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THE EYE BALL SERIAL KILLER · Inside The Criminal Mind

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to Inside the Criminal Mind podcast, where we
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  Speaker 1: analyze some of the most notorious criminal cases with psychology
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  Speaker 1: and criminology combined. Here's your host, Doctor Carlos.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to our first episode Inside the Criminal Mind. I'm
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  Speaker 2: doctor Carlos, professor of forensic Psychology. I teach criminal psychopathology
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  Speaker 2: as well as other courses of forensic psychology. My specialty
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  Speaker 2: comes the psychology of criminal organizations such as terrorist recruitment
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  Speaker 2: and cartels.
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  Speaker 3: Decided to do this podcast because I also.
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  Speaker 2: Quite like searching into the minds of criminals, and I
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  Speaker 2: know there is a fascination out there with serial tires.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to.
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  Speaker 4: Set off with our first one, an unusual serial killer
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  Speaker 4: by the name of Charles Albright. But before we get started,
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  Speaker 3: We truly appreciate your support. So let's get started with
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  Speaker 3: the Eye Killer. You're all talk. We begin with a
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  Speaker 3: quote with an all Bright friend. In most cases, serial
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  Speaker 3: killers are brutal.
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  Speaker 2: Woefully uneducated young men, lifelong sadists who kill for their
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  Speaker 2: own twisted reasons. How then, could someone so charming, so
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  Speaker 2: exceedingly polite, suddenly decide in the later years of his
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  Speaker 2: life to become a bloodthirsty sex monster.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I've known Charlie for thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a retired Baptist minister, and all the time, I
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  Speaker 2: think I would have seen his dark side slip out
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  Speaker 2: at least once. Believe me, if he was a really
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  Speaker 2: psychotic killer, he couldn't have kept it a secret all
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  Speaker 2: this time. Cold We're going to find out if he could,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to do a psychological analysis.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to look at his childhood.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to look at some of the crimes and
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  Speaker 2: see what Charles Albright was all about. See Charles Atubright
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  Speaker 2: was a serial killer in Texas between nineteen ninety and
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one. He murdered several female prostitutes, engaging in
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  Speaker 2: paraphilic sexual behavior, auto erotic asphyxia, he choked him, and
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  Speaker 2: ritualistic trophy taking, surgically removing the eyeballs of his victims.
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  Speaker 2: At the time of the murders, Charlie was a fifty
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  Speaker 2: seven year old husband and father, Though he had an
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  Speaker 2: earlier history of juvenile delinquency, property crimes, and prior in
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  Speaker 2: concerate incarcerations, which is quite common with serial killers. As
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  Speaker 2: a child, he experienced mental and emotion abuse, including rejection,
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  Speaker 2: which is one of the biggest factors and it comes
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  Speaker 2: to themes in Syria killer's childhood as a rejection factor
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  Speaker 2: as well as the emotional and mental abuse. He lived
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  Speaker 2: in an unstable home environment, and Charles developed an intense
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  Speaker 2: hatred for women, though as an adult he often florided
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  Speaker 2: with members of the opposite opposite sex and enjoyed impressing
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  Speaker 2: them with his varied artistic talents. He was a skill
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  Speaker 2: for painter and a musician, and women actually seem to
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  Speaker 2: adore him. He was a moderately good looking guy with
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  Speaker 2: a good personality, very intelligent.
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  Speaker 3: He was fluent.
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  Speaker 2: He could speak Latin, Spanish and French, or at least
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  Speaker 2: he said he could, and he became a biology teacher
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  Speaker 2: and a skilled taxidermist. Charles had a great sense of
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  Speaker 2: humor and was portrayed as a clouds clown in college.
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  Speaker 2: He was also athletic, enjoying football and playing slow pitch softball.
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  Speaker 2: People knew him as an affable man and this, folks,
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  Speaker 2: is what I have to warn you about many times
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  Speaker 2: in the media, they'll try to portray these individuals.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a normal, everyday guy. It turns into a
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  Speaker 3: serial killer.
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  Speaker 2: Why Because it's a much more fascinating story than telling
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  Speaker 2: of somebody who grew up in a traumatic childhood, who
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  Speaker 2: committed many crimes as a child and continued.
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  Speaker 3: On throughout their life.
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  Speaker 2: So the story of a person who's normal of everyday
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  Speaker 2: Joe was much more exciting, but obviously extremely misleading.
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  Speaker 3: See the seemingly faithful family man had a disturbing side
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  Speaker 3: that wasn't seen by many.
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  Speaker 2: You can almost call him a modern day juckle and
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  Speaker 2: hide personality.
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  Speaker 3: He was a liar and a con man.
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  Speaker 2: Over time, he developed masochistic attitudes and carefully concealed his
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  Speaker 2: history of thefts, forging his college transcripts to make it
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  Speaker 2: appear that he had graduated. He was often unemployed and
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  Speaker 2: frequented prostitutes. In fact, he once referred to as biological
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  Speaker 2: Mond as a prostitute, although there was no proof of
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  Speaker 2: his accusation. Later on, in some police interviews, he even
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  Speaker 2: denied every meeting a prostitute. When he was fifty one
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  Speaker 2: years old, he he raped a thirteen year old girl,
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  Speaker 2: but he managed to minimize the incident. For becoming increasingly
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  Speaker 2: sexually aggressive with women, Charles went on to murder several
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  Speaker 2: female prostitutes. He derived great pleasure in bludgeting and shooting
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  Speaker 2: his victims, and also developed a fascination and obsession for
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  Speaker 2: their eyes, and you'll learn why as we go on
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  Speaker 2: through with our story. He attempted to paint perfect eyes,
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  Speaker 2: but would seldom sometimes do portraits without them because.
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  Speaker 3: He felt he could not do them justice.
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  Speaker 2: Autopsi's performed and his victims revealed that their eyeballs had
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  Speaker 2: been removed without damaging the lids surgically.
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  Speaker 3: This trophy taking was his signature, and the eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Were never recovered. So let's take a look through his
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  Speaker 2: childhood a little bit. In December nineteen forty four. Life
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  Speaker 2: with his mother, he was known as the most good natured,
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  Speaker 2: eager to please at children, a precocious boy who could
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  Speaker 2: just do about anything, name all the constellations in the sky,
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  Speaker 2: and catch snakes without getting bitten. One childhood friend says
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  Speaker 2: he was kind of like a pie piper to the
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  Speaker 2: rest of us kids.
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  Speaker 3: We always want to see what he would do next.
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  Speaker 2: This is coming from an article in the Texas Monthly
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  Speaker 2: Dot com In nineteen thirty three, when he was three
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  Speaker 2: weeks old, Charles was adopted by a young, dark haired
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  Speaker 2: woman named del.
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  Speaker 3: Arbright and her husband, fred A Grosser.
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  Speaker 2: The all Brights lived in an all white, middle class
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  Speaker 2: neighborhood of Oak Cliff in Texas Dallas, then a beautiful
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  Speaker 2: residential area across the river from downtown. According to the story,
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  Speaker 2: Dell would let her tell tell Charles his birth mother
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  Speaker 2: was an exceptional law student, just sixteen year old sixteen
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  Speaker 2: years old, who had secretly married another student to become pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: When the girl's father found out, he demanded that she
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  Speaker 2: had all her marriage and give up the baby for adoption.
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  Speaker 2: This is Charles, otherwise he would cut her off from
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  Speaker 2: the family. Miss Aubry made sure that Charles knews she
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  Speaker 2: would never abandon him.
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  Speaker 3: She pampered her boy.
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  Speaker 2: She kept goats in the backyard so he could drink
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  Speaker 2: goat's milk, which she said was better for him.
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  Speaker 3: Than cow's milk.
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  Speaker 2: It's so surprised a lot of people still do yet.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes Her mother went to extremes. When child Charles was
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  Speaker 2: a small child, she occasionally put him in a little girl's.
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  Speaker 3: Dress and gave him a doll to hold. We don't
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  Speaker 3: know why.
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  Speaker 2: Two or three times a day she would change his
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  Speaker 2: clothes to keep the dirt off of him, Afraid.
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  Speaker 3: That he might touch dog feces and get polio.
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  Speaker 2: She took him to Parkland Hospital to see the polio
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  Speaker 2: patients locked in huge iron lungs. You can spend the
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  Speaker 2: rest of your life here, Dell said, trying to scare
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  Speaker 2: him about the polio disease. When he was less than
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  Speaker 2: a year old, Dell put him in a dark room
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  Speaker 2: as punishment for chewing on her tape measure.
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  Speaker 3: When he wouldn't take a nap, she would tie him
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  Speaker 3: to his bed.
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  Speaker 2: When he wouldn't drink his milk, she would spank him. Indeed,
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  Speaker 2: people around their neighborhood talked about Dell Albright's odd and
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  Speaker 2: grim nature. No one ever can remember her buying herself
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  Speaker 2: a dress. She kept a scarf over her head and
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  Speaker 2: wore clothes from goodwill. Although she and Fred were far
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  Speaker 2: from being poor, she usually was scrimped on meal times,
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  Speaker 2: even picking up old bones the local butcher threw in
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  Speaker 2: a box for his dogs.
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  Speaker 3: She could use them, she said, for soup.
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  Speaker 2: Not the Charles ever openly complained he always appreciated that
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  Speaker 2: his mom taught him manners. Del All told him to
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  Speaker 2: speak politely about other people or say nothing at all.
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  Speaker 2: She told him to respect women, especially when it came
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  Speaker 2: to sex. She lectured him about the way his father
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  Speaker 2: acted greed he was sex whenever Fred saw her in
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  Speaker 2: the bedroom and her bra and panties, he tried to
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  Speaker 2: grab her. She was going to have none of that,
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  Speaker 2: and she was going to make sure Charlie never tried
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  Speaker 2: anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: With his girlfriends either.
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  Speaker 2: It's just one of the first indications we can see
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  Speaker 2: that there might have been some kind of abuse going
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  Speaker 2: on or domestic violence between the mother and the father.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I really sure exactly what was happening. We don't
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  Speaker 3: get the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Story, but just by the way it seems to have
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  Speaker 2: affected her mother his mother here, we can speculate Charlie
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  Speaker 2: never tried anything like that with his girlfriends either, at
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  Speaker 2: least not in the beginning. As he grew older, she
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  Speaker 2: insisted in chauffeuring him every time he was on a date.
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  Speaker 2: She would even call the girl's parents to let another
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  Speaker 2: son would not do anything untoward.
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  Speaker 3: So you can see this kind of over the top.
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  Speaker 2: Obsession with respecting women, which is hey, look, it's a
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  Speaker 2: great thing. But you can see here she's gone overboard,
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  Speaker 2: continued chauffeuring him. She's really guarding him and protecting him.
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  Speaker 2: She's over protective mother. And sometimes what that happens is
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  Speaker 2: the person develops who kind of develops anxiety, a fear
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  Speaker 2: of the world, paranoia, loss of control sometimes because what
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  Speaker 2: happens is you have you start developing an external locus
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  Speaker 2: of control things on the outside. It can hurt you
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  Speaker 2: without you having any control over him. So Dell, as
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  Speaker 2: we mentioned, was overprotective, and friend said sheerly she was
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  Speaker 2: because she had never raised a job before. Charles himself
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  Speaker 2: recognized how fiercely she wanted him to succeed. She taught
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  Speaker 2: him so much reading and writing, in fact, that he
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  Speaker 2: was moved up two grades early in elementary school. And
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  Speaker 2: this is where the eyes come in. A Dell also
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  Speaker 2: introduced Charles to the world of taxidermy when.
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  Speaker 3: He was eleven years old. She'd rolled him in the
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  Speaker 3: male Order course. You're beginning to learn an art that
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  Speaker 3: is second only to painting and sculpturing, and said Professor Elwood.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the first book of the lessons, a
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  Speaker 2: true taxidermist must be an artist. As Charles set to
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  Speaker 2: work on the dead birds, he found Dell's right beside him.
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  Speaker 3: She showed him how to use all the tools.
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  Speaker 2: The knife to use to cut the skull, and the
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  Speaker 2: little spoon to scoop out the brains, and the forceps
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  Speaker 2: to pull out the eyes.
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  Speaker 3: Respectfully and dutifully.
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  Speaker 2: Charles spent hours on his taxidermy courses, stuffing and mounting birds.
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  Speaker 3: Then he would be ready for the crowning. Touch the eyes.
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  Speaker 2: He used to go to a taxidermy shop and stare
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  Speaker 2: at the boxes and boxes full of gloriously fake eyes,
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  Speaker 2: owl eyes and dear eyes.
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  Speaker 3: He loved their aridescent gleam. Yet Dell wouldn't let him collect.
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  Speaker 2: The eyes as much as Charles wanted to. Taxidermist's eyes
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  Speaker 2: were just too expensive, and as frugal mother would say,
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  Speaker 2: there was a better and cheap away.
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  Speaker 3: She would open her pursuwing kit, look for exactly what
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  Speaker 3: she needed, and get to work. Then she and her
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  Speaker 3: son would place.
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  Speaker 2: The birds in the oak china cabinet in the front
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  Speaker 2: of the house. They were indeed Charles Arbright's first work
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  Speaker 2: of art, Just as the mail order booklet had promised
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  Speaker 2: everyone who came to the house would peer into the
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  Speaker 2: cabin and see what he had done, and there peering
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  Speaker 2: back would be his birds, beautiful, lifelike and blind.
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  Speaker 3: So you see, the bird had no eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Instead, they were so entinly against her delicate feathered faces
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  Speaker 2: were two dark buttons. The police officers we mentioned earlier
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  Speaker 2: had asked him if you had ever met to prostitute?
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  Speaker 2: You never knew a prostitute in Dallas. He shook his head,
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  Speaker 2: baffled by the question, never, and knew absolutely none of them.
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  Speaker 2: At the time I was arrested. I couldn't tell you
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  Speaker 2: the names of the motels they stayed in, but in
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  Speaker 2: fact he actually did. His first victim was an undeveloped,
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  Speaker 2: almost forgotten the lower class area. Turned up in an undeveloped,
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  Speaker 2: almost forgotten lower class area far south Dallas. She was
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  Speaker 2: a large woman one hundred and fifty six pounds, naked
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  Speaker 2: except for a T shirt and a brawl which had
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  Speaker 2: been pushed up over her breasts. Her eyes were shut,
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  Speaker 2: just like the birds, and her face and chests were
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  Speaker 2: bradley bruised. The killer had thought it best to beat
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  Speaker 2: her before firing forty four into her brain. It was
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  Speaker 2: Mary Pratt, a thirty three year old veteran prostitute who
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  Speaker 2: worked at the Star Hotel and O.
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  Speaker 3: Cliff, Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: That was the first victim for mister Albright. They quickly
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  Speaker 2: contacted the FBI when they had the unusual finding of
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  Speaker 2: the victim having no eyes. The FBI I kept data
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  Speaker 2: back then on the nation's most unusual and depraved mutilations
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  Speaker 2: bodies chopped up or organs removed or whatnot, but they
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  Speaker 2: found nothing about surgically precise cutting out of eyes. Longtime
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  Speaker 2: Dallas cops take pride and acting utterly affected by anything
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  Speaker 2: that comes their way, but this time West Faline, one
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  Speaker 2: of the police officers on the case, couldn't help it.
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  Speaker 2: Now we go back to Charlie's college days. What was
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  Speaker 2: he like When he was a twenty year old college
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Aubright transferred to Arkansas State Teachers College and Conway,
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  Speaker 2: Arkansas didn't take him long to become one of the
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  Speaker 2: school's most popular students.
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  Speaker 3: He was remarkably well rounded.
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  Speaker 2: President of the French Club, business Manager of the Year.
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  Speaker 2: When he signed up for a drawing course, the OWT
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  Speaker 2: professor was so impressed with Charlie's good looks that he
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  Speaker 2: made him the class model. Frankly, Charlie Irbrady had to
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  Speaker 2: feel some relief in being away from home. He was
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  Speaker 2: considered a very bright bully in Dallas. He graduated from
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  Speaker 2: high school at fifteen. He was something of a celebrity.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie's love for mischief had tainted his reputation. He had
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  Speaker 2: received bad deportment grades in school for shooting rubber bands
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  Speaker 2: and crawling out of study hall.
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  Speaker 3: He accidentally supposedly.
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  Speaker 2: Set fire to his chemistry teacher's dress and flunked a
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  Speaker 2: few courses because he says he was too bored. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: if his mother had found out, he would have never
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  Speaker 2: heard the end of it. So he sneaked into the
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  Speaker 2: school office, stole some report cards from a desk and
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  Speaker 2: filled them in with all a's. Proudly showed them to
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  Speaker 2: his parents, and all.
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  Speaker 3: The signatures were perfectly forged. It was all minor stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it wasn't like he went to jail because
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't kind, as Charlie himself will later explain, I
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  Speaker 2: just didn't know what I was doing. If anybody tells
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  Speaker 2: the truth, they will say I never did a.
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  Speaker 3: Mean thing in all my life.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was a time he was caught breaking into
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  Speaker 2: a neighborhood church. Then there was the top time he
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  Speaker 2: was caught breaking into a little store of stealing a watch,
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  Speaker 2: And there were the visits he and his mother received
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  Speaker 2: from Alfred Jones, a twenty year old psychology student working
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  Speaker 2: at part time as a juvenile probation officer.
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  Speaker 3: His recollection.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Arbright, he said, after being forty years in this
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  Speaker 2: world of psychology, a well known psychologist at to dozens
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  Speaker 2: of juveniles, the one he remembered most was Charlie Aubright.
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  Speaker 2: He states, he could divorce reality sufficiently from his value
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  Speaker 2: system so that he could tell you something false at
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  Speaker 2: the time and at the time actually believe he was
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  Speaker 2: telling you the truth, which is actually a common characteristic
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  Speaker 2: among psychopaths. The psychopaths actually they know they're telling you
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  Speaker 2: a lie. In the case of Charlie Ibright, he seems
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  Speaker 2: to have balanced these two things out. One of Charlie's
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  Speaker 2: relative said he Whilford thinks from stories because his mother
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  Speaker 2: was so stingy. Maybe he just wanted to rebel against her.
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  Speaker 2: We would never really know. Granted, Dale al Bright did
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  Speaker 2: whatever she could to keep a close watch on her son.
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  Speaker 2: As we mentioned, she was overprotective. She took him to
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  Speaker 2: the Methodist church each Sunday. She made him go to
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  Speaker 2: bed even when he was in his teens, at eight
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  Speaker 2: each night. Whenever she chauffeured him on a date, she
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  Speaker 2: washed him so closely he would joke about the way
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  Speaker 2: she drove.
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  Speaker 3: Charlie loved his mother, was that much was clear. But
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  Speaker 3: there were little things that sometimes bothered him.
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  Speaker 2: He was never certain, for example, that his biological mutter
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  Speaker 2: had been the brilliant law student that Dell claimed. He
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  Speaker 2: so hated Dale's cooking that he would stuff his food
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  Speaker 2: on a ledge under the table or give it to
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  Speaker 2: his dog. Dell fussed over him regularly, so much so
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  Speaker 2: that he began to get headaches, and Dale decided that
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  Speaker 2: headaches were from bad eyesight and promptly made Charles wear glasses,
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  Speaker 2: even though he had twenty twenty vision. Yet Dale couldn't
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  Speaker 2: protect Charlie the first time he left home. Right after
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  Speaker 2: high school, he enrolled in North Texas State College in Denton,
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  Speaker 2: but by the end of his freshman year, he was
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  Speaker 2: arrested for being a member of a student burglary ring
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  Speaker 2: that broke into three stores Charlie says he swore he
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  Speaker 2: stole nothing, but we know.
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  Speaker 3: About his value system.
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  Speaker 2: Til Albury went to the store owners and try to
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  Speaker 2: reimburse them. She tried to persuade the judge to let
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  Speaker 2: her act as Charlie's lawyer. She even asked if she'd
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  Speaker 2: take his place in prison. He can see this obsessive
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  Speaker 2: personality of his mother, who seemed to have a bad
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  Speaker 2: case of OCD and IVAN the diagnosis OCD obsessive compulsive,
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  Speaker 2: the compulsions coming from the constant cleaning and Charlie and
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  Speaker 2: the obsession of keeping him safe and keeping him healthy,
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  Speaker 2: protecting him. She will you wanted to protect his reputation.
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  Speaker 2: She wanted to no one in the neighborhood to know
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  Speaker 2: that he was a convicted felon. Sometimes you may wonder
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  Speaker 2: if she's trying to protect herself. Many times children represent
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  Speaker 2: the parents, and the parents don't want to be seen
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  Speaker 2: in a bad light. We've seen this in other cultures.
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  Speaker 2: It with honor killings. Right when the child, when the
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  Speaker 2: female or where their daughter has behaved in an inappropriate fashion,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the father and some of these cultures will kill them
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: as an honor killing because of disgrace.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: The family.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Arkansas State Teachers College was Charlie's chance for and he started.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: As he told the probation officer, he was going to
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: mend his ways. We'll see about that. He began to
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: date a young woman by the name of Betty Hester
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and many plans to marry her. He did truly brilliant
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in science, although he hardly studied. He made an A
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: and is a human anatomy course. Now, folks, there is
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: one misnomer. A lot of people think serial killers have
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: above average intelligence, or psychopaths especially, and that's actually not
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: really the case. Many psychopaths, the aggregate of psychopaths, actually
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: have just average intelligence. The same thing with serial killers.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But Charlie was one side of that bell curve. He
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: was an anomaly.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Charlie never saw playing the role of class clown.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Of all his great pranks, someone forget the one he
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: play on his friend Andrew and a fate of anger.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Andrew had broken up with the most beautiful girl in
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: campus and woman with beautiful eyes. After the separation, he
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: tore up several photographs. Over weeks later, Andrew got a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: new girlfriend asked for her photo. One night, will Andrew
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: was staring at his new girlfriend's picture. He realized that
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: something was wrong. He looked closely. It seemed that her
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: eyeballs had been cut out and replaced with good Lord,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the eyeballs of his old girlfriend, and disbelief, Andrew looked
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: up at the ceiling. They're staring down at him was
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: another pair of his old girlfriend's eyeballs. More eyeballs were
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: above the urinal in his men's bathroom down the hall.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: No matter where Andrew turned, he was confronted by the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: sight of his old girlfriend's almond shaped eyes. The story
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: raced through the school. The jokes are showing Arbright had
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: pulled the old photographs out of the trash.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: And saved the eyeballs. But did any of the students
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: find this a bit strange?
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Most of them said it was just Charlie. He was
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: kind of inventive.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: The investigator asked him, why do you think the eyeballs
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: were missing? I don't understand either, decided why the eyeballs? Well,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: what kind of person would be able to cut out
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: the eyeballs of some prostitute? Someone who's sadistic, just one
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: mean son of a gun. I don't know the purpose
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: behind it. The detective really couldn't get a handle on it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: As we continue on, the police found their first clue.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Charles Art right, but unfortunately slipped right through their fingers.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: A prostitute, but thyme of Rodriguez told the officers of
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the previous night she had been picked up by a trick,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: driven a long way south to a field, and raped.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: The tricks a person who picks up prostitute. The man
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a white man, she said, and tried to kill her,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: but she.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Escaped and ran.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: The man at the house just happened to be someone
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: she knew. He also just happened to know the man
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: who was trying to kill her. Matthews and Smith, the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: officers gave me each other a look. Rodriguez was a
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: notorious liar. No doubt she had be in some kind
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: of fight, but in the middle of nowhere she ran
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: into the house of someone she knew.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Kind of odd. This is probably one of.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Another of Rodriguez's petty stories. Unfortunately, this happens a lot
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: with prostitutes, either because of substance abuse, her lying or whatnot.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's hard for the police to take their stories and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: face value, and when something actually does happen a lot
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: of times he gets tossed aside. Two days later, on
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: an afternoon, driving past the Star, officers Matthews and Smith
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: saw Rodriguez again. She was sitting with a balding, middle
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: aged white man in the cab of an eighteen wheeler.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Matthews went to one side of the truck to get
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Rodriguez an escort of the squad car. Smith went to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the other side to speak to the man. She asked
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: him for his driver's license, which he produced. His name
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and it was mister Schindler. Smith ran Schindler's name through
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the computer. He came up clean except for some unpaid tickets.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: But suddenly Rodriguez sorried.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Shouting, don't arrest him. That's the man who saved me
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: from the killer. That's him.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: The officers looked at the address again. It was not
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: out in South Dallas, where Rodriguez's attack allegedly took place.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: It was in an old cliff neighborhood, just five minutes
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: away from the Star, which is where the other murder was.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: The man is sort of a nervous guy who spoke
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: incredibly fast, said he had no idea what Rodriguez was
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: talking about. He said he had known her for years.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I was just giving her a ride.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: He didn't protect her from any killer.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: He didn't even have sex with her. Rodriguez, the officer, decided,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: was just lying once again. They cartered her to jail. Unfortunately,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the officers Matthews and Smith, would not know it for
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: months at A clue to the murderer's identity was right
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: in front of their nose. September nineteen sixty nine. Charles
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Arbright thirty six. At this time he began teaching high
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: school science in Crandell, small town I used to Dallas.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Charles Arbright had a master's degree in biology from East
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Texas Texas University and was working on another master's and counseling.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: He was also about to enter East Texas State University's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: PhD program in biology. Albright students found him fascinating on
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: field trips. He could recite and flawless Latin, the scientific.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Name for every plan he came across. He drove a
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: green corvette to school and wore lizard like skin shoes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: A few girls, smitten by his charm and masculine looks,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: wrote them love letters. He even helped the coach football.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: How in the world, the principal said, was anyone supposed
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: to know that the promising young teacher had forged.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: All those transcripts.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That's right, he was simply fabrogasted when an etsu's official
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: told me that Oberated had never earned a bachelor's degree.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Everything his degrees, his teacher's certificate had all been forged.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Apparently had slipped into three different offices that exits the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: East Texas State, grabbed all the necessary forms, copied them,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: added his name, forged signatures, and then sneaked back into
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the files. He had even stolen the registrars typewriter face
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: on his records would look to say had an East
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Texas State University administer and not realized that he had
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: never met the Charles R. Bright whose name kept popping
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: up on the school's list of graduate students.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Albright probably would.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Have gone away with the scam. When Albright was confronted,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: he grinned and admitted to the crime. He needed to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: bend the rules a little, he explained, in order to
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: get a teaching job. You can tell here I was
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: rationalizing it by bending the rules a bit, even though
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: he committed a crime, quite a serious crime. After he
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: quit Arkansas State Teachers College, well okay. He was kicked
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: out for being caught down at the train station with
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: suitcases full of stolen school property, including his own football coaches,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: golf clubs. He didn't think he was going to get
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: a second chance to prove how smart he was. By then,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: he had married his college sweetheart, Betty if you remember
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: her from earlier, and she had given birth to their daughter. Frankly,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: he didn't have time to begin Olibretty University. It was
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a crying shame, he said. If only he could have
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: finished his degree there, maybe his things would have been different.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Because of forgery was a victimless crime, and Albright himself,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: according to the one East Texas Ctate University administrated, it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: was such a nice, repetant fellow.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: The university decided to keep the.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Transcript scandal out of the newspapers. It was embarrassing after
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: all that the school got so bamboozled. As the seventies began,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Albright was back in his old Dallas neighborhood with his
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: wife and daughter, living in a house.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Not far from his parents' home. Once again, no one
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: had any idea of what he had done that Charlie Albright.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: The neighbors knew it was a happy, go lucky figure
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: who could master anything but simply didn't care.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: But settling down a nine to five job.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: He had money from his parents and his wife had
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a job as a high school English teacher. And this
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: is something I always tell people. You don't know really
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: who some people are.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: How many times have you spoken to your neighbor. Yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: some of you who might be in a rural area
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: in the country, of course, know most of your neighbors.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: But if you live in the suburbs or in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: urban areas, a lot of times most people don't. I
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: know countless people. I would say the majority of the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: people that I know living in an urban area in California,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that most neighbors don't haven't even spoken to their neighbor
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: for more than thirty minutes in a year. A lot
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: of them don't even know their names. So it's really
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: hard to get an image of anybody. And we'll talk
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: about this as the series goes on inside the Criminal Mind,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: because the media again will give you a false impression,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: as they did with a lot of them.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Jared Lafner.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: They said family was wonderful in the first twenty four
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: hours of the case, and then later on we find
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: out that people had a lot of suspicions and weird
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: thoughts about them, just.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Like other killers. So we continue on with our story.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: When Albright told Albright promptly went off.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: To Bright's beauty school and not bright School beauty school
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: he got his beauticians life and then persuading the salon
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: to hire him with no experience at all. This is
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: another psychopathic trait. He's very charming, very manipulative, and lies
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and rationalizes. This is the problem with psychopaths. Anyway, Albright
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: took to calling himself mister Charles. He would spend at
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: least an hour with each woman to get her hair
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: exactly right. When Albright told his stylist friend that he
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: was on, he was also an accomplished artist. The friend
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: paid him two hundred and fifty dollars to paint a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: picture of his wife. Albright indeed was a good painter,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: self taught. He had won a prize to the Texas
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: State Fair for his portrait of a dark haired woman
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: in a long green gown. Albright worked for weeks on
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the woman's painting without finishing. He insisted that he needed
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to keep working on one special feature. The most difficult
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: part of the feature. Tired of waiting, the friend decided
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to go to Albright's house to look at the work
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: in progress. There in the living room was the six
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: by three foot portrait. It was richly colored, remarkably realistic.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: The woman's hair mouth knows.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Everything was finished except for one part, the eyes. After
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: all this time, Alibright hadn't even begun working on the eyes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It was if something held him back, as if he
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: preferred the portrait to remain as it was on the
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: living room easel. Charles asked a friend, what are you
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: going to paint the eyes when I'm ready to? Months later,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Albright did finally paint the eyes. He painted them again
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to get them just right. He painted the proper shadows
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: under the eyelashes. When Albright was finished, his friend could
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: not believe how well the painting had turned out.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: It was he realized the.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Mesmerizing portrait, especially the eyes. His wife's eyes were so
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: perfectly recreated they seemed to follow a person across the room.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: There's no question you love eyes, the friend said, hmm.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety one.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: The second victim was found on Sunday morning on the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: same South Dallas Road where Mary Pratt was dumped. Like Pratt,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: she was mostly naked. Like Pratt, she was a prostitute.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Her name was Susan Peterson, age twenty seven. She also
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: had been shot in the head, chest, and stomach. This
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: time her eyelids, of course, were closed, because her body
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: was discovered on the other end of the road, just
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: outside the sety limits. The jurisdiction for the case fell
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: to the Dallas County Sheriff's Department, and a detective named
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Larry Oliver, who had not heard about the Pratt killing,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: was called to the scene. And this happens a lot,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: at least back then, especially when they fall out of jurisdictions.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: It takes a little longer to connect one crime to another,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and that's why some serial killers who like to travel
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: outside or travel to different locations are much harder to catch.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: And we can go over that as we learn more
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: about serial killers. There are different ones. Some of the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: killed in their old neighborhoods, some who like to travel outside.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Officer of the detective Oliver company in the body of
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the autopsy room where a pathologist began the standard examination,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: he was stunned when he saw it that the eyes
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: were missing. The pathologists mentioned that the Dallas Police Department
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: had a similar case, though Oliver did some checking. Within
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: twenty four hours, he traveled to the police department's homicide
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: office to see Detective Westphalen, the one who had first
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: found Mary Pratt. Soon there were meetings with sergeants and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: lieutenants with the chief in charge. While police officers deliberately
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: avoided the phrase serial killings to describe what was happening,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: west Falin kept referring to the killer as a repeater.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Everyone in the room knew what he was. What he
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: referred to.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: At that point a contingent of the detective's favorite keeping
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: a lid in the story. If the press discovered that
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the killings were linked and turned the spotlight on the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Star Hotel, the killer might just get nervous and start
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: picking up women from other areas. But homicide supervisors decided
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: that the police department had a greater obligation to warn
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the computer the community that it might be in danger,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: even if it meant warning prostitutes. Besides, publicizing the case
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: might bring in some leads.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Lord knows, there was little else.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: To go on, as flyers were posted around the Star
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Motel asking prostitutes to stay off the streets to Tectus
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: met with the press to discuss the two killings.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Although no information was officially divulged about.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: The missing eyes, Ward quickly lilked to the reporters that
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the women's faces had him mutilated in an odd way.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Officers Matthew, Theughs and Regina Smith sat in their squad
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: car reading the front page newspaper about the prostitute's deaths.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: They too were shaken. There were women from the beat,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: women they were supposed to protect. They knew Susan Peterson.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: She used to be one of the more beautiful prostitutes
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: in Oak Cliff, although her five years on the streets
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: had taken their toll. Her once alluring smile had turned
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: winter hard, and her body had grown plump. She even
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: cursed officers once, Matthews and Smith when they tried to
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: remove her off of Jefferson Boulevard. Like a good pickpocket,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: she was an expert at clipping a trick person who
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: hires a prostitute stealing.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Money from his billfol way he was having sex with her.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: If the killer could get Peterson, Matthews and Smith said,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: then he can get any of the women.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: This time, officers Matthews.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: And Smith pulled up to the Star Motel, and the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: prostitutes didn't keep their distance. They poured out of the room,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: surrounded the squad car, and began to pass on their
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: personal list of suspects. The women talked about their kinkiest tricks.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: The men who went in to wanted to tie them
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: up or whip them. Smith made her usual impassioned speech,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: asking the girls just get off the street, but most
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: of them weren't buying it. And then there was Veronica Rodriguez.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Remember her. She'd been telling a lot of.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: People, reporters, other prostitutes as well as other officers, any
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: number of stories since the killings began. At first, she
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: said she had witnessed Mary prop being shot. Then she
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: said she had met a man who had been brown,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: only bragged about having killed Pratt. Now she said she
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: knew nothing at all about Pratt's death. About her own
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: rape in the South aust Field, she no longer said
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the killer was white.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Now he was Hispanic, and she said he might have
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: been black.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Almost everyone who spoke with her thought her brain is
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: fried from drugs.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Boy bothered Matthew, however, was that Rodriguez had never changed
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: her basic story about being attacked.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Usually she would forget whatever pity story she had told
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: if someone really tried to kill her in that field.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Because the man who supposedly save her, Schindler, know the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: killer too.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Matthews and Smith didn't know what to do next.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: They already told the Homicide division that Rodriguez claimed to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: have information about Mary Pratt. They had mentioned the attack
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and the possible Shindler connection. With that, they figured they
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: had done their job. Later, Detective west Feathern would say
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: that he never got the officer's tips. Unfortunately, I'm on
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: all the phone calls and all the messages. The name
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Schindler never crossed the desk. Whatever the case, the potential
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: break again was slipping away and the killer was preparing
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to strike again.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Back to Charlie, Now we'll look at some of his
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: darker secrets again. Most of these individuals have these.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Dark secrets that don't get out to the public. Either
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: they don't share them, and it's hard to find it
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: corroborating evidence or people who knew them in a different way.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: So let's go back to March nineteen eighty five.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Now, Charlie is about home well fifty two. The incident
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: was kept very quiet. There would be no trial, no headlines.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: The DA had arranged for him to serve a probated
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: sentence of ten years, which spent no jail time.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Privation. Probation was fine with.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Him, just as it was in nineteen seventy nine, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: mean in nineteen seventy one when he was arrested for
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: forging cashiers checks, in nineteen seventy nine when.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: He was caught shoplifting two bottles of perfume.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: And in nineteen eighty when he was sent to prison
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: for stealing a saw from Handy Dan.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: You can see his perpetual inclination to steal.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: He lept a maniac, for instance, but he committed these
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: crimes constantly.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Again, this could be back to his mother being so frugal.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: He just wanted something. It's really a.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Control issue for an individual like this. He just wants
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: to have control. He wants to be able to do things,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to be restricted. Having an overprotective parent like
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: his mom really restricted him and took away a lot
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: of control. And this could have affected Charlie in a
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: very negative way. And he was just looking for ways
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to get control and not to be restricted, to be
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: free in a sense, but that freedom had consequences because
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: he was breaking the law. When he was at to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: prison for stealing a saw, he actually had to serve
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: six months.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: But then at least his mother.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Could tell everyone that he was leaving Downs temporarily to
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: take an important job and a nuclear power.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Plant in Florida. You can see his mother lying isn't
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: helping either.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: This case, however, was a little different though if the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: news got out, I could humiliate him, not that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: He was guilty. He kept saying, over and over, I've
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: never touched that little girl.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: The family, his good girl's family was just looking for
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a scapegoat, and they had picked him. And Charlie Bright
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: one of the most dedicated members of the Catholic church
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: in East Dallas. He had first met the family in
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine when he began singing in the church choir.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: People admired his voice, even if it was untrained. The
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: monsterenior at Saint Bernard's Church called them good Old Charlie.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Albright was known to slip one hundred dollars bill to
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: someone who was down on his luck, but after he
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: met the little girl's family, He brought them a big
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: box of stakes. He dressed up his Santa Claus and
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: gave the girl in her siblings presence. Did anyone seriously
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: believe he was sneaking into her bedroom in molester? The
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: girl's parents tried to keep the matter quiet, especially at
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the church, because they didn't want to stigmatize their daughter,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: but they also wanted good Old Charlie to pay Allbright
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: worried that if he fought them, the story would leak,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: so on March twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five, in an
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: empty courthouse court room in Dallas, he stood before a
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: judge and confessed to knowingly and intentionally engaging in deviate
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of fourteen.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: He was fifty one.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: For the first time, Charles Albright's mask was slipping away.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: The gentlemanly, jecky like personality was actually a sexually perverted
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: hide that was kept hidden for many years.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Women who heard the story couldn't believe it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: After Albright dissolved what he called his loveless marriage to
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Betty in seventy five, a decade before he developed a
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: reputation as an old fashioned ladies man, he was still
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: getting by with odd jobs and family money, but women
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: saw him as a grand romantic figure, someone who showered
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: them with flowers and charismatic charisma, music boxes and candies.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: To one woman, he even recited from memory all forty
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: two verses of the Eve of Saint Agnes by John Keats.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: To another, he gave a slew of presence. But in
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: late nineteen eighty five, Albright fell in love with Dixie Austin,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: pretty shy widow, whom he had met on his trip
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to Arkansas. It was one of the most romantic times
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: of his life, so he says. At dinner, he charmed
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Dixie with stories about nature and art tony scholar photographs
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: he had collected from Reagan.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: And Hope Bob ho.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: He took her hunting in the county for salamanders. His dream,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: he told her, was to.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Find a new species of salamon vanners that he could
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: name after him.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Dixie actually said that sex with Albright was gentle and satisfying.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: He never talked to dirty to her, and never wanted
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: her to do anything that might be considered unconventional. He
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: certainly did not sneak off and have affairs. By the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: time he met Dixie. However, Charlie Albrighton already created another
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: life for himself, although he masterifully hid his secret from
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: everyone who knew him. He was a veteran of red
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: light districts all over Dallas. To some prostitutes, he was
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a horrmonger and a regular trick To others, like sugar
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Susan pat Peterson second victim, he was even a sugar daddy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: At Ranger Bail Bonds, the.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Company she used to bail her out used to bail
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: her out of jail, Peterson listed Shawls Albright.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: As her co signer.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: On one form she listed him as her best friend
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: in the event that she skipped town.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: There's also evidence that Albright was a.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Friend of Mary Pratt's long before she became a prostitute
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: in the early eighties. Albright's parents had long ago invested
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: in cheap rental property near where Mary lived, and at
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the time Albright was temporarily living in one of the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: rental homes. According to several sources, Albright had a brief
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: fling with one of Pratt's female friends and brought that
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: woman in.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Pratt over to his house for parties.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Other prostitutes say that when Pratt started turning tricks at
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the Star. Albright became one of her customers. Pratt told
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: him that the old man Albright was a good trick,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: willing to pay a little bit more than the going rate.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Soon Charlie Albright was making the rounds. Some of the
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: really girls he had a platonic relationship. He would just
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: pick him up and talk to them, take them to
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: get a burger, and drop them back off, not even
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: him running sex with them. Every Friday afternoon, for instance,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: he had sex with a married woman who hit the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: streets after her husband had gone to work.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Aubright, whom she called Pappy, felt sorry for her. She
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: said he was a sweet gentleman.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: If I had ever needed extra money, I would call
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: him and he would drop it off. But the married
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: woman said that by late eighteen nineteen eighty seven, she
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: had to put an end to her dates with Albright
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: because he began to.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Get more and more aggressive.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: She said he asked her to beat him, to spank
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: him like a child. Seems like at this point Charlie
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Albright's mind was devolving even faster. Another prostitute by the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: name of Edna Russell remembered meeting Albright when her friend
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Peterson asked her to do a double she said She
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and Peterson went with all Right into a militaria room.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: There he handcuffed him to the bed and began hitting
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: them with a belt and an extension cord.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: All the while shouting screen you.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Know you'll like it, and calling them derogatory names. Perhaps
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: there was no coincidence that Albright's life began to spend
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: out of control after the death of his parents, usually
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: a significant trigger. We see this a lot of times
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: as mass shooters as well. If you remember the South
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: lamb and Florida the shooter Parkland, Parkland shooter in Florida,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Nicholas Cruz, when his mother passed away a few months later,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: think he was doing Valentine's Day, he had a breakdown
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: without them around to look out for him, he repressed.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Part of Albright may have finally unleashed itself. He and Dell,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: who died of cancer in nineteen eighty one, were not
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: close In her last years. Dell was disappointed by the
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: way her son had turned out, while Albright found her
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to be a past especially when she would bang on
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: his door early on Saturday mornings to get help to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: fix up some little projects. But as his final gesture
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: of devotion to his mother, Albright went out and bought
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: a dress with the undertaker to put on her body,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the first new dress he had ever seen her wear. Surprisingly,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: he did weep at her funeral, racked with grief or
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: maybe guilt over the way he had let her down,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: We'll never know.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: He also cried a.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Frend's funeral his dad, except Foster adopted it a few
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: years later. Frankly had not been until after Dell's death
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: that Albright and his father became close. Albright remembered how
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Dell constantly nagged, had acquired husband bickering with some bickering
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: with him by problems around the house.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: With over gone, Fred seemed a lot more relaxed.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: And Albright would actually take him to dinner in nearby cafeteria.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: But Fred had a fatal heart attack in nineteen eighty six.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Albright inherited at least ninety six thousand dollars, along with
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: all of his parents' homes and property for what said
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: friends said were sentimental reasons. He kept the property in
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: his father's name. To bring in some money, he rented
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: one of the tiny ramshackle frame homes on.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: A street called Cotton Valley, and here we go, folks.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: He rented out one to the truck driver named Shindler,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: none as Speedy because he talked so fast. Sindler was
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: a singularly weird individual. He stacked the rooms of his
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: house with trash up to three feet high. He put
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: in an automobile engine in the living room, maybe a hoarder.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He lived without electricity and running. He was a colman,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: lantern for light and bottled water to try wash himself.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: All Bright's friends said he should get another renter, that
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Speedy was just a little bit too unusual, but they
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: always agreeable.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Albright Mitch Schindler through a female friend.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Well in nineteen ninety one, Shirley Williams was the next
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: victim for mister Albright. Especially on the Coven, units had
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: been sent out to stake out the prostitution areas and
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: run computer checks and the license plates of vehicles that
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: cruise by, just to see.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: If the owners might have any unusual criminal records.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Everything added to nothing. This was a killer in total control,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: a man who refused a panic.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: They thought, we've got to answer three questions. Why is
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: he after prostitutes? Why were both bodies.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Dumped on the same street and why are those eyes
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: cut out? In the early morning hours of March nineteenth,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: the killer changed tactics, being Charlie.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: On fourth Worth, Bolivard.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Another horror came out a few miles from the Star
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: named Shirley Williams emerged from the Avalon Motel where she
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: worked as a maid, according to another prostitute, and saw her.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Shirley was wearing jeans and a yellow raincoat. She was
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: found at six twenty the next morning, dumped on a
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: residential street at half a block from elementary.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: School in the heart of Oak Cliff.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: As children whacked to school, they could see the naked
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: woman crumpled up against the curb.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: An unopened condom was beside her.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Go look at her eyes and tell me if they're there,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: said his detective Westphalen.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: And the response was no, We've got number three, said
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: the detective.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: The autopsy and Shirley Williams would show that the body
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: the surgery had been hurried. The broken tip of an
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: ex act of blade was found embedded in the skin
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: near her right eye, but there were no witnesses, no
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: murder weapon, and no fingerprints. And now the killer had
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: changed and ethnicity is or a race. He killed a
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: black woman this time, and he had moved locations just
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: as the detectives had worried. The publicity about the case
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: sent the killer away from the story hotel to another one.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: In the autumn.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Before the killings began, Charles Abright was the model of
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: domestic propriety during the day, he put his carpenter.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Skills to use around the home.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: If he was prepared to become a modern day Ripper,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Jack the Ripper, none of his friends or family had
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: any idea. But we've seen a lot about Charlie. We've
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: seen a lot about his crimes. He even called his
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: mother a prostitute a time. He was not talking about Dell.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: He said he was talking about his birth mother. The
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: other men were speechless. Was this just one of Albright's
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: tall tales, many people wondered. But this might be the
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: link of why he killed.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Prostitutes.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Many people tried to verify the story of whether his
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: biological mother or Dell was a prostitute. Even the FBI
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: got involved. He learned that while his biological father could
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: not be traced, mother was actually a nurse who had
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: lived and died in which to tap falls. Maybe she
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: was never the brilliant law student her son had described,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: but there's no way that they could determine she had
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: he ever been a prostitute. Albright's relatives, in fact, consisted
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: that after a lengthy search through record of records, Albert
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: had been thrilled to find his biological mother As an adult.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: He actually visited her several times in which the top
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: falls and brought her gifts, and he even introduced her
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to Fred Albright. Yet somewhere in Albright's mind, the connection
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: between prostitution and motherhood had been made. It is possible
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: that Charlie Albright was wrestling with a very twisted version
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: of the Madonna horror complex, unconsciously seeking revenge on the
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: mother figures who disappointed him by associating with prostitutes, the
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: worst possible women he could find. On one hand, he
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: seemingly cared for prostitutes like Susan Peterson and Mary Pratt.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe they reminded them of his mother, or maybe they
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: were friends in the past. He would help them financially
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: and bought them dinner and gave them present, but he
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: also would punish them. Perhaps he hated what they had become.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Perhaps he hated what he had become. We won't never
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: know that. But there's only one flaw in Charlie Arbat's plan.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: One all Bright didn't even know about. It was Charlie's
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: truck driving tenant Schindler. He had decided a few years
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: back not to list to South Dallas address on his
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: driver's licensees.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: He'd like to say he preferred to keep his privacy. Instead,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: he put down one zero three to five El Dorado,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: the address for Charlie Albright. Once word of Shirley William's
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: killing spread, the star Wartel turned into a ghost town.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Prostitutes total.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Officers Smith and Matthews that they were leaving Dallas. Others
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: said they were getting out of the business. A few
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: women so desperate for drug many that they couldn't leave.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Moved together to a street corner next to the home
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of a man who promised to.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Serve as their lookout.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Cruising the area, Matthews and Smith spied a black prostitute
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: by the name of Brenda White. She was seventeen year
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: veteran of the neighborhood, and White tended to work alone
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: in a street corn in front of a church. The
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: officers decided to stop and make sure she knew about
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: the murders. Her response, well, I'm going to get my
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: black ass out of here, so she said, I just
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: had to mace the man who.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Jumped back on me the other night.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: White told the officer that a few days before, a
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: trick in a dark station wagon I pulled up along
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: beside her and she had gotten inside the car. He
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: was a husky looking white man with salt and pepper hair.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Let's go to a motel, she told him. No, He said,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I've got a spot we can use as a way
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: to protect herself. White never allowed a trick to take
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: her anywhere but a motel that was familiar to the prostitutes,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: so she told him to drop her off.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Immediately, suddenly a change came over his face. It was
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: like anger. He said, I hate prostitutes. I'm going to
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: kill all of you.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Before he had a chance to grab her, White shot
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: a stream of Mason to his face and.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Threw open the door.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: For the rest of the day, Smith and Matthews cannot
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: shake white story from their minds.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: They flipped their notebooks.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I was returned to Veronica Rodriguez's rambling talk about being raped,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: the one that originally slipped through the fingers. The next morning,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: as they were checking in for work at their police substation,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Smith said, we need to run a computer check on
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: that Schindler guy. Because county government computers contained more information
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: about citizens and city computers. Officer Smith and Matthews drove
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: down to a Dallas County Constable's office near Jefferson Boulevard.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: They put in Schindler's name, and the name Fred Albright
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: popped up. Fred Albright? Where was Schindler?
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Cook punched in another code.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: It turned out that this Fred Albright also owned properties
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: on Cotton Valley. Wasn't Cotton Valley the neighborhood in South
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Dallas where the first two prostitutes were found. Cook kept
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: typing Fred Albright, the computer reported was dead. Matthews and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Smith stared the screen and the only clue in the
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: case led them to a dead man. Maybe this something
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: to do with Charles Apright, said one of the.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Officers several weeks before.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Cook explained he had come to the office early one
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: morning and answered a call from a woman who would
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: not identify herself. The woman had been friends with Mary Pratt,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: she said, and though Pratt had met a man whom
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: she briefly did. He was a very nice man. He
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: had an odd love for eyes. Cook also asked for
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: the man's name. She said it was Charles Opright now, Cook,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: if you remember as the deputy constable that was on
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: duty who helped Officer Smith and Matthews.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: So now he's getting involved.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: If any other constable's deputy had been helping Matthews and
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Smith that day, the link to Albright might have never
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: been made. So this time the luck fell on their side.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Cook typed in another code impersonal for information for Charles
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Opbright popped on the screen. Somehow, They said Schindler and
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Albright were connected, perhaps Albright's sul Schuiler's friend, the one
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: who had tried to kill Rodriguez, who had said that
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: he knew him. Their hearts racing, and they looked to
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Albright's criminal record, and the officers discovered a string of thefts,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: burglaryes and forgeries, and the charge of sexual intercourse with
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: a child. The clerk then pulled out a mugshot of Albright,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: a photo of a rather handsome, well bellt man, just
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: like the man Brenda White had described. The clerk wondered
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: why Smyth Smith was so excited, and Smith responded, I think.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: We've got him.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: On the way to the homicide department, Matthews and Smith
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: rehearsed everything they wanted to say. Detective west Phalan greeted
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: them politely, and Matthew started and Smith interrupted, and soon
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: they were both talking at once. The detective said, calm down,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: take it's low. A few minutes later, after they finished
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: their presentation, the detective decided.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: They were onto something. He put together in a photo
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: lineup of six.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Mug shots and told and told told the officers to
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: show it to Brenda White.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Then they showed it to Veronica Rodriguez, who both immediately
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: pointed out it was Albright. Matthews called detective failed and
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: told them what happened. The only catch was all right,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Rodriguez shook visibly, but she refused to identify him. She
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: was so afraid of him she wouldn't pick out his picture.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: So the detective said, come on down here, bring her
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: down here, let me talk to her.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: The detective knew if he could not get Rodriguez to break,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have the evidence to go after Charlie. Brenda
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: White's story offered only the prospect of a misdemeanor assault charge,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: but if Rodriguez identified Albright, the Dallas police could file
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: charges for attempted murder and get a search war and
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: look through his house. They dragged down Miss Rodriguez, who
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: shook while she driving there, and shook while she was there.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Detective west Felin told Rodriguez about the.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Three girls and how they were brutally killed.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Slowly, Rodriguez looked over the mugshots while Detective of west
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Falin another officer watched. She reached for Albright's pharroto, turned
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: it over and signed her name. At two thirty in
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the morning on March twenty second, on Oak Cliff, a
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: team of tactical officers burst through the front door of
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: one zero three five El Dorado, Charlie Albright's address. One
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: cabinet was filled with exotic champagne glasses and other held delicate,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: expensive figurines of pretty young women.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: One wall were Life magazines and.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Valuable Monroe movie posters. Charlie was handcuffed and led away.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: He never said a word, stumbling out of bed and
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: her nightgown. Dixie Austin looked incredulously. Albright and then back
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: at the police. Unable to imagine what man she could
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: have what man she loved, could have done, she began
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to scream.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: For a long time.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: After Charlie Albright's arrest, most everyone involved in this case
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: wondered whether the police had enough.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Evidence to convict them.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Despite a withering all night interrogation by the detective West Failin,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Albright refused to confess to anything the actors. They've never
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: heard the names of any of these prostitutes. The FBI
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: even brought in a high tech machine that could see
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: through walls. Although the searches produced an array of interesting
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: items Carpenter's word working blades, and ex acto blades, copy
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of Grey's anatomy, they could never find the eyeballs, nor
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: could anyone ever find anyone who would admit to seeing
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Charlie with the three prostitutes and the knights that were killed.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Dixie claimed that on the knights in question, Charlie did
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: not leave the house early for his paper route, and
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: then he always came home on time. As the trial
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: date arrived, Veronica Rodriguez decided to testify as a witness
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: for the defense. She claimed that she and Aubry had
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: never been together and then whether detective Waste Failing had
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: coursed her to picking Albright's photograph. Schindler continued to deny
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: that he had saved Albright or Adigus from Albright. He
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: said it was a Hispanic man named Joe, but a
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: low key, thirty three year old prosecutor working for the
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Dallas County DA's office had a trump card. For the
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: first time in its history of the DA's office was
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: going for a murder conviction based solely on controversial hair evidence.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Days after Albright's arrest, the city's forensic lab report that
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: hairs found on the bodies of the dead prostitutes were
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: similar to the hair samples taken from Albright's head and
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: pubic area. As evidence goes, hairs are not always conclusive
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: as fingerprints. It's impossible to tell how many other great
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: haired men might look similar to Albright's hairs under a microscope,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yet in this case, the lab kept running tests. Lab
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: technicians said that the hair is found in the blankets
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: in the back of Albright's truck were similar to hair
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: samples from the first two prostitutes. Hairs found an Abright's
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: vacuum cleaner matched the hair from the third prostitute, and
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: then an additional piece of the puzzle came from officers
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Matthews and Smith.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: The officers found.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: A prostitute named Tina Connolly, who claimed that Aubrey was
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: one of her regular afternoon customers. She never saw him
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: cruise after dark, she said, except for one time the
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Knight Shirley Williams disappeared. Connolly took Matthews and Smith to
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: a secluded field near fort Worth, where supposedly Aubrey used
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to take care for sex. There they spotted a yellow
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: rain coat just like the one Williams was last scene wearing,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: and Harris on the coat and blanket and matched Albright's hair.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Albright's defend its.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Attorney tried to convince the jury at the case against
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Albright depended on the flimsiest circumstantial evidence. The killer, he said,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: was probably Schindler, which just happened to skip the.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Town the week of the trial.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Admittedly, the police had many unanswered questions about Schindler, but
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Detective west Finn, it's been hours interrogating him, trying to
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: truman if he assisted Albright or was always aware of
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: what Ibar was doing, but there was nothing to time
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: him to the case, except for an empty forty four
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: caliber bullet box found behind the house, which Albright himself
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: might have dropped there. When Schindler's and Albright's photos were
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: showing a dozens of prostitutes, nobody recognized Schindler, but many
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: recognized Alright.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Albright never testified throughout the trial. He sat quietly in
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: his chair.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: His shoulder slumped like a weak, humbled figure shook. In
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: his closing argument, Durrisli called Albright the former biology teacher.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Shook. Was the DA, by the way.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Call a j a smart man who just can't seem
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: to have a job. The DA warned the jury not
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: to underestimate Albright, that he had grown much smarter during
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: this trial, that if he ever got out of jail,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't make the.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Same mistakes again.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: On the sign December nineteenth, when the jury returned with
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: a guilty verdict and a life sentence, his wife Dixie,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: collapsed in the courtroom.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Albright's friends of what of the.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Reporters, It was as if they did not want to
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: be blamed for having lived with a vicious killer, and
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: the defense attorney was stunned, who generally thought he was
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: going to get his client acquitted, just walked out of
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: the courtroom. So we see the case of Charlie Albright.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Many who claimed that he was such a great guy, and.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: He was to some, but he wasn't to others.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: He had the same characteristics or the same factors that
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: contributed possibly to his behavior, which was childhood trauma and
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: one of the main factors that keeps coming up for
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: serial killers rejection. Again, not all individuals who've been rejected
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: as children, who have been faced who faced abuse, become
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: serial killers.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: But we do have to take this at the consideration
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: that an overwhelming majority.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Of serial killers have been abused, especially sexually abused, and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: have suffered great rejection from their parents.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: It's hard. It's one hundred and sixty eight hours a week.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: How much information can we actually get from what the
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: parents are doing with their children. How do we know
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: if their children parents are ignoring their children and they
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: never look at them, they keep them in rooms, all
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: these little interactions that can affect self esteem that we
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: never see, calling them incompetent, stupid, whatever. We don't know
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: those things. So it's really hard to make a judgment.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: But we can see similar patterns.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Which was abuse.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you like the psychological analysis and story of Charles Albright,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: the Eyeball Killer,