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#488 Confronting Ideological Threats and Sexual Misconduct in Education: A Call for Vigilance and Action · Claymore: Become Who You Are

• 0:10
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Become who you Are podcast, a production of the John Paul II Renewal Center.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: I'm Jack Riggert, your host, and I'm back with Thomas Hampson.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: Tom's a good friend of ours.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Tom and I were talking about this three-pronged attack on the innocent.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: These are children, right.
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: First, abortion if they make it out of the womb.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: We've got gender ideologies that directly attack these poor kids, you know, render them sterile.
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: We've got all these labels the L, b, g, t, q, I, a, double S plus labels that are used now T-Q-I-A-S-S plus labels that are used now listen to this as a cover, as a cover for grooming, desensitizing and the exploitation of children, normalizing pornography as a primary weapon.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: And this is what Tom and I find all the time.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: We find when we go up in school boards or push back on some of these ideologies, they call you a hater, a transphobe, and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: And we try to show people that you know, forget about the labels we're slapping on people.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: What's underneath all that?
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: What are they bringing into the schools?
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: What are they bringing into the hearts of the innocent, of the most innocent among us, children?
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: And it's always pornography.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: It's desensitizing.
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: What they want to do is and just watch for this.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: They use these labels, these gender ideologies, as a cover to go in and first put kids on puberty blockers, mutilate their bodies, but on a mass scale.
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: They're bringing pornography and it's always about pornography.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: You know, these people are sick.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: There's just sick minds, you know, and I'm not talking about the individual kids that are mixed up and stuff.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the adults in the room and I'm also talking about, you know, these college kids.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: You know, think about the college kids.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: Tom wrote a recent article We'll discuss it today called Safe Spaces, dangerous Schools, and he writes one of the most commonly heard complaints of college students in the last several years is that the institution of higher education that they attend has failed to provide, in quotes, safe spaces for them.
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: Students have complained that they feel unsafe because the professors or fellow students or administrators fail to acknowledge their chosen pronouns, or that their students of color make them feel unsafe in classes or in their dorms.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: They're in dorms with white students, et cetera, et cetera.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: Look what we've done to these minds and these kids.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: They don't think, they've never been taught to think, and so these ideologies that they're learning in elementary school and then in high school, by the time they get into college, they have no minds of their own anymore, no hearts of their own anymore.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: They've just been indoctrinated and they fall for this, you would think.
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: You would think they would latch on to reason, you know, and then their free will to choose the good but unbelievable.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: So, of all of those college kids though and really I feel bad for them they are confused, there's no doubt about it, but at the end of the day, I like to say you know, you guys are just prima donnas.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: You're prima donnas.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: You're 18, 19, 20, 21, 22-year-old kids.
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: Right, you're young adults.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: We were all out living on our own, my brothers and I, by the time we were that age.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: We had to think for ourselves, we had to have practical skills out in the world to make a living, and we didn't have time to be prima donnas and look for safe zones.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, we were out there in the world already.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: But with all of that said, we bring it back.
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: Where is the real unsafe zone?
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: It's in these elementary schools now, and all the way from kindergarten and all the way up into high school.
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: Who's protecting these kids?
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: It should be their parents, it should be the culture, it should be the administrators.
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: It should be the teachers, but it's amazing how we're using and abusing these kids.
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: So, hey, tom and I are going to get into, buckle Up and get ready for today's episode.
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: I'm with my good friend, tom Hampson of the Truth Alliance Foundation.
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: Tom also works with us at the John Paul II Renewal Center on a regular basis, and vice versa.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: We do a number of different types of presentations One, stolen Innocence, where we really speak to what's happening to these youngsters.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: Tom's got an incredible background.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: I've been a crime investigator his whole life.
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: So, tom, you've investigated sex trafficking with kids, child porn and all kinds of things.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: You've seen all kinds of things up front and the last article I was just looking at maybe you want to unpack that a little bit Safe spaces, dangerous schools, where you know you start out talking about, you know, college students looking for safe spaces, but you transition pretty fast to where are the safe spaces for our high school, middle school, elementary school kids that are getting really sexually abused?
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is, tom.
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: You've seen a lot of stuff up front and personal, my friend, but have you ever thought we'd see this on a mass scale?
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a mass sexualization of of children.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: It's amazing we don't kill them in the womb.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: We're going to sexualize them, render them sterile, mutilate their bodies, use and abuse them, and and it and we're trying to wake people up.
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: It's, it's.
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: It's not only not happening, not happening, but we have to address the fact that this is being pushed down from the Biden administration all the way down into your local elementary school and beyond.
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where you want to start with that, tom, but it is something that we're seeing.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem is that this is something that is new in the last 30 years or so, 30 or 40 years, that this is something that's really started exploding, and today it's gotten so bad that 10% of kids that graduate from high school have been victims of educator sexual misconduct sometime between kindergarten and 12th grade.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: 10% that's a huge number by an adult in the school system.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: So we're not talking about just shown porn in school or something.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: We're talking about some actual sexual abuse in one way or another by an adult.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, it isn't necessarily a sexual rape or anything like that, but it's grooming.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: It's basically inappropriate sexual conduct by an educator with a child.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: For example, inappropriate sexual jokes is a grooming technique.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Jokes to to that are is a grooming technique.
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: It would be.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: It might be something like well, there was one.
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: One example that I saw was this teacher was doing a class on zoom with two other students and the teacher accidentally, accidentally, played a porno video for these other two students.
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: So on the Zoom, the porno video is running for a little while before the teacher realized that it was a porno video and he shut it off.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: Well, that case was investigated.
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: They say well, it was just a mistake by the teacher.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: Well, that's not a mistake, a mistake by the teacher.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: Well, that's not a mistake, I don't.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: I don't that that kind of thing was eliminated as one of the examples of some of a educator's sexual misconduct, because they said what's behind it, though?
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, is that teacher that's doing this?
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: Is their intention to take it further, to actually physically sexualize these kids?
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: Or they're just getting off on on, you know, on dirty talk and stuff I mean, or, or you know where?
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: Where is this really heading?
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: In other words, am I just a, you know some kind of a pervert that gets off on?
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: You know telling kids dirty jokes and you know flashing my you know taking my pants off in front of, I mean, what is this?
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: well, or is it?
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: or or would they take it further if they could?
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: In other words, am I sexualizing or grooming a number of kids and just seeing you know who?
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: Actually I can take it further with you, know, do you?
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: Well, you don't know until you look at the individual.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: But the fact is that that if teachers are using children in any way for their own sexual gratification, that's wrong.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: That's not what they're there for.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: They're there to be educated.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who were just showing pornography to somebody else gives them a thrill.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: Our children are not to be used in that manner.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I, I would say, you know, at the end of the day, you know we, we know we're hurting kids and we're we're twisting and distorting their idea of of uh, you know what the beauty of marriage and our sexuality is all about, and this is being, this is being done on a mass scale.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: You know, you say it didn't happen or it wasn't around 30 or 40 years ago, but it was around it's.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: You know, to a certain extent, I mean it, it it happens.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: It happens slowly over a long period of time and then it accelerates.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: And this is what I think we're really seeing, tom.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at the last five years.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: I can't believe how far really, since COVID, four years, how far we've been able to push this it's.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: You know, covid set off a number of, you know, a number of opportunities, I think, for the deviants and the evil to come out into the world.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what's happening.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: We just unle, unleash this and now there's no whole bard.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody is just doing what they want to do to kids well, covid was what gave us a glimpse as to what's going on.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean to suggest that there hasn't been sexual abuse of kids or sexual exploitation of kids until the last 30 or 40 years in schools.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: I'm certain it's been going on for a long time, but there's degrees of it, and what's happened in the last 30 to 40 years is just a collapse of morality.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: We used to have a common morality where, like when I was a kid, teachers couldn't do anything that even gave the appearance that they were being improper.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: A single teacher couldn't go on a trip, but a single female teacher or male teacher couldn't go on a trip with someone of the opposite sex.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: That would be prohibited because that appears to be an improper relationship yeah, and now and now we've taken it to the extent where we're allowing kids of the opposite sex to actually go on field trips and and bunk with you know, people of the opposite sex, if I, if I'm telling them they're trans I mean this is not where we've gone.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: They're going into the same locker rooms come on.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing and so this, this is the, and we're saying that.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: Well, they're a guy or a girl based on what's in their head, not what's on their body, and this is so.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: This has become see, I think this is what's accepted kind of philosophy yeah, so.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: So this is what's kind of changed.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: And the other thing I think that's changed is that we've all lost our moral foundation to the point that, even if we sense that something is wrong here, as an educator you have in your article predators in the education system know all this.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: They know how to play the system.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's what we're talking about here.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: But now other teachers, teachers and administrators the non predators they know this too.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: They also know that 10% or more children in schools will fall victim to educators sexual misconduct by the time they graduate from high school, to your point.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: So why are the non abusive teachers and administrators doing nothing to prevent it?
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: And that's that's another change that we've seen.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: You know, when we've heard this years ago, as a teacher now right or as an educator, you would say something, just as a person you'd say you know you'd stand up for these kids, but but I, you're, they're not doing.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: It's this is what blows my mind.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: What, what you know?
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on that?
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to think about it.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: I part of it is the teachers don't want to lose their jobs.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: Part of it is that the unions are behind this.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: They they don't want.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: They don't want the possibility of a teacher being dismissed based on the appearance of something.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: It has to be an actual, proven incident.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: For example, that teacher in Chicago that showed this video to the two students.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: They were able to get the guy off.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: All he had to do was go to some kind of re-education training for a couple of times and slap on the hand.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: And that was it.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: Well to me, if this had been 40 years ago, the guy would have been gone, because there's no second chance.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: You don't get a second chance when you're dealing with kids.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: If you know, in law enforcement you don't get to accidentally shoot somebody and have nothing happen.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: It's like oh geez, my gun discharged and killed the guy.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: He says well, hey, you know.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Well, hey, that doesn't help.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: You're going to be charged for this.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: It's called negligent discharge.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: It's not accidental discharge.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: So that showing of that film was negligence.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: What's he doing?
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: What's he doing on his school computer anyway?
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Why is there a porn video on his school computer?
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're seeing this I mean you and I when we're speaking.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: I mean they're bringing this porn right into the classrooms.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: They're bringing it in books, videos, all kinds of things.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: When we think again that it's Planned Parenthood and SECAS sex education for social change and Planned Parenthood, whose main business is destroying humanity.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: They're putting sex education standards together and we're bringing this in.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: So this is what's different.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: We're blatantly allowing this to happen.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: We're blatantly, to your point, not reprimanding teachers.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: We're blatantly afraid to stand up against any of this stuff, were blatantly afraid to stand up against any of this stuff.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: And so the LBGTQ agendas, all of these things, these ideologies, are being pushed on our kids.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: And the same thing, to your point, just to stay out of the weeds.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: You know this doesn't belong in the schools.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: None of this belongs in the schools.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: It's just another way to sexualize.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: When we look at the materials, tom and I speak for both of us.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: When we're looking at this material, it's very obvious to us and to me the more I think about it that we're using these LBGTQ almost as a cover for pornography.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Because every one of these books is pornography, in one way or the other right.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's intended to do that.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: It gives them the excuse because then they can say well, we're educating children in the LGBT lifestyle, just like this National Sex Ed Standards, where they're teaching 6th, 7th and 8th graders how to engage in oral and anal sex.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Now there's no reason to be doing that.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: You don't need to have an education.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: You don't need to teach kids how to engage in any kind of sexual activity.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Do you think?
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: No, I mean right.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you think?
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: And so to teach somebody about anal sex and all this stuff is right in the books.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: In sixth grade.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Perfectly normal In sixth grade they're crying out loud.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: It's recommended to 10 old and up.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: You know, speak to that that Dean.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Did you hear what happened to him now at Chicago public school, dean?
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that was recently well, that was the one he.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: He it's alleged that he he's abused this girl for several years and he also has been accused and he's being investigated for getting the girl pregnant twice and force it, forcing her to get an, get abortions both times.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Well, how does that happen?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: How can any teacher have a relationship that results in a pregnant child twice, a twice pregnant child and twice getting an abortion?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: How does that happen that nobody notices that there's something wrong?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: How is he doing this?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: He's not doing it in the school.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: He's got to be going off somewhere alone with this kid, doesn't anybody notice?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look where are the parents at.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Do we know any of those details?
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Do we know where this?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Is right now in the court systems well, he's been charged.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: The the criminal case is under is underway now and there's also, the civil case was just recently filed, okay so how do we know how long ago that that this happened?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: well, it was.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: The criminal case was filed last year, okay, all right, so this is so this is the guy's been.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: The guy's been suspended.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I uh from from the chicago public schools.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: But one of the things that becomes really, really significant in this the protection of children when you realize that 10 of kids are victims of educator sexual misconduct by the time they graduate in the Chicago public schools.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: They have a unique way of investigating these cases.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: They have a unit that's dedicated to investigating child sexual abuse cases and they also have tremendous investigative powers.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And they also have tremendous investigative powers.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: They have the power to subpoena records from the teachers, from other people phone records, financial records.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: They can subpoena anything they want to.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: They can subpoena witnesses.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: The Chicago Public Schools is the only school system that has that power.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: No other school system has it In the United States school system that has that power.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: No other school system has it in the united states.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: If, if a child is now, all schools everywhere have the same percentage of kids that are abused by teachers, it's hit or miss in the rest of the, in the rest of the state, as to how these cases are investigated yeah, and we know look at, we know that that that all these cases are not being reported or recorded, right?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: So there's got to be a lot more cases than even these, right?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So when we say 10%, it could be higher than that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Well, probably not.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: The studies are based not on criminal cases, but based on survey material and also a number of different ways, so it's probably around 10 probably around 10 and that doesn't include abuse that these poor kids are suffering, say, in a home or other places, either you know, and and or suffering by their peers, you know but just think about this the, the oig, last year reported that they concluded 446 investigations of allegations of educator sexual misconduct and that's only in chicago, right?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: That's only in chicago.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Well, that's only a drop in the bucket of the thousands of cases that happened last year in chicago.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: So that's that's nothing compared to the numbers that are actually out there kids being sexually exploited by teachers in the system.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You could catch a lot more if you were looking for people, but the real solution to this problem is to prevent it from happening in the first place, and that prevention starts with limiting who can be teachers.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Predators gravitate to places where kids are.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: These child predators, they go to places where kids are and what's really needed is going back to the days when a person's character, their high morality, determined whether or not they were going to be employed as a teacher.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Morality determine whether or not they were going to be employed as a teacher.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: What, for example, you?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You can be an open wiccan, pansexual and be a teacher in the chicago public schools, because it is a person's right to be that in in the united states.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Why would anybody want their child to be taught by somebody who has a worldview of a pansexual Wiccan?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure pansexual Wiccans want their kids taught that way.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here, here's what I, I mean we, you know, at the end of the day, right now, I, you know, we're out talking about this a lot I don't see that changing.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean the, the.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know what has to happen.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: These schools are are spiraling almost out of control.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: The proficiency standards, you know, the actual education of our kids is going down and we're teaching them how to sexualize themselves, and I think this is just you know.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: You know, on a larger level, it's just the scope of the whole culture today, all our society today, and, and I think you know on a larger level, it's just the scope of the whole culture today, all our society today, and, and I think you know, we're starting to just see this, I think this is kind of getting toward the, the end, where you're just really seeing the, you know the wheels come off of our civilization, so, so.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So I think you're, I mean there's no doubt you're right that we have to hire different teachers, you know.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: But I don't, but I don't see that happening.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: In fact, I see the opposite happening.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I know, and you know, of conservative teachers, the kind that we'd be looking for, actually are getting taken out of the school systems, not put into the school system.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: The same thing are happening in seminaries and in the.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: The guys and the men and women that actually would do a a really good job are being pushed out in a lot of cases.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Well, see, I I think there, I think we need to have, we need to recommend people homeschool their kids, get their kids in private schools, and I think one of the things that can they used to, I don't know, in the old days, when education first started in this country, the community got together and raised money to hire a teacher, and I think that's what's got to happen again.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You've got to go back to saying, hey, we're going to have our private school, we're going to raise money among those of us who want our kids, raised in a healthy environment, to support these, support a teacher that can do it, and I think that's a possible thing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So here's what we're getting at the bottom line and I don't really see any other way to do this is parents are going to have to stuff up.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: There is no knight in shining armor coming to rescue any of us right now.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There's nobody riding in on a big stallion, even if Trump gets back in, which I think would be a positive thing for our country.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Let's face it armor coming to rescue any of us right now.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: No, there's nobody riding on a big stallion, even if trump gets back in, which I think would be a positive thing for our country.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Let's face it, we get some good senators and stuff.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It's the politicians aren't going to solve this this is you can't save the schools.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: No, nobody's going to save the schools.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: The schools are lost yeah, and so the only people, and and and don't forget that it's because parents haven't stepped up to the plate, and I'm generalizing here, but people in general that all this evil is allowed to permeate into our cultures, and, in other words, if enough of us really cared, this wouldn't be happening.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: So what we're looking at, tom, is let's just be clear we're looking at a culture that a lot of people that are living around us are okay with, everything that you're talking about right now.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: They're okay with it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: What's?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the big deal.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: What's the big deal?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I was in an in-service, which is a time to go on.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I was in an elementary school in-service with the teachers, which is a time that you almost give them like a day of we're studying some topics or multiple topics.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: So I in and my topic was to talk to these teachers about these types of things right, the sexualization of kids, what we can do, these are Catholic schools.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And so one of the teachers said Jack, how would you handle this?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: She goes.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I was walking down the hall in school, an eighth grader and was showing another eighth grade boy porn on his phone and I and I said, hey, let's see what you're looking at, right, and he tried to hide it, but I, but I had seen it already and I said come, come with me down to the office, you know.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And he said he said yeah, I'll come down the office.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And she goes.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: You know you're pretty nonchalant about this.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Does this not bother you?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And he goes.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: He goes, what's going to bother me?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: He says you're going to call my dad.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: My dad watches porn.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he didn't care.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And his dad wished watson porn and his dad's not going to care.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: So you know, when the the culture starts to unravel, right.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: So we have these new threats every day, and and I'll just kind of throw this out at you you know what we're seeing, I think.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: The violence on the street, even the gang violence, the abortion, the wars within Asia, mutilation of these poor kids that are, you know, confused about their sexuality, redefining marriage is meaningless, I mean, all of these things break down the moral fiber of a nation, and that's what I think we're seeing today.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Well, it is.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: The morality is what we need to get back to, and the churches aren't stepping up to reestablish that at all.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: It's not happening.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: They're preaching to their own choirs.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They're not preaching to the culture.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Rather than standing up and saying, hey, you guys better get your act together.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You know destroying, you're destroying the culture.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: You're not doing anything to help it yeah, well, you know, right before we came on, you had used the word in a talk at a church on piety, and and what did they tell you?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: What did the church?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: churchy, yeah, it's too churchy, so it was no, it's on purity, it was on purity.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: You can't one of the values.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: One of the one of the one of the prime values is purity.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like you know it's.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: The quote from paul?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Whatever is pure, whatever, yes, what is that thing, thing?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Whatever is pure, whatever is noble, whatever is right, yeah, yeah, whatever.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: What is true, noble, right, pure, lovely or admirable, if anything's excellent, praiseworthy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Think about such things so now, where did they come from?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Do you have the?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Do you have the?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: yeah, it's yes, philippians 4, 8, okay isn't that something right?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: so we've lost.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: We've lost that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Jason jones said on a recent show of of mine uh, speaking about this stuff.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: He said the moral imagination of our young people has been utterly obliterated by these things we're talking about, and and pornography, he said.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He said their moral imagination has been destroyed by tiktok, youtube, facebook, instagram reels and are just becoming addicted.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: They're addicts now.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Humans learn through watching other people.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: We learn what to they value, we learn what's important.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And he said just scroll through any of those social media apps and imagine what they're learning about and it's utterly catastrophic.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Obliterating the idea of gender is devastating.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So these poor kids are getting it in the school.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: The parents aren't standing up to the plate.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: They're getting on social media.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Getting it in the school, the parents aren't standing up to the plate, they're getting on social media.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: They're a lost generation.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: The solution now for anybody that's listening that wants to bury their head, it's not that complicated.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: We have a seminar that we do for very, very busy people called Love Ed, and this is for very busy families, very busy parents.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: We come in and we actually present with you and your child in fifth grade and seventh grade and then beyond, the beauty of love, the beauty of our sexuality, the biology, the theology behind it, and we also.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Part of it is bonding with your parents because, like we said, the hero in this story is going to be the parents.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: The hero are these young parents that are going to step up to the plate.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: So the hero is you.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: The hero and and you and I, tom are are a little older.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: So we back up those heroes and give them the support that they need, and give them the training that they need and and and be there on the front lines for them until they step up to the plate.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: But we we're not going to be able to hold it too much longer if they don't start stepping up, brother well, you know that's.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: My wife and I were watching that mini series on john adams last night and at one point one of the we were watching the one last night right before john adams went to france to to work with the french to get them to help us in the revolution, and he took his son, john Quincy Adams, with him.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: His son was 13.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And his mother told him.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: She says look.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: She says remember, god will judge you on everything you say and everything you do.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: You know it is, it is.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And he says yes, I know, you know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I know Nobody knows that anymore Nobody pays any attention or have any concern about what they do or say based on what God's going to think of them or what God's going to do in the future.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It seems like everybody before World War II, virtually everybody was concerned about things that were spiritual and they were concerned about being on the right side of God, and today it's like nobody is concerned about it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And that's a good way to conclude this episode, because men have forgotten God, right?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: That's Alexander Sholzhenitsyn's favorite line, right?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: He came here after getting out of the gulags, escaping the Soviet Union, and he was given these series of talks called the Templeton Talks, and that's one of the topics.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He said men have forgotten God.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And here's what he said too, and I'm just paraphrasing.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: But he said never through history has this ever happened before.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: But again, that's gone back a couple of generations ago, right, so it happened slowly and then it accelerated, and this is what we're seeing now.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I think we're seeing again because of COVID, somehow, in some mysterious way, we saw this all over the world that this evil has been unleashed.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: And the only good news about all this, tom, I think, is the weeds in the weed are standing pretty clearly.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Now you can pick out a little easier today than I think, probably ever before, where you stand on the side of evil.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: You know it's, it's it's becoming more and more clear.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You know, less people are lukewarm and more people are either just fallen by the wayside in apathy, you know, and, and basically they lose their courage, they lose their moral fortitude, and this is, this is what happens.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: You have a country.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You know who was it?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: It wasn't Adams, I don't think.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Who was it that said here I leave you a republic, if you can hold it Right, if you can hold it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It was at Madison, maybe right, or maybe Washington, you know, I give you a real no, I think it was Adams.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe it was Ben Franklin.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was Ben Franklin, maybe it was maybe Franklin, I think it was Ben Franklin that said that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So it says what did you create?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: It says a republic, if you can keep it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: If you can keep it, and it's only suited to a moral and religious people.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Now Adams said that, yes, yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Adams added that Now Reagan would say that not so long ago, right, reagan said we're only one generation away from losing our democracy, our republic, you know, and so he understood that very well.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You can't have a republic, can't have, you can't have the kind of government we have, unless the people are immoral people and we are becoming a completely immoral society.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And no, and there is so little concern about the, about the decline of our morality.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: It's bork wrote that book, slouching toward demora I haven't.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't read it yet.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you read it?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is it good?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: oh, yeah it's, good.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true, I haven't got to know, you're just absolutely declining toward a completely depraved culture.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good note to leave people on right.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: You know, stand up.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Well, people have a chance to turn it around.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a win-win situation if you do, because, just like the young John Quincy Adams, when you say yes to God, you're really saving your eternal soul.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: My friends and this world like John and St Paul would say both this world is passing by very quickly and before you know it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You know, and he said, the world's passing by and the lust of it, and so this has been going on for a long time.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: The world's passing by and the lust of it, and so this has been going on for a long time.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: It's just it never been in generations this decadent.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: You know, to this point, you know.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So, hey, buckle up.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, my friend.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, thomas, good to be with you.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Thanks everybody, thanks for joining.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Talk to you later.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye, thank you.