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Friday HAPPY HOUR! August 4th, 2023 | Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: It is happy hour. It is Friday, August 4th. We
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  Speaker 1: are so excited that you're with us.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Kelly. How are you from Iowa?
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Rachel. I'm great. I'm doing swell. Oh, good.
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  Speaker 1: That's such an Iowa thing to reply. So we have
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  Speaker 1: so much to cover today.
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  Speaker 3: So much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So do you want to kick it off with what
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  Speaker 1: you'd like to talk about?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Okay. Put me on the spot.
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  Speaker 4: Geez.
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay. We had some great episodes this week. Two
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  Speaker 3: of my favorites actually. So we had Bo Dito on Monday,
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  Speaker 3: Jay Godfrey on Wednesday. And those were like two totally
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  Speaker 3: different episodes, but both done in New York while we
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  Speaker 3: were there. And they were amazing. Very interesting. Bo had
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  Speaker 3: some awesome crime stories to tell. And then of course,
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  Speaker 3: everyone knows by now we went out to Raos afterwards
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  Speaker 3: and And then J, this is a subject that is
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  Speaker 3: super interesting to me. Ketamine therapy for mental health issues, depression, PTSD,
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that. I'm going to a music festival this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe there will be ketamine there. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to be doctor facilitated like it is
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  Speaker 3: in New Shama. So yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was so great being in New York and
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  Speaker 1: meeting these guys in person and having to get the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down with them and really ask them
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  Speaker 1: questions one-on-one. Bo- is such an interesting character. That episode
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  Speaker 1: was really good and really energized. I want to say
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  Speaker 1: we covered all sorts of topics and people might know
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  Speaker 1: him more for being in the headlines regarding the housewives
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  Speaker 1: of New Jersey, but this guy has such a track
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  Speaker 1: record and is such a huge homicide detective, private investigator.
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  Speaker 1: He's solved over 1400 different crimes. And, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: just so interesting. So that was a really interesting episode.
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  Speaker 1: And then we had As you said, Jay, who is
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  Speaker 1: the CEO of Nushama Wellness, which you guys all have
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  Speaker 1: to Google when you're done with this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting.
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  Speaker 1: You can get ketamine infused treatments within an hour to
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  Speaker 1: 90 minutes, go in and come out feeling like a
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  Speaker 1: different person.
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  Speaker 2: They recommend six treatments.
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  Speaker 1: It's in New York City right now, but he talked
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  Speaker 1: all about why talk therapy is kind of fading out
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  Speaker 1: and psychedelic therapy is becoming a thing. And he believes
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  Speaker 1: that in 10 years time, that will be what is
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  Speaker 1: prescribed as opposed to talk therapy or medicines, which don't
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  Speaker 1: get to the root of the issue. They just, the
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  Speaker 1: medicines cover up the hurt feelings and whatever physically is
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  Speaker 1: going on with you, but they don't actually target it.
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  Speaker 1: And that with the ketamine infused treatment, you really target
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  Speaker 1: what's going on in your head and your heart and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully get some relief. So it was a very interesting
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  Speaker 1: episode for sure. I'm excited to hear what people think
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  Speaker 1: about it through the weekend. So please take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to that.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I am excited to have companies like this clinic
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  Speaker 3: put big pharma companies that just try to put a
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  Speaker 3: bandaid on it, you know, with their pills and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: take this, you'll feel better. I'm really excited for the
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  Speaker 3: future of PTSD and depression treatment. I think it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So would you do the ketamine infused treatment if you
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  Speaker 1: were given the opportunity?
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  Speaker 3: I would. I don't feel like I have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of like you know, depression or mental health stuff or
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  Speaker 3: anything anymore. I feel like I've thoroughly gotten through my
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  Speaker 3: baggage over the years, but.
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  Speaker 2: No demons right now?
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  Speaker 3: Not really. I think that was more in my younger days.
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  Speaker 3: I'm much better now, but I'm very interested in it.
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  Speaker 3: I think it works. I think it works for a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people. I would try it just out of curiosity.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be a little bit nervous because- what if you
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  Speaker 3: have like a bad trip or something, which he talks
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  Speaker 3: about in the episode, that's very rare, but I would
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  Speaker 3: definitely try it for sure. Doctor facilitated. Yes. I would
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  Speaker 3: try that. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Me too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really scared of ayahuasca stuff like that
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  Speaker 1: because you know, they say that you shit your pants
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  Speaker 1: and you throw up everywhere. So I'm curious about that
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  Speaker 1: whole process and that is actually what's hindering me from
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  Speaker 1: doing it. I feel like I'm somebody who's been through
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  Speaker 1: a lot in my life and I would benefit from ayahuasca.
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  Speaker 1: And I hear you don't even need to be going
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  Speaker 1: through anything to benefit from it, but I would love
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  Speaker 1: to try it. I just am petrified of throwing up.
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  Speaker 1: When I was four years old, I ate poison berries
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  Speaker 1: and my mother gave me Ipecac on the recommendation of
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  Speaker 1: the poison control center. So I violently threw up. And
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  Speaker 1: to this day, I literally have a phobia of it.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'd rather be on a hijacked airplane than throw up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not kidding. It scares the shit out
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  Speaker 2: of me. And by the way, I have not thrown
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  Speaker 2: up since I was four. Don't you think that's weird?
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  Speaker 1: Anytime I get sick or like I get a stomach
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  Speaker 1: ache or whatever, I calm myself down so that I
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  Speaker 1: don't throw up. And then I don't go on roller coasters.
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  Speaker 1: I don't eat weird food. I don't really get drunk. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm V and if I ever hear someone say, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel well, I think I'm going to throw up.
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  Speaker 2: I like panic.
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  Speaker 1: I run the other way. If I hear someone dry heave,
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  Speaker 1: forget about it.
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  Speaker 2: I might pass out. Like it scares the shit out
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  Speaker 2: of me. So Anyway.
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  Speaker 3: We're lucky I didn't throw up when I came to
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  Speaker 3: visit you at your house a while back because I
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  Speaker 3: throw up. I'm a puker. Are you? Yeah. I'm a puker.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't take me much. Really? Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really have any friends that are pukers.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 4: I do. They think you're done for the day, but
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  Speaker 4: they don't know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the
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  Speaker 4: one square before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
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  Speaker 4: You deserve a treat. With eight flavors to choose from,
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  Speaker 4: you can choose the flavor you favor with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
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  Speaker 3: I'm such a lightweight. I can drink maybe like two
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  Speaker 3: drinks and then I'm like totally drunk. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's just sometimes it doesn't end well as we heard
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  Speaker 3: a few weeks ago so but speaking of puking there
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  Speaker 3: might be some puking this weekend I don't know I
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  Speaker 3: like I said we're I'm going to a music festival
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  Speaker 3: with my oldest son um things get a little crazy
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  Speaker 3: you know I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know what is the music festival.
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  Speaker 3: It is called Hinterland. It's an Iowa music festival. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like a very small scale version, like a little
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  Speaker 3: mini Coachella in the Midwest. Not quite as cool, but
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, very nice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm doing. But last weekend, you had
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  Speaker 3: an epic weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I went to Aspen and I got to go
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  Speaker 1: to a fundraiser for Big Green, which is a really
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  Speaker 1: interesting foundation that supports... teaching kids to grow food to
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  Speaker 1: make their food. And they have it in schools. They
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  Speaker 1: have it in different backyard projects, camps. And it is
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  Speaker 1: supported by Kimball Musk, the brother of Elon, and his wife, Christiana.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just like a very interesting group of people.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very interesting fundraiser. They made a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money during their auction for the cause, which was
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  Speaker 1: really nice. And, you know, I was really honored to
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  Speaker 1: be there and be a part of it. I got
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  Speaker 1: to meet Jewel, who has performed there in the past.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about both being from Anchorage, Alaska. So that
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  Speaker 1: was really fun. She's very sweet and very beautiful. She
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  Speaker 1: got up on stage and played one of the guitars
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  Speaker 1: that was being auctioned off. And so that was nice.
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  Speaker 1: And then the musical group this weekend, tell me if
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  Speaker 1: you've heard of them.
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  Speaker 2: They're called Daybreakers.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't. No. What genre are they?
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  Speaker 2: So it's very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: They have this, I don't know if the word is community,
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  Speaker 1: but for example, in New York, people get up really
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  Speaker 1: early and go to a daybreakers event and they dance
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  Speaker 1: before the day starts. And it's the way that you
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  Speaker 1: break your day, kind of. You start your day and
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  Speaker 1: you get a lot of energy from it. And it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, It feels like music that you can't,
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  Speaker 1: it's not music you can sing to. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: a rave a little bit. But I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine getting up at like six or five in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, going and dancing like this. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: going home, showering and going to work. It feels so awkward,
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  Speaker 1: but people do it.
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  Speaker 2: People love it. It's like a whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I think that sounds amazing. That sounds like right up
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  Speaker 3: my alley.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the performance.
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  Speaker 3: Band.
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  Speaker 2: So that, that was very cool.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, I'm happy to be home and getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for school to start here in Florida, which is interesting. Wyatt,
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  Speaker 1: my daughter and I have just moved here from New
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  Speaker 1: York city. It's going to be a whole new school
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  Speaker 1: year for her, a whole new class. And she has
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  Speaker 1: been in New York City with her father and my mother,
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  Speaker 1: who also lives there, for the summer. And now she
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  Speaker 1: will be coming down here to me. So that's been
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  Speaker 1: an interesting process of splitting up time with us in
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  Speaker 1: different states because that's never happened before. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think it'll be a transition for her.
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  Speaker 3: How do you guys do that? That seems like a
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  Speaker 3: lot of work, a lot of co-parenting stuff involved with that.
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  Speaker 3: How do you make that work?
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, normally this is something I would not
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  Speaker 1: talk about, but I'm going to talk about it because
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  Speaker 1: I think it's important. I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: sugarcoat the co-parenting thing. And, you know, I've seen some
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  Speaker 1: podcasts with people that it's all about co-parenting and it's all,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how to do this, how to do that,
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  Speaker 1: how to not react and how to appreciate your co-parent. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what about for us that have been really
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  Speaker 1: suffering as co-parents because we are not getting the kind
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  Speaker 1: of support that we feel we should be, or that's
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  Speaker 1: even like a normal level. And I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: have not said anything for a long time, if ever,
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  Speaker 1: but co-parenting has been very hard in my situation.
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  Speaker 2: I have been divorced. My daughter's 11.
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  Speaker 1: I've been divorced almost nine of those years. You would
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  Speaker 1: think that, um, we don't need to talk about anything
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  Speaker 1: besides pick up, drop off details with our daughter. But my, um,
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  Speaker 1: my ex has absolutely no boundaries. He's you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: still borrowing my mother's car every weekend with a new
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  Speaker 1: wife every year, just about with a new baby here
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  Speaker 1: and there. And it's, you know, I don't speak to
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  Speaker 1: his parents. When I speak to his parents, it's about
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  Speaker 1: my daughter and about her visiting and, you know, making
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  Speaker 1: sure that they, you know, are okay and how everything's
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  Speaker 1: going when she's visiting them, you know. But besides that,
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  Speaker 1: I would never think to ask to borrow anything from them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even if it was for Wyatt, I would
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  Speaker 1: never think to ask them to pitch in for anything,
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  Speaker 1: you know? Um, so it's just very odd to me
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  Speaker 1: because my mother is pitching in for bills for my ex-husband.
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  Speaker 1: She's pitching in for all sorts of things. His new
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  Speaker 1: wife has no problem with that, which I also think
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  Speaker 1: is weird. My ex-husband is very verbally abusive. That's hard
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  Speaker 1: because you have to keep that from your kids. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: when your daughters or your kids are the age that
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  Speaker 1: mine are, they see all that. That's why I got
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  Speaker 1: divorced to begin with. I didn't want a personal relationship
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  Speaker 1: with him. It was not working. So when you have
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  Speaker 1: this narcissistic, toxic person who is just out to get
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  Speaker 1: you and still nine years later doing anything they can
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  Speaker 1: to just argue. It seems very sickening to me and unstable. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and they call you all those like keywords.
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  Speaker 1: They call me all the names, crazy, manic, not a
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  Speaker 1: good mom. You know, all the things that they can
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  Speaker 1: think of that they think are going to like disempower me.
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  Speaker 1: And all it does is give me the power because
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy, it's so obvious. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: flashing light of how miserable he is.
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  Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
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  Speaker 4: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: a treat. With eight flavors to choose from, you can
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  Speaker 4: choose the flavor you favor with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
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  Speaker 1: Obsessed he still is with, like wanting to find out
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  Speaker 1: what's going on in my life. And it's really awful.
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  Speaker 1: So co-parenting has been very difficult. I'm so happy that
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  Speaker 1: I now live in a different state. I will refuse
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  Speaker 1: to talk about anything with him besides when he sees
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  Speaker 1: my daughter and when he doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's none of his business.
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  Speaker 1: It's never been his business, but he's been able to
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  Speaker 1: really affect, you know, a lot of stuff going on
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  Speaker 1: when I'm right down the street.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's just not.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, and I learned this from
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  Speaker 1: being on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew because I have a,
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  Speaker 1: who behaves inappropriately as well. A lot of people know
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  Speaker 1: what that's like to have a narcissistic parent and how
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  Speaker 1: emotionally upsetting that can be, traumatizing sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Drew told me a good lesson that when you are
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  Speaker 1: doing well, when you are getting healthy, the people that
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  Speaker 1: still are coming after you, the still people that want
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  Speaker 1: to put you down are the people that are just
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  Speaker 1: really getting jealous that you're getting healthy and they're not.
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  Speaker 2: And they're getting nervous that you're rising above. And they're not.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that was such an important lesson for
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  Speaker 1: me because now I'm able to tune out all those
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  Speaker 1: dumb comments because those are a reflection of them. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a reflection of how they want to put me
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  Speaker 1: down so that they feel better. And I've gotten healthy
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  Speaker 1: enough and independent enough that I'm like, it's almost laughable.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, wow, that's just how awful do they feel
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  Speaker 1: that they're trying to make me feel even worse. And
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  Speaker 1: the only solution for that is to cut them out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and I tried to cut my mother out, um,
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  Speaker 1: many years ago and she actually had the audacity to
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  Speaker 1: sue me for grandparents' rights, which is a thing in Manhattan,
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  Speaker 1: if you could believe that. So, you know, there are
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  Speaker 1: people that are just have a lot of ego, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of narcissistic and toxic traits. And the best thing
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  Speaker 1: to do is get your life to a place where
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  Speaker 1: you do not need them. You do not care about
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  Speaker 1: their opinion and you can literally move on. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: so happy that I'm at that stage and And it's
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  Speaker 1: just so gross and laughable that there are still people
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  Speaker 1: that have that personality where they just want to hurt
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  Speaker 1: other people.
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  Speaker 2: It's just gross.
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  Speaker 3: People hurt people.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they say.
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  Speaker 1: What is your co-parenting like? I know you have three
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  Speaker 1: kids with two different guys, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I got married really young the first time
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  Speaker 3: I was 19. We have Ian, who's 26. And then
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  Speaker 3: I got married 12 years ago and we had two
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  Speaker 3: boys who are nine and 11 now.
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  Speaker 4: So I.
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  Speaker 3: Fortunately, I get along well with both of them. Now
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  Speaker 3: with the first one, we were young and feisty. We
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  Speaker 3: did not always get along very well. It took several
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  Speaker 3: years before we got to a place where we got
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  Speaker 3: along and that our new people in our lives and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: we got along with them too. But it's easy to
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  Speaker 3: say like, oh, you need to co-parent positively. You need
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  Speaker 3: to do this. But when you are involved with a
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  Speaker 3: toxic person, all bets are off. All of that goes
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  Speaker 3: out the window. So I definitely sympathize. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I've had it pretty easy with my exes for the
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  Speaker 3: most part. We don't fight or anything. We get along.
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  Speaker 3: We are flexible with our schedules. We don't even really
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: have a set schedule. I get the boys on these days.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: You get them these days. If he has plans, I'll
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: work with him. If I have plans, we work together
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: on our schedules. So I've been super lucky. And oh, man,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I've seen some of the interactions with you and your
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: ex and stuff. And I really... Oh, wouldn't wish that
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: upon anyone. I, like I said, I've been lucky. So, yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: So anyways, moving on, let's talk about some, some of
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the things that have happened this week in the news.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: What have you got for me?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. So, oh my gosh. Well, I used
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to be into true crime. So I saw the story
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: about Taylor's show business.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, what a last name.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: That's not, That's so weird. I mean, I've never heard
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: a last name like that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Who's in Shabizness?
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: She needs to mind Shabizness. She did not mind Shabizness.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So in this meth-fueled sexcapade, she and her boyfriend, Shad Therion,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: they're from Wisconsin. They were hopped up on meth, had
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: this whole sex thing going. They were into like Rough sex, choking,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: things like that. And she was choking him with a
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: dog collar during sex. She admitted to this. She was like,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: what would happen if I just didn't stop? So, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: obviously her thoughts weren't rational. She was on drugs at
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the time. She shows no remorse. She just gave all
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: the details to the police. She just, she said she
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: enjoyed it. She kept going until she choked him to death.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And this story is so freaking sick. Like we were
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: talking about it last night and I was reading about
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: it and it gave me a stomach ache. Like I
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: felt literally nauseated when I read the details. She ended
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: up decapitating him. She played with his corpse afterwards. She
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: cuddled him.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: She.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: did more sex stuff with his body. And it ended up,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: she cut off his penis and his head, threw them
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: in a bucket in the basement. And his poor mother
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: found that the jury found her guilty in like, I
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: don't know, something super quick, like 30 minutes.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Or something like that. Well, what's crazy about that is like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: how did she.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Even decapitate him? How did she cut him, him up
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: into little parts? It was with the kitchen knife, I believe.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And that takes people a lot of.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Strength, right? I mean, that seems crazy. Is she blaming
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it on the drugs completely? Do you know?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even think she's like blaming it
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: on really anything. She just seems to be like an
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: evil demon sent from hell. She just enjoyed it. She
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: isn't showing her more. She's really not making much of
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: an excuse. I mean, she's saying it was meth related.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: She was on drugs, but she's not really doing a
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: whole lot.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't.
• 19:50
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  Speaker 3: Redeem herself. So it's just super bizarre, totally bizarre. And
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: if you read the articles, I don't even know if
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I really want to say it on our show, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: she was cutting rice. And doing other things to his
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: body at the same time, just loving it. It's just
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: so gross. Wow.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Well, this woman obviously needs to be in prison. Thank
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: God she is. And the justice system worked well for her. Also,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I believe a couple days ago, they came out sentencing
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Lori Vallow finally. If you guys remember, Lori Vallow was
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a woman from, was.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: It Idaho or Iowa?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, Idaho. Idaho. Okay.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Idaho, who went on sort of a religious, what's the word, campaign.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: She went on a religious journey.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Just like a breakdown. I mean, she just lost her
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: freaking mind.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Over Jesus. And I think it was over the world ending.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: She believed the world was going to end in July.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: There was a string of deaths. First, it was her
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: ex-husband who sort of questioned her motives. And one day
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: he came into the house and her brother, Alex, shot him.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: People thought it was an accident. People thought it was self-defense.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Then the next person who died was, I believe, the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: wife of the man who she married two weeks later.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And then after that, Alex mysteriously died.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And they all thought these were completely unrelated. I don't
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: know why. Meanwhile, her children were missing. It was Kylie
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and JJ.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And one of them was maybe autistic. I remember that
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: one of them had a little bit of a disability
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of some sort. And they were missing for something like
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: six months. No one could find them. She kept alluding
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to the fact that they were visiting someone and the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: police would come and look for the kids and she
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: would just give all sorts of answers. She ended up
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: going away to Hawaii with her new husband and eventually
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: somebody arrested them because they kept lying about where these
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: kids were. And I think at some point it was
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: common sense that the kids were no longer with us.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: They ended up finding the bodies in Chad Daybell's backyard.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: That is the person she married. And, you know, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: think she was alluding to the fact that Alex may
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: have helped kill them. He's the brother that died, so
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: we can't hear from him. But she was sentenced to what?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Life in prison? Is that where we're at with that?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: As far as I know, I saw life in prison. So, yes.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: So bizarre because, like you said, religious undertones, obviously, to this.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: She thought her kids were actually demons. They had a
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: scale of like how demonically possessed people were, and they
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: needed to kill them based on the certain scale. It
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: was so crazy. And they both, it seems like they
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: both believed that this was reality. And they had some
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: friends who were very concerned with them in the time
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: leading up to this. It was just another super bizarre
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: crime case. There've been lots of documentaries already made about it,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: lots of podcasts and stuff. So it's one we've been following.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: So- Well, all right. So good. She got what she
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: had coming.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone thought she was going to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: get out, but I wanted to sort of hear her
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: go to trial. I wanted to hear what she had
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  Speaker 3: And then something else crazy. You got me hooked on
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys, if you need some suggestions of what
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  Speaker 1: So I clicked on it. It's called Deep Fake Love.
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  Speaker 1: It's Spanish, but it's in subtitles. I was hooked and
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  Speaker 1: I watched every episode till the very end. And then
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I got Kelly hooked on it. Um, this was so
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: upsetting and you guys should totally check it out because
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it's so bizarre, but they set up a one, two, three,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: four or five couples. I think it was four or
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: five couples that are in deep relationships, loving relationships, One
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: was a gay couple. The rest were couples that had
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: been together. I mean, they had been together for six years,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I want to say. And the rest of the couples
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: had been together for something like nine years to eight months.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: They were separating them into different houses. They just, you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: separated them down the middle. It didn't matter who was
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: with who. And then they paired those houses with maybe what,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: seven or eight very good looking, savvy, interesting couples. people
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to see if they would cheat. And that was the
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: premise of the show, to see if their love was
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: real or fake.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And then you can tell them about the twist.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Okay. Well, yes. So beautiful people, super in love, it seemed.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: So they put them in these scenarios and then they
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: would bring the one side of the couple into the
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: hot seat basically and say, we've got a video of
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: what your significant other has been doing while you're away.
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  Speaker 3: And they would proceed to show these videos of their
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: loved ones cheating on them, basically kissing people, dancing with people,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: in bed with people. But the twist is, they didn't
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: know if these were real videos or AI generated. So
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: you've got these people just absolutely crushed by what they're seeing.
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  Speaker 3: They don't know if it's real or if it's fake,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: sure looked real. And then they show that kind of
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the process of how they make these AI videos too,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: like what the real person looked like and then what
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: the AI looked like. It was just crazy that they
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: could do that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: What's fascinating about this is that AI obviously is such
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a big topic right now, but I have never seen
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it used in a reality show. This was so incredible because,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: so what would happen is everyone, if we were in the,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: if we were in a group together, the five couple,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the five people in that one couple would come in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and they would play a video for them and it
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: would show, you know, let's say it was me and
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: they're playing the video. They would show my boyfriend and um,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: talking dirty to a girl, all of a sudden making
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: out with her, kissing her, sometimes even having sex with her.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Now the catch was, did they believe that it was
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  Speaker 1: real or fake? And it was like, do you believe
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  Speaker 1: in your love that he would never do that? Or
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: do you believe that this could be a fake video?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And the way they did these AI things were so
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: incredible because they would show the ones where they faked
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: it and it looked exactly like them. I mean, it
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: was absurd, but to sit there and watch the pain
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: on their faces of watching this person They had come
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to show that their love was so strong. And within
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: two days, they're having sex with someone else was, you know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: awful to watch. And then they would go back to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the house. And based on that information, they would decide
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: if they were going to cheat. So this is what
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: was so upsetting about the premise of the show was
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: because every time you got that information, it made you
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: more apt to cheat or to. break your bonds with
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that person because you didn't know if they were breaking
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: them with you and your mind and eyes had just
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: seen that they were having sex with someone else. So
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: those people that were like, I would never cheat. I
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: would never do anything to betray them. All of a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: sudden we're like, well, if they're doing it to me,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do it to them. And the worst part,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I won't do any spoilers because I don't think you've
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: seen the end yet or people listening may have not,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: but then they're played the tapes that are real and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: they're played the tapes that are fake. And some of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: these people have already like broken up by the end.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And you know, so then it's like, do you choose
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to break up now? We're going to yes or no.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And then now we're going to show you if it
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: was real or fake. And it's so, it's so, I mean, this,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you guys, this Netflix show was awful. It was so awful,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: but it was like a train wreck. You could not
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: stop watching it. And also it's a lesson on how
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: good AI is and how.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Advanced it is.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And you cannot believe things you see. I mean, whether
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: or not they're using that for commercials or movies or whatever,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: It just shows you that so many things are smoke
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and mirrors and you just do not have any idea anymore.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: That's what interested me almost the most. What are they
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: going to use it for in the future? It gets
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: in the hands of the wrong people and you've got
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: blackmail happening. You've got people putting your face on the
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: porn video or something. Or like saying, hey, to your spouse,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: they're in a relationship with me. Here's the video to
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: prove it or something like that. There's so many evil uses.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: it could go so far the wrong direction.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It's very scary, very scary.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But AI, as I think I said on another show before,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: because I went to a conference on AI a couple
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago and it showed how dangerous it could be,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: but it showed how great it could be. I mean,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: they are trying to break the code of language in
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: animals and they think that within the next 12 months,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: they'll be able to have a conversation with humpback whales,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: which is incredible. And in the next 10 years, they're
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: going to be able to speak to animals like dogs.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, imagine having a conversation with your dog and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: being able to plug in what you want to say.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And then the AI, the computer can spout out in
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: their language, me saying, hey, do you want steak in
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: your meal tonight for dinner? Or don't run through the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: gate when I leave to go to the gym today, whatever.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: No, with Nala, don't run away out of the yard.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: It really makes me worry about you, Nala.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Right, exactly. It would be so great to be able
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to say that. Or to say, listen, I'm coming back.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not leaving forever because the dogs get so upset
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: when you walk out of the house.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know. I know. Yeah. So that was a
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: crazy show. It was really kind of sad watching the
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: emotions on their faces, you know, made me question what
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I would do in that situation. So yeah, I don't know.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be in that situation though. It
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: kind of like made me like, well, cause they make
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: out all the time and they're so good looking. I
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: was like, damn, I need a boyfriend. But then the cheating,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: the cheating part, I was like, No, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it just reminds you how heartbreaking it is when
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  Speaker 1: you go through a breakup. It's worse than a broken leg.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, a broken heart is just the worst.
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  Speaker 3: The worst. It's the worst pain. Definitely the worst pain.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: So who do we have coming up next week? We
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: have a couple of amazing interviews. I think totally different interviews.
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  Speaker 3: We have Tim's story on Monday, which was a fabulous interview.
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  Speaker 3: Very inspirational. If you're looking for finding some meaning in
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: your life or a new direction, that's one to listen to.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys, Tim's story is a life coach for
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  Speaker 1: celebrities such as Robert Downey Jr., Oprah Winfrey, Charlie Sheen,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and has been known as the number one comeback coach
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: in the world. And so we sit down with him
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: for an hour and I talked to him all about
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: his tips, tricks, any special things that he wants to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: give as a message about how to find this miracle
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: mentality to change a setback into a comeback. So we
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: had a really great conversation. I think it's very helpful
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  Speaker 1: for anyone who feels stuck in their first act and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: wants to move to their second act.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: So it's great.
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  Speaker 1: And even if you, you know, by the way, it's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a universal theme to feel like you're stuck a little bit.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And we talked about that, like.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Everyone in one way or another, whether it's at their job,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: in their families, with their relationship, whatever it is, people
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: feel stuck.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: And this was just a great episode for that. And
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: then on Wednesday, Melissa Rivers.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: What an icon.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, that was a great guest. And you guys, I'll
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: give you a little spoiler alert. My computer died at
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the end of the interview. It was so horrifying. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I did that episode from my studio in my home.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: And I had the entire crew out in the living
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: room playing with my dogs who were going nuts. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: they were just trying to feed them snacks and no
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: one was paying attention to the computer. And I noticed
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: about a second before it died. And it was almost
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like an explosion happening when you see someone go, oh,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: what's that?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And then it's like, boom, you know? So I was like, oh,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I think my computer's about to die.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Let me plug it in. And I get up and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: then the whole thing dies. And it was just a
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: complete nightmare because, of course, you're talking to somebody like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Melissa Rivers, who I've been trying to get on the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: show for four months. And then it kind of ends
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that way. So I didn't get a chance to say
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: goodbye to her or give her a good send out.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: But anyways, it was a great episode. I did have
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a full hour with her anyway.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a great one. So and then
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: we will, of course, be back with happy hour on
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Friday as usual. Maybe we should drink that day.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of drinking, guys, make sure that if you
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: have an upcoming event, That you order Le Cool Champagne.
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  Speaker 3: It's lecoolchampagne.com.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. And then you can look it up on Instagram.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Le Cool Grand Cru.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And they are having a special fun competition where if
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you come up with a drink, you can DM them
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the recipe and the best one.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: They will put on their website. They will talk about
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: in their nightclub that they are performing in Vegas. The
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: catch is the drink has to be named after one
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: of their songs. So, like, get down on it. And
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: then you talk about what would be mixed with their
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: champagne to be, um, that drink. So super fun.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I have been listening to cool in the gang nonstop
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: since I was in Florida. So yeah, me too.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Just a little thing coming up in the next couple
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: of weeks. We have such great guests. We have Jeremy
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Jackson from Baywatch, Courtney, Talia, the school teacher who, uh,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: was struggling financially, decided to start an only fans account
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and now makes millions of dollars coaching people and, has
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: a really special thing where she teaches anyone in the
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: education industry for free. So I'm going to ask her
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: a ton of questions about what it's like to start
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: an OnlyFans account and a bunch of other people coming up.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: So just super exciting.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: But other than that, that's pretty much all we have
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: for today. So have a great weekend.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys have any ideas for future guests or
• 37:37
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you so much. Please.
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