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Bengals Booth Podcast: One Of Us · Bengals Booth Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, the like one of us edition.
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Speaker 1: As I talk to the delightful k Adams about her
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Speaker 1: connection to Bengals fans, Dave Lapham joins me to review
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Speaker 1: Wednesday's joint practice with the Packers, and finally, I'll chat
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Speaker 1: with an undrafted wide receiver from just up the road
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Speaker 1: at Miami University who will take the field for the
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Speaker 1: first time in an NFL game on Friday night, Mac Hippenhammer.
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Speaker 1: Kay Adams, who visited training camp this week for a
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Speaker 1: airs weekdays at eleven am on fan Duel TV. If
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Speaker 1: you don't get that channel, you can find a ton
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Speaker 1: of clips from the show on YouTube. After Ka interviewed
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Speaker 1: players and coaches on Monday, she sat down with me
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Speaker 1: for a one on one conversation. All Right, Kay, you
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Speaker 1: didn't grow up in Cincinnati. From Chicago. You don't live
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. I live in LA But Bengals fans think
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Speaker 1: that you're one of us. Yeah, what's the origin story?
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Speaker 1: How did that happen?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I lived in New York for over a
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Speaker 3: decade and between there's also but I saw something in
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Speaker 3: this team that made a lot of sense to start
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Speaker 3: rooting for them. When everyone was excited about Ben Roethlisberger's
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Speaker 3: last year as a Steeler, and everyone was talking up
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Speaker 3: Lamar and everyone was mentioning the Bills and every other
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Speaker 3: team in the AFC except for the Bengals. It just
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Speaker 3: didn't make sense to me. With Joe Burrow following the injury,
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Speaker 3: knowing what he was on the college level, a champion,
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Speaker 3: a sort of a strange cat who I still haven't
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Speaker 3: met and want to get to know. The talent was there,
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Speaker 3: Who's bringing his wide receiver of course over from LSU.
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Speaker 4: It made too much sense.
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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, nobody on the national
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Speaker 3: level ever spoke about the Bengals for the longest time
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Speaker 3: unless it was something that was critical, And this fan
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Speaker 3: base sort of pulled me in, so I you know,
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Speaker 3: it's not that I was driving here, it was that
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Speaker 3: I was being magnetically pulled by this amazing fan base
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Speaker 3: that really won me over because they weren't saying we
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Speaker 3: deserve it, and they weren't expecting the.
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Speaker 4: Sky to fall.
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Speaker 3: And Jets fans, over the years, it's mostly enjoying the
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Speaker 3: present moment as it was happening, and that's what I
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Speaker 3: think willed them to the Super Bowl that year that
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Speaker 3: I said they'd go deep into the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Bengals fans feel like they don't get enough respect from
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Speaker 1: the national media. Are they right?
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Speaker 3: Look at last year, ninety percent of sports media picked
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Speaker 3: the Bills to win. A lot of strange things happened
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Speaker 3: last year between the Bills and the Bengals, but they
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Speaker 3: came out on top. And you know, I think the
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Speaker 3: Bengals last year, from the inside of locker room, were
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Speaker 3: growing a little bit frustrated, but also feeling themselves, which
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Speaker 3: I don't like. I'm glad that borrowad is over.
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Speaker 4: No one's talking about it. I haven't heard the words
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Speaker 4: while I've been here.
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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it in the media, And it seems
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Speaker 3: like a lot of the teams in the AFC are
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Speaker 3: now joined against a common foe named the Jets, who
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Speaker 3: are out of nowhere getting all of the hype. Of course,
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Speaker 3: they're stacked and they're built to go to the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: But I think you know those comments that coach Sean
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Speaker 3: Payton made as the head coach of the Broncos, Now
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Speaker 3: that is a sentiment that I think is echoing and
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Speaker 3: permeating through the AFC.
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Speaker 4: What are the Jets? Give me a break?
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Speaker 3: And I think it allows teams like the Bills, like
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Speaker 3: the Bengals, like the Ravens, your division foe, to sort
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Speaker 3: of get in the lab work on what needs to
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Speaker 3: be worked on. And I'll say that just being here
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Speaker 3: today and talking to the DJ readers of the world,
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Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard, it's business as as usual. Jamar Ches, young player,
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Speaker 3: just twenty three. But I keep asking what's unique about
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Speaker 3: this camp? After facing so much adversity after a Super
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Speaker 3: Bowl loss. Nobody seems to have the thing where they're
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Speaker 3: cursed or there. We can't get there. We're not going
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Speaker 3: to cash in on this. Everyone's really positive and doing
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Speaker 3: their own work to be better as a whole.
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Speaker 1: So anytime you post something on social media that's Bengals related,
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Speaker 1: the response from the fan base is unbelievable. How would
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Speaker 1: you describe that exchange you have?
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Speaker 3: Would it's just the best fan base. I don't know
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Speaker 3: how else to describe it. I think there's other fan
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Speaker 3: bases that have been through it. The Vikings, my hometown
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Speaker 3: Bears fans are you know, every time I've post something
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Speaker 3: nice about the Bengals, I get the opposite end too
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Speaker 3: from everybody in Chicago, and I'm excited for them. But
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Speaker 3: there's something special about this squad. I love what Elizabeth
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Speaker 3: Blackburn has done. She inspires me, so she sort of
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Speaker 3: pulls me in as far as my interest and my
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Speaker 3: attractiveness to the organization and the culture change that she
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Speaker 3: sort of evolutionized, I'd say over the past several seasons
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Speaker 3: to make it even better experience for the fans. You
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Speaker 3: just love to see it because it's why I love
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Speaker 3: the NFL, and the blink of a hat, you could
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Speaker 3: have an NFL team go from nothing to the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 3: or go from being hopeless to making a twenty seventeen
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Speaker 3: eight championship run like the Jaguars.
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Speaker 4: Di it. It can happen.
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Speaker 3: It takes a lot of work behind the scenes, but
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Speaker 3: I will always root for it when that happens.
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Speaker 1: That was twenty twenty one for the Bengal Yeah, four
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Speaker 1: wins the year before Super Bowl in twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 1: you were the ruler of the jungle for one of
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Speaker 1: the games that year, and you dove in head first.
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Speaker 1: You're hanging out at Bengal Jim's tailgate, You're having cocktails
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Speaker 1: with Bengals fans before the game. What about that experience?
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Speaker 4: What do I remember?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I mean do you remember? I mean way beyond what
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Speaker 1: you expected.
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Speaker 3: It was as welcoming as the social media response is.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of no one talked
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Speaker 3: about us, but there was reasons to be talked about,
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Speaker 3: which is the most frustrating thing. Wait, we have a
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Speaker 3: great quarterback. Wait, we have really dynamic receiving options. We
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Speaker 3: have a coach that we believe in, Zach Taylor, coach
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Speaker 3: lou This is the sixth best defense in total scoring
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Speaker 3: last year, and nobody talks about it. It's on heralded now.
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Speaker 3: Seventy five percent of that secondary has been overhauled. There's
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Speaker 3: a lot of changes, and there are certainly question marks,
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Speaker 3: but just the lack of being talked about motivates the team.
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Speaker 3: I hope the Bengals stay in that mindset and as
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Speaker 3: far as this season is again nationally, I don't think
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Speaker 3: many people are talking about what this team can do.
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Speaker 1: How did you refer to Burrow as an interesting cat?
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Speaker 1: Was that your expression?
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Speaker 4: I've ready met him.
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep saying I've never met I've
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Speaker 3: met his family members, I've met his lovely girlfriend, I've
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Speaker 3: met all sorts of people near and dear to him,
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Speaker 3: his favorite wide receiver from back in college. Of course,
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Speaker 3: he's a bit of a mystery. He's so good at
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Speaker 3: keeping things separate. It is a wild thing for him
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Speaker 3: to play in the super Bowl, where you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: having Sam Hubber tell me like jay Z was right there,
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Speaker 3: and Justin Bieber was right there, but Joe's like, I
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Speaker 3: don't care. He truly is the coolest, most interesting cat around.
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Speaker 1: So when you see the footage of him hopping on
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Speaker 1: one foot on day two of training camp, what went
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Speaker 1: through your brain.
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Speaker 3: I was on the phone with my producer Matthew Hamilton
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Speaker 3: when we were lively going through the all of the
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Speaker 3: drama of it, and we of course noticed he had
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Speaker 3: a sleeve on his caps like, why is that they're
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Speaker 3: wise that there?
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Speaker 4: Should they put them out here? Whyse?
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Speaker 3: And it just seems to me a strange blessing in disguise.
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Speaker 3: I thought what I was watching over and over again,
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Speaker 3: is him put a little weight on that foot when
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Speaker 3: he was hopping onto the cart and I right away said, okay,
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Speaker 3: I like this. And then to hear things like al
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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase come out and say get your rest, to
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Speaker 3: hear the confidence of this locker room, even after dealing
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Speaker 3: with so much adversity and saying we've got you. I
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Speaker 3: sort of think Joe at this point, after missing a
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Speaker 3: rookie season, after dealing with injuries that have kept him
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Speaker 3: sideline at times, that he wanted to build more chemistry.
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Speaker 4: With his guys out there.
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Speaker 3: He's probably a really hard player to get off the
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Speaker 3: field and stay off the field. I'm sure you know
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Speaker 3: people have to protect him from coming back too early.
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Speaker 3: I think those were the words that Jamar Chase was
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Speaker 3: trying to, you know, to tell everybody.
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Speaker 4: We've got you.
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Speaker 3: You get better through the Browns, through the Ravens, through
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Speaker 3: Monday night football with the Rams, We've got you.
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Speaker 1: So Chris collins Worth on your show, which the Bengals
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Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, and one of the biggest
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Speaker 1: reasons why was Burrow finally has a healthy training camp.
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Speaker 1: He can get in all those reps that he hasn't
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Speaker 1: been able to get. It's almost almost felt like a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a jinx.
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Speaker 4: He's a curse. It's the Chris Collinsworth curse. He doesn't say.
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Speaker 3: I will say this about Chris Collinsworth. I think when
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Speaker 3: you are from the team and then you are on
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Speaker 3: something like Sunday Night Football, you almost talk about the
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Speaker 3: other teams a little more to you know. I'm from Chicago,
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Speaker 3: and I think that's why Bears fans think I hate them,
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Speaker 3: because I don't talk about them very much because I'm
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Speaker 3: from there, and I you know, I don't want to
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Speaker 3: make any sort of perception or appearance that I favor them,
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Speaker 3: or that I know them even better than other teams
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Speaker 3: or whatever. So I think Chris collins is a bit
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Speaker 3: of a victim of that, a little bit of him
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Speaker 3: trying to be objective and maybe over correcting.
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Speaker 4: That in some way.
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Speaker 3: But I had no idea that Bengals fans felt this
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Speaker 3: way about Chris. And then he came on my show
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Speaker 3: and he cursed everything. Collins Worthworth pff around here, I mean,
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Speaker 3: drive down there. I'll throw Greater's ice cream raspberry snowballs
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Speaker 3: at the office.
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Speaker 1: Now, now it sounds like It's kind of like coaching
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Speaker 1: your kid in youth sports. You know you don't want
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Speaker 1: to favor your own kid, right, that's similar.
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Speaker 3: There's something like that going on. But I mean, Chris
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Speaker 3: had a great point. If you look at the numbers,
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Speaker 3: and they do bear out, they're not super fun if
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Speaker 3: you're a Bengals fan to see Joe Burrow the first
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Speaker 3: four weeks, first eight weeks of the season versus the
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Speaker 3: last half has hotter last halfs his numbers really all
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Speaker 3: across the board. I wouldn't say slow starts, but certainly takes.
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Speaker 4: A bit of a warm up period.
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Speaker 3: That could be for a ton of reasons, of course,
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Speaker 3: but is it chemistry. Would it hurt for him to
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Speaker 3: be out there right now? No, of course not. But
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Speaker 3: it's also not the worst thing that Trevor Simeon's getting
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Speaker 3: some getting some love and refs out there, and he's
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Speaker 3: one of the better backups.
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Speaker 1: I think everybody loves Joe Burrow for obvious reasons. Chase
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Speaker 1: Higgins mix and you know, they're great star players on
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Speaker 1: this team. But you referenced some of the guys that
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Speaker 1: you talked to while you were here for training camp.
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Speaker 1: Is there a Bengal or a couple of Bengals that
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Speaker 1: you think this guy deserves a lot more attention then
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Speaker 1: he gets.
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about the offensive line. I think maybe
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Speaker 3: I think it's obviously a huge question mark, but we're
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Speaker 3: seeing Jonah, who could have been more disgruntled than he
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Speaker 3: was for a moment, now saying all right, I'm good,
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Speaker 3: I'm fine. Orlando Brown's here, a very versatile player who
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Speaker 3: feels very comfortable in position that he's in, in a
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Speaker 3: veteran with championship pedigree coming into the building, and I
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Speaker 3: think that offensive line should be much improved. I actually
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Speaker 3: think it's the best one that Joe Burrow's played with,
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Speaker 3: and so that's always the low hanging fruit for poking
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Speaker 3: at this team. You're gonna hurt Joe Burrow, You're gonna
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Speaker 3: let him get hit and sacked. I think it should
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Speaker 3: be stronger out the gates, and it's been in previous years.
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Speaker 3: That should help all around. Joe Mixon. I think top
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Speaker 3: five year, no question, it should be available for him
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Speaker 3: to go out there and get that. And I just
11:44
Speaker 3: think that one of the things that's flying under the
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Speaker 3: radar is that you know there's always going to be
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Speaker 3: salary cap issues on any team, especially a championship caliber team,
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Speaker 3: and trying to keep everybody in the building.
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Speaker 4: It's not possible. Dan. So the fact that.
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Speaker 3: Even if the t Higgins thing doesn't work out, just
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Speaker 3: the fact that he is showing up. That says a
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Speaker 3: lot about Joe. It says a lot about everybody in
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Speaker 3: the locker room. It says a lot about Zach Taylor.
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Speaker 3: And you know, guys like Jamar Chase are watching that.
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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase is seeing, Hey, I'm going to deal with
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Speaker 3: that next year. I'm going to deal with my business.
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Speaker 3: And I'm seeing how a guy like Tea sort of
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Speaker 3: handles that. You have the same thing. Obviously they paid
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Speaker 3: Logan Wilson. I loved seeing Tea say congratulations, I'm happy
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Speaker 3: for you, fully knowing we don't know what's ahead, we
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Speaker 3: don't know what the future is. So them being able
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Speaker 3: to as an organization sort of handle what.
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Speaker 4: Could be.
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Speaker 3: Rapid and wide ranging disgruntlement among these players like a Jonah,
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Speaker 3: it sort of gets nipped in the butt, and that
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Speaker 3: is teamwork that takes everybody.
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Speaker 1: So if the Bengals are the team to beat in
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Speaker 1: the AFC North, who do you think is their biggest
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Speaker 1: competition this year Baltimore, Cleveland or Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 3: Collinsworth was really selling me on Cleveland, but I don't
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Speaker 3: talk about Cleveland. So I'm going to say the Ravens
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Speaker 3: their Week two opponent, because you can't deny it. They
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Speaker 3: build themselves little super team. I think if the world
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Speaker 3: wasn't enamored and solely focused on the Jets, the Ravens
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Speaker 3: would be the story of the off season. Wow, who else?
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Speaker 3: What would it be if you took the Jets stand
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Speaker 3: off the table? What's the story of the NFL right now?
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Speaker 3: It's not on the homes. They're good, they're boring, they're set. Lah.
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Speaker 4: It's the Ravens.
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Speaker 3: It's them bringing an Odell. Odell is always a headlining act.
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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he's not only because Aaron now
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Speaker 3: is in the AFC.
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Speaker 4: And in New York.
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Speaker 1: He said in an interview on Monday that had he
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Speaker 1: stayed healthy in that Super Bowl two years ago, the
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Speaker 1: Rams would have won forty two seventeen. Really, we've had
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Speaker 1: fifteen catches for two hundred and fifty yards. That was
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Speaker 1: his quote.
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Speaker 3: See, but I didn't even see me. I didn't even
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Speaker 3: see that because they're really flying. They really are flying
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Speaker 3: under the radar and they're trying to build and they've
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Speaker 3: got a couple of great running backs as well. I mean,
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Speaker 3: Lamar has to stay healthy, but I think he's got
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Speaker 3: a little something to prove. And they went through They
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Speaker 3: just had a bizarre year last year. They always have
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Speaker 3: weird injuries that keep them sidelined, but there was this
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Speaker 3: some soullessness going on. There were just weird things energetically
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Speaker 3: that you were seeing on the sideline harbor, and you
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Speaker 3: know at halftime that I forget which game it was
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Speaker 3: Hamilton that they sort of were. Their vibe was so
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Speaker 3: off the Ravens. I forget which game it was, but
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Speaker 3: you could just tell this is not the team that
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Speaker 3: you're used to. So if they can get back, I
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Speaker 3: would say they're that definitely the toughest competition.
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Speaker 4: Don't sleep on the.
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Speaker 3: Steelers though, either They're never going to lose a season,
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Speaker 3: and I think they're on the way up. They and
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Speaker 3: they down the stretch one a ton of games, so
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Speaker 3: if they pick up where they left off, you can't
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Speaker 3: sleep on Talmlant.
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Speaker 4: It's a gauntlet of a division, all right.
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Speaker 1: Wild Card topics. Do you have any hidden talents.
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Speaker 4: Oh man, I know Morse code really?
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Speaker 1: Yes, awesome.
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Speaker 4: That's so weird.
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Speaker 3: My grandmother in Poland made me learn it in case
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Speaker 3: the Soviets came.
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Speaker 4: Back and took over Poland and I was sucking to
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Speaker 4: forest somewhere. I literally know Morse code.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true.
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Speaker 3: I haven't exercised that ever, but if I'm ever in
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Speaker 3: a bad spot, I'm surviving the zombie apocalypse, all right.
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Speaker 1: So some people can do sos, but you're you're well
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Speaker 1: beyond that.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Who is your all time favorite athlete in
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Speaker 1: any sport? And why, oh my.
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Speaker 3: Gosh, in any sport, I would say, I'm just going
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Speaker 3: to go. The first game that popped in my head
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Speaker 3: was Matt Fote. I think he's why I fell in
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Speaker 3: love with the NFL, because there was so little to
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Speaker 3: root for and he was so fun and electric and
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Speaker 3: I was on my couch jumping up and down when
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Speaker 3: he Obviously Devin Hester too, but I got more of
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Speaker 3: Matt Forte, and he was so involved in changing the
15:33
Speaker 3: complexion of what the whole offense looked in any game
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Speaker 3: that he played. So Matt Forte off the field, on
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Speaker 3: the field was sort of the person who got me
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Speaker 3: into loving the NFL on the level that I did.
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Speaker 1: The greatest former two lane play NFL history cam sample
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Speaker 1: from very good.
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Speaker 4: We got a shout out about Camp samp.
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Speaker 3: I think Sam Hubbard today gave him a really nice
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Speaker 3: shout out for how he's looked at camps. We're excited
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Speaker 3: to see what sample looks like in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Having a very good camp.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 1: Final one, If you could meet anybody in history, I
16:02
Speaker 1: hate these questions athlete entertainer. Who would that person be? Mine?
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Speaker 1: Is Steve Martin?
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Speaker 4: By the way, is it really we were.
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Speaker 3: Just talking about Steve Marron. Stay tuned, you'll know why
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Speaker 3: we were talking about Steve Martin. Bengals fans just a
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Speaker 3: couple of days. Julia Louis Dreyfuss I would say loved Seinfeld.
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Speaker 4: I think she's brilliant.
16:23
Speaker 3: She's so understated and makes such a big impact in
16:26
Speaker 3: the community around her, and.
16:27
Speaker 4: I just love her. I would love it.
16:28
Speaker 3: I'd get nervous if I met her. I've met a
16:31
Speaker 3: lot of people and I've definitely heard parts of it,
16:34
Speaker 3: but I think I'd get nervous to meet her.
16:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I'd be a babbling idiot. Around Steve Martin.
16:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay.
16:39
Speaker 3: People want to meet like Taylor Swift. I've met her.
16:41
Speaker 3: She's lovely, but there was no freak out about it.
16:44
Speaker 1: I think.
16:46
Speaker 3: I changed my answer. Colleene Bennis, get out of here,
16:50
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.
16:51
Speaker 4: I have to meet Joe Burrow. What's it going to
16:53
Speaker 4: take Dan, he's one room away.
16:55
Speaker 1: Let's you know, let's see if we can get him
16:57
Speaker 1: to drop.
16:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, him to heal up. That's what I keep saying.
17:01
Speaker 3: They won't let me talk to him, but I keep saying,
17:02
Speaker 3: I'm going to let him. I'm gonna let him heal up.
17:05
Speaker 3: That's my That was my pr spintch like he wants
17:08
Speaker 3: to talk to me, but I said, you need to.
17:11
Speaker 3: We need to be on ice buddy, get back on
17:13
Speaker 3: the training table.
17:14
Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you back in Cincinnati. You
17:16
Speaker 1: are my wife's favorite NFL broadcaster. Myself included your way above.
17:21
Speaker 2: Damn.
17:22
Speaker 1: I will get you your forehead signed bobblehead.
17:26
Speaker 3: You promised this, okay, And you said I heard graters
17:30
Speaker 3: called you this morning.
17:31
Speaker 1: They reached out to me to see if I could
17:33
Speaker 1: smuggle you in some ice cream.
17:34
Speaker 4: Isn't that hard?
17:36
Speaker 2: Things?
17:36
Speaker 4: I will say this.
17:37
Speaker 3: I was here for my ruler of the Jungle game
17:39
Speaker 3: and this is all business here at training camp. It
17:42
Speaker 3: is all hands on deck. Everyone's super focused and it's
17:45
Speaker 3: great to see and it's great to see you.
17:47
Speaker 4: Dan, you too, and tell your wife I love her.
17:48
Speaker 1: And say hi, you got it. Some TV personalities are
17:52
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17:56
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Speaker 1: learn more. Last year, the Bengals held two joint practices
18:30
Speaker 1: with the La Rams before their final preseason game. The
18:34
Speaker 1: first one went well. The second one featured the Aaron
18:37
Speaker 1: Donald hillmet swinging incident. Bengals safety Nick Scott was with
18:42
Speaker 1: the Rams last year.
18:44
Speaker 2: It was pretty wild.
18:45
Speaker 5: I mean, I to this day, I joke around like
18:47
Speaker 5: I don't know who the guy or girl was that
18:50
Speaker 5: sat down and said, hey, let's have a Super Bowl
18:53
Speaker 5: rematch three months after it happened, and hopefully everything comes
18:58
Speaker 5: out peaceful. We kind of knew that gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: The Bengals and Packers did not meet in the Super
19:03
Speaker 1: Bowl last year, but sure enough, tempers flared when they
19:06
Speaker 1: held their joint practice on Wednesday. First, Packers left guard
19:10
Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins got into it with Jermaine Pratt and b
19:13
Speaker 1: J Hill, leading to a massive scrum. Later, Jenkins and
19:18
Speaker 1: DJ Readers squared off and the Packers pulled their offensive
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Speaker 1: linemen out of practice. Here's Sam Hubbard on the brew.
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Speaker 6: Haha, Yeah, it happened, So I don't think we need
19:28
Speaker 6: to make a big deal out of it. We're professionals
19:32
Speaker 6: and everybody's very competitive, and sometimes it happens.
19:36
Speaker 1: Is it almost something you expect when two teams get
19:38
Speaker 1: together and when they eat like this, You guys haven't
19:41
Speaker 1: seen another team yet.
19:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's also kind of fun at units each side.
19:47
Speaker 6: You know, you rally with your teammates and come back
19:50
Speaker 6: in the locker room and you're a united front going
19:52
Speaker 6: against another jersey for the first time of the year.
19:56
Speaker 6: It's not all bad as long as everyone's you know,
19:58
Speaker 6: no need to throw a punch to helm and break
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Speaker 6: your hand or something like that.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to be smarter than that, but it's football.
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Speaker 1: There was no clear winner in the skirmish, but both
20:10
Speaker 1: defenses came out on top, and wednesday's practice Reider blew
20:14
Speaker 1: up the Packers running game. Trey Hendrickson had a sack,
20:18
Speaker 1: came off the field for a few snaps, and then
20:20
Speaker 1: immediately had another sack after returning, and Mike Helton had
20:23
Speaker 1: the only takeaway for either side as he jumped around
20:26
Speaker 1: the red zone and likely would have had a long
20:29
Speaker 1: pick six. When asked about the Bengals defense, head coach
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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor invented a new word, veterany.
20:36
Speaker 7: You know, it's they're just I think probably the underrated
20:40
Speaker 7: portion of our defense is how smart they are. They
20:44
Speaker 7: can make adjustments at the drop of a hat because
20:47
Speaker 7: they've played together for so many years. They're all so smart.
20:50
Speaker 7: It's really frustrating as a play calling often sometimes when
20:53
Speaker 7: you practice against the same team over and over and
20:55
Speaker 7: over and they do such a good job in so
20:57
Speaker 7: many areas, and they're so smart, and we feel like
21:00
Speaker 7: we have the same thing on offense. We feel like
21:02
Speaker 7: we've got a really smart football team. But you asked
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Speaker 7: specifically about the defense, and that's what stands. Not only
21:07
Speaker 7: are they talented, and not only do they have great
21:09
Speaker 7: chemistry together and they understand what Lou and the position
21:12
Speaker 7: coaches want from them, but they are all really smart.
21:15
Speaker 7: I mean, really, there's great players in this league that
21:18
Speaker 7: you know, maybe maybe don't have both the talent, and
21:22
Speaker 7: I don't know, I can't speak to anybody specifically, but
21:23
Speaker 7: I know our guys are really really football smart.
21:26
Speaker 1: As for the Bengals offense, it's sputtered against Green Bay's
21:29
Speaker 1: D with Trevor Simmy and Jake Browning alternating at quarterback.
21:33
Speaker 1: Of course, things likely would have been better if Joe
21:35
Speaker 1: Burrow were healthy and he was in attendance On Wednesday,
21:39
Speaker 1: as Joe attended practice for the first time since injuring
21:42
Speaker 1: his calf thirteen days earlier. Here's offensive coordinator Brian Callahan.
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Speaker 8: We had talked about it this morning, him coming out
21:48
Speaker 8: if he felt like it, and he decided he wanted to.
21:51
Speaker 8: So I looked over there and he was standing right
21:52
Speaker 8: next to me.
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Speaker 2: He was great.
21:53
Speaker 8: It's good to have him.
21:54
Speaker 2: What's the biggest impact of having Joe out there watching?
21:56
Speaker 8: It's always nice to have his presence out there, you know.
21:59
Speaker 8: I think it's good for guys to see him out.
22:01
Speaker 8: I mean, he's been rehabbing quite a bit. He's doing
22:02
Speaker 8: a good job, and they have him out at practice
22:05
Speaker 8: is always beneficial. Guys like seeing him too, you know.
22:08
Speaker 8: I think he's everybody excited to have him out standing
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Speaker 8: around watching.
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure this process has been hard for him
22:14
Speaker 1: just being out. Are generally think this practice in particular
22:17
Speaker 1: is one he would want it to be out for.
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Speaker 8: Oh, he's an elite competitor, so any chance he gets
22:22
Speaker 8: to go against somebody else, Yeah, he you know, I'm
22:24
Speaker 8: sure it's frustrating for him the standing and have to watch,
22:26
Speaker 8: but that's what it is, and you know he's going
22:29
Speaker 8: to have to swallow that frustration and he'll be ready
22:31
Speaker 8: for when it's time to be ready.
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Speaker 1: The hope remains that Joe will be ready for the
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Speaker 1: season opener at Cleveland, which is almost exactly one month away.
22:39
Speaker 1: I spoke to Dave Lapham after the joint practice and
22:42
Speaker 1: we started with the struggles that the Bengals had on offense.
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Speaker 9: The Packers, I think are a pretty good defensive unit.
22:50
Speaker 9: They ran significant blitz packages for this stage of training camp,
22:56
Speaker 9: very significant really, but I don't think it was any
22:59
Speaker 9: surprise to the coaches. But there were some assignmenters. I
23:02
Speaker 9: saw some free runners made things difficult in the quarterback.
23:06
Speaker 9: I mean, the quarterbacks are having all they can handle
23:08
Speaker 9: just you know, trying to get the ball to the
23:11
Speaker 9: right spots at the right time, and when there's free
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Speaker 9: runners in their face, I mean, it's it's very frustrating
23:17
Speaker 9: probably to try to execute. Obviously, and as a play caller,
23:20
Speaker 9: I'm sure Brian Callahan had his moments where it's like, mayah,
23:25
Speaker 9: this is like swimming up hill. They get they got
23:28
Speaker 9: humbled a little bit offensively and more than a little
23:30
Speaker 9: bit really. I mean, I think Green Bay, obviously, you know,
23:34
Speaker 9: ruled the day as far as making it tough for
23:37
Speaker 9: the Bengals to move the football. So that's not always bad,
23:41
Speaker 9: you know, it's it's particularly early in camp to get
23:44
Speaker 9: to get humbled and realize that you get miles to
23:46
Speaker 9: go before you rest, get back to the drawing board
23:49
Speaker 9: and get get things corrected. But again we've talked about
23:52
Speaker 9: it more than once. Number nine puts the ball in
23:55
Speaker 9: spots that not many do. That's what makes him a
23:59
Speaker 9: top ten should have been top five player in the NFL,
24:01
Speaker 9: has voted on by the players. But when when he
24:06
Speaker 9: when he's operating and and uh, you know, deciphering getting
24:09
Speaker 9: the ball out and putting it in very very good spots.
24:13
Speaker 9: It's a it's a much different dynamic. I mean is
24:17
Speaker 9: the key is in the National Football League especially, but
24:19
Speaker 9: any level of quarterback put the ball where your receiver
24:23
Speaker 9: can turn into a running back and make yards have
24:26
Speaker 9: to catch instead of making them stop or reach behind
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Speaker 9: or whatever the case may be, and you don't have
24:32
Speaker 9: to restart. That's it's a totally different dynamics. So there's
24:36
Speaker 9: there's a lot of things. Protection for the quarterback has
24:38
Speaker 9: to be, you know, really good. You got to pick
24:41
Speaker 9: up the blitzers, you got to solidify the pocket. I thought,
24:45
Speaker 9: defensively in the red zone, Jordan Love can spin it,
24:50
Speaker 9: and he can spin it from he drops two different
24:52
Speaker 9: angles to throw the football. I thought accuracy might have
24:55
Speaker 9: been a little bit of his issue, you know, coming
24:57
Speaker 9: out not the most accurate, but you look pretty pretty
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Speaker 9: accurate today. And he threw the ball through the ball
25:03
Speaker 9: pretty well. He can spin it. He's got some RPMs,
25:05
Speaker 9: I mean first round pick. But I thought defensively, particularly
25:09
Speaker 9: when it was the move at drill, neither team you
25:12
Speaker 9: don't get any points, you know, red zone seven on
25:17
Speaker 9: seven red zone, Packers had a little bit better success
25:20
Speaker 9: than the Bengals did in that regard. Overall, I'd say
25:23
Speaker 9: the Packers, you know, won the day, but it wasn't.
25:26
Speaker 9: It wasn't a total domination, a total like you know,
25:30
Speaker 9: stick ahead in the sand and don't bring it back out.
25:32
Speaker 2: It wasn't anything like.
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Speaker 1: That, particularly for the Bengals defense. The Packers offense I
25:37
Speaker 1: think probably had more successful plays than the Bengals offense,
25:41
Speaker 1: But the Bengals defense had plenty of good moments throughout
25:44
Speaker 1: the practice.
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Speaker 2: No question.
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Speaker 9: And you know, the the Green Bay Packers get some
25:50
Speaker 9: young skill guys, I mean young quarterback who has been
25:53
Speaker 9: working behind a future Hall of Famer. I don't think
25:57
Speaker 9: that's done anything but help them get ready to assume
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Speaker 9: his his role this year and succeed in it. And
26:04
Speaker 9: over the last two drafts they've drafted six receivers and
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Speaker 9: two tight ends that are all good weapons, and so
26:12
Speaker 9: it's a challenge out there. And then there's always, you know,
26:15
Speaker 9: not only the fact that it's like we talked about,
26:20
Speaker 9: if they faced configurations and formations, they hadn't seen lots packages,
26:26
Speaker 9: they hadn't seen fronts, they hadn't seen alignments in the
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Speaker 9: back end.
26:30
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a.
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Speaker 9: Totally different ballgame than they've been working against, throwing different
26:35
Speaker 9: people with different skills, and all of a sudden, your
26:38
Speaker 9: comfort zone is gone. It's so much different. It's it's
26:41
Speaker 9: it's game time out there.
26:42
Speaker 2: You know.
26:43
Speaker 9: It's it's very very very very similar to breaking a huddle,
26:47
Speaker 9: come to the line of scrimmage and it's it's game time.
26:50
Speaker 9: The difference is you haven't game planned, you know, for
26:53
Speaker 9: for the Green Bay Pack or so you know that
26:56
Speaker 9: that's a factor as well, although saying can be said
26:58
Speaker 9: for them they didn't. They didn't game plan against the
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Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals either, so that's a wash. But as far
27:05
Speaker 9: as getting ready for to play in an NFL game,
27:07
Speaker 9: you feel much more confident and comfortable going into those
27:10
Speaker 9: games when you've had a week of game planning.
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Speaker 1: We saw Joe Burrow out on the practice field for
27:15
Speaker 1: the first time since suffering his calf injury. He obviously
27:17
Speaker 1: didn't practice, but he was out there watching the action,
27:20
Speaker 1: communicating with his teammates and communicating with the coaching staff.
27:24
Speaker 1: Should we look at that as a positive? Do you
27:27
Speaker 1: take any meaning from his presence on the field today.
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Speaker 9: You know, I think being the competitive that he is,
27:33
Speaker 9: I mean, you could just imagine what's going through his head.
27:37
Speaker 9: I'm sure he's like, I want to be out there
27:39
Speaker 9: so badly with my teammates, taking these reps, getting ready,
27:43
Speaker 9: working against the quality defensive football team that's well coached,
27:47
Speaker 9: has great talent in their personnel. This would be sharpening
27:50
Speaker 9: me for the game against the Cleveland Browns up in Cleveland,
27:53
Speaker 9: and you know I can't do it, but I want
27:56
Speaker 9: to be out there. And you know, the good point
27:59
Speaker 9: was being made where he hadn't seen exactly what the
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Speaker 9: Green Bay package were presenting either. And it's not like
28:05
Speaker 9: he hasn't seen just about everything under the sun. He
28:08
Speaker 9: has at this point in time of his career, and
28:10
Speaker 9: he has incredible recall about it all. You can spit
28:13
Speaker 9: it back out for you exactly where people are aligned
28:16
Speaker 9: right away. But it's good to see it again. You know,
28:19
Speaker 9: it's not like he knows the Bengals defense cold. He's
28:22
Speaker 9: worked against it now for years. It's sophisticated. Lou has
28:27
Speaker 9: a lot of looks, but he's seen it all. But
28:29
Speaker 9: now Green Bay coming with some different blitz packages and
28:33
Speaker 9: some different personnel groupings and personnel within those groupings. So
28:38
Speaker 9: I'm sure he wanted to see it hands on instead
28:41
Speaker 9: of just watching tape. He probably wanted to test himself.
28:45
Speaker 9: All right, where would I go? Now? He's not out
28:48
Speaker 9: there just lollygagging around, you know, waving of the crowd.
28:51
Speaker 9: Joe Burrow's out there taking mental reps. He's out there
28:54
Speaker 9: listening to the play that's called. And there's no the
28:59
Speaker 9: you know, one of the periods, there's no scripting the plays.
29:02
Speaker 9: Whatsever It's just call it and run it, you know,
29:05
Speaker 9: and try to stay on the football field and move
29:08
Speaker 9: the ball drill. And I'm sure he was there here
29:12
Speaker 9: in the play call looking at the defense. What would
29:15
Speaker 9: I do? What would be my progression of reads? If
29:18
Speaker 9: in fact I were under center? Would I look for?
29:20
Speaker 9: What I look to audibilize out of this? Because you know,
29:23
Speaker 9: this is not a good look to run this play
29:25
Speaker 9: into you go through all those mental gymnastics, and I
29:28
Speaker 9: think that, in my mind was as big reason as
29:31
Speaker 9: any for him to be out there, just to go
29:33
Speaker 9: through the mental exercise and you know, sharpened that football
29:38
Speaker 9: IQ as best he can.
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Speaker 1: What would a joint practice be without a fight or
29:44
Speaker 1: fights plural? In this case, there was a big skirmish
29:47
Speaker 1: that broke out and then a little one after that
29:49
Speaker 1: number seventy four. The great left guard for the Packers,
29:53
Speaker 1: Elgie Jenkins, was involved in both. It looked like in
29:56
Speaker 1: the first he and BJ Hill were going at it.
30:00
Speaker 1: Prap might have been involved in that one. The second
30:02
Speaker 1: time around it was Jenkins and DJ Reader, and the
30:05
Speaker 1: Packers pulled Jenkins out at that point. But uh, no,
30:08
Speaker 1: matter what you try to do in these joint practices,
30:11
Speaker 1: the intensity is much higher than it is when you're
30:13
Speaker 1: competing against your teammates, and it gets feisty.
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Speaker 9: It does get feisty, and uh you know, I mean
30:18
Speaker 9: during the course of training camp and even in OTAs
30:23
Speaker 9: we've seen Ted Carriss and DJ Reader get into it,
30:25
Speaker 9: you know, And I mean it's it's just a competitive
30:28
Speaker 9: environment that that that's that's without you know, shoulder pads
30:31
Speaker 9: and helmets, on it, and it didn't turn into a fight.
30:33
Speaker 9: It was just you know, extracurricular pushing back and forth
30:37
Speaker 9: and challenging each other and uh and and getting a
30:40
Speaker 9: little heated.
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Speaker 2: But DJ Reader is a man, and so is uh.
30:45
Speaker 9: The Green Bay Packers have a man at the guard position,
30:47
Speaker 9: and neither one of them wants to give an inch,
30:51
Speaker 9: you know, their egos won't let them do that. And
30:54
Speaker 9: and DJ Hill is feisty too. I mean, it's it's
30:57
Speaker 9: it's a hot day, it's a humid day. I'm sure
31:00
Speaker 9: there were some things going on that it built up
31:03
Speaker 9: and built up on a snap by snap basis and
31:05
Speaker 9: boiled over. And the fact that it was both of
31:09
Speaker 9: the interior run stuffers going against a pretty good run blocker.
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Speaker 2: You know that.
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Speaker 9: Number one teammate was defended another teammate and number two
31:24
Speaker 9: in the initial fight didn't appreciate what was going on.
31:27
Speaker 9: I guess in terms of maybe a little extra pushing
31:30
Speaker 9: after the whistle, whatever the case may be. But you're right,
31:33
Speaker 9: it seems like what is a training camp practice against
31:38
Speaker 9: an NFL opponent without a scuffle.
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Speaker 2: As such.
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Speaker 1: DJ Reader didn't hold back, but asked about his tussle
31:46
Speaker 1: with Elton Jenkins calling the two time pro bowler a
31:50
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Speaker 1: preseason on Friday night at seven, and for the rookies,
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Speaker 1: it will be a night they will never forget. Many
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Speaker 1: of those rookies need to shine in the preseason games
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Speaker 1: to earn a spot on the roster or the sixteen
32:24
Speaker 1: man practice squad. And I spoke to one of those
32:27
Speaker 1: rookies this week.
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Speaker 2: One of the.
32:30
Speaker 1: Bengals rookie wide receivers played just up the road for
32:33
Speaker 1: the Miami RedHawks. We're talking to Mac Hippenhammer, who will
32:37
Speaker 1: wear the number fourteen in the preseason opener against the
32:39
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Mac, what's it going to mean to
32:41
Speaker 1: you to charge out of that tunnel as an NFL
32:45
Speaker 1: player in the opener against Green Bay?
32:47
Speaker 2: It's gonna be really surreal. I will say that.
32:51
Speaker 10: I mean I think this is an opportunity that a
32:53
Speaker 10: lot of people like can't really imagine, and I think
32:57
Speaker 10: for me, it's just it's surreal and just being able
33:00
Speaker 10: to take that in and understand what's around me and
33:03
Speaker 10: what I'm really walking out to.
33:05
Speaker 2: So it'd be it'd be pretty cool.
33:07
Speaker 1: You're from Fort Wayne, Indiana. What kind of rooting section
33:10
Speaker 1: are you going to have?
33:11
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's a good question.
33:13
Speaker 10: Probably mom and dad, my sister, maybe a couple of
33:18
Speaker 10: other relatives, but fairly small, but I think there'll be
33:20
Speaker 10: some family attendance.
33:22
Speaker 1: He went to the same high school as Jesse Bates.
33:24
Speaker 1: I believe you overlapped for one year in high school.
33:27
Speaker 1: Are you and Jesse friendly and have you been in
33:29
Speaker 1: contact since you signed with Cincinnati.
33:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like Jesse was like my best friend in
33:33
Speaker 2: high school.
33:34
Speaker 10: As soon as I like signed with the Bengals, he
33:36
Speaker 10: reached out immediately, was hey, like, I still got my
33:39
Speaker 10: place there if you need somewhere to stay, like, I
33:42
Speaker 10: got you. So it's kind of it's it's all love,
33:44
Speaker 10: and he congratulated me on the opportunity.
33:46
Speaker 2: It was just, you know, it was it was a
33:49
Speaker 2: good talking to him.
33:49
Speaker 10: Since he missed him by a year, but it was
33:52
Speaker 10: it was really good to talk to him about it.
33:54
Speaker 1: We're chatting with Mac kipping Hammer, rookie wide receiver out
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Speaker 1: of Miami University. You spent the last three years with
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Speaker 1: the RedHawks, but you started your college career playing football
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Speaker 1: and baseball at Penn State. You were starting outfielder for
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Speaker 1: the Niitney Lions. Why did you give up baseball and
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Speaker 1: do you miss it?
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Speaker 10: At one time, I was super passionate about baseball, and
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Speaker 10: you know, coming out of high school, like my dad
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Speaker 10: always said, play both of them as long as you can.
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Speaker 2: I obviously kind of took that to the heart.
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Speaker 10: So, you know, coming out of high school, I was
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Speaker 10: really passionate about both, and I think it got to
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Speaker 10: the point where I was like, I can't do this
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Speaker 10: for I can't do this forever and kind of have
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Speaker 10: to pick one. And I feel like my ceiling was
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Speaker 10: a bit higher, and you know, football, so I kind
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Speaker 10: of think that was the route I took. And then
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Speaker 10: my last year at Miami, you know, I didn't do
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Speaker 10: so well, so I was like, Okay, it's time to
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Speaker 10: hang it up.
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Speaker 2: But like the thing is with.
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Speaker 10: That, like if you want to be a really good
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Speaker 10: baseball player, Like I always say, like swinging the bats
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Speaker 10: like one of the hardest things to do, and like
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Speaker 10: for me to be able to achieve like the highest
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Speaker 10: level of baseball, I would have had it done a
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Speaker 10: year I would have I would have had to do it.
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Speaker 2: Like year round.
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Speaker 10: So it was kind of like, Okay, I'm at that point.
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Speaker 10: Well let's let's put all the tokens in where you
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Speaker 10: know my ceilings.
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Speaker 1: Highers, your last year of baseball might not have been great,
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Speaker 1: but your last year of football at Miami was last
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Speaker 1: year nine touchdown catches, including a thirty six yard TD
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Speaker 1: against the UC Bearcats in the Battle for the Victory
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Speaker 1: ball at pay Court Stadium. What were some of the
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Speaker 1: highlights of your college experience at Miami.
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Speaker 10: One of the best experiences top ten moments of my
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Speaker 10: life was probably going to the Bahamas ball That was
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Speaker 10: probably regardless of the result, that was probably like the
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Speaker 10: most amazing experience. Just being able to go to Atlantis
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Speaker 10: for a week with like your best friends and just
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Speaker 10: you know, go down slides and you know, I'm not
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Speaker 10: a gambler, but some of them were in the casino,
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Speaker 10: but just like and knowing that was my last time
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Speaker 10: with those guys that it made it all the more special.
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Speaker 2: So I think that was probably one of the best
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Speaker 2: experiences at Miami.
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Speaker 1: Why'd you like to sign with the Bengals as a
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Speaker 1: college free agent?
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Speaker 10: Really kind of my opportunities were very limited, and I
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Speaker 10: came in for I think it was like the rookie
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Speaker 10: mini camp, I believe, which they kind of do it differently.
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Speaker 2: It was only like it's.
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Speaker 10: Only one day, so you know, I wasn't really expecting
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Speaker 10: much out of that. And then you know, kind of
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Speaker 10: like twenty minutes after the workout on my agent calls said, hey,
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Speaker 10: Bengals are gonna sign and so I was like, okay,
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Speaker 10: let's you know, this is it now?
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Speaker 2: So I knew the opportunity was gonna come.
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Speaker 10: So it happened to be this one, and you know,
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Speaker 10: I just kind of hopped on it, and you know,
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Speaker 10: here we are.
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Speaker 1: So you are now part of the best wide receiver
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Speaker 1: group in the NFL. Jamar Chase, Tyler bowayde T Higgins,
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Speaker 1: and others. Let me get your thoughts on the Big three.
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Speaker 1: Beginning with Jamar what stands out about him.
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Speaker 2: Well he does really well was make contested catches look.
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Speaker 10: Really easy, and it's just like, like I looked to
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Speaker 10: the guy next to me, I'm like, how how does
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Speaker 10: that happen? But what I did realize is he's very strong,
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Speaker 10: Like in everything he does is row, you know, catching
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Speaker 10: down field and making people miss.
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Speaker 2: He's very sturdy overall.
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Speaker 10: T Higgins t was probably the one like I watched
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Speaker 10: the most just because, like, I've never seen somebody move
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Speaker 10: like that at his height. He runs his routes like
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Speaker 10: he's like five ten, which blows my mind. But he's
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Speaker 10: very very I would say fast too, and not only
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Speaker 10: just because you know he's got long strives, but he's
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Speaker 10: like legit fast.
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Speaker 2: So it's amazing what he can do. And I always
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Speaker 2: trying to take from his game. Tyler Boyd.
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Speaker 10: I think what he does really well is make every
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Speaker 10: route look the same, and he's very crafty. He's obviously
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Speaker 10: been doing this a really long time so and obviously
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Speaker 10: we play the same position. So it's fun watching him
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Speaker 10: because you know, I try to take after him, and
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Speaker 10: you know, in the slot rule and the way he
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Speaker 10: kind of runs his routes with confidence, like he knows
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Speaker 10: he's gonna get open and some of the situations he
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Speaker 10: gets and I'm like, I don't know how I would
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Speaker 10: have got open in there, but he makes every route
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Speaker 10: look the same, and you know it's exciting.
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Speaker 1: Best of luck and thanks for the time.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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