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The Real Reason People Are Getting Sicker & How You Can Fix Your Health Now | Dr. Daniel Pompa · The Hannah Hammond Show

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The number one cause of lead toxicity is in utero.
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So you get mom's lead because it's normal to lose bone during
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pregnancy outcomes the lead into the baby.
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My wife had extreme high lead levels.
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She had all these hormone problems.
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We didn't know where it was coming from.
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She was her methylation was terrible.
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Long story with that is but it gets rid of toxic hormones when
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you have good methylation. When you don't, you build up
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toxic hormones. Her mother died of uterine
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cancer, had breast cancer, ended up with uterine cancer, died.
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My wife was heading down that exact same Rd. hormonally and we
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couldn't fix it and then we realized she had lead toxicity
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from her mother. My kids started having gut
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problems at young ages and I said wait a minute, let's
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measure their lead off the chart.
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They had none of their own lead exposures.
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They got it from her. The number one source of lead is
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mom. It's normal to lose bone, but
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lead is stored in the bone into in utero.
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This is where most Americans are today, right here.
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A little bit more and it overflows.
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I call it the stress bucket because this is that.
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If we overflow it, now the symptoms start and you also
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notice that just a little bit of stress.
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And if you see what's happening, I just stressed it a little and
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it overflowed. But if we can get somebody down
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here, I could stress it a lot more.
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And that's where we want to be. All right, so I'm sitting here
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with Doctor Daniel Pompa in front of me and I'm super
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excited for this conversation because it definitely hits close
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to home as far as I'm excited to hear your story.
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But I know you're a renowned expert in cellular health and
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detoxification, anti aging, the benefits of fasting.
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And I've, you know, dove into a little bit of of your research
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and I know you shared that what stemmed you getting into the
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cellular health field was your own personal story and your own
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health battles that you were facing.
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And, you know, from anxiety and brain fog and a lot of these
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symptoms that I think a lot of people in general face and we,
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you know, traditional medicine, they just treat the the
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symptoms, right. And like, here's another drug.
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Here's another drug. And I think by the time I was
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16, I was on 15 different drugs and I had no idea what was wrong
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with me. And so, yeah.
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So thank you so much for being here.
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Yeah. Glad to be.
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Here and I'm excited to, you know, share with everyone, I
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think we're we definitely have a health crisis in the world and
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traditional medicine has its place, but I don't think that
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it's a solution for many of the issues that we see so.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more. It's it's why the world right
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now is where it is. It's the health crisis has
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gotten to a point where it can't be ignored anymore.
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Here we are for such a time as this.
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Here we are. And so you shared that your
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personal story was the catalyst to your journey.
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And would you mind sharing like what your personal story was and
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how you were able to figure out why you were so sick and get
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down to the root cause and then ultimately help cure yourself?
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Well, I was a lot younger than it was back in 1999.
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And like so many people, it just started with fatigue, right?
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And you just kind of, you have a lot of reasons for that.
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I just need to rest. I just, I just, you know, two
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young kids, a lot of reasons. But then, you know, it becomes
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something that, you know, rest doesn't help.
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That's what happened. Then it becomes this weird
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anxiety. Never had that before.
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And it was, I'm not a warrior, so I knew that was very odd.
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And then it became like insomnia where I just either couldn't get
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to sleep, wake up in the middle and I couldn't get back to
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sleep. Never had that before.
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And then it was allergic to this food.
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What was, you know, I'm intolerant to this.
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What I never had. I could eat anything I wanted.
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What happened to that? And then the brain fog, right?
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It's like, I can't like what is going on.
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And that was definitely not normal.
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It wasn't like, where's my keys type of thing.
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It's like, you can't like I would read things and I have to
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read it over again. I mean, it was like never
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happened to me before. I couldn't like what what was
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going on from one day to the next.
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It was getting confusing. I you know, it's like the
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weirdest thing when people say brain fog and then the anxiety
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to it's it doesn't those words don't do it justice, but that's
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the way my life became. All right.
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So like so many people, I start, you know, you start looking for
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things, right? And you know, this and that I
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realized, OK, yeah, I have, I definitely realized I my thyroid
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wasn't working right because I even had like symptoms of my
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hair thinning. I never had that.
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My wife was like, I was blaming her for the hair in the drain.
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She's like, that's your hair. And like, I looked, I was like,
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she's right. I was like, that's really weird.
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Oh, it's my thyroid because I don't have energy.
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I, I was getting what I call skinny fat.
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I was losing muscle. Even though I was working out, I
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was definitely getting fat where I never had been.
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So that was odd. No energy, thyroid issue.
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Address that as best I could figure out went and got blood
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work done It was normal, though my blood work was normal.
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That was odd. My adrenals must be play That's
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why I can't adapt to stress. I have no energy address that
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didn't work right. So everything that I was trying
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to do might have helped a little bit even diet change.
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I already ate a good diet honestly, but I even you know I
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couldn't eat certain things. I even ate a better diet.
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They would give me some result, but not a lasting result.
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And then that led me to the answer of what it was.
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Look, I, I came across something called Mad Hatter's disease.
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Have you ever heard of that? OK, most people haven't, but
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people making felt hats, they became poisoned, literally.
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They use mercury as part of the process to attenuate mold and
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the felt hats that they were using and they became known as
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Mad Hatter's. You don't want to be a Mad
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Hatter because you know they're mad.
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I had all the symptoms. I'm like, I am this.
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So I thought maybe I had mercury toxicity.
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I went and got a blood work. That blood work where I checked
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my thyroid, everything, $5000 worth of blood work all came
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back normal, including the mercury.
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Very disappointed, but a year or so later I was working with a
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very bright endocrinologist trying to figure out my hormone
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issues that I had and he said, you know, I think you have
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mercury toxicity. I said I thought so too.
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I did a blood test came out negative wrong test.
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That would be if you had acute mercury poisoning, meaning all
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at once type of thing or everyday.
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And then I basically see I, I said OK, what tests should I do?
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And he recommend challenging out of my tissues.
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And then I did see abnormal accumulation of other heavy
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metals as well. And bottom line is I asked the
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question, what do you think I got it from?
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And he said, do you have any dental work done around the time
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this all began? And I looked back and days after
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I had dental work done is when it started.
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I just never knew. So they drilled out 2 silver
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fillings which contained 50% mercury.
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One of my good friends, actually, the dentist, and I
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still had some other metal in the mouth, which makes the
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problem worse, but it basically set my bucket overflowing,
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meaning the mercury that I was accumulating in my brain and
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other parts of my body. It made it worse and then I got
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sick and that was that. That's crazy.
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I didn't think that metal in your mouth could make you sick.
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And. Nor did I.
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Yeah, and I, I actually had a hair test done maybe two weeks
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ago and they said I have a extreme heavy metals in my body
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and. Well, you know, hair test isn't
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even a great way to look at metal either.
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Matter of fact, when we evaluate a hair test, we look at the
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mineral ratios, not even the amount of mercury or other
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metals. It's an indicator that your
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body's getting rid of it. It's actually a good sign.
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But when very toxic people get a hair test, you don't see metals.
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Matter of fact, that was one of the first autism studies where
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they looked at kids with autism and they realized that's so
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weird. They never have mercury and
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other metals in their tissues. Well, it's because their body
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just didn't get rid of it. So heavy metal, I did a urine
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test even at one point without a provocative agent and it looked
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clean. My hair test looked clean, but
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the fact was it was stored in my brain.
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Listen, there's no perfect test for heavy metals because you
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can't measure what's in the brain.
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Most people that have are very sick from heavy metals.
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It's what's in the brain and deep tissue.
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And without biopsy, you're not testing that.
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So even a test where you take a chelator, a water soluble
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chelator that grabs on and moves out through the urine, then you
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can measure it. It gives you an idea.
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But certain metals like mercury, aluminum, they don't do they?
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They're deep in the brain, and you really need a different
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method than just, you know, chelating it and testing it.
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OK. And So what what'd you do from
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there? You found out you had heavy
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metals and then what were kind of next steps for you to?
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Get there. Well, look, when you go online,
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there is so much bad information about detox you from, if you
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just talk to most practitioners doctors, you have different
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groups, right? A doctor, a, a medical doctor
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might tell you do IV chelation. Well that's a fast way to make
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yourself worse because you're using a real chelator, grabs on
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pulls a lot out, goes away. You go home 1012 hours later
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you're redistributing. That'll happen to me and I got
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much worse. So not a good method and you
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don't clear the body like that. You can use chelators, but you
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have to use them correctly. That's a whole thing that I
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teach. But the bottom line is, is that
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what you're hearing out there? And then there's people using
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cilantro, Cruella, this juice cleanse, that cleanse, this 10
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day cleanse, all of it is there's so many pitfalls.
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You know that at best they don't work at all, but at worse they
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make you worse. And that's what happened to me.
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A lot of the things I had to go through and discover and what I
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teach today, now that I've been teaching for over 20 years,
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really came out of my journey and I have to believe God showed
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it to me. Honestly, I, I always say I'm
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not smart enough. I, you know, I, I journeyed
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through it to bring it. But when you go online and you
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put in detox, Yeah, it's it's ugly.
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Yeah, and it's such a buzzword. It is such, especially today,
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because I think people are now aware that they know that toxins
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are why they're sick, toxins are why their hormones are
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disrupted, why they have brain fog, anxiety and toxic.
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I mean, it's out there now, but the problem is now, and my
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passion has become to take a message to the world.
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And by the way, when I was sick, that was given to my wife.
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That's a real message. Literally when she was on her
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knees crying out to God for an answer for me and my family.
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I have two kids then I have 5 now, but God spoke to her heart
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and said not only am I going to get him well meaning me, but
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he's going to take a message to the world.
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When she would say that to me and I would say I don't how do
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you say these things? I said I can't even get myself
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well. I was.
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It made me so angry when she would say that because for me it
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just, it was just more on my shoulders of something I already
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couldn't figure out. I was embarrassed.
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I was the doctor. I was a healthy 1, now I'm sick.
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It just pouted on top of me that I had to do one more thing so I
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would get angry. But here I am on this show, you
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know, and taking a message to the world, coaching doctors for
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20 years and everything I learned in it.
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I, I do believe God gave it to me for this, for such a time as
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this. I mean, honestly, what when I
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got sick, there was not many people dealing with that today.
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Oh my gosh. I mean, look at thyroid
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conditions. They've just skyrocketed because
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thyroid's just the that's why my thyroid was dysfunctioning.
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My blood work was normal, but my thyroid hormone wasn't able to
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get its message in the cell because something was driving
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inflammation. That something is toxins.
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No one told me that, right? So you can look at your blood
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work, even make it normal by taking hormones and go, I still
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don't feel well. That's a toxic issue.
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Nobody told me that, right? But that wasn't common that
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today this is what people are dealing with.
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Most people really identify with something's not right with my
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hormones, something that so we have a world taking people,
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taking hormones. It's not the answer.
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There's a time and a place, no doubt, but people don't feel
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well with all the symptoms that we met mentioned and all the
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thyroid condition, you know, the uprise of diabetes, weight loss
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resistance, all of it. You know, all these things that
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people are dealing with. That is a toxic issue.
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And the only reason I know what I know is because I went through
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it and that last 10 years, these numbers have just gone up to
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such a point where people are crying out for detox.
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What do I do, right? And yet the answer is not there
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so easily. And what do you think the
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biggest misconception is about detox in the way it's used
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today? Real detox is a cellular
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problem. I don't want to confuse people
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with slick biochemistry, but let's keep it as simple as we
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can. Your cells are designed to get
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rid of toxins day in, day out. We have 50 trillion of these
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things in our body, right? When you make energy in your
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cell, it's like burning wood in a fireplace, right?
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You make smoke. But if the damper is open and
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the smoke goes out, you have heat.
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That's the energy and it's that's what you want.
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But what if something closes that damper?
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What if there's certain toxins that are closing the dampers of
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your cells, shutting them down? And now when you make energy in
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your cell, which we need to feel good, think clear digest food,
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when you're making that energy, like burning the wood in the
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fireplace, that smoke is not getting out and people die from
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smoke, not flames. Your cells are dying from the
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same thing. Your cells become smothered,
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right? Just like if you took a candle
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and this and put it smothered it like that.
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It's like it dies out and the the toxins are left to be
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accumulated in the glass or your cells.
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That's what's happening. So people's cells are
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accumulating toxins at a very high rate.
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You know what else happens? The more that happens, the less
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cellular energy that that occurs that you have.
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Oh, and the less cellular energy you have means the less ability
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to get rid of those toxins that occurs.
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And so now you build up even more, and then it drives
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something called inflammation, and now it causes even more
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symptoms. Oh, and then it triggers your
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genes that we all have bad genes, but it turns those genes
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on. So now, yeah, you get the
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thyroid condition or the diabetes or whatever.
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It's the autoimmune diagnosis perhaps, or maybe you just don't
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know. Just a bunch of symptoms that
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you have and can't explain. But it's because that cell is
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accumulating toxins so that the real detox to answer your
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question is fixing up, regulating what God put in every
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one of us that that cell should be doing day in, day out to get
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rid of the toxins that it makes when it makes energy and then
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accumulates because of the amount of toxins that we're
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under from makeup, Cologne, you know, plastic drinking all of
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it, heavy metals from the air, whatever.
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But our cells are designed to get rid of that.
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That's real. Real detox is we have to fix
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what's broken. If you want to feel well, my
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saying is if you to fix, you have to fix the cell to get
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well. Real detox is a cellular issue.
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So if we can fix that, we actually fix ourselves.
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That's where real detox is. It's not so simple to just sit
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in the sauna. I'm for saunas, but you have to
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fix what's broken at the cell foot baths, 10 day cleanse, this
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cleanse, this liver cleanse. It's it's not that simple.
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It's not like that. So how do you do it?
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Yeah, that's. The process, it's so funny I,
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this is, you know, the first time I was recording something
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in this studio even before you came in, right?
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This is the first time I'm actually certifying the average
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person in this process 20 years. I teach doctors how to do this.
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I have what is called my 5 Rs. That is a road map of that.
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How do we fix that cell, right? How do we up regulate the detox
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pathways? The five Rs became a road map
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that I, I remember there's a story behind it because I was, I
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came, I was lecturing a group of doctors in California and I was
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flying back and I, I, I was excited that like this is it.
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I'm coming out of my skin right now.
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But I realized I was the only excited one in the room.
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So I either spoke over their head.
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Maybe it was too many studies, but I said, man, I, I just need
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a way of communicating this. I, I did such a poor job.
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I literally prayed. And it was moments later that
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all these things started coming to my head.
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I picked up my notebook in the five Rs was born.
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It was the road map needed to communicate this I so this is
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the first time I'm actually certifying the average person in
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these 5 Rs and how to do it. It's, it's, it's a, it is a road
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map. It's different for everybody.
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Real detox for you. There's a science and an art
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around it. But and then my Pompa program
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now is instead of just teaching doctors to do it is I've taught
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100 coaches literally the methods and we take people into
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my program and do it because it's not like it it's it's not
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like just take this box of pills that that's silly.
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It scientists get it. Doctors don't, you know, you
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have to teach people the process and then they can do it long
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enough to matter. So my passion is that message is
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spreading that. And again, so I have a
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certification program where I teach certified people in it.
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Maybe they'll be a coach, maybe they'll just use it for them and
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their family. And then I have a program that
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people can go through to get their lives back, to learn how
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to really get toxins out of their cells.
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OK. And how do people like be in
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that program and and what's the timeline and I guess cost for
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like if I want to go through the?
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Program yeah, so I mean you, you hire your own coach, right And
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we start with a core of what I would call like this is the key
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to detox, right? You up you have to up regulate
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the cell functions right as I'm explaining but then you have to
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open up downstream detoxes, docs detox pathways.
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There's a prep phase that's kind of where we prep you for There's
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a body phase and then the most important phase is a brain
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phase. All that happens in about 5
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months. That said the goal then you
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graduate with the ability to be able to do this the rest of your
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life because you're not going to ever stop getting introduced to
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chemicals. That's what's happening on the
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planet right now from your makeup, from the water that we
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drink from the food that we eat from everything that we're
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putting on and in our bodies. You know it, it is overwhelming.
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So you everyone to be healthy today.
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I know that they need to be have this understanding of what we
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need to do. Once you get the bulk out of
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your tissue, then it's much easier to periodically do this
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process to keep it moving out of the body.
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So we function normally like me. I went from that person and
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believe me, I'm just scraping the surface.
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It was worse than I'm doing my my wife were here, she'd be
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like, it was way worse than that.
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Are you kidding me? I'm making it sound easy to, you
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know, here I am now thriving, you know, but that that's the,
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the idea is to teach people the process.
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They do it long enough to matter.
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And so, you know, I mean that that is a process that we start
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with a simple cellular inflammation test and go from
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there. And because it is a little
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different for everybody at that evolution, that's why you have a
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coach because even though it starts with a core, it's very
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personalized what toxins, you know, somebody has, you know,
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you know, versus the next person.
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OK. So the toxin spray that the
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doctor gave me isn't going to be the answer.
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Yeah, not that simple. 6 sprays in the mouth twice a day for
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three. Months.
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Yeah, right. Yeah, they'll say think about
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that logically. Like come on, really.
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I mean, think about these, these toxins that we're talking about
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that accumulated from the womb and they keep accumulating to
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the tomb. Meaning there's a German study
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called the Drash study. The what it showed is, ladies,
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the number of silver fillings in your mouth, that's those silver
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amalgam fillings that made me sick.
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They contain 50% mercury. The number of fillings in mom's
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mouth is proportional to how much mercury they found in the
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baby's brains on autopsies. So that's very accurate.
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The point is, the number one cause of lead toxicity is in
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use. So you get mom's lead because
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it's normal to lose bone during pregnancy outcomes the lead into
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the baby. By the way, all of my kids
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health issues, my wife had extreme high lead levels.
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She had all these hormone problems.
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We didn't know where it was coming from.
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She was her methylation was terrible.
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Long story with that is but it gets rid of toxic hormones when
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you have good methylation when you don't you build up toxic
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hormones. Her mother died of breast or of
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uterine cancer. Had breast cancer, ended up with
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uterine cancer, died. My wife was heading down that
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exact same Rd. hormonally and we couldn't fix it and then we
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realized she had lead toxicity from her mother.
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My kids started having gut problems at young ages and I
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said wait a minute, let's measure their lead off the
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chart. They had none of their own lead
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exposures. They got it from her.
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The number one source of lead is mom.
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It's normal to lose bone, but lead is stored in the bone into
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in utero. The point is, is that this is
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where we start our detox. This is where we start toxifying
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our lives. And imagine we all have a
21:36
bucket. Can they see this?
21:37
Are we? They are here.
21:39
OK, This is a great example. I hope you can see the water
21:43
line. It's right.
21:43
Here, yeah, probably hold it closer to your face.
21:45
OK, right here. Can you see?
21:47
Yeah. Can they see the water line?
21:48
OK, here it is. Now this is where most Americans
21:52
are today, right here, a little bit more and it overflows,
21:57
right? And we do that, right, a little
21:58
bit more stress. And by the way, I call it the
22:00
stress bucket because fact is, is that physical, chemical or
22:04
emotional stress, the body doesn't know the difference.
22:06
It fills this bucket. Now genetically, some of us are
22:09
blessed and have bigger buckets and some have smaller buckets,
22:12
right? But fact is, is that if we
22:14
overflow it, now the symptoms start.
22:16
And you also notice that just a little bit of stress.
22:19
And if you see what's happening, I just stressed it a little and
22:22
it overflowed. But if we can get somebody down
22:25
here, I could stress it a lot more.
22:28
And that's where we want to be. So but this starts filling in
22:31
utero and it starts filling to the time we get here, maybe in
22:35
our 30s, maybe 20s, maybe whatever, right?
22:38
Today it's happening in kids. They're filling up their buckets
22:41
much sooner. But the fact is, is that 10 day
22:44
cleanse or liver cleanse or the spray for whatever it really,
22:48
it's going to empty that see scientists go, no, it's
22:51
accumulated in the tissue. If it all came out that fast,
22:54
you'd be dead #1 So it doesn't happen like that, right?
22:58
And it doesn't happen with getting your cell without
23:01
getting your cells doing it. And the more toxicity each
23:05
generation has, the more toxic the tissues are of the children,
23:09
which is. What we're seeing and here we
23:10
are, we have autoimmune happening in your generation for
23:15
the first time ever. We have cancer in kids, right?
23:18
What what is 67% increase? I mean in the, in the last, you
23:24
know, 50 years, I mean that these are big numbers.
23:27
I mean, 70% increase, this isn't normal, but it's become normal.
23:31
And then your generation for the first time, it's, it's hard to,
23:35
most people are on medications just coping, but it's become so
23:38
normal to your generation to use stimulants just to get through a
23:41
day, right? My generation didn't do that.
23:44
And there was nobody in my classroom that was on these
23:48
medications. I'm 60 years old.
23:50
So, you know, we, we might have had one person that had a food
23:53
allergy in our whole school. There wasn't any in the
23:56
classroom today. I mean it's it's half the
23:59
classroom has food out maybe more for all I know.
24:02
But they're also on anti anxiety medications and different
24:05
stimulants for their brain. This is the norm.
24:08
You think maybe it's the toxins? Yes, it's not just so simple.
24:12
We're eating more processed food.
24:13
No, the food is a a carrier of the the toxins that are really
24:18
driving the problem. Our kids buckets are full and
24:21
what are we going to do about it?
24:23
You know, Bobby Kennedy, Robert Kennedy Junior, you know he is
24:27
he, you know, make America healthy again.
24:29
He knows it's the toxins, right? Yes, processed food is part of
24:33
it, but it's the toxins that is making the difference.
24:36
Look, if we look at the toxins that we're allowed here in the
24:39
United States versus even Europe, other countries, it's
24:42
amazing what they are, have outlawed and we're still
24:46
ingesting. And when you look at our health
24:47
statistics compared to those every year, it's changing
24:50
drastically. The toxins are the problem.
24:53
Yeah. And so, like, is there a role
25:00
that mental and emotional health plays in cellular detox?
25:03
Because it's something I'm always really curious about.
25:06
A bigger role than you can imagine.
25:09
And when we look at everything that the younger generation is
25:14
going through that older generations didn't, it, it is
25:17
all being driven by these toxins.
25:19
If you look at how these toxins are accumulating in the brain,
25:22
driving inflammation, it's no wonder people need drugs to
25:27
exist. If you look at the connection of
25:29
certain toxins with just anxiety disorder, let alone social
25:33
disorders, let alone depression, mercury is a number one.
25:37
I, one of the first signs is depression.
25:39
I was so depressed that I didn't want to live.
25:43
And that's when I said I'm making it sound easier.
25:45
My wife would tell you there was times she was hiding the knives
25:48
because I just wanted to take my life.
25:49
I never planned it, but there was times where it was easier
25:52
for me to be dead than to live like that.
25:54
And by the way, my fear was never dying.
25:57
My fear was living life like it was right and I didn't I didn't
26:01
have people just weren't throwing around anti anxiety
26:05
meds that you know, but arguably I could have landed on one.
26:09
And it works in the short term. And I'm not telling anyone to
26:13
take a medication or not. But the fact is, is that it's
26:16
not getting to the real cause of why most people can't even get
26:21
their brain to feel normal. And I I'm over generalizing how
26:26
people feel but that's the problem.
26:29
Yeah, 'cause I know, I mean, for me, my gut issues are so bad.
26:33
That's like every and not, it's not even just healthy food
26:36
versus unhealthy food. It's like very so many foods.
26:39
I mean, pretty much the only thing that doesn't make me feel
26:41
sick is most meat and a handful of vegetables and fruits, but
26:46
they're still like apples. Inflamed meat.
26:48
And by the way, that that's why the carnivore diet is so popular
26:51
now where people just eat meat because they're reacting to the
26:55
lectins and the phytates and vegetables and things that
26:58
people never reacted to. Now they are why?
27:00
Because their gut is wide open. And we didn't even explain that
27:04
toxins affect this brain directly where they accumulate
27:07
in the brain and affect how it works.
27:10
But the second brain is your gut.
27:12
Toxins affect that. And this gut, this brain, their
27:15
gut and this brain, when that's communicating and all working,
27:19
it's great. But a lot of how this is works,
27:21
about how this gut works. So toxins have decimated the gut
27:25
health, what we call the microbiome of the population.
27:29
You need certain bacteria to make certain brain chemicals
27:34
like serotonin, dopamine, so you just feel normal.
27:37
Oh, and when you have certain bacteria that have been
27:39
destroyed by certain toxins, you don't make those.
27:42
So what we're trying to do is give people those chemicals.
27:44
Doesn't work that easy because there's a communication between
27:48
these two brains and when that works, all is well.
27:51
But if you can't make enough of those brain chemicals because
27:54
you don't have enough bacteria, because toxins have wrecked it,
27:57
good luck, right? We have to get to the real cause
28:01
of why, right? Holding up the bucket again, are
28:03
the real cause of why people have gut problems, have brain
28:07
problems. It's the toxins, absolutely.
28:11
And then the food allergies because the the toxins cause
28:15
inflammation of the gut barrier and now it opens up.
28:19
It's meant to open up for certain things to move in and
28:21
out like certain immune cells and nutrition, but now it's left
28:26
open and now undigested proteins from food, dairy, whatever it
28:31
is, go across that barrier into the bloodstream where now you
28:35
make antibodies. So now when you eat it again, it
28:37
crosses again. Now you have this antibody
28:39
reaction where inflammation throughout your body, you feel
28:42
horrible What is going on? And you've narrowed it down to I
28:45
can't eat this, I can only eat this without reacting.
28:49
Well, that's where we are as a country.
28:52
And the the answer isn't another diet.
28:54
It's not. The answer is get rid of the
28:56
cause of what's creating this leaky gut, an immune challenge
29:01
and dealing with that then. And sometimes we have to avoid
29:04
foods, right? Because you have to function.
29:06
But if you're not working upstream from the real problem,
29:10
we're never going to go well. A great example.
29:12
Everyone's trying to take different probiotics to fix
29:14
their gut. It's not so simple if you just
29:17
bought a brand new piece of property on a river, beautiful
29:21
property, but you walk down and you realize there's all these
29:23
dead fish and algae and plants. You spend a lot of money
29:26
repopulating that, putting fish in the water, stocking it again.
29:31
And you realize in three months it's all dead again.
29:33
So you spend even more money, do a better job, hire a better
29:36
company. And then finally, your neighbor
29:38
comes over and says, hey, George, you might want to save
29:41
your money. 20 miles up the river, they're dumping mercury
29:44
and lead or whatever other toxin into the water.
29:48
You know, how are you going to repopulate that?
29:51
You're not until you get rid of the factory upstream, right?
29:53
So we better deal with what's upstream if we're going to fix
29:56
the gut problem and even an alternative medicine.
29:59
I fear we're not doing that. I fear we're ignoring the big
30:03
thing that people are tripping over, and that is the amount of
30:06
toxins. So number one, we have to
30:08
eliminate what's going into our bodies.
30:11
And that's my social media page, right?
30:13
It's like stop doing this, stop using this, stop, right?
30:16
It's filled with that. But we also then have to deal
30:19
with what is accumulated. And that's my certification of
30:22
my program. And you talk a lot about
30:26
fasting. It's something that you're
30:27
passionate about. And we hear a lot of mixed
30:30
signals on fasting. And I have a love hate
30:34
relationship with fat. You know, we hear, I think it's
30:36
72 hours of fasting, your body goes into autophagy where it can
30:39
stop focusing on digesting food and it can start healing cells,
30:43
right. And I, I've heard statistics,
30:45
wild statistics about like doing a seven day fast once a year can
30:49
almost, almost eliminate your likelihood of getting cancer and
30:53
these types of things. And then other people on the
30:57
argument will say it slows down your metabolism.
30:59
And, and maybe like someone for me, I've struggled a lot with
31:03
binge eating, like fast binge, fast binge.
31:06
And so it can be a little bit mentally difficult for me
31:09
because my brain goes into, I want to eat everything in the
31:11
world after I came off a fast. And, and then I, you know, kind
31:14
of want to fast to compensate for overeating and all these
31:17
things. So like can you share a little
31:19
bit about the the benefits and potential setbacks of fasting
31:22
and how to approach that for positive?
31:25
Here's The funny thing, everything you said is correct,
31:27
but now let's put it in context because fasting is a strategy
31:32
I've I learned. I started studying fasting in
31:34
the 90s and I was really into fasting when nobody was.
31:38
Now it's in vogue. But now what I see is a lot of
31:42
people fasting incorrectly. So everything you said is
31:45
actually true. But that said, fasting is
31:48
probably one of the most amazing tools that I've ever seen to
31:52
harness innate intelligence, meaning your body has an innate
31:55
inborn ability to heal itself. And fasting is a way to harness
31:59
that. But people are doing it wrong.
32:01
So, and because it's very popular, you can see that people
32:05
are fasting too much and not understanding that the feast is
32:10
as important as the fast, meaning we can't just stay in
32:13
these fasted states. OK, so let let's take some
32:16
things off the table for confusion's sake.
32:19
OK, So there's extended fast where we're talking about right
32:23
beyond the day, right where it's three days, five days, 10/20/30.
32:28
OK, so those are extended fast and there's benefit to those.
32:32
Are there some people who shouldn't do that?
32:34
Absolutely. We can talk about that.
32:36
Then there is daily intermittent fasting where people fast for 15
32:41
hours, 18 hours, maybe one day, right?
32:44
So or eat 2 meals a day. Maybe they eat one meal a day,
32:47
right? So that's become very popular.
32:50
So just be clear. Intermittent fasting is, you
32:53
know, fasting in it within a day and then extended fasting is
32:57
beyond. Both have benefits.
32:59
Let's talk about the intermittent fasting first
33:02
because this is where it's gotten really popular.
33:05
It works for people for weight loss.
33:09
They eat less by eating less often, and that is a better way
33:14
to do it because it will hold your metabolism better, meaning
33:17
that if you just calorically restrict, we all know this, that
33:20
it doesn't work long term. You'll lose weight in the
33:23
beginning and then you have to restrict, restrict, restrict to
33:26
to your practically nothing and you're getting skinny fat.
33:29
Your body's eating its muscle because your metabolism is
33:32
slowed down and it's gaining fat in all the wrong places.
33:35
Caloric restriction long term does not work.
33:37
But if you eat just one meal a day or maybe two, OK, that works
33:42
better because the body doesn't think necessarily it's starving
33:45
as quick. But now what we're finding is
33:47
people just eating one meal a day or two, they're getting more
33:51
and more restrictive and their body still goes, I'm starving.
33:55
And so now these people, you can tell who they are when they're
33:57
doing too much daily intermittent fasting.
33:59
So one of the things that I developed is my 421 where you do
34:04
basically one day a week, you always feast.
34:08
Some people need 2, some people need 3, where you eat a healthy
34:12
amount of healthy carbohydrates because they're too low carb,
34:16
they're too fasted. And by putting in that feast
34:18
day, it reminds the body it's not starving.
34:21
OK, so that's what people that are fasting now need to hear,
34:25
that you have to feast. So when you look at these
34:28
ancient tribes who do this type of eating, even fasting, eating
34:32
one meal, but they have days where they're feasting.
34:35
And so people aren't feasting. And if they're feasting, they're
34:38
probably feasting on junk. You don't want to do that
34:40
either. Yeah, I like, I like my cheat
34:42
day actually. But when I was in the best shape
34:44
of my life and felt the best, I was like clean, you know,
34:49
organic pasta, raised meat and vegetable during the week and
34:52
then in a deficit, a deficit and working out hard every day.
34:56
And then on the every Saturday I would do like my hardest workout
35:00
in the morning and then I would have a feast day.
35:02
It's good. It, you know, was.
35:04
See, and that works so you can deficit, but you have to remind
35:09
the body it's not starving. So imagine you buy this piece
35:12
of, or let's just say you live in the middle of Alaska, right?
35:16
And every winter, you know how much wood it takes you to get
35:18
through the winter. This winter in particular is the
35:23
worst winter ever. And you run or you're running,
35:26
you notice you're running out of wood sooner than you did before.
35:29
So what are you going to do? You're going to burn less wood.
35:32
And instead of your cabin being at, you know, 70°, you're going
35:36
to be happy at 50 to 55 to save your life.
35:39
So you make it through the winter with the amount of wood
35:40
you have, right? So think of the wood as the
35:43
energy that you have, your metabolism.
35:46
And so now you're burning less because you're trying to get
35:49
through a cold winter because you don't want to freeze to
35:52
death. But your friend comes over and
35:54
says, oh, my gosh, I have so much wood.
35:56
Let me just give you more. OK.
35:57
And he dumps a lot of wood. What are you going to do now?
35:59
You're going to start burning more of it.
36:01
Bring it back up to 70. Well, that's exactly what your
36:04
body does when you give it. Give it a feast day.
36:07
So you go, Oh my gosh, I don't have to starve anymore.
36:09
I'm not going to burn less wood, right?
36:11
I'm going to be able to burn my fat now, no problem.
36:15
Because see, when your body thinks it's starving, just like
36:17
the guy in the middle of Alaska, it's going to hold on to its
36:20
fat. In other words, it's not going
36:21
to burn its wood. It's going to hold on to it and
36:24
it'll eat your muscle. And now your metabolism is
36:26
getting worse and worse because your body is now in a starvation
36:29
mode. That's where caloric restriction
36:31
ends. But if you keep reminded in
36:34
feast, you know, and again, it doesn't have to be the the Jelly
36:37
doughnut some, you know, when you feast, you can do healthy
36:40
carbs and but you have to make sure it knows that it's not
36:46
going to starve, you know, and then it'll keep its metabolism
36:49
up. Some people need three of those
36:52
a week, some people one right. So but you have to remind the
36:55
body it's not starving. And so for intermittent fasting
36:59
versus extended fasting, are are there still the cellular
37:03
toxicity and detoxification benefits?
37:06
People that are toxic have trouble what we call fat
37:12
adapting. OK follow me.
37:14
Your cells can only use two things for energy, sugar or fat.
37:18
Healthy people have the ability to use one or the other.
37:21
OK, so let's say that I'm I didn't eat today, which I
37:25
haven't yet actually my body will burn fat for an energy
37:30
source. Toxic people have trouble making
37:33
that transition into fat burning, so their cells are
37:37
stuck because toxins affect where we burn energy in the
37:41
mitochondria. They're stuck as sugar burners
37:45
with the inability to use fat very efficiently.
37:48
So now it has two choices. It could give you a craving and
37:52
say, Hannah, eat that bread and you listen and eat and go, OK, I
37:57
feel better. My brain got what it wanted.
37:59
Or you're not. It knows it.
38:01
It's not going to win with you. So it taps into its muscle and
38:05
it takes muscle and makes sugar from it's called
38:07
gluconeogenesis. So now you're burning muscle
38:10
long term, you feel OK, you're barely eating, but you're going,
38:15
I have plenty of energy because you're using your muscle and
38:17
your tissues and you're becoming in this catabolic state, going
38:22
less and less metabolism. And by the way, this is where
38:25
all the cheap drugs are doing to people too, semi glutide.
38:29
All it's doing is putting people in a catabolic state.
38:31
They're losing cartilage, they're losing muscle and their
38:33
metabolism is going down to one day where it doesn't work
38:36
anymore. But remember, your cells it what
38:39
should happen is a healthy person that's not toxic has the
38:43
ability to use fat as energy. So when I'm not eating, my
38:46
body's using its fat and it all works great.
38:49
It stays away from its muscle. My metabolism sets up.
38:52
But if I stay in that deficiency too long, then I'm going to end
38:55
up just like this person, right? So we have to remind it it's not
38:58
starving. And you know, feasting is, is
39:00
important as the fast, but you understand that shift from, you
39:05
know, being, we call it metabolically flexible to fat
39:07
burning when you're not eating that breaks in toxic people.
39:11
So what what I explained to people is the real reason we
39:14
have weight loss resistance, meaning you can't lose weight
39:17
despite diet. I did all this, I did it all.
39:20
It's because it's it's a hormone problem caused by toxicity.
39:24
That's the big issue. That's why people are like, I
39:27
don't have enough energy. They get skinny fat.
39:29
And we see this generation of, you know, people struggling with
39:33
this, Yeah, reaching for drugs. Do you questions I can ask you,
39:38
but do you do you have to be do it following like a keto type
39:42
diet to to make that transition easier or if you're healthy,
39:45
your body can automatically make that transition?
39:48
I I teach something called diet variation.
39:51
So I may be the only one in this space that preaches this Mindy
39:56
Paltz, who is one of my students.
39:57
She's written several books on fasting Fast like a Girl but in
40:02
other ones that she's written. But I believe that switching
40:08
diets is key. Every ancient culture never
40:12
stayed in one diet. They were forced to switch
40:14
diets. The problem today is.
40:17
We are able to stay in one diet. So therefore you have your keto
40:23
people, you have your low carb people, you have your high
40:25
protein people, you have your plant based people, you have
40:28
your vegans, vegetarians, and I make an argument for all of
40:31
those diets. I just did that.
40:33
What I taped here before you came in, I showed the science on
40:38
how staying in one diet, any diet too long causes bad, causes
40:43
problems. Staying in a plant based diet
40:44
too long, you start reacting to lectins in these plant toxins.
40:48
Staying in keto causes something arise in something called that
40:51
your body stores up this nasty free radical called 4
40:56
hydroxyenolone and it'll build that up and they'll say staying
40:59
in carnivore keto too long causes cancer.
41:01
You're right. If you stay in it, you'll build
41:02
it up too long. You can't stay in it but for
41:05
short periods. Keto diets, carnivore, every
41:08
ancient culture moved in and out of these diets and they're,
41:11
they're absolutely important. They moved in and out of higher
41:13
healthy carbohydrate diets. They moved in and out.
41:16
So I believe and what I teach doctors is switch diets and how
41:19
to successfully do that. And I call it feast famine
41:22
cycling. And but anyway, so yeah, I I
41:25
think that we have to understand that there is a benefit to
41:28
improving our gut microbiome by using diet rotation, switching
41:33
diets. That's hard for people because
41:35
they get used to these safety foods.
41:37
So we have to show people how to do it slowly, but we need to do
41:41
it. Yeah, I actually just recently
41:43
heard that from the Ultimate Nutrition Bible, some book I
41:46
read on these bodybuilders. And I guess that was back in the
41:50
day, I don't know, Arnold Schwarzenegger or something was
41:53
like all carnivore, all carnivore and then would switch
41:56
to all plant based and was able to maximize lean, you know,
42:00
muscle. And things like that.
42:01
It's so funny you said that because I, I didn't read that,
42:04
but I even in the talk that I did before this, I said the
42:07
bodybuilders figured it out even on the the feast days.
42:11
So what do they do before a competition?
42:14
They absolutely feast. They heat high, super high
42:18
carbohydrates. Most of them just eat pizza,
42:20
probably pasta, but they eat high carbohydrates to go into
42:24
the competition the next day leaner, more vascular and more
42:28
pumped. And that's what feast days do,
42:31
right? It's like they just fire up that
42:32
metabolic engine again. So bodybuilders learn that.
42:36
But also, yeah, they learned that diet rotation that you
42:38
can't stay in this, you know, always in this high metabolic
42:42
diet. You know, the rotation really is
42:45
the key. Yeah.
42:46
So and your body, I think from what I'm hearing from you and,
42:50
and what I've heard from the research I've been trying to do
42:54
on my health journey is that as much variability as you can do
42:58
in the healthy way to avoid homeostasis or homeostasis is
43:02
the best. Like the diet rotation, like the
43:04
intermittent fasting or feast versus fast and all these
43:07
things. Because otherwise the body is so
43:09
good at adapting and too much of any good thing good thing would
43:13
be bad. You just tapped into a premise
43:16
that I teach every doctor to understand and and personal
43:20
that's willing to listen. Hormesis.
43:23
Hormesis is a premise that'll change your life if you
43:26
understand it and apply it not just to diet, but to exercise or
43:30
just about anything in your life.
43:32
Even this cold bath revolution that we're understanding.
43:35
You have to understand this principle to really maximize
43:38
saunas, cold baths, diets, exercise.
43:41
Here it is, the premises is if we stress a biological system
43:46
like us and we adapt, we get stronger, faster, smarter, all
43:51
the benefits. If we stress a biological
43:53
system, if we don't adapt, we get weaker, slower, Dumber, more
43:57
sick, less unhealthy, you name it.
44:00
So the key is if we don't stress the system, we don't get
44:04
stronger, better, faster, smarter, so we have to stress
44:06
the system. The question is, is how do we do
44:09
that without going overboard? If you think about exercise,
44:13
it's the easiest to understand. So when you first start going to
44:17
the gym, you get results. It's different, it's a stress.
44:21
If you keep doing that same exercise that you started with,
44:23
you will no longer get results. It will start to actually go in
44:27
a diminishing fashion of results.
44:29
So therefore then you hire a trainer because you're
44:32
frustrated you're not getting results anymore.
44:34
First thing that they do is come in and they start changing the
44:38
stress. They do more of this less of
44:40
this does it up the reps, up the weight, up the you know, and
44:43
they keep making those changes. The reason because they've been
44:47
educated on this premise that if you don't keep changing the
44:50
stress, hence diet variation, right, or all these things we're
44:53
talking about, then it won't be perceived as a stress.
44:56
You will not get stronger. Oh, and then they're telling you
44:59
to do all these things so you adapt to the exercise because if
45:01
you don't adapt and you do too much, then you get weaker, not
45:04
stronger. So exercise variation has been
45:08
known for a lot of many, many years.
45:10
Diet variation does the same thing when we switch, when we
45:15
feast, when we famine, when we fast, when we switch diets.
45:18
All of that is creating the same hormone optimization is that we
45:22
see when we change our exercise, we need to change diet to even
45:27
cause more diversity in our microbiome.
45:29
That means create more good guys that help our brain work, that
45:33
help our immune system work. You don't do it by taking pills.
45:36
We do it by stressing it by changing diets or feast famine.
45:40
So we're doing the same strategy now.
45:42
Let me just bring it home with the ice bath thing that's so
45:45
popular right now. Most people are violating
45:48
hormesis and they're not getting the positive reaction that they
45:51
really want long term. When they first do it, it works.
45:56
Their body adapts, it thinks it's going to die.
45:58
It upregulates something called nerepinephrine, which up
46:01
regulates growth hormone and they feel amazing and they de
46:04
inflamed. But then it starts not working
46:07
because what happens is is the body starts not adapting because
46:11
they're doing too much time. They're doing 3 minutes because
46:13
they saw Ben Greenfield do 3 minutes right or 5 minutes worse
46:17
yet. And then the body starts not
46:20
adapting to that. And when it doesn't adapt, it
46:23
gets weaker, more inflammation, everything more, more hormone
46:27
issues. And you start going, gosh, I'm
46:29
tired. See.
46:30
Because often times you don't know that it's the next day or
46:33
that it affected your deep sleep that night.
46:36
It's showing you that it didn't adapt, that you didn't adapt to
46:39
the stress. There was a study done showing
46:42
that 10 minute cold showers worked better than the longer 3
46:45
minute ice bath. No, it's because they were
46:47
taking average people that 10 minute shower or it was 10
46:52
seconds of cold. I think it actually, yeah, 10
46:54
seconds of cold worked better because they were adapting to
46:57
that stress. So it looked like it was better,
47:01
but it was better because these people couldn't adapt to three
47:03
minutes. So the point is, is people are
47:05
doing too much. They're not adapting to the cold
47:09
and it's working against them, not for.
47:11
Them that makes a lot of sense because I, I mean, I think our
47:14
society and this culture in America is always rewards for
47:19
more, right? Like, oh, I did 5 minutes.
47:21
I now I'm going to do 7 minutes. Now I'm going to do 10 minutes.
47:23
And I got up to the point where I was doing 25 minutes in the
47:26
sauna and then 8 minutes in the cold plunge and cycling that for
47:30
like 45 minutes and I would be sick.
47:32
I would fit like I would be sick for three days.
47:35
And I'm like, how is this healthy?
47:36
And then I could quit all together.
47:38
No, exactly. And, and again, I'm not against
47:40
cold baths. I, I'm, I'm not against saunas.
47:42
I'm against people doing too much of it and not adapting.
47:45
And if you're already challenged, these people should
47:48
be doing way less time in a cold bath.
47:50
This is the people that should be doing 10 seconds and going OK
47:54
there, now you know, I got my body to react right, but you
47:57
have to the question I always get is, well, how do I know?
48:00
You have to evaluate how you feel, not right away.
48:03
We all feel good when we come out of a cold bath, adrenaline
48:06
goes up, right? It's like we all feel good.
48:08
It's how did you sleep that night?
48:09
You can use like aura rings or different things because if your
48:12
HRV is going down, you're not adapting.
48:15
And it may, right. I've challenged people to see
48:17
where your adaptation is. It might surprise you.
48:20
And then how do you feel the next day?
48:22
You know you waking up sluggish, you know, because you may be
48:24
doing too much. OK, that's good because I wear a
48:27
woop band and my or rings out in order, but so that's interesting
48:31
to know. So the next day.
48:33
So like if I cold plunge or son or do some sort of testing
48:36
today, my HIV the next day that I look at what it was.
48:39
Yeah, see what it was that night.
48:40
See how you slept. Because if you don't adapt, it
48:44
will. Something's going to to be
48:46
affected. Your deep sleep, your REM sleep,
48:48
your sleep in general. Yeah.
48:49
OK. So what do you think are the
48:53
trends in health and Wellness? Like where, where do you think
48:57
the future is leading in, in health and Wellness?
48:59
And is there any like trends that you're excited about or any
49:02
breakthroughs that are going on that you're excited about or?
49:04
Let's talk about some trends that I'm, I'm not thrilled
49:07
about. You know, a lot of the genetic
49:09
testing is very in vogue right now and I think it's cool and I,
49:12
you know, it gives ideas, but that's, it's more complicated
49:17
than people think. Epigenetics, meaning your body
49:21
has the ability to go around a lot of these snips, right?
49:25
And your body has the ability. It's it's our environment, it's
49:28
our epigenome above the genome is really what causes most
49:32
illnesses. Today we're looking at these
49:34
little genetic snips and saying, oh, you should be this or you
49:39
have trouble detoxing or it. It's way too general.
49:42
It gives ideas and it's if it were only so simple to be able
49:46
to tell you what to eat based on your genetic snips or what you
49:49
should take or not take. It's not every year we discover
49:52
new snips that go around other SNPs.
49:56
Oh, you have this, but look, you have this and this that kind of
49:58
counteract that. Again, it ain't intelligence.
50:01
It's it's not as simple as people are making it.
50:03
So I'm not excited about that. A lot of the microbiome testing,
50:08
gut testing is the same. I think we thought it would be
50:11
like we could study this and change your diet.
50:12
We realized that it changes so rapidly, your microbiome that
50:17
the one thing that's very consistent is looking at people
50:20
diversity. The more diverse someone's
50:22
bacteria in their gut is, the healthier they are, the less
50:26
diversity, the less healthy they are.
50:28
That holds true and it's very accurate to measure that.
50:31
So I like that. But I think the biohacking craze
50:36
is focusing on the minors and ignoring the majors.
50:41
I love them. I mean, I have red light.
50:43
I have, you know, I do all these things.
50:45
I love it, but I recognize it that it's the minors.
50:49
None of those things got my life back.
50:51
None of them. What got my life back was
50:53
getting to the big cause of why people are so sick.
50:56
The majors are the toxins that we're bringing in our body
51:00
through our food and water. Yes, you know that.
51:03
These are the majors that people need to realize.
51:06
And but we love the little miners.
51:08
We love the little bio hacks. And they're fine if you don't
51:11
ignore the majors. Yeah.
51:13
And that's what's what's fun, right?
51:15
People don't want to, I guess the cellular health, it's not,
51:18
it's more abstract and people just want like a quick fix like
51:22
me. I'm like how do I fix it today?
51:24
So it runs in like, then it's the next red light, right?
51:27
Yeah, I'm not against red lights.
51:29
I love red lights. But the point is, is it's it's
51:31
not like going to get you fix you, right?
51:34
It can be part of your journey. But you know, but people are
51:36
looking for that one little miracle thing, right?
51:39
Instead of wait a minute, hold on, let's get our cells working
51:42
and let's get the toxins is out of our brain and our deep
51:45
tissue. Yeah, that sounds really boring
51:46
and it sounds like something that I have to commit to.
51:49
Yeah, I know. Except if I could just buy that
51:51
and take that, and that's great. Yeah, the easy, easy pill.
51:55
Yeah, but what are your take, What is your take on the GLP
51:59
ones, the semi glutide, the tirzepatide and this new one
52:03
that I just bought? Yeah, the refituichide or
52:07
whatever. It's called I look at you and
52:08
go, why would you buy that? You don't need that.
52:11
OK. So yeah.
52:14
Tell my therapist that. Yeah, I was back around when
52:19
everyone was into the, gosh, what was it the the GHB, right?
52:25
It was the, it was the weight loss thing that basically it
52:29
allowed you to go on a low calorie diet and not burn
52:32
muscle. So low calorie diets with this
52:36
was the IT was everywhere, right?
52:38
And I kept saying, hey, long term, this is a bad idea.
52:40
What happens when you stop this GHB GB?
52:44
I'm dyslexic so I flip 3 letters all the time in my brain.
52:47
But anyways, it was all the rage and everything that I said was
52:51
going to happen happened. It's everyone that stopped.
52:54
It got so hormonally wrecked like three years on it.
52:58
It was like their hormones was just getting worse and worse and
53:03
it ended very badly. Now this is what we're going to
53:07
see with this right? It's, we know that it creates
53:12
this catabolic effect that not only are you losing fat because
53:16
doesn't work. Yeah, it works, but you're
53:18
losing cartilage that supports our joints.
53:21
You're losing muscle. There's something called Ozempic
53:24
butt for a reason, because the first area that you notice it is
53:28
the big muscles. You lose your butt.
53:31
It's like, hey, I look wonderful, but I lost my butt.
53:34
So because you're losing muscle and that's eventually going to
53:39
lower metabolism and that's eventually going to end very
53:42
badly. And when you do stop it now it
53:45
ends very badly because now you're gaining fat again and now
53:49
you have no muscle and your metabolism slow.
53:51
And I know people are micro dosing at taking lower amounts
53:55
of it. OK, I just argue it'll take
53:57
longer. I get also that these receptors
54:01
are throughout your body and when you up this hormone and
54:07
activate some of these receptors, people go, hey, I
54:10
feel better and this is better and I get that.
54:13
But there's ways to do that naturally.
54:15
A lot of that's coming from the bad microbiome, the gut.
54:18
There's certain bacterias that produce that hormone, the GLP
54:22
one that you know that is produced by certain bacteria in
54:24
the butt, in the butt, in the gut back to the the Ozempic
54:29
butt. But so you can take one of which
54:32
is called acrimensia, you can buy it now.
54:35
There's a company pendulum that sells it, find it on Amazon.
54:38
But that actually helps people lose weight because it actually
54:42
naturally stimulates GLP 1. So it doesn't over produce it.
54:45
It's just getting your gut to do what it does.
54:47
If you're lacking that bacteria and others, you could not
54:50
produce enough of it. And that's why when people start
54:52
taking it, they feel better. But it's long term, it's a lose.
54:56
Yeah, that happened. I mean, I I'm one of the quick
54:59
fix Americans that, you know, always wants to be skinnier and
55:02
happier and hyper, more hyper and more productive and more
55:05
well old things, right. But I took semi glutide and I
55:09
was already I was in really good shape when I started it, like
55:11
the best shape of my life and like 12% body fat already maybe.
55:17
And I lost five 6 lbs pretty quickly because I was sick,
55:22
literally sick. But when I came back from Europe
55:25
and I got on the scale, I had lost like 10 lbs of muscle and I
55:29
had gained fat even though I had lost weight.
55:31
And then the symptoms went away and I was taking it and just
55:34
raising my doses, but I was eating again.
55:37
And then I just started gaining fat.
55:38
And then I went down this whole rabbit hole of, you know,
55:40
gaining 14 lbs. And I wasn't going to the gym
55:43
and I was losing all my muscle and everything was just a shit
55:46
show. And yeah, I worry that they're
55:49
giving it now to 12 year olds and to everybody.
55:51
Everyone wants to take it because it works.
55:54
I'm putting quotes around it, right?
55:55
Yeah, But long term it doesn't, right?
55:58
And you know, you don't have to understand anything I said.
56:01
Just hear your story and people are going to end up where you
56:05
got. They're just not there yet, and
56:07
that's the problem. I ended up getting off of it and
56:10
then getting lipo because I had gained weight from being on semi
56:13
glutide after you know the initial weight loss and then
56:16
destroying my body, you know much further and.
56:19
Just because when you lose that much muscle, your metabolism
56:22
will follow. And then it becomes, Oh, I need
56:24
more, I need more and more and more and that, that it's not
56:27
working. And then now you start getting
56:30
joint problems and you start getting other problems.
56:33
And you know, I mean, I know that there's some people out
56:35
there on social media said, you know, it causes cancer.
56:38
This I looked at some of that. I don't, I'm not going to make
56:41
that claim. I, I thought that was a little
56:43
bit of a stretch. Maybe if it was studied long,
56:46
long term that might change that opinion, but I don't think that
56:52
it's cancer is a fear. I think really the metabolic
56:55
crashing is the big fear. OK, I know we're going to wrap
56:59
up here, but if someone could change just one thing today to
57:03
dramatically improve their health, what would you recommend
57:06
they do? Wow.
57:08
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to say this.
57:10
I, I think that, I think that if we can avoid plastic as best we
57:17
can, stop drinking out of plastic bottles.
57:19
You know, that's why I was like, didn't want that.
57:21
Thank you. By the way, pay attention to
57:27
your personal care products where you're getting a lot of
57:30
these petroleums and plastics that are massive hormone
57:33
disruptors. In one bottle of water, there's
57:36
240 microplastics. Wow, that turn to nanoplastics
57:40
and are being in our tissue. And when you're looking at these
57:43
studies now that they're doing, they're finding microplastics in
57:47
every tissue in the body, including the human brain on
57:51
autopsies. They're finding about a teaspoon
57:54
of plastic in the human brain driving inflammation, right.
57:58
And then they're finding it in male penises and testicles and
58:01
women's ovaries that these are hormone disrupting chemicals and
58:06
we are in an absolute hormone crisis in this country.
58:11
But it's not because we're lacking hormones.
58:14
It's not so simple. So therefore just taking
58:16
hormones is not the answer. Time and a place.
58:19
But the fact is, is we better pay attention to this plastic
58:24
problem that we're putting in our bodies, on our bodies.
58:28
Drinking it. My gosh, I can't tell you how
58:30
many people in the healthy space are still drinking water from a
58:35
tap. I asked them, is this water
58:37
filter? Yes.
58:37
You know what I mean? It's like, you know, but I, you
58:40
know, don't do that. Yeah, maybe it's even more
58:43
simple. Maybe I tell everyone just don't
58:44
drink bottled water and make sure you're drinking filtered
58:48
water, Right? It's like reverse osmosis.
58:51
Cheap, easy, everyone should install it in their home because
58:55
hormone laden water is coming into that, into your house.
58:59
Plastic chemicals are coming in through that, fluoride,
59:03
chlorine, you name it, all hormone disrupting, all cancer
59:06
causing and people are just taking it down.
59:09
One easy thing, change that. But if it's in a glass bottle,
59:13
it's OK. Yeah, Glass is what you want,
59:15
right? Absolutely.
59:16
Gosh. OK, and then what about
59:18
microwaves? Plastic microwave.
59:20
Oh yeah, I mean eating hot food in plastic is just an absolute
59:24
nightmare. You know, hot, spicy acid food
59:28
in plastic. Like, you know, go to Costco and
59:30
get the glass storage dishes. Do not eat out of plastic
59:34
anymore. Oh gosh, don't use aluminum foil
59:37
please. That yeah, aluminum is
59:39
accumulating in the human brain like crazy.
59:42
Or any people using aluminum foil and a perspirants with
59:46
aluminum. Oh, and that, you know, now it's
59:48
falling out of the sky. You know why?
59:49
Because it's a, a jet fuel additive to make jet fuel more
59:53
efficient and aluminum's in it. So we have this aluminum rise in
59:57
our water and our food supply. So, you know, we have aluminum
1:00:02
going into our brain. We already have mercury from our
1:00:04
parents, right? It's like this is, you know, a
1:00:08
disaster. At least filter your water for
1:00:10
goodness sakes. Yeah.
1:00:12
No doubt. And what about like mercury and
1:00:14
fish? Is it not good to eat?
1:00:15
Yeah, well, I mean, again, eat cleaner.
1:00:17
Eat the cleaner fish. The smaller the fish, the
1:00:19
cleaner. Cold water fish typically are
1:00:22
better, right? Large fish like, you know, tuna,
1:00:26
swordfish, shark, and they're going to be worse.
1:00:28
Grouper, sardines are better wild caught salmon, right, wild
1:00:35
caught, not farm raised. Stay away from Atlantic
1:00:38
anything. OK, all right.
1:00:40
I could talk to you for 15 lifetimes, But last question to
1:00:44
wrap up is what's the biggest lesson you've learned on your
1:00:46
journey and how do you hope to inspire others to take control
1:00:49
of their health? You know, we brought up a lot of
1:00:52
bad things here, right? But I always say your purpose is
1:00:55
in your pain. You know, from pain to purpose
1:00:58
to promise, As you know, our family mantra and everything
1:01:03
that I do that it's meaningful came out of my pain, right?
1:01:06
So, so many people listening to this have so much pain, right?
1:01:09
That we couldn't even understand.
1:01:11
Look what's going on in California, the wild fires,
1:01:15
these fires that are taking place.
1:01:17
But somehow if we set that intention to find purpose in the
1:01:22
pain, somehow that's how we lead, you know, to our purpose,
1:01:26
right? But if you don't set that
1:01:28
intention, then often times we miss the purpose that could have
1:01:31
been in the pain. Thank you.
1:01:34
Appreciate you being here. Love being here.