
- 2:00Speaker 2: and Resilience Bank Can Solve U.S. and Allied Funding Problems.
- 2:03Speaker 2: And that was published on the 13th of December, 2024.
- 2:06Speaker 2: So political momentum built rapidly in 2025 because NATO members
- 2:14Speaker 2: at the Hague in June 2025, the Hague Summit adopted
- 2:19Speaker 2: a 5% of GDP defense investment pledge. And then in
- 2:22Speaker 2: July 2025, a UK government task force, which was co-chaired
- 2:27Speaker 2: by Rachel Reeves and the then Defense Secretary John Healey,
- 2:32Speaker 2: endorsed the creation of the DSRB. And in August 2025,
- 2:38Speaker 2: transatlantic financial leaders, including JPMorgan Chase, Commerce Bank, ING Group
- 2:43Speaker 2: and Landis Bank, Baden-Württemberg announced their public backing. But then
- 2:49Speaker 2: on the 8th of September last year, the DSRB announced
- 2:52Speaker 2: Development Group convened a meeting in the city of London,
- 2:56Speaker 2: and that was attended by representatives from 37 nations, including
- 3:00Speaker 2: all the G7 nations, the European Commission, NATO, the European Parliament,
- 3:04Speaker 2: and also the global ratings agencies. Now, the European Parliament
- 3:08Speaker 2: passed a resolution urging EU member states to participate. And
- 3:14Speaker 2: then on the 29th of April this year, after charter
- 3:17Speaker 2: negotiations in Montreal, 19 founding member nations unanimously agreed selected
- 3:22Speaker 2: Canada as the bank's host country. That was led by
- 3:25Speaker 2: Prime Minister Mark Carney. But of course, in the meantime,
- 3:30Speaker 2: the UK had decided that it was going to step
- 3:31Speaker 2: back from it. And that resulted in this, which was
- 3:34Speaker 2: the resignation of John Healey as Defence Secretary at the time.
- 3:39Speaker 2: And as you remember, he said, as I've outlined to you,
- 3:41Speaker 2: there are credible ways of meeting the midterm funding challenges.
- 3:45Speaker 2: And he was clearly referring to the DSRB. And as
- 3:49Speaker 2: I say, the leader of the as far as wanting
- 3:53Speaker 2: to host the thing was Mark Carney. And that's where
- 3:56Speaker 2: the BBC gets the sort of Canada part of it.
- 4:02Speaker 2: So the question, what happened then, of course, is that
- 4:06Speaker 2: Healy resigned. The City of London event was happened that
- 4:12Speaker 2: the British government pulled out of, and that's why Healy resigned.
- 4:16Speaker 2: And then what happened then was that Canada resigned Once
- 4:21Speaker 2: Burnham became Prime Minister, urged him to reconsider joining the
- 4:25Speaker 2: Global Defence Bank. And that seems to be exactly what
- 4:29Speaker 2: has happened. The Financial Times then was making the point
- 4:34Speaker 2: just after Burnham became Prime Minister and then made John
- 4:38Speaker 2: Healey Chancellor of the Exchequer. They were making the point
- 4:42Speaker 2: that that resulted in shares rising in war, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 2: military related shares rising. And of course that was going
- 4:50Speaker 2: to be the result of the, uh, or at least
- 4:53Speaker 2: the response by the markets. Um, so let's just, uh,
- 4:57Speaker 2: remind ourselves what this is all about, uh, because the DSRB, uh,
- 5:02Speaker 2: if we bring this on screen is, uh, can set
- 5:07Speaker 2: up this way. It provides direct lending to allied governments.
- 5:11Speaker 2: It also provides hedging and leasing services between allies. and
- 5:17Speaker 2: it's also supposed to create supply chain guarantees. It's a
- 5:20Speaker 2: multilateral lending institution, absolutely modeled on the World Bank. It's
- 5:28Speaker 2: going to be owned by the participating nation states, and
- 5:31Speaker 2: it's designed to finance defense, security, and resilience investments across
- 5:36Speaker 2: NATO members and allied democracies. Its central business, as I say,
- 5:41Speaker 2: is loans and so on. But the question then is
- 5:45Speaker 2: how does that actually work in practice? Well, they are
- 5:49Speaker 2: going to have two forms of capital. They're going to
- 5:52Speaker 2: have what's called paid-in capital. It's where the countries that
- 5:55Speaker 2: are involved actually put money into the thing. Well, the
- 5:59Speaker 2: countries that are involved don't have any money to put
- 6:01Speaker 2: into the thing. So that's where the second part of
- 6:03Speaker 2: this comes in, which is subscribed capital, if we just
- 6:06Speaker 2: put that back on screen for a second. And this
- 6:09Speaker 2: is where basically there are pledges made as a result,
- 6:13Speaker 2: and the aim here is to be able to create
- 6:15Speaker 2: AAA rated sovereign bonds. And this is why it was
- 6:18Speaker 2: important that at that city of London meeting, the ratings
- 6:22Speaker 2: agencies were there and that they seem to be on
- 6:24Speaker 2: board with this. But here's the kicker for us as taxpayers.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Any money loans to countries on the basis of this
- 6:35Speaker 2: arrangement basically are off the balance sheet. And so what
- 6:40Speaker 2: does that mean? That means that we can't know, unless
- 6:43Speaker 2: we're told, and it's unlikely that we're going to be
- 6:45Speaker 2: told everything, we can't know how much money is actually
- 6:48Speaker 2: being generated through these bonds and how much money individual
- 6:54Speaker 2: countries are spending on this stuff. It's quite an incredible situation. Now,
- 7:00Speaker 2: there have been some noises from City of London-type organizations saying,
- 7:05Speaker 2: you're not going to fool us. Obviously, bonds are going
- 7:08Speaker 2: to be issued. So there's going to be an idea
- 7:10Speaker 2: of the total amount of money that's being raised by
- 7:12Speaker 2: this thing. But us as British taxpayers won't know how
- 7:15Speaker 2: much our government is paying. And that is just an
- 7:18Speaker 2: incredible situation, Charles.
- 7:20Speaker 1: It's completely incredible. And regulated by whom? Well, precisely.
- 7:25Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:25Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think there are a huge
- 7:28Speaker 5: number of questions to this, but it's so very obvious.
- 7:31Speaker 5: I mean, what you just showed, financial times, clearly this
- 7:34Speaker 5: benefits the defence industry. so-called defence industry and pretty much
- 7:37Speaker 5: nobody else. And if you've got to the point where
- 7:39Speaker 5: you're trying to run an economy and you find that
- 7:45Speaker 5: you can't actually pay for a war that you're wanting
- 7:47Speaker 5: to have, that might be a moment to think about
- 7:49Speaker 5: whether or not it's the right thing to be doing
- 7:51Speaker 5: in the first place.
- 7:51Speaker 1: But again, apparently not.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we might not know how much money
- 7:55Speaker 2: is being spent by the British government on this stuff,
- 7:57Speaker 2: how much money they're actually taking from this bank, but
- 7:59Speaker 2: our children, our grandchildren are going to know about it
- 8:02Speaker 2: because we are going to have to pay that back
- 8:04Speaker 2: at some point. Unless, you know, they do actually manage
- 8:07Speaker 2: to succeed in kicking off a war and we don't
- 8:10Speaker 2: need to worry about anything anymore.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Well, there we go. Yeah. Make it up. Yes.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Okay. Let's move on from there then. And Lucy Ledby, Charles,
- 8:19Speaker 2: what's the latest on this story?
- 8:20Speaker 5: Well, back in the news, because finally, after quite some
- 8:26Speaker 5: considerable period of time, a report has been published by
- 8:29Speaker 5: the Thirlwall Inquiry. This is something that's been run by
- 8:34Speaker 5: Lady Justice Thirlwall from 2023. So it's taken three years
- 8:38Speaker 5: to put this together. A very, very long report has
- 8:41Speaker 5: been published. And it's essentially to examine the events, or
- 8:45Speaker 5: at least in its own words, examining the events at
- 8:48Speaker 5: the Countess of Chester Hospital between 2015 and 2018. I
- 8:53Speaker 5: think it might be fair to say that it is
- 8:56Speaker 5: also a terrific insight into the purpose of an establishment
- 9:00Speaker 5: organization inquiry, or indeed how to cover up what you
- 9:04Speaker 5: want to cover up. As for Lady Justice Thirlwall herself,
- 9:08Speaker 5: she wrote in a way to introduce the report, she wrote,
- 9:12Speaker 5: my focus has been on the questions asked in the
- 9:16Speaker 5: terms of reference, not on the guilt of Lucy Letby
- 9:19Speaker 5: or on her convictions. Now, it's interesting that she would
- 9:24Speaker 5: make such a statement because this would seem to be
- 9:26Speaker 5: demonstrably not true both in the report itself, but also
- 9:30Speaker 5: in the very terms of reference that she says that
- 9:32Speaker 5: she's been adhering to. So the terms of reference, as
- 9:36Speaker 5: they were set out in 2023, were said to be
- 9:38Speaker 5: covering three broad areas. And I'm not going to go
- 9:43Speaker 5: through all of them, but some of them are to
- 9:46Speaker 5: cover the conduct of those working at the hospital with
- 9:49Speaker 5: regard to the actions of Lucy Letby, whether Lucy Letby
- 9:53Speaker 5: should have been suspended earlier, and whether the Trust's Culture Management, sorry,
- 9:58Speaker 5: this is the NHS Trust, to the failure to protect
- 10:01Speaker 5: babies from Lucy Letby. In other words, the whole predication
- 10:13Speaker 5: of the inquiry is in effect a fixation on the
- 10:15Speaker 5: position that the only thing that went wrong during that
- 10:18Speaker 5: period was the presence of Lucy Letby herself. So her
- 10:23Speaker 5: words are absolutely contradicted by what has been put out. Now,
- 10:29Speaker 5: at almost exactly the same time, which seems like a
- 10:31Speaker 5: remarkable coincidence, we have the Daily Telegraph here reporting that
- 10:34Speaker 5: two experts quit Letby's defence team over inconsistent arguments. In particular,
- 10:43Speaker 5: what's said is that two of the scientists who've been
- 10:46Speaker 5: effectively used by the defence to form an independent panel
- 10:50Speaker 5: of scientists to undermine the conviction of Lucy Letby, they're
- 10:57Speaker 5: quoted as saying, whilst it's entirely legitimate for the defence
- 11:00Speaker 5: to advance multiple arguments, some of the other arguments now
- 11:04Speaker 5: being put forward we cannot support as scientifically credible and
- 11:08Speaker 5: and which have, in our view, fundamental unresolvable problems. Now,
- 11:13Speaker 5: as obviously exemplified by the fact that that's been printed
- 11:16Speaker 5: in the Telegraph, this has been seized upon by the
- 11:19Speaker 5: mainstream media who are consistently desperate that Lucy Letby is
- 11:23Speaker 5: guilty and that we're all reminded all the time that
- 11:26Speaker 5: she is guilty. But at first glance, what is said
- 11:30Speaker 5: by those scientists might of course seem problematic because it
- 11:32Speaker 5: does seem fairly fundamental. It seems emphatic, might seem undermining,
- 11:37Speaker 5: but this is explained or at least set in context
- 11:39Speaker 5: by Mark McDonald, who's the barrister who's been representing Lucy
- 11:44Speaker 5: Letby over this whole period. And he appeared on BBC
- 11:48Speaker 5: Newsnight with Victoria Derbyshire, who was very much attempting to
- 11:51Speaker 5: give him an extremely hard time about this, but this
- 11:54Speaker 5: is how he handled the, uh, well, the quitting of
- 11:58Speaker 5: these two so-called experts.
- 12:02Speaker 6: I asked Mr MacDonald if their withdrawal damaged his attempt
- 12:06Speaker 6: to persuade the CCRC to refer the Letby case to
- 12:09Speaker 6: the Court of Appeal.
- 12:12Speaker 1: It doesn't.
- 12:12Speaker 4: Of course it doesn't.
- 12:13Speaker 6: It absolutely undermines your case. They are saying some of
- 12:16Speaker 6: what you're putting forward is demonstrably inaccurate and creates serious
- 12:21Speaker 6: ethical issues.
- 12:21Speaker 4: Yes, I disagree with that.
- 12:24Speaker 6: You can't dismiss it just like that. These are experts
- 12:26Speaker 6: in their field. And up until today, they were backing
- 12:30Speaker 6: you and now they're not.
- 12:32Speaker 4: No, they weren't backing me. They were showing that the
- 12:35Speaker 4: conviction and the assay testing that was put before the
- 12:38Speaker 4: jury was unreliable. That's what they were showing. What they're
- 12:43Speaker 4: saying is, we think our argument's better than your argument
- 12:46Speaker 4: and therefore we're coming out of it. Now, that's one
- 12:48Speaker 4: way of doing it. The other way of doing it is,
- 12:50Speaker 4: stay in. go to the CCRC, let the Court of
- 12:54Speaker 4: Appeal decide.
- 12:55Speaker 6: Or stand by your principles. Or stand by your principles
- 12:59Speaker 6: and pull out because some of the stuff you're putting forward,
- 13:02Speaker 6: they say, is inaccurate.
- 13:04Speaker 4: Well, they may say that they haven't seen everything. I mean,
- 13:06Speaker 4: that's the other problem. The one thing I didn't do
- 13:09Speaker 4: is show every expert every other person's report because that
- 13:13Speaker 4: would be wrong. That would undermine the event. They haven't
- 13:16Speaker 4: seen everything.
- 13:17Speaker 6: But what they're saying is some of the arguments now
- 13:18Speaker 6: being put forward we cannot support are scientifically credible.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Yes, but they don't know what the arguments are. Right.
- 13:24Speaker 4: So that's their press release. That's what they've said.
- 13:27Speaker 6: That's their letter to the CCRC.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Well, no, that's an email that was sent at midnight
- 13:31Speaker 4: last night. I know because I was CC'd into it.
- 13:34Speaker 4: That's what they say. I fundamentally disagree with it. And
- 13:38Speaker 4: more importantly, they don't know what I put into the
- 13:41Speaker 4: CCRC because I haven't told them. So how on earth
- 13:45Speaker 4: could they make that conclusion? But really, it comes back
- 13:48Speaker 4: to this. Both sets of experts say... that Lucy Letby
- 13:52Speaker 4: is innocent, right? One set of expert remains in the CCRC.
- 13:57Speaker 4: One set of experts have withdrawn. But they both are
- 14:00Speaker 4: of the same position that whatever happened at the trial,
- 14:04Speaker 4: what took place at the trial was wrong.
- 14:06Speaker 1: So I think you mentioned.
- 14:09Speaker 5: extremely important points and some very compelling ones but essentially
- 14:13Speaker 5: the the logic of the position that has apparently been
- 14:15Speaker 5: taken therefore reported by the telegraph the bbc and all
- 14:18Speaker 5: the rest of it is that there seems to be
- 14:19Speaker 5: a disagreement with something that cannot actually be known because
- 14:22Speaker 5: he hasn't shared it with them and i think this
- 14:24Speaker 5: is a number of uh one of a number of
- 14:27Speaker 5: very many contradictions that run the whole way through this
- 14:30Speaker 5: and and indeed in the report and one of the
- 14:32Speaker 5: points you know from from the report as i say
- 14:34Speaker 5: it's very very long there is a sentence which says
- 14:37Speaker 5: that um If the babies whom Letby was convicted of
- 14:43Speaker 5: murdering were removed from the annual number of deaths in
- 14:46Speaker 5: the neonatal unit, the mortality figures for the countess would
- 14:49Speaker 5: be three deaths in 2015 and three deaths in 2016,
- 14:52Speaker 5: broadly consistent with the previous year's. And that seems to
- 14:56Speaker 5: be the logic that if you basically, if you take
- 15:01Speaker 5: Lucy Letby out of the equation because you're absolutely convinced
- 15:05Speaker 5: that she was guilty and there can be no other explanation,
- 15:07Speaker 5: then all is well. And that seems to be exactly
- 15:10Speaker 5: sort of where this is going. Now, as to the
- 15:12Speaker 5: recommendations which were made, there were a number of them,
- 15:14Speaker 5: but I think it's noteworthy that there were two in
- 15:17Speaker 5: particular being pushed. The first of which was that cots
- 15:20Speaker 5: and incubators in neonatal units should be fitted with baby
- 15:23Speaker 5: monitors and incot cameras with live streaming video. And the
- 15:28Speaker 5: other was that until access to insulin storage is controlled
- 15:32Speaker 5: by biometric data, each trust should install CCTV cameras. Now, interesting,
- 15:37Speaker 5: because of course, there were 17 recommendations, and yet it
- 15:40Speaker 5: was these two that were given enormous amounts of prominence. Now,
- 15:45Speaker 5: such as being the ferocity with which Letby's apparent guilt
- 15:47Speaker 5: has been defended, it's often seemed like there's a greater
- 15:50Speaker 5: purpose to this conviction. But just before we comment further
- 15:55Speaker 5: on that, I'm just going to go to the BMA
- 15:58Speaker 5: because they put out a statement which was much more
- 16:03Speaker 5: mild in its language. They said that what is immediately apparent, however,
- 16:08Speaker 5: is that the hospital's management was simply not up to
- 16:11Speaker 5: the task of keeping patients safe. After multiple senior doctors
- 16:15Speaker 5: raised concerns, they were palmed off and told to stop
- 16:18Speaker 5: causing a fuss. This is sadly not unusual in the NHS.
- 16:22Speaker 5: So the point to be made there is that they
- 16:24Speaker 5: were really calling for regulation of non-clinical managers, which is
- 16:28Speaker 5: where they see the problem lying. And Tom Dolphin, who's
- 16:31Speaker 5: their chair, was pushed very hard on the idea of
- 16:34Speaker 5: cameras were a great idea. This was the BBC this morning.
- 16:38Speaker 5: He resisted that and said that greater consideration needs to
- 16:42Speaker 5: be gone into. And I think just as a kind
- 16:45Speaker 5: of closing remark, just the timing of this seems deliberate,
- 16:49Speaker 5: a sort of deliberate attempt to destabilise the outcome of
- 16:52Speaker 5: the Criminal Cases Review Commission, the CCRC, into the decision
- 16:56Speaker 5: of whether or not this is going to be overturned.
- 16:58Speaker 5: So I think there's plenty more to talk about it,
- 17:00Speaker 5: but I don't know if you've got any thoughts on it.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Just very quickly, I mean, At the end of the day,
- 17:05Speaker 2: I think there are absolutely enough people raising enough concerns
- 17:09Speaker 2: about the veracity of the original conviction that there should
- 17:12Speaker 2: be no hesitation about putting it into the appeals court.
- 17:15Speaker 2: At the end of the day, an appeal is another
- 17:18Speaker 2: judicial process where evidence is presented and the decision has
- 17:22Speaker 2: to be made on the basis of the evidence. If
- 17:24Speaker 2: the conviction is signed, then what's the problem about doing that?
- 17:28Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 17:29Speaker 5: And an entire inquiry has, in effect, wasted three years
- 17:32Speaker 5: because it has been fixated on something that may actually
- 17:34Speaker 5: not be the case.
- 17:35Speaker 2: And how many millions? I mean, it looks to me,
- 17:37Speaker 2: I could be wrong about this, it's just my opinion,
- 17:40Speaker 2: but it looks to me that this is a massive
- 17:41Speaker 2: cover-up because of what was going on at the hospital.
- 17:44Speaker 2: And I think it's happening in other hospitals as well.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Indeed, yeah.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Vanessa, let's welcome you to the programme. And of course,
- 17:52Speaker 2: you know, we've been talking about what's been going on
- 17:54Speaker 2: in Syria for many, many years. You've been highlighting... the
- 17:58Speaker 2: likely implications of Jelani becoming the president there since the
- 18:04Speaker 2: overthrow of Bashar al-Assad. Now we're starting to see people
- 18:09Speaker 2: out on the streets again.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Yes, protests again in Syria. Of course, not protests over
- 18:17Speaker 3: the mass ethnic cleansing, massacres of minorities, displacement of minorities,
- 18:23Speaker 3: the theft of homes by foreign mercenary terrorist groups. But
- 18:29Speaker 3: this is over the rising of, or the raising, sorry,
- 18:33Speaker 3: of fuel prices in an unprecedented hike. Now, what this
- 18:39Speaker 3: actually means, there have been mass protests across Syria and across,
- 18:42Speaker 3: I think, across about eight provinces. But what did this
- 18:46Speaker 3: actually mean? So here is an image of one of
- 18:49Speaker 3: the road closures. They've effectively been burning tires to prevent
- 18:53Speaker 3: the road transport companies bringing oil from any of the
- 18:59Speaker 3: areas that produces oil in the region into Syria. And effectively,
- 19:06Speaker 3: on Sunday, the new prices were announced. So basically, all
- 19:11Speaker 3: petroleum products. Diesel had a 40% rise, and that's probably
- 19:17Speaker 3: the product that is most used, particularly, of course, by
- 19:20Speaker 3: the agricultural sector in Syria. Gasoline, 28% rise. Household gas cylinders,
- 19:27Speaker 3: 9% rise. And that includes industrial gas cylinders also that
- 19:33Speaker 3: run to a large degree, the health service and so on.
- 19:37Speaker 3: On top of that, I'm going to add the rising
- 19:39Speaker 3: education costs. If I can just go back for a second, William, please.
- 19:44Speaker 3: The rising education costs, the privatization of hospitals, and of course,
- 19:48Speaker 3: the soaring unemployment Much of that is down to the
- 19:51Speaker 3: fact that members of the various minority communities have been
- 19:56Speaker 3: sacked from their jobs from December 2024 onwards. But if
- 20:01Speaker 3: we actually, I actually also just want to show this
- 20:04Speaker 3: 10 seconds of video showing the HTS or al-Qaeda reaction
- 20:11Speaker 3: to the protest. So forgive me, Mike, but the current
- 20:29Speaker 3: Syrian government is firing on protesters. Wouldn't that be a
- 20:34Speaker 3: violent crackdown, exactly the same as the one that was
- 20:36Speaker 3: described to criminalize President Assad back in 2011? But if
- 20:42Speaker 3: we move on to the map of Syria, we can
- 20:45Speaker 3: see where really the protests were focused. There were some
- 20:50Speaker 3: to the south of Damascus, but the majority, for example,
- 20:53Speaker 3: were in areas like Hamar to the west there, up
- 20:58Speaker 3: into Idlib, Aleppo, and then across the eastern sector there
- 21:03Speaker 3: in Hasakah, but also closing the roads between Raqqa and
- 21:08Speaker 3: Deir ez-Zor, and also closing the roads coming from Turkey
- 21:11Speaker 3: and coming from northern Syria down to Damascus. So basically...
- 21:16Speaker 3: paralyzing the country pretty much and actually stopping the supply,
- 21:20Speaker 3: as I said, of any petroleum products into the capital
- 21:24Speaker 3: in particular. Now, we do have to remember that this
- 21:28Speaker 3: comes on the back of President Trump lifting the Caesar sanctions,
- 21:32Speaker 3: some of the most barbaric economic pressure put on Syria
- 21:38Speaker 3: unprecedented in years, although Syria, of course, had been under
- 21:42Speaker 3: sanctions since 1979. But the most recent is that the
- 21:45Speaker 3: Arab League ends 15 years of sanctions. So while the
- 21:50Speaker 3: sanctions are being lifted, investment allegedly is coming into the country.
- 21:54Speaker 3: And yet the current al-Qaeda government sees fit to basically
- 22:00Speaker 3: rise prices across the board. while the country is attempting
- 22:03Speaker 3: to recover. I do direct people to an article I
- 22:06Speaker 3: wrote about a year ago talking about Tom Barrack and
- 22:09Speaker 3: the globalist cabal and the crony capitalist al-Qaeda regime, and
- 22:15Speaker 3: exactly the same scenario as in Iraq previously, money allegedly
- 22:19Speaker 3: being poured into Syria, but of course not. It's going
- 22:22Speaker 3: into the pockets of Washington representatives and the crony capitalist
- 22:29Speaker 3: leaders now in Syria. And what was Jalani doing or
- 22:33Speaker 3: Ahmed al-Shara while all this is going on, while the
- 22:36Speaker 3: country is effectively burning? Well, there you go. He was
- 22:40Speaker 3: at an Arab media summit in Dubai where he outlined
- 22:45Speaker 3: his vision for Syria's future. So let's have a quick look.
- 22:50Speaker 3: Here he is basically meeting with the vice president originally.
- 22:56Speaker 3: And then let's just play the contained video. And you
- 23:00Speaker 3: can see his brotherly relationship with Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahran.
- 23:06Speaker 3: He spoke warmly about his relationship with the president, calling
- 23:10Speaker 3: him a brother and expressing deep respect for him. Nothing
- 23:13Speaker 3: to do with the money that might come in from
- 23:15Speaker 3: the UAE.
- 23:15Speaker 2: Of course.
- 23:16Speaker 3: He said his interactions with the UAE president had left
- 23:19Speaker 3: a strong impression of his credibility and approach to leadership. UAE,
- 23:24Speaker 3: of course, the closest to Israel of the Zionist Arab
- 23:27Speaker 3: Persian Gulf states. one of the first to sign the
- 23:31Speaker 3: Abraham Accords. Then I just wanted to focus in on
- 23:34Speaker 3: some of the things that Jelani actually said. So this
- 23:37Speaker 3: was the first one that I picked up on. So
- 23:41Speaker 3: he said, basically, this is slightly paraphrased, when Damascus was
- 23:45Speaker 3: liberated in 2024, the GDP was 20 billion. In 2025,
- 23:46Speaker 3: it grew to 32 billion. Expectations are that it will
- 23:49Speaker 3: reach 50 billion this year. Well, hold on a minute.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the GDP in 2010 before
- 24:03Speaker 3: Jalani and the entire Western Zionist bloc started the regime
- 24:08Speaker 3: change war. Guess what? It was at 60 billion. So
- 24:12Speaker 3: in 2010, Syria was an emerging economy in the Middle
- 24:17Speaker 3: East area. It was progressing quickly towards a very successful, secure,
- 24:24Speaker 3: stable country before, of course, the 14-year regime change war
- 24:28Speaker 3: end the two years of Jolani dictatorship. And of course,
- 24:32Speaker 3: as usual, what do we see? We see the poor
- 24:35Speaker 3: people getting poorer and whatever investment is coming into Syria
- 24:40Speaker 3: is lining the pockets of those in control. And that
- 24:43Speaker 3: includes the Gulf States and Washington. And then let's have
- 24:49Speaker 3: a look at a couple of the other things that
- 24:50Speaker 3: he said during the conference. So he said, of course,
- 24:55Speaker 3: there are great opportunities for the EU. So he basically
- 25:01Speaker 3: said that this is an opportunity for investment, investment, investment.
- 25:07Speaker 3: And what he's talking about, of course, is bypassing the
- 25:10Speaker 3: straight informers. And this one made me laugh. So he said,
- 25:15Speaker 3: Syria is transitioning from a system resembling socialism. characterized by
- 25:20Speaker 3: corruption and bureaucracy, nothing to do with the current regime,
- 25:24Speaker 3: of course, toward a more market-oriented system that supports the
- 25:27Speaker 3: private sector and a free market economy. Sounds like global
- 25:32Speaker 3: capitalism and debt enslavement to me. And then I just
- 25:38Speaker 3: wanted to show, so in response to Jalani's very wishful
- 25:42Speaker 3: statements from the UAE, where he said the Syrian people
- 25:44Speaker 3: are so much happier since the fall of Assad, This
- 25:48Speaker 3: was just one of the videos circulating where you can
- 25:50Speaker 3: see Jelani's face being stamped on. And I want a
- 25:55Speaker 3: reminder for people that Trump back in 2020 made it
- 26:00Speaker 3: very clear when people asked him, why are you staying
- 26:04Speaker 3: in Syria? Trump said, because I kept the oil, which
- 26:07Speaker 3: frankly we should have done in Iraq. He added cheers
- 26:10Speaker 3: and applause from the audience. The president had previously criticized
- 26:14Speaker 3: his predecessors for not profiting from from Iraqi oil wells.
- 26:18Speaker 3: So they say Trump's in Syria. I didn't pull out.
- 26:21Speaker 3: I didn't pull out. The president continued, we have the
- 26:24Speaker 3: oil really secure. We'll see what happens with it. Well,
- 26:28Speaker 3: becoming increasingly clear that the people of Syria are going
- 26:31Speaker 3: to have no benefit from the 16 years of interference
- 26:36Speaker 3: in Syrian affairs by the West, Israel, Turkey, and the
- 26:39Speaker 3: Gulf states.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Indeed, plenty to talk about later in UK Column News Extra.
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- 28:25Speaker 2: be fantastic. Anyway, of course, don't forget that this weekend
- 28:29Speaker 2: is our 20th anniversary on location event in Plymouth. If
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- 28:46Speaker 1: It really will be.
- 28:46Speaker 5: And if you are coming, please look out for an
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- 29:09Speaker 2: Now, no germ warfare tonight because germ is on its
- 29:13Speaker 2: way to Plymouth. So the only program tonight is 9 p.m.
- 29:17Speaker 2: And it's another Chinese historical one. The Secret Alliance to
- 29:21Speaker 2: Change Chinese History. Carl will be presenting that at 9 p.m.
- 29:25Speaker 2: That should be good fun. Now, let's see, where does
- 29:28Speaker 2: that take us then? I guess it takes us to
- 29:32Speaker 2: the state of our electricity infrastructure and Palantir, in fact.
- 29:37Speaker 2: So this is Neso. Neso effectively is the national grid rebranded.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Is that right, Charles?
- 29:45Speaker 5: Yes, in a way. I mean, it's, of course, like
- 29:48Speaker 5: all these things, it's been sort of rebranding. It doesn't
- 29:50Speaker 5: quite do the same thing. It's not entirely clear that
- 29:52Speaker 5: it really does anything that's of much use, but nonetheless.
- 29:56Speaker 2: But anyway, it is publicly owned by the British people
- 30:00Speaker 2: and it manages the electricity system in this country. And
- 30:04Speaker 2: they have decided to award Palantir a contract worth £ 21
- 30:07Speaker 2: million with no competitive tender process required, apparently. Now, the
- 30:13Speaker 2: transparency notice was put up on Find a Tender that
- 30:17Speaker 2: you can see on screen at the moment. And that
- 30:18Speaker 2: was put up at 6.04pm on the 26th of August.
- 30:22Speaker 2: And then the earliest signature date on this is the
- 30:24Speaker 2: 8th of September. So that gave us all 13 days
- 30:27Speaker 2: of public notice on a £ 21 million contract. And that's
- 30:31Speaker 2: assuming anybody was looking. So National Energy System Operator, as
- 30:36Speaker 2: you say, runs two critical business processes under this contract.
- 30:40Speaker 2: One is called Connections and the other one is called
- 30:42Speaker 2: Skip Rates. We'll talk about what those are in just
- 30:45Speaker 2: one second. And this is being run on Palantir's foundry platform.
- 30:49Speaker 2: And the contract covers continued licensing and support for Foundry
- 30:55Speaker 2: hosting both those applications and it runs until the 31st
- 30:58Speaker 2: of July, 2027. And ESSO made the award directly under
- 31:02Speaker 2: Section 41 of the Procurement Act 2023 using paragraph six
- 31:06Speaker 2: of schedule five, which is the absence of competition for
- 31:09Speaker 2: technical reasons. And the reasoning they say in this notice
- 31:13Speaker 2: is that Foundry rests on proprietary architecture licensed exclusively by Palantir,
- 31:20Speaker 2: and that the company holds the specialist knowledge and system
- 31:23Speaker 2: knowledge needed to support Neso in what they're doing. And
- 31:26Speaker 2: they say that moving to another supplier is not possible
- 31:29Speaker 2: without significant cost, resource commitment, and delivery risk. It would
- 31:34Speaker 2: require redeveloping the analytics environment, migrating data, obtaining security accreditation
- 31:39Speaker 2: for any replacement, and retraining staff. And they say that
- 31:42Speaker 2: a competitive procurement forward replacement is underway and a pre-market
- 31:47Speaker 2: engagement notice has been published. But the interim contract carries
- 31:51Speaker 2: six-month extensions, which brings it to the 31st of July, 2028.
- 31:54Speaker 2: And it also says that there could be risks in
- 31:59Speaker 2: a transition. In other words, legacy data structures, security, data quality,
- 32:03Speaker 2: and regulatory compliance. And if any of those actually materialize,
- 32:07Speaker 2: then the contract could be modified to extend it even
- 32:10Speaker 2: further than that. So It seems to be they're giving
- 32:13Speaker 2: themselves plenty of opportunity to keep going no matter what.
- 32:17Speaker 2: And then a separate notice describes a strategic enterprise modeling capability,
- 32:23Speaker 2: which is running from July 27 to July 2032. And
- 32:28Speaker 2: that's extendable by two years. And whoever wins it, therefore,
- 32:33Speaker 2: could hold it to 2034. So by the time that happens,
- 32:39Speaker 2: bidding opens Palantir is going to have run the system
- 32:41Speaker 2: for four years. It's going to have managed to transition
- 32:44Speaker 2: out of the legacy systems. And so, you know, basically
- 32:49Speaker 2: they are bought in Glide and Syncur to the federated
- 32:52Speaker 2: data platform. And now let's just talk a thing, talk
- 32:58Speaker 2: about the two main processes that Nestle is managing here.
- 33:04Speaker 2: The first is connections to the grid. And that's everything
- 33:08Speaker 2: from wood farms to data centers. But the other was
- 33:12Speaker 2: this idea of so-called skip rates. Now, as many people
- 33:15Speaker 2: will know, one of the main jobs of Nesso is
- 33:17Speaker 2: to balance supply and demand on the grid, because if
- 33:20Speaker 2: they don't do that, apparently our entire electrical network could
- 33:24Speaker 2: fall over and we end up with blackouts and so on.
- 33:28Speaker 2: So a skip is when a cheaper balancing action is
- 33:31Speaker 2: passed over in favor of a more expensive one. And
- 33:35Speaker 2: they might do this, for example, if a battery storage
- 33:37Speaker 2: installation offering cheap power doesn't hold enough charge to cover
- 33:42Speaker 2: the full requirement for this balancing act that they do.
- 33:46Speaker 2: So these are, they say, fundamental operation processes for Britain's
- 33:50Speaker 2: electricity supply. And now they both sit on Palantir and
- 33:56Speaker 2: on a platform that NSO has told the government it
- 33:58Speaker 2: can't leave without significant cost and risk. I'm sure we're
- 34:02Speaker 2: all comfortable with that. But the biggest complainants here, by
- 34:06Speaker 2: the way, because most people aren't even aware that this
- 34:08Speaker 2: has been going on, are the battery storage people, the
- 34:13Speaker 2: people that are building these big battery storage infrastructure things
- 34:17Speaker 2: around the country, because they're providing what they consider to
- 34:20Speaker 2: be cheap electricity supply and Neso is not grabbing it.
- 34:25Speaker 1: I have no sympathy.
- 34:26Speaker 6: No.
- 34:27Speaker 1: But yes, no, it is interesting.
- 34:29Speaker 5: The reason I say that is because there is absolutely
- 34:31Speaker 5: no doubt that those companies battery energy storage systems, BESS,
- 34:35Speaker 5: are absolutely designed with arbitrage in mind. The whole point
- 34:39Speaker 5: is that they get to fleece the system by saying
- 34:41Speaker 5: we're there to support this wind or this solar project.
- 34:44Speaker 5: But in actual fact, they are purely there to fill
- 34:48Speaker 5: up with electricity at the time they can and then
- 34:53Speaker 5: sell it back to the grid when the price is
- 34:55Speaker 5: suitable for them as opposed to it being of any
- 34:58Speaker 5: benefit to anybody. So yet another instance that drives bills up.
- 35:02Speaker 2: But sticking with energy then, nuclear fusion, is it ever
- 35:05Speaker 2: going to happen?
- 35:05Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that really is a question, Mike. And I'm
- 35:09Speaker 5: not sure I know the answer. I'm also not at
- 35:11Speaker 5: all sure the government knows the answer, but it's making
- 35:13Speaker 5: out that it does. And we have an announcement from
- 35:15Speaker 5: the Department of, sorry, for energy security and net zero.
- 35:20Speaker 5: And this is a partnership, another partnership between the UK
- 35:24Speaker 5: and the US to accelerate clean energy, apparently via, as
- 35:29Speaker 5: Mike says, nuclear fusion. Now, they helpfully describe nuclear fusion.
- 35:35Speaker 5: They say that it replicates the process that powers the sun.
- 35:38Speaker 5: Combining hydrogen atoms to release vast amounts of energy has
- 35:42Speaker 5: the potential to provide a secure source of clean energy
- 35:44Speaker 5: for generations to come without producing carbon emissions during operation.
- 35:50Speaker 5: And then I think a sentence that's attached to every
- 35:53Speaker 5: single press release the government's ever put out, which is
- 35:56Speaker 5: while creating thousands of skilled jobs, backing British businesses and
- 35:59Speaker 5: unlocking significant economic opportunities for the UK. Now, how much
- 36:03Speaker 5: of that you might believe is up to you. Of course,
- 36:07Speaker 5: it sounds very good. And if it were to work,
- 36:11Speaker 5: then that would be, in a way, a good result
- 36:14Speaker 5: for the energy consumer, the country, and perhaps much else besides.
- 36:19Speaker 5: But we have to ask the question, how much progress
- 36:22Speaker 5: has actually been made? And so we look back to
- 36:24Speaker 5: 2022 to the UK Atomic Energy Authority and and their
- 36:28Speaker 5: announcement then about STEP fusion, the spherical tokamak for energy production.
- 36:33Speaker 5: It's basically to use a facility up in Burton on Trent,
- 36:38Speaker 5: the former power station there, the prototype for fusion energy.
- 36:42Speaker 5: And they have said in the release about that particular
- 36:48Speaker 5: development that it's targeting first operations in the early 2040s. Now,
- 36:53Speaker 5: of course, What's not clear from the partnership I've just
- 36:58Speaker 5: been describing is whether that timeline is changed at all
- 37:01Speaker 5: or whether it has any effect on the project that
- 37:03Speaker 5: is apparently in motion at Burton. Now, this is not
- 37:07Speaker 5: an isolated announcement because, of course, at almost exactly the
- 37:10Speaker 5: same time, the Atomic Energy Authority put out a release,
- 37:14Speaker 5: almost mirroring, saying that there's a partnership related to fusion
- 37:19Speaker 5: and it concerns supercomputers, which is to be linked across
- 37:23Speaker 5: the Atlantic. So they say that the the Atomic Energy
- 37:27Speaker 5: Authority and the United States Department of Energy's Princeton Plasma
- 37:31Speaker 5: Physics Laboratory, PPPL, have joined forces to link their advanced
- 37:37Speaker 5: fusion supercomputing platforms using artificial intelligence to accelerate fusion energy
- 37:42Speaker 5: use development. I think this is where we're getting a
- 37:43Speaker 5: bit closer to what it's all about. Further, Sunrise is
- 37:47Speaker 5: the UK's first AI supercomputer dedicated to fusion energy, backed
- 37:51Speaker 5: by £ 45 million from the UK government. and it forms
- 37:54Speaker 5: the first phase of computing infrastructure underpinning the UK's first
- 37:58Speaker 5: AI growth zone established at Cullum campus. So it seems
- 38:04Speaker 5: at face value that this is a system designed to
- 38:08Speaker 5: create energy to help AI create more energy. I think
- 38:15Speaker 5: I've got that right. So in other words, When one
- 38:19Speaker 5: looks at it in another way, how much help to
- 38:21Speaker 5: the overall energy supply? Essentially, is NISO's job going to
- 38:24Speaker 5: be made easier by any of this if it does
- 38:27Speaker 5: actually happen, especially if we're considering it's not going to
- 38:30Speaker 5: happen until the 2040s? Just to get a better idea
- 38:32Speaker 5: of what I'm talking about, I don't mean to sound
- 38:34Speaker 5: overly cynical, we will just have a look at Ofgem,
- 38:38Speaker 5: because they have recently put out a document saying that
- 38:41Speaker 5: they are acting to free up grid capacity by tackling
- 38:45Speaker 5: speculative data center projects now mike has talked about this
- 38:48Speaker 5: before but i think it's absolutely worth going into again
- 38:50Speaker 5: and from their document here the proposals come as demand
- 38:55Speaker 5: connection applications have surged from 41 gigawatts to 125 gigawatts
- 39:00Speaker 5: in under a year this rise is driven largely by
- 39:03Speaker 5: data center projects accounting for at least 80 gigawatts so
- 39:08Speaker 5: the point is that this is very much describing a
- 39:11Speaker 5: system that's sort of being pushed on only to be
- 39:13Speaker 5: able to deal with the stuff that's actually coming along
- 39:16Speaker 5: the pipeline, which is a completely perverse set of circumstances.
- 39:21Speaker 5: And on top of this, I just want to remind
- 39:23Speaker 5: you what it is that NISO says. And this relates
- 39:26Speaker 5: very much to what Mike's just been talking about, the
- 39:28Speaker 5: balancing mechanism and the the skip costs and the rest
- 39:31Speaker 5: of it. But the constraints collaboration project, which is basically
- 39:34Speaker 5: where the money has to go once something needs to
- 39:36Speaker 5: be switched off. Transmission thermal constraint costs are increasing year
- 39:41Speaker 5: on year as more renewable projects come online. I mean,
- 39:43Speaker 5: that alone takes some beating. And it goes on to
- 39:47Speaker 5: say the majority of constraint management action projects taken by
- 39:50Speaker 5: the niso involve the redispatch or curtailment of generators leading
- 39:55Speaker 5: to increasing cost and carbon impact so in a sense
- 40:00Speaker 5: nice idea if fusion were the answer were the solution
- 40:03Speaker 5: but when on earth is it going to happen.
- 40:05Speaker 2: Well that's i said to you before the program charles
- 40:07Speaker 2: 50 years ago is a 50-year problem and it's still a.
- 40:10Speaker 5: 50-year problem i suppose the other issue which we might
- 40:13Speaker 5: touch on an extra is who's going to make the
- 40:14Speaker 5: money out of it.
- 40:14Speaker 2: Uh indeed um okay so uh Vanessa, let's come on
- 40:23Speaker 2: to the question of whether Mr. Jelani is going to
- 40:29Speaker 2: stick around for very much longer as president of Syria.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Well, I think that's one of the questions in the mix.
- 40:38Speaker 3: The other question is whether the protests are being engineered,
- 40:43Speaker 3: and we'll get onto that right now. But first of all,
- 40:46Speaker 3: this was an image that was sent to me that
- 40:48Speaker 3: was found in Turkish media, apparently taken from a secret
- 40:54Speaker 3: Ministry of Defense presentation, which, as you can see, shows
- 40:59Speaker 3: very clearly, if you bring it in closer, the annexation
- 41:03Speaker 3: of Syrian territory from the north all the way down
- 41:07Speaker 3: to Latakia on the coast, so the entire coastal area, which,
- 41:11Speaker 3: of course, does tie in with the Mavi Vatan or
- 41:16Speaker 3: the Blue Homeland doctrine that Erdogan is attempting to bring
- 41:21Speaker 3: to fruition, which, of course, is the control of the
- 41:24Speaker 3: eastern Mediterranean and the Aegean seas, which brings him into
- 41:29Speaker 3: conflict with Greece, hence why Greece and Cyprus and Israel
- 41:32Speaker 3: are forming a coalition to deal with that part of it.
- 41:36Speaker 3: But this was quite interesting. This was an article that
- 41:39Speaker 3: someone sent to me that had been published in Turkish media.
- 41:42Speaker 3: This is a very bad translation, but it gives you
- 41:45Speaker 3: an idea. Preparations to go to Damascus disrupted Israel's plans.
- 41:49Speaker 3: Erdogan's visit was the murderer's scribe. I'm not quite sure
- 41:52Speaker 3: how that translated into that. But basically what they're saying
- 41:56Speaker 3: in the article is that Israel or Netanyahu was planning
- 42:00Speaker 3: to to go to Damascus to make a speech in
- 42:03Speaker 3: Damascus regarding his control of Syria or strategic points in
- 42:08Speaker 3: Syria prior to the Israeli elections. He was derailed by
- 42:14Speaker 3: the arrival of Hakan Fidan, the Turkish foreign minister. And basically,
- 42:22Speaker 3: Netanyahu then put a deal through to Turkey saying that
- 42:27Speaker 3: Can we divide Syria? That allegedly was refused by Turkey.
- 42:33Speaker 3: And now in the media report, they're saying maybe Israel
- 42:36Speaker 3: will start orchestrating protests and riots in order to be
- 42:41Speaker 3: able to invade Syria. Now, while all of that may
- 42:45Speaker 3: have some credence or veracity, let's have a look at
- 42:50Speaker 3: what Hakan Fidan actually said during his very recent visit
- 42:54Speaker 3: to Syria. So he started basically criticizing Israel, which is
- 42:59Speaker 3: quite normal, despite the fact that Turkey has been supplying
- 43:02Speaker 3: oil and metal and weapon parts to Israel since October
- 43:07Speaker 3: the 7th, even during the genocide. So he said, Israel
- 43:11Speaker 3: is such a conditioned state. We saw this in the
- 43:14Speaker 3: Gaza genocide. It cannot even imagine another policy than bloodshed.
- 43:19Speaker 3: An entire region is approached through the language of threat
- 43:22Speaker 3: and hostility. He then also went on to say, as
- 43:28Speaker 3: long as everyone in the region stays within their own borders,
- 43:31Speaker 3: does not covet anyone else's land, does not work to
- 43:34Speaker 3: destabilize others, there is enough economic prosperity, happiness and peace
- 43:39Speaker 3: for everyone. Now, I would take that as a message
- 43:42Speaker 3: to Israel, despite their refusal of the Israeli proposal, that
- 43:49Speaker 3: there is potential for coming to an agreement over Syrian territory.
- 43:54Speaker 3: It's also sort of overwhelmingly ironic, Turkey saying something like that,
- 44:00Speaker 3: when of course they were responsible very much for the
- 44:02Speaker 3: invasion of Syria from the beginning, from 2011. Then let's
- 44:07Speaker 3: have a look at this, how Turkey's possible annexation will
- 44:12Speaker 3: tie in with the Israeli vision for Syria. So this
- 44:16Speaker 3: is about the David's Corridor, which is to the east
- 44:19Speaker 3: of Syria there. So Israel coming in through the southern territory,
- 44:23Speaker 3: which it's already beginning to occupy and annex, and then
- 44:27Speaker 3: going up the eastern flank, potentially into Iraq and potentially
- 44:33Speaker 3: further to the west, the northwest. so taking control of
- 44:37Speaker 3: the oil-rich region. And then Turkey coming down, it already
- 44:42Speaker 3: has control of the northern territories up to the northeast,
- 44:47Speaker 3: and then coming down towards the north of Lebanon, which
- 44:51Speaker 3: of course is where Turkey also has interests in Tripoli
- 44:55Speaker 3: to the north of Lebanon. And so potentially there being
- 44:59Speaker 3: a carving up of Syria and that all of this
- 45:02Speaker 3: rhetoric that's coming from both Israel and Turkey is just
- 45:06Speaker 3: all about making gains inside Syria. Now, I did ask
- 45:09Speaker 3: someone whether there was any potential for an invasion of
- 45:12Speaker 3: Damascus by Israel, and they told me the likelihood Israel
- 45:16Speaker 3: will come to the borders or very close to the
- 45:19Speaker 3: border of Damascus, and then negotiations will begin to basically
- 45:24Speaker 3: carve the country up. So again, let's wait and see.
- 45:28Speaker 3: But very interesting at the same time, that Russian naval
- 45:32Speaker 3: vessels have been seen arriving at their former naval base
- 45:36Speaker 3: in Tartus. Remember, we've reported on the new deal between
- 45:41Speaker 3: Jelani and Russia, where effectively Russia has lost much of
- 45:45Speaker 3: the control over the naval and military bases on the
- 45:49Speaker 3: eastern Syrian coastal area. But the fact that these ships
- 45:52Speaker 3: have appeared now, according to the report, it's the naval
- 45:58Speaker 3: destroyer Admiral Levchenko, The Sparta, a military logistics vessel, and
- 46:04Speaker 3: the academic Pashin, a replenishment vessel designed for supplying other
- 46:08Speaker 3: ships at sea. The fourth vessel of the flotilla, the
- 46:12Speaker 3: oil tank called General Skorbelev, is not visible in the image.
- 46:17Speaker 3: And according to the report, the docking of Russian vessels
- 46:21Speaker 3: backs up analyst assessments that coal geopolitical bargaining has enabled
- 46:25Speaker 3: the Kremlin to hold onto its bases in Syria, which
- 46:28Speaker 3: of course is their launchpad into Africa. Syria's new leadership
- 46:33Speaker 3: needed things only Russia could offer, Ruslan Trad, a Syria analyst,
- 46:37Speaker 3: told RFE. Among other factors, Syria's weapon stocks are largely
- 46:42Speaker 3: Russian and Damascus needs to refill the warehouses. Now, there
- 46:46Speaker 3: is potential for that, that Russia will provide weapons to
- 46:50Speaker 3: Jalani for maintaining the base on the eastern coast. But
- 46:53Speaker 3: I would also suggest that this is an attempt by
- 46:56Speaker 3: Russia to protect its assets if Turkey is going to
- 46:59Speaker 3: expand into the coastal region.
- 47:03Speaker 4: Okay.
- 47:03Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Vanessa.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Okay.
- 47:05Speaker 2: Back to the UK then. And well, everybody will be
- 47:08Speaker 2: delighted to know if we bring this on screen that pubs, bars, restaurants,
- 47:13Speaker 2: music venues, and other licensed premises across England and Wales
- 47:16Speaker 2: are going to have the choice to introduce digital proof
- 47:19Speaker 2: of age for alcohol sales under new rules coming into force. Well,
- 47:23Speaker 2: they did come into force yesterday. So that's according to
- 47:27Speaker 2: the Andy Burnham regime. Instead of handing over a card
- 47:30Speaker 2: with your name and address, you'll show a QR code
- 47:33Speaker 2: or tap your phone and staff get a yes or
- 47:35Speaker 2: a no. It's going to be optional for businesses and
- 47:38Speaker 2: it runs on certified third party providers rather than a
- 47:43Speaker 2: government app. So that'll be Yoti or the likes of that,
- 47:46Speaker 2: I would imagine. Now, the press release sets it out
- 47:50Speaker 2: as a privacy positive thing. And I suppose in a
- 47:53Speaker 2: limited sense it is because the pub learns less about
- 47:56Speaker 2: you than it does from a driving license. On the
- 47:59Speaker 2: other hand, the digital ID provider knows you went to
- 48:02Speaker 2: the pub that night. And so they begin to track
- 48:05Speaker 2: your activities in that sense. Now, the wider point is
- 48:08Speaker 2: that a national habit of proving who you are on
- 48:11Speaker 2: a phone has now just been given its most sort
- 48:16Speaker 2: of everyday use case. And naturally it targets teenagers because
- 48:20Speaker 2: that's likely to be the Least friction and convenience is everything, Charles,
- 48:25Speaker 2: isn't it?
- 48:26Speaker 1: So it seems. Yes.
- 48:29Speaker 2: Well, in the meantime, the rollout of live facial recognition
- 48:32Speaker 2: builds ever more momentum. So Kent Police have announced they've
- 48:35Speaker 2: made 18 arrests over two days in Chatham, 11 of
- 48:38Speaker 2: them directly from cameras and seven from officers patrolling nearby.
- 48:42Speaker 2: Cheshire ran its third Chester deployment on Saturday, paired with
- 48:47Speaker 2: a 48-hour dispersal order. Greater Manchester Police used it at
- 48:52Speaker 2: the Derby, where it identified one person out of 17
- 48:56Speaker 2: arrests on the day. That's an impressive number.
- 48:58Speaker 1: Isn't it? You might say that.
- 49:02Speaker 2: Well, maybe we should be asking more about what we're
- 49:04Speaker 2: giving up in return for that kind of impressive arrest rate.
- 49:07Speaker 2: But Charles, I'm looking forward. forward to the day when
- 49:10Speaker 2: we're told about the convictions that have come out of
- 49:12Speaker 2: live facial recognition, because so far all the stats are
- 49:15Speaker 2: just about arrests. Maybe that's because it takes three years
- 49:18Speaker 2: to get anybody into court in the first place.
- 49:20Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is a very interesting one because at
- 49:24Speaker 5: what point do we arrive where we believe a camera
- 49:30Speaker 5: or a computer more than we would a human being?
- 49:32Speaker 5: So is this going to go further in terms of
- 49:36Speaker 5: positive identification that the technology can be relied upon? above
- 49:41Speaker 5: anything else so i mean you know there are so
- 49:43Speaker 5: many dangers with this but i think i absolutely think
- 49:45Speaker 5: that's that is one of them waiting to happen yes uh.
- 49:48Speaker 2: Well now let's uh come on to the story that's
- 49:51Speaker 2: been doing the rounds in the news recently and that's eddington.
- 49:54Speaker 5: It is i mean completely related to all of this
- 49:58Speaker 5: to digital id and um live facial recognition because of
- 50:01Speaker 5: course this concerns migration which is the uh hanger upon
- 50:05Speaker 5: which the government certainly have been basing many of their
- 50:08Speaker 5: plans for some sort of an identity system. But this
- 50:11Speaker 5: is a village in Oxfordshire, which has conducted a referendum.
- 50:16Speaker 5: And I'm just going to show a clip from GB
- 50:18Speaker 5: News from this morning so that you can see what
- 50:21Speaker 5: has happened.
- 50:24Speaker 7: I am Susanna Pardon. I am the vice chair of
- 50:27Speaker 7: the Piddington Parish Council. And I have the privilege today
- 50:32Speaker 7: of being the returning officer of for this historic vote
- 50:37Speaker 7: that this village held yesterday on the 15th of September, 2026.
- 50:44Speaker 7: And the question was, do you support Piddington to secede
- 50:49Speaker 7: from the UK and pursue self-determination? I am pleased to
- 50:56Speaker 7: announce that last night, following our village meeting, the votes
- 51:02Speaker 7: were counted and verified. We had 312 votes counted, which
- 51:10Speaker 7: is nearly 92% of the ballot papers issued. And the
- 51:16Speaker 7: results are as follows. We had 285 yes votes. We
- 51:38Speaker 7: had 26 no votes and we had one ballot paper
- 51:44Speaker 7: that was spoiled and will not be included in this count.
- 51:49Speaker 7: I am now going to pass to Tim McNally to
- 51:52Speaker 7: say a few words. But before I go, I just
- 51:56Speaker 7: wanted to say we are Piddington, the village that roars.
- 52:07Speaker 5: This has had some coverage for a while, and what
- 52:09Speaker 5: it concerns is the plan by the government to put 1,256
- 52:13Speaker 5: migrant men into part of Bicester Garrison, which is very,
- 52:18Speaker 5: very close to the village of Piddington. So this is
- 52:22Speaker 5: the action that they've decided to take, and of course
- 52:24Speaker 5: it's been seized upon by the mainstream as an exercise
- 52:28Speaker 5: that they can belittle with great zeal. It's been described as.
- 52:35Speaker 5: As only being symbolic, although symbolic of quite what is
- 52:38Speaker 5: never really emphasised. Now, as far as the government is concerned,
- 52:41Speaker 5: it's been subject to an urgent Crown development application. And
- 52:47Speaker 5: exactly like Mike's just been saying about the Palantir relationship
- 52:50Speaker 5: with NISO, the representation period ran only from the 17th, sorry,
- 52:55Speaker 5: from the 7th to the 17th of September. So in
- 52:58Speaker 5: other words, it finishes tomorrow. And as I say, this
- 53:01Speaker 5: has been treated, in effect, as something as though it's
- 53:04Speaker 5: just sort of a lighthearted issue, something that people really, frankly, should,
- 53:09Speaker 5: you know, take a little bit of interest in, but
- 53:11Speaker 5: nothing more than that. Just to reinforce a point about
- 53:13Speaker 5: the passage of information, the Charwell District Council, which is
- 53:17Speaker 5: the administrative body for the area, said that the government
- 53:20Speaker 5: has announced its proposal to temporarily house up to 1,250
- 53:24Speaker 5: single adult males at an alternative accommodation centre at Site
- 53:28Speaker 5: A of the former Bicester Garrison site. And then they
- 53:31Speaker 5: go on to say that Charwell District Council was not
- 53:33Speaker 5: consulted on these plans and was only notified of them
- 53:36Speaker 5: hours before they came public knowledge. So this is the
- 53:39Speaker 5: sort of disregard with which the government has been treating
- 53:44Speaker 5: the public and in particular.
- 53:45Speaker 1: The villagers of Piddington.
- 53:49Speaker 5: Of course, mainstream media have now descended upon the place
- 53:52Speaker 5: and have brought out some legitimate concerns because essentially the
- 53:56Speaker 5: position was that there was.
- 53:57Speaker 1: Going to be.
- 53:59Speaker 5: a problem with having that many men, regardless of where
- 54:01Speaker 5: they came from. But of course, now, I think in
- 54:04Speaker 5: a legitimate sense, because this has now become an issue
- 54:08Speaker 5: that has brought people like Danny Tomo of the Patriot Platform,
- 54:11Speaker 5: who we've reported on quite a bit recently, just suggesting
- 54:15Speaker 5: that there's actually interference now from a much wider Zionist agenda.
- 54:20Speaker 5: And of course, it makes life very difficult for those
- 54:23Speaker 5: villages exactly where this will go.
- 54:26Speaker 1: Who knows? But significant nonetheless, I think, Mike. Absolutely.
- 54:32Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on then to, well, a constitutional issue, Charles,
- 54:36Speaker 2: because Andy Burnham has made a written statement to the
- 54:41Speaker 2: House on the 10th of September saying that restrictions in
- 54:47Speaker 2: the Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829 and the Jews Relief
- 54:51Speaker 2: Act 1858, which prevent Catholics and Jews from advising the
- 54:56Speaker 2: sovereign on appointments to the Church of England, and the
- 54:59Speaker 2: Church of Scotland are going to be removed. We just
- 55:02Speaker 2: bring this on screen. This is the independent Catholic News
- 55:04Speaker 2: coverage of it. So he unilaterally announced they had transferred
- 55:10Speaker 2: that responsibility to the Lord Chancellor instead. He said that
- 55:14Speaker 2: a bill would follow to correct what he called an
- 55:16Speaker 2: antiquated and archaic anomaly. The bill itself is called the
- 55:21Speaker 2: Church Appointments Brackets Repeal of Discriminatory Provision Bill, and it
- 55:25Speaker 2: was presented yesterday by Louise Haye. to who's chancellor of
- 55:29Speaker 2: the Duchy of Lancaster. And so this is the first
- 55:33Speaker 2: bill of Burnham's government, the very first thing that he's done.
- 55:37Speaker 2: And it targets the specific clauses in those two acts.
- 55:41Speaker 2: But the question is why now? Well, undoubtedly it's because
- 55:43Speaker 2: Burnham is a Catholic himself and he clearly couldn't be
- 55:47Speaker 2: seen as only bringing forward legislation that lifts the restriction
- 55:50Speaker 2: on Catholics and leaves the restriction on Jews. But the
- 55:55Speaker 2: National Secular Society claimed credit for this being done because
- 55:58Speaker 2: they had written to the cabinet office in August, calling
- 56:02Speaker 2: for an end to the ban, arguing that it was
- 56:04Speaker 2: rooted in historical anti-Catholicism and anti-Semitism and was hard to justify.
- 56:10Speaker 1: In a modern liberal democracy.
- 56:11Speaker 2: Now, of course, they welcomed the legislation, but they want
- 56:14Speaker 2: to see the job finished, so to speak, with the
- 56:17Speaker 2: complete separation of church and state. The only real criticism
- 56:21Speaker 2: of the bill so far has come from Jacob Rees-Mogg,
- 56:23Speaker 2: who argued that it's entirely sensible that Catholics and Jews
- 56:27Speaker 2: may not make Church of England appointments because it's the
- 56:30Speaker 2: established church and that ministers should in fact take power
- 56:34Speaker 2: back from the current committee, but it should be restricted
- 56:37Speaker 2: to Anglican ministers only. And he concluded by saying that
- 56:41Speaker 2: if the law changes, it should be narrowed to Anglicans
- 56:44Speaker 2: only and that the existing position is not a grave injustice.
- 56:48Speaker 2: It's just common sense. Now, just before I get to
- 56:51Speaker 2: your thoughts on this, Charles, I just wanted to read what,
- 56:53Speaker 2: I asked Alex Thompson what his thoughts were on this earlier.
- 56:57Speaker 2: And he said, well, it's the first time he's aware
- 57:00Speaker 2: of that HMG has described the constitution as outdated. And
- 57:03Speaker 2: then point two here was, when will Anglicans get to
- 57:07Speaker 2: appoint the Roman Catholic Bishop of Westminster or the Board
- 57:11Speaker 2: of Deputies of British Jews? So it doesn't work in
- 57:13Speaker 2: that direction, in other words. And then he said that
- 57:16Speaker 2: MPs shirked their responsibilities to oversee Church of England government
- 57:21Speaker 2: a century ago, which caused the setting up of the
- 57:23Speaker 2: self-governing Church Assembly in 1919, now known as the General Synod,
- 57:28Speaker 2: with only Episcopal appointments kept outside the scope of Church
- 57:31Speaker 2: of England self-government. HMG exploits this to keep Church of
- 57:37Speaker 2: England nominally established while pretending that Episcopal appointments are a
- 57:41Speaker 2: royal prerogative. on prime ministerial advice. This ensures the Church
- 57:46Speaker 2: of England bishops, with their social clout and airtime, are
- 57:49Speaker 2: government compliant. And I think that is the key point,
- 57:53Speaker 2: isn't it?
- 57:54Speaker 1: Completely the key point. Yeah, absolutely. Alex, on the button
- 57:58Speaker 1: as usual. As usual, yes. And seemingly in agreement with
- 58:02Speaker 1: the MOG.
- 58:04Speaker 2: But let's finish then today with the Falklands, Charles.
- 58:06Speaker 1: Yeah, we will.
- 58:08Speaker 5: Because this has been in the news for some time,
- 58:11Speaker 5: but specifically the point that I want to deal with
- 58:14Speaker 5: goes back to what might be described as the fallout
- 58:16Speaker 5: from Edmund Aban's speech last week, apparently on Israel and
- 58:20Speaker 5: Palestine and the extraordinarily weak sanctions regime that he talked
- 58:23Speaker 5: about implementing at some point during the next six to
- 58:26Speaker 5: nine months. But in response to that, one of the
- 58:28Speaker 5: people that couldn't resist tweeting about it was the the
- 58:33Speaker 5: Israeli minister, Itamar Ben-Gavir. And what he said was that
- 58:38Speaker 5: it's time for the state of Israel to publicly recognize
- 58:41Speaker 5: that the Malvinas Islands are Argentine territory under occupation, which
- 58:46Speaker 5: the British violently steal from the Argentine people. So I
- 58:50Speaker 5: don't know whether he's been using chat GPT or what.
- 58:52Speaker 5: But anyway, he went on to say, the British are
- 58:55Speaker 5: not content with merely occupying the territory. They also carry
- 58:58Speaker 5: out oil drilling there. and steal the money from the
- 59:02Speaker 5: Argentine people. I call upon Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to
- 59:06Speaker 5: recognise Argentina's sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands and to impose
- 59:10Speaker 5: sanctions on Great Britain as long as the occupation continues.
- 59:14Speaker 5: The childishness to one side, I thought in particular, the
- 59:19Speaker 5: oil drilling was of interest. And it turns out that
- 59:22Speaker 5: in fact, it is as reported here by Reuters, somewhat confusingly,
- 59:26Speaker 5: Israeli investors in crosshairs of Argentina's Millet over Falklands oil project.
- 59:30Speaker 5: So what exactly does this mean? Well, we're talking really
- 59:34Speaker 5: about the exploration in Falkland that's going on at the minute.
- 59:38Speaker 5: And that is considerable. There's obviously a bit of B-roll
- 59:41Speaker 5: footage running now. And this concerns the Sea Lion project.
- 59:46Speaker 5: And that's run in large part by Navitas Petroleum, which has,
- 59:51Speaker 5: as you can see in the top right there, a
- 59:54Speaker 5: 65% working interest in it. And what Ben-Gavir seemed not
- 59:58Speaker 5: to know was that Navitas is, of course, an Israeli company.
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: And operating 65% of the Sea Lion project. The other
- 1:00:07Speaker 5: part of it is taken by Rockhopper Exploration, essentially a
- 1:00:11Speaker 5: British company, but listed in the substantial shareholders are the
- 1:00:16Speaker 5: top five, three of which are Israeli. So I just
- 1:00:20Speaker 5: thought it was worth pointing out that extraordinary bit of
- 1:00:23Speaker 5: presumably accidental hypocrisy, but one never knows these days.
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: No, absolutely.
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thank you, Charles. Thank you, Vanessa. We've got to
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: leave it there for today. Now, we've got to say
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: this weekend is a big one and the programme begins
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: on Friday for our on-location event here in Plymouth. So
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: there will be no UK column news on Friday. We'll
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: be back for the news on Monday at 1pm as usual.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: But we will still have material going out tomorrow at
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: 1pm and on Friday at 1pm if you want to
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: be part of that. But I would encourage you actually
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: to forget about that and instead get a ticket for
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: the live stream and join us live on Friday afternoon.
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: That would be a much better.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: Idea, wouldn't it? It absolutely would. Yes, please do.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Well, thanks everyone for joining us today. We'll see you
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: for extra if you UK column member in a few minutes. Otherwise,
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: as I say, Monday at 1pm.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: See you then. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.