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Episode 88 Night of Champions 2025 review · Podcast Championship Wrestling

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: The journey is long, the path is hard, but the
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: destination distant, eternal gleaming, is somehow clear. Getting here is
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: framed by a question and shaped by a fight. But
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: maybe the fight isn't the hardest part.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's what you carry that's even heavier. Not just
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: the strength and will or the grit and belief.
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  Speaker 3: It's the other things.
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  Speaker 2: The pressure of.
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  Speaker 1: Expectation, the weight of opportunity, the burden of doubt, and.
• 0:56
  Speaker 4: The simple, central, unyielding question, are you enough? This is
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  Speaker 4: where you get the chance to find out.
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  Speaker 3: The steps time now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't be high. How strong is Dan Cargill? You
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  Speaker 2: are not ready? Long step Closa, some of the death chef.
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: For Tony Rubs, I have to do whatever it.
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  Speaker 5: Takes to get number fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: And for some.
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  Speaker 4: The last time is now to show the world who
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  Speaker 4: they truly.
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  Speaker 2: Are day in, day out nowadays are.
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  Speaker 6: For twenty five years, I have been the greatest.
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  Speaker 3: Of all time.
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  Speaker 7: It's time see him.
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  Speaker 2: Punk woke up as champion John Cena cem Punk one final.
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  Speaker 4: Match, the chance to define yourself in this kingdom, this.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: Moment, this match, this night as a champion and now
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  Speaker 2: w w E PRESSSS Night of champions. Hey, this is
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  Speaker 2: w W E and E c W alumni THEOK Bloomenie
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  Speaker 2: and you're listening to pc W.
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  Speaker 7: The question is, oh you.
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  Speaker 2: When I talk to I will give you a show
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  Speaker 2: like you have never ever seen the.
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  Speaker 3: Pot of life because I can't.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: What do you guys want to talk about? God from
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  Speaker 2: the colored red in a world with a black and
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  Speaker 2: white either a world?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let you love.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: If you don't go excopie the cha. What's a bigger mad?
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: You got a bigger mad? What I said?
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, churn vouge. Just welcome
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  Speaker 3: back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I
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  Speaker 3: am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken.
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  Speaker 3: And what are we gonna cover tonight? We're gonna cover
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  Speaker 3: Night of champions post show in Saudi Arabia, and if
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  Speaker 3: we have a little bit time, we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 3: maybe what matches have been added to the Great American Bash,
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: what matches may have been added to Saturday Night main event,
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  Speaker 3: what matches may have been added to Evolution. So we
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  Speaker 3: still have a lot of shif to cover. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna do this alone, So let me just go
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  Speaker 3: right ahead and introduce them. Here we go.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, it might have been telling you that.
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  Speaker 3: It's shutting me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, dang, it's just chucking me. Dang chucking me. Okay, dang.
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  Speaker 3: This is dad lot of them all, not for.
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  Speaker 7: Lack of damn black dam I did.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, it's on me nows.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, I'm gonna get him all.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get him all.
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  Speaker 3: I'mna Jim. Don't you welcome back? Dress?
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: Yo? Yo? What did do? Pc W crew main event?
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  Speaker 2: Dre whoso is back on your podcast?
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  Speaker 7: Man?
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  Speaker 3: It is it's hot here in the n p A.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how hot it is where you're at,
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  Speaker 3: but definitely huh as hell yeah, uh definitely not as
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  Speaker 3: hot as it probably was in Saudi though. I heard
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: that was a a fucking nightmare, as it always is
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  Speaker 3: when when they're there with the heat. Uh yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: must not be fun. Uh. Hey, we are not doing
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  Speaker 3: this alone, man, I'm gonna bring in somebody that we've
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: had on the show before. Here. He is Hovie from
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: Sofa King's Smarts podcast.
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  Speaker 5: How you doing, buddy, doing good? How are you guys
• 6:35
  Speaker 5: doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Hot? Hot? Dude? You want to talk about hot?
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  Speaker 5: It's one hundred, one hundred eleven degrees where I'm at
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred and eleven. Holy ship, you take the trophy, yo, yeah, win, yes, yeah, win.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: What's your humidity like that?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, humidity is not bad humidity. We I mean we're
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  Speaker 5: in the we're in the desert, so it's more dry heat.
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  Speaker 5: So my humidity is at fourteen percent.
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  Speaker 3: Oh dude, that's fourteen n yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I'll take this over whatever you guys, whatever you
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  Speaker 5: guys are dealing with over there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen fourteen percent humidity
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  Speaker 2: in Virginia in my life.
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  Speaker 3: Never. Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like minimum minimum sixty percent, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah right, yeah, I mean, like the sun just
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: went down, just back going down. It's like seventy two here,
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: but like during the day it was like ninety. But
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: you know, the humidity is high here. Yeah, it's sticky
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  Speaker 3: all day.
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  Speaker 5: I'll take this dry heat any.
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  Speaker 3: Day, dry absolutely, yeah. Man, I'm just I mean, he's
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: sweating my ass off at work.
• 7:48
  Speaker 5: Here where I live, right, we get as hot as
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  Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia. So we're looking at one seventeen's one nineteens
• 7:56
  Speaker 5: and some of the teens. So whatever, they're dealing with
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  Speaker 5: over there. It is not fun, man, It's terrible.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, especially like, you know, not being
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: used to wrestling in like such. I mean, I'm sure
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: back in the day when they were wrestling like high
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: school gyms or you know, shitty arenas. I mean, but
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: to come here and just just have to sweat it out, man,
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: and you know what, just wrestling with other people just
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't care who you are, just body
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  Speaker 3: on body, that kind of heat, that's got a that's
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: got a stench or some.
• 8:28
  Speaker 5: Kind oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then the women who got weired, the unfortunate one
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  Speaker 3: piece bodysuits, talking.
• 8:37
  Speaker 5: About sweat women, Yeah, I don't mind.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: It, yea, and in those suits and that he ain't
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  Speaker 2: nowhere for all that sweat. This escape is.
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: Just Meanwhile, gold Dust is like, hey, I've done it
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: for years. It's not a problem, a big deal, dude. Yeah,
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: it's it's ridiculous, ridiculous. Yeah, let's get into this pay
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: per view here, Trey, do you want to kick us off?
• 9:10
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: Yep. So, as you said, talking about Knight of Champions
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: a K A Night of some Champions or a few
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  Speaker 2: Champions a K A W w e in your house,
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  Speaker 2: bombs over Baghdad or wherever you want to call it.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna spin up stee on that one in your
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  Speaker 3: house over.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: In the Middle East. Ye'hall know where it took place,
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: Kingdom Center, Red, their capital, all that good stuff. Anyway,
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: it's p a billy. Kicked off with the finals of
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: the men's King of the Ring tournament featuring Randy Orton
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: taking on Cody Rhodes, which resulted in Cody Roads winning
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: via penfall to become, to absolutely nobody's surprise, twenty twenty
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: five King of the Ring. I mean, the match wasn't bad.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: Even if the outcome was predictable from a mile away,
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: the match itself was still decent enough. They told fairly
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: fairly decent story, with Cody being a bit more aggressive
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: than you would expect from a typical white bread baby
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: face and Randy Orton being the one to have a
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: bit of a conscious issue with him, you know, hesitating
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: to hunt Cody Roads, and Cody Roads deliberately targeting Cody's
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: i mean, Brandy's back and using that to his advantage.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, when you know the outcome
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: is already there, how much can you really how much
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: can you really be into the match? You know, like
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: I said, not a bad match, but it was just
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: more like just waiting for the inevitable. The only thing
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: that surprised me about is the fact that Randy went
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: down with just two crossroads. I figured he was at
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: least three crossroads worthy. He did kick out the first
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: one like I expected, but he did not kick out
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  Speaker 2: at number two. A little disrespectful. Fifteen time champion, he
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  Speaker 2: should be minimum three crossroads in a row. Maybe not
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: in a row. He ain't trivel chief territory, not in
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: a row. But I figured it was gonna be one
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: kickout and then two in a row for the win. Right,
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  Speaker 2: But then again, I guess when you crack your shit
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: on the damn unprotected turnbuckle, maybe that counts as half
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: a crossroads or something. So what were your thoughts on match? Wayne?
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: Let's let's start off with like how I brought up
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: last episode, how the logos in the ring and all
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: the ads that dude, we got one solid ad right
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: in the middle. That was it. There was There's none
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  Speaker 3: on you know, the barricades, there's none on the ring aprons.
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  Speaker 3: It's just says wwe Nighted Champions. It's dude, it no lie,
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: I kind of liked it. There was no Prime station,
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: it was clean, just had that one leg. It was right.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: The ring posts weren't done up like uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like it was a ridiculous Last week, I set up
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  Speaker 3: you know, the kid's wrestling ring, money in the bank
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  Speaker 3: wrestling ring, and I'm putting the stickers on it, and
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: there's logo was all over the damn place, and I'm
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: just like, this is what it should look like. But
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: now I know, like I gotta you know, thank god,
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: they don't come with it yet, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta put like advertisement stickers all over the goddamn plays.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: It was just ridiculous. So yeah, it was refreshing. No,
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  Speaker 3: not yet, but it has a lot of stickers on
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: it as of you know, for a toy, it had
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of stickers. But yeah, no, like.
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  Speaker 2: They were like sponsor stickers for you to put.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, not yet. But I'm saying like
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: one day, man, like get your own.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Like you know, would go straight in the trash.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Damn fan, dude, can you imagine? But but anyway, I
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: did get what I wanted. I got a Cody Cutter
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: turned into an r KO. I did say that because
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Cody was doing like a thousand Cody Cutters. He spent
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: most of his time bouncing off the ropes in this
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  Speaker 3: fucking match, and I was like, it was gotta get
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: caught in an r KO at some point, right.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I was also very surprised that they won
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: for the superplex like one minute into the match going, so,
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: you know, doing the superplex, you know, right off the bat,
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  Speaker 3: Orton was able to kind of like sell that back
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: injury during that entire match. And and I did say
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: that Orton what would be his downfall is he would
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: be he would have the window, that opportunity man to
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: to punt Cody in the head, and he would hesitate,
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: and that's what would fuck him over. And that's what
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: it did, the hesitation. And then you know, once he
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: saw another window that he might go all in heal
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: healish move, he took the turnbuckle off, but you know,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: he just waited too long a man, and and and
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: it got him it. He ended up hitting it and
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: in the ribs and one Cody Cutter and he was done. Yeah,
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: but it was still a pretty good match. So for
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: an opening match, say on nineteen minutes forty five seconds,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: it's still pretty decent.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Hoovie, what do you think good way to kick off
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: the pl Yeah, where you at.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Ben wasn't really a fan of this match, just because
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: it's too predictable for me. When a match is too predictable,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: it just takes away the entire the entire process. Like
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: I just I can't get into it unless there's like
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: a you know, pretty big spot. It doesn't really do
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: anything for me. The fact that Randy took the super
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: plex and hurt his back at the beginning, it was
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: just so uncharacteristic of him, so right off the bat,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: like you just even made it more predictable that he
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: was going to lose because he started doing things that
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: he normally doesn't do. But yeah, the fact that Cody
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: was just kind of going up and down and being
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: super Cody. It just it's like, come on, man, sell
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: it to me a little bit more. Give me, give
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: me a little bit more of like Randy at least,
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: you know, make believe that you know he's gonna win,
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: and then kind of Cody being the underdog I guess
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: in this in this uh versus his you know, his
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: mentor you know, sell that story again. But other than that,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: like it's just too predictable for me. And then Michael
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: Cole wasn't doing any favors of this match either.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exact, I'm in I'm in the same place
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: with you with it. Like I said, when we all
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: knew Cody was gonna win, So you're watching the match
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: and it's just like, all right, we all know the ending,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: how you gonna get there. So once they did finally
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: get there, we got the postmatch interview with Viyron Saxson
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: interviewing Cody, which you know whatever, don't like give a
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: shit what Cody said. The more interesting thing was happening
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: outside the ring with Randy looking back watching, looking visibly
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: upset and ejected, which is fueled speculation that a Randy
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Orton He'll turn is imminent, speculating this for over a
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: year now. The real question is, mm hmm.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, he'll Randy is the best Randy.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: He'll Randy is the best of Randy. But my question
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: is can Randy even be heel at this point in
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: his career, Like, even if he were to turn on
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Cody or whatever, would fans even really boo.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Him, Like, is he like in that John Cena window
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: where like, you know, he's a heel, but we're still
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: fucking cheering him.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I got Seena got some booze, Like he's gotten some booze.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Granted they didn't last long before fans have, you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: started to share him. But Scena can can pull a
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: boo out out of the fans. He can, and he's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: shown that can Randy And can he do it against Cody?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: For anybody you know over the age of eleven?
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, like, I feel like there comes
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: a certain point in your career wrestling career where you've
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: reached like a status where it's of respect from us
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: as fans that we don't boo you or you know
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: what I mean.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a certain level of immunity at a
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: certain point, and I wonder if Randy's at that point.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I feel like he is.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, we all know he can be a heel.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: He can absolutely heal it up like it ain't nobody's business, right,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But if he were to, like if he would have
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: went back in that ring and rkl the fuck out
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: of uh Cody, would anybody have booted? Maybe the Saudi
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: crowd would have I feel like some people back in
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: stations would have been like, hell yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: I think I think it goes in this And because
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: I look at it from this point of view, you
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: have your casual fans, then you have us your marks.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: For the casual fans. Yes, the answer is yes, Randy
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: can definitely get the booze because of the casual fan.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: For the marks, it's what we want, you know what
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I mean. But for Randy to get the booze, he
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: has to do something drastic like beat up a Cody
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Rhodes and you know, send him to you know, I
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: r if you will get him out of there, get
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: him out of the picture, and then have Cody come
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: back and face Randy Orton. That's really the biggest thing
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: is take out, take down the biggest babyface. Otherwise you're right,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: no one's really gonna believe this. Heel Randy Orton because
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: he needs to have some kind of quote unquote passion
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: to go after you know, his fifteenth belt, and Cody's
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: in the way, like you have to have some kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: of story with him. And if he's not interested, we
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: know that Randy, if he's not interested in the story,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: he's not going to do anything to make it better.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: So it has to be something in the back end
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: that Randy has to agree with and have him basically
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: wrestle his heart out out there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And consider the fact that this is an older Randy Orton,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: this is this is a father. Now does he even
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: want to be a heel anymore? Yeah, it might not
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: be of interest to him. He may be of this
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: mindset of I've been there, I've done that. Let me
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: just you know, be the veteran and let me just
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: stay a baby face from the kids for the rest
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of the year. Maybe he doesn't want his kids seeing
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: an arena Buddha hell out of them. Or I'm having
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: to do what it would take for him to really
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: get over as a heel, because, like you said, if
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: he's just kind of phoning it in as a hell,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: it ain't gonna work, you know, not after we got
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you know, people's talk about you know, oh nine, Randy
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Orton is a thing. People show the pictures of Orton
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: from that era and it means something. Yep, you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that's that's up there with other you know, wrestlers of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a specific point in their career that people strongly connect with.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: So the problem. The problem with that is that they
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: can't go back to oh nine, Randy Organ. They can't
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: go back to the punching could the punting the people
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: because you know more obviously more and more kids watch it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: There's more. Uh, social media is a bigger impact, so
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: kids have access to seeing that kind of stuff. And
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: then't you know, what's the disclosure in the beginning of
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: every show, don't try this at home. People are gonna
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: try it, so they just won't go back to that
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Randy Organ more.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Stuck with this rand Yeah, I believe yes and no
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: to that effect because obviously the messages always don't try
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: this at home, but they also do way wilder ship
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: now in the ring now than what they used to do.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: And nine, well, when you were kids, well, you guys
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: always pull on each other. I mean when I was
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: a kid, we were going around giving each other diamond
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: cutters before the r KO.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, like I said, when I was
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a kid, the most devastating thing we were doing to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: people was a DDT. Yeah, because that was the most
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: devastating thing we saw on wrestling, like see like killed
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: people in the eighties.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Fucking do you run an kids right now?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: These motherfuckers are doing damn falcon arrows off the ropes
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and every other match and ship and jumping from ring
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: apron to announcer's tables like it ain't nobody business. So yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a punt is relatively tame by today's standards. Seth rollins
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: stomping people heads into the mats every other week, freaking
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: ben ballor doing double stumps on people's chests. The hell,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the punt might not resonate like now like it used to. Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: See, Randy was doing punts to everybody, not just not
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: just wrestlers, which is the biggest.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Difference, right that part.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I mean, I don't know. I hope, I
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: hope we're wrong. I hope we're wrong on this. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: want Randy, I want that, you know, that Legend Killer.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Come bring back the Legend Killer. Yeah, that's what made
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: me fall in love with the character of Randy Orton,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: And if we can get that back, that'd be awesome.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I would love to see him be a
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: heel again, and it loved him to make it work.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to find a different way to make
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it work now, because, like I said, people, he blinds
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: up the punt people now and the crowd gets hyped
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: board yep, because they want to see the punt. So
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: that ain't gonna work as a heel tactic.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: So mhmm, yeah, because he misses all the time now,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: so people just you know, because.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: He didn't Yeah, he didn't do it or something way.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So guys, let me ask you. We have the
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: American Nightmare T shirt. How many Rehide Nightmare T shirts?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Do you think they sold?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Zero? Because I don't think that shirt existed.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: No, it existed. It's in the.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Crowd A nightmare shirt.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's green. It's like that John Cena green. Yeah.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I was like I saw wearing it and I was like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: oh shit, gh hmmm.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Idea was that? You know what? Yeah, you ain't never
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: seen a dollar day didn't like.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I know, yeah, green shirts. So Rehab Nightmare Nightmare.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: How many shirts they sell?
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but one is too many.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So when they do clash in Paris, are they going
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: to do the French Nightmare?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah? That's what I mean, Like, where is it? Stop?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm okay with. You know, when shirts
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: go on, we'll say, uh tour, right, the John Cena
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: shirt tour that's cool, right, that's all.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: This makes sense. But you know what, I was out there,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: who are collecting every single one for every city? Yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: when they get done, somebody's gonna be on social media
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: posting every single shirt he wore this year. Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: The only other shirt that I think I.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Got the whole set shirt, wristband, socks, cap, the whole.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Kid because the only other shirts that go on like tour,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I guess you could say is that there's always like
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Philly three sixteen, you know, any three sixteen wherever you're from,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, always was also one too.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, super like city. That's a good one. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: then it's just like the standard WW event is in
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: your town or something like that, Like, yeah, the standard
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: T shirt, the one that the guy's selling in the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: parking lot as you're leaving the event, not before because
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: he for someone raison. Sometimes I'm not there before the event,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: but after the event, when you're trying to get the
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: hell out of there, Hey, do you want to buy
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: a shirt?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: No?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Man, where were you before I went in when I
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: didn't have a fucking shirt? Where were you? Yeah you weren't. Yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I don't want the shirt. The event's over, I'm going home.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Or you know what I did. Yeah. Yeah, they did
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a couple with the jus Yeat shirts for a while there.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I think they were doing like different colors based upon
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: cities associated with sports teams. But they probably could have
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: done more with that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for a while with like he would wear
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: it was a heel, he would wear the local jersey.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they're doing that now with his
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: with his uh his retirement tour. Every city that he
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: goes into the shirt matches whatever their local sports team.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Genius marketing, genius.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm ready for the next match.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yep. So next match, Real Ripley facing Raquel Rodriguez in
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a street fight. And they did they even call it
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: a Ria street fight or something street fight.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: They call it the Red Boulevard street fight.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Why were the stones and they're not casting any steps?
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I tested. I texted my my, uh my co host,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: and I said, I don't see any stones or akas.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: I don't So this is in a hot fight.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I oh, go ahead, Drey, I was going to get
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: into it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Oh no, good, good, you got okay.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: So we have cat woman versus cat Woman. There's black
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: latex outfits man, gotta be hot in that gotta be hot.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I just picture of Ria because hers is like more
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: of a shinier outfit. Her just walking by, it's all squeaky. Uh.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I did enjoy the Uh. I did enjoy this fucking match.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Man who says that Raquel and Ria can't put on
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: a good match together did the chair shots to the face.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I guess we We talked about this in the discord,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: but I guess now chair shots are basically throwing chairs
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: at people. Yeah, that's the new Yeah. The part where
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Rhea was tied up in the ropes and getting whacked
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: in the dam's ribs with that kendostick O man, even
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, my my stomach was like I'm feeling that, dude.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I love the one spot where Ria tries to jump
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: off the I think it's like the top rope and
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: then Raquel catches her into a power bomb. Maybe that
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: was outside the ring, but that was pretty impressive. Like
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Raquel is like one of the few women on the
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Ross who can, like, you know, whatever Ria throws at her,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know I can, Yeah, dude, she can
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: take it, Like you know, she could run the ropes
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: and like stand there and take it. So I thought
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that's you know, this was gonna be definitely good match,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and it was, and we got the the belt smacks
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Man had taken off that belt, that belt from Spencer's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: gifts or whatever. It looks like throwing with all the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: holes in it, that thing that had no wind resistance. Man,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: that thing was just fucking swinging. All you heard, the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: thing was swinging. She she beat her ass a couple
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: of times, and I feel like that's probably the receipt
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: for the kendo sick. But then again I was like maybe,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: but like she whooped her ass with that belt, waly
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: crap I did not enjoy. There's a few spots I
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: did enjoy. Okay, So instead of breaking the table, they
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: broke the cover to the table, like with the logo
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: on it. That made it made no sense. But what
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: also didn't make sense?
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get that, Like why didn't we put
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: them through the table? Was it just because these they
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: just didn't want the table busted, saving it for another match?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but but yeah, like the the way
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: they had it set up, like she was she was
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: not really was not looking behind her as she was
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: about to do that spot, and I was like, holy crap,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: like you better clear that because if not, like for Kels,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: the spine is going to go right on that barrier
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: to snap her back in half.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But she she.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Cleared it, you know, she put her through it. But
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: then we had that weird table spot at the end,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: like some mattress and they had kind of some weird endings,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and that this one had a weird one. They they
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: the table had one leg and they set it on
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the top rope and they had the one leg kind
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of down pinned in between the ropes, which I thought
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: was kind of clever. And then they stood on top
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: of the table, which was kind of like parallel to
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: the top of the rope so that you don't really
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: get any higher. And they didn't break the table, you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I guess she did. Reid did her finish her, and
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: you know, it was a good spot, but like the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: whole table thing was probably not even necessary. It had
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: been cooler if the table was on the ground. Maybe
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: that was the initial plan before the light broke, I guess,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and very predictable. We said rock sand would show up,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: right rock Sand Prez definitely happened, and even further they
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: ran with the storyline on Monday Night Raw where Rock
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: sand Prez takes a lift Morgan's title and just weasels
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: her way into Judgment Day. But also before I move on,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: before you guys take over, I will say it also
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: was a relief. Every table that came out did not
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: have a slim GYM logo. Not once did I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: about slim GYM. No Kendo sticks with labels, no steel chairs,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: you know, no, dude, it was it was fuck dare
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: if I say it enjoyable? The Saudi Show had small
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: things that I enjoyed, and that was one of them. Drake,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: They don't need the sponsors, No, not what.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: We give you fifty million dollars.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Don't you bring now one of them goddamn sponsors over here?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Is that how much it takes for WW to be like,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: all right, no sponsors fifty mil?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Huh okay, yeah, So I mean this match, the match
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: itself was good. This is probably the best match I've
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: seen out of Roquel Rodriguez since she went to the
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: main roster. Easily, I agree, easily the best match. She said,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: So she did a lot to show that, you know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: she can actually have a good match, and she's not
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: just cannon fodder for the other strong women on the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: main roster. That being said, I did not like the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: fact that Ria won. I mean, I get it. Ria
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: super babyface right now, so she gonna win like ninety
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: percent of her fucking matches against anybody who win a champion,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and maybe they needed her to win to justify her
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: coming out on Raw Monday the challenge EO for the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: World Heavyweight Champion for the Women's World Championship again which
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: sidebar EO Sky has not defended that title since WrestleMania.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Dude, that's fucking what.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: The fun crazy?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Here we are? We're giving ship to like guys like
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: brock Lessener and stuff when he was champion, Like here,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: she's on the active roster and she's backstage.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've barely not barely shown her on TV. Got
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: her freaking anyway, Let me not get distracted before I
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: go off on the tangent Back to the match. So, yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: like I said, I did not like this winning. And
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: to me, it would have made more sense if if
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: rock Sand showing up would have aided Raquel winning the match,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and then they would have made more sense for him
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: to be like Hey, you helped Raquel Robert just beat
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Real Ripley. Welcome to the Judgment Day. Not like, yo,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you showed up and got your ass kicked that we
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: still lost, but come on in anyway like that just
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: just kind of seems like, Okay, well you a loser
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: with the rest of us, but we all got gold,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: so come on in like that part of that part
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: of the storyline doesn't make much sense.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: But this match didn't help anyone's storyline whatsoever.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Help nobody's storyline.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Real winning didn't help anyone.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: No, didn't help anyone. That didn't really help Ria other than,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: like I said, just provide an excuse for her to
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: show up on Raw and demand to challenge to challenge
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: EO for the women's world title, which I feel like
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: she probably could have done that in any fucking way
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: because Real Ripley over as fuck so or they could
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: have at least or they got, you know, two weeks,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: they could have held a number one contenders match or
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: something between her and somebody found another way. That was
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: my biggest gripe with it. And like I said, when
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: you already brought up the table spot or whatever the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: hell that setup was on the side at the beginning
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: of the match, which made no sense because it was
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: just the announcers a top of the's now only the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: announces table between barricades for no fucking reason other than
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: just hey, throw your opponent through. This made no sense.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: But setting all that aside, the match was still a
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: good match, and it was a very good It was
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: a good street fight match too. You know, the only
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: thing this match, that match probably didn't have was blood
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: in it, which you know, wwe ain't there yet as
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: far as women bleeding, So I don't.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Think they're allowed to biley out there.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Not intentionally. Yeah, definitely not allowed to bleed intentionally.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: We're talking about color.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile over in a you better fucking bleed.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: My my my issue with with the match, where was
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: just the the ending, like you guys say with the
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Avalanche rip Tide. My problem with it was that Raquel
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: loses to every other woman with a finisher that's not
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: even that it doesn't come close to the original rip Tide,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: and really Rhea had to finish her with the Avalanche
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: rip Tide. It's just it just doesn't make sense because
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: she loses, she she loses to roll ups and other stuff,
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: and you had to do all this stuff to beat Raquel.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Come on, they should have been building her up Raquel
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: for a long time to justify the Avalanche rip Tide.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: And it's just like stuff like that that I have
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: issues with when it comes to wrestling. There's just no
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: need for anything like that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I get that point, but I would argue that the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: fault isn't in Rea needing the Avalanche riptide to beat Raquel,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: but rather all those other mediocre when finishes and pinfalls
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: that Raquel took in the past she should have never
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: been taking, which I think was some of the point
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that you were making that Yet she should have getting
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: built up more before this point. But now the fact
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: that they're here now, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: hold that against them being here now, but they just
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: now that this is where they're at. This is where
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: they need to stay with Raquel. She came going from
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: taking an Avalanche riptide to lose to uh, you know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: real Ripley, and then, you know, two weeks from now,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: freaking Ivy. Now Ivy Nile is hitting her with a
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: freaking you know, uh backslide for the three for a
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: three count.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, you can't do that. That's always been
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: the issue with how w W book served their talent
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: is every everything's so lopsided. There's no there's no balance
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: between wins and losses there, right, she.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Should she should be shed be should really Raquel should
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: be because looked at as one of the most dangerous women
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: on the roster, she'd be should be looked at just
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: as dangerously as a Naya Jacks or Ria or any
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: of the other big women. But she seems to be
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the one that's like, I mean, she she big, but
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you can get you can get her. She seems like
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the big easy win.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: I do want to say I give kudos to the
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: ref in this match because the ref, you know, when
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: when they did the avalanche rip tight, he was holding
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: onto the table because it was very very flimsy. And
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: then the other spot was when when they when they
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: threw each other in the stairs and then with the
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: steel stairs on the side of the the ring, the
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: ref was held onto the stairs because if that if
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: those stairs would have fallen, they would have busted someone's head.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Because that corner almost hit I can't remember who was,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: but that corner almost hit one of the girls. And
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: that would have just tore them.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: They could almost hit Raquel because she was the one
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: who took the drop car. Yeah yeah, the face and yeah,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you're right, the referee held on to it to keep
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: it from falling off the apron onto her.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we forget how important, how important these these refs are. Man,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Sometimes they can make or break some of the matches.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: And we'll talk about that and later match.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Although in the street fight you could almost argue maybe
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: that damn stairs should have fallen on her.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Sell the hardcore I would love that.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That's how a w thinking. So any other thoughts on
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: this match, I just.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I enjoyed everything. But that's just one minor detail. That's it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I had fun with this match, if
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: that's how I can sum it up. I had fun
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Agreed. So next match we had Sammy Zay facing Carrying
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Cross and a singles match, which for some stupid ass
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: fucking reasons, Well I'm gonna say some stupid ass fucking reason.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: We all know why. Because Saudi Arabia, Sam's ain't got
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the damn win. Yep. Because he's about as close to
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the hometown hero as they got in WWE. Right now, so,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: like I said, in our.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Tradition, Oh dude, I remember man Man Sam and uh
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: who was after him? Yeah, it's just man. Sorry remember Yeah?
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Then they fired them both. You know. Those guys were like, yeah, dude,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: my job is secure at least two days, two days
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: out of the year. Man, it's my time is shine.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: My job is secure.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Noop, They said, nope, we got one of y'all. It
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: looks like us we'll need you. Oh man.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: This was another case of uh the bron person one yep,
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: at least for the marks.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: For the marks, absolutely, because no fucking reason for Sammy's
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: ain't to win other than they're in Saudi. He the hometown. Ye,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: no reason for carrying across with all this supposed momentum
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: that he has, all this fans support. It's almost like
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: they're doing it in spite of They're like, yeah, we
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: know the fans like you. Yeah, we know the fans
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: support you. Fuck that, we're gonna bury you because of it.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: It's almost like that's how it feels. We're gonna show
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you off on TV to make the fans happy and
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: then just make you take l's and look dumb because
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: you are not what we want, right, now you can almost
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: argue that they're doing the same damn thing with Ron
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Killing's right now.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I just think we're gonna get back to the Ron
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Killings storyline after I don't know, Yeah, I was thinking.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: The question though, is what is the storyline? All he's
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: done is to show up and Johns need to get
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: your ass out here. I'm driving now, like, like he's Ron,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: but he's just as dumb as our truth was.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Johnson him first, how man, because he's been calling him
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: out and he hasn't come out.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been calling him out, and he's also ran
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: up and attacked him. But I don't know, I just
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: feel like that storyline has not moved anywhere since he
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: came back. Yeah, I just think I'll starting to see
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Ron is just a no different from our truth. No,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Like I said, how many times you got to come
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: out every week and say I'm driving now.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Well, how far might be a long drive? Calm down?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: At some point, at some point you start to sound
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like a fucking idiot. I say a little slow and simple.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: And the only reason why I say patience is because
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: right now you have to put butts and seats for
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Summer Slam and the only way you can do that
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: right now for two nights is to have Cody seen
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: I personally, I think I I think we talked about
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: this last time I was on the show. Is my
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: wish is that Ron Killings is the one that takes
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: the belt from Sina, and you built it so so
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: slowly so that the crowd can get back into him
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: and get used to Bron Killings as opposed to, you know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: leaving truth behind. So you build that little story little
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: by little, week by week where he's kind of find
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: him and kind of like where they were doing with
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: the twenty four to seven Belts, where he's kind of
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: just all around the arena things like that, you know
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: something something along the line and then they meet up
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: at I don't know, uh, Survivor's series or something like that.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I would love to believe in that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, yeah, me too, Like.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Just like what I'm seeing now with them, the same
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: thing with Cross taking it back to the match. It
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: just seems like ww's being spiteful right now.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah. With with Cross, sometimes I think like everything points
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: in the direction like this guy should be pushed. But
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: then you know, you think, and it's just my thinking
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: is like maybe there's some kind of attitude issue in
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: the background that we're just we just don't know because
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: he gets blacklisted almost everywhere.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: He goes mm hmm.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: But I feel like if there was an attitude problem
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: or something like that, they wouldn't even bother putting him
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: on TV, even with the fan backlash, that if he
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: has some sort of attitude issue, with some sort of
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: attitude problems like that, they would just truly bury him.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't even bother putting him on TV. They would
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: just like go to fuck home. As deep as their
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: roster is, they have no reason to actually use him
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: if they don't want.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: To see I look at it from the point of
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: view of like when Russe russaid Dave was the thing
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: with Vince, they had to put him out there because
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: he was so over. But russev was definitely attitude because
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: he had the same issue in ady W. He didn't
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: get booked because he was a terrible attitude backstage. So
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: that's why I kind of compare these two in the
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: same spot because it doesn't make any reason, It doesn't
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: make any sense why Karen Crosses can be pushed right,
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: And that's that's where I look at it because obviously
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: the fans want it, the the locker room wants it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: It's they have they can print money with care across.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: His music's awesome, his promos are amazing.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Don't forget about his hot wife.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: You know. It's yeah, I mean that's ghostuf saying, but
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: it just doesn't make sense. Man, I don't understand it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: But the one I think one noteworthy difference between Cross
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: and Russef is Russef Day and all that stuff. That
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: ship was happening on Raw. That shit was happening on
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: you know, the main program every week. These crowd reactions
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and stuff that we've been that have been swelling up
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: for Cross have been happening on main event the show.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Don't nobody watch. All we've really gotten from him over
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Raw has been backstage segments, you know, and you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: little bits here and there, briefly here and there since WrestleMania.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: But if they really wanted to just put akebas to that,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: they could just not show him on TV, keep him
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: on main event and like, yeah, you get get Pops
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: on main events, So the funk would Ain't nobody watching
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the main event? Don't like here, ain't no storylines being
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: told on main event, like they could easily bury him,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: but they're still choosing to put him on television on
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Raw and even go as far as booking this match
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: for for uh, you know, for for for for Night
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: of Champions, But to what end? It seems. That's that's
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: why it feels like it's it's spiteful, like, oh, y'all
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: like this guy, Okay, we're gonna put him out here
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: and he ain't gonna accomplish shit. We're gonna put him
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: out here, let y'all cheer for him and make him lose,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and then we're gonna look back at y'all like, see too.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't know that Tojo, he couldn't get over because
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: y'all booked him that way. Y'all booked him pitifully. Yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: y'all booked them terribly as hell. So of course it's
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: you know, this fat, this thing that you know y'all
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: are trying to make into a or portray as it's
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: just a passing moment or a passing fad will become
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: so because you book it to be. So I know,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: it seems I don't.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: Know Mad Max Suit, That's what That's why that's my
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: positive take on this good.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Because at least he's still out here doing God's work
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: all waters past Monday, beating the funk out of samse
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: with that lad pipe. You know, so I still appreciate that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: But where is it gonna go? You know? Is he
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: still attacking sam'se Ain't just for them to have another
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: match that he loses.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I will believe.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I believe that w W believes in Cross when he
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: actually wins something, When he actually wins a match against
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: a noteworthy person the right, then I'll have faith that
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: they might actually be doing something with him. As long
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: as he's having backstage segments and losing matches when it matters,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: then ww' is just being spiteful. And as far as
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned, right.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I think this match was kind of like right where
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: it should be too, on the cars, like right in
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: the middle.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: You know, I can't even remember what they did in
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: this match, that's how much I didn't care for it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it, Karen Crosses pretty much dominating the match,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: the whole match.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, even to the point the fuck out of
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Sam's Ain't in this match.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he got I love when he got him. He
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: got him with those German suplexes man just tossing his
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: ass around the ring. He got him in the cross
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: jacket at their Blue Thunderbomb, which never finishes anybody, but
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: I think is a lot cooler of a finisher than
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: the halluva kick. But yeah, he had him in the
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: crossjack and they did the whole you know, oh my god,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: he's he's out, and they raised the three the hand
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: three times. He hulks up, you.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Know, speaking of that part, when the fuck we bring
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: back the three count for the arm check?
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I know, that's what obviously, when that.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Should come back. How many times we've seen people being
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: sleeper holes and that ongo up one time fall to
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: the mat and they call for the bell whenever they
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: want to. But Sammy, somehow he gets the privilege of
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: a three count.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, and then you know it just it
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: turns so quickly the match. Cross had the match and
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: then just turned so quickly from a roll up to
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: a to a halluva kick, and it.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Was over one halluva kick and that's it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Dude, guy has ass whopped the whole match one halluva kicking,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Like well he done? Yeah, like fucking disrespect.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: That move is so protected and it's so dumb, right.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who lou kick, it's a hell of a kick.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: We know what says. The Blue thunderbomb is by far superior, right.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: I think the problem is he can't. The problem with
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: it is that he can't do it to everybody, which is,
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: you know you want to finish it, you can do everybody.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: That's the only reason.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean as a finisher, I'll admit I'm more
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: a little more partial to the Halluver kick because it
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: has more impact, Like the Blue thunderbomb. It's a it's
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: a slam. I mean, I'm not buying somebody of Sammy's
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Ay's size beating people with a blue thunderbarb. The fact
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: that he pulls that damn move off, honestly kind of
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: bugs me to a certain extent.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Like has a belly to belly finisher? Dude?
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which ate her finisher? No more trying to make
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: this rose plant thing work, which ain't it? Honestly, Bailey
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: should probably just go to the freaking Randy Savage ebo.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: The rose plant don't look good. The belly to Bailey
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: or Bailey, the belly whatever whichever one it is, that
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: don't hit like it used to, especially not in today's
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: women's division with the moves they be pulling out. They ass,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know, she might be she might, she might
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: the old fashioned elbow.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Drop and man, now we're we're seeing moves like the
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: soul snatcher, right.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Soul snature, the ko d rip tide.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, women are bringing new, better fucking moves like step
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: up your game and ship.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: She can't even really, she can't even really hit. The
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: elbow drop is the finisher when goddamn Kyrie saning out
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: here with the insane elbow shipping all over everybody. Elbow drops.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot. There's a lot with Bailey we need
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: to improve, starting with her moves and her music.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Calm down, calm down, called down, just.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: Her moves, interview, inner music, that's all.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: So much on this show.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she improved her out for this week on RAW.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: And I approve, Oh.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: My lord, I approve. I always approve it. Being this office.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Was just a little when.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: I when I was at RAW a few weeks ago
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: when she attacked Becky, I mean, I got last I
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: got last minute tickets, and you know, we set at
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: the way top and I could see that thing from
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: the hell I was from that's how that's how nice
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: that was.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: One day she gonna wake up and just decided to
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: break the Internet. One day she's just gonna wake up
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: and decide, like, you know what, fuck this ind ofnet,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I'm breaking it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: Today, mm hmm, and I will be here for it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: When she decided to do it.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: We should probably get back to this paper review before
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: we get sidetracked by Bailey's big ass booty.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Give a funk about sorry as Sammy's name getting his
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: bulls went over carrying cross. I agree.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Before we move on, I will say there was a.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Time Sami's privilege needs to stop.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I will say there was a point in time when
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Bailey and Sasha Banks were tactic partners and I was like, damn,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: if only Bailey would get into the same type of
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: shorts that Sasha Banks wears No never.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Happened apparently did to a Beonce concert a few years ago. Yeah, yep,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: too bad to one picture she took was over her
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: sitting down. She knew not to get a picture standing up,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: and then it would have broke right then.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Sh.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: So how much this match mattered? Yep, we all were
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: here talking about Bailey instead of fucking Sammy's ay and
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: his damn privilege. Hey. Moving on to the next match,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: we had Solo Socoa facing Jacob Patu for the United
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: States Championship and I'm pretty sure to everyone's surprised, Solo one.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: What right, you're crazy? Man?
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Is our new United States Championship thanks to the help
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: of I don't forgot that. J. C. Matteo. Yeah, a
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: returning Tongaala and a debuting Hikuleu who was apparently going
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: by the dumbest fucking name since Giant Gonzalez where they're
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: now calling him apparently Tala Tanga. I wonder why he's taller,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: because he's taller than everybody else in the fucking blood line. Ah, dude,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: fucking brain cells did it take to come up with
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: that stupid ass name? A damn did they really? I
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: feel like they thought of that name right before he
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: went out to the ring. That sounds like a They're like,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: all right, you're ready to go, go go. He's already
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: out there, and somebody was like, wait, what the fuck
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: do we call him? And it was like ship.
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, So, not to burst your bubble, but that's his
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: first name is Tala. His real first name is Tala
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: but you're but what you said makes perfect sense.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like some Vince would have done, like
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: what's your name?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Everybody's real name?
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: Me?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, tick off, everybody has a great real name.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Louis Louis. No, yeah, yeah, you're tall, some bitch Kaya Tala.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he told me the name like John Cena and
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: you can just make that work.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're born with.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: The name Tala and you end up being seven feet
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: tall and you just need to keep that to yourself.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Six foot eight stounds. So he's a he is a
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: big guy, you know.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: It's yeah, his his name is spelled t a U
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: l a as opposed to the t A t A
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: l a as the yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: And ain't nobody at that announce table culture enough to
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: try to put the nuance on that.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: The worst part was was Michael Cole watching the name.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: He had no idea what to call.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: This is Tom.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Until the the post press conference, Right, didn't Solo when
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Solo want to reveal what his name was with me?
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: No, Michael, Michael Cole said it, but he watched it.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: It took him a while. Yeah, Michael Cole was I
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: defend I usually defend Michael Cole because I definitely I
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: enjoy him, but today, this, this this night was not
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: good for him, wasn't his night.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: That just leads more evidence in my opinion, that they
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: thought of that name in the fucking moment. God, he
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: was already halfway to the ring and they were like, ship,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: what are we call it? Him? And Michael Cole might
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: have muted this Mike for a second, Yeah, what the
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: fuck is his name? Yeah, I don't know, I don't
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: know bs for a while, we'll get back to you.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: And he was probably in the middle of talking and
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: somebody just wisped in, tell t huh what is talented?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: What the huh? Yeah, that's probably how I went.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: He could could have been one of those things where
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: as he said it out loud, he realized, how.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Tell me what it's I'm really saying this, you're staying
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: it while simultaneously thinking to yourself, am I really saying this? Ship? Yeah?
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: At this point, unfortunately, it's too late to put the
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: toothpaste back into tube. Yep.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: I just like here in uh, Jacob, you tell the
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: ref to shut your ass up, bitch. It was like
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: right in the right in the very beginning, and told
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: the rough to shut your ass up, and then I
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: think about it, Uh, all right, that one didn't have
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: a female ref. That was the last match, But yeah,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: that was pretty funny.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. The match itself was actually pretty good.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very entertaining.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Solo still mocking the ship out of people, which I
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: fucking love that.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: I love Solo so much.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Solo did not look weak in this match at all.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: He looked genuinely strong against Jacob. Jacob looked strong against Solo,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: taking that beat down and making his comeback and you know,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: fighting off the rest of the Whoever, I don't want
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to call them bloodline two point zero, like three two
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: point five.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: What I see online is everyone calling him.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: The three point oh, I guess with a lowercase be
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: whatever the fun we want to call him there?
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Oh lord?
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But I mean everybody looked good, Everybody looks strong,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: and we got the surprise again finish of Solo now
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: being US Champion. So now we get Jacob and the
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: cha to get his title back, which I think I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: think works great for both of them. I think, as
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I think Jacob becoming US Champion was a little too soon.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: They were just kind of, you know, capitalizing on his
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: popularity in the moment to throw a belt on him,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: and it was probably sooner than he should have been champion.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Solo needs some redemption, He needs some rehabilitation as far
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: as being credible, because ever since he started talking, it's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: just been downhill for him ever since. So him getting
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: this win, he can now have a run as champion,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: and hopefully, hopefully it's not just exclusively focused on Jacob
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: and Jimmy and whoever else steps up to challenge them.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I would like to see him be a right, I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: like to see somebody else kind of you know, jump
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: in the mix and let Solo put the beat down
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: on them a little bit too. As as champion. Obviously
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be eventually gonna get back to say,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Jacob and them, wuldn't mind somebody else interjecting themselves into
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the picture in the meantime or in between you just
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: to kind of buy more time and to help Solo
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: firmly establish himself as US champion.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, bring it back as the TV title and have
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: them defended every week.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like it's it's nice at the elevation,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: but the attention that the United States.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Arguably, yes, that would work to a certain extent if
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: they were really committed to building it up like that,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: But I don't think they would. I don't know that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Solo is the person for that. You need you for
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: something like that, You would need a guy who's like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: a real good and ring workhorse.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: To accept all the challenges. First of all. That's like
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: like like Scena, like Sina did.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that too. You know, maybe if this was
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: like Damian Priest's US Champion, then I could see something
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: like that happening every week.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, any other thoughts on this go ahead?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: My my One of the favorite things that I liked
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: about this was, uh, the the Titan trons. Jacob Fattou
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: coming out with that ginormous Titan tron looked amazing.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: I wish I wish we had that back in other pols.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was another subtle thing that I did
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: notice on this one, Like, this is the first time
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: we seen the screen of that size ever since they've downsized,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: you know, from raw, because you know it used to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: be raw SmackDown like that every day and week, but
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: ever since they downsized. Yeah, seeing it that big, it
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: makes it feel more important, Yes, makes it feel Yeah,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: that was a nice touch on this show was the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Giant Titan tron.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Damn are we saying that Saudi knows how to present
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: a fucking w W wrestling match no event, yes, match,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: no pl Saudi?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: And this wasn't really so much Saudi is doing more
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: so than Saudi's undoing of what t k O has
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: been doing.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I know, right, They're like, we're going to change all
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: of this.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: That's a that's a very good point. I love that absolutely, right, Sadi.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: When they go to Saudi, the Prince wants one thing,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: and that's what he's.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Gonna exactly exactly like the money I'm giving y'all how
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: this ship gonna be.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: This is why I asked for you, because you know,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: to wrestle at my first Saudi show.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: So I want him.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: I'm giving you, I'm paying.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: You all this time, right, I did not give you
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: all fifty million dollars for slim gyms and Prime Energy drinks.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: I love when we get Jacob being a guy of
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: that size doing the swanton bomb, you know, doing a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Jeff Hardy swanton bomb that I think he I think
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: it was him who took the souplex. I thought his
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: damn neck broke. What else I want to point I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: had on here? Uh oh yeah, dude, uh solo young him,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: you're all gas, no brains. I thought that was pretty funny.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: And then when when we did get the blood Line,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: the New Blood Line come out, you know, Jacob like
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: cleaning house on these guys, and then you know the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: way he just dives up over those ropes, you know,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: not not testing those ropes. You know, I think it's
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: just cool a guy that side is doing that kind
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: of ship.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: He sold Spike at the end.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the right me. He sold that finisher
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: so well. Uh And you know, now I'm kind of
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: curious to what's gonna go on with him and the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: USOS because you know, he didn't want Jimmy us coming
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: out and helping him, which he did, and so you know,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: with with the rumors of the USOS forming back together,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: you know, where does Jacob Fartu go in all of this?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Is he like the new Blood the New Bloodline enforcer?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Because I kind of saw the enforcer, you know, in
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Solo against Night, Like I was like, all right, like
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: this is the old solo this is like and they
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: said this is his first solo title and that's not true.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: He was North American Champion when he was in the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: blood Line, the NXT North Americans. Yeah yeah, main title
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: and the main roster.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Like but yeah, definitely not his first. Uh but yeah,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: I'm excited to see where this goes now that it
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: just keeps getting bigger and bigger, like this this tam Bloodline,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: this is more and more samoans Uh.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: Like I said, the solo taunting everybody when at the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: post the post show where he's like four letters one
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: word stop. I love That's why I love so.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Because he's he has a personality. He does he does,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: he has, he has real personality. When he finds a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: way to integrate that into who he is as a character,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: that may be the thing to take him to the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: next level. Because it was this thing that he's doing
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: now you could tell he's performing, but you can tell
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: it's not really him. Yeah, you know, trying to play
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: like they're having fun.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah right, and he's definitely having fun with it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Because we were so starting to have fun with it now.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which he's organic.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Cold faced, uh you know, hands crossed, arms crossed, you know,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: silent type like there was when he was in the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: blud line, there was a hot minute. He didn't say
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: anything for like months, he didn't say anything. He had
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: no lines, and I was.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Fine with that, and he had and he had that
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: aura to him. Yeah, but obviously that's not gonna last forever.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Like even Kane started talking at some point, So that's
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: that's never gonna last for ever for anybody. But yep,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: it's a difference between you know, you talking and bringing
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: your personality through in what you're saying, versus you just
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: trying to play a character. And him I think at
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: the beginning of Bloodline two point zero was him just
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: trying to play this character like I'm this boss, I'm
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: this that, and YadA YadA. But it's not solo. It's
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: not the it's not the guy bringing himself out through
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: the character. Yes, and now I think we're seeing that
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: a bit more of him now with some of the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: trash talk and he does in the ring, some of
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: the uh what he says in the postmatch past conference,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: the taunting and all that stuff. Yeah, you can tell
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: that's really solo.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I bet him. Between I would imagine probably between him
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: and his brothers, he's probably the biggest shit talker of
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the three.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say that, I was literally thinking about that.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: He's because he's he's the little brother that's bigger than
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: the big brothers. You know, you know he talks ship
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: to them.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Right, so you know he had to get picked on,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they're the twins. Yeah, you know he outside, No,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: he got picked on a lot, so he had to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: be away to talk ship. Yep. I'll bet he's probably
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: a hell of a ship talker. Yep.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what they're doing, to be honest,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: But like, you know, it's also like on a side note,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: like just the whole fact that the past few years,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: like they've just been feuding with each with each other,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: and it just as a whole that's gotta be fun
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: as hell, right, Like you're getting paid to not only
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: like leave out your dream being a professional wrestler, but
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: if you're having fun with your family, your whole family,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: and like now you got more and more members of
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: your family, it's just gotta be fun, you know.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know that growing up obviously they would
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: these moves on each other. This is all stuff they've
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: done before in the past when they were kids. Because
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: they grew up they grew up in the business, they
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: knew how to tell stories. They've they're probably redoing every
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: single thing they've done before themselves, which is amazing. Not
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: everyone can say that.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Nope, so good ship.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was for the first time in a long
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: time solo Soko is interesting again.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: So moving on to the next match, we had Storm
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: of the X Men facing Mystique of the Brotherhood for
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Queen of the Ring tournament final, which was won by
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Storm of the x Men aka j Cargill when she
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: defeated Oscar.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: You're not wrong Batch defeat.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: It was only a botched feet. Well, I'll take that back.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it live. I did not see it live,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: so I watched it. I watched the replay, so it's
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: possible that maybe in the replay it was edited. So
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: what I saw was I could tell that it did
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: not look right even in the angle that I saw
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: in the replay. But in the scope of the entire match,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: I really don't give a shit about that. That whatever finish,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: it's minor because and I say that because a lot
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: of people are using that to once again attack J
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: car Gill, and I think, quite frankly, this match is
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: probably the best match I've seen j Cargill have in WWE.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I think if you take away that finish, I think
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: this is the Even with the finish, this is the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: best cleanest match I've seen her have in the WWE.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: At no point in this match that I think she
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: looked lost. At no point did I see her, you know,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: seeming like she was trying to work the match instead
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: of just having the match. She's knew where places were at.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: She was selling great for OSCA. Like, I got nothing
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: but praise for Jake Cargill in this match, despite all
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: the criticism other people might want to throw out there,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I have nothing but praise for her in this match.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: Exactly is amazing. So but you're you're right, You're right.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: I think this is Jade Cargill's best, cleanest match. But again,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, people remember the finished
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: most and that's what bothers me about this, right.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: People remember the finish for a while, Yes, because you
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: know what ain't nobody talking about now, h Randy Orton
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: versus Randy Orton versus Gunter last year that had a botch, Yes,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: and people talked about it in the moment and within
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: a few weeks had moved on. Sure, So yeah, people
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: are gonna talk about it now, and maybe because it's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Jay Cargill, they're gonna latch onto it a little bit
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: more and try to use that to again bash her more.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: By SummerSlam, people would have moved on.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, unless she watches again, which is the problem, which
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: is like, you're you're right, you're one hundred percent right.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: But if she keeps watching, that's all they're gonna remember.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: For Yeah, but remember Ni Jackson was like that and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit more work.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Yes, she got better, she got better.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: Now we're not spending every I'm not spending every episode
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: bashing on Nia Jackson because she fucked up exactly she did.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: I have honest to say this the whole year. I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: have not said that she destroyed anybody this year. She
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: did not put anybody on the injured roster on purpose.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: So yeah, no, But Jake Cargo, she's she has, she's
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: she's she's it, she's he has the entire package. Like
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: she looks. Her promos are pretty pretty decent. She's every
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: time I see Jade Cargo, I'm excited to see her.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: So like, she she has everything going. I don't know
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: what they do behind the scenes, if she's working on
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: her craft, because some female wrestlers don't do that. So hopefully,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: I just want to see the best of Jade Carg
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: still to come.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: I think she becomes champ.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: When she becomes champ, oh my god, it's gonna be
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: so great.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she's clearly working on her craft. I mean,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: if you look at her just from last year to now,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: or from when she first debuted in w W Eatson now,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: she looks markedly better now. Yeah, in the ring, So
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: she's clearly working on her craft and she's clearly getting better.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I see it. I think a
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: lot there are too many wrestlers who we've seen having
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: to develop with this much this bride of a light
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: or this larger a lens on them in real time.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of the people that we think are are
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: newer to us have had years in the smaller circuits,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: or years in the indies, years in you know, NXT
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: or something else like that, where they got to make
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: all those mistakes without the entire wrestling world watching them
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: and talking about it and criticizing every little thing. Jay
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Cargo hasn't had that pretty much from the moment she
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: got into this, she was fast. She got like what
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: one year I think of training for. She was fastball
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: to AEW and immediately thrown on TV in front of everybody,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: and then had them a few years in AW and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: then that ends. She comes to WWE and a couple
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: of months of down into PC and then boom right
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: on the main roster. No NXT time, no, none of that,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: just immediately boom all the eyes and she's learning and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: she's developing and she's growing in real time. And she
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: still has I think less than ten years of wrestling experience, right,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: so I don't know. I'm to me, I'm far more
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: patient with her than I think other people are. It's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: because I'm not judging her by the same standard that
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I'm judging other wrestlers with more years and more experience.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I'm here for the journey, I'm here for the growth.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: I expect mistakes to happen. As long as I see
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: development and I see improvement, I'm okay with it. And
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I've seen from her continuously. So where she's
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: at now, I'm okay with it. And is she gonna
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, could she be? Will she become
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: champion at some point. Absolutely, we know that. Yes, but
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I've already and she does, she does, she does need to.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: But I've already said where I think that's gonna go.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: And I think I don't think she's gonna become champion
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: the way we think the way some people think she will.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: As of yet, my prediction is still that she goes
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: on to face Tiffany Stratton as Summer Slam. She will
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: win and defeat Tiffany Stratton and become champion and then
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: immediately be cashed in on by Naomi, who will then
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: take the title. Perfect and Naomi will become the champion
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: coming out of Summer Slam, and she will get the run,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: and then it'll be about Jade chasing Naomi, and maybe
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Jay does become the one to d thrown Naomi, or
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: maybe it's somebody else, maybe it's a Bianca or somebody
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: that comes in, but Jade will be the chaser I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: think for the rest of the year.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I I always say, like, if
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: you're rooting for somebody, it's always when they're in the chase,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: you know, because that's how it was with Cody. Well,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: we were all behind him during the chase of the title.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: But once he got it, you know, once he got
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: into his run, it kind of got kind of lackluster,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: like the fun was gone.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Like I.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: Pretended to be in the chase still when he won.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, Cody, Yeah, I agree with that.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people did not appreciate his his title run the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: way I think they should have. It was that that
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: come down from the high.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jade's getting a nice slow build and I
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: like it. And you mentioned it, uh Dre on the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: discord that you know, between the three women that were together,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: you know, Naomi is the money in the Bank winner,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: you know, Bianca was the ward Rumble winner, and now
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Jade's the queen, the Queen of the rank. That's awesome.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: That's that's awesome for that group, Like each of them
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: have a accolade of some kind of add to their
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: their repertoire. Yeah, it's a huge accomplishment, especially like when
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: it comes Slammy Awards season, you know, like that's pretty big.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: But I, I mean I enjoyed this match, like, like
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't see really many botches, Like I watched it
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: later too, So maybe the botch that's been discussed about
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: the weird ending. Maybe that's what I'm not getting, uh
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: because I did watch it like later at night. Uh,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: putting putting her with the right person is what made
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: this the good match. Putting her with Oscar, it was brilliant.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Oscar is a lot smaller than her, but she made
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: it work with all these unique holds and and the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: stiff kicks. You know, you had the strong style that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: she was using, and I fucking enjoyed that shit. So,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: like I was, I was on board, Like I was
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: believe that this match could have definitely gone either way,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: but I was happy with the results. And you know,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: Oscar's nothing to you know, sneeze at.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: There.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: There was a point where Oscar had like this long
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: running winning streak, you know, when she came up to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: the main roster and like it was a big deal,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: like Charlotte had to put her down at WrestleMania at
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: some point. But uh, this slow build for Jade is
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: going well, and I agree Dre like she's probably gonna
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: win her first title and it's gonna get snatched right
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: the hell away, and it sucks because nobody forgets your
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: first title win. You know, you never forget that first
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: title win. I had never forgot John Cena's first title win.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I never forgot like Becky Lynch's first title win,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: or you know, uh, just Sean Michael's first type win,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Like there's something about that.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: First happened at Wrestleman. It's hard.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but like just anybody just that first time
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: achieving that that that status, Like you know, there's so
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: many who have tried to get there and failed, you know,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: you know, like.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: God as Canna say, to your point, if if what
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: Dre says it's true, that's going to be a very
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: memorable first title win.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then just SummerSlam immediately has a snatched away,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: it will definitely be memorable. And yeah, I think there's
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: something Obviously there's something to be said for somebody's first
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: title win, but there also are some title wins that
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: you could argue maybe aren't as memorable, but the the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: body of work or maybe another title win at a
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: later point was a little bit more memorable. Like for example,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: does anybody remember Brett Hart's first title win?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: No, exactly. I'm pretty sure it was against Bob Backlin
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, I was.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: Thinking Bob Becklan, but he Bob Becklin beat him for
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: for the belt and then he won it back from
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: Bob Backlin. I remember because I used I used to
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: be I used to put my older brother in the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: chicken wing, and I remember specifically that's what it was.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: You could be right about that, and maybe and maybe that,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: you know, further proves my point. The one that I
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: remember was him beating Bob Backlan, not whatever the he
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: whoever the hell he be the first time.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: It's a great point because when you said that, I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: immediately thought, you know, he won the world. Had a
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: few times, but my most memorable was when he when
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: he beats Sina And you're right, I love I love that.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Is go ahead?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, go ahead, go ahead?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: As I say. Jade's been signed to ww sins twenty
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: twenty three, and I feel like we still have so
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: much more like feuds and and just matches we haven't
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: seen yet that I want to see. I mean, that's
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: super exciting.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: She has yet to have a real major, high profile
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: singles feud. Yeah yeah, she's aired it with the Big Three.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: She was tag team with Bianca Bellair and she's just
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: now going on an extended singles run right, and I
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: think with Naomi is her first Yeah, a few with
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Naomi is really her first major singles, her first singles
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: feud period really.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think that's what was like one of
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: my main concerns when she did sign with the companies, like, oh, ship,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: they're gonna like fast track her and like it's just
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: and like, yeah, the casual fan or like strictly WW
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: fans not gonna know who she is and not gonna
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: attach to them as quickly, you know. Like but like
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: some of these a W stars that they're bringing in,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: they're doing it right. Jade's been doing right. I think
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: Penta is another one that they're doing right. Like this
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: slow build of these new characters that I don't know
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: who they are even though they're a big deal somewhere else.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that they what they need to
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: do with Jade has let her loose little, just like
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: you can't keep coddling too because if you look at
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: the match, her matches are small, short. This is this
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: was an eight and a half minute match, like let
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: her give her some time to you know, give me
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: some storytelling. Out is not not rush because this could
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: be the reason why she bought is because they're rush
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: her and some people can't really do that. You got
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: to give them time.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that will and I agree with that
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: to a certain extent. But I think that will come
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: with time because when you when you get into a
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: longer match, there's a lot of nuance involved in that
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: to have a longer match and have it be interesting
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: and compelling for the entire duration of the match and
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: not it have it not have an empty space or
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: a big dead zone in the middle of it between
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: your initial start off and your build to the finish.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: So I think as she develops and she learns more
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: and starts to pick up on more those more nuanced
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: aspects of matches and storytelling, then I think you'll get
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: longer matches from her. And like I said, some of
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: that you saw signs of in this match in her selling.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Part of I think part of being able to pull
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: off a larger a longer match is your ability to
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: sell for your opponents and make your opponent look good.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: So that way, when you if you're the one slated
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: to have the comeback towards the finish, it means more so,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: like I said, the way she was able to sell
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: for Oscar in this match, to me is a sign
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: of growth and a sign of development. And maybe as
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: that gets better, as she gets better at that, then
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: some of these matches will eventually start to become longer.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't be surprised if her match with Tiffy
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: at SummerSlam, I wouldn't be surprised to see that match
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: get a good, solid fifteen minutes.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: I mean they would have to.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially being a title match.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: Title match two nights, they have to do something.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, aint but so many commercials.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't. I don't get commercials in Mexico.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: I get the I.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: Get those old school promos, video packages they used to do.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I would give those two if I felt
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: like paying the extra for Peacock, but I don't.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I get it. I get everything through Netflix here,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: so the same prices. I get everything. Which it's it's
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: refreshing because like like the promo they had for Oscar
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: and Dad, the video package, it was, it was great.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: It got me excited that That's That's one refreshing thing
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: about you know, watching it on Netflix is these matches,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: like for example, Sammy carrying Cross. I didn't care for it,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: but the video package made me watch it, sit there
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: and watch it as opposed to go any you know,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: bathroom breaking. They need to bring that back for everybody.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I might need to get on that VPN game too,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: because I was thinking about it myself, like Carlos was
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: telling you Wayne to get on that for a freaking
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: smack down.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't realize now that you know, now that
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: the NBA Finals are over with, I have no reason
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: to keep YouTube TV except for SmackDown right now, like
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not watching shit else and now, granted, I'm gonna
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: pick it right back up soon as football season come
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: back around because I got to have my NFL said
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: they ticket, but I could get be a good probably
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: month or two break in between then, but fucking SmackDown.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: I watched SmackDown at what ten in the morning when
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: it came out on Netflix. I'm working watching SmackDown, so
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: I love it, and most VPNs give you thirty day.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: For Yeah, i'might have to figure out something because yeah,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: there's no reason for me. You're paying for this damn
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: YouTube TV for one fucking show.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: A week, and you get NXT.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well NXT's on CW. That's yeah, that's over. OHTA
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: over the end, over the air for Alarm Concern.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can rewatch it on Netflix if you
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: miss it. You don't have to watch it live.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is true because the song right now.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Literally is.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Right now.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: I usually I usually I usually watch raw SmackDown, like
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: the next day during when I'm working.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: I have to read about SmackDown or you know, watch
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: highlight videos. It sucks because it's like, I'm not we
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: discussed this that nausea, but like I'm not spending like
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: a ship little money just to watch SmackDown, just not
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: for SmackDown. And like I don't have Hulu, and like
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: apparently I have to have Hulu Live TV to even
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: watch the shorter episodes. Now, okay, that sucks.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: Too, Hulu Plus Live TV, which yeah, again, I would
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: maybe consider switching from YouTube TV to Hulu plus Live
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: TV except for NFL, and right now the NFL Sunday
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: ticket is exclusive to YouTube TV. I'll be thankful for
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: the day when that ship is no longer exclusive to
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: one thing, or you can just get it however you like.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: But for now, it went from direct TV for all
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: those years to now it's YouTube TV. More money.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all they want. Speaking of people who want
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: more money, let's talk about this main event.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm ye main events. John Cena versus Cmpunk for
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: the WWE Championship. Yep, I still refuse to call it
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: undisputed because he got a whole other belt right there
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: on wrong.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the dumbest name for it.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: Right, Just drop the fucking undisputed. Just call it the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: fucking ww Championship.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Just just do it all.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: Is it a trademark thing that they're like the reason
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: why they have to keep calling it that or or
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: what is it?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: I don't see why would be a trademark thing like
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: undisputed don't mean nothing special. It's still the w W Championship. Yeah, right.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: To me, it's just like a little I don't know,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: like a little hint like hey, this titles, this title
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: is the better one, Like I don't see.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: I hate that.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: I hate a subtle thing, you know what I mean.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: But this is the no sense whatsoever to still be
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: calling that thing the undisputed w W Championship. I agree,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Universal championship is dead. You've got a whole other belt
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: On wrong. The World Heavyweight Championship just simplified w W
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Championship and the World Heavyweight Championship. It worked just fucking
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: fine in two thousand and three.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: I mean it worked because you didn't have three hundred
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: and sixty plus year reigns or three hundred and sixty
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: plus day rains, you know what I mean. Back then,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: Sina Orton were losing it every what fifty sixty days
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: things like that.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: John had like one good lengthy reign of almost a year.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Other than that, yeah, most people were having it for
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: a few months at a time, and I loved it.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: It made it made you want to watch every week
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: because you didn't know who was gonna win or wrong.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean this match, it didn't suck, and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: it actually actually said this was actually a pretty really
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: good match. It actually was a good match. Like them
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: two going at it. They did good work in the ring.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Johnson did a good job of selling. He didn't really
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: seem like he was playing it too safe or phoning
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: it in that much. Obviously, there was shenanigans abound towards
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: the end of the match, some of which added to
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: the match, some of which made no fucking sense looking
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: at you, Penza.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: See I disagree. That made perfect sense to me. Every
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: everyone sees the Penta thing as a running But it
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: wasn't a distraction from Braun.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but why Penza.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: Pen No, because that's that's who he's feuding with.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: But he okay, okay, listen, Jay's all right down.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know, Dre.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: When it took time to fucking strut down the damn ram, Dude,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: while see us in there getting his fucking brains beating
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: in the.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: Ring, Penta's fucking dancing down the fucking ram. He's fucking
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: shaking hands and fucking fans and ship. He even had
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: time to say his fucking catchphrase.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Right mean, while seen in the ring getting pummeled.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: Again, you guys are looking at from the wrong point
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: of view. It's like it wasn't a run in to
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: save Sina. It was to distract Braun. That's why he
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: was doing all that stuff.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: He couldn't distract Braun a little sooner save Seena maybe four.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: But he wasn't there to save him though. It's what
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: I'm trying, is what I'm saying. He wasn't there what
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: everyone like, everyone says like they compare it to Jeff
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: Hardy coming out to saving Matt Hardy and him it's like,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: it's not it's not the same thing. One was there
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: to save his brother, So you can't you can't put
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: them in the same in the same thing because it
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: was two different.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: I get the point. I get the point you're trying
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: to make. But even if he's there to distract braun Breaker.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: By distracting braun Breaker, he's saving John Cena because that's
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: one less person humbling John Cena in the ring. So
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: he may not have ended up there with the intent like,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: oh shit, Johnston is in trouble, let me come to
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: the rescue. It may have just been like bron Breaker
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: out there, I'm finna go get me a piece of that.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: I get that, but it's still kind of it still
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: gives off the same impression though you make the run
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: in and you don't actually run in. Instead you're at
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: the top farming Aura, and then it's like, oh shit,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: I forgot I'm supposed to be fighting somebody right now,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: and then you run in there to fight. It's almost
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: like bron Breaker had to go up there and be like, hey, bitch,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: he's supposed to be fighting me right now, He's like,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, right, right right. I mean it was a
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: funny moment. Obviously it didn't ruin the match by any means,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: but it was a funny moment. It was definitely funny
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: as hell. But like, but other other runnings did make sense,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: like obviously the seth Rollins one. You know, I kind
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: of knew he wasn't gonna really cash in, but it
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: made sense because, as he said itself, as long as
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: he has breath in his lungs, you know, seeing punk
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: will never be champions, So him showing up made sense.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I ain't coming with the goons as well. Now I
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck kind of well, no, no,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: I can't really say so much in this match because
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: spot of the night in this match, after the first
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: referee got laid out, here come Charles Robinson giving what's
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: left the given what he has left of a fifty
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: yard dash, or you get freaking alpha male from bounced
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: into the next dimension.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: But the same running from like five was it when
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: he ran in except.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: About five second floorer from like a foe two to
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: a four eight. I love I love Little Nah.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: He's my favorite rests, my favorite ref of all time.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, this guy's won for almost twenty six minutes.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, I thoroughly enjoyed this match. It definitely gave me, like,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: you know, revisiting a bunch of vibes from you know,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: these guys are going. This is the fifteenth match they've
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: had against each other, and I feel like I've seen
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: almost all of them, you know, notably the most best
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: ones probably you know, Money in the Bank or whatever
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: in twenty eleven summer Punk that feud. But it took
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: me back, man, and I think the winner was rightfully
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: so I think it should have stayed with Sina and
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: it did because last time Seam Punk on that feud,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: the roles were just reversed for this whole thing. And
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: that's what we're getting. We're getting the same thing with Orton,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: We're getting the same thing here with Punk. This is
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: the roles reversed. And you know, I'm glad we didn't
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: get no low blow, we didn't get no uh Travis
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: Scott interference. So there's some things I can say that
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: I'm very happy about it.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: He tried the low blow, yeah, he tried it, yeah, yeah,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: And it was smart up that they had Punk not
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: fall for it and he actually sees through it and
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: caught it and counted him. And shit, I mean there
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: was some definitely some impressive moments there. I mean seeing
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: freaking forty eight year old Johnsona getting Bronson rito for
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: an attitude adjustment.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: Dude, that was impressive.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: I didn't think it was gonna do it.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, I was. Well, I was praying for
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: the knees when he was doing that.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sina, you know, not nonfreight taking some bumps
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: during this fucking match, man, Like you know, I people
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: keep saying, how sank He's playing it safe. I'm like, yeah, man, well,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: like at the end of this year, the man still
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: has to have a career of some kind. Like, yeah,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: he's playing it safe so he can be here for
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: the rest of the year. The last thing, honestly, the
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: last thing I want is him to get injured during
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: like you know, a raw or like something like this
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: and then he that's it, Like he's done for the year.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: That's it, he's injured. Like, so if he has to
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: play it safe to get me to the end of
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: the year for the most part, then do it. Like
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: but no, this match, hehouders safe. But yeah, yeah, yeah
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: Bronson being on your shoulders. But I mean I saw
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: he lifted, he looked into his legs. You know, he
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: us his back in an awkward jerking twisting motion. But yeah,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: that was impressive. Man. Johnson always there to to impress
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: you when it comes lifting like huge fucking guys in
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: the ring. Yeah, he's a strength man always, whether it's
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: like big show and edge on his shoulders the same time,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: like you know.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: Two guys, great.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: Colleague, like he's I've seen him just lift an impressive
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: amount of people. Just it's crazy. But maybe, yeah, I
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: enjoyed this whole match. I enjoyed this whole feud between
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: these guys. I'm glad I got what I wanted. I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: wanted him to revisit some older feuds, and so far
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: I'm getting it. I think maybe the only other one
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: I would be willing to dust off is an aj
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: Styles feud. Other than that, I'm pretty good. Like, give
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: me some new give me some new feuds after you know,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: unfortunately we got Cody, but like, give me some new feuds.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: I want to see some new meat go against Sena.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: I guess we got.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: We got the tugonomics and SmackDown.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they the the CM punk. That was funny.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: That was hilarious. So if you haven't seen that, go
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: back and watch that. But that was pretty funny. Again,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: roles reversed and it worked. We're just doing the same storyline. Uh.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think if we get anything new from Sina,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: it'll be when he returns as a baby face exactly.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Right now, we're just.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: Work some just work matches with the new That would
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: be nice if he whenever he comes back as a
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: baby face, if it's like, you know, he's just here
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: now just for the people for he ain't chasing no
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: titles no more. It's just like for these last couple
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: of you know, appearances I have left, I'm just gonna
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: have a different match with somebody new on the roster. Yeah,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: you know, almost reminiscent of his US title run where
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: he was facing somebody different every week. But instead it's
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: just hey, you new guy, come on one on one,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: let's go. Yeah, just just for the hell of it.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: No reason, no storyline, no few know nothing, just you know,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: just his way to give something to the to the
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: to the new uh, to the next generation of the
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: current guys, the current stars just give him a match,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: just because I would love that if that's how he
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: goes out and then whatever his final matches is with
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: whoever he wants.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, letting these younger, these young wrestlers live out
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: their dream. You know a lot of these guys, they
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: their dream is to rest John Cena.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Right, I would love right. I would love a Johnson,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: a Carmelo Hayes match, ud just I.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: Would gunter give me Johnson.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: That would have to have a storyline though, because yeah, I.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: Know when he comes back as a face, but like
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: you know, still like the one. You don't know how,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know how, but get us to these places,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: you know, these are the future I want.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: To like, Yeah, but like give me give me a
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: John Cena and like I said, John Cena and a
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: Carmelo Hayes or John Cena and give me don Yeah,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: John that's a good one.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny is when we talk about these
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: kind of matches we wanted, Like when he first came back,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: I said, like, yeah, give me a Johnson ever seeing punk.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: But you know, I don't care how we get there.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: I don't care whose face, I don't care who's heel.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: I don't care, just get me there, and they fucking did.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: So if they can do that in the middle of
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: the fucking year, you know, we say, like, you know,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: Dom's a heel, right, but they can get us there.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't mind seeing John Cena and Pence
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: I have a match.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I heard hell.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: Let Johnson to go down to NXC. Give me a
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: John Cena and a overfem me. Yeah, like, just go
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: out with go out giving props to the next generation. Yep,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: and give those guys, Give those guys a one v one.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: Senor versus Champa.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: So fun to watch.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: Overall, Guys, was this a pretty good p l e
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: for for a Saudi show?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Overall? Yes, I think this actually was a pretty good,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: pretty good show. They are a seemingly trying to debunk
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: the whole Saudi shows our side quest things, at least
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: with the first one of the year, at least with
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: this King Queen of the Ring some Nighter Champions whatever
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: they want to call it, from year to year, because
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: these are matches that have implications moving forward with the
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: King and Queen of the Ring matches, and you know,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: at least those matter moving forward. You know, we got
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: a title change in Solo Sokoa becoming a new US champion.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: So that's three out of six matches that mattered that
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: genuinely mattered, one match that you could call it a
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: farewell dream match with Sina and Punk right, and then
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: two throwaways with Ria Raquel, which was still a good
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: match and still the best match of Raquel's main roster
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: career so far. So then you really only had one
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: match that you could really just wipe from the board,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: and it was the match that was thrown on at
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: the last minute and Sammy's a and Carrying Cross. Yeah.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, overall, I would say this actually was Yeah,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: this was actually a pretty good pl out of this
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: surge of pls we've had over the last one and
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: a half or two where we're getting one like every
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: two or three weeks. This is in the top two.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: I would say I would put this maybe right under
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: money in the bank, m yeah.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: Right now. And there was two other matches that were
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: originally on the car they got canceled, AJ Styles and
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: Dominic Umsteria for the Intercontinental title and Live Morgan.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: Versus, which I think was replaced with the Sammy and
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Carrying Cross Carrying Cross match.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: Right, and then we also had the Women's World title e.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: Sky was going to be facing Live more so they
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: got scrapped, but we all know why. Uh, that's all
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: I got for the p l E. If you guys
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: want to.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: Move on, Yeah, that's it. We said enough about the
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: p l E.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I will bring up though, like, let's get into
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: any matches that may have been added to the next
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: p l E. The next one is the Great American Bash. Uh.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: So far, we we talked about the main title match,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: the Oba versus yo Yo Shiki. Yes, and that's right.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: That guy's from Japan. He's not even on the NXT brand.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: But now added we have a taxi match Blake and
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: Blake Monroe and Jordan Grace versus the Fatal Influence Fallon
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: Henley and j C Jaane. I thought that was a
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: one on one last time we talked. Now it's a
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: tag match. Huh.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got it literally got updated within the last
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: fifteen minutes.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: Wow, oh wow. Yeah, that's true because NXT is still live,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: so this is why we're bringing it day live.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: And then we also have a singles match for the
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: NXT Women's North American titles. Soul Ruka versus Izzy Dame.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: Yep, because that wasn't on there we when we started recording.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's new tip the Bash, Well that's added. Yeah,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: that's that to the Bash and now Saturday main event.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: Let me see here, Well, we did talk about Goldberg
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: and Glunther, and we do have Ellie Knight versus Seth
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: Rollins added to the to the card, and also Drew
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: McIntyre versus Randy Orton, which I kind of want to
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: see that Drew versus Randy Orton. And we did talk
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: about we wanted to Ellen Knight versus Seth.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: What's a SmackDown ain't happen to yet? Yeah?
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: Oh oh oh we're in the future. Oh oh oh.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: That's why we're all Was that started at six for
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: you guys because.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: They recorded they recorded SmackDown as well.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: So do you not want me to talk about evolution because.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: We got literally have Elite car pulled up whatever.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, screw it. Jacy Jane with Fallon, Jacy Jane versus
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: Jordan Grace. Okay, there's the singles match. That's how the
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: NXT Women's Championship. That makes more sense. Uh, that will
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: be pretty good match by the way. I'm excited for
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: that EO Sky versus Rhea. That'll be a good freaking match.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: That's for the Women's World Championship. We're finally getting a
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: one on one with them. I want to I've seen
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: it before.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: But I mean, finally we had before WrestleMania.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but I feel like this one's gonna kick.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're gonna get time to cook for
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: this one. Raquel, they cooked.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: Raw was great.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: That an amazing match.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: Because ye remember El won the title off of.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted more. Now we're getting it. Uh, Raquel,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: Rodriguez and Rock as.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Long as wins. Yes, if Rea wins this damn belt.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, then we have a fatal four way tag
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: team match for the w W Women's tag titles. Raquel
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: and Roxanne the champions versus Alexa Bliss and Charlotte. That's
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: the weird tag team and versus two other teams to
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: be determined. And I know they said.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: In other words, in other words, versus four other women
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: we're gonna randomly throw together.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: They said two from Raw and two from SmackDown. So
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: we're still waiting for the two for Raw.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, Well, two other teams Rall's gonna the Raw team
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: is gonna be freaking probably the Bellers that they'll shoehorn
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: Originally Bree Bella was or Nikki Bella was gonna face
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: Live Morgan.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: So do you think it's gonna be one of those
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: like last minute like you know, not tell us and
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: then they come out and that it's like, oh, no
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: Bellas because like we really have no time unless they
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: announced the SmackDown.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: No, they will announce him next week, Yeah, shoehorn the
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: out of them.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: And the next week and then we have a battle, like.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: I get the Alexa. The Alexa and Charlotte thing may
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: happen this Friday on SmackDown, and then next week Raw
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: will get a third team, which will probably be the
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: Bellas or something like that. Right, then next week on
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: smack Down, we'll get the last team will be I
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: don't know, Maybe then I'll say Piper in freaking and
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: and Alba fire yeah yeah then, or or maybe I
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: would prefer uh Meetchen and beefab mm hmm, or those
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: two will have a match in the winter gets into
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: this match, right. Actually been talking about the women's tag
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: titles for a while and wanting and going after them,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: So it would make more sense for them to to
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: be in the match, someone who's actually been talking about it.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: So they would be the ones taking depending if they'd
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: got in there.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: How about this? They also have a Battle Royal for
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: the Women's World Championship match at Clash in Paris. Who
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: would they pick to go? Who's Who's? Do we know
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: any who's from Paris? Is there any wrestler that's from
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: that area from Europe?
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the Europeans, but actual French. I can't think.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I can't somebody that they would push
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: as a hometown, you know what I mean? I can't think.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 5: When's clash apparents at Paris? Is it after after SummerSlam? Right?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: I let me see he Clash of Paris is August
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: thirty first.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so it would be somebody who fingers crossed
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: is the one of facing Naomi at Clash of Paris?
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: Oh? Well?
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: On the poster, well Naoi? They said a title shot,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: so it could be whatever brand they are, so it
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: could be Naomi if she's champion, or whoever the Women's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: World champion is, be that EO or Rhea or someone else.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: I will say on the poster, Bianca bell Air is on.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: The only women I see is Bianca bell Air, Verria
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: Charlotte and Tiffany Stratton. It's the only.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Women that I could make something fairly interesting if Bianca
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: Bellair is healthy and can return, because I know she's
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: still recovering from that hand injury or thumb injury she's
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: sustained at wrestle Mania, so she's healthy enough to return.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: That can make a very interesting possible setup with her
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: having a guaranteed title shot at Clash in Paris at
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: the presumed w W Women's Champion, thinking it could be
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Tiffy at the time, and she's talking smack to Tiffy, teasing,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: and they go back to the thing they've been doing,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: teasing Bianca versus Jade again because obviously Jade as Queen
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: is going to challenge. So she back, she talking with Jade,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: you win and me and you we go on to
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: Class Paris and we do the damn thing Jade YadA YadA, YadA, Okay, cool,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: you know, and they would damn show tease that ship.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: Oh we're gonna get Jay versus Clash of Parents. We're
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: gonna get Clash of Pears and comes Naomi snatches that
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: title and instead we get Bianca versus Naomi at Clash
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: in Paris. I'm booking it there it is, Yeah, book.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: It, bucking out, booking early man book the only other
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: match on here. Yeah, it's a bit of a spoiler.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: But Tiffany Stratton versus trist Stratus the w w W
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: Women's Championship.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: Why the last time these two were together they were
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: allies earlier this year.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: Elimination It was elimination.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: How about say it wasn't it elimination chamber where they
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: they were tagged. Yeah, so what sense does this make
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: does for Tris to come back and challenges it just like, hey,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: let's have a match just for the fun of it.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: I don't see Trish coming back as a heel. Tiffany
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: Stratton's over as fuck but still bitchy as hell. Yeah
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. It just seems like a
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: match just because which I mean. I'm not mad at evolution.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: You know, if a o G legend, somebody's like Trish
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: who can still work good matches, wants to come back
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: and have a match, I'm you know, I ain't gonna
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: hate on it, but obviously Tiffany, Strat's gonna fucking win.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: So I don't know why it seems like a pointless
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: women's title.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: Give it, give it, give it to somebody, somebody else
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: instead of Trish.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: But then again, at the same time, given that this
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: is obviously a rush thing because Peel has gotta happen
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: every other week, now, what legitimate storyline could they build
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: up right now? They then ran Tiffany and Nya into
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: the fucking ground, and they just finally put the nail
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: in that again with the last women's standing match, is
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: that it really ain't nobody for Tiffy Tiffany to face
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: right now to buy time between now and Summer Slam.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: Would you guys be opposed to having the brand splits again?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: No, would I be opposed to it or in favor
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: of it posed either. I would be opposed to it
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: right now because, well, one, because I want them to
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: go back to having one pl a month, And if
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: they were to do two plis a month, then yes,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: that may be. Even if it's brand split, you're still
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: doing ps every other week, which is oversaturation of the products.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: Well, when they were doing brand split pls before, it
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: was every other month of the month, yeah, right, which
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: which is ideally what I would perform.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But the problem that existed then was trying to
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: tell these stories over the course of two months to
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: build up and maintain interest, Like things kept shifting, like, oh,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: this is Raw's month for the pl so all the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: attention went to Raw and building that shit up, and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: SmackDown would just be sitting there treading water, squandering, being
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: uninteresting during the month in which is Raw's pl and
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: vice versa, when it was the month for the SmackDown
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: ple Raw sucked for that month because all the attention
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: was being given to the SmackDown. Granted, they seem to
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: be more in the long form storytelling phase now up
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: until the last couple of months, but you still have
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: to have compelling and interesting week to week content to
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: sustain that. When it's the other month's show and they
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: can't even commit to brand split as it is now,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: they have mothers just showing up on whatever show whatever
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: they feel like they need that person on the show
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: for ratings boost or whatever because they can't work with
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: the people that they already have or injuries or whatever.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: So if they can't even commit to a brand split
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: as it exists, now they damn show ain't gonna be
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: able to pull off, you know, individual brand ples every other.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: Month makes sense.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would be nice. It would especially.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: The thing that would wouldn't be a compelling argument for
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: it is the fact that we have more titles now
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: and the fact that you could have pls with title
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: matches being featured on PL's that aren't getting it now,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: like Women's inter Continent, Women's US titles, or the actual
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: tag team titles or tell just the freaking world titles
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: to themselves or the regular Intercontinental title itself and stuff
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: like that. That might be nice, But even that, you're
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: still jumping from month to month, and then there's the
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: issue of well if you're not in the title picture,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: then what and you're still just wasting a waste. I mean,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's complicated, it's hard, but I don't know
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: that exactly. It's pros and cons of either waves, but
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: overall I would say just nah to the brand split
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: pe last.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes sense. It's one of those things where
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: I heard you guys talking about last week, and it
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: was a question I wanted to ask you, See what
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: these guys think on this.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: I mean it's a good question. I mean, it's an
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: interesting thought to have, you know, especially right now with
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: what they got going on.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see guys.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 9: That's probably pretty much all I got, like between the
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 9: PL's that are coming up and what I've been added
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 9: to the card, and I guess a few SmackDown spoilers.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: But I will be on vacation, so I will kind
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: of be out of the loop of wrestling for like
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: a week. It'll be weird. Uh So when I come
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: back and I have to like binge or at least
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: read up because where I'm going there there ain't nothing
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 3: to watch. So but it'll be kind of nice, I guess,
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 3: to like just unwind from wrestling.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: Yeaham while, Yeah, get away stressful sometimes.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know, like Monday nights and to come
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I feel like I should be doing something.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it's weird, right, So
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: it is when you try to take a part of
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: part of wrestling out of your life. It's like this
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 3: huge chunk of like this time slot just open all
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: of a sudden.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been doing this. I've been watching wrestling since
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 5: I was four, Like what am.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: I what else?
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: Am I supposed to do on Mondays?
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 3: I know? Yeah, right, so dre do you guys?
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, people only say that about Monday.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: Nobody ever says that about Friday, Like, oh man, it's
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: supposed to be doing on Friday. Mother fuck, I'm out,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: I'm at a bar, I'm at the club. Don't nobody
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: care about missing wrestling on a Friday.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I never watched wrestling on Friday.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: Never Nobody gives it. Nobody says Friday night wrestling is
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: a part of my life. But Monday. That ship has
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: been ingrained in US since the nineties exactly.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 5: Also because Fridays, you know, it was.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: Tuesday, Thursdays, Tuesday's Wednesday, Friday. It's been every day of
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: the week except Monday. At some point, Yeah, there is
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: that Monday. There's two things that are guaranteed on Monday,
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: wrestling and football in the fall Monday, Monday Night Football,
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: Monday Night Raw. That's them. Two is pop culture that
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: is part of American culture.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, guys, I'm ready to wrap this ship up.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: I'm ready for my vacation.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: So get it.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: Trade you got anything you want to plug?
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: No nothing at the moment. As always, Instagram, dot com,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 2: slash PCW podcast. We'll be back in a few weeks.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure to talk about either all these shows
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: that just happened, or Summer Slam or whatever we feel
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: like talking about next.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for coming back on the show, man. I
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: appreciate it, of course.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 5: Of course I had a knock out a few things,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: like my PlayStation brokes. I had to go pick that
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 5: up and finished work and everything.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I know, yeah, yeah.
• 2:02:12
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• 2:02:16
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• 2:02:23
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• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 5: We post a lot of videos on tiktoks of things
• 2:02:29
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• 2:02:34
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• 2:02:37
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• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: Mhm awesome. Man, All right, guys, but that's a let's
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 3: get the funk out of here.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 5: Let's get it.
• 2:02:56
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• 2:03:01
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• 2:03:12
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• 2:03:28
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• 2:04:52
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• 2:05:15
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• 2:05:18
  Speaker 4: I improved everybody in the world that I am the
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 4: best on this microphone in that break.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: Even in commentary, nobody can touch me. You are not where.
• 2:05:30
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• 2:06:04
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• 2:06:31
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