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- 1:20And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast along with my
- 1:23partner Brian Siegler and Jonathan Talley, I'm Curtis
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- 2:06on the Moray. So the spring game has passed.
- 2:14The spring game is sprung. And sprung, Brian went there.
- 2:18I hope some of y'all, I hope some of y'all watched the
- 2:23pregame show. Brian, you were vibes, dude.
- 2:27Straight vibes. Hey man, you know what?
- 2:30It was great weather. I had to, I had, I had to get
- 2:33the guns out. I had to let everybody know what
- 2:34was going on and, and we talked a little football and we had
- 2:39some good food. Shout out Steven Wright, Nate
- 2:42Fullen, great host for that event on Chicken Hill.
- 2:46You appreciate everybody that that joined the table there and
- 2:50talked up a little hokey sports, a little hokey football before
- 2:53they kick things off. And you know, we saw a a
- 2:56skydiving fiasco. It was a it was a great it was a
- 3:00great time. And like I said the the event
- 3:04went really well and appreciate everyone that showed up, came to
- 3:07talk to us, hung out with us before we got going live, stuck
- 3:11around after, had some good food, had some good drinks and a
- 3:14lot of them walked over to the stadium with us.
- 3:20Very cool, Very cool. Tally.
- 3:24Oh, do we lose tally? We might have lost tally.
- 3:29Fucking Internet. Yeah, obvious.
- 3:32We'll. Get after you guys just.
- 3:34We'll get after. We'll try to.
- 3:35Think if you think about moving Alabama, make sure you get them
- 3:39that that that Internet settle before you get in there.
- 3:42Tally, can you hear us? He's, we're just going to
- 3:47continue to put these up. Tally, what you got to say, man?
- 3:51Did you get to Did you get out the pregame show with Brian and
- 3:54Alden, Muggleheads? He must not be hearing us.
- 4:01Can you hear us? Tally shoot him a message all
- 4:08right, so he is off somebody jumped in give us a few seconds
- 4:14here We got to talk about a couple things and then we're
- 4:16going to let y'all talk give us a second don't if if you want to
- 4:19jump in that's fine just it it might be a few minutes before we
- 4:22put it on it's going to. Be a couple minutes, about about
- 4:253:00 to 4:00. We're just going to get the the
- 4:27introductions, the the salutations out of the way.
- 4:30We got Tally back in here. Prize drinking buddies back in
- 4:34town. It's a shame he didn't get to go
- 4:37drink with him last weekend, but Tally, did you get to see Brian
- 4:41and all the knuckleheads on the pregame show?
- 4:44Yeah, man, I I got to watch it looks like they was having a
- 4:47good time. I was jealous.
- 4:49So Brian was definitely feeling good, tearing them up, turning
- 4:54them back. He didn't use the F word that
- 4:58much though, so he did. Pretty good.
- 4:59I think I I was down to two this year.
- 5:01I was down. That's pretty good.
- 5:04I did. I did sneak in a whale's vagina
- 5:06at the end. So, you know, that's not because
- 5:09somebody told they, they told me where Billy was for his birthday
- 5:12and they said he's in San Diego. And I mean, I'm not going to let
- 5:15that. You can't reference.
- 5:17Go by the wayside. Got to get it, got to get it,
- 5:20got to get it. But Tally, like me, we were both
- 5:24on the baseball fields for most of the day.
- 5:27Stream Spring game, not even stream.
- 5:30So we are depending on Brian y'all, I'll be honest, I've been
- 5:35so busy between work and everything.
- 5:37I've been trying to listen to a few podcasts, folks who went, I
- 5:40know like Ricky would from Hokey Hangover and some of those guys
- 5:43were out there, Tech Cylon, obviously out there.
- 5:46I ain't even got to do that yet. So I am really like, I'm not
- 5:51saying struggling, but I'm trying to catch up as much as I
- 5:53can with Spring game before we get into the Spring game.
- 5:57And yes, somebody has already joined.
- 5:59If you want to join that little QR code right up there, click on
- 6:03it. I don't know if Brian's going to
- 6:04pick one in the chat. Yeah, I'll be right.
- 6:09Now use that QR code. That's going to be the best way
- 6:12to get on there. That's going to take you
- 6:14straight to the link, baby. You'll be able to join us here
- 6:17jump in have a good time talk a little spring game.
- 6:22I'm hoping some of y'all got to check it out, whether even if
- 6:24you weren't able to make it in Blacksburg, got to look at it,
- 6:27you know a. Little bit it won't.
- 6:29It won't anywhere, that's the issue.
- 6:32I thought they had it on extra. Nope.
- 6:36It got kiboshed. Oh man.
- 6:37It got kiboshed at the end. They're going to do like some 45
- 6:41minute special. Not a fan of that.
- 6:44That was a pivot because like as of Thursday last week, it was
- 6:47still on. They had it.
- 6:49On the schedule. It sure as hell was all right.
- 6:52Well, before we start bringing people in here to get their
- 6:56thoughts on spring game, what they like, maybe what they don't
- 6:58like, we got a couple pieces of news here.
- 7:03Tally. I think you, I think you will
- 7:05this into existence. But Joseph Buck Buchanan, the
- 7:09four-star out of McDonough High School up in Owens Mill,
- 7:13Maryland, a top 247 player, a top 200 play, about 247 elite,
- 7:22elite defensive lineman, has committed 63 and a half, 260.
- 7:28Some people got him at 270 and is a big boy.
- 7:35What y'all think? Of him maintain and he maintains
- 7:38that he is a defensive end. He is not AD tackle.
- 7:43So he has been loud and proud about that and I'm all right
- 7:47with that. So again, haven't started seeing
- 7:52quite, you know the results. I think we're going to see just
- 7:56because when you start looking at high profile kids, sometimes
- 7:59it takes them you know, a little bit to jump into the boat.
- 8:02But to have the activity that we have to have, the visits that we
- 8:07have, the people on campus over and over that we've been having,
- 8:12it's a testament to the staff and the testament to James
- 8:14Franklin, what he's what he's doing.
- 8:17I do got to say I got my boy Will on here.
- 8:18If y'all don't know Will, man, y'all go follow Will.
- 8:20That's my guy. His wife's birthday maybe today
- 8:24or just past, but I see. Yeah, I know he said happy
- 8:29birthday to Lindsay. So.
- 8:30We. Do want to shout out?
- 8:32Yeah, we want to shout out. Happy birthday to my girl
- 8:34Lindsay and Will again. It's like family to me man.
- 8:39Always a good time being Will and hung out a couple times.
- 8:42He shows nothing but love to your boy.
- 8:43Nothing but love to BCP. So I did send you the link Will
- 8:49so you can hop on here and let us know kind of how you feeling.
- 8:51I know we going to hear from Phil.
- 8:53We got to hear from Phil and before we go forward, Curtis,
- 8:56I'm going to tell you this right here.
- 8:58I have been looking at games in Blacksburg and Airbnb's.
- 9:05It's ridiculous. 11 Airbnb it said 20 I think it said like 20
- 9:12yards from Wayne Stadium $2000. I thought it would be caught up
- 9:16in sleeping on the. Floor somewhere, by the way,
- 9:19Brian, I was. Going to tell you, I'll announce
- 9:21it over there. There have been discussions that
- 9:25some of the cruise crew and the ones behind us, the techs behind
- 9:30us, we might be, we are, we are, we are potentially going Georgia
- 9:36Tech. Like we told y'all, we said it
- 9:38right, we're Ted, Georgia Tech. Then we say that Tally, it's the
- 9:41perfect game there. There is, there is preliminary
- 9:45multiple families going down for that weekend getting something
- 9:50somewhere. So if we're going, we're going
- 9:53to get there, we're going to figure it out.
- 9:55Tally's locking back up because there's one other thing anything
- 10:00on Buck real quick, because I mean, he's.
- 10:03I mean, absolute stud, I mean, we talk about a guy that's
- 10:06that's that size, you know, regardless of where he ends up
- 10:10position wise for Virginia Tech, he's going to go out there and
- 10:13he's going to eat because the the dude is is big.
- 10:18He's quick, you know, does does the little things right even,
- 10:23you know, as a high school player.
- 10:25So like when you put those pieces together, he's going to
- 10:27be a tough guy to stop and a tough guy to keep off the field
- 10:30right away in my opinion. 100% Tally, you had been, you had,
- 10:35you had texted me and Brian say I'm going to get a list of like
- 10:39all the guys visiting and Tally, tell me what happened as you
- 10:44started making your list. It's too.
- 10:49It was too much, man. I got overwhelmed.
- 10:51I got what's the word that everybody's using now?
- 10:53I got overstimulated. I got overstimulated that.
- 10:58Many. Find out all the people that
- 11:01they had coming in. So y'all's job today chat is to
- 11:06tell us what y'all seen while y'all was there.
- 11:10From a couple of people that I heard, they said they had
- 11:13commits lined up on the field, you know, lined up down there,
- 11:17probably the biggest they've seen in a while or maybe ever.
- 11:23This was from a couple of season ticket holders.
- 11:25So I want to hear about it, man. I want to hear kind of what the
- 11:29boots on the ground, seen, smell, tasted, all of that good
- 11:33stuff. And so to do that, what y'all
- 11:37going to do? Hit that little QR code at the
- 11:39top and it'll take you straight in here with us.
- 11:44We're going to try to cycle you in as fast as we can.
- 11:46We got, you know, some people you know already waiting here.
- 11:48So we're going to, if you want to Curtis, we ready, we can go
- 11:52ahead and kick off. Well, let's let's say one more
- 11:54thing. We hit it up to a second, the
- 11:56parachute thing. Just see, I got multiple videos
- 12:00from people, not me and Brian. They got that.
- 12:04That was wild like and now reading the story, basically I'm
- 12:11a I'm a butcher's name. Y'all know me doing that right?
- 12:15Y'all put me in charge of this Pasha Falanker, obviously
- 12:18military veteran everything. And doing this a while the story
- 12:21coming out that basically the wind shifted so hard that like
- 12:24it was he had two choices. Either he was and again, my
- 12:28assumption Brian is because of where he was, he was probably
- 12:31going to go into North End zone is my assumption.
- 12:35And instead, he tried to clear the scoreboard, hit the practice
- 12:39field, Everybody that knows is right there behind lane, and he
- 12:42nailed the store. Luckily, he's OK.
- 12:45No one else was hurt. James Franklin had some weird
- 12:48happen. But I mean, he came out real
- 12:50positive. He was like, you know, there's
- 12:51been times I love what he said in his pressure.
- 12:55I've set through three hour delays.
- 12:56Weird stuff has happened in games.
- 12:59Having something like that happen is perfect.
- 13:01Like because you don't get a chance to talk through that
- 13:02stuff right? Y'all both play where they've
- 13:04been like lightning lightning. I mean, think about going back
- 13:07to the Purdue game, like nobody got ready for that.
- 13:10Like this situation where you know, you've got all this juice
- 13:14in the locker room and now all of a sudden you got to go out
- 13:17there later than you expect. Like you got to hold that juice
- 13:21in. You got to hold that juice in
- 13:22for another 30-40 fifty minutes before they, you know, they were
- 13:24able to get them down and get things, you know, set up for the
- 13:27game. It's it's a good way to kind of
- 13:33execute that without any stakes attached to it.
- 13:36So I mean it, it could be a blessing disguise.
- 13:38Everybody says this is this open?
- 13:40I'm like, man, we've been known for, for an entrance and not
- 13:43much else. You know, it's I, I think we're,
- 13:47we're maybe getting the monkey off our back here a little bit
- 13:49with this thing and, you know, we're going to keep it moving.
- 13:52Let's keep it moving. Let's get some folks in here
- 13:55again, hit the QR code. Whether you went to the spring
- 14:00game, you didn't go, you've been following it close Things you're
- 14:04excited about, things you noticed at the game, maybe
- 14:06questions you've got. And we got our first in here,
- 14:09Big Willy Beeman, who I see this.
- 14:12What up? Listen.
- 14:14What's going on, man? My dog's losing his fucking
- 14:17mind, but outside of that I'm good.
- 14:19How y'all? Hey man, happy birthday.
- 14:22To Lindsay. To Lindsay, sitting next.
- 14:25To you, What's going on, Lindsay?
- 14:28Just living my best life at 33 guys, just trying.
- 14:31To keep. Up with y'all.
- 14:33Hey, let it RIP, let it RIP. 33. How's life boys?
- 14:39Y'all recover from the spring game yet?
- 14:40Happy birthday. Happy birthday.
- 14:44Hey, I'm, I've, I've fully recovered.
- 14:47I had a all day conference today.
- 14:49So that'll that'll that'll get the alcohol out of your system
- 14:53real quick. Real quick now you know what?
- 14:56I missed the whole thing. I was down here.
- 14:57I was at the RBC Heritage golf tournament.
- 14:59I wish I could have been up there, but I had to host
- 15:02clients. You know that shit goes.
- 15:03But you know what I need is some highlights.
- 15:06Please Sir, someone. Not not a problem.
- 15:10It's nothing out there will. Dude, the RC shit that I'm
- 15:15looking at with the badass angles is not doing it, no.
- 15:19There is, so there is that. Everybody.
- 15:21There is currently really nothing out there.
- 15:23So we're depending on eyes like Brian and other folks who went
- 15:27to the game. And I mean, I've already bugged
- 15:29shit out, Brian. We're getting together here in
- 15:32my neighborhood on Thursday night to watch the draft.
- 15:35I'm going to bug the shit out of them even more about who what he
- 15:37saw. But well, let's just get your
- 15:39thing, man. You, you clearly you follow
- 15:41everything pretty close. And just what you've heard come
- 15:44out or just what you've been following.
- 15:47What what is it? What's giving you Jack?
- 15:48You know, first of all, I think it's 6:00.
- 15:50You got to go to the RBC Heritage because that's.
- 15:52Disgusting. Every year we do it.
- 15:54By the way, you boys are all invited next year.
- 15:56I got tickets for all of y'all. That's how we roll dawg.
- 16:03We don't walk around. That shit is way too hot boy.
- 16:06And then? That.
- 16:08Means that's one way. To do it.
- 16:12Hey, man. Hey.
- 16:13So what's what's exciting? Me man 2 that we can pass the
- 16:17ball and hopefully we can stop the pass.
- 16:19Honestly, we get those two things fixed from last year's
- 16:22team. What's our record last year in
- 16:25y'all's honest opinion? If we fix those.
- 16:29Yeah, those two things and nothing else.
- 16:31Just last year we were seven and five minimum with that roster, 7
- 16:36and five that roster. Mr. Talley.
- 16:42Yeah, I would say at least seven wins, you know, then that takes
- 16:45you to a bowl game and see what you can do so.
- 16:47Ryan's about to say 10. Watch him.
- 16:49No, I'm not going to go 10. I'm not going to go 10.
- 16:51I mean, I think 7 or 8 would be would be legitimate because I
- 16:54mean the biggest thing. Like.
- 16:56We we weren't efficient pass the ball.
- 16:59Like regardless of whether we were hitting explosives or not,
- 17:02we were not efficient passing the ball.
- 17:03We were hovering right around 50% completion for most of the
- 17:07year. Last year we weren't throwing
- 17:09the ball a lot at all. It was a time the.
- 17:12Fact that those numbers were that low with that few attempts
- 17:16was kind of wild and the all of the line was a big problem.
- 17:20Obviously we saw, you know, inefficiency at the quarterback
- 17:22position, but on the other side, that cornerback room was already
- 17:28a problem before the season started.
- 17:30You go one man down after pride goes down and.
- 17:33All of a sudden, huh? You said pride, Clark.
- 17:38That's what I'm. Saying when Pry got fired, we
- 17:41lost one to the portal immediately.
- 17:44We had a quarterback, one of our starter starting quarterbacks
- 17:47all of a sudden is in the portal for a unit that was already thin
- 17:51and not playing at the level we needed them to.
- 17:53So it it got ugly pretty quick. And I mean, you talked about a,
- 17:57you know, true freshman like JoJo Crimmin.
- 17:59There was kind of, you know, holding his own respective to
- 18:02kind of everybody else on the roster last year.
- 18:05Without a question, I I can't wait to see Joshua Clark this
- 18:08year. I think he's that.
- 18:10I don't want to use the word D'Angelo Clark, but damn, he's
- 18:13that type type of athlete, right?
- 18:17I think. I, I think he's, he's got the,
- 18:20he's got the build, he's got the size that you want, the athletic
- 18:25abilities off the chart. You know, if he, if he cleans up
- 18:28a couple things, I think he could be a really talented
- 18:30player. And hopefully the energy for
- 18:32what's it Jack? Chuck was white.
- 18:35I'm not getting that wrong. He looks like he he's Nick, but
- 18:38it doesn't look like it's a it's a long term thing.
- 18:42Yeah, we saw. Tweeted out today, tweeted out
- 18:44today. Blessed and everything and you
- 18:46know typically what you hear from guys who get banged up, but
- 18:50it's like you just ain't going to be able to do anything in the
- 18:54next six weeks you're going to have.
- 18:55To deal with I'll. Add to this, I'm actually from
- 18:58what I've heard from everyone, the linebackers look improve
- 19:02from last year. I saw you also, Brian on the was
- 19:06AACC network show, something like that.
- 19:09Yeah, yeah. Oh, Mr. Popular over here.
- 19:12I see you. Yeah.
- 19:15We did, we did that. We did that Monday morning.
- 19:19You popped out there today. That was a good time kind of
- 19:23recapping everything a little more big picture perspective
- 19:26just to kind of how things were. You know what I saw what I what
- 19:29I felt, I mean, it was it was a good time.
- 19:33Yeah. It's it's going to be
- 19:34interesting to see if this if this team can stay healthy with
- 19:39some of this new depth in there. Yeah, AC CS not really trending
- 19:43up outside of Miami. I think there's some opportunity
- 19:49for us. Just be physical, be fast, man.
- 19:52Play like a hair's on fire this year.
- 19:54That's what I want to see. Everything else I think will
- 19:56take care of itself in my opinion.
- 20:00It's true. And having a guy that can pull
- 20:02the trigger like Grunt can, and I think that's going to pay
- 20:06dividends. You know, the thing that I like
- 20:08the most watching him play is that he understands how to work
- 20:13in the offense. He was quick with getting
- 20:15getting rid of the football, getting it where it needed to
- 20:17be. That alone is going to take care
- 20:20of a lot of the problems because you're you're making those
- 20:22decisions quick before the rush can get to you.
- 20:26And that's going to open up things in the passing game.
- 20:27That's going to open up things for the tight end.
- 20:29And if you can pass the ball effectively, you're not going to
- 20:31have stacked boxes like we saw all year last.
- 20:33Year yeah. And you said that Brian, you
- 20:35you've mentioned a lot of quick hitters, a lot of quick out,
- 20:37quick out, quick out and every and and and and some people get
- 20:42upset about that. But if you get it out quick and
- 20:45guys, the whole goal is get it in guys hands who can make
- 20:49plays. And I don't care if that's a
- 20:51running back. I don't care if it's a tight end
- 20:52or a wide receiver. Get it where they can make a
- 20:55play standing back there and taking seven step drops unless
- 21:00you are any elite quarterback. Could Gronk and Meyer get there?
- 21:03Maybe. But you also have to have right
- 21:06tally. You got to have a line that can
- 21:07actually hold up for more than a second and a half.
- 21:11Like the honest truth. If anybody tells me like, we
- 21:14think Gronk and Meyer would have made this team like, 10 wins
- 21:17last year, no, he wouldn't have. No.
- 21:20Yeah, he would have. Yeah.
- 21:23Well, we got to run off. Like Matt Moore made that
- 21:26comment earlier this year, right?
- 21:28Well, we weren't as bad as we thought we were at that
- 21:31position, right, based on who we had a quarterback.
- 21:34And that's no no drag on Kyron at all.
- 21:37Love that dude. I think he played his hard out,
- 21:38right? But he was designed to be a
- 21:41certain type of player. He is not Jalen Hurts.
- 21:44It's much in comparisons that people want to make to that He
- 21:47does not see the field the way he needs to.
- 21:49He's got the arm strength for it, but then the freaking day
- 21:53you got to get the ball where it needs to be at the time it needs
- 21:55to be there, correct? That's true.
- 21:58That's it, That's it. And.
- 21:59And so so my thing was. Like he was running with
- 22:01Montgomery. Like timing is everything.
- 22:04Correct. And I'm not even put all that on
- 22:06on Kyron, honestly, part of his part of his offense, part of
- 22:10it's the the online part of it, it's it's it all plays a factor.
- 22:13And that's my whole thing is like this year.
- 22:15I just want to see a unit. I don't care if it's, you know,
- 22:19a plus or a -, b plus, call what you want, man.
- 22:22Just show me something that's efficient for what you can be.
- 22:27And I think, I think this year we're going to see, I don't
- 22:30know, I go 8 and four, nine. Part of me would say 930 but I'm
- 22:35getting funky. I got to see.
- 22:38If we see 8. That'd be nice.
- 22:40I, I just want to see eight that would, that would tell me that's
- 22:42a good start. And you start doing that in the
- 22:46ACC, you're only one or two wins away from, you know, back in
- 22:50that ACC tournament. Man.
- 22:53It's true, it's very true. And that's the that that that is
- 22:57the thing like right now, because I haven't seen anything
- 23:01and, and, and maybe I mean, no, we haven't.
- 23:04You're. The only one who saw.
- 23:05Anything so like I can't I can't ramp up like to 10 yet yeah
- 23:14maybe maybe a few drinks and reports out of training camp
- 23:18coming in. Maybe I can cause y'all know I
- 23:21can get stupid like that. Chad is like.
- 23:24I'll be right back. I'll be right there with you,
- 23:26Curtis. I get stupid real quick.
- 23:28That's. The hope that is the opium that
- 23:30happens. Oh, I believe that.
- 23:31I believe we all get stupid real quick when it comes to hearing
- 23:35things and then obviously seeing games and all that stuff, but
- 23:39what, what else? What else will we got?
- 23:41We got Kent who's jumped in the the green room here.
- 23:44What else, man? Honestly, I don't think there is
- 23:49much else if we can pass the ball and stop the pass and and
- 23:51do everything else we did last year, which I mean, look at even
- 23:56if the talent isn't excellent, right?
- 23:58It's an upgrade from last year without question.
- 24:00I think we can almost all agree on that from a size and speed
- 24:03standpoint. If the linebackers are filling
- 24:05the gaps like Brian says he thinks they are, I'm OK.
- 24:09I'm OK. It looked, it looked much
- 24:12cleaner. It looked much cleaner.
- 24:13I know we're running a vanilla offense against that defense
- 24:16right now. You know, if, if we get some
- 24:18more misdirection in there, things could be different.
- 24:20But linebackers look decisive. They, they were where they
- 24:24needed to be, especially the guys that, you know, I, I think
- 24:27we're going to see the most of at that position.
- 24:31Safeties did what they needed to do to help it run support.
- 24:35There wasn't a whole lot of missed angles from kind of the
- 24:39front two guys, you know, we saw a couple, but some of that was
- 24:43just, you know, Overton being Overton and getting a little bit
- 24:46of an alley and and making some things happen.
- 24:49But. Speaking of which, before I get
- 24:50off because I know you got other callers, can we get Overton in a
- 24:53different number, Callie? Oh God damn bro 16 you don't.
- 24:59Like the 16? You don't like the, you don't.
- 25:01Like the teams on the running back?
- 25:03Single digits or 20s? He no, he needs the single digit
- 25:07or 20s period. I was going to say 32 but I was
- 25:11like Nah, fuck that. I think we're do have, I think
- 25:15we're do have an 11 at running back.
- 25:17I think we're due for that. 1111. 11.
- 25:21That's a tough one to get up. What you got to say, Tally?
- 25:27He don't care as long as he can fucking gain. 44 What about 44?
- 25:33At running back. Hey, listen, that's Rigo's
- 25:35number, man. That's white running back all
- 25:38the time. Give it to him.
- 25:40You run like Riggins did. Sure.
- 25:42Yeah. Give it to anybody that's not
- 25:44your back, that's not your back for that.
- 25:46Give him Brandon. He he runs more like hell than
- 25:49fucking Riggins bro. We we going to give Gray
- 25:51Peterson 44. Give Gray Peterson No, no, no,
- 25:55hold on, Hold on. Can't hold on with us.
- 25:57We've had to have a real nasty conversation.
- 25:59Listen, 34 is Ryan Williams and nobody ever ran like that.
- 26:04He can't have 34. But if he.
- 26:05Can't have 34 if he does again the shoes are big that have to
- 26:12be filled to run in like 34. Agreed, 2522 What?
- 26:18I'm saying bro, how much didn't you think he weighed last year,
- 26:21190? He's put on, he's put on.
- 26:24Some weight. And he was popping kids.
- 26:26I saw there was times last year and I was shocked by it, where
- 26:29he his skinny ass would go to that gap and put a shoulder down
- 26:33and run through people. And I was like damn, what a fuck
- 26:3590. That's what's going to do with.
- 26:37210. That's mentality that you, you
- 26:40run like that. That's mentality.
- 26:42That's not size or feel like you run over people.
- 26:44That's mentality. Like you don't know I'm here,
- 26:47you going to know I'm coming through.
- 26:49So yeah. Earn that paycheck.
- 26:52Earn damn right, Earn the paycheck.
- 26:54We get to say that nowadays. That's right, that's right.
- 26:57Hey Will, I appreciate you, man. We're going.
- 26:59We're going to get Ken in here. All love, brother.
- 27:02Happy birthday to Lindsay. Y'all have a good?
- 27:04Night, birthday, Lindsay. Thanks, guys.
- 27:06We'll see you soon, man. We'll kind of set a lot there.
- 27:11I I really appreciate what he had to say on that.
- 27:14Sorry we couldn't get Kent, can't go in there.
- 27:18Straightened out yeah, something with the and and it can happen.
- 27:21Stream Yard can if if you can't get the audio connected, like
- 27:27you won't be able to hear us and then that massive delay.
- 27:30I, I it's like 15 second delay. It's like radio delay.
- 27:33You don't even remember that. We're having multiple issues
- 27:38here, Brian with Stream Yard 276 was going to jump up in here for
- 27:42a second. Well, broke it.
- 27:46Well, it's your fault. I love you, but you broke Stream
- 27:49yard for Lindsay's birthday. Ron, you technical man.
- 28:00I'm I will drop the link in the chat in case if if y'all can
- 28:03join from the. That way.
- 28:06Yeah, we can try it that way. Hang on just a second, there is
- 28:10arguments. Let me grab that link.
- 28:18Well, if the link's messed up, Brian, we just me and Tally just
- 28:21going to ask you questions the rest of the night and you got to
- 28:23tell us what happened. Well, we know, we know the tight
- 28:28ends cost a whole bunch of passes.
- 28:30Holy God, all of them. All of them Tally.
- 28:35I was doing the math and I forgot about Saint Germain. 16
- 28:39catches for almost 200 yards amongst those four and those are
- 28:43the primary 4 from from what Brian told us and what
- 28:49everybody's saying Luke Luke Reynolds we we got him one year
- 28:53y'all this is the only year we going to have him I'm going to
- 28:56make a bet on that in my line let's.
- 29:01Let's make the most of it. On my line.
- 29:03All right, we got Justin. Let's see if Justin's works.
- 29:08Is it working? It is working, I just got to
- 29:11give me a second to figure out which one to mute.
- 29:16Mute whatever you're listening to us all because then it's a 15
- 29:19second delay because I've had that happen before trying to
- 29:23share links to. People, I can hear you and I
- 29:25can't hear anything else, so that's a good sign.
- 29:27That is a damn. Right.
- 29:27I think Justin doing good. Yeah, you good?
- 29:30Yeah, I had this. I've been.
- 29:31I've been here. Before SO I remember what this
- 29:33was like. So Justin, first of all, did you
- 29:36make the spring yet? I did not make the spring game,
- 29:38man. Like family things kind of took
- 29:41precedent. Kind of like you had the ball
- 29:43games to go coach. I had other things, but I tried
- 29:47everything I could to find any information I could get and the
- 29:51only thing that was on the Internet was the guy running
- 29:53into the the Jumbotron with the parachute.
- 29:57Haven't been there. And knowing what was underneath
- 29:59him, I know that all the angles from inside the stadium looked
- 30:02like, Oh, well, he just dropped right down into the into the
- 30:05bleachers. And I was like, no, it's 100
- 30:08foot drop right down. It's 100 foot drop and there's
- 30:10like there's a fence right below you.
- 30:12Yeah. It.
- 30:15Also, I do, I do think it's interesting that Blacksburg, it
- 30:18took two ladder trucks to get him down, but I'm glad they were
- 30:20able to get him down without it being a disaster.
- 30:23I. Understand.
- 30:25I. So.
- 30:26I'll go to what we talked with Will because we know Justin, you
- 30:29followed closely. Listen, listen, read as much as
- 30:32you can. Extract what's got you excited,
- 30:35what's got you happy. What for?
- 30:39Well, just after spring, post spring, whatever we want to call
- 30:42it. We got a quarterback that's not
- 30:45afraid to pull the trigger. So like, I haven't seen a whole
- 30:49lot, but I mean, I just been reading.
- 30:51I think there's a big, I think we already, it's fair to say we
- 30:53know who number 1 is and can feel pretty good that should
- 30:58something happened to him that there's a number 2.
- 31:01And then I think it's a drop off after that.
- 31:04I do think that Hewn was brought back down to earth a little bit
- 31:10from that scrimmage where they were saying he had 4 touchdowns
- 31:13and was slinging around like a gunslinger.
- 31:16So he, he's a true freshman and, and he needs to, he needs to be
- 31:21a true freshman. Learn right?
- 31:24It showed. It showed.
- 31:27We got a Q B1 and that's that's not afraid to throw the ball.
- 31:32From what I've been hearing on from different things tech
- 31:35sideline and other people that were there was that is that
- 31:39Gronk is the real deal and we're going to use the tight ends
- 31:44finally. Yeah.
- 31:47Can I, can I put Brian a question real quick?
- 31:50And then it's about grunk just because obviously if y'all Brian
- 31:53was there live saw it. What was the difference like
- 31:58when you you watched all four of them play?
- 32:00Yes, I know he might have been slightly inaugurated, but
- 32:03Brian's slightly inebriated. Still better than about 95% of
- 32:06people when it comes to football, but.
- 32:09What? We might be underselling it, but
- 32:11yes. No I'm not underselling it.
- 32:13We used to get craft based still correct.
- 32:15We used to get blasted in college.
- 32:17If he could still be like so and so didn't pull right, like like
- 32:21what Brian slapped over there and like now the guard, he just
- 32:26missed. He just missed the block.
- 32:27I'm like, so that LeBron, what was the difference, man?
- 32:31Like what was the biggest difference between Gronk and the
- 32:34other 3? You know, like I, I said it
- 32:37before, but you know, this is a guy from an offensive
- 32:40perspective of what we're doing schematically, he's coming in on
- 32:44second base compared to everybody else because he knows
- 32:48what this is all about. He knows where to go with the
- 32:50football. He is decisive with the
- 32:55football. I think it's the biggest thing.
- 32:57And, and, and some of that comes with comfort in the offense And
- 33:00some of that's just, you know, he's he's a guy that has already
- 33:03been thrown into the fire and has shown just that innate
- 33:06ability to get the football where it needs to be so you can
- 33:10keep matriculating the ball down the field.
- 33:12And that efficiency is what jumped off the screen for me and
- 33:16jumped off the page. And when I was watching, watched
- 33:19everything live, like he just knew what he was doing with the
- 33:23football and where he wanted to go with the football.
- 33:30That's it. That's.
- 33:32And if you can mix in some explosives with that, being able
- 33:35to get the ball down the field of the wide receivers, which
- 33:38they didn't really, you know, especially the in the first
- 33:41half, they weren't taking that many shots down the field with
- 33:43anybody. But one of the things we saw
- 33:46back in the offense is, you know, hitting the tight end up
- 33:49the scene. You know, those quick outs to
- 33:51the tight ends just to get, you know, those 5-6 yards, maybe get
- 33:54a little run after the catch. If you get a good, good little
- 33:56angle there, you know, we saw these things that are going to
- 33:59be so useful to get a quarterback comfortable running
- 34:03the offense. And when you start mixing those
- 34:06explosives in there, that's when you start putting some points on
- 34:08the board. I'm really curious to to know
- 34:14where the wide receivers are going to come into this
- 34:16offensive game plan. Like I've been sitting here just
- 34:20on the for two years now waiting to see some of these guys that
- 34:24that that came in these talented Virginia guys that I really want
- 34:27to see them get out there and, and show their stuff.
- 34:32You know, Keelan, Adams, Wiggins, I, I really want to see
- 34:36what they have to have to offer and what they can bring to the
- 34:39field. You know, I think, I think all
- 34:42the fans are waiting to see that.
- 34:43We're wanting to see somebody that can go over the top.
- 34:46Yeah. And one of the, one of the
- 34:47problems that I saw was, you know, you, you had the, you
- 34:51know, the, the primary 2 in that first maroon group.
- 34:56But when it came to the, to the second group there with, with
- 35:00the indecisiveness of hewn and the pass rush and protection
- 35:04issues that went along with that.
- 35:06Like there just wasn't a whole lot of opportunities to get them
- 35:08into the mix in that second-half on the maroon side.
- 35:11That's why you saw the white side really, you know, take some
- 35:14big jumps in the second-half. I mean, you look at the final
- 35:18score, 2112 White, but I mean it was, it was mostly Baroon in the
- 35:22first half there. And then when things swapped out
- 35:25and we started getting some of those second and third teamers
- 35:27in there, that's where the I think the overall depth on the
- 35:31white side carried the day. Whereas when you looked at the
- 35:35kind of the more, Maroon probably had a little bit more
- 35:38frontline talent but probably wasn't as deep as the White
- 35:41squad. And we kind of saw that play out
- 35:44in the first half and then the second-half, you know, the white
- 35:46kind of took over there. Excellent.
- 35:50How'd the line look? I hadn't heard anybody talk much
- 35:53about on on on the socials about the offensive line.
- 35:57I liked what I saw from the Maroon group in the first half.
- 36:00I mean they really had they had four guys that are kind of going
- 36:04to be in that seven or eight man rotation on the offensive line.
- 36:09So you know, from a first half perspective with most of those
- 36:12guys are on the field, you could see it, you could see a
- 36:15difference when things started getting shuffled in the
- 36:18second-half. Obviously we saw some protection
- 36:20issues coming there. And you know, they probably had
- 36:22more guys that were a little bit further down the stream on the
- 36:27on the maroon side as well. So when when the swap started
- 36:31there was a bigger drop off than you saw on the white side.
- 36:35Down 4. All right, well, I'll hop off
- 36:37here and let the next guy in. Awesome.
- 36:39Appreciate you, Justin. You guys have a great night.
- 36:42Thanks just as always man. Watch the rest in the lobby.
- 36:46Next up we have my third group panel host from the Hokies
- 36:53spring game, pre game show. He he was he was called into
- 36:57duty by yours truly at the end there.
- 36:59So we're going to bring him on now.
- 37:00Chris Lester. What up, Chris?
- 37:02Chris, I sent a message to you. You see it?
- 37:05You still look tired, man, because you went there all
- 37:09weekend, right? Yeah, well, First off man, good
- 37:14to see you because you've been Mia for like 2 weeks.
- 37:17I don't know what you've been doing.
- 37:18I. Am in the middle of some deep
- 37:20crap at work and I'm sorry. You, you can tell, you know, we
- 37:25understand. You know, you're busy, you're
- 37:27big time. You know, you've been doing
- 37:29things around you. You ain't, you ain't reacted to
- 37:31us and talk to us, you know, So I'm glad that you're back, you
- 37:35know, it's. Good to see you, Curtis.
- 37:37Hey, you, you come here in the middle of the week.
- 37:40I, I, I, I can always be entertaining here.
- 37:43That's in the middle of the day. Sometimes don't work.
- 37:45I hate you and Jonathan. Chris, I miss you.
- 37:49Chris I. Miss you too, Curtis, you know,
- 37:52and Jonathan Prometheus. Tally some, homie.
- 37:57Hey, Tally got the shout out at the end of the spring game
- 37:59there, Chris. Chris had to try.
- 38:01To make. I know you, man.
- 38:03I know. That's good to hear.
- 38:05B, what's going on, baby? You know, me and B are, me and B
- 38:08are one, you know, we've been hanging out kicking it.
- 38:11I've been kicking it with his son and stuff.
- 38:13So it's good work, man. And yeah, I, you know, he called
- 38:16me in and, and he, he got me at the end because we had, had a
- 38:20couple of lively drinks and we were smoking cigars and we were
- 38:25having a good old time. So I, I think a lot of people
- 38:28have a, a couple of different questions.
- 38:29I, I heard, I think it was Justin.
- 38:32He was asking questions about the online and, and what he saw.
- 38:38I, I had the opportunity, you know, go up the week before and
- 38:40take a look at some things. I, I, I was, I was pleasantly
- 38:44surprised that Big Bang James hadn't lied to us.
- 38:48You know, he hadn't lied to us. He had said he wanted to have a
- 38:52guy he could win with in the starting.
- 38:55He wanted a second guy he could he could win games with and have
- 38:59a guy he was excited about. I was most pleased with what the
- 39:03defense was able to do. The secondary.
- 39:07You know what, last year where we had the huge drop off when
- 39:10Josh Clark, you know, got hurt, it was like we went downhill
- 39:14quick. And you don't have that problem
- 39:17this year in the secondary from my man Jack was White to
- 39:21Palador, Josh Clark coming back. Your safeties are nice.
- 39:26I'm I'm incredibly excited about knowledge.
- 39:30Harold Tyrell, Grant Junior, Twenton Reddish's back and
- 39:37Jordan Bass is showing us he's that he can go from being a late
- 39:43hit miss Reed and letting a guy from South Carolina run wide
- 39:47open. He's learning.
- 39:49So definitely happy with that situation, the linebackers.
- 39:54Did anybody talk about the linebacker play?
- 39:57Yeah, I talked about a little bit like I I was especially the
- 40:01guys that are going to play the most snaps.
- 40:02I was, I was very, very happy with what they showed on
- 40:05Saturday. Yeah, Gabe Williams played.
- 40:09I love what Spencer brings. Noah Chambers is showing he's he
- 40:14can beat that guy. Oh, and also big, big shell.
- 40:17You know, big shell, big shell, though, as his Mama calls him.
- 40:20You know, when she's at the games, he was, he was played
- 40:23well in the secondary. So I was, I was excited about
- 40:25that. The D line is probably going to
- 40:28be probably as explosive and nasty as ever.
- 40:34You know, we we already know about Kumari Cope and Elijah
- 40:36Fall. What he can do.
- 40:39I think it's Malik or Malachi Williams and you know, a guy can
- 40:44come off the edge. We did have a little, we had an
- 40:47injury with Zeke Chenowee, but I think he's going to be fine.
- 40:52So the defense was was awesome. It sounds like it's coming out
- 40:58that there were some bumps and bruises and guys that got
- 41:01nicked, but nothing that really is going to effectively
- 41:05everybody's making it to August. Nobody is like crap.
- 41:08They go on like, you know, you always hear that it's like guys
- 41:12getting nicked and Chris, I can remember something you put like
- 41:14so and so is Nick and it's like my head went was football.
- 41:19You still got your teammate, you still you, you still got to
- 41:23tackle them. You got to hit them, you got to
- 41:24block. That's going to happen.
- 41:27It's the big ones where it's like, you know what it was with
- 41:30Clark and over to a point last year and that's that's that's
- 41:35deflating. It's just like.
- 41:39Yeah, I mean, my, my biggest thing is I wanted to get, get to
- 41:42this point where we get through the spring game.
- 41:44We don't we get through spring practice.
- 41:46We don't have anybody who's majorly, you know, injured, not
- 41:50just hurt that they can't get back and be able to contribute
- 41:54during the season. The one thing that I took away
- 41:57from is that when people got hit, they stopped, you know, so
- 42:01many times when we had guys like so and you know, we here, we
- 42:04were family, you know, when they would hit Kelly Lawson, they
- 42:08would keep going. You know, when they would hit
- 42:11Jaden Keller, if you know, if he got to tackle somebody, they
- 42:15would, they would keep going forward.
- 42:17You didn't have that happen Saturday.
- 42:20Guys hit, got hit and they stopped.
- 42:23And then and that's a big that's a big that attributes to what
- 42:30Jared Ferguson did the year before with the strength and
- 42:32conditioning and then carrying on with Coach Lucy Lucy and
- 42:37doing what he did. So I was I was excited about the
- 42:39defense. So everybody was like, question
- 42:41about what? I mean, Justin said he was
- 42:43worried about the white or wondering what was going on, I
- 42:46guess with the wide receivers. Was that a big thing that that
- 42:48people were asking? What was y'all question about
- 42:50that? Yeah, I think, I think Justin
- 42:52said. Like, you know, what was the
- 42:54wide receiver production like? You know, we look at the stat
- 42:57sheet, you know, a lot of a lot of tight end receptions, little
- 43:01smattering after that. You know, we were both there.
- 43:04Chris, give me your take on that.
- 43:05I know you got a, got a, got a good, good breath of knowledge
- 43:08on that position. Well, I, I, I want, I want y'all
- 43:11to understand is that the quarterbacks are taught right
- 43:13now in spring, they're learning the playbook.
- 43:16So now they just want to do, they want to make the right
- 43:20decision. So if they've got a 2, you know,
- 43:23they got a high, low situation. What they've been taught is this
- 43:31Coach Franklin made a a statement in in one of the
- 43:35meetings, even say, listen, don't miss out.
- 43:39And and this we're the family. You know, if you were out back
- 43:42in the day when some of you guys are out here wildcatting in the
- 43:44streets, that was never my deal. I was always been a one woman
- 43:47man, you know that type of thing.
- 43:50But if you, you know, if you can go get this 5, don't pass on the
- 43:55five shooting for the 10 and then the 10 ain't there and the
- 43:59five is gone, right? And that's what you saw a lot on
- 44:02Saturday. You're going to hit the the the
- 44:05sure thing. So the sure thing is going to be
- 44:08dominating the middle of the field.
- 44:09That's what they don't want to do.
- 44:11You're going to hit a Luke Reynolds.
- 44:12And Luke Reynolds is an absolute monster.
- 44:15He's going to be that guy in the middle of the field.
- 44:17But as teams go in the middle of during the year, they're going
- 44:20to try to take that away. But you've got capable guys on
- 44:23the outside. Aidan Green is a guy who can get
- 44:26it done. Q Caso Brown can get it done.
- 44:31Tysha I always mess mess my man's name up.
- 44:34Tysha Denmark. He he can get it done.
- 44:38Chance Wiggins had a good day. And I was so excited for him
- 44:41because he's been battling with a little bit of a little bit of
- 44:43injury and you know, he was pushing through and that's what
- 44:46he did and scored there. And so I'm excited about him.
- 44:51I'm always excited about the kids.
- 44:53So I mean, that's that's I'm, I'm just glad he's running
- 44:55around free and he was out there open and things of that nature.
- 44:58So that's going to happen. That's the maturation.
- 45:00So they're going to go from being I'm going to be, it's
- 45:04going from being awkward to mechanical to being natural.
- 45:09Does that make sense? Yeah.
- 45:11So the the so the the being awkward is I'm going to take the
- 45:14sure thing. You're taking a tight end.
- 45:16But as they get more comfortable, they'll start
- 45:18taking those shots down the field and you've got the guys on
- 45:20the outside to be able to do that.
- 45:24What I saw from the offensive line, you really didn't get the
- 45:27full, you know, taking the offensive line.
- 45:29Howlin hasn't practiced at all. You know, I saw we, I saw him on
- 45:33the sideline. He was on the white side.
- 45:35Those are the guys who were quote UN quote injured.
- 45:37But he hasn't, he isn't, hasn't played yet.
- 45:40Justin Terry, he's coming into his own.
- 45:44You know, I got a report for everybody.
- 45:46Tommy Wilder is 6 foot seven, 322 lbs right now.
- 45:51You're getting big, baby. He probably going to show up.
- 45:54He going to show up on campus 320-5330, so he'll be there in
- 46:00six weeks. So I think, I think you're going
- 46:01to have where you said 6 to 8. I I think you might have 10 guys
- 46:06who can play. And that hasn't happened at
- 46:07Virginia Tech since I've been here.
- 46:09I don't know when the last time we had 10.
- 46:11We finally got tackles in the building, Chris.
- 46:14Man, man, you finally got offensive lineman in the
- 46:17building, man. So you got 10 guys who can play,
- 46:19man. So I'm just glad.
- 46:22You know. Yeah, Big Franco didn't lie to
- 46:25us, man. We, we, we.
- 46:26I think we're good to go. I got Mr. Christopher.
- 46:30What's up, baby? How you doing?
- 46:31I'm trying to be like you when I grew up.
- 46:33I told you what I said, big fella.
- 46:34Listen. Man, listen, man, I'm always
- 46:36trying to be like you. What's?
- 46:37Up, stop it. I just want to say, hey, I
- 46:40didn't even want to say shit. I just want to say what's up to
- 46:42Chris? What's up, man?
- 46:44I heard y'all saying I fucked up somebody's shit earlier.
- 46:46I didn't do nothing. I went inside.
- 46:49I was mind my damn business. Next thing I know, we'll mess
- 46:53somebody up. Oh man, it's all good.
- 46:55But yeah, man, I was, I was excited about what I saw.
- 47:00As you can see, man, Coach Franklin's got his finger on
- 47:03everything and he knows that people are looking, looking at
- 47:08him to say, hey, how do we get these guys to to move further?
- 47:13Because I think the knock on him is that he's got a guy who's
- 47:17going into the draft, Drew Allen, and everybody feels like
- 47:19he didn't get the most out of him.
- 47:21He's had the knock on him and he hasn't had that quote, UN quote
- 47:26break out wide receiver, but you got guys around them.
- 47:28I just think if everybody's patient and allow this thing,
- 47:32though to just develop, we'll we'll get to where we want to
- 47:36get to. I'm officially on the USS.
- 47:38I'm lying and you know I'm I've, I've already took the mooring
- 47:44lines off and I'm ready to get this thing out in the out in the
- 47:47water Tally, you awful dag on quiet, man.
- 47:49Come on, man. I was.
- 47:50Going to say that earlier. I'm glad I'm back on being.
- 47:53All cute over there, man. What's up, man?
- 47:56Hey, I I wasn't able to go to the spring game.
- 47:58So I'm just listening to the to the experts and seeing what the
- 48:02seeing what the what the fields was, how people was liking it.
- 48:06Like I said at the beginning, I was trying to get the lay of the
- 48:08land and you know, all I got to see was a couple of videos from,
- 48:12you know, different people, parents and stuff like that.
- 48:15What I can say is there was some lineman that was ducking to get
- 48:19off the bus. I haven't seen that in a long
- 48:22time. Not sure who.
- 48:24I'm not sure who all of them was, but I know there was some
- 48:27people ducking to get off the bus so.
- 48:29Yeah, yeah, real quick. Who was it?
- 48:31Y'all seen that YouTube video today?
- 48:33Or the D lineman? Was it Malachi?
- 48:36Was it Williams? Yeah, Malachi Williams.
- 48:38Yeah. And this is no pun on Cunningham
- 48:41at all. That man was putting Antoine
- 48:45Riley moves on people in that video.
- 48:49So I'm kind of curious to see what the D line really looks
- 48:52like. I've heard what, 6 deep at the
- 48:55end? I've heard there might be an
- 48:58injury on the D tackle line. But outside of that, I mean, you
- 49:01got to be 4 or 6 deep competitive, at least 4, right?
- 49:05Yeah, you got. You got Elijah Falls, you got
- 49:08Kamari Copeland, you got Gerard Johnson, you got you got Eric
- 49:12Mensa, you got those guys inside.
- 49:14What's the kid? Ereka.
- 49:16Ereka. Yeah.
- 49:17Randy Ereka. Yeah.
- 49:18Ereka, yeah. I think real quick, Willy will
- 49:23let me just say this, just from conversations that we've had not
- 49:26only with Chris but other people it, it's the way the floor has
- 49:31been raised. 100% I. Agree.
- 49:34I mean, the way the floor has been raised is because you, you,
- 49:40we, you feel right now like when you know, we used to say what
- 49:44you want to say, we could say man, maybe 4 or 5 deep, yadda,
- 49:47yadda. And you kind of felt like, man,
- 49:49that's, that's like perfect case scenario.
- 49:52I don't feel like saying 5 or 6 deep at the end is like perfect
- 49:57case scenario. I think that's legitimately can
- 50:00happen. I think we talked last week,
- 50:02Chris, I know you were listening.
- 50:04We're talking about being 6 deep at wide receiver.
- 50:07I, I think it's going to and it's not going to be a blink.
- 50:09It's not going to be like as long as these kids develop and
- 50:12this happens and this happens, it's like, no, I, I, I think
- 50:16we're just going to be this deep.
- 50:18Like I don't, I don't, I think there's, the floor is raised so
- 50:21much. It's like there's enough, hey,
- 50:24there's enough places you can play on, you know, those
- 50:28specific positions, but it's like it's not pipe dream
- 50:32anymore. Like you just feel like just
- 50:35looking at the tape on these guys and seeing their
- 50:37backgrounds. It's like it's truly when we
- 50:41start talking depth, it's like I, I, I don't think I'm pipe
- 50:44dream anymore. Like I truly think that this is
- 50:46actually going to happen for numerous positions where it's
- 50:49going to be like, well, you know, so and so and so and so
- 50:51got banged up. And it's like, I don't care.
- 50:54The next two are just as good. And they're going to be able to
- 50:57continue to carry it on where last year and for the last few
- 51:00years, maybe in the last decade, it's just felt like so and so
- 51:03got hurt. Oh.
- 51:04Crap, Yeah, I mean depth. Depth is real.
- 51:08And when when you talk about college football, if you don't
- 51:11have depth, you don't have a whole lot because there's only
- 51:14so much that frontline can do, especially on defense.
- 51:18You talk about the the amount of stats of these guys are going to
- 51:21have to play. You got to be almost too deep in
- 51:24every position on defense to feel really good about your
- 51:27defensive situation. And that's even before you start
- 51:30factoring in injuries just cuz you got to have bodies that are
- 51:33rolling in and out of there. You know, a little bit different
- 51:36on the offensive side, you know, you're going to have, you know,
- 51:38some kind of primary Subs, but when we talk about that side
- 51:42wide receivers, where you're going to see most rotation
- 51:44there, you're going to see those guys work in and out.
- 51:46You know, when they're running, you know, two or three long
- 51:49routes in a row, you're going to see guys moving in and on and
- 51:51off the field. So I mean, that's really
- 51:53important. And obviously we know what we
- 51:55got with Hawk. We got Overton in there as well.
- 51:57So you know, you at least got two really good running backs
- 52:00you can rely on when the when the fall rolls around, you know,
- 52:03you mix in a couple other guys. That's going to be a pretty deep
- 52:06room as well. So feeling good there.
- 52:08I mean, there's not really a position that I feel bad about.
- 52:12And the depth has been raised across the board.
- 52:15So I mean, it's, it's really all about going out there, executing
- 52:18the game plan and making sure you, you know, you don't fall
- 52:21into that pattern of letting some of those close games get
- 52:24away from you at the end. I, I and, and you're, you're
- 52:27spot on with that. You you're spot on with that,
- 52:29Brian. I think if you come off the
- 52:30field, when you get your opportunity to get on, you're
- 52:33going to be you're going to know your assignment, you're going to
- 52:36go want to go make a play because you don't know when you
- 52:38might not, you might get back in.
- 52:40I mean, you know, if and you know, if Jeff goes out, yeah,
- 52:45Jeff goes out, Hulk will come in.
- 52:47We still haven't seen Messiah Mickens and you know, he's going
- 52:51to come in and he's going to come in and play and like, and
- 52:54like Coach Franklin said, you know, Bill Davis in the past, we
- 52:58would get a transfer guy in and we'd be looking for that guy to
- 53:02be he's going to come and bring a loaf.
- 53:04And Bill Davis got to fight to get to get snaps.
- 53:07He going to fight to get snaps, man.
- 53:08And that's what that's what you want to have.
- 53:11So you're right. If you go, if you go 10
- 53:14personnel, you can walk out Aiden Green Brown on one side.
- 53:19You put Snook Peter Ken on the outside and then you can turn
- 53:22around and put put the kid in the slack or Takai heat.
- 53:26If somebody gets nicked up, you don't feel like, Oh my God,
- 53:29Brown goes out, but the guy he's right there and he's ready to go
- 53:33out there and produce, right. We haven't seen Marlon Jackson
- 53:37yet. You know it, it is.
- 53:38So it like you said, they have raised the floor so high and now
- 53:45you're looking at the, the signal before we like, hey, if
- 53:49our frontline guys go down, we're in trouble.
- 53:53That's not the case. If I, if one of our frontline
- 53:55guys go down, you got a guy just as good.
- 53:58Just say and and go and go. Go to work.
- 54:01Or to say, I'm going to cut you off, Chris, my bad dog.
- 54:05I was just going to say, too think about from this
- 54:07standpoint, like Hawkins and Overton do the thing all game.
- 54:10We're actually up by 6-7, whatever, call what do you want?
- 54:14And then all you got to do is have Bill Davis just pound up
- 54:17the middle and actually get some push for the first time in
- 54:19years. Right then I hit the.
- 54:22Stonewall hit 2 yards in the back in the backfield.
- 54:25Because. They're fresh on the O line in
- 54:27the 1st place. You know you can close out games
- 54:30for the first time in years. And I don't have to worry about.
- 54:33Passing it for three yards an out or 4 yards an out to get
- 54:36that first down. Then we had to hope Kyron would
- 54:39hit. I don't mean that to be sound
- 54:43like shit talking, I'm just saying it from a standpoint of
- 54:45physical football. Yeah, because but this is the
- 54:48thing though, I know we talking a lot about players and
- 54:50personnel and depth and stuff like that, which is great.
- 54:54You know, all the discussion is great because that's what I
- 54:56want. But guess what?
- 54:57Let's address the elephant in the room because that shit don't
- 54:59matter right now. It don't matter.
- 55:01I want to know what the fuck was Coach Pride doing on that
- 55:04sideline? He got fired and he back in the
- 55:08building. This was his first time being in
- 55:10front of that many fans since he got his ass ran all over by ODU
- 55:17and ran out of town but really didn't leave town.
- 55:19So all of the players being healthy or not healthy or who's
- 55:23going to play, we don't know what team we're going to see
- 55:25going in the fall camp. So we got a lot of stuff that
- 55:28still got a transparent for the end.
- 55:30I want to know from the people who was there, what did that
- 55:34coaching staff look like? And specifically, what did that
- 55:37defensive coordinator look like going through the pregame, going
- 55:42through, you know, warm ups going through.
- 55:44That's the stuff that that that, you know, if I was there and
- 55:47that's what I would be looking at because again, I like coach
- 55:50Pryor. I think he's a great guy, you
- 55:52know what I'm saying? He's came on the show a couple
- 55:54times and he's very charismatic, but I don't care about that.
- 55:57I want to win. So my my question to the chat to
- 56:01Chris Bryant. I know you guys was yeah, what
- 56:04we getting out of the defensive coordinator right now?
- 56:08You want to run it Brian? Or I can run it from what I see.
- 56:10You can run it go for. It listen, he looks absolutely
- 56:15comfortable in his skin. I had a chance to see him and
- 56:19talk to him and he he seems relaxed.
- 56:22He's like back in his element. I think the one thing that he
- 56:25ended up doing for us a couple of years is he was away from
- 56:28what he likes to do and he just wants to coach football, man.
- 56:32He just wants to be able to coach guys get get tell them
- 56:35what they need to be able to do, you know, and walk them through
- 56:38it. And he's just back in his
- 56:40element. Some guys are meant to be head
- 56:43coaches and some guys are just meant to be great coordinators.
- 56:47And I think Brent Prize is meant to be a great coordinator.
- 56:50And that's what he did. He had, you know, his guys were
- 56:53on point. They didn't make mistakes.
- 56:56The guys that he's got in his in his different places, coach
- 56:59midgets, you know, don't coach. It's Nick.
- 57:06I can't. I don't I I want.
- 57:07To say Nick, Nick Perry. Yeah, Nick Perry.
- 57:09Yeah, Nick Perry. I was going to call him another
- 57:11name, but those guys are just coaching their guys up.
- 57:14And he was fine, man. He was fine being in the
- 57:18building, you know, didn't pull his pen pad out, had his shades
- 57:22on, you know, You know, And man, you're looking refreshed, man.
- 57:27And so I think, I think Brett Pry, you're going to get the
- 57:30best out of Brett Pryde, and that's what we want.
- 57:34From the standpoint, imagine if you got demoted, still made the
- 57:38same money and half the responsibility and then only the
- 57:42amount of effort you put. The amount of.
- 57:44Effort you put in that job to make your name again, because
- 57:47you know life goes on after this, right?
- 57:49Listen. And then Franklin, it said, it
- 57:51told us before I was going to take jobs elsewhere and I was
- 57:55taking Brent Pride with him. You take Brent Pride with him.
- 58:00Because even if that was a pitch, Even if that was a pitch,
- 58:04can he coach linebackers? Oh, he can coach, Absolutely,
- 58:09yeah. That alone won't make us OK.
- 58:12He he's got, OK, we, we could say it.
- 58:15He's got better linebackers than he's had before.
- 58:18Let's just be honest, man. Money's a hey.
- 58:21Hey, let's talk a little bit one one thing I want to say, Tally,
- 58:25I don't know if you noticed this, It's not, it's not full
- 58:29price. Got a little bit of a mullet
- 58:31going on and, and he's got the shades on and he's got he, he,
- 58:35he looks like a different human being from a comfortability
- 58:38standpoint. He's rocking the.
- 58:41Bullock, he's got a little bit of a Bullock going over the
- 58:43back. Like not not.
- 58:44Not a lot, but just. But not like, yeah, yeah.
- 58:47Yeah. Yeah, just just just South of
- 58:49normal. Just South of normal.
- 58:50You know what I'm? Saying so, we are CC football
- 58:54team, OK? Listen to me.
- 58:56Listen, if Denzel Washington can fly a plane drunk.
- 59:03Going to say but I like. It I.
- 59:10Don't care what he is, but I need to see.
- 59:13I just need to see some life on that sideline, you know what I'm
- 59:17saying? Like.
- 59:20I think I said this earlier when I before I bounced off, I was
- 59:23like just fly around and not to share people, be physical.
- 59:27I mean, the thing that we knew about James Franklin was that
- 59:31he's going to get people in the building.
- 59:34I did a job of it. I would say, you know, no
- 59:37discount to what he did. He let he raised the level of
- 59:40talent that we getting in blacks.
- 59:41With less money. With less money.
- 59:43With less money and then you get James Franklin, so the talent
- 59:47and the recruits and things like that.
- 59:48I'm like that. That is great.
- 59:50I'm glad that we doing it because I love to get into
- 59:52recruiting. Even though I try to like stay
- 59:55out of it and Curtis keeps on pushing me back in it.
- 59:58I know that we going to get the guys there.
- 1:00:01But I want to know once we get them there, what are we going to
- 1:00:04do? How we like?
- 1:00:05We can't keep. We got to beat Miami or Clemson
- 1:00:10this year one way or the other. And we're going to be one of the
- 1:00:13two, I promise. I promise we'll be one of the
- 1:00:15two you got. I'll put something on that.
- 1:00:20You got, you got four games. You got four to five games that
- 1:00:24will, you know, you can officially say you're back.
- 1:00:27You go, you go to Maryland. If you can go beat, you beat
- 1:00:29Maryland on a field, you do your thing.
- 1:00:32You come back on a Friday night in Blacksburg and beat
- 1:00:36Pittsburgh. That's a statement.
- 1:00:38Then you turn around and you take a trip down to SMU, play
- 1:00:41SMU, get a dub there and Clemson.
- 1:00:44Then you know, you get down to the last two games of the
- 1:00:47season. You know you you know you 8, you
- 1:00:50know you 8 and one nine and O go to Miami.
- 1:00:54You've you've already beat Miami before.
- 1:00:57I don't care what nobody say. When I got to get Charlotte to
- 1:01:00help you beat me, I whooped your ass.
- 1:01:02And I told every Miami fan when they went to go play Indiana
- 1:01:07this year, y'all weren't going to be Indiana.
- 1:01:09So I believe if you get me to that point and I'm starting to
- 1:01:12get everybody filled out and you got to defend.
- 1:01:15You got to defend the middle of the field with both of my tight
- 1:01:17ends and my wife received. My wife received is going to
- 1:01:20win. So you know, listen man, I've
- 1:01:24done this for the last three years.
- 1:01:25I've booked the room in Charlotte for the past three
- 1:01:28years. It ain't going to be no
- 1:01:29different this year. I'm going to book a room in
- 1:01:31Charlotte until they prove me wrong that I got to cancel it.
- 1:01:34So that's why I'm at with it. Well, Chris, will, I appreciate
- 1:01:38y'all we got. We got somebody else in the
- 1:01:40green. Room we got to get.
- 1:01:41On here, man, I'll get out, man. But hey, man, it's always, like
- 1:01:44I said in the back, man, it's always a great time to be a
- 1:01:46hokey and man, I'm. I'm glad.
- 1:01:49I'm glad to see you guys, Curtis, Thank you.
- 1:01:51I know you're live now. You're not in the witness
- 1:01:53protection program. Yeah, I know.
- 1:01:56You alive. So that, yeah, that.
- 1:01:57Was more important to me. I will listen, Chris.
- 1:01:59I will. I will.
- 1:02:00I will make a promise, I will. I will respond at least once a
- 1:02:04day when I get a message from you.
- 1:02:05Once a day you know I'm alive. That's all I need man.
- 1:02:10Driving to Richmond trying to be like, I'm worried about you.
- 1:02:14Before y'all shut us out of here, I just wonder, hey, I'm
- 1:02:17going to be at Clemson. I know Chris is going to be at
- 1:02:19Clemson. I'll be at.
- 1:02:21Clemson, y'all come on down here.
- 1:02:22Me, me and me and Chris already got it hooked up.
- 1:02:24We already talked about it. Yeah, so.
- 1:02:27You coming? Good.
- 1:02:30No shit. Hey, don't, don't.
- 1:02:32Don't shake the head. You don't mean it.
- 1:02:35You wouldn't like you better be there, bro, because my wife can
- 1:02:39be pissed the fuck off. I want to have to deal with
- 1:02:41that. I'm shaking with y'all right
- 1:02:50now. My wife, you know, my wife has
- 1:02:52actually been the one that's been looking for the looking for
- 1:02:55the tickets for. So she's got a discount thing
- 1:02:58through her through her hospital she works for so.
- 1:03:04Hit me up, We'll figure it out. So we get tickets together near
- 1:03:07Chris because Brian, I know you're going to be there, right?
- 1:03:10Let me see what I can do. I've never met you bro, but you
- 1:03:16go ahead and bring your ass. That's it man.
- 1:03:19Hey man, good night. Hey man.
- 1:03:20Good seeing y'all man. I'll talk to y'all soon.
- 1:03:22Y'all be boy. Appreciate y'all, y'all be here.
- 1:03:26All right, from these knuckleheads.
- 1:03:29Let's let's get him in here, the Godfather himself.
- 1:03:33We clicked at the same time. There he is.
- 1:03:36Hey now, when somebody talks about a man missing in action
- 1:03:38when? It's true.
- 1:03:42The white has been all over the place.
- 1:03:46How you doing? Hey, what's up?
- 1:03:47What's up? What's up, Dee?
- 1:03:49White What's happening, man? Hey man, I'm blessed man.
- 1:03:53I've been between my business and between my son and my
- 1:03:57youngest daughter. I'm getting ready for my oldest
- 1:03:59daughter to graduate. I mean, my 3 kids and my
- 1:04:03clients, I've been swamped. I've been busy, man.
- 1:04:05So things are slowing down just for these next few weeks, you
- 1:04:08know. So I was like, you know what?
- 1:04:10I'm in my, I'm in my Home Office.
- 1:04:11I was like, let me jump on here with my guys, man.
- 1:04:14The best podcast in the game and run my mouth a little bit about
- 1:04:19Virginia Tech football this year in my office where I watched
- 1:04:22Tech. Yeah, I got like a little
- 1:04:24stress, a little stress ball. I'm getting older, I'm getting
- 1:04:28older. So I got to make sure I got
- 1:04:30something to calm me down. Hey, look though, I just want to
- 1:04:33speak on a few things man. And then I'm going to let I know
- 1:04:35y'all got other people that want to jump on.
- 1:04:37I was listening to Chris do an excellent breakdown and some
- 1:04:40stuff. I just wanted I I literally took
- 1:04:43it back to like the presidential debates and took some notes.
- 1:04:46So one thing, one thing he was saying about, you know, Virginia
- 1:04:50Tech being back, I'm part of that group that created the
- 1:04:54expectations that everybody wants to get back to, right?
- 1:04:58You'll know Virginia Tech is back with two things.
- 1:05:01And that's when they learn how to close and finish games and
- 1:05:05they're winning more than four or five games, meaning the
- 1:05:09standard for Virginia Tech was between nine and a half, 10 and
- 1:05:1211 games. So if Virginia Tech is winning
- 1:05:1410 to 11 games, then you know they're back.
- 1:05:18And then maybe 1/3 component is physicality.
- 1:05:21I feel like during the latter part of the Fuente years and
- 1:05:27here the last few years with pride, Virginia Tech just wasn't
- 1:05:30physical. And I don't mean like Caleb
- 1:05:33Woodson and my God, this what you call the safety from Phoebus
- 1:05:41that Chris was talking about hitting people out of bounds.
- 1:05:44Yeah, doing that. Yeah.
- 1:05:46I'm not talking about hitting guys late.
- 1:05:48I'm talking about physicality on offense and defence where you
- 1:05:51can get on 3rd and one, you don't get stuffed at the line of
- 1:05:54scrimmage oil, you don't stop the guy on 4th and one and their
- 1:05:57power gets pushed forward. So that's the combination of
- 1:06:00knowing what you're supposed to do and your strength and
- 1:06:03conditioning program. Another thing man too is like,
- 1:06:07you know, I keep the excitement is infectious.
- 1:06:09I do think that Franklin is definitely going to get some
- 1:06:13instruction and accountability to practice, but just from a
- 1:06:16standpoint of somebody has been in that locker room, somebody
- 1:06:18that has played this game at a high level.
- 1:06:21The one thing that's never talked about until we start
- 1:06:23winning or losing and you not going to really be able to tell
- 1:06:26from the spring game, but I'm curious to see who the leaders
- 1:06:29are this year. You can't really get an article
- 1:06:33about leaders and leadership when it comes to like a spring
- 1:06:37game or spring practice. But one big issue, 1 big issue
- 1:06:41I've seen is that we don't really, well, we haven't had
- 1:06:45leaders, you know, and I mean, that's also because, and this is
- 1:06:49no shot at any kid, because I know several kids at the
- 1:06:52Virginia Tech program, but you know, I keep it real.
- 1:06:55Nobody in this program as far as the players coming in or the
- 1:07:00players returning now, one hokey on this roster has ever really
- 1:07:04won at the collegiate level. Nobody on this roster has won.
- 1:07:08So as much as the vibes, the good, as much as we can talk
- 1:07:11about the depth and the DNS, they got to learn and show not
- 1:07:17just us as fans and media guys, they got to prove to themselves
- 1:07:21they know how to win. And that starts with beating the
- 1:07:24brakes off VMI and Boat Race in Maryland.
- 1:07:27You if you go to if you go to Maryland and you win 1914, you
- 1:07:33got problems. If you if you win a dogfight
- 1:07:36with VMI at halftime, you got problems.
- 1:07:39So to me, the measuring sick is coming out and knowing how to
- 1:07:43play physical football and understanding your your
- 1:07:45assignments. I mean, depth is one thing and
- 1:07:49money helps, but it's a lot of teams.
- 1:07:51I've said this before in our group chat.
- 1:07:53There's a lot of programs that don't have as much NIL money as
- 1:07:58tech and they had 9 to 1011 wins.
- 1:08:01So money gets you more talent. But you know, a lot of these
- 1:08:04guys we got bro, they got they got to show they know how to
- 1:08:07win. Like, and that's not saying
- 1:08:09because Jeffrey Owitz and junior I noticed to see was six years
- 1:08:11old. He's a he's always been a
- 1:08:13winner, but at the collegiate level, none of these guys in
- 1:08:16that locker room can talk about winning, you know what I'm
- 1:08:19saying? So I just want to hear, I just
- 1:08:21want to be a voice of reason. I know there's a lot of
- 1:08:23excitement, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:08:25But I just feel like we got to, we got to kind of be.
- 1:08:28A little of the expectations. Yeah, like let's let me calm
- 1:08:32down. Let's calm down not, and I'm not
- 1:08:34saying calm down with the energy, but I, I was watching
- 1:08:37Tally when I was in the waiting room in the studio and I was
- 1:08:40watching Tally. I said Tally is looking like how
- 1:08:42I'm feeling and thinking because he's he's at he brought up the
- 1:08:46fact that how is Prague going to handle the defensive coordinated
- 1:08:49position? You can't go off a spring game
- 1:08:51because it's a glorified scrimmage in a squad scrimmage.
- 1:08:55We'll know given the adjustments on the road in a hostile
- 1:08:59environment. We'll know if we get up 13 to
- 1:09:03nothing and we push the league to 2027 to nothing.
- 1:09:07That's how you know the not because of what we did last
- 1:09:10weekend. You can't.
- 1:09:12That's, you know, and my last point you guys can talk about, I
- 1:09:16wasn't at the spring game and they didn't televise it, but we
- 1:09:19got we got the running backs of the playmaker.
- 1:09:22I know we got a bunch of receivers, but we really don't
- 1:09:26have a, we haven't seen a consistent group of receivers
- 1:09:30that have made plays like the guys like Jared Boykin, Danny
- 1:09:34Cole. We need that.
- 1:09:36Like, you know, Tech's usually when Tech is usually balling,
- 1:09:39and I'm including the tight ends too.
- 1:09:41They usually have a tight end or two or they have a group of
- 1:09:44receivers that extend the field extend, you know what I'm
- 1:09:48saying? Like make plays down the field.
- 1:09:50We have not really had anybody you fear from a standpoint of,
- 1:09:56oh, this guy may break other than Khalil Herbert, you know,
- 1:09:59Jeffrey Orbison junior, he's been that guy.
- 1:10:01But you know, again, that's just my thoughts, you know?
- 1:10:04Yeah, and Dwight, you make some good points there.
- 1:10:06And, and one of the things that you talked about that stuck with
- 1:10:09me is like the guys, even the transfers, all all these guys,
- 1:10:14they haven't won at the Power 4 level.
- 1:10:17Like the best guy on the roster that's played Power 4 football
- 1:10:20has seven wins in one season that that's that's the best
- 1:10:23we're talking about. So you know, these guys are, you
- 1:10:28know, they played on Bolt caliber teams, but they haven't
- 1:10:31played the the the type of level that we want to get to what our
- 1:10:37aspirations are. And you know, to that point,
- 1:10:42they got to come in here and prove that that they can get it
- 1:10:45done and get it done against those teams.
- 1:10:47And I'm going to shout out Vito, our buddy Don V, because he's
- 1:10:51been on our pre season panel a few times.
- 1:10:55And Dwight, since you brought up being back and things like that,
- 1:10:59like one of the things he he he always talks about, we say, what
- 1:11:02are the key games on the on the schedule?
- 1:11:03What games do you watch? And you know he's going to say
- 1:11:06we need to beat the dog shit out of ODU.
- 1:11:08Thank you that first game two dog shit out of DMI.
- 1:11:12Like that's the things that like we need to go ahead and you know
- 1:11:15that that needs to not be a game by the middle of the second
- 1:11:18quarter. Yeah, hey, I'm on.
- 1:11:21I'm on that panel with y'all too.
- 1:11:22I said the same thing like to me, Clemson and Miami, I never
- 1:11:26worry about Tech, even when they we've been down against the
- 1:11:30teams that are like the standard.
- 1:11:32Because like I said, when the when Miami came to town last
- 1:11:35year, even when we were on the road a couple years ago when
- 1:11:38Felton couldn't hold onto that football, Virginia Tech's going
- 1:11:41to play those kind of games tough because kids look at their
- 1:11:43name, They know about who's really good.
- 1:11:46To me, when we get back to the standard, it's when you boat
- 1:11:50race a team that you are better than not pull away late in the
- 1:11:53fourth quarter against an inferior opponent.
- 1:11:56Because when you can step on somebody's throat, then you know
- 1:12:00that, OK, we got a squad. To me, it's like, you know,
- 1:12:04basically playing with a sense of urgency.
- 1:12:06And that includes the coaches. Tally touched on something him
- 1:12:09and I talked about many times in post game Twitter spaces.
- 1:12:12Energy, man, like energy like too many guys too much talk
- 1:12:17about like wings and and and dip and and French fries and
- 1:12:21traveling to the 757. And then when the lights came
- 1:12:24on, I saw coaches running back and forth almost like their
- 1:12:28headset and didn't work. Guys getting lost in coverage to
- 1:12:32me again, I I am anticipating and I have a level of
- 1:12:36anticipation and excitement for this season because I want to
- 1:12:40see if Franklin can bring the structure in the excitement
- 1:12:45regarding like knowing what you're supposed to do on 3rd and
- 1:12:478th. Like, you know, we didn't we, we
- 1:12:50were very poor when it came to ball Hawking in the secondary.
- 1:12:54This is a program that was mentioned for decades as one of
- 1:12:58the top programs for defensive backs.
- 1:12:59Again, I know they're bringing in talent, but they got to show
- 1:13:03me and guys like me and women as well that understand you talk
- 1:13:07about achieving, you got to be winners.
- 1:13:10Like all this talk about talent and we got death.
- 1:13:13That shit is fun. I'm excited.
- 1:13:14But does the death know how to win?
- 1:13:16Does it, does it, does it not shoot itself in the foot?
- 1:13:19You know when we hold a team on 3rd down, but then there's a
- 1:13:23flag on the play because we've been holding it secondary?
- 1:13:26Or you got to wait for Wake Forest from the rocks on the
- 1:13:30ropes. Excuse me, but then you have a
- 1:13:31dumb penalty on special teams. Like think about the games we
- 1:13:34gave away last year against teams like Wake Forest, other
- 1:13:38programs because of not understanding time and football
- 1:13:43situations. So I know I didn't mean to come
- 1:13:45and rain on the parade. I'm I'm excited too.
- 1:13:48Don't let I'm just being real. Now that's what that's my
- 1:13:51questions and things too, Dwight.
- 1:13:53So the one thing that I can say kind of gives me hope.
- 1:13:57I don't even want to use the word hope.
- 1:13:58The one thing I can look at and just have some kind of, you
- 1:14:01know, constructive criticism or some things that we can look
- 1:14:04forward to is we'll go. I hate to bring up old coaches,
- 1:14:09but when you go back to the Fuente era, right?
- 1:14:12So for when they came in, when they had a.
- 1:14:17We had. We had a stack, we had AG five
- 1:14:20staff, you know what I'm saying? Like I think pretty good.
- 1:14:23X&X's and O's coach himself, but a lot of the people who he had
- 1:14:28on staff was kind of unknown and that's OK.
- 1:14:31It was a couple of good coaches out of his staff.
- 1:14:34I think Vince Weiss was a pretty good coach.
- 1:14:36But again, when you didn't, we ain't got to go into all of it.
- 1:14:39When you neglect the state that you're in and talk shit about
- 1:14:42that state, it's not going to work.
- 1:14:44So then you move on to the Pride era, right?
- 1:14:46So the Pride era, Pride's a great guy, but the coaches that
- 1:14:51he brought in, who was a certified winner, when Dwight
- 1:14:55talks about the players coming in and who you know, these guys
- 1:14:58haven't been winners on the collegiate level.
- 1:15:01Where that happens and where you make up for that is coaching.
- 1:15:05So now when you bring in James Franklin, what gives me a little
- 1:15:08bit of a promise is James Franklin's a winner, all right?
- 1:15:13We know that no matter who wants to talk crap about him, he has
- 1:15:17won. Go look at his record.
- 1:15:19You go look at somebody like Coach Chaos, that's a winning
- 1:15:22coach. Coached in the playoffs last
- 1:15:24year. You look at Anthony Midget, a
- 1:15:26winner. You go look at Jared Ferguson.
- 1:15:29You go look at Lucy. These are winners in the
- 1:15:33coaching staff. So I think the problem that we
- 1:15:36had is that we didn't have no winners and that I think pride
- 1:15:39can be a winner. I just don't think he's a
- 1:15:41winning head coach. He was a winning defensive
- 1:15:43coordinator. So that's that's what I'm
- 1:15:46looking at now. And that's what like I'm excited
- 1:15:50to see, but also a little bit anxious and nervous about like
- 1:15:54all these coaching staff going to jail together because that's
- 1:15:56a like when I was looking at everybody was looking at what
- 1:15:59teams players was on. I was looking at the bottom of
- 1:16:02that list and seeing the list of coaches.
- 1:16:05It's like 30 coaches on each team.
- 1:16:07If you got 30 coaches over here and 30 coaches over here, that
- 1:16:13mean you got 60 coaches or 60 people who help them with this
- 1:16:16program. Somebody got to know how to win.
- 1:16:20You know what I'm saying? That's.
- 1:16:21The way I'm with that's, that's I'm with you, boss.
- 1:16:23So I'm like, that's what I'm, I'm hopeful for because I'm
- 1:16:27like, I hope we ain't just up here because I feel like we've
- 1:16:29been up here country clubbing for some years and I'm tired of
- 1:16:32that. Like I don't want some.
- 1:16:34People to get to the business. Hey, hey, I want Hey, Dwight,
- 1:16:37first and foremost, man, good to see you.
- 1:16:38Big homie always love talking to you, man.
- 1:16:41You know we have some other conversations That's crazy.
- 1:16:44We was having that Hubert Davis conversation other other couple
- 1:16:47weeks ago, which is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:16:50But but going back to this. So when I went up, I had I went
- 1:16:55up a week the week prior to watch the last scrimmage before
- 1:17:00the before the spring game. So I was there that Thursday,
- 1:17:04Friday and Saturday so that the the wide receivers in the
- 1:17:07offense was whooping the defense's ass.
- 1:17:10And on Saturday the offense, they had like an angle tackle
- 1:17:17drill. My kid did something a little
- 1:17:18crazy. But nevertheless, that was the
- 1:17:20last competition. The offensive won that day
- 1:17:23because the deepest came out and whooped their ass in that
- 1:17:27scrimmage. But this was kind of going back
- 1:17:29to what you're saying about changing the mentality of
- 1:17:31certain things. So the offense, the offense, the
- 1:17:35offense it got got to play the defense.
- 1:17:37It made a stop and two guys that got into a fight, right.
- 1:17:42So Franklin turns around, Dwight sends those two guys to the far
- 1:17:46end of the field. They got to do 250 damn up
- 1:17:50downs. They said if you want to
- 1:17:51fucking, it's a family show. If you want to fight, you want
- 1:17:55to fucking fight, go over there and fucking start doing up downs
- 1:17:59because that ain't going to win this football games.
- 1:18:01There was a play that the defenses had had stopped the
- 1:18:03offense, but then they had a penalty about it.
- 1:18:06He fucking lost it. He said that selfish kind of
- 1:18:09play is what loses us football games.
- 1:18:11We get a we're all getting ready to get off the field and then
- 1:18:14the defense makes a play that calls a personal foul and gives
- 1:18:17the offense 15 yards. And those are the things man,
- 1:18:21that like you were saying, the dumb plays at the end of the
- 1:18:25game that end up losing your game.
- 1:18:27That's changing. OK, that's changing.
- 1:18:30So and I've seen that first hand.
- 1:18:31So when I was watching it, not know watching it from your eyes,
- 1:18:35because like I said, Drew about legacy, But the one thing you've
- 1:18:38said for the last three years and me and you've been talking
- 1:18:41is you got to make new memories and you make new memories by
- 1:18:44having the habits of winners and having a championship mentality
- 1:18:48is what Franklin is bringing to the table.
- 1:18:51So you're right until you turn the set.
- 1:18:53We can be as happy as pigs in slot right now.
- 1:18:56But until you boat race like two or three teams that you supposed
- 1:18:59to walk and then go in and and me, you sit there and smoke a
- 1:19:03cigar because I'm going to make you smoke with me.
- 1:19:05And we beat the brakes off of Maryland.
- 1:19:07In Maryland, it really don't matter.
- 1:19:09Hey, look, I'm with you. So we'll be at Maryland.
- 1:19:12We talked about in the chat and I'm going to say this, you know,
- 1:19:15I got spoiled and I'm not talking about back in my day.
- 1:19:18I'm talking about post my day, Tyrod, those guys and Cam and
- 1:19:22macho and those guys, because I think we talked about this in
- 1:19:26the in the season thing, pre season thing.
- 1:19:28We always do a boundary is that one thing about Virginia Tech
- 1:19:32football. It was, it was a very comforting
- 1:19:34feeling to know that when you play whoever that was inferior,
- 1:19:39even if it was a powerful team, that you were better.
- 1:19:42You knew even if it was scoreless in the first quarter,
- 1:19:45you knew Tech was going to step on their throat.
- 1:19:47And you know, one of the things that we talk about is, but we
- 1:19:50have this guy, this guy, this guy from all of y'all have
- 1:19:53played and competed in some capacity in sports, right?
- 1:19:56Part of being dominant in the championship mentality is
- 1:20:00understanding not only how how to win and but it's also knowing
- 1:20:03what you're supposed to do on certain plays.
- 1:20:06And I feel like in the last handful of years we will show
- 1:20:10flashes, but we still don't really have an identity.
- 1:20:13I'm excited with the prostyle offense that we're seeing in the
- 1:20:16tight ends because how many times have I tweeted and said,
- 1:20:19not group chat, Please for the love of God use the tight end.
- 1:20:23Also to me in the prostyle offense, when you have lineman
- 1:20:28and you have depth and you have the running backs you do, it
- 1:20:32makes the receivers and quarterbacks job so much
- 1:20:34friendly. So it's a very quarterback
- 1:20:36friendly offense because it's not about misdirection,
- 1:20:40basically an attitude and the identity has to be there.
- 1:20:44And I know it's not sexy and exciting for fans, but you will
- 1:20:47love them wins a lot more than you will love that spread
- 1:20:51offense when you just chucking the ball down the field.
- 1:20:53So I am excited about that. I just want to, I just want to I
- 1:20:58just as a fan and an alumni from a player perspective, I want to
- 1:21:01see a disciplined yet nasty team like those teams.
- 1:21:05I'm not talking about back of the day.
- 1:21:06I'm talking about. Even.
- 1:21:08The Strowman and Edmund guys, those teams were nasty.
- 1:21:11And what's that? Common say We were better than
- 1:21:14Maryland. That coach was ready to fight
- 1:21:15Frank. It's true.
- 1:21:18It's. Very true.
- 1:21:19Yeah, but I mean, no, we but but again, I don't know if you know
- 1:21:23this Brian and Curtis, but you know, if you you guys have been
- 1:21:26covering Tech a long time tally, you've been as well watching it
- 1:21:29and being on the the show. But I I like when people hated
- 1:21:35hated tech. I like when the opponents hated
- 1:21:38us and the fan because we took over your stadium.
- 1:21:41The fans did and the field on the field, the players and the
- 1:21:45team took over their trap. So it was, it was one of those
- 1:21:48things where we were assholes. We were so physical.
- 1:21:52And I know you can't go back and talk.
- 1:21:54I'm not, I'm not trying to make it back.
- 1:21:56And I'm talking about just the identity, knowing and having
- 1:21:59comfort that even if I couldn't make it to the game when I put
- 1:22:02it on at 3:30, we knew what we're going to do.
- 1:22:05So I'm glad that you, you broke it down, Chris.
- 1:22:08I ain't going to talk too much longer.
- 1:22:09Curtis and B and Tally. I just wanted to share my
- 1:22:12thoughts because I I, I love the the feeling we have.
- 1:22:16I talked to Anthony and Midget and I talked to him and JF
- 1:22:21Ferguson at unfortunate situation, Ronnie Whitaker's
- 1:22:24funeral, and I asked about some guys, Peanut linebacker Lauren
- 1:22:29Johnson's son, Sheldon Robinson, a kid I've known since he was 8
- 1:22:33years old. Say Big Sheldo, Big Sheldo
- 1:22:35Sheldo's my guy, very good. And some other guys on this
- 1:22:39team. So there's talent.
- 1:22:41I'm just curious to see how it's going to come out so.
- 1:22:43And then listen, you, you, you talk.
- 1:22:46You talk this, man. But you know, I I can see a
- 1:22:49whole bunch of folks show up, man.
- 1:22:50But I need you back in the building, big dawg.
- 1:22:54I need, I need you to come down and and bless us with your
- 1:22:57presence, man. I know you're busy.
- 1:22:58I know. Yeah.
- 1:22:59No, no, hold on, hold on, man. I'm no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:23:03I'm busy. But I will, I look, I, I, I had
- 1:23:07let me tell y'all something and I know y'all got a lot of people
- 1:23:09watching so I don't care. Who is this when you talk about?
- 1:23:13And again, this ain't about me. This is y'all show, but y'all
- 1:23:16are my brothers. I, I have done so much.
- 1:23:20I'm talking about post career. I've done so much for this
- 1:23:22program. From speaking at the memorial
- 1:23:25service on 9/11, I mean, for the Yeah 911 honour those people
- 1:23:29that were brutally murdered at Virginia Tech, to writing a
- 1:23:33column for Rivals in 247, from doing a 2013 spring game
- 1:23:38broadcast on ESPNI. You know, my own podcast
- 1:23:42interview some of the greats when Virginia Tech fell to what
- 1:23:46we were before Franklin got here.
- 1:23:48It does something to me where it's unexplainable.
- 1:23:51It it ruptures my soul. So I cannot, I'm not avoiding
- 1:23:56anything. I just can't be around it Now
- 1:23:59Franklin and the guys there now I'm willing.
- 1:24:01It's it's a new regime, but I could not walk into that stadium
- 1:24:06and sit there and watch them play with their food and
- 1:24:11dismantle something that me and my brothers work so hard to
- 1:24:14build. Like anybody that's watching or
- 1:24:17anybody, I don't care if you do softball, baseball, if you
- 1:24:20parted something special, if you in the fraternity or sorority or
- 1:24:23you help lay down bricks and built your house and you see
- 1:24:27when someone comes in your house and they pissing on your toilet
- 1:24:31and they messing with your remote.
- 1:24:32Right. I don't want to.
- 1:24:34I don't want, you know, I'm old now, but I will still confront
- 1:24:37you. So I had to kind of take care
- 1:24:39back. So can we so, so can you get so
- 1:24:42when we, when we, when we because see VMI is like a
- 1:24:45glorified scrimmage. I, I, we all can.
- 1:24:48Can we agree that that's kind of like?
- 1:24:50A Well, no, no, no, no. We want to feel like a
- 1:24:53glorified. OK, so smoke once we smoke BMI
- 1:24:58throat punch ODU, come to Maryland and smoke Maryland can
- 1:25:03can we get here? But for the whole fan base, can
- 1:25:06we get you in the building on A and and they go to Boston
- 1:25:09College and win. Can we get you in the building
- 1:25:11on a Friday night against hit? Can I get you there?
- 1:25:14Can I get that from you? If my if.
- 1:25:16If when I when I watch it and the online is able to pick up TE
- 1:25:21stunts and we're picking up blitzes, even if the receiver
- 1:25:24drops the ball. If I see my old line picking up
- 1:25:27and showing some competency and understands the Downing distance
- 1:25:31is third and seven, it's going to be a sight of just make the
- 1:25:34quarterback makes the throw. If I see those things that these
- 1:25:38guys are supposed to be knowing how to do, I'm going to
- 1:25:40definitely show up. You guys understand until until
- 1:25:44until until two years ago. Let me tell y'all something,
- 1:25:47even when I got waved in the league before 2 years ago, I had
- 1:25:50made seventeen straight spring games.
- 1:25:53I never missed a spring game. I was, I went to home, I went to
- 1:25:57Rd. games when Jimmy Williams and those guys were playing.
- 1:26:00So I was, I was like carving out time.
- 1:26:03I, I still remember staying up till 4:00 in the morning when
- 1:26:06Matt Ryan broke my heart. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:26:11Like you know what I'm saying? So like, yeah, Chris, I'm going
- 1:26:15to show up. Hey man, I know, I know, I know,
- 1:26:19you ain't got another team. I know this is your only team.
- 1:26:23You don't root for nobody else but the Hokies.
- 1:26:25But when? When we.
- 1:26:26But when we do that, I just need to be able to get a picture with
- 1:26:30my big homie, even building that pit when we come in on a Friday
- 1:26:35night. That's all.
- 1:26:35Well, first of all, first of all, not first of all, but
- 1:26:38probably fifth of all, I've been talking.
- 1:26:39Nobody jumps, nobody jumps off. But look, hey, look, first of
- 1:26:43all, one good thing that you know, I'm a very philosophical
- 1:26:47and spiritual person. One blessing out of all this win
- 1:26:50or lose, is I got it tight with you, Chris, and tight with
- 1:26:54Curtis BI call him B Brian and Tally Y'all my y'all, my
- 1:26:59brothers. So like we got our chat, but I
- 1:27:01promote everything y'all do and I met some other good people.
- 1:27:04I just want to, I want, I want the vibes to be, you know, when
- 1:27:08you win, when you win, everything feels better, bro.
- 1:27:11Like I don't care. I don't care if it tastes
- 1:27:14better. And when you win, when you win
- 1:27:17everything. Look, y'all don't understand
- 1:27:18dog. When we used to beat Miami and
- 1:27:20we were winning the left, I used to walk around Northern
- 1:27:23Virginia. I got I was like Frank Lucas.
- 1:27:26You. Was lucky out there, right?
- 1:27:30You know what I'm saying? My man.
- 1:27:35American gangster when he walking and his brothers behind
- 1:27:38him. Right, right.
- 1:27:39Down the sidewalk. That's how I was walking when
- 1:27:41black, when we were winning in Blacksburg.
- 1:27:43But. Yeah.
- 1:27:45But but I know Curtis, you got his shoulder run.
- 1:27:47I'm a jump ball. I just want.
- 1:27:50To I just? Want to get.
- 1:27:53I want to get that out in the atmosphere because that's what I
- 1:27:56want because of all the things. That you've talked.
- 1:28:01I. Want to get the white back to
- 1:28:03black? That I can get the big, the big
- 1:28:06homie the the the godfather of Blacksburg that brought all the
- 1:28:10talent. So, you know, as people try to
- 1:28:12call me, I'm the godfather of someplace, you're the godfather
- 1:28:16of Blacksburg. And we got to get you back in
- 1:28:18the building, though I. Want you know what, man?
- 1:28:20For real? I y'all.
- 1:28:21And you know what I can say is now everybody know I recruited
- 1:28:24Mike and Marcus Detect. Yeah, yeah, but I, I, I I Greg
- 1:28:27Stroman, Tim Settle, Lee Suggs, Like what I I, you know, like I
- 1:28:33joke Bima every time I see Frank Bean, I say, yo, where my statue
- 1:28:37at? I'm like, no, I said what my I
- 1:28:43said what my statue at, man. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:28:46Like I carried the flag for a long time, man.
- 1:28:48But yeah, bro, like, hey, but I will say this man, I don't
- 1:28:52follow the recruit as much as I used to, but I will say the
- 1:28:55talent, it feels good. I saw somebody trolling that
- 1:28:58might have been Joe Rogers. Somebody was trolling saying it
- 1:29:01feels good to be competing against Big 10 in SCC schools
- 1:29:05and no longer Toledo and Akron I.
- 1:29:08Saw that earlier today. That's true.
- 1:29:12Brian, look at put up, put up Uncle Joey's comment.
- 1:29:15He says no championship. Put that up right quick.
- 1:29:19So Uncle Joey, thank you for showing, man.
- 1:29:22No publicity is bad publicity. It is a Tuesday night at either
- 1:29:27night and it is 11. O'clock 11.
- 1:29:29O'clock my wife, look at me watching, but you watching the
- 1:29:33Virginia Tech show with no championships and y'all still
- 1:29:36ain't got no ACC championships? Get the fuck out of here man.
- 1:29:41National Championship. Game.
- 1:29:42Was that one of the 2007 people at their bullshit spring game
- 1:29:47who commented that just. Here to a Virginia Tech show,
- 1:29:51talk about some no championship. We don't.
- 1:29:53We know it ain't no championships.
- 1:29:54Y'all ain't got no ACC championships and you didn't get
- 1:29:57no championship last year, so hey.
- 1:29:59Man, I just they were. Showing up.
- 1:30:01And then whenever Miami fans come and say something like
- 1:30:03that, I just always ask them, clean up all that red and white
- 1:30:06damn confetti that Indiana threw in your shit and and stumped
- 1:30:09your fucking couch out on national on national TV.
- 1:30:14Well, they was talking so much trash about how they were going
- 1:30:17to boat race that team and I told them that they coached so
- 1:30:20clean up. That goddamn confetti will be
- 1:30:22down there in November. Hey, your ass in the.
- 1:30:24Building but look, look, look real quick that right there and
- 1:30:29what Tally did Curtis with Curtis?
- 1:30:31I mean, what Chris just said and what Tally just did, that's what
- 1:30:35I want the players to do. I know I'm the OG.
- 1:30:37I'm the, I'm just telling you, like if there was one game in my
- 1:30:405 years and even as a alumni when we played Miami, it was so
- 1:30:45personal. The reason why it became a
- 1:30:47rivalry because we were a thorn in their side.
- 1:30:49I give them credit, they got it, they got the chips.
- 1:30:52But that's a historical perspective.
- 1:30:54That's the history lesson. Because like, you know, at the
- 1:30:57end of the day, you know, I just, you ain't won the ACC.
- 1:31:00And to me, last time I won it, I want to start, I want to start
- 1:31:04beating them again when the last.
- 1:31:05Time Miami When the last time Miami won a championship. 2000.
- 1:31:11Bro, if I was still in high school when y'all won a
- 1:31:14championship, man, I'm 40 years old.
- 1:31:15You're in the same position with you.
- 1:31:18You ain't saying shit. You're like, we ain't saying
- 1:31:19shit and. And, and we got an opportunity
- 1:31:24to fuck up their their shit this year because they think they're
- 1:31:29running the ACC this year. Shoot.
- 1:31:32They said my. Dummy.
- 1:31:35OK, OK, bro. No, no problem.
- 1:31:38No. Problem man, you still.
- 1:31:39Lost. It Don't matter if you was
- 1:31:40underdog, overdog behind the dog, dog in style, you lost.
- 1:31:50Dog in style you lost yo-yo man hey the ball telling me to get
- 1:31:52off the phone man. Good talking to y'all brothers.
- 1:31:55Man, I'll talk to. Y'all too man.
- 1:31:58Hey, I see y'all man, y'all stay up.
- 1:32:00Appreciate you later, Dwight. Later, Dwight.
- 1:32:02Later, Chris. Phil Phil full of that was.
- 1:32:07Awesome, Phil Phil, am I looking at wings and nachos?
- 1:32:10Can't hear anything. That's the most high plate I've
- 1:32:13ever seen. Chips, celery and wings.
- 1:32:21Like what's going on, Phil? It's.
- 1:32:23Wings, man. Phil, can you hear us, Phil?
- 1:32:29He can't hear nothing. I don't think he hears shit.
- 1:32:31No, he can't look at Brian. HILL Hey, hey.
- 1:32:35My cat going at it. Hey, you, Phil.
- 1:32:40Phil. While we work on getting Phil.
- 1:32:46All right, so we had Dwight on, we had Chris on.
- 1:32:49That was some good discussion. Hey, you know, hey, that's
- 1:32:57because y'all ain't won one. We can say who cares about a
- 1:33:00championship if we want to say it.
- 1:33:02I mean, you care about winning, so you ain't wanted care.
- 1:33:07But it's the funny point you made there for a second.
- 1:33:12Hold on. We're going to kick this one
- 1:33:13off. I'm going to put this one on.
- 1:33:15Shout out to all my Miami fans out there.
- 1:33:17Can you hear us now, Phil? Yo, can you hear me?
- 1:33:20We can kill you now. Let's see you there.
- 1:33:23Let's go, let's go. Was that sweet to be in the
- 1:33:25middle of that right there? That was pretty sweet.
- 1:33:27I, I, I didn't get my chance to say when he said the freaking
- 1:33:31when he said Eddie Lucas, I was like my man, like that's the
- 1:33:33that. That's.
- 1:33:35In that movie, and I was like, that was it Dwight's a man?
- 1:33:38Because I was exactly what I was going to say.
- 1:33:40Like, man, there's a shit load of people drinking some orange
- 1:33:42can maroon. That sounds gross.
- 1:33:44Kool-aid and like, I, I, dude, I, I know we Got Talent.
- 1:33:48I'm, I'm not going to drink it. I refuse to drink the kool-aid
- 1:33:51until we beat the shit like you said, out of VMI.
- 1:33:56Like we got to beat VMI. We got to beat Old Dominion
- 1:33:59convincingly. Like I don't give a shit about I
- 1:34:03don't know, man. And I'm also disappointed in
- 1:34:06Brian for not coming up with a better name for the show this
- 1:34:09week. Not related to the parachute guy
- 1:34:10hanging from the scoreboard. Like like, like hanging with the
- 1:34:13crew or something. Like.
- 1:34:14That. Like come on, man.
- 1:34:19Like I don't that's OK, I don't. I'm not bad but but but my real
- 1:34:23question. Early in my my I was glitching a
- 1:34:28little bit when people was talking about the the parachute
- 1:34:30or I was seeing and they were saying, oh, that's a bad old
- 1:34:34man. I'm like, no, it ain't a bad, it
- 1:34:37ain't a bad omen because he almost died.
- 1:34:39Like it ain't trying to be funny.
- 1:34:41But like if he if the scoreboard didn't stop him, it may have
- 1:34:45been worse. If he lands on top of somebody,
- 1:34:47then what happens? Like if he's walking around, Hey
- 1:34:50man, that's just the Virginia Tech way.
- 1:34:52It don't go out. Sometimes it comes out OK, so I
- 1:34:56don't look at it as a bad omen, but go ahead.
- 1:34:58Well. No, that's a good omen.
- 1:34:59I heard too that we actually going to get an insurance
- 1:35:02payment on that. Curtis might be able to chime in
- 1:35:04on that, that, that basically like we get the insurance to fix
- 1:35:07the scoreboard that we're then going to tear down and replace.
- 1:35:11So we make some money out of it too.
- 1:35:12I think we I think we're going to sign a backups long snapper
- 1:35:16with that money. Hey, so, so basically we're the
- 1:35:20the demo is going to be free because whenever the insurance.
- 1:35:22Claim is. I do have a question though.
- 1:35:24Corner look, look, everything he's great.
- 1:35:26Everything's amazing. We're going to be so good.
- 1:35:28Unstoppable, like 6 O here we go.
- 1:35:32But like what happens one if Brooke Meyer gets hurt, OK,
- 1:35:36because there ain't shit behind him.
- 1:35:38Shit, there ain't shit. And I hope we have an offensive
- 1:35:41line that can protect the passing quarterback that we who
- 1:35:44was the last passing quarterback Virginia Tech has had.
- 1:35:49I was I was hoping shit, I was going to say drunken Miller.
- 1:35:52Like, yeah, I guess Glennon maybe.
- 1:35:54Yeah, Glennon, so. But but hold on, let me block.
- 1:35:59For him. But but grunt Meyer is not a
- 1:36:01statue, though Brian made the point on that.
- 1:36:04I can't if you did it here a couple hours ago or just some
- 1:36:06casual conversation like he's not a complete statue like he
- 1:36:11has wiggle. He has ways where we were
- 1:36:14talking like. If you run Wells, can he move
- 1:36:16like Grant Wells? He moves better than Grant
- 1:36:18Wells. From what?
- 1:36:19I'm running Grant Wells on options dude.
- 1:36:22There's no way he can move better.
- 1:36:24I was on options. Because they were running a
- 1:36:25Smash Mouth spread and you didn't have a fucking option
- 1:36:27unless you, you know, wanted to take that element of your
- 1:36:30offense completely off the table.
- 1:36:32Yeah, which was stupid at that point in time, but I.
- 1:36:38Can't hear Brian. That's weird.
- 1:36:39You can't hear Brian. No, just you were running a
- 1:36:42Smash Mouth. Spread.
- 1:36:44Yeah, and. Was like, can you hear me?
- 1:36:46Yeah, you great. Yeah.
- 1:36:47Basically, we were running Smash.
- 1:36:49Mouth. Spread and you.
- 1:36:51Had to do. You had to run Grant.
- 1:36:52Wells just to keep them honest, but it was that discussion.
- 1:36:55I asked Brian like basically, I said Brian.
- 1:36:58They run cover once in five. If Grunt Meyer, if the guy
- 1:37:01doesn't hit Grunt Meyer, what what happens?
- 1:37:03He's like he gets 10 yards first down he's got he showed it.
- 1:37:07He showed it in the spring. That's not a solid quarterback.
- 1:37:10That typically works. For us.
- 1:37:12Like we were screaming for. Kyron drones.
- 1:37:14We were screaming for Tyrod. We were.
- 1:37:16Screaming for these mobile. Quarterbacks, I hope all these
- 1:37:19tech fans are going to be OK with a guy who is not.
- 1:37:22I don't know that that's a big change to go from what we've
- 1:37:25always been, in my opinion, to help out the running game to now
- 1:37:30we're going to be a pro set. And man, I hear prostyle system
- 1:37:32and I'm like, holy shit, that's not good.
- 1:37:34Because that's what they brought to South Carolina last year and
- 1:37:37that was a pile of shit. Yeah, we need to win field.
- 1:37:39So 100% and what we've been doing ain't working.
- 1:37:42Then maybe. We need to train.
- 1:37:44Yeah, well, that's. What I exactly?
- 1:37:45No, I'm with you. So I hope I, I hope it all comes
- 1:37:48to fruition on the. Field because it it sounds
- 1:37:50really pretty right now like Franklin is winning.
- 1:37:53He's winning the the the presentation contest for sure.
- 1:37:58So it's true. I'm I'm, I'm like Dwight, and I
- 1:38:02hope that I don't get my opium up.
- 1:38:04By August. But I'm like so many of us now,
- 1:38:08it's like we want to see it. We want to see crushing teams
- 1:38:12you should crush going to somebody's house, take their
- 1:38:16turf, take their lunch money in Maryland.
- 1:38:20That's a big game for recruiting, too.
- 1:38:22You know he's going to have a can you have recruits?
- 1:38:25On the road. How does that work?
- 1:38:27I don't know how I'm sure. You can.
- 1:38:29Hell, be smart. Really piss off.
- 1:38:31Let Mike. Loxley really want to punch
- 1:38:33James Franklin, Like, hey guys, go visit there, but come to our
- 1:38:37sideline or maybe show Marilyn what they didn't, what they
- 1:38:41missed out on. Exactly, exactly.
- 1:38:44So it'll be, yeah. It's like don't.
- 1:38:47Get the hope up. But I think what we've discussed
- 1:38:50here, what we're seeing all along is what we're seeing right
- 1:38:54now is just in general, just in general, the floor of the talent
- 1:39:01level has raised, the floor of the coaching level has been
- 1:39:04raised and like, and now it's what are they going to do on the
- 1:39:10field? What are they going to do when
- 1:39:11the other team will actually try to get you and try to rip your
- 1:39:14fucking head off? What do you do?
- 1:39:17And that's going to be what is it going to be?
- 1:39:21What's the exact, what's the official first date this year of
- 1:39:26September? How many, how, how, how was our
- 1:39:28time out usage in the spring game?
- 1:39:30Do we? Do we call you dumb ass time
- 1:39:33outs for no reason by chance or leave any in the pocket?
- 1:39:36I'm just wondering that's my that's my question so I don't I
- 1:39:41just we will. We will start finding out.
- 1:39:43Everything. September 5th.
- 1:39:46And that's. When you know it's it's either
- 1:39:49sunshines and rainbows are not again.
- 1:39:53Well, I'll tell you right now, like the rest of the sports that
- 1:39:56are coming wrong with tech right now, I don't think.
- 1:39:58Anybody should get too excited about what's going to happen at
- 1:39:59the end of the year of a softball or definitely not
- 1:40:01baseball. A baseball 1 today they beat VCU
- 1:40:03at the diamond. That was awesome.
- 1:40:06Ten 1:00 game. Damn.
- 1:40:07And no lights at the diamond. They're moved across the street,
- 1:40:11but. Man, I dude, if football starts
- 1:40:14like if we went if we beat VMI like 24 to 7 and then beat Old
- 1:40:19Dominion like 24 to 14 or something, man that those those
- 1:40:24happy go lucky James Franklin press conference is going to
- 1:40:26change real quick. Hey, I can't even I can't even
- 1:40:29put the word ODU and beat in the same sentence.
- 1:40:32I've never. Had beat myself.
- 1:40:34No thank God we dropped JMU shit good Lord.
- 1:40:38So I can't. I just.
- 1:40:39Got to see, hey, I just we got a long time for the season to get
- 1:40:42here, but not. Really a long time.
- 1:40:44So it's going to be a lot that's got to transpire.
- 1:40:46I need to see some people get healthy.
- 1:40:47I need to see what our offensive line looks like.
- 1:40:50And like you said, the happy go lucky stuff, that's great.
- 1:40:53But we got to have some production on that field, some
- 1:40:57production out of the coaching staff before me, myself, I'm
- 1:41:00going to get excited. One of the things I want to see
- 1:41:03is let's go makes me drink beers he really can't hear.
- 1:41:06You. He really can't hear me, Kenny.
- 1:41:08He really can't hear. You.
- 1:41:09I can't hear you for some reason.
- 1:41:10That's so great. I I.
- 1:41:12Agree with everything you're saying.
- 1:41:13Though 100%. 100% I mean because they don't got no picture up
- 1:41:17there. That's what the problem is.
- 1:41:19So wait, so tally if you want to come up to any.
- 1:41:21Game you let me go that that Lexington place.
- 1:41:23Going to be a hell of a lot. Cheaper than $2000 20 yards from
- 1:41:26the stadium, that's for damn sure.
- 1:41:27You can pay a pay a high school kid to drive you up there man.
- 1:41:30There we go. Great.
- 1:41:32It'd be great. I mean just pay like 200.
- 1:41:34Dollars each way. Damn, you saved your money.
- 1:41:37That. Is for real so Curtis one of the
- 1:41:39things I want to see rent that place during the tech.
- 1:41:41Camp, I hope we get going where you got to start renting.
- 1:41:44Lexington Houses, that's that would be.
- 1:41:45Sweetest that's that's that's what we need to get to.
- 1:41:48Alright, Brian, you got one more thing before we close it out.
- 1:41:50Yeah. So like Dwight's talked about a
- 1:41:52little bit, Phil talked. About a little bit tally.
- 1:41:54You've hit on it a lot. I think the thing that we need
- 1:41:58to see when the when fall rolls around, one of the things the
- 1:42:02the hallmarks of the pry regime was that when the the energy on
- 1:42:09the sideline always match the. Flow of the game, it's.
- 1:42:13True. So when when we were looking at
- 1:42:15the flow of the game. If we jumped out.
- 1:42:18Early it was, it was all happy, all go lucky.
- 1:42:21They fed off that energy. If things were tight or we
- 1:42:24dropped down early there was this tightness.
- 1:42:27You could feel the tightness on the sideline.
- 1:42:29The air came out. The booty hole was like this on
- 1:42:32the sideline. It was clinched.
- 1:42:34It was, it was tight. It won't let nothing in or out
- 1:42:37and and and that became a hallmark of the Pryor regime
- 1:42:41because that they weren't that even keel or always bringing
- 1:42:47their own juice on the sideline. It always was very game flow
- 1:42:50dependent. So we got to get to a point
- 1:42:51where from the staff and it's going to trickle down to the
- 1:42:54players that you know, one thing goes wrong.
- 1:42:58Don't let it snowball. Bring your own.
- 1:43:00Juice make sure that the. Sideline is ready hype in the
- 1:43:03game, ready to do the things they need to do regardless of
- 1:43:05what's happening on the field. Because if you do, if you're, if
- 1:43:09you're dependent on what the game is doing, you're playing
- 1:43:12down to your opponent. You always are facts.
- 1:43:16Agreed, Agreed. So that that will be the first.
- 1:43:21Hopefully. It's not the BMI game, it's the
- 1:43:24BMI game. God.
- 1:43:25Get get the cigarettes. Ready get to get to get to get
- 1:43:28the hard liquor ready because man listen, man, I'll be.
- 1:43:32I. Cannot wait to meet Phil in
- 1:43:34person because I know well feels.
- 1:43:35Great. I know he's going to be a
- 1:43:38handful. Yeah, you're awesome. 20 years
- 1:43:43now. Look.
- 1:43:44Just like Dwight said, like it hurts his heart, like these past
- 1:43:48whatever, 10 years. Aside from the Fuente flash in
- 1:43:51the pan, man, it's hurt my heart like so I just we got to we got
- 1:43:54to get this fixed because I I don't have any hobbies.
- 1:43:57So no, I don't know Yeah, I wish.
- 1:44:01He ain't. He ain't.
- 1:44:02I don't like model airplaning or.
- 1:44:05Civil War reenactments or just. Yeah, that's going to be really,
- 1:44:10really, really bad next. Year like unless we.
- 1:44:13Somehow hit lightning. In a bottle with some division
- 1:44:15NAIA transfers and JUCO AA division two stars.
- 1:44:22Like man, it ain't going to happen.
- 1:44:23Come on, man, it ain't going. I I can't believe Ben Hammond
- 1:44:27and those guys are even coming back.
- 1:44:29Like come on, like they, I don't know.
- 1:44:31So we're going to find out they doubled their pay.
- 1:44:35Well, they doubled their pay, OK?
- 1:44:37And then we're going to hire your son to play small forward.
- 1:44:40Like, I don't this is insane. Like, I don't know, that's me.
- 1:44:44And but I get it. Like I talked to a really good
- 1:44:46prominent hokey today at the baseball game and he's like,
- 1:44:48look, football wins one year. We get this thing rolling.
- 1:44:53Eight wins is great. But like if we somehow pull off
- 1:44:559 to 10, the money will come in and that'll come out and they'll
- 1:44:58be that'll all somehow come out in the wash.
- 1:45:00And I agree with that. I just it's a big ass risk, man.
- 1:45:04It's a it's a big only one coach has ever won attack
- 1:45:07consistently. So we're going to find out.
- 1:45:10We are going to find out with all the resources and the money
- 1:45:12being applied to it. But I I hope I don't know.
- 1:45:15So, but I I get it. Football's what pays the bills.
- 1:45:18Like nobody gives a shit with Phil likes like everybody cares
- 1:45:20what people who put watch football like it it doesn't
- 1:45:23matter. It cares what the masses are.
- 1:45:24So it it is it is the IT is the the rising tide, right?
- 1:45:28If football does good, everything.
- 1:45:30Can do good because it brings the most money, the most eyes,
- 1:45:32the most people. It always has.
- 1:45:34It always will. And at least right now,
- 1:45:40regardless what you feel about James Franklin, at least they
- 1:45:43are fucking going for it. At least they're not fucking
- 1:45:45trying another coordinator or some G5 coach.
- 1:45:50It's like, you know what? This guy who's taking out lunch
- 1:45:54money in multiple recruiting battles, he is available.
- 1:45:58He is available. Decisive decisions.
- 1:46:03He's going to be able to bring better.
- 1:46:04Coaches in he's. Probably better bring better
- 1:46:06players in. At least we're going for it
- 1:46:09again because I don't think we all could have dealt.
- 1:46:11Would have been like, well, this guy from the guy that went to
- 1:46:15Auburn, was it P Dom who now Golish went to?
- 1:46:20Yeah, Golish went to Auburn. Golish.
- 1:46:23Went to Florida, Golish went to Auburn.
- 1:46:25Yep, Golish. Went to summer all.
- 1:46:26Went. To summer.
- 1:46:27All went to Florida. So the guys went to yeah, I
- 1:46:30mean, but as much as we want to say like, oh, we don't love to
- 1:46:33have those guys. We would have been like, you
- 1:46:35know, their G. Five guy, right, Their G5 guy.
- 1:46:38So we've been another fucking coordinator.
- 1:46:41God damn. Well, you know, he's a good
- 1:46:43coordinator at least got a head coach is our defense
- 1:46:46coordinator. We're a big fucking deal.
- 1:46:48You're a big damn deal A. Big damn deal.
- 1:46:50And with that being said. I'm going to wrap up this
- 1:46:53episode of the. Boundary corner.
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- 1:47:00We're ready for the season. Ready for the season. 5 months
- 1:47:03away. Look at now.
- 1:47:05Look it now give you a discount. You said it, I don't.
- 1:47:11Know I'm not going to give you the I won't give everybody the
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- 1:47:29That's all. So no more everybody, Phil.
- 1:47:31I'm Brian. I'm Curtis Wilson.
- 1:47:33You are not Brian. Siegler.
- 1:47:34I'm not Brian Siegler. That's you.
- 1:47:38He tired. Long day, let's go.
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