Latest / What Tha Group Chat Say / How Situationships Started for Me...And Where it Led Me (Part 2)
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- 0:00Vonnie: Welcome to What tha group Chat Say the podcast where the group chat.
- 0:03Finally got a mic.
- 0:05We're three friends in our forties talking about life, friendships, relationships, and everything we didn't see coming in this decade.
- 0:11I'm Vonnie here with Keya and Drea, and on today's episode, we're continuing Drea saga of situation ships and domestic violence.
- 0:21drea: I swung.
- 0:23Next thing you know there's blood.
- 0:26And then I hear him on the phone with the police.
- 0:32I do remember going into the kitchen and putting the knife in the kitchen.
- 0:37Now how I got it, I don't know.
- 0:39'cause I can't seem to remember.
- 0:41That's all I remember still to this day, even after counseling, like that's all I remember.
- 0:47And I then ran because mind you guys, I have a social work degree already.
- 0:51I have a bachelor's in social work about to have a fucking master's and I know that Child Protective services with domestic violence, they will come and take my child.
- 0:59I run to the fucking bedroom, I'm banging on the door.
- 1:02His daughter opens the door and she's like, oh my God, are you guys okay?
- 1:04I said, listen, you guys do not, where's the phone?
- 1:07Where's the fucking phone?
- 1:08I get on the phone, I call who's not my friend anymore, I called her and I said, I don't know where the fuck you are, but you got 15 minutes to get the fuck to my house.
- 1:16I need you to get to my house and get my son and get my son.
- 1:19Now I'm about to go to jail and I need my son picked up so he does not go into custody.
- 1:24She was at my house so motherfucking quick.
- 1:26I think the police had just got there and were handcuffing me as she was walking in and she was like, I'm taking her child.
- 1:32They tried to interview my child and I say, you can't interview my kid.
- 1:36And they're like, we have the right to do what we want, but luckily my son.
- 1:39Was only like eight at the time.
- 1:41His daughter, I wanna say was 16.
- 1:45They both told the police, they heard and saw nothing, which they didn't.
- 1:48They were in the room.
- 1:48They probably heard it, but they saw nothing.
- 1:51But she knew what to say.
- 1:53in the midst of that, they come in, they handcuff me.
- 1:57'cause of course he's the one bleeding.
- 1:59I'm trying to tell them what he did.
- 2:01They, they didn't, they didn't care.
- 2:03He is sitting outside and I hear him, he's sitting at the door.
- 2:06So imagine someone sitting at your front door with the door open and you're sitting on the couch and you, and we're literally diagonal from each other.
- 2:13But I'm in the house, right?
- 2:14I'm rocking guys.
- 2:15When I say I'm rocking, I'm handcuffed and I'm rocking back and forth.
- 2:19I am self-soothing myself because I am fucked.
- 2:22I just fucked my life up.
- 2:24I'm self-soothing.
- 2:25And this motherfucker is outside the door saying, I love you boo boo.
- 2:29I love you boo boo girl.
- 2:30'cause that's what he called me, boo boo girl.
- 2:32He called me Boo boo girl, and kept fucking saying it, talking about, I love you.
- 2:35We're gonna get through this, don't worry, we're gonna get through this.
- 2:38And in my head I'm thinking, motherfucker, if we was gonna get through this, you called, you called the motherfucking police bitch.
- 2:44Like, what the fuck?
- 2:47and so I'm literally rocking guys, like I'm self-soothing.
- 2:52I'm, I just lost my entire career right in my head.
- 2:57talk about depression, that is the one time in my life that people who say they suffer from depression and they cannot see light, I suffered from that for weeks.
- 3:09basically, luckily my friend at the time took my son to my mother and I went to jail.
- 3:16I went to jail.
- 3:18I was facing Class one felony charges.
- 3:24when I was in jail.
- 3:26Again, I don't know what it is about me going to jail in flip flops and fucking tank top and shorts, but I'm in jail didn't think I was gonna get out girl.
- 3:36Right?
- 3:37so that is when I was like, what the fuck, Drea?
- 3:41But I'll tell you this, I did not cry.
- 3:43Not once.
- 3:44I did not cry.
- 3:46I let them take me to jail.
- 3:48I got into jail.
- 3:49I did not fucking cry.
- 3:51I sat there, did not fucking speak to anyone.
- 3:53And the crazy thing is I ran into somebody I fucking knew.
- 3:57And this bitch starts, she's a friend of a friend who starts telling people, what you doing in here, Drea?
- 4:02I'm my, now all the hookers and, the drunks are coming in, right?
- 4:05Because this happened in the afternoon.
- 4:07I was in jail by three o'clock on a Sunday afternoon, guys.
- 4:10So now it's like three o'clock in the morning and all the hookers and the drunks are coming in.
- 4:15And this bitch starts telling people, this bitch is a therapist.
- 4:18She a counselor.
- 4:19What she girl, if you don't shut the fuck up right now.
- 4:23So.
- 4:25in the midst of that, I found out that he also, in the midst of that, I also found out that he did get arrested too.
- 4:32However, they took him to the hospital first to get his hand stitched up, and then, but he got released from jail before I did.
- 4:40And here's the kicker, they released him to my house.
- 4:47So when it was my turn to go, yeah.
- 4:50So when it was my turn to go to court, to find out if they were gonna release me or have a bail or whatever, you guys have never been to jail, so you don't know that when you're facing real charges like this, have to fill out forms, at least back then you did.
- 5:04You have to fill out forms of like what you do for a living, what's your level of education, where do you live, all these different things.
- 5:11when they saw on there that I had a bachelor's degree and was in college for my master's degree, I worked with teenage boys at a therapeutic group home.
- 5:22They're looking at me like, what in the fuck?
- 5:25Like all I was the talking, I was literally the talking, like they talked, all the cos in there talked about me guys, every single time they moved me from one cell to another or from one area to another, they all knew who the fuck I was.
- 5:43And every, I'm not even exaggerating.
- 5:45Every last one of 'em was like, you the girl who's got a degree?
- 5:49Are you the one who's a social worker?
- 5:51I, I heard the guy that you dealing with, he don't even got a whole real job.
- 5:56Yeah.
- 5:57Lesson of life.
- 5:58Never fuck with somebody.
- 6:01Yes.
- 6:01Never fuck with somebody who has nothing to lose.
- 6:04Guys.
- 6:05Biggest lesson of life.
- 6:06Did I know that years ago?
- 6:07Yes.
- 6:08But did I really understand it until I literally was losing my entire career over a motherfucker who had nothing to lose?
- 6:17So.
- 6:19The blessing of that situation was, is the person who,
- 6:24two blessings.
- 6:25One, the man who, um, fingerprinted me there.
- 6:29was an retired detective.
- 6:33So he asked me, 'cause I'd already been in there now for almost, I was at 36 hours, almost two days.
- 6:38Okay.
- 6:39Mind you, I was hungry, was thirsty didn't wanna drink water out the toilet because that water fountain was behind the toilet, like on the toilet.
- 6:48It was disgusting.
- 6:49I don't eat fucking peanuts.
- 6:51I literally ate oranges for days.
- 6:53I would refuse to eat them nasty fucking sandwiches.
- 6:56Sheriff Joe was in office then, guys,
- 6:58Vonnie: So
- 6:58drea: was the
- 6:59Vonnie: do you have the
- 7:01Expired bologna.
- 7:04drea: right, right.
- 7:05Exactly.
- 7:05This shit was yellow.
- 7:06Anyways, I'm sitting here like in my head, I'm like, I'm in here with these bitches.
- 7:14Bitch, you got shit going for yourself.
- 7:15Like you, like I, but still have not cried.
- 7:18Right?
- 7:20I didn't call my mama because I was always told not to call when I go to jail.
- 7:24So nobody heard from me guys.
- 7:27They just still have in jail.
- 7:28So, uh, the, the detective says to me, can I touch you?
- 7:32And I was like, um, sure.
- 7:34Because I had on a tank top and I'm so light, started showing me where all of my defense wounds were because now all my bruising is coming up all over my body.
- 7:47So he started telling me where, what to do.
- 7:49So he's the one who told me that when I get outta jail that I need to have one of my friends, I need to strip down butt naked and have my friends take pictures of every single mark on my body.
- 8:02And I was like, okay.
- 8:04So.
- 8:05Then I go to see the judge and let me tell you this fucking judge, boy, she was like, so let me see this, you, and she's like, and don't talk, I don't want you to incriminate yourself, but let me get this straight.
- 8:19You got a degree, you're about to get a degree.
- 8:21You are in school, correct?
- 8:22I said, yes, I'm supposed to graduate in two months.
- 8:25Okay.
- 8:26And you work with teenagers?
- 8:28Yes ma'am.
- 8:30you own your own house?
- 8:31Yes ma'am.
- 8:32And you're a single mother?
- 8:33Yes ma'am.
- 8:34She said, well, damn, you should know better then, huh?
- 8:40That, that is when I cried.
- 8:45That is when tears, I didn't boo-hoo.
- 8:47But that is when tears went down my, my face and I said yes.
- 8:53And I have a fingerprint clearance card.
- 8:55And due to me being in jail right now, I will be losing my job when I get outta jail and I will not have a job.
- 9:03She said, you're correct.
- 9:04You will not have a job.
- 9:07And I said, yes, I know.
- 9:08I'm aware.
- 9:09And then she said to me, I'm gonna let you out, without, with, with no, you don't have to worry about bail.
- 9:14I'm gonna, O.R. you?
- 9:15But if I ever see you in this courtroom again, I will make sure you go down because you know better.
- 9:20I'll never forget that woman's words.
- 9:23So here's the kicker.
- 9:24When I got released outta jail, I called my mother.
- 9:27But guess what?
- 9:28My, my, my paper said I was not allowed to go to my I was not allowed to go home to my own fucking house until the first court date, which was three and a half weeks away.
- 9:41So not only did I go to jail, I'm getting charged with a class one felony.
- 9:46Me and my son are technically homeless, but I have a home because guess what?
- 9:52that's the address he put.
- 9:54Where he lives, and because he got released first and he had been living there for 30 days, he got to stay in my house I had to couch surf
- 10:02Keya: For
- 10:03drea: three and a half weeks.
- 10:04Vonnie: That.
- 10:05Keya: fuck.
- 10:10drea: The first week, the first week I couldn't even function.
- 10:13Guys, when I tell you I could not function, he is calling my phone.
- 10:18And I'm like, what do you want?
- 10:20You're not supposed to talk to me?
- 10:21Well, we'll get through this.
- 10:22Don't worry.
- 10:22I didn't give them the right number.
- 10:24He steady and I'm just like, fuck you.
- 10:27My son stayed at my mama's house and my sister's house.
- 10:31I was too ashamed.
- 10:32I stayed at my friend's house for the first five days.
- 10:34I laid on her couch and did nothing but sleep and cry until one day she said, bitch, get your ass up.
- 10:42You ain't got no job.
- 10:43You ain't got no money, like you about to get up.
- 10:45And I was like, I can't.
- 10:46I have no energy.
- 10:47And that was the first time in my life I felt depression.
- 10:50I thought I had depression.
- 10:52When I had postpartum.
- 10:53This was a whole nother level.
- 10:55I literally could not function.
- 10:58It was like I had to be told what to do because I was so disappointed in myself.
- 11:05And I was planning on how I can't have my son go live with his dad.
- 11:10His dad's not doing good.
- 11:12I, my poor son, like, I was so worried about my son and what was gonna happen to him, you know what I'm saying?
- 11:20I go to prison.
- 11:21so, in the midst of that, I needed to get clothes.
- 11:26So I had, uh, I had one of my friends drive by and they thought that my ex wasn't home, but come to find out he was.
- 11:36So when I tried to go sneak in my house, that motherfucker's baby mama pulled up and I saw her walk up to my door and they was talking and I was parked down the street.
- 11:49I'm not supposed to be there.
- 11:50So I was gonna park down the street, run up the street, grab some shit and leave.
- 11:55But then I saw he was home and he had this bitch in my house.
- 11:59Keya: So,
- 11:59strong.
- 12:00drea: So, and then here's the kicker.
- 12:03what could I, at this point, let me tell you.
- 12:07Remember, remember?
- 12:08Yeah.
- 12:08Remember when I said, when I went to jail the first time and I blacked out fighting my son's father?
- 12:15That's the first time I realized I had a real problem when I cut him and I couldn't remember stuff.
- 12:24That was a reality check for me.
- 12:27That is when I learned how important emotional intelligence is, because I already damn near lost my entire future for somebody fuck him and that bitch do what the fuck you wanna do in that motherfucking house.
- 12:40You know what I'm saying?
- 12:41So then I go to court, I got blessed.
- 12:44This was my blessing.
- 12:45I got blessed.
- 12:47The charges were scratched.
- 12:49The attorney general didn't pull up the case and charge me within the 72 hours they had to do so.
- 12:56I think that had to do with the judge.
- 12:58I think the judge gave me mercy right when she let me out.
- 13:05So I had, my mom helped me, my mom helped me get a lawyer.
- 13:09I was lawyered up, I was ready.
- 13:11And when we showed up, the charges were scratched.
- 13:14However, they had seven years pull it up on me.
- 13:18So if I got, they could pull it up at any given time if they wanted to, or if I got into trouble, they would pull that charge back up on me.
- 13:26they couldn't get ahold of him, he wasn't gonna press charges, but the city decided not to.
- 13:32So for seven years I counted down every year for them, charges to be, you know, erased anyways.
- 13:41When the charges were scratched, guess what?
- 13:43I get to go home, but guess who's still there?
- 13:46Him and he refused to leave.
- 13:50But guess what?
- 13:52no motherfucking job guys.
- 13:54I had no way to pay my car.
- 13:56I had no way to pay my mortgage.
- 13:58I had no way to do anything, and I had no family that I could call or anybody to help me.
- 14:06I'll never forget my friend Vanessa.
- 14:08I love her to death.
- 14:10she found out I went to jail and I came back, she came over and gave me money and helped me pay my mortgage.
- 14:17And while I helped me pay some of my bills because she knew I had no job, you know?
- 14:22I was still low because I could not get a job.
- 14:25Now I graduated.
- 14:26Now we're in May, guys, he is still living with me.
- 14:29We're in May.
- 14:30I get my degree.
- 14:32I can't get a job.
- 14:36I can't get a job in social work, so I had to be creative.
- 14:41Right.
- 14:41I got a whole ass master's degree.
- 14:44I can't afford to take my state licensure test.
- 14:46I'm too stressed to do it.
- 14:48I fucking failed my fucking test to get out of college because I was so stressed miserable.
- 14:55I ended up having to take a oral test, which was probably better, did a presentation and I fucking graduated.
- 15:00Okay.
- 15:01finally get a job two weeks after my graduation At the City of Phoenix?
- 15:05No, not city of Phoenix.
- 15:06At university of Phoenix at the academic counselor because I, my background didn't matter because the charges were scratched.
- 15:14I didn't need a fingerprint clearance card for that.
- 15:16So I got a job.
- 15:19I get my first month paycheck.
- 15:21He's still living in my house, what the fuck he wants to do, trying to act like we're okay.
- 15:27I love you.
- 15:28We're good.
- 15:29You're gonna be fine.
- 15:30And in my head, I'm thinking.
- 15:33fuck you.
- 15:35I ruined my life.
- 15:36Like I'm trying to figure out how to get them fuck outta my house.
- 15:39to work one day and this motherfucker shows up to my job.
- 15:44I come outside and he starts acting a fucking fool in the parking lot of my
- 15:50Vonnie: What.
- 15:51drea: about anxiety and the police.
- 15:56I went back into that building.
- 15:59I went to my supervisor.
- 16:01I had only been working there like five weeks, and I said, I'm being harassed and I need to go get a restraining order.
- 16:08I have to go.
- 16:10I left.
- 16:11I went straight to the victim advocate center.
- 16:15That motherfuckers helped me file for a restraining order.
- 16:18I got that motherfucker served and up out my motherfucking house the same fucking day,
- 16:23Vonnie: Woo.
- 16:25drea: that I was done.
- 16:27Do you hear me?
- 16:29I was done until.
- 16:31He was stalking me when I'd go to work and I'd come home.
- 16:35He knew how to get in my house.
- 16:37Tools would be missing, stuff would be missing.
- 16:40He was coming in my house, y'all when I wasn't home.
- 16:44Okay.
- 16:46So now I'm feeling like that little girl whose daddy stalked my mama.
- 16:52I'm feeling like that little girl who's that first boy who hit me was stalking me, and I was in a horrible place in the midst of this.
- 17:02I'm trying to be a parent.
- 17:03Luckily, that summer I did send my son off to his dad.
- 17:07sent my son to his dad with the, even though I knew I shouldn't have, but I had to because had to figure this shit out.
- 17:14So, got him up at my house.
- 17:16Luckily my son was gone, so I was able to do some shit then he kept stalking me and then I just stopped paying my fucking mortgage.
- 17:23I let my house go into foreclosure.
- 17:25I packed up all my fucking shit, and me and my son fucking moved and I hid and I hid for a long time.
- 17:32I still would talk to his kids sometimes, um, daughter, um, his two oldest daughter.
- 17:39Um, and I always talk to his sister.
- 17:41I still talk to his niece.
- 17:42I still talk to his sister.
- 17:43Like I'm still good with people because they knew that I wasn't a bad person.
- 17:48And story short, he stalked me for years.
- 17:51Even when I lived somewhere else, there was times he came banging on my door when I, when my ride or die was there.
- 17:58And eventually he just left me the fuck alone.
- 18:01And here's the funny thing is now that we're in a situation, I could see him right now and I would go support his business.
- 18:09I have no hard feelings against him.
- 18:11I have no hate against him at all.
- 18:14Because what I learned from that is I took accountability for my own actions.
- 18:21I took my power back and I looked at my childhood.
- 18:25I looked at my relationships, I looked at my mistakes, I looked at my bad choices.
- 18:31I looked at all of that.
- 18:32And that situation with him was not all him.
- 18:37I should not have been with him.
- 18:40I should not have came back that day.
- 18:42I should never let him move back in my house knowing we had a dysfunctional relationship, I should not have been using him to fix my cars.
- 18:49Knowing I talked to other people, I don't hate him.
- 18:54And I could be in a room with him and laughing and giggle and be cool.
- 18:59I don't want him ever again.
- 19:01I can be super cool with him because that was my biggest lesson.
- 19:05I would had to be accountable for myself I could have got myself out of that and never got to that point, if that makes sense.
- 19:14so that was the end of my abuse.
- 19:17so that's why I'm where I'm at today, because I don't wanna mess with a man's feelings for two.
- 19:24I know I'm fucking crazy.
- 19:28I turned myself around and I started, I volunteered for the past 12 years, 13, actually, like 14 years, at a women's program where I taught anger management and coping skills.
- 19:39I taught domestic violence, the cycle of domestic violence.
- 19:43that to remind myself, but also to give back because although I was a victim of domestic violence, I also became the product of a domestic violence by always being willing to fight because I always had to fight.
- 19:56And in that, that last relationship I probably didn't have to fight.
- 20:01Until we had a fight.
- 20:03So it helped me to heal myself.
- 20:06But in the midst of that.
- 20:09just did not like I started dating the guy, the, I'm gonna call him the long term and having him around all those years because he is been around for decades and people always wonder like, why?
- 20:28you know what, I first started dating him, it was about two years after the, the, the me cutting someone.
- 20:37But when we started talking, there was one day where he kind of got loud with me and I said, Hey, I can't be in a relationship with a man who makes me feel that we argue you're gonna make me feel like you might hurt me.
- 20:49I had to really be honest with him.
- 20:51And I had to tell him like, I can't be in a relationship, that I'm gonna be fearful of being hurt.
- 20:59I can't fight you.
- 21:00'cause for one, I'm a woman and I'm not gonna win.
- 21:03I've learned that.
- 21:04And for two, I don't wanna go to prison.
- 21:07So we had that conversation only been one time that we had a physical altercation.
- 21:14And that was because one day he was at the club I was at the club, but I was at a whole other club and he was gonna meet me at my house after the club.
- 21:25And I get a phone call from him when I'm trying to get home.
- 21:28I have my best friend in the car, we're trying to get home, he calls me and says, I'm so fucking pissed right now.
- 21:35I said, what happened?
- 21:37He was like, somebody busted out my window of my car.
- 21:40I said, what the fuck?
- 21:41At the club?
- 21:41He was like, yeah.
- 21:42I said, did they take anything?
- 21:44He is like, no.
- 21:45I said, well, what the fuck?
- 21:46Who the fuck you fucking with?
- 21:47That a bitch?
- 21:48Uh, bust out your window?
- 21:49He said, oh, you just know it's a bitch, huh?
- 21:52I was like, what are you saying?
- 21:53I said, we know you probably got other hoes like you've been pissed somebody off.
- 21:57Somebody mad at your ass.
- 21:58He said, that's funny you say that.
- 22:00Where are you at?
- 22:02I said, well, I'm almost home.
- 22:04he was like, oh yeah, because somebody came up to me in the club and told me some big booty Mexican girl busted my window out.
- 22:11Keya: Hilarious.
- 22:15drea: Guys, still to this day, I know my ex will say he didn't do it, but I know he fucking did it.
- 22:21He knew who my guy was because a month before that he told me where my guy the time hung out and what kind of car he drove.
- 22:32So mind you, that was a horrible night because I then get home, I tell my homegirl, I said, girl, he's mad.
- 22:38He think I busted his his fucking window out and it ain't me.
- 22:41But he said he is still coming over.
- 22:43So I'm running to the Circle K across the street from my house in my car.
- 22:47To get a blunt.
- 22:48'cause I'm like, well we just gonna smoke a blunt.
- 22:49He'll be okay.
- 22:50Right.
- 22:51I don't know who did it 'cause they my, I didn't do it like I did not do it guys, I don't fuck with people's property 'cause I don't want anybody fuck with mine.
- 22:59I didn't do it.
- 23:00As I'm coming outta Circle K, I get fucking pulled over by the fucking police.
- 23:05I literally live across the street.
- 23:06This police officer has me hemmed up for 45 minutes outside my car and I literally could see my front door.
- 23:13'cause that's what I lived in the townhouses in Tempe.
- 23:16In the midst of that, I see him drive by and so I'm like, oh, well he's gotta leave.
- 23:2145 minutes later I go to my house, he's sitting outside and he was like, oh, so you got pulled over for speeding home after busting out my window.
- 23:29That's what he thought.
- 23:30I said I got pulled over 'cause I didn't turn my lights on after coming from Circle K and I, and I didn't have, I said, I took my leggings off and I have a seat, my, my knitted sweater address, just kind of see through it.
- 23:41I think the police officer was trying to look through my fucking clothes, you know, like I'm really trying to, you know, explain to him.
- 23:48But in his mind, somebody fucking told him that I busted his window out, but didn't say my name.
- 23:55Just describe me.
- 23:56Ain't that kind of ironic guys.
- 23:58So anyways, we, we arguing and I tell him, dude, I can, we can't be arguing.
- 24:05Like, I cannot go to jail, but he's hot.
- 24:08So tell me why.
- 24:10I had tile I had a rug on the floor and this mother, the rug always moved.
- 24:16Like, it always shifted.
- 24:17Okay.
- 24:17Like when I tell you, walk on it and moved.
- 24:19Okay.
- 24:21He went to walk on the rug and fell on me.
- 24:25I thought he was trying to fight me and I fucking lost it.
- 24:30And I started kicking and swinging to get up off of me, and he jumped back.
- 24:34Like my bad.
- 24:35I fell like I wasn't trying, and he literally did not tell.
- 24:38He literally fell on me.
- 24:39Okay?
- 24:40But I snapped and then I got scared, and then I stopped.
- 24:43So then he, he goes to leave, and so I was like, yeah, you need to leave.
- 24:47I walked behind him to go to lock the door.
- 24:50He turns around and pushes me, slid my whole hallway all the way down to the fucking next, like the door.
- 24:59I slid across my entire fucking living room.
- 25:03I get up and forget that I have these charges.
- 25:08I go outside.
- 25:09His window is busted, and I fucking clocked him in his motherfucking mouth and busted his fucking lip.
- 25:17And then I went in the house and locked the door.
- 25:20He is then banging on my fucking door.
- 25:22And now I'm in the house scared as fuck because I'm like, he's gonna beat my ass.
- 25:27The police don't come.
- 25:28I'm gonna go to jail.
- 25:30isn't supposed to happen, right?
- 25:32So he's banging and I'm like, oh my God.
- 25:34So I finally just said, I, it's either let him in and take the ass whooping or fucking have the police come, right?
- 25:40I chose ass whooping.
- 25:43He comes to the house and he looks at me.
- 25:45He was like, are you fucking crazy?
- 25:47Ain't nobody ever busted my lip.
- 25:49He's in the bathroom now looking at his lip like, I've been in so many fights and ain't no man ever busted my lip and you just gonna bust my lip.
- 25:58And I'm like, I'm so sorry.
- 26:00I thought you were trying to hurt me.
- 26:01He was like, I was in domestic.
- 26:03And he tells me I had domestic violence with my first son's mother, when I try to leave the house, she came from behind me and started choking me.
- 26:14said, and I got arrested for that.
- 26:17And then I said, oh.
- 26:21So you turned around thinking I was gonna hurt you and I wasn't.
- 26:25I was just gonna lock the door behind you.
- 26:28instead you pushed me 'cause you thought I was gonna do something.
- 26:32And then I got mad and retaliated, right?
- 26:37Do you understand that?
- 26:38We sat in that house for three hours after that and we discussed the entire situation.
- 26:44At this point, I'm crying and I'm like, I don't want a man that's gonna hurt me.
- 26:48Why do I keep finding these men?
- 26:50And he's looking at me like, I would never hurt you.
- 26:53I don't put my hands on women.
- 26:55you know, we have this whole long conversation and after that we never had any of those type of things.
- 27:02Like he'd get angry here or there, but never, I never felt, you know, there was only one other time where he got so angry and that was probably when he went through my phone that he grabbed me.
- 27:15But I, I. I don't fight back anymore guys.
- 27:19I actually shrivel up and I just, I sit there, I have no reaction whatsoever.
- 27:29none because I am too terrified of going to prison or I don't wanna fight a man.
- 27:37so like everybody wonders why I dealt with him all of these years in my situationship, that was a relationship.
- 27:43'cause I called him my boyfriend for so long.
- 27:45But it was a situationship really.
- 27:48I never want, I started the problem.
- 27:50I never wanted to live with him.
- 27:51I didn't wanna spend the night.
- 27:53I, I had all these different rules because I was terrified of getting too close to somebody, terrified of being in a domestic violence relationship.
- 28:02I also really was more terrified of myself.
- 28:05Like it took me years to be okay with.
- 28:09What if my feelings got hurt?
- 28:10Am I gonna react a certain way?
- 28:12What if this happens?
- 28:13What if that happens?
- 28:14And so he actually stood by my side all these years as I worked through my shit.
- 28:20Like I literally had to work through my shit.
- 28:21I had to forgive myself.
- 28:23had to accept myself.
- 28:25I had to understand where I got diagnosed with PTSD.
- 28:29ADHD, I had to understand where the PTSD came from.
- 28:32I had to understand my anger issues.
- 28:35I had to do a lot of self, I had to learn myself and I had to teach myself, and I had to love myself and I had to give back to myself.
- 28:45And I had to be feel safe.
- 28:47I can never be with a man who makes me feel unsafe.
- 28:51If we have an argument, I need to know that he's not gonna leave because we argued and he is not gonna try to harm me.
- 28:57And so for years, that is how.
- 29:00got into the situation ships, I always had them.
- 29:03Let's not lie, I always had them.
- 29:05However, I embraced them even more as I got older after cutting my ex because I did not trust myself and I had to work on myself.
- 29:14Had a lot, a lot of work to do, um, which is even why now I try to control my anger.
- 29:19But I, like I said, I teach anger management and I've accepted, like, I honestly, if it wasn't for the police and cameras, I'd probably pop a lot on people and be ready to swing.
- 29:28I'm a happy, lucky, go lucky person, but I'd be ready to fight a lot guys.
- 29:33And a lot of it is if I fear for my life or just fearful in a situation.
- 29:40so yeah, that's how, and then my son moved outta my house and then being by myself for so many years and working on myself helped.
- 29:48But now I've been alone for so long that it's like, do I want somebody in my life?
- 29:52I want somebody in my house?
- 29:55I don't, I can't promise you that if, I think we talked about this before.
- 29:59I think you guys asked me like if I got in a relationship and I found out the dude was cheating on me, would I harm him?
- 30:10I would.
- 30:11we lived together or were married, I can't promise you that if I caught a man cheating on me that I would not pop.
- 30:19And so I am just very careful with anyone that lives in my house.
- 30:24When the guy lived with me, he only lived with me for a few months in my entire adult life.
- 30:29have cumulative between my son's father and my ex, probably lived with a man nine months out of my life.
- 30:36Cumulative between them both.
- 30:38So my entire diet life, adult life what?
- 30:42How many years is that?
- 30:43I can't even count.
- 30:4329 years or something.
- 30:46I've literally lived alone it was my son.
- 30:49Keya: Damn.
- 30:50drea: So that's my story of how I got here in my domestic violence.
- 30:56What I would say to women is domestic violence isn't just physical, it's mental.
- 31:03It's money and control and power.
- 31:05is, it is not an easy thing to get out of.
- 31:10I've had the pleasure of working with women who have suffered from domestic violence.
- 31:14It is real.
- 31:15It's not a game.
- 31:17you can definitely feel bad about yourself, that is why I'm the chronically situationship woman who's barely gotten to the age where I might trust being in a relationship or feel safe to be in one.
- 31:31when it's all said and done, technically I have been in one for 15, 16 years and I didn't always give him enough credit for.
- 31:40Dealing with me all these years when I was really trying to figure out myself and what I was fearful of.
- 31:47he helped me not be fearful like being able to have disagreements that weren't gonna escalate into abuse.
- 31:56So shout out to him, but, um, because everybody always wondered why I dealt with him for so long, but he understood my crazy, I guess helped me through my bullshit.
- 32:09So
- 32:10Keya: what is.
- 32:12The biggest, biggest, biggest piece of advice that you can give a woman or a man who finds themselves in this situation the very first time?
- 32:31as a social worker, as someone who's clinically trained in this,
- 32:37drea: so there's so many different levels, but if it just started, I would definitely remove yourself from it and get away from it and not go back.
- 32:46look at yourself and see why you wanna go back why it even happened.
- 32:54I would also say that if you're in a, if you're in abusive relationship now and you're scared for your life, because I didn't experience where men have said, I'm gonna kill you, if you leave me, where people have been told they're gonna be, they're gonna kill them.
- 33:06I, I've had patient people that I like, clients that I've talked to where their abuser has said, I will kill myself or kill you if you leave me.
- 33:14So you stay for that guilt.
- 33:15You wanna have a safety plan, you wanna have money saved.
- 33:19You wanna have a plan of where you'll, you'll run to if you have to run.
- 33:23because my situation is nothing compared to what other people after I've, you know, talked with people.
- 33:31but the one thing is it's okay to not be okay.
- 33:35And you don't have to be silent.
- 33:38It's not a shame to be abused.
- 33:42It's.
- 33:44Unfortunate for some people who have to go through it, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.
- 33:49there's more help out there than what you think.
- 33:51that there's always somebody that loves you even when you think they don't.
- 33:55And it's not your abuser there is, you know, domestic, violence, shelters, hotlines, there's so much more help out there these days.
- 34:03So I would definitely say remove yourself.
- 34:07not to go back.
- 34:08Surround yourself around important people, like special people that are willing to help you through this that you are not the problem.
- 34:17that's what I would say.
- 34:19Vonnie: Thank you for sharing your stories with us and um, a lot of that I did not know, I was not there during those times.
- 34:29Anybody wanna reach out, have comments, gone through something similar,
- 34:35please reach out to us.
- 34:39drea: Most of my family never heard it.
- 34:40never knew about my stories.
- 34:42Guys,
- 34:42this will be the
- 34:43time that my family
- 34:46with Mexican family there's shit we keep quiet, just so you know.
- 34:50So it's out there.
- 34:51Keya: Black families as well.
- 34:53So yeah, I, definitely Second what Vonnie said, chatties, if you out there, you have your own stories, please let us know.
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