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- 0:00Speaker 1: In a remote village in India, a woman reported her
- 0:03Speaker 1: baby missing. The police would arrive, and that's when a
- 0:06Speaker 1: young boy would come forward, smiling, and he would lead
- 0:09Speaker 1: them right to the body. And this is not a
- 0:12Speaker 1: work of fiction, as terrifying as it sounds. This is
- 0:16Speaker 1: the true story of Amargite Sada, a boy who, by
- 0:20Speaker 1: the age of eight, had taken three lives. Born into poverty,
- 0:25Speaker 1: raised in silence, and driven by something even his own
- 0:28Speaker 1: parents couldn't understand. Amargit would become known as the youngest
- 0:32Speaker 1: serial killer in recorded history. But his case is only
- 0:36Speaker 1: the beginning, which is horrifying because in this video we
- 0:39Speaker 1: are going to uncover three of the most disturbing cases
- 0:43Speaker 1: of juvenile killers the world has ever seen, spanning Rule India,
- 0:48Speaker 1: suburban Canada and the outskirts of Madrid. Children who killed
- 0:53Speaker 1: without any remorse and victims barely older than toddlers, and
- 0:57Speaker 1: some even younger so trigger war there and crimes that
- 1:01Speaker 1: challenge everything we thought we knew about psychology, justice and innocence,
- 1:07Speaker 1: from the cultural stigmas that hid warning signs to legal
- 1:10Speaker 1: systems unequipped for murderers in grade school. This is not
- 1:14Speaker 1: just a story about murder. It's a story about what
- 1:17Speaker 1: happens when childhoods turn deadly. Conspiracy, cults, serial killers and
- 1:23Speaker 1: murder all things that I love to consume and I
- 1:26Speaker 1: know you do too, you sick, twisted, beautiful, intellectually minded freak,
- 1:30Speaker 1: and today we are doing just that. And my lord,
- 1:33Speaker 1: it's these kids. I thought I was scared of kids already,
- 1:37Speaker 1: but it's about to get wicked twisted up in here. So,
- 1:40Speaker 1: like I said, trigger warning there, we're going to be
- 1:42Speaker 1: talking about kids. It's like psychopathic children. And also obviously
- 1:47Speaker 1: some of the deaths involved children as well, So just
- 1:49Speaker 1: know that before going into this. But without further ado,
- 1:52Speaker 1: let's unbuckle our seatbelts, go mag five down the highway,
- 1:54Speaker 1: slam on the brakes, and bust through this windshield into these.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Three cruel children together.
- 2:20Speaker 1: So before Amarjite Seeda ever took a life, before his
- 2:24Speaker 1: name would unsettle headlines across the world, he was just
- 2:28Speaker 1: a kid. He was just a child born into a
- 2:30Speaker 1: system that never saw him coming. Amargite was born in
- 2:33Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight in Bugerisaya, a rural district of Bihar, India,
- 2:38Speaker 1: and at the time the region was one of the
- 2:40Speaker 1: most impoverished and neglected in the entire country. The infrastructure
- 2:44Speaker 1: was very minimal, electricity was very unreliable, and education was
- 2:49Speaker 1: a luxury to say the least, and healthcare, especially mental
- 2:54Speaker 1: health care, was practically non existent. So in these forgotten
- 2:58Speaker 1: pockets of India, a superstition often stood in place of science, and.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Mental illness was just not understood at all.
- 3:06Speaker 1: It was basically just feared or concealed completely, or just
- 3:10Speaker 1: blamed on other entities or spirits. So families struggling with
- 3:15Speaker 1: psychological disorders just didn't seek therapy. They thought something was
- 3:19Speaker 1: wrong with them, and not that something very common was
- 3:21Speaker 1: wrong with them, but something was inside them and wrong
- 3:25Speaker 1: with them, that makes sense, So they would turn to
- 3:27Speaker 1: local shamans, or worse, they would just do nothing at all.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So the fear of public shame meant that most of
- 3:33Speaker 1: these cases were just buried quietly, especially in a small,
- 3:37Speaker 1: tightly woven community where reputations quite literally meant survival.
- 3:41Speaker 2: And in Amarjite's village, poverty.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Wasn't just a statistic it was basically just a way
- 3:47Speaker 1: of life. So his family lived in a very densely
- 3:50Speaker 1: packed neighborhood made of mud brick homes and open drains.
- 3:54Speaker 1: His parents would work as laborers, earning barely enough to
- 3:57Speaker 1: feed their children. But more dangerous than the poverty here
- 4:01Speaker 1: was the silence. Children with any sort of behavioral issues
- 4:04Speaker 1: were rarely seen as mentally unwell. They were called troublesome, moody,
- 4:09Speaker 1: or simply cursed, like actually they thought they were cursed,
- 4:13Speaker 1: and few recognized the warning signs, obviously given the lack
- 4:16Speaker 1: of care, and fewer still had the.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Means to actually act on them.
- 4:21Speaker 1: And so when Emergite began exhibiting troublesome behavior, no one
- 4:25Speaker 1: asked questions that should have come first, you know, questions
- 4:29Speaker 1: like what the hell was going on inside Emergite's mind,
- 4:33Speaker 1: what's causing him to act out like this? But instead,
- 4:37Speaker 1: like so many other children born into these margins, he
- 4:40Speaker 1: was just left to his own world, one that was
- 4:43Speaker 1: shaped by suffering, superstition and silence. And in that silence,
- 4:47Speaker 1: something very, very very dark began to grow. So Emergite
- 4:53Speaker 1: entered the world as another child born into poverty in
- 4:56Speaker 1: a village where survival came way before any sort of psychology,
- 5:01Speaker 1: but long before Amargite ever picked up a brick, which
- 5:04Speaker 1: we'll get to there were signs. First off, he was
- 5:08Speaker 1: never liked by other children. He didn't really have any
- 5:11Speaker 1: friends because in the village, Boyce's age played together and
- 5:14Speaker 1: swam on the pond, and when other children asked him
- 5:17Speaker 1: to play, he reportedly would sometimes lash out in sudden
- 5:21Speaker 1: bursts of anger at them, so they were like, whoa, okay, shit, dude,
- 5:24Speaker 1: you don't have to play Marco polo with us, Like
- 5:26Speaker 1: I don't know. So. Villagers would later describe him as
- 5:28Speaker 1: strange but polite, which I find very hard to believe,
- 5:32Speaker 1: but also notably withdrawn. He was very to himself, and
- 5:36Speaker 1: looking back, these were the early indicators of detachment and
- 5:40Speaker 1: harmful potential. And his mother, Parule noticed the difference too.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Emergite just had this temper and an intensity that she
- 5:48Speaker 1: just couldn't explain. She didn't know where it came from,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and instead of turning to doctors, she would turn to tradition.
- 5:54Speaker 1: She would smear black cajal beneath his eyes to ward
- 5:57Speaker 1: off evil, and placed an amulet of protect from the
- 6:00Speaker 1: Hanuman temple around his arms. But no amulet could stop
- 6:04Speaker 1: what was manifesting inside this evil little child. But obviously
- 6:09Speaker 1: she didn't know any better. She just thought that maybe
- 6:11Speaker 1: it was an evil spirit, maybe that this will help
- 6:14Speaker 1: you know, so it's of no fault of her own.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Emershititt would have no formal education as well. There was
- 6:20Speaker 1: basically no access to structure therapy or any sort of guidance.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Some reports even mentioned neglect from his parents. And it
- 6:28Speaker 1: would be around this time that tragedy would first strike,
- 6:31Speaker 1: seemingly out of nowhere. Emerghet's infant cousin would die under
- 6:36Speaker 1: suspicious circumstances, and his family would have to make a
- 6:40Speaker 1: devastating choice. They would keep quiet, They would call it
- 6:43Speaker 1: an accident, and they would shield him that they are
- 6:47Speaker 1: responsible for and I don't have an excuse for them
- 6:50Speaker 1: for so. Basically they were rewarding the behavior of their
- 6:53Speaker 1: murdering child. Not ahhh, not the best parent. That probably
- 6:59Speaker 1: worst pay award, I'd say. So with not punishing your
- 7:02Speaker 1: child or not making them be held accountable, the darkness
- 7:05Speaker 1: inside him would quickly unfold. So, like I said, his
- 7:09Speaker 1: first victim was very close to home. It was his
- 7:12Speaker 1: younger cousin, and there seems to be a bit of discrepancy.
- 7:15Speaker 2: From various sources of the age of.
- 7:17Speaker 1: The victim, but his cousin was an infant, so one
- 7:20Speaker 1: day the infant would seemingly vanish, and shortly thereafter her
- 7:24Speaker 1: body would be found and it was clear that she
- 7:26Speaker 1: had been beaten to death, and there would be no trial,
- 7:30Speaker 1: no police reports her family. Basically, Emergite's family just chose
- 7:34Speaker 1: to stay silent, even though they knew that Amargite had
- 7:38Speaker 1: done the crime. And then not long after, his infant's
- 7:42Speaker 1: sister would be his next victim, and his sister would
- 7:44Speaker 1: be just eight months old, and Amargite would strangle her
- 7:48Speaker 1: to death with his bare hands like just horrifying, But
- 7:53Speaker 1: again the family did not report the crime, and whether
- 7:57Speaker 1: out of shame, fear, or just pure disbelief, they buried
- 8:03Speaker 1: not just their child, but the truth. So in two
- 8:06Speaker 1: thousand and seven, the village was shaken when a third
- 8:09Speaker 1: child would go missing, six month old Kushbu, the daughter
- 8:13Speaker 1: of a neighbor. Her mother had left her sleeping at
- 8:15Speaker 1: the local school while she just stepped away, but when
- 8:18Speaker 1: she returned, the child was completely missing, and no one
- 8:22Speaker 1: was prepared for the truth that had actually occurred. So
- 8:24Speaker 1: the community gathered around and a search began to break out.
- 8:28Speaker 1: But not long after that Armergite would step forward and
- 8:32Speaker 1: he would confess very casually, even cheerfully, and officers just
- 8:37Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. They thought naturally that it was a prank.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I mean, this kid is eight years old, He's a
- 8:43Speaker 1: small child. How could he have done this horrible crime?
- 8:47Speaker 1: And if he was to do it, maybe it was
- 8:48Speaker 1: an accident, but why would he be happy about it?
- 8:51Speaker 1: They were just really confused. But that's when he would
- 8:54Speaker 1: lead them to the body hidden away. Her tiny body
- 8:57Speaker 1: lay buried in a shallow grave, and the infant had
- 9:01Speaker 1: been strangled and bludgeoned to death with a brick. And
- 9:04Speaker 1: when questioned by police, Emergite reportedly smiled through his entire
- 9:09Speaker 1: confession and even asked for biscuits at the beginning of it,
- 9:12Speaker 1: and as investigators listened, just completely stunned. He described the
- 9:17Speaker 1: murder with chilling detachment, just pure psychopathic behavior. He was
- 9:22Speaker 1: quoted to say, she was sleeping in the school. I
- 9:25Speaker 1: took her a little away, killed her with a brick
- 9:28Speaker 1: and buried her, just like absolutely chilling. There's just something
- 9:33Speaker 1: about a child with so much detachment that is next
- 9:38Speaker 1: level horrifying. So forensic psychologists would be brought in and
- 9:43Speaker 1: their official conclusion would be that Amargite was a sadist,
- 9:47Speaker 1: a child who found pleasure in inflicting pain. So this
- 9:51Speaker 1: was not a prank gone wrong. It was not the
- 9:53Speaker 1: product of a playground fight. This was something far, far
- 9:58Speaker 1: darker and far rarer. Now the world would finally take
- 10:02Speaker 1: notice a little too late, if you ask me so.
- 10:04Speaker 1: When the news broke that an eight year old had
- 10:07Speaker 1: killed three infants, it sent shock waves across India and
- 10:11Speaker 1: the world. But once the horror of his confession settled,
- 10:14Speaker 1: authorities were left with the difficult question what do you
- 10:17Speaker 1: do with a killer child? And at the time of
- 10:20Speaker 1: Amarshite's arrest in two thousand and seven, India law was
- 10:24Speaker 1: very clear. A child under the age of eighteen could
- 10:26Speaker 1: not be tried as an adult, and there would be
- 10:29Speaker 1: no prison sentence, no criminal trial, no possibility of life imprisonment,
- 10:34Speaker 1: and certainly no death penalty. So instead, Amarshite was placed
- 10:38Speaker 1: in a juvenile detention facility, the only legal option available
- 10:41Speaker 1: at the time, and there he would spend the next
- 10:43Speaker 1: ten years, the maximum sentence allowed for a minor under
- 10:47Speaker 1: Indian law, and behind closed doors. Rehabilitation efforts would begin,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and reports suggested he received counseling, education, and behavioral therapy.
- 10:55Speaker 2: But the truth is.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Almost nothing is known about what happened inside the world walls.
- 11:00Speaker 1: There were no updates, zero interviews, and the file on
- 11:04Speaker 1: Amargjiteta slowly disappeared from public view. And then in twenty sixteen,
- 11:09Speaker 1: he would turn eighteen years old and under Indian law,
- 11:12Speaker 1: his record.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Was completely sealed.
- 11:14Speaker 1: So with his file closed, his identity was changed to
- 11:17Speaker 1: protect his future and prevent vigilante retaliation, which I'm.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Like, don't don't let that guy out.
- 11:23Speaker 1: If he can do that at eight what the fuck
- 11:25Speaker 1: could he do at eighteen years old. Now he's in
- 11:28Speaker 1: his mid twenties. Now that's terrifying. And today his current
- 11:32Speaker 1: location is completely unknown to the public. Some say he
- 11:35Speaker 1: relocated under government protection, but others believe he may have
- 11:38Speaker 1: quietly reintegrated into society under a new identity and what
- 11:42Speaker 1: remains is just his horrifically chilling legacy. So Amarjitzeta is
- 11:46Speaker 1: still confirmed the youngest serial killer in modern history, and
- 11:50Speaker 1: somewhere perhaps walking among us, he just lives his life
- 11:55Speaker 1: as a full grown man who is a full blown
- 11:58Speaker 1: psychopathic sadist, with his passed completely erased and his secrets
- 12:02Speaker 1: completely buried, So the question still lingers. Can someone who
- 12:06Speaker 1: kills before they learn to even write truly be free
- 12:11Speaker 1: from who they were? To be honest, I don't think
- 12:14Speaker 1: so in this case. I feel like this is pure nature.
- 12:17Speaker 1: I feel like like he was born with this in him,
- 12:21Speaker 1: and I don't know if there's any way out of it.
- 12:23Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Psychologists and professionals were able to get through to him,
- 12:29Speaker 1: but I'm that be very scary, very very scary. But
- 12:34Speaker 1: that brings us to our next child, and that is
- 12:38Speaker 1: Jasmine Richardson. So, before the headlines, before the world would
- 12:49Speaker 1: recoil at the idea of a twelve year old killer,
- 12:53Speaker 1: Jasmine Richardson was just a girl. Born in nineteen ninety
- 12:57Speaker 1: three in the city of Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada. Jasmine
- 13:00Speaker 1: Richardson grew up in what most would describe as a
- 13:03Speaker 1: pretty ordinary middle class home. Her parents, Mark and Deborah Richardson,
- 13:07Speaker 1: had met during recovery.
- 13:09Speaker 2: From substance abuse.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Actually, so there were two people who were dead set
- 13:13Speaker 1: and committed to starting over and raising a family far
- 13:16Speaker 1: away from their past mistakes, and together they would build
- 13:19Speaker 1: a new life. Mark was a very hard working man.
- 13:22Speaker 1: He was strict but very loving, and Deborah was known
- 13:25Speaker 1: to be a very soft spoken and warm mom and
- 13:28Speaker 1: partner who stayed very involved in her children's lives. And
- 13:31Speaker 1: Jasmine was their first born, followed five years later by
- 13:34Speaker 1: her little brother, Jacob, and the family was very close
- 13:37Speaker 1: by all accounts. They spent a lot of time together
- 13:40Speaker 1: and had a lot of family outings, and by all accounts,
- 13:43Speaker 1: Jasmine was very bright. She made the honor roll in
- 13:45Speaker 1: her Catholic school. She performed in fine arts programs, She
- 13:49Speaker 1: laughed with friends, made crafts, went to sleepovers. She kept
- 13:53Speaker 1: really busy with a lot of good things.
- 13:55Speaker 2: She was a.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Pretty normal child starting out until she wasn't the age
- 14:00Speaker 1: of eleven, something changed in Jasmine. She began gravitating toward
- 14:06Speaker 1: goth subculture. And this isn't a hit on goth subculture
- 14:10Speaker 1: by the way, I know quite a few goths actually
- 14:12Speaker 1: very cool, very awesome, but this is just kind of
- 14:15Speaker 1: what segued her into what she became, So not a
- 14:21Speaker 1: hit on any goths at all, just her story. So
- 14:23Speaker 1: after getting into the subculture, she was kind of drawn
- 14:26Speaker 1: to dark fashion, heavy eyeliner, and online communities where she
- 14:31Speaker 1: could shed the expectations of her quiet suburban world, and
- 14:34Speaker 1: her MySpace and VampireFreaks dot com profiles painted a very
- 14:40Speaker 1: new picture of Jasmine, one where she was older, rebellious,
- 14:44Speaker 1: fascinated with serial killers, nothing wrong with that, and just
- 14:48Speaker 1: purely immersed in fantasy. So the eleven year old at
- 14:51Speaker 1: this point would tell people that she was fifteen, and
- 14:53Speaker 1: she would post poetry about death and.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Violence and just not great stuff.
- 15:00Speaker 1: And somewhere in those digital shadows she met him.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Yes, there's a hymn.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Jeremy Steinky more like Jeremy Stinky.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Am I right?
- 15:09Speaker 1: I'm about to be Because Jeremy was twenty three years old.
- 15:14Speaker 1: He was twenty three years old about to date a
- 15:17Speaker 1: fifteen year old who was actually a almost twelve year old,
- 15:20Speaker 1: So just bad news bears. And he was reportedly beaten
- 15:25Speaker 1: through his childhood by his biological father and two of
- 15:29Speaker 1: his stepfathers, and his mother and her various partners, husbands
- 15:33Speaker 1: and boyfriends were just all alcoholics, so he had a
- 15:36Speaker 1: very bad upbringing. No excuse for dating a literal child
- 15:39Speaker 1: though he was a high school dropout who believed he
- 15:41Speaker 1: was a three hundred year old were wolf, so wasn't
- 15:47Speaker 1: wasn't all right up there in the head, wasn't all right.
- 15:49Speaker 1: And allegedly he would wear a vial of blood around
- 15:52Speaker 1: his neck and enjoyed the taste of blood as well.
- 15:55Speaker 1: So he was basically everything any girl's parents would, especially
- 16:01Speaker 1: Jasmine's parents. If that guy walked into my door when
- 16:04Speaker 1: I was eleven years old and you say, hey, dad,
- 16:07Speaker 1: here's here's Jeremy. He's twenty three years old, he's a
- 16:10Speaker 1: three hundred year werewolf year old werewolf, and he drinks blood.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Jeremy would fly hundreds of feet in the air with
- 16:18Speaker 1: the kick my dad would deliver to his ass.
- 16:21Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress.
- 16:22Speaker 1: So obviously, when they discovered Jasmine and Jeremy's relationship, they
- 16:27Speaker 1: forbade it immediately good parent award, But for Jasmine that
- 16:32Speaker 1: only fueled the fire. So it began as a pure
- 16:35Speaker 1: fascination turned into a complete obsession, and within months, the
- 16:39Speaker 1: girl who once played dress up in her childhood bedroom
- 16:42Speaker 1: would be planning the murder of her entire family. So,
- 16:47Speaker 1: at just twelve years old, Jasmine Richardson fell in love.
- 16:51Speaker 1: And this wasn't an innocent kind of love either, you know,
- 16:54Speaker 1: the kind that blossoms between school dances and whispered secrets,
- 16:58Speaker 1: little little middle school drama.
- 17:00Speaker 2: This was something much darker.
- 17:02Speaker 1: As I said before, Jeremy was twenty three years old,
- 17:05Speaker 1: which is an obvious problem for too many reasons to kale.
- 17:08Speaker 1: So they met in early two thousand and six. A
- 17:11Speaker 1: friend would introduce them, and Jeremy would groom her into
- 17:14Speaker 1: a relationship with him basically, and online they would just
- 17:17Speaker 1: build this entire fantasy world around them. They would use
- 17:21Speaker 1: platforms like neck Soopia and VampireFreaks dot Com, and they
- 17:25Speaker 1: would exchange cryptic and disturbing messages back and forth to
- 17:28Speaker 1: each other. And as mentioned before, Jasmine said that she
- 17:31Speaker 1: was fifteen years old and Jeremy uh didn't ask any
- 17:34Speaker 1: questions about that, and I honestly just don't think he cared.
- 17:37Speaker 1: But their messages would grow increasingly more intense. They would
- 17:42Speaker 1: be very romantic, violent, and even conspiratorial. So again, after
- 17:46Speaker 1: Jasmine's parents found out, they were like that shit, no,
- 17:50Speaker 1: you cannot see that guy, And then she would be like, well,
- 17:53Speaker 1: that just makes me want the more, so she would
- 17:54Speaker 1: naturally rebel. She would start sneaking out going to concerts,
- 17:58Speaker 1: and she would continue to get in trouble from her parents.
- 18:01Speaker 2: So when the barriers between.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Jasmine and Jeremy began to grow further and further because
- 18:06Speaker 1: of her parents, they began to imagine a world without
- 18:10Speaker 1: those barriers, those barriers being her parents. So I have
- 18:14Speaker 1: this plan, Jasmine wrote in one online message. It begins
- 18:17Speaker 1: with me killing them and ends with me living with you.
- 18:21Speaker 1: And shortly before the murders, they watched the film Natural
- 18:25Speaker 1: Born Killers. Natural Born Killers is a violent cult classic
- 18:29Speaker 1: about a couple in love who go on a killing spury.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Basically, they ruined.
- 18:33Speaker 1: This movie for me, and Jeremy idolized it, allegedly claiming
- 18:37Speaker 1: it is quote unquote the best love story of all time.
- 18:41Speaker 1: And he didn't want to lose Jasmine and he was
- 18:43Speaker 1: willing to kill for her. So what followed was not
- 18:46Speaker 1: just a crime of passion. It was the complete unraveling
- 18:49Speaker 1: of reality itself, guided by fantasy, fueled by obsession, and
- 18:54Speaker 1: executed by two people who believed they were completely untouchable.
- 18:58Speaker 2: One of them believed he was three.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Hundred year old werewolf for Frick's sakes. So it was
- 19:02Speaker 1: a quiet Sunday morning in the small Canadian town of
- 19:05Speaker 1: Medicine Hat when police arrived at the Richardson family household,
- 19:09Speaker 1: and inside they would find a scene so gruesome and
- 19:13Speaker 1: so unthinkable it would haunt the country for years. Three
- 19:17Speaker 1: members of the Richardson family, Mark, Deborah, and their eight
- 19:21Speaker 1: year old son Jacob was dead, completely slaughtered in their
- 19:25Speaker 1: own home, and their twelve year old daughter was completely missing.
- 19:29Speaker 2: But this wasn't a kidnapping. This was the plan.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Just hours earlier, under the cover of night, Jeremy had
- 19:36Speaker 1: entered the Richardson home through a basement window. He was
- 19:39Speaker 1: drunk and under the influence of cocaine, marijuana, and ecstasy,
- 19:43Speaker 1: but he was armed with knives and fueled by obsession.
- 19:48Speaker 1: So Deborah Richardson would be in bed and hear the
- 19:50Speaker 1: noise in the house and go to investigate, and this
- 19:53Speaker 1: is when she would encounter Jeremy. She would be startled
- 19:56Speaker 1: by him in the dark, but before she could scream
- 19:59Speaker 1: for help, he attack. He would inflict multiple stab wounds
- 20:03Speaker 1: on her and there would be multiple defensive injuries because
- 20:07Speaker 1: she was trying to fight for her life at that point,
- 20:09Speaker 1: but unfortunately, she would die in the basement. But Mark
- 20:12Speaker 1: would hear some sort of a struggle downstairs and go
- 20:14Speaker 1: down to investigate himself. And he grabbed the first thing
- 20:17Speaker 1: he could find, which was a screwdriver, but he too
- 20:20Speaker 1: was completely outmatched and unprepared, and Jeremy would stab him
- 20:24Speaker 1: repeatedly and just leave him to bleed out. And this
- 20:27Speaker 1: is all happening while Jasmine is there participating, and then
- 20:31Speaker 1: came the part that no one wants to believe, Jasmine's
- 20:34Speaker 1: eight year old little brother. To this day, both Jasmine
- 20:37Speaker 1: and Jeremy blame each other for what happened next, so
- 20:41Speaker 1: the truth is unconfirmed, but this is what we know.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Jacob was stabbed multiple times and his throat would also
- 20:48Speaker 1: be slashed, and there are some reports that mentioned he
- 20:51Speaker 1: attempted to defend himself with his toy lightsaber, which just.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Which is just.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Painstakingly heartbreaking. And they supposedly did this because they didn't
- 21:08Speaker 1: want him to live as an orphan or have the
- 21:12Speaker 1: burden of living as an orphan, so they did it as.
- 21:14Speaker 2: Some sort of fed up courtesy, which is just beyond sickening.
- 21:20Speaker 1: And a neighbor would later describe the scene as straight
- 21:23Speaker 1: out of a horror movie. And then after all of
- 21:26Speaker 1: the horrific damage that they had done in lives that
- 21:30Speaker 1: they had taken, they just up and left, and they
- 21:33Speaker 1: would go to a friend's house to attend a party,
- 21:37Speaker 1: and they would laugh, they would kiss, they bragged of
- 21:41Speaker 1: the atrocities they had just committed, and they were, according
- 21:44Speaker 1: to witnesses, celebrating, just no words. And the next morning,
- 21:48Speaker 1: Jasmine would be listed as a missing person because as
- 21:51Speaker 1: far as the authorities know, she was kidnapped and her
- 21:54Speaker 1: family was brutally murdered by some sort of unknown assailant.
- 21:58Speaker 1: But within twenty four hours, the truth, thankfully would come out,
- 22:02Speaker 1: and it would come out after recovering evidence from her
- 22:05Speaker 1: room and more evidence online, it was very clear that
- 22:08Speaker 1: she wasn't a victim.
- 22:10Speaker 2: She was now a suspect.
- 22:11Speaker 1: So Jasmine and Jeremy were tracked down and arrested in Leader, Saskatchewan.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Which was about eighty miles away.
- 22:18Speaker 1: So they were making a run for it at this point,
- 22:19Speaker 1: and they were driven by Jeremy's friend whose name was
- 22:22Speaker 1: Casey Lancaster, and she was later charged with being an
- 22:25Speaker 1: accessory for disposing of evidence, but the accessory charge was dropped,
- 22:29Speaker 1: but she pleaded guilty to an obstruction charge and she
- 22:32Speaker 1: would end up with a one year house arrest. So
- 22:35Speaker 1: Jeremy and Jasmine were now in custody, and in custody
- 22:38Speaker 1: neither would show any sort of emotion. Both were charged
- 22:42Speaker 1: with three counts of first degree murder, and in two
- 22:44Speaker 1: thousand and eight, Jeremy was convicted and sentenced to three
- 22:47Speaker 1: life sentences in prison, served consecutively, with the possibility of
- 22:51Speaker 1: parole after twenty.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Five years, which like, why why is it ever option?
- 22:56Speaker 1: You know? But Jasmine's trial was a little bit more complicated.
- 22:59Speaker 1: She was only twelve years old at the time of
- 23:01Speaker 1: the murders, after all, so this would make her the
- 23:03Speaker 1: youngest person in Canadian history to be charged with multiple homicides,
- 23:08Speaker 1: and psychologists testified that she was emotionally immature and likely
- 23:12Speaker 1: under Jeremy's influence, and she lacked the full capacity to
- 23:15Speaker 1: understand the consequences of her actions. But still, the jury
- 23:18Speaker 1: found her guilty of all three counts, and under Canadian law,
- 23:22Speaker 1: she could not be sentenced as an adult, so instead
- 23:25Speaker 1: Jasmine would perceive the max sentencing for a minor, which
- 23:29Speaker 1: was ten years made up of time in a psychiatric
- 23:32Speaker 1: institution followed by conditional supervision in the community. And her
- 23:35Speaker 1: sentencing wasn't just about punishment, it was about rehabilitation, but
- 23:39Speaker 1: the country was completely split. Some viewed her as a
- 23:43Speaker 1: child manipulated by a predator and others saw her as
- 23:47Speaker 1: just a cold blooded killer. And there are some rumors
- 23:49Speaker 1: suggesting the possibility of Jeremy actually being the victim due
- 23:53Speaker 1: to fetal alcohol effects and his during his own childhood,
- 23:56Speaker 1: which potentially brings his intelligence and suggested a bit into question.
- 24:00Speaker 1: But there's no conclusive answer to this, just an interesting
- 24:04Speaker 1: twist on this whole scenario. So the trial was over,
- 24:07Speaker 1: but the debate had only just begun.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 24:11Speaker 1: I personally think it takes a certain kind of child
- 24:15Speaker 1: to not feel anything for being responsible for your entire
- 24:19Speaker 1: family's death. Do I think a child can comprehend the
- 24:24Speaker 1: repercussions of killing their entire family. No. I think that
- 24:28Speaker 1: you're in love is a really young child, and you're,
- 24:31Speaker 1: you know, persuaded by this older guy. I think you're
- 24:34Speaker 1: willing to do anything. But I think there is a
- 24:36Speaker 1: bit of nature in there and a lot of nurture
- 24:39Speaker 1: as well. You know, I don't know, he's a twenty
- 24:41Speaker 1: three zero guy. Maybe he's not the most intelligent, but
- 24:43Speaker 1: he's still capable of killing and not asking questions. So
- 24:46Speaker 1: I think they're both equally at fault. But ooh, I
- 24:49Speaker 1: to say, you know, but they're both guilty. So clearly
- 24:51Speaker 1: majority said what I said, basically, and today you won't
- 24:55Speaker 1: find Jasmine. There's no press conferences, there's no interviews, not
- 24:59Speaker 1: a trait because Jasmine Richardson, now in her thirties, walks
- 25:04Speaker 1: completely free. She served her full ten year sentence, and
- 25:07Speaker 1: in May of twenty sixteen, that sentence ended and her
- 25:10Speaker 1: record was sealed and her name was protected and she
- 25:14Speaker 1: would be released from all court ordered conditions. So during
- 25:16Speaker 1: her rehabilitation, Jasmine reportedly enrolled in university classes at Mount
- 25:21Speaker 1: Royal University in Calgary, and those who encountered her had
- 25:24Speaker 1: no idea who she really was. She was just another
- 25:27Speaker 1: student to them, just another face in the crowd. And
- 25:29Speaker 1: now her exact whereabouts are completely undisclosed, and by law,
- 25:32Speaker 1: her identity cannot be revealed in Canadian media, shielded by
- 25:36Speaker 1: the same system that once tried her as a child.
- 25:38Speaker 1: So some believe she still lives near her old community,
- 25:42Speaker 1: but the nation remains divided to this day. To some,
- 25:44Speaker 1: Jasmine Richardson was a success story, proof that the system
- 25:48Speaker 1: can rehabilitate even the most unlikely offenders, and to others,
- 25:51Speaker 1: she's just a ghost walking free, a reminder of a
- 25:55Speaker 1: crime too dark to forget. But wherever she is now,
- 25:57Speaker 1: she herself carries her past that cannot be erased, and
- 26:02Speaker 1: that brings us to our final child, serial killer, Piaded
- 26:06Speaker 1: Martinez del Aguia. So, in the winter of nineteen sixty five,
- 26:15Speaker 1: in the quiet city of Mercia, Spain, would become home
- 26:19Speaker 1: to one of the most chilling and least understood cases
- 26:22Speaker 1: in European criminal history. And at the center of it
- 26:25Speaker 1: all was a twelve year old girl and her name
- 26:28Speaker 1: Piaded Martinez del Aguia. Born in nineteen fifty three, Piadad
- 26:33Speaker 1: was the third of ten children in a family struggling
- 26:36Speaker 1: to survive. Her father was a bricklayer and her mother
- 26:39Speaker 1: was a part time kitchen worker and odd job worker,
- 26:42Speaker 1: and they lived in El Carmen, a working class neighborhood
- 26:45Speaker 1: defined by its poverty, overcrowding and hard labor, and before
- 26:48Speaker 1: that the family had lived in the slums, basically one
- 26:52Speaker 1: step above desperation. There was no semblance of luxury, no privacy,
- 26:58Speaker 1: only noise, hunger, and the never ending demands of survival.
- 27:02Speaker 1: And while other children her age were in school, learning
- 27:05Speaker 1: to read and write. Piadad was home, she cleaned and
- 27:09Speaker 1: cooked and changed diapers. So, at twelve years old, she
- 27:12Speaker 1: was a default caretaker for her younger siblings, Jesus who
- 27:15Speaker 1: was ten, Christina who was eight, Manuela who was six,
- 27:19Speaker 1: Andres who was five, Fuonsanta who was four, and Mariano
- 27:24Speaker 1: who was two, and a baby Maria del Carman who
- 27:28Speaker 1: was only nine months old. A lot of kids, so
- 27:32Speaker 1: her two older brothers worked full time as panel beaters
- 27:35Speaker 1: at the auto shop. They would sometimes bring their work
- 27:37Speaker 1: home and require her to help clean and polish metal parts,
- 27:41Speaker 1: and they would provide her with some small bars of
- 27:43Speaker 1: chemical substance in order to do this very important to
- 27:47Speaker 1: note later, and her parents would be gone for most
- 27:50Speaker 1: of the day because they two worked, so the weight
- 27:52Speaker 1: of the household, the chaos of caring for seven younger
- 27:55Speaker 1: siblings fell squarely on her very small shoulders, and she
- 27:59Speaker 1: carried it quietly and obediently until something broke, and no
- 28:05Speaker 1: one really noticed at first. After all, she was just
- 28:08Speaker 1: a little girl, a girl who didn't go to school,
- 28:11Speaker 1: a girl who couldn't really read, a girl whose entire
- 28:14Speaker 1: world was confined to four crumbling walls, the wailing of babies,
- 28:18Speaker 1: and the suffocating pressure of poverty. But inside her, something
- 28:22Speaker 1: else was forming, not resentment, not rebellion, intent So it
- 28:27Speaker 1: began with a fever. On December fourth, nineteen sixty five,
- 28:31Speaker 1: baby Maria del Carmen, just nine months old, began convulsing violently.
- 28:37Speaker 1: She would also develop a rash and her temperature would
- 28:40Speaker 1: start to soar, and within half an hour she would
- 28:42Speaker 1: unfortunately pass away, and the family doctor arrived as soon
- 28:46Speaker 1: as possible, but it was too late, and the doctor
- 28:48Speaker 1: would say it was most likely meningitis. Death itself was
- 28:52Speaker 1: very sudden, and this wasn't unheard of, so it was
- 28:55Speaker 1: a tragedy, yes, but a very isolated one, or so
- 28:58Speaker 1: they thought, because five days later it would happen again. Mariano,
- 29:03Speaker 1: only two years old, died under nearly identical circumstances. Families
- 29:08Speaker 1: in the neighborhood began distancing themselves to protect from whatever
- 29:11Speaker 1: was occurring in the household, because everybody at this point
- 29:14Speaker 1: just thought they were sick and most likely contagious. And
- 29:17Speaker 1: then five days later, once again, when Santa, just four
- 29:21Speaker 1: years old, died just as quickly as her other siblings,
- 29:25Speaker 1: with the same symptoms, so three children within ten days,
- 29:30Speaker 1: all gone, and this time the doctor refused to sign
- 29:33Speaker 1: the death certificate. He did suspect something else, but lacked
- 29:36Speaker 1: any proof, so by the order of the local health council,
- 29:39Speaker 1: the Martinez del Aguia family brought their surviving children to
- 29:43Speaker 1: Mercy a General Hospital for evaluation, and they would stay
- 29:46Speaker 1: for several days and receive many, many tests. But in
- 29:49Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five Spain, diagnostic technology was extremely limited, so
- 29:54Speaker 1: there was no immediate answers and the hospital would find
- 29:56Speaker 1: no conclusive cause as to why those children died, so
- 30:00Speaker 1: so the family would be sent home and all of
- 30:02Speaker 1: the children in the neighborhood, including the family, would receive
- 30:05Speaker 1: a prescription of multi vitamin concentrates.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Don't think that's going to help, but the.
- 30:09Speaker 1: Hope was to make sure their immune systems were at
- 30:12Speaker 1: peak shape should there be any sort of infectious disease
- 30:16Speaker 1: going on. But within days of the family's release, it
- 30:19Speaker 1: would happen again. On January fourth, nineteen sixty six, five
- 30:23Speaker 1: year old Andres was dead after having been seemingly completely.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Okay half an hour before.
- 30:29Speaker 1: And this time there would be no assumptions and they
- 30:32Speaker 1: were more determined than ever to discover the cause. Samples
- 30:35Speaker 1: of visceral tissue from Andres and Fuincenta were sent by
- 30:39Speaker 1: pathologists to the Instituto Nacional del Salud in Madrid, and
- 30:43Speaker 1: they completely ruled out the possibility of an infectious agent,
- 30:46Speaker 1: so then they would send it over to the Instituto
- 30:49Speaker 1: Nacionale de Toxicology or the National Institute of Toxicology, and
- 30:53Speaker 1: it was there that they would find their answer, and
- 30:55Speaker 1: the culprit would be potassium cyanide and d d T.
- 31:01Speaker 1: So back in Mercia, pathologists were taking a second look
- 31:05Speaker 1: at the first two deceased children, but they still didn't
- 31:07Speaker 1: find anything. But they reportedly fed twenty one guinea pigs
- 31:11Speaker 1: and a dog with pieces of the children's organs, which is.
- 31:16Speaker 2: I don't know what I feel about that, but.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Okay, and all of the animals would die suddenly, so
- 31:22Speaker 1: they would know that the children were poisoned. And when
- 31:25Speaker 1: the police asked who was last seen with the victims,
- 31:29Speaker 1: one name came up again and again Pia dead. So
- 31:32Speaker 1: by mid January nineteen sixty six, the city of Mercia
- 31:35Speaker 1: no longer whispered about the deaths in the Martinez de
- 31:38Speaker 1: Aguia household. They shouted four dead children, no explanation and
- 31:45Speaker 1: no arrests at this point, only grief and suspicion, and
- 31:48Speaker 1: on January fourteenth, both parents andres and Antonia were arrested.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Authorities would suspect that the murders were an act of philicide,
- 31:57Speaker 1: which is the killings of one's child. Pregnant at the
- 32:01Speaker 1: time was confined to a maternity ward under supervision, and
- 32:04Speaker 1: Andreas was sent to a psychiatric facility for evaluation, and
- 32:08Speaker 1: the surviving children were split. The boys housed with their
- 32:11Speaker 1: father and the girls kept with their mother, a very
- 32:13Speaker 1: controversial move, but one made with purpose. Detectives hoped that
- 32:17Speaker 1: their killer might slip up. So by now the story
- 32:20Speaker 1: had reached national headlines, and this was very out of
- 32:24Speaker 1: the norm because in this period of time the press
- 32:26Speaker 1: was very tightly controlled and journalists just descended on Mercia,
- 32:30Speaker 1: eager to capture the story, and what they found would
- 32:33Speaker 1: completely stun everyone. The children, just weeks after burrying, four
- 32:38Speaker 1: siblings were laughing, playing and smiling, and one photographer were
- 32:42Speaker 1: called six year old Manuela, looking directly into his lens
- 32:45Speaker 1: and saying something to the effect of, quote unquote, you
- 32:48Speaker 1: want to take my picture because I'm going to die.
- 32:51Speaker 2: Next, absolutely chilling, Oh my god.
- 32:54Speaker 1: And then just like that, she went back to her
- 32:57Speaker 1: game like it was nothing. But behind the those playful scenes,
- 33:01Speaker 1: detectives were watching someone else, someone a lot quieter than
- 33:06Speaker 1: the other children, someone a lot colder, and that was Piadad.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Her affect was flat, her gaze just completely unshaken, and
- 33:15Speaker 1: she always seemed to be the last one with each
- 33:17Speaker 1: of the dead, but they still had no proof at
- 33:20Speaker 1: this point. Then on January twenty fourth, a detective had
- 33:23Speaker 1: an idea. He took twelve year old Piadad to a
- 33:26Speaker 1: local cafe, just the two of them, and he made
- 33:28Speaker 1: small talked and ordered her a glass of milk, and then,
- 33:31Speaker 1: with a sleight of hand, he pretended to spike her
- 33:33Speaker 1: drink with the same metal cleaning compound her brothers used
- 33:37Speaker 1: at work, and she noticed immediately. And after she noticed,
- 33:41Speaker 1: she would grab his wrist and she would say to him.
- 33:44Speaker 3: This, don't do that. You could seriously harm someone with
- 33:47Speaker 3: that stuff.
- 33:48Speaker 2: The detective would answer, is it harmful? Is it like
- 33:50Speaker 2: the stuff you gave your little siblings?
- 33:52Speaker 1: And at this point, per the detective's account, it was
- 33:55Speaker 1: written all over her face. But he just stared into
- 33:58Speaker 1: her eyes in silence till she spoke again. Padad would continue.
- 34:02Speaker 3: It was me who killed the four of them, the
- 34:04Speaker 3: first three by order of my mother.
- 34:05Speaker 1: And the detective would say, and the last one, Pia
- 34:08Speaker 1: Dad would say back to.
- 34:09Speaker 3: Him, I killed myself alone. I acted on my own twelve.
- 34:14Speaker 2: She's twelve. Oh my god.
- 34:17Speaker 1: So this was the moment detectives had been waiting for.
- 34:20Speaker 1: She explained her methods with chilling precision during an interrogation,
- 34:24Speaker 1: how she turned potassium chloride, cyanide, and DDT based insecticides
- 34:29Speaker 1: into tiny lethal pillets, then mix them into milk and food.
- 34:33Speaker 2: What the dude was twelve?
- 34:36Speaker 1: It's just horrifying, And each child suffered agonizing deaths, roughly
- 34:41Speaker 1: taking thirty minutes. Only Fon Santa had time to cry out,
- 34:45Speaker 1: saying quick, come here, I'm dying, and Piadad heard her
- 34:49Speaker 1: and then just walked away. So the twelve year old
- 34:52Speaker 1: girl who kept the house running while her parents worked,
- 34:55Speaker 1: who changed diapers, fed bottles, put her siblings to sleep,
- 34:59Speaker 1: murder four of her own siblings.
- 35:02Speaker 2: And these were not moments of rage. They weren't revenged,
- 35:06Speaker 2: They were.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Planned, repeated, and refined murders, basically a child behaving like
- 35:13Speaker 1: a trained assassin. So after all this, her parents were
- 35:16Speaker 1: held for a little bit longer, especially after she said
- 35:19Speaker 1: that her mom was involved in all of this, and
- 35:21Speaker 1: then her story just kept changing. In one version her
- 35:24Speaker 1: mother ordered the killings, and in another it was all
- 35:27Speaker 1: her idea, so a pathological liar as well, just very
- 35:31Speaker 1: on top. But eventually detectives concluded that was becoming more
- 35:34Speaker 1: and more obvious that Piodad just lied. So her surviving
- 35:38Speaker 1: siblings were removed from both parents' custody and placed under
- 35:41Speaker 1: child protective Services, and Andre's the father, was released in
- 35:45Speaker 1: March nineteen sixty six, and Antonia, who gave birth actually
- 35:49Speaker 1: in custody, was not released until May, and Piadad she
- 35:53Speaker 1: was brought before a juvenile court and she would be
- 35:55Speaker 1: sent to a psychiatric institution for observation before her trial.
- 35:59Speaker 2: And there she just thrived.
- 36:01Speaker 1: She laughed with nurses and befriended the staff, and psychologists
- 36:05Speaker 1: were just alarmed because she was found to have, you know,
- 36:09Speaker 1: a sound mind. She wasn't just some crazy little kid.
- 36:13Speaker 1: She knew what she was doing. She was very smart
- 36:17Speaker 1: in the scariest way, very ed kemper like if you
- 36:21Speaker 1: know who that is. If not, I'm going to be
- 36:22Speaker 1: doing a deep dive on him next because, my god,
- 36:25Speaker 1: but she reminds me of him a lot. Just extremely calculated.
- 36:29Speaker 1: And they said that she was fully aware of right
- 36:32Speaker 1: and wrong, but capable of ignoring morality when it suited her.
- 36:36Speaker 1: And by the summer of nineteen sixty six, pi Adad
- 36:38Speaker 1: was officially diagnosed as a psychopath, which you shit, and
- 36:44Speaker 1: in one of her many confessions, she summed up her
- 36:47Speaker 1: motives simply, I was tired of taking care of them.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Just cold.
- 36:51Speaker 1: It's just a colder bitch. Oh my god, it's so sickening.
- 36:55Speaker 1: But she could not be tried as an adult. Spanish
- 36:58Speaker 1: law wouldn't allow it to she was only two twelve
- 37:00Speaker 1: years old and under the age of being criminally responsible,
- 37:03Speaker 1: so instead the judged order that Piodad be committed indefinitely
- 37:07Speaker 1: to the Catholic institution called Las Obladas basically a coven,
- 37:11Speaker 1: not a prison, which is what she should have been
- 37:14Speaker 1: in my god, and it was here behind these walls
- 37:16Speaker 1: that one of the youngest serial killers in all of
- 37:19Speaker 1: history would grow up. But she didn't rubell, she didn't
- 37:22Speaker 1: lash out In fact, the nuns described her as very social.
- 37:25Speaker 1: She even took up knitting, which she devoted a significant
- 37:28Speaker 1: portion of her spare time to. So this wasn't the
- 37:31Speaker 1: behavior of a child that was racked with guilt. It
- 37:34Speaker 1: was something else entirely. She just did not care about
- 37:38Speaker 1: anything other than herself, and as years pass Pioded just
- 37:41Speaker 1: settled into the life at the Covent, and she often
- 37:43Speaker 1: would speak about her future, the possibility of moving in
- 37:46Speaker 1: with her aunt Lowly, a quiet woman who lived alone
- 37:49Speaker 1: and had no children of her own.
- 37:51Speaker 2: Thank God.
- 37:51Speaker 1: And in time Pioded would be released. And there's no
- 37:54Speaker 1: definitive answer of what happened after her time at Las Obleidas.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Some believe that she assumed a new identity, others believe
- 38:02Speaker 1: that she became a nun at Las Ableras, but she
- 38:05Speaker 1: seemingly just vanished, leaving us to wonder what became of
- 38:09Speaker 1: one of Spain's and the world's most juvenile offenders. So Amargite,
- 38:15Speaker 1: Jasmine and Piadad, three names etched into the shadows of
- 38:19Speaker 1: true crime history, all of which took the lives of others.
- 38:23Speaker 1: It's just unimaginable and leaves questions behind that society still
- 38:27Speaker 1: struggles to answer what makes a child kill? Are these
- 38:31Speaker 1: stories of nature or nurture? Are children actually born different
- 38:36Speaker 1: or broken or cold? Was the systems that they were
- 38:39Speaker 1: raised in? What failed them? What caused them to do
- 38:42Speaker 1: what they did? Amargite never knew stability, Jasmine grew up
- 38:45Speaker 1: in safety but fell under the spell of fantasy and obsession,
- 38:49Speaker 1: and Piaded was crushed under the weight of adult responsibility
- 38:52Speaker 1: long before she was old enough to read. So three children,
- 38:57Speaker 1: three psychological profiles on sadistic with no understanding of morality,
- 39:02Speaker 1: one rebellious and emotionally stunted, and one highly intelligent but
- 39:07Speaker 1: void of empathy, all of which society didn't know.
- 39:10Speaker 2: What to do with.
- 39:11Speaker 1: So the question remains, when a child takes a life,
- 39:15Speaker 1: who is held accountable the child, the family, the society
- 39:20Speaker 1: and circumstances that made them. Or maybe we just don't
- 39:24Speaker 1: have the right answer yet. I have no idea. I
- 39:26Speaker 1: don't know, but I do know that this one was
- 39:29Speaker 1: highly disturbing, and if you made it to the end,
- 39:33Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
- 39:34Speaker 2: I hope you're staying safe out there.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Let me know what other cases you guys want me
- 39:37Speaker 1: to go over down below and until next time I.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Will see your beautiful face. Okay, stay safe out there.
- 39:44Speaker 1: Bye.