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L52 Live with Alfred Santariga Dogman entcounters · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, this episode is with Alfred Santa Rica
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  Speaker 1: from the Bronxville Paranormal Society. It is just full of
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  Speaker 1: incredible experiences that Alfred has had and I'm sure I'm
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  Speaker 1: just just really just touching the tip of the iceberg
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  Speaker 1: with him. He is a paranormal investigator in the New
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  Speaker 1: York area. You can hear that in his voice. Just
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful person. I think he has his own show,
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  Speaker 1: he has his own podcast. He does a ton of investigations.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he goes out into the forest and the
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  Speaker 1: dog man stuff in this episode is scary. It was
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  Speaker 1: under his porch to try to take his door out.
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  Speaker 1: I followed him home. Just just a few things that
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  Speaker 1: episode with Alfred Santa Rica. Welcome back to the Eye
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  Speaker 1: at Jupiter Live. I'm your host Tom Franklin. Today we
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  Speaker 1: have on the wonderful, the Incredible, the good, good dud. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We have Al Santa Riga from the Bronxville Paranormal Society
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  Speaker 1: coming on the day to tell us about some of
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  Speaker 1: his experiences he's had with this incredible uh, this this
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  Speaker 1: this this being this thing that people are seeing called
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  Speaker 1: the dog Man.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Ah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cool guy. Now, let's welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Al Santa Rica. Hey, thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my honor to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's the pleasure is all mine. Man. I wrote
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  Speaker 1: you guys today, Hey man, here's the uh, here's the link,
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, it's eight o'clock right, And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I was in my drinking my call for
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  Speaker 1: this morning. I was like, is it so uh. We
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  Speaker 1: had a little bit of a confusion there. You have
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  Speaker 1: to get up early or you have to come up
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  Speaker 1: home from work late. So well we're here, dude, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy that you came.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's all good. We got it all straightened out.
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  Speaker 3: Not a big deal, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 3: it all worked out for me at least I'll be
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  Speaker 3: worked out for you as well. But yeah, no, it's
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  Speaker 3: all good.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good. So, Al, you were wrong with me.
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  Speaker 1: We did a pre recorded a couple of months ago.
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  Speaker 1: Could you please tell everybody a little bit about yourself
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  Speaker 1: and where we can find you. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: My name is al standar Riga. I'm the founder of
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  Speaker 3: the Bronx Fielle Paranormal Society. I wear a lot of hats.
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  Speaker 3: I'm mostly the director of the New York State dog
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  Speaker 3: Man Project, the director of the New York State Sasquatch Organization,
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  Speaker 3: the director of the New York State UFO Projects. I'm
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  Speaker 3: Regional director of the North American dog Mayan Project Region three. Also,
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  Speaker 3: I'm also a Muffon member. And my mom was a
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  Speaker 3: psychic and my brother was one of the first paraspsychologists
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  Speaker 3: in the United States. And the paranormal is just normal
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  Speaker 3: in my family.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's a lot of work to be like
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  Speaker 1: the chairman of all these Does that take up a
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  Speaker 1: lot of your time?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, you're constantly suffering from one side to
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  Speaker 3: the other, you know, trying to keep up with everything.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, my partner Brian helps out all the time.
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  Speaker 3: He's he's we're both retired, but I'm actually I actually
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  Speaker 3: still work. He actually doesn't, so he's got more time
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  Speaker 3: to play with it than I do. But he's actually
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  Speaker 3: the regional director of Region five director from the North
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  Speaker 3: American Dog mamb Project down in Florida and South South
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  Speaker 3: south East. So yeah, so we're you know, we kind
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  Speaker 3: of we kind of tag team everything together and we've
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  Speaker 3: if you can't do something, I'll try to jump in
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  Speaker 3: and do it a vice aversa, you know. So that's
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  Speaker 3: just you know, what we who we are, what we do,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, we always incorporated everything all of our
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  Speaker 3: I hate this term ghost hunting because no one where
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  Speaker 3: nobody's hunting anything. Our ghost investigating equipment into everything we did,
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  Speaker 3: whether it was cryptids or UFOs or you know, anything
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  Speaker 3: anything and all and all of the above. So we've
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  Speaker 3: always incorporated everything, all of our equipment into it and
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  Speaker 3: As years gone on, we've gotten more and more and work.
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  Speaker 3: I got like twelve stuffle bags or at the crap
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  Speaker 3: now that I don't even use, you know, so just
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  Speaker 3: so much stuff. God, I can't I can't stand looking
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  Speaker 3: at it anymore. But when I go out, I usually
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  Speaker 3: pack a sixty pound big because I'm one of those
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  Speaker 3: guys would rather have it and not need it than
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  Speaker 3: need it and not have it. And I'm always afraid
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  Speaker 3: to just leave something behind. So I'm stuck carrying the
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  Speaker 3: sixty pound big all night. But that's just who I am.
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  Speaker 3: I mean all that way. But uh, you know, so
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  Speaker 3: tonight I promised you, with the less time we were
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  Speaker 3: on that we would discuss my dogman experiences. I know
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  Speaker 3: you really wanted to care about those things.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, last time you were talking about there was
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  Speaker 1: a lake that you went to. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen seventeen, one of the two.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was fifteen twenty fifteen, Yeah it.
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  Speaker 1: Was, it was. That was a guys, go back and
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  Speaker 1: check out that episode. That's when I first met out
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  Speaker 1: and everything pretty much under the sun that you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine happened to him the night, very special circumstances a
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  Speaker 1: very special place and Al was there to see it all.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It's a pretty incredible episode. And yeah you were.
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  Speaker 1: You told me about I think in the green room afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, keep keeping them and I contacted
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  Speaker 1: you and now you hear man, so go you know,
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  Speaker 1: however it is you want to get into this man,
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  Speaker 1: but please be my guest.
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  Speaker 3: And that autograph I sent you the dog man behind
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  Speaker 3: the wall, did you look at that one?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? I did. Yes, that was a.
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  Speaker 3: Dog man that bluffed us. That the bluff charged us
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  Speaker 3: that night. But we didn't know it was a dog man,
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  Speaker 3: you know. We thought it was either a black bear
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  Speaker 3: or mountain lion. But we'll start there because that was
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  Speaker 3: the very first dog being experience. So long story short,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't know, but we were camped out above a
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  Speaker 3: dog man den, okay, And at one point, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we had a we had a big foot whoop at us.
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  Speaker 3: We had a big foot throw a rock at us,
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  Speaker 3: trying to get us out of this location, but us
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  Speaker 3: not knowing that there was a dog man den in
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  Speaker 3: the swamp, which I just said, let's stay. And at
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  Speaker 3: one point we heard something from charging up the ridge
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  Speaker 3: on all four and it was a quadruped and we
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  Speaker 3: were standing there and my camera guy Built, was sitting
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  Speaker 3: against the stone wall that ran across the rim through
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  Speaker 3: the woods, and he got up and he started running
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  Speaker 3: towards me because the sound of the quadruped was on
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  Speaker 3: the other side of that walk, coming up the ridge,
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  Speaker 3: and I reached over. And I don't know how I did
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  Speaker 3: this to this day. I never took my eyes off
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  Speaker 3: of where the sound was. And I reached over as
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  Speaker 3: he was running by, and I grabbed him and I
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  Speaker 3: stopped him and I spun him around. I said stand
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  Speaker 3: your ground, and we ended up in a triangle formation.
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  Speaker 3: Built to my left, ran to my right, me in
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  Speaker 3: the middle, and we heard this thing charging up the
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  Speaker 3: ridge and I didn't know what it was. I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was a barrow mountain lion. I pulled out my
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  Speaker 3: survival night because I was in between trees. Those guys
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  Speaker 3: pulled out their machetes. They had a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: open space to work with, and I said, oh man,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to sacrifice this left arm and kill
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  Speaker 3: this thing with my with the with the survival neck
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  Speaker 3: because I'm thinking it's a mountain lion. That says this
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  Speaker 3: thing is this wall. It's gonna jump right on me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the first thing it's gonna see.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So we hear the sound come right up to the wall.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing comes over the wall. We're sitting there with our whatever,
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  Speaker 3: not believing that nothing came over the wall. I had
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  Speaker 3: a little sony camera hanging around my neck. I took
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  Speaker 3: one photograph where I believe the creature was whatever it was. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I couldn't look at because it was pitch black
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  Speaker 3: and the back of the camera was real small. It
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  Speaker 3: was like but two inches by two inches. So I
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  Speaker 3: just dropped it and we jumped. Oh. We never heard
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  Speaker 3: the thing walk away. We never heard it go back
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  Speaker 3: down the ridge. We never heard it jump off into
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  Speaker 3: the swamp. We never heard it leave. So we jumped
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  Speaker 3: over the wall and we looked with all four cameras.
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  Speaker 3: We had all different kinds of cameras, and we didn't
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  Speaker 3: see any ing. And my cameraman, Bill had a fifteen
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  Speaker 3: hundred little flesh light and he lit up the woods
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  Speaker 3: like it was daytime, and we didn't see anything. A
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  Speaker 3: couple of months later, the guy from California reached out
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  Speaker 3: to me and he said, you know that picture of
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  Speaker 3: the wall, you got that night and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's like, you got a dog man in that picture.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, what are you talking about. Now,
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  Speaker 3: when we do our evidence review, there's usually like eight
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  Speaker 3: guys there, and we got on the sixty inch screen TV,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, you got a lot of fresh eyes
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  Speaker 3: on it, because not everybody can make the investigations, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had an investigation where everybody
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  Speaker 3: was there and so we're looking, nobody noticed this dog
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  Speaker 3: man behind this wall. So when this guy sent me
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  Speaker 3: this photograph and he circled it and he says, it's
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  Speaker 3: right here. And I looked at it and I seen
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  Speaker 3: the eyes shine, and I seen the muzzle, and I
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  Speaker 3: seen the pointed ears yes, and it looked like it
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  Speaker 3: had a blockhead, like a squarehead, almost like almost like
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  Speaker 3: Ayena kind of dog man, you know what I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, kind of like a kind of like a raccoon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, looking at it, it's it reminds me a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a raccoon. It's it's it's but it's
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  Speaker 1: it's distinctly pulled back. It's like it's it's. Uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: quite a quite an incredible photo. See if I can
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  Speaker 1: let's see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can see you can see his big
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  Speaker 3: black his big black nose sniffing us over the wall,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I didn't believe it
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  Speaker 3: when he when he sent it to me, I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was photoshops. I got my SD card out of
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  Speaker 3: my camera, I threw it in my computer, and sure ship,
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  Speaker 3: there it was. And I couldn't believe it when I
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  Speaker 3: seen it. And that was the very first experience with
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  Speaker 3: the dog man.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, now I see it better when you were telling me,
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  Speaker 1: there's a wall there and he's like kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of a stone wall. He's got his nose on that wall.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And you can see.
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  Speaker 3: The eyes shine from the flesh of the camera, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you look close, you can see his
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  Speaker 3: pointed ears like they're cropped. Yes, And to me it
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  Speaker 3: looks like he's got he's got a blockhead, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and they look out like a pimpull or something, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they come in different forms. I talked to be
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  Speaker 1: Moss quite a while ago, and the one she was
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  Speaker 1: looking at kind of the way I described it, it
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  Speaker 1: was like a like ike from Tom and Jerry, but
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  Speaker 1: a black one. So there's like the there's like, far
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  Speaker 1: as I know, I don't know much about it. You
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  Speaker 1: can correct me. There's like the I guess, more of
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  Speaker 1: the typical one, if that's even a wording. It's more
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  Speaker 1: of like elongated wolf looking. And then there's like other
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  Speaker 1: ones that people are seeing, which is it's confounding.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a bunch of different subspecies of them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like dogs, there's a bunch of different breeds, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean. They all don't look like some are different. No,
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  Speaker 3: you know that one, that one to me look like
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  Speaker 3: a hyena one. So a couple of months go by,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the I'm in my car going to work.
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  Speaker 3: It's what dirty in the more on it. I'm in
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  Speaker 3: my jeep and I have to go by a meadow.
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  Speaker 3: And as I'm going by the meadow, I see these
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  Speaker 3: two really tall It was a nice full moon that morning,
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  Speaker 3: the moon was really bright, and I see these two
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  Speaker 3: really tall creatures come out from underneath the trees, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And up here they keep the trees cut like at
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  Speaker 3: the ten eleven foot level, so they get underneath it
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  Speaker 3: with detractors to cut the grass, you know, and I
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  Speaker 3: see these too tall things come out from underneath the trees,
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  Speaker 3: and they're walking, and I'm the only guy in the parkway.
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  Speaker 3: It's a Saturday morning, four o'clock in the morning, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell is this. So I stopped
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  Speaker 3: my jeep in the middle of the parkway and I
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  Speaker 3: rolled down the window because the window is tinted. I
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  Speaker 3: rolled the window down and I'm looking at these things
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  Speaker 3: and they're walking, and I'm like, holy crap. I think
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  Speaker 3: these are two bigfoots coming out of the woods, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but I know that there's not really a lot of
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  Speaker 3: woods where they're coming out of. And then they did
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  Speaker 3: something that freaked me out. They dropped to all fours.
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  Speaker 1: They seen me.
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  Speaker 3: They both looked at me. They seen me looking at them.
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  Speaker 3: They dropped to all fours and they started running towards me.
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  Speaker 3: And as they were running towards me, I noticed the
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  Speaker 3: neck was going up and down like a dog's had,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when a dog runs. I had a German shepherd.
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  Speaker 3: I know what his head looked like when he ran.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, holy crap, these are not bigfoot,
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  Speaker 3: these are dog men, because bigfoots don't have any necks,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So I'm looking at him and They're looking
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  Speaker 3: at me, and they swear to god. It felt like
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  Speaker 3: they had me in some kind of trance. I was
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  Speaker 3: just locked in and watching them coming towards me, getting
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  Speaker 3: closer and closer, and eventually the little voice in the
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  Speaker 3: back of my head said that would be a pretty
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  Speaker 3: good time to go, you know. So I rolled up
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  Speaker 3: the window and I punched the jeep out, and as
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  Speaker 3: I was going, I tapped the brakes to see if
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  Speaker 3: I could see if they were actually made it to
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  Speaker 3: the parkway, you know, because the meadow was a pretty
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  Speaker 3: big It was a pretty big meadow, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: I tapped the jeep to see if they made it
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  Speaker 3: onto the park And when I tapped the jeep the
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  Speaker 3: brake lights, I seen both of them stop and their
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  Speaker 3: heads turned to the north, and they put their heads
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  Speaker 3: down and they both ran north like they had caught
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  Speaker 3: a whiff of a deer or something, and they would
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  Speaker 3: just run north to track them, you know, to go
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: get the deer. And I was like, holy crap, I
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: think I seen two dog men, you know. And I
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: was like, so I get to work and I call
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: my partner, Brian, because I get to work early, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I don't know. I think this
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: is what it was. I'm not really sure. And Brian's like,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you gotta go back. You gotta take pictures, you gotta measure,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: you gotta do all kinds of crap, right, And I'm like, oh,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing all that stuff because I know where
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: they came out of. There's a school there. My kids
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: played soccer at this school. There's not really a lot
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: of woods. There's just a small patch of woods, maybe
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: ten feet of woods. And Brian's like, you have to
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: go back because I was like, you know, that whole
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: week I would go to work and it would be
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: like a Department of Environmental Control truck in the in
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: the in the yeah, and it was there for like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: it was there for like three days, right, and then
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the second half of the week it was one was
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: d e C and one was something else another environmental agency, uh,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: DPA or something like that. I forgot what the other
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: one was, but but they were both. One was a
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: green little pickup truck with the emblem on it New
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: York state emblem that said d C. And another one
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: was like a uh the second one was like a
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: little blazer kind of truck, you know, and that had
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: an emblem on it too, and that one was beige.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I think the other one was green, and that had
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: EPA or something on it, you know what I mean.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: In another environmental agency. And the whole time I'm going
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: to work, these trucks are always in the same spot
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and I never see anybody. Right. Well, then I come
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: home from work the trucks that there, I go to
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: work the trucks that there, I never see anybody coming
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: and going. So finally Sunday rolls around is my only
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: day off. I said, Okay, let me go and see
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: what's going on in this location. So I go there
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: thinking I noticed like the back of my hand, right,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I was so insistent, telling brain, no, no, no, I'm
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: not gonna mae. I know everything there is. The kids
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: played soccer, their kids went to school day bla blah
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And he's like, you gotta go, you
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: gotta go, you gotta go. So I go and I
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: measure the tree from the from the base of the tree.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Two of the first branch was where I see these
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: things walk out of was about ten feet and these
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: things were just underneath it. So they were eight between
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: eight and nine feet tall. So then I went through
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: that little woods because I know it's only like a
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: ten foot patch of woods. And there's a stream there,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: and I end up down in the stream and there's
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: all kinds of people fishing, and I said, you know
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: what's going on? I said, Oh, the state uh puts
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: trout in the stream this stream this time of year.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. They filled the stream with trout.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Everybody's down there fishing. So I'm like, okay, they stopped.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: They're stocking this the stream with trout. So there's food here.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: So I go underneath the bridge, underneath the overpass, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I end up at a condo complex that has a
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: giant lake and there's frogs and turtles and fish in
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the lake, and there's geese and there's duck in the lake.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, holy crap, there's a lot of food here,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: you know. And I keep walking. I walk past the
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: condo complexes. I'm walking like I'm going to.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: My house right right right, like you're over to the place.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And I get as soon as I passed the condo complex,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: there's a giant cornfield. What's in the cornfield corn with
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: the corner tract deer with the zero tract, you know, predators,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, wow, thank god Brian told me to
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: come here and check this out, because I thought I
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: knew everything there was thinking there wasn't any food, enough
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: food here for a predator, you know, an alpha predator. Meanwhile,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: there's tons of food, just absolutely tons of anything from
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: deer to dust to fish, all kinds of stuff, you know.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: And I was like just so blown away by all
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: of this stuff that I found. And I was like, wow,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: thank god. I went, you know, and you know, told
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Brian and I showed Brian everything. Then all that winter,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I'm being pulled back to the swamp. I don't know
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: why I'm being pulled back to the swamp, but that
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: whole winter, I felt like something was trying to get
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: me to go back to the swamp. So I called
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Brian and Bill up. I said, listen, I know we
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: almost died that night. I don't expect you guys to
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: come in with me, but I'm going back to the swamp.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I'm being pulled there, and so I just want to
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: let you guys know I'm going. If no one knows
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: where I am, you guys know where I am. All right,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Brian and Brian Bill like, no, no, no, you're not
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: going by yourself, bro, We're coming with you.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I always wondered that about a gentleman like
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: yourself or investigators, is there any like trepidation to go
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: out there? I mean, you know, you know these things
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: out there, you get bluff charge, you have a picture
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of it, and now you're what is it about you
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that just goes you know what? I know, it's it's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it's frightful, but I'm going to do it anyway. How
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: do you get over that?
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: It's just, you know, when you're being pulled to a
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: certain location, you're really you can you can delay going,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: but eventually that energy pulling you is going to get
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: you to that location. You know what I mean? I do,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: And so I knew I was being pulled That whole winter.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I felt like I was being pulled. But it was
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: a crappy winter and I wasn't gonna try to walk
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: across the Appalachian Trail. It's like a goat trail with
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: you know, wearing rocks or icy rocks and stuff like that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: So the spring comes and and these guys say, Okay,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: we're gonna come with you. I think it was like junior.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: It was either late June orly July. And we decide
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: to go, and I told the sself, Okay, if you
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: guys come with me, don't drag me off in different directions.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: If you feel like you're being dragged this way and
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: you're being dragged that way, go don't. I got to
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: get to where I gotta get to. And they're like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: all right, I'll calm down. I'll calm down. You know, well,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: we'll go with you. So we go and we get
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: out there and we're getting pretty close to the swamp,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: maybe one hundred yards away from the swamp, two hundred
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: yards away from the swamp, and I get hit with
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: in for sound. All of a sudden, I start to overheat.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I'm sweating profusely and built porn water over my head
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: and Brian's shoving oranges down my throat, and you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I know I'm being hit with infra sound, but I'm
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: not thinking straight. If I was thinking straight, I would
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: have got behind a tree or a rock to get
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: to get out of the get out.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Of the the waves.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But eventually I do end up behind a little
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: stone wall, sitting down and it passes and Bill's like, okay,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: we should go home. We should go home, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: and you're getting hit with it for sound. You know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: you're all screwed up. You should we should go home,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you know. And I'm like, there's no way I'm going home.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I can see the swamp from where we are. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: don't know what's trying to stopped me from getting there,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: but all went to long. I've been being pulled here,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: so I'm going this difference on is not going to
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: stop me. So that passes. I get up. Everything is good,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: and we won't. We hike over to the swamp and
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: we're walking around, you know, and this is three educated guys,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: know we we're looking for experienced guys. And we're walking
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: around for a half hour and we don't see anything.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: There's nothing jumping out at us, just looks like woods.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And Brian's like, well, what do you know? Why did
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you think you were being pulled here? So I have
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: no idea why I was being pulled here, but we
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: haven't seen us. Well, we've been here for like a
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: half hour, we haven't noticed anything. And the little voice
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: in the back of my head says, jump on this
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: big boulder right here, So I jump on the boulder
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and the cattails are in front of us, and the
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: cattail like ten twelve feet high, and the voice says,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: move the cat tails with your walking stick. So I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: moved the cat tails with my walking stick. And there's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: a trackway going into the swamp. So I called Bill
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: and Bryan up on this, and everybody's up on this.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Giant stone builds zooms in to the the to the
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and there in the middle of the swamp. In the
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: middle is a dog man den. Okay, now we didn't
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: know it was a dog man den at first. We
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: just knew it was some kind of structure. And we
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: zoom in and we're looking at Bill zooming in this camera,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: and Brian and I are looking in on a monitor,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and there in the den is this giant black cane
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: nine head that looks like something from Van helsing right
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: and it's looking south, and right next to it is
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: another smaller one that looks like a hyaena and it's
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: snarling at us. It is not happy we are there
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and it's snarling at us, and so we're filming. We
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: don't see anything else in the den just yet. We're
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: filming and we're looking at the big the big K
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: nine one, and we're looking at the Hyena one and
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Bill goes, I'm gonna walk into that den. I want
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: to get closer. So he goes to jump, jumps off
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the rock and he goes to walk into the swamp
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: and he sings down to his knees and Brian and
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I have to pull him out. He can't go anywhere.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Go where do you think you're going? This thing is
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: nine feet tall. He can walk in the swamp. You're
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: you're five foot tall. You can't walk in the sap,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean goes like Bill's like thickfoot, but
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, just making an example. Your legs
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: are not long enough to go, you know. So now
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: we're walking around the location and that we've already been
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: at for an hour and we haven't seen anything. All
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, I noticed behind me is this structure
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: that looks like a corral made with down trees. It
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: looks like a natural corral. And I'm thinking, we gotta
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: get pictures of this. Is this some kind of choke
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: point where they chase the deers into and then ambush
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: them when they get to the narrow point part at the.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Other end of the corral, you know, right right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: And then Brian, Brian's walking and he finds Scot and
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: he's like, oh man, there's Scott over here.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: We take a photograph of the scat, we photographed that,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: we photographed the we photographed the corral, and now the
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: little voice is take a walk along the high ridge
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: on the western side and look at the swamps. I go,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: and I'm walking along the western ridge and I'm walking
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: north up the swamp and there from that vantage plane
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you can see a trackway that comes out of the
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: back of the of the back of the den and
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: goes straight down the middle of the swamp. Something's coming out.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: So you know, Brian's like, God, we got to bring
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: a drone in here. We gotta fly and drone into
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: this thing, and we gotta we gotta see what's in
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: this thing. And you know, and all of a sudden,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: it was like the blinders were taken off our eyes
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: and we've seen everything. Everything that was there an hour
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: before that we didn't see. All of a sudden stuck
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: out to us like like a I mean, we're finding
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: xes and arches and brakes and bends and twists right,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like you were there. It's like you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: were there for a long time. You kind of get
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: hit with the sound, you see one thing, you see
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: something of like you like hit a frequency, and all
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of a sudden everything became crystal clear.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: As soon as I moved that cat tails and I've
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: seen the trackway that led right into the to the den.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: It was like, but the blinders weren't just taking off
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: of me, they were taking off of Brian and Bill
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: as well, you know what I mean, Like all three
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: of us had blinders on. It was very very very
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: very strange, you know, like we couldn't see it and
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden everything was there. Meanwhile, it
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: was there the whole time. You know. It wasn't like
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: it just appeared. It was there. We just for some
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: reason we had we couldn't see it even though we
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: were walking around for an hour. So that was pretty cool.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: So then we yeah, I said, I was like, okay,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: this is why I was being pulled here. There was
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: a den below us that night, and there may have
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: been pumps in the den. And the thing that bluff
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: chargers are standing behind the wall, I'm pretty sure is
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the one that looks like the hyena that's growling at
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: us right right now, I'm pretty sure that's the female.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: So we go back to Bill's house and we throw
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: it on the Sea Stan screen TV. And we're looking
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: at everything, and as we as we get to the
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: part where the den is, Bill's mom walks in and
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: shed with coffee and cake, you know, and she's like, uh,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I got the coffee cake for you guys. We're like, okay,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: no problem, and she looks at the photograph with fresh
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: eyes and she says, what's that thing in the middle
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: there that looks like the creature from the Black Lagoon?
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, we see this thing to
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the right of the of the dog man that looks
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: like the hyena. There's a creature that looks like it's
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: either a reptilian or it's something that looks like the
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: creature from the Black Lagoon. Okay, and so now we're
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: now we're looking. We're all locked in on this creature
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: that looks like a reptilian and his mother goes, why
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: is it holding two little monkey's hands? And we're like,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And the creature has its
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: hands down to its side. And right next to it
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: are two tiny sasquatches and it's holding the sasquatches by
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: their hands. Now, I don't know what it was going
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: to do with those two little sasquatches. I couldn't tell you.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was bringing them back after
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: it after it abducted them. I don't if they was
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: feeding them, if the dog Man and it were gonna
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: eat them, I don't know. But like Bill's mom seeing it,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: we didn't even see it. She was the one who
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: pointed all of that crazy stuff out and we were
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: losing our mind once we seen it. You couldn't un
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: see it, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's just absolutely insane stuff.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, and it's like a Halloween party in
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the middle of the swamp there or something.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I know it sounds stupid
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: when you say the creature of black lagoon, so it
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: probably was a reptilian of anything. But what, yeah, what
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: what it was doing in the dog man den with
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: the two baby sass watches is beyond me. I don't know.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: So now that was in that was in June or July,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and I said, okay, this is this is why I
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: was being pulled here. Now I know why I was.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: There was a den. We were supposed to find the den,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: and we found everything that was inside the den, you
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, And then got Bill. Bill had
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: these amazing cameras, like they can see the alien bases
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: on the moon, you know what I mean. So when
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: he zooms in, Man, when he zoomed into that den
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: and the inside of that den, we seem everything crystal clear,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: you know. And yeah, because Bill is also a skywatcher
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: at night, you know, so he's got amazing cameras. And
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: uh so we go home and October rolls around. Yeah,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: it was either late September early October. And I'm a
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: dude who grew up in the city, Okay, And if
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: you live in the city and you have an apartment
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: on the first floor, you don't sleep with your windows
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: open because somebody will come in at sub point, you
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I I'm from Baltimore, man, so I know.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I live in the country. Now. We have no sidewalks,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: we have no street lights. It's pitch black up here.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: For the first six months, we slept with all the
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: lights on outside because we couldn't sleep it was so dark,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: you know. But now we're comfortable, and it's a hot
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: night and I'm sweating bullets, and I mean, you know what,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta open the window. I'm dying, So
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: open the window which faces my backyard, which faces one
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: hundred acres of apple orchard, you know, mountain behind your house.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm sleeping in the window is open,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: and we have our little cat in between me and
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: my wife. My cat patches are sleeping between us. And
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: three o'clock in the morning, I pop up out of
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: a dead sleep and I sit up, and I feel
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: like there's something in the yard, and I can feel
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: some kind of energy coming through the wall next to
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: me right and I have like I got like four
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: guitars lined up next to me on the side of
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: my bed, so keep yeah, and and in between my guitars,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I have a pistol grip twelve gage.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: So I'm sit up and I feel I feel like
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: and the little voices touch the wall. So I touched
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the wall, and I get in my mind's eye, I'm
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: getting an image of a dog man and I'm like,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: what the hell's going on here? So I go towards
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: the window that's wide open, and I put my face
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: right up against the screen, which is a really stupid
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: thing to do. And I'm looking out into the darkness. Yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm looking out into the darkness and I hear
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: something sniff me now, and I hear that the cat
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: next to me jumps out of the bed, runs upstairs,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: and goes and hides underneath the kid's bed upstairs. So
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, what the hell was that?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: So I closed the window and lock it. I grabbed
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the twelve gage and I start to walk towards the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: kitchen with a sliding glass door is where the patio
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: is to put the sensal lights on the backyard to
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: see what's in the backyard. And as I come in
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: through the hallway and I'm entering the dining of the
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: living room, the little voice in my head says, stop,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: you don't want to go out there. You don't want
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: to see what's out there. Go back to bed. Now.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: This goes against every fiber of my being to not
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: go and see what's in my yard. I'm that guy.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I'm the guy who runs towards shit that I don't
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: know what it is. I'll run right into you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: grizzly bear if I think there's something that shouldn't be
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: in my yard. But I stopped, and I'll go back,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: and I put the gun back between the guitars, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I go back to sleep. And I get up in
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the morning and I go to work, and I call
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: my partner Brian. I said, dude, I think I had
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: a dog man come to the house last night. Then,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: so Bryan says, okay, when you get home, look for
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: footprints in the backyard. Now, I just ran some new lines,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: water lines from my water well to my house.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, my pump.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: My water pump is in the basement, so we had
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: to run like sixty foot lines. So there's a sixty
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: foot patch of dirt sixty foot long, maybe four feet wide.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: There's no grass or anything to where we ran the lines.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: And those rot lines run underneath, right underneath my bedroom window.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: So I get home from work.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Nothing very interesting, okay, please, I'm sorry.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Just so I got I get home from work, I
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: don't see anything to anybody, and I grab my camera.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I get my little kiss ony camera and I go
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: and I walk around the side of the house and
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: there underneath the window is a claw marks four claw
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: marks a little window right where that clean dirt is
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: so you can see clear no footprints. I didn't see
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: any footprints, but there are four claw marks for this
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: wide Okay, so the four claw marks there, they were
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: about like this apart. I mean it was it was huge,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: and it was right under my window. Like, yeah, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: was here last night, you know, like saying saying that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So your intuition was then correct to not go out there.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, wow, the thing I seen in my
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: mind's eye, the dog man I seen in my mind's eye,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: and I seen the big one in my mind's eye,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: not the not the female, not the the big one
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: that was looking the other way, the K nine one.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, that's pretty crazy, you know.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm not thinking, are you telling me that these
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: things followed you home?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they tracked me home.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: How far away is this from your from your residence.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: From where we were, I'm gonna say maybe and miles.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: But you can go from there there. You can go
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: from there then to my house and basically stay in
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: the woods the whole way and just cross a couple
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: of small streets here and there. But like I said,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: none of the streets up here have any street lights
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: on them, you know what I mean. So you're always
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: in the darkness, you know.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And yeah, someone someone's asking you saw this in your head.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: When I put my hand against the wall, the image
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: of the dog man's head that had seen it in
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: my mind's eye. Yeah, wow, that's what I seen, because
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: originally I thought maybe I was saying trying. I was
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: trying to convince myself it was a big foot. I
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: get a lot of bigfoot that come through my yard
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: leave me gifts and all kinds of stuff. Really, yeah,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: but the energy, the energy was wrong, you know. I'm like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I was like, you know, when you're in denial, you
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: know it's not that, but you're trying to convince yourself
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: it is right. I was like, I was like, no,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: it's probably just a bigfoot, you know, and I'll find
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I'll find the coartz crystal stone on the fire pit tomorrow.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And but I knew, I knew in my heart the
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: energy was wrong. It wasn't a big foot, it wasn't man.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: That's what I see it in my mind's eye. And
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: so then about a month goes by, and now we're
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: in we're in the end of November and we're getting
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of packs of wild dogs running through the neighborhood,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: tearing up the garbages on garbage to day, you know.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: So I start carrying a little can of pepper spray
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: and a little little pocket knife because I don't want
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: to be a statistic on a government shot if these
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: dogs attack me. I want to be able to fight
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: my way back into the house, you know. And I
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: figure between the pepper spray, the pepper spray and the knife,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I'll probably be able to either get into inside, my
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: way into the car, front, my way into the house.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: So this is what I'm carrying with me every every
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: morning I'm going out. I got a really old, broken
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: down car, but it was a car ran like a top,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: but it would look like a tank and I would
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: have to out every morning to start it up to
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: let it warm.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Up right right, you know.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Now I got a brand new car with an automatic starter.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I never have to leave the house, you.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Know, drinking your coffee and just fired up from here.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: You a man.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: So I go out one morning and I walk out
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: the front door and I'm walking down. I'm walking down
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: the front walk in the central lights are going on
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: as I'm walking down, and I'm getting the feeling that
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: something is watching me, and whatever it is, it's behind me.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: So I turn around and I'm looking now my closest
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: to neighbors. None of us have any trees, so you
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: can see right across everybody's yard. It's like, you know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: almost one big yard almost right. And I'm looking at
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: my neighbor's house to the left. I'm looking at my house,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: and I'm looking at my other neighbors in the right,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: and I don't see anything, but I'm feeling something is there,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: but I can't see it. I know something is there,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: and the vibe i'm getting it it's in front of
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: my house, but I can't see it. So I'm like, okay,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna go start this car, so
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: you gotta jump in the car. I start the car up,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: the rooms at the car up, and I start to
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: walk back to this to the front walk. And as
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I walk back to the now at this point, the
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: central lights go off because I'm in the car. I
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: get out of the car and now sense of lights
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: are not going to go back on for another ten
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: feet till I get closer to the front steps. At
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: this point, there's four cars in the driveway, my daughter's,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: my sons, my wife, and mine. Mine is the one
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: closest to the street because I'm the first guy out
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: in the morning. So as I'm walking back to the car,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: the central light is not on yet. I have the
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: sense of lights hooked up to the front deck, you know, right,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm seeing what looks like a shadow underneath my
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: front deck, and I'm like, what the hell is under
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: my front deck? Who's under my front deck? My wife
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: and my daughters have to come out. My wife's gonna
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: come out to go to work, and my daughter's gonna
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: come out to go to school. Is there somebody hiding
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: under my front deck. This is not gonna happen, not
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: on my watch. So I flip open the knife. I
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: can't out the pepper spray, and I start walking towards
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: the garage door because it's under my deck. And as
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I start to get towards the garage door, I'm starting
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: to see a giant canine head, the biggest head you
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: ever seen in your life. It was umongous, and I'm
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: seeing the point it is, and I'm seeing a main
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: coming down off its chest, and the little voice in
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: my head says, you should stop right here. And I'm
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: about a car length away from this creature at this point,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: and I'm looking at it. I don't see any red
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: eyes or any yellow eyes. I don't see any teeth.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: All I see is darkness, darker than the darker than
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the dark, okay, and that sense of light is on
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: it's blind in me. And I'm like this, and I'm like,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: what the hell is that? But I know what it is, okay.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And it's like hat Man and hat Man and dog
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: man form.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: And the voice in my head says, and I'm assuming
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: it's my voice, I'm, you know, my little guardian angel
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't think it was the dog Man
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: talking to me. It could have been telepanther communication from
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: the dog Man. I don't know. But the voice says,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: you should stop right where you are because if you
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: get any closer, you're gonna get shredded. That's what I heard.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: You're gonna get shredded. Okay. So I stop, and I
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: start to back out, and I back out, and I
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: go back in the house and I close the door.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: And now I'm debating do I wake up my son
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: in law is sleeping over, my son is here. Everybody's
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: got guns. We're a gun family. I got all kinds
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: of guns, you name it. I got it right, And
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like sure. I'm like, okay, do I wake up
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: my son in the law and my son load up
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: the guns and go out there and put this thing down?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: You know? Am I going to war with this thing
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: or what? And then I hear the voice in my
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: head say, no, you don't want to go to war
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: with this thing. It always ends up badly for people
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: to go to war with this sing You're just oh,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: you know what, I forgot to tell you. As I'm
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: walking towards it. When I get up in the morning,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: we have an outside cat, Cali. She sleeps in the doghouse.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I open the slotting. I opened the sliding glass door
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: up and I feed her four o'clock in the morning.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I close the sliding list or my sliding list door
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: has like three four different locks on it, right, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I feed Cali. Now as I'm walking towards this thing
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: under my deck, Calie's coming around in front of the
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: house to use my wife's guard and that's a litter box. Okay.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: She sees what's underneath the deck and she jumps up
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: she does, like an hallowing cat. And this little seven
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: pound cat ran into the woods like so, she said,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: like a bulldogs are running through the woods. She couldn't
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: get out of it. So that set up a red
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: flag automatically for me.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Right, okay, so you're already yeah, all right, So.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: This is all going on. Calli's running and she seems something.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: So now I know it's whatsever under there is dangerous
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: because the catchers ran for its life and and this
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: little cat is a killer. She chases foxes out of
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: the yard and everything. And so I go inside and
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I say, okay, you know what, I'm not gonna go
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: to war with this thing. I'm not gonna tell anybody
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: about it. I'm just gonna get in the car and
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: go to work and make believe it never happened. Get
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: in the car, I go to work. I draft to work.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I'm downstairs in the lunchrym. I get there now early.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I'm having my coffee, have them buttered roll, reading the newspaper,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: and my wife calls me and she's hysterical, and I go,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: what's the matter. She said, I opened up the door,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: we came down, we came down around. I don't know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: seven o'clock whatever time. She got up six thirty and
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I opened up the sliding list door to feed Cali,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: and I was like, what do you feed Cali for?
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I fed her at fort thirty in the morning. I
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: was gonna feed this cat, you know, And she's like, well,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: when I went to open up the slot, oh, I'm leaving,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I've almost forgot something. So as I'm leaving to go
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: to work, I got my tactical flesh light with me,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: so I want to I want to see. I want
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: to get my eyes on what's under there. I said,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: it's just like darkness. So I hit the underneath the
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: deck with the tactical flesh light and there's nothing there.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I walk underneath the deck and I just put up
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: a new retaining wall to hold the deck up. And
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: on my new retaining wall, this dog, this dog man
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: pissed all over my wall. He pitched all over my
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: wall and it yes. I ran down the wall into
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: the driveway, down into the gutter and it's like smelled
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: like pneumonia. And I was like, I was pissed, like
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: this son of a bitch just pissed on my brand
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: new wall. You know what I mean? I just packed
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: this wall built and he pistol over. So now I
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: got to come home and scrub. But otherwise he's gonna
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: stink the high heaven, you know. Not knowing that. As
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: I was underneath the front deck looking at the piss
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: on the urine staying on the wall, the dog man
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: was on the back deck trying to pop the sliding
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: glass door open. He was trying to pull the thing
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: out of its frame.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, how do you know that? How do you know that? Now?
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Because, like I said, I have the way my door locks.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: It locks in three different ways, right up, down, and across.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: So okay, okay.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: So when my wife took all the locks off to
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: slide the door out to feed the cat, the whole
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: frame fell out of the wall. Good thing. My son
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: was in the kitchen. He caught it and pushed him
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: back up and they locked everything back in place. Now,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I told my wife just leave everything alone. I'm off tomorrow.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I'll reset the trap, I'll put everything back, you know
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: what I mean, I'll take care of it. So while
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I was in the front of the driveway looking at
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: the piss on the wall, he was in the back
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: trying to pop the door open. And I think he
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: was just trying to tell me, this is how easy
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: it is to get in house for I want to
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: get in, you know. But because I'm so anal. With
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: the sliding lift door, I got three different locks on it.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't come out of the frame, wouldn't come out
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: until all the locks were unlocked, you know, because they
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: were actually the frame itself was locked into the ceiling,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: the wall, and the floor, you know, so it didn't
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: So but when he unlocked all of that stuff, the
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: whole thing started to fall inut of my wife and
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: she called me. She was hysterical, and I was like,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: all right, just leave it alone and I'll fix it tomorrow.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I'm off. I'll take everything down, I'll retrack everything, and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: i'll put everything back up, you know, and straight, I'll
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: straight and everything out, YadA, YadA, YadA. And so then
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this was a real Like. I
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: guess he felt like he didn't get his message across
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: the first time he came like that little floor mark
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: in the dirt, Yeah, I guess he wasn't. He didn't
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: think that was enough of a warning. So he came
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: back and he gave me a warning and this time,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: it was like, I know where you live and you
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: know where I live, and let's just leave.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: It at that.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: So I went back to the den. Okay. Now, I
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: don't know if that the first time I went to
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: the den. The day got hit with the difference. Now
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: if I pissed anywhere in the woods by his den,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: because you know, I didn't remember urinating anywhere, but yeah
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I could have because I drank a lot of water
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: and everything because I was overeaten from so I may
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: have urinated in front of his den. So he urinated
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: on mine.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: You know. Did someone to ask? Someone's asking? Here is there? Uh?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: We had a question from Justin White. I'm sorry you
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: were in your story.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Justin White asked if there's any Indian burial grounds around
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: your area.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there are any, not that I
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: know of. No, not that I know.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah, I just wanted to clarify because sometimes
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: people have questions and I have to. When it's alive,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I have Yeah.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Right after that, I went back to the den there dead,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: and I said, listen, I got the message. You know
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: where I live, I know where you live. You stay
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: here and I'll stay there. And we never have to
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: cross Pats ever again, you know. And I never went
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: back to his den after that, and I've never had
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: an experience with him coming back. And then right after that,
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: I had I had gone with Brian. We were we
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: were doing an investigation at the same asylum's cemetery, okay,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: And it was a weird place.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: There.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: All the all the all the sites, none of them
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: have tombstones. It's just crosses with number on them. It's
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: a big hit. It's a big hill that goes up.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: There's a monument there. It was a beautiful full night,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: full moon. It was like sixty five degrees. It was
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: gorgeous and we're sitting there and all of a sudden,
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: the clouds roll in and the fox starts rolling over
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: the hill, right, And it looks like the beginning of
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: a werewolf movie from Hollywood, right. And I swear, I
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: swear to God. And Brian and I are walking along
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: the cemetery doing your EVP work, and Brian goes, did
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: you hear that? And I go nope. But on my
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: audio record on my camcorder, you hear a right between us, right,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: But I didn't hear it. He heard it audibly but
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: I had to I had to play back to hear it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Now there are a few houses and these people have dogs,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: and the dogs are going crazy all night long, they barking,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: and then something comes out of the woods and does
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: this crazy scream howl that just sends shivers down your
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: and all the dogs shut up. Okay, so Brian goes,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: what the hell is don to go? I was like, yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: that's that said, I go in the audio, you hear
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: me say that sound like a deep German shepherd bark,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: but much bigger than a German shepherd. And Brian's like,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: sound like a dog man. I'm like, yeah, I'm sure
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: it was a dog man, you know, And we.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Found you sent me audio. You sent me some audio
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: today where there was he was mixed in with the coyotes,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and at the very beginning, it's distinctly different. It's a
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: it's a different register, it's a different frequency, it's it's weird.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, so I don't I don't. I don't
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: know if that's the same thing that you heard. Yeah, yeah,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty wild, guys, it's pretty wild. So then.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: It's getting cold, and I said, let's leave, and as
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: we're leaving, we're being pulled into the woods. And as
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: we're being pulled into the woods, we find this structure.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: It's a tree upside down with the all up the
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: trees into the ground. And this tree with trees like
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: sixty feet tall and like six feet wide and it's
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: turned upside down, and then there are other trees wedged
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: into the root bowl all the way around. Looked like
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: a catrausel. Right, Okay, yeah, We're like freaking out, like
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: what the hell is this? We never see And then
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Brian starts to wander off towards deep towards the woods,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: and I go, Bran, stump, I feel like we're being
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: pulled into a trap here. I think we should bail
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: out of here, you know. And he's like, you know what,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: You're right, because we were on like you just really
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: big rocks, and it was like if something came at us,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: we couldn't even ran on it stuff, you know, So
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: we backed out. We took a lot of photographs of
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: the tree and the root ball, and I mean, and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: the crazy thing about it is the trees that were
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: wedged up into the root bowl weren't even touched on
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: the ground when we went over to him. We went
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: like this with our hands and we could they were
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: like six seven feet off the ground still, and they
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: were like thirty forty feet long, you know, and none
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: of them, none of them were touching the ground. They
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: were all suspended in that root bowl. It was absolutely nuts.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: It's like a pie or something.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pray, absolutely nuts. So as we're leaving h and
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: this cemetery is not like any cemetery you've ever seen,
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Like I thought we were going to a cemetery in
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: the city. Okay, I didn't bring any weapons. We didn't
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: have any machetes, no survival knives. I think the only
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: thing I had was shoot cans of pepper spray that
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: I happened to have in the jeep. So we took
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: that was because there's no place to park. There's no
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: sign for the cemetery, and you have to walk down
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: a path that's a quarter mile long into the woods
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: before you come out to like a power line cut
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: and that's where this that's where this cemetery is. It's
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: really creepy, creepy place. So we had a parker. I
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: had to park my jeep up on the dirt on
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: the other side of the road. There was this one
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: lonely little street light right on the other side of
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: the road that had a jogging pit attached to it,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: like you could run up the mountain or you could
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: run down the mountain. And as we're walking back to
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: the car, we have our headlamps on and we see
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: eye shine behind the car and I stopped Brian, I go,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: look eye shine. He goes, yeah, it's amber color eye shine.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: And it's five six feet tall. And I go, if
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: that's a dog, that's the biggest dog ever seen. And
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: he goes, yeah, it's marmaduke, you know what I mean.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: And he goes, So he's looking at it. We're looking
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: at it, and I'm like, oh, man, I hope it's
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: a deer. And I hope as we get closer to
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: it it runs away, you know. As we're getting closer
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: to it. It's not moving. It's just sitting there, just
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: sitting there. Now the jeep is parked maybe ten feet
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: from this thing. This thing is in the woods, and
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: it to me, it screamed dog man. It had a
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: dog man vibe to with the energy. And I told Brian,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: I said, this thing is hunting this trail. Now, I
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's hunting this trail because it thinks
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: whoever owns this car is on this trail and it's
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna ambush him on the way down, or
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: if it's hunting this trail because it hunts here every
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: night for deer. I said, but we got to get
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: the hell out of here. And Brian's like, dude, I
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: gotta pass. And I was like, get in the car,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: pissed on the else side of the road. He's like, no,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: you don't say I gotta pass right now. I'm like, Brian,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: get in a car, and he's like, I gotta pass.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: If I get in the car and aiss and you
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: see it, I said, well, don't pis on my seat.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: So he goes behind the jeep and he's pissing against
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: the tree with his back to this thing. I'm watching
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: this thing. I'm watching it, okay, and I'm cursing Brian
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: getting a jeep je jeep and he's got this long
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: ass piss going on for like ten minutes, and all
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, this dog man goes down to a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: belly crawl and I don't know if he shut its
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: eyes or what, but at that moment I couldn't see
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: it anymore. It went dark on me. When it went
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: dark on me, I jumped into the jeep and I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: backed the jeep up as close to Brian as a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: kid without hitting him, and I swung the door open
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: to put the passenger side door between him and this creature,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: because all I could see was this thing getting ready
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: to pounce on his back.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Right, it's like getting old.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: It's getting and he's pissing, and he's pissing and he's pissing,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: and I'm cursing getting a jeep. I'm gonna leave it.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna leave me. What are you gonna tell
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: my wife? I got eatn by a dog man. He's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: making jokes and I'm like, dude, getting f in jeep,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: you know. And all of a sudden, when I jumped
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: in the jeep and I backed up and I flipped
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: the door open, he knew something was wrong, and I said, bride,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: I lost sight of him. He went dark on me
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: getting the jeep, and he got goosebumps at that point,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: and he jumped in the jeep. I did, like a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: dukes of hazard. Can't get out of there fast enough,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: you know, And we hauled ass out of air, and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: you know, he could have definitely been killed that night.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I probably would have got killed too, because I would
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: probably been stupid enough trying to save him. But I mean,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: it was a crazy, crazy night. And then I don't
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: think there was anymore after that. Oh well, there was
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: the time the men in black stopped me because of
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: the dog man that threatened me. But that's a whole
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: different story.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's that'll be in a month and a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: half or so.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: I was I was researching dog man. I was coming
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: home on the Parkway, Okay, and then as a cutout
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: power line cut out in the parkway, and above on
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: the top of the cutout is a shed where the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: power line people have their quads to go from line
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: to line because the line goes up this giant mountain,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: you know, so that they drive from. And they had
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: tools in there. And as I was driving by, I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: looked up because I always look up at the power
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: cut and on top of the roof of the of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: the shed, there was a dog man up on the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: roof and it was sniffing. It had its head up
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: in the air and it was sniffing. It looked like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: it had its arm on the power line, you know
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: what I mean. I don't know if it did or
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: it didn't, but from my angle, my vantage point, it
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: looked like it did and it was sniffing. So I
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: was like, now, Brian and I I had seen a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: bigfoot up there, and we went up there and we
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: researched it and we found we found knuckle prints, and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: we found a knee print, you know what I mean.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: And we found we found all kinds of bigfoot stuff.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: So now we know dog is it. So now I'm
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: researching this on the dog man thing. And right across
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: the street from where the power line got it's an
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: old ski resort. It's closed down now, it's like an
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: outstation for the state police. Yet you know, and the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: people who do construction on the parkway use that parking
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: lot to stage stuff in, you know, all the construction material.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: And I got pulled over one time by a car
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: and I was threatened. My life was threatened in my
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: livelihood and all this and it was and they were
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: telling me, you think, what you know what's going on
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: in those woods? No, you don't know. I don't want
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: you in my woods. I don't even want you in
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: the park. I don't want you to know where you know,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: state park, no county park, no federal park. I don't
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: want you in any parks. And I was like, yeah,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I mean it's I'm I'm lasting over a whole bunch
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: of shit that happened.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: They knew who I was, Yeah, they knew who I was.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: They had a book on me, and they had a
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: milk partner, Okay. And they told me that a I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: didn't stay out of the woods, not only would I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: lose my pension because I worked for the federal government,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: but I would go to jail. And I'll tell you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: off her for what sure, very shit, because they can
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: put whatever they want on your computer.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ok.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: And then and then they told me, and tell your
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: fat friend in the Bronx, and they gave me his apartment,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: his building number, and his apartment number and everything else.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: I said, tell him to stay out of the woods too,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: because if he doesn't, you'll never There's no how they
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: say you'll never, You'll there's no You'll have no idea
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: what kind of weapons we can take out of his apartment.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: And in Manhattan, in the city, you're not allowed to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: have any guns. In New York City. You can't have
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: any guns, okay. So if they went, and he said,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: we'll arrest him for as a as a domestic terrorist
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: and there's no telling what kind of weapons we could
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: pull out of his apartment, which is all bullshit. He
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: doesn't have any weapons.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: And I told him, I said, my partner's the big boy.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: He's gonna do whatever he wants, but I'll pass the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: message along, you know. Sudden I stopped investigating up there,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: and then just this October Halloween, I go my cousin
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Surean back to one of my big Foot locations. It's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: called the Sacred Site. And just as we get to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: the Sacred Site, we're not there five minutes. We're just
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: throwing our backpacks down. Now. The Sacred Site is about
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: a mile west of the dog Man Den. Okay, Okay,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: it's in the same woods. The dog Man's on the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: east side of the woods. Bigfoots around the west side.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: And I go to the Sacred Tite all the time,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: and I've never had any issues with anything Bob and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: me there, especially dog Man or coyotes.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: And we get there, and soon as we get there,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: we drop our backpacks and we hear this most loudest,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: powerfulest howl flash scream you ever heard. And both me
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: and Sean are scrambling for our phones because we got
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: nothing else to record because everything is still in the backpack.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and Sean is he's younger than me, he's
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: twenty years old. It's a little faster than me. And
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: he's standing closer to the edge of the sacred site
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: and he turns on his phone and on his recording,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: you can just hear the tail end of the dog
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: man finishing. As soon as the dog man finished, a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: pack of coyotes were off, like dirty coyotes. And we're
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: up a mile up the mountain on a high plateau,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: and and it's daytime out you can see we're filming.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: You can see this daytime, and the sound is rising
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: up above the trees and just coming over us like
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: a tattle lafe. And it sounded like there was a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: hundred coyotes in the woods that day. And then they
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: start to they start to go simmer down, and then
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: they go off again. And when they go off a
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: second time, in the middle of them going off the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: second time, you can hear the dog man go off again.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Is that video you sent me.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is the video I sent you. Okay, yeah,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: So Sean says to me. So Sean says to me,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: do we have to worry about the dog Man. I'm like, no,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: the dog Man's actually come up here. This is the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: sacred site, this is Sasquatch territory. They if they come
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: up here, And I think what happened once there was
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: a there was a time when I believe the dog
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: man try to take that from the big Foots because
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: there's a section of the woods that's attached to that,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: to that sacred site that has been destroyed. I mean destroyed,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: like there was a major battle there. And I researched
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: because I was the other week before and the woods
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: were fine. I go back the next week in the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: woods are destroyed, and I mean big trees, thick trees,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: tall trees. I mean the woods are so destroyed that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: the Appalachian Trail you couldn't use it anymore. They had
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: to cut a new trail for the Appalachian Trail. Okay,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: that's that's the size of these trees that are down,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: you know. And you can feel the residue of a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: negative energy in this area, you know. And I think
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: the dog man tried to take that territory and this
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Askmare said, not on our watch, you know what I mean,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: and push them back.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: But do you think there was a battle in the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: forest between a family or group of bigfoot and dogmen? Yes,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I have never heard that. I should have titled that one.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: I took a lot of photographs. I forgot who I
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: was with that day, but I may have been with Bill,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: and I told we took a lot of photographs and
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of video. I don't know if it's on
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: the BPS YouTube page, and I don't remember if Brian
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: put it up. But because the woods, not only were
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: the woods destroyed, and you know, and I we researched it,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: were there any micro burst? Did a small tornado touch
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: right right?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing happened that week because we were there just
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: the week before and the woods was immaculate, you know,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: and so there was no micro bursts, There were no
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: tornadoes touching down, no storms blowing through. It was beautiful
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: weather that whole week. But the woods were destroyed, and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: the energy in the middle of all that destruction was
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: a very very heavy residue of negativity, you know, And
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: so then me and me and my cousin Sean are
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: up at the Sacred Side all night long. We do
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of stuff, and we decide it's getting
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: really cold, it's getting late, and we decide to bail
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: to come home, you know. So we said, okay, we're gonna,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: we're gonna come home. And we hike down from the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: high Plateau down to the Appalachian Trail, which is like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: a mile straight down the mountain. And there's that stone
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: where there's a stone wall there, like a four foot
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: stone wall, because these stone walls run all over the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: mountain of the woods here in the in the northeast.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: And we come down this little hill. It's not a
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: very big hill, you know, maybe a forty five degree angle,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: maybe thirty feet up, you know, something like that. And
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: we get down to the lake and we here directly
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: behind this the most powerfulest scream you've ever heard. And
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: when I tell you, this scream went through Sean, right
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: through Sean, and right through me. And I turned around
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: and I looked at Sean and his eyes were big
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: as dinner plates. And he looked at me and he goes,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: dog man, I go dog man. And I said, all right,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: We turned around and I said, you put your headlamp
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: on flood. We got very powerful headlamps. You put yours
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: on flood. I'll put mine on the spot, and let's
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: see if we can see anything, because it sound like
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: this dog man was right on top of the hill
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: we just came down. If this dog man wanted to,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: he could have jumped off that hill and took both
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: of us down. Okay, we turned around. We don't see anything.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: I said. She's like, where to go? I said, maybe
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: you jump behind the wall. There's a stone wall there,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: maybe beside and behind the wall. Maybe he jumped onto
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: the side of the mountain that goes down along the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: lake and it's hiding in the little crevice. I don't know,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: but we both know. We both felt it and it
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: was right there. So we're four miles from the car,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I turned to Sean
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: and I was like, listen, this is what we're gonna
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: do tonight. We're gonna hide go out of here non stop.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: We're gonna do four miles non stop. We got sixty
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: pounds bags on our back. And normally I'm an old dude.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sixty two years old and I think, normally normal, normally, normally,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: I go two miles and I take a water break,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: and I take a ten minute break, and then I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: go another two miles and then I'm only like a
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: half mile from the car. Right, So tonight I said,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: I said, tonight, we're gonna hike out of here, and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: we're not going to stop because I don't want this
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: thing to flank us, because if it flanks us, we're
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: going to have to fight our way out of here,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: you know. And Sean's like, if you can do it,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: cause you know, he's twenty years old. He doesn't have
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: a problem doing it. You know, he could run out
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: of there, you.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Know if he wanted to. Yeah, man, like we used
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: to be able to do. Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: So we're hiking out now, and he says to me,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: and he's very sensitive, like psychic sensitive, and he says
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: to me, he goes, you know, the dog man's following us, right,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: And I go, yeah, I know. I said, well, you
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: know what, as long as he stays behind us and
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: he doesn't get in front of us, I'm not worried,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: you know. And we and we go for about three
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: miles and all of a sudden, we don't feel him
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: anywhere behind us. Now we don't know if he's still
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: there or not, but we're not feeling his presence. As
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: we're walking about one hundred yards ahead of us, to
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: the right, in the middle of the woods, at something
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: that was between five minutes six feet tall, I'm seeing
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: yellow eye shine and I'm like, oh shit, he flanked us.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: So I stopped Sean. I said, tell me what you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: see over there, because I see ambery shine. I said, yeah,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: me too. So we pull out our machetes's pull out
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: your michete. We're gonna probably have to fight away out
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: of here. Hopefully it's just a deer. And as we
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: get closer to run away, well we're walking, we're walking,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: We're getting closer and closer, and this thing starts to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: come out on the trail and we still can't get
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: a good look at it because it's in the shrubs
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: and everything, you know. All we see his eye shine
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: and it comes out onto the mining road and it
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: stands in front of us, and it's the biggest buck
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: you ever seen in your life. And Sean says to me,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: is this normal for deers? I go Because he's from
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: the city, he doesn't know you know what I mean,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: And I said, Sean's normally their tails go up and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: they run one hundred miles an hour away from you.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: I said, I have heard of deer in my yard
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: every night. If I open the screen door, they all
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: run in different directions. I said, So he goes, what
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: the hell's going on? I said, I don't know. And
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: this deer, which this is what it's showing us to be,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: is a deer, right, it's looking at us, and it's
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: looking at us in our eyes, and we're looking at
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: it in its size. We're getting closer and closer. This
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: thing's not moving. And now I look at Sean and
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Sean looks at me, and we start laughing hysterical, and
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: we're laughing hysterical. He's like, what is this thing? It's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, it doesn't feel right.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have a natural animal energy. It's not an
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: e fing dear. I'm thinking it may be an alien.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: It may not there whatever call those. I've heard of
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: those before where they someone can stand up and they
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: look weird.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: So anyway, we're getting closer, we getting We're getting closer,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: and we're laughing hysterical. Now we forgot all about the dog.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Were following us because this thing is this thing is
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: looking at us like it wants to tell us something,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: like it's trying to send a message to us. Now,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: maybe it was trying to send the message telepathically, and
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: because we were laughing so hard, we weren't getting the message,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Because I'm thinking, is this
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: an alien putting a deer image in my head? You
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Are we getting up? Are we
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: getting abducted? You know what I mean? This is just
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: going through my head. I'm doing a time check and everything.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: And then it walks off acrosses the road and it
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: goes on the other side of the road and it stops,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: and as we start to walk by, it turns around,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: it comes back out. We are face to face with
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: this thing and it's looking at us, and I swear
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: to God, I felt like it wasn't going to start
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: talking to me any minute. So at some point we
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: just said hell with it. We put our machetes away,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: and we walked past it, and we get to the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: car and we call our psychic in Arkansas and we'd
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: tell her what just what happened, and she said it
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: wasn't a deer. It was an elemental from the woods,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: and it was there to make sure you had safe
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: passage because they knew the dog man was following you.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, but like, what is this
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: deer going to do to a dog man? A dog
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: man would have tore it up. She said, yeah, it
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: showed itself to you as a deer, but it could
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: have showed itself to you as a wind to go,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, could have showed itself to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: you as anything. So I was like okay, and my
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: cousin and I it was a weird night, and we
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: sat the car and we discussed a lot of shit
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: for like an hour before we left the woods, you know.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that was my the list experience with the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: dog men. And then when I got home that night,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: I was so afraid because the dog man had come.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: I felt like when he was screaming at me when
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: we first got there, it was screaming at me like
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: he knew I was back in the woods, okay. And
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, if you thought I'm at the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: big Foot side, I'm not nowhere near your house, you know.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: And then when he came out and it screamed at
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: us when we were on the Appalachian Trail. Again I
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: felt it was directed at me, like I told you
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: to stay out of my woods, you know. And again
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, yeah, but you're on the wrong side of
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: the woods, You're on the big Foot side. Go back
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: to your side, you know. That was like the thought
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: I had in my head, like go back to your
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: goddamn side of the woods, you know what I mean,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not bothered.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Do you think they are? You? You're run into these things?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: You ran into the den? What are these things? I mean?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: If you had to take an educated guess.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Would every psychic I've ever asked. I've been lucky enough
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: to get invited to symposiums, and I've been lucky enough
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: to be sat next to the world inow psychics, and
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: every psychic I've ever had a chance to pick their brain,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: I always ask them this question, what are these things? Now?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: The Native Americans up here, the Iroquois, say they walk
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: between worlds like the Sasquatch Okay, But they say the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Sasquatch or the Guardian of the woods. They don't really
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: have anything good to say about the dog man. So
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: I asked all these psychics. I'm not going to say
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: who they were, but the world are now psychics, you
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: guys know from TV. And they all tell me the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: same thing. They're interdimensional and that's what they are.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: And I don't you know, did they say the same
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: thing about the Sasquatch.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, okay, they say the same thing about the sex question.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: They're it's a dimensional. But you know, I don't know
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: what the dog means. Deal is where it has to
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: feel like it has to intimidate you, you know what I mean?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: Like it always comes off as Joe macho like, you know,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: it's got to intimidate. And if it doesn't intimidate you
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: do you you know you roll the dice? Are you
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: pissing it off? And and and setting it off so
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: it's gonna attack you? Are you standing your ground and
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: it's backing off? You know what I mean? I think
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: the night the female charged us, it's seen there with
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: three of us and we all had weapons, and I
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: think that was enough to stop her from coming over
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: to them. I'm sure she could have killed all three
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: of us if she wanted to, but I mean, she
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: probably would have got injured herself. Just get with a
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: machetes and survival knives, because.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: I could ask you a bit of practical advice, because
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: I asked because they now in this region where I
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: am here in the Yucatan, I've run across a posts
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: of people who've seen what he He found an aimage
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: and said, this is kind of like what I saw.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Now if they're starting to encroach in this area, Like,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: how do you what is your practical advice just to
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: how to protect yourself just to stay away from them
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: or be armed, or is there you know, not to
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: go look for them? What would you what would you
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: advise somebody who doesn't know like you do.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say I would say definitely don't go
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: to war with them. I would say give them their space,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: but definitely stand your ground. But I would also say
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: I would it seems that spiritual guidance helps, like if
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: he's white, prayers and stuff like that tend to help,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: tend to help with these particular creatures. Like I've heard
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: people start saying they're our fathers or little hail Mary's
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: when they're in the presence of these things, and these
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: things will leave them alone, you know what I mean.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never said an hail Mary and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: our father when I was in the presence of them.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: But they say that works, so that's something you could try,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: you know, spiritual protection. I would never turn my back
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: on one. I would never go looking for one. If
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: you do have to go to war with these things,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: make sure you have a big enough caliber bullet to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: take it down because they're very muscular in the chest
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: and their skulls are very very thick. So if you're
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: going to shoot it, shoot it in the throat, shooting
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: in the groin, be personally, I would take its knees
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: out first, you know, and this way you can run
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: towards you or jump, and then I would I would
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: shoot it in the in the soft tissue, the groin
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: or the throat for sure. Yeah, stay away from the head,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: on the chest or the thighs, because that's all muscle mass,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: you know. But you're gonna need a big enough gun
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: to do it, you know what I mean, take this
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: thing down?
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's they're sightings. Uh, there's one that's
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: about two and a half hours away from me, which
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about. But I've also had sightings that
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: are literally if I get in my car they're ten
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: minutes away, and it's between where I'm staying now in
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: my property. It's right in that drive. So that means
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: to me, what it means is that they they're probably
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: around because I have a ten acre piece of property
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: that is like a half mile off the road in
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: the middle of Nowhereville and here in the jungle. So
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's it's just just you know, just you know,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: somebody who's who's had experience as such as yourself. I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: just figure i'd ask. I don't think there's like a
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: textbook for these kind of things. I just want to know,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: you know, what your opinion was, and I appreciate it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean there there there are certain locations
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: on their body that you can shoot them to kill them,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: but it's a hard shot to get, you know what
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: I mean. And if this thing is running at you,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: I doubt very much you're gonna get that shot, you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they're probably very fast.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: But if they're if Dave, if Dave settled down in
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: your on your property, then you're screwed because you're not
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: gonna The only way they're gonna leave is when they're
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: ready to leave, and that's probably when food source runs out.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, You're not going to drive
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: these things away. They will go to war with you.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: They will go to war with the Sasquatch. They're not
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: a afraid of anybody. They're not afraid of anything, you know,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: But they don't kill.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Imagine I imagine the sasquatch and keep him in check.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I imagine the Sasquatch and keep them in check if
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: they needed to be. I don't see them pushing them out.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: It all depends on how big the sasquatches and how
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: many people are in his clan compared to the dog
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: man and the dog Man's pack, you know what I mean.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: They usually fight to like, uh, standoff, you know what
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: I mean. It's usually a push when they fight a
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: no one really actually wins.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Some they they both get beat up pretty bad and
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: then they say, let's, you know, save this fight for
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: let's walk away and fight another day.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, it's it's it's like I was telling
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: somebody the other day, friend of mine who lives up
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: in the ad A Rondecks, he invited me to go
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: up there and do some squatching and I was telling
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: him about he found a location like that in the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: middle of the woods that was destroyed, you know. And
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: he says, ah, it's funny you're talking about this, because man,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: I just came across the location like this, and you're right,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: there's a residue or an energy, a negative energy in
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: all of that destruction. And I said, yeah, there must
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: have been a battle between the pack and the Klan.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: And he said, you know, that thought never crossed my mind.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: I said, well, you should keep it on the tip
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: of your mind now when you go in there, because
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: now you know you're dealing with both, you know, not
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: just Suswitch, but Dougment are in the area too. But
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: like I said, there are certain spots in your body
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: that you can kill them there. It's an easy killed.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: It's just the shot is hard to get. But like
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: what I said, if you could take their length the
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: knees out, stop them from running towards you, and then
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: you can shoot them in a soft tissue. People have
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: killed them, you know what I mean. They're not impossible
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: to kill you. All people have killed them, and the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Americans have killed them. I know people down South who
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: went to war with them and have killed them, you
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Really, maybe you can get me in contact with some
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: of these people, but.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's not an easy task. Yeah, it's not
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: an easy task. And uh, like I said, when the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: thought came across my mind, do I go to war
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: with these? Like I said, I got big guns and asked,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: I got thirty thirties, I got thirty odd sixes, I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: got to twelve gage shotguns, you know what I mean.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: And I got plenty of firepower in my house. And
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, No, I'm not going
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: to go to war with them. I'm just going to
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: go to work and go to war to work. And
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I'll go there and I'll
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: have a discussion with them from a safe different distance,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: you know. And I did and it worked. But after
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: the other night, you know, the Halloween night, I was
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: afraid he was going to come back again, you know,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: probally was I was like, man, I hope this dude
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  Speaker 3: doesn't come back, you know, because I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: it would react. Now, you know, yeah, at this stage
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  Speaker 3: of the game, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So absolutely fascinating. I appreciate it so very much that
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  Speaker 1: you came on and talked to me. They took time
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  Speaker 1: out of your day and time away from your family
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  Speaker 1: to spread this information, because that's what we're trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: In the end. We're trying to figure out what this is,
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  Speaker 1: i'd imagine, and to make people safe somewhat, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: the outdoors are supposed to be an enjoyable thing, but
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  Speaker 1: then there's these these creatures out there that could possibly
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  Speaker 1: hurt you. And that's kind of like what I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to do there, because there is also you know,
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  Speaker 1: reports of you know, I've heard reports of you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know what they call autopsies where you know, forty
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  Speaker 1: percent of the body is missing. Well, that's not that's
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  Speaker 1: not a wild dog. That's you know, get a scratch
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  Speaker 1: marks I go from the midsection all the way across
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  Speaker 1: their chest and you're like, that's not normal. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just be safe out there, guys. You know, we're still
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure all this out and hopefully eventually some
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  Speaker 1: type of agency will give us some type more information
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  Speaker 1: because uh, I definitely know that they know something that
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  Speaker 1: they're not telling us. But whatever that is, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: But who knows, you know, And.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny too the night the night we went out
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  Speaker 3: up to the Sacred Site. As we were climbing the
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  Speaker 3: mountain to get up to the high plateau, I had
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  Speaker 3: the thought came to my mind, I wonder if the
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  Speaker 3: dog men are still in that den because it because
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  Speaker 3: it's spent so many years now, is it an old
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  Speaker 3: den that they don't use anymore? Did they move on
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  Speaker 3: or what? And I just had that thought, like as
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  Speaker 3: we were going up that mountain, and then as soon
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  Speaker 3: as we got to the top and we tracked our bags,
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  Speaker 3: the dog man went off, no one right here. He
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  Speaker 3: heard my thought and it was like he was answering me, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but it was good. But I haven't thought about that
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  Speaker 3: in such a long time. But I had that thought,
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  Speaker 3: and then that experience happened.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's it's it's it's extremely fascinating and
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  Speaker 1: it's just like it's like, you know, us as humans,
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  Speaker 1: we want we want to know what's going on, and
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  Speaker 1: we're running across these large interdimensional beings in the forest,
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  Speaker 1: like what the hell is that? It doesn't it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: fit within this material three D or four D reality
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  Speaker 1: that we're accustomed to. And uh, I appreciate so very
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  Speaker 1: much that you came on today. Could you please tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody one more time where they can find you or
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to have a conference or
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: you're going to be speaking at where they could find
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  Speaker 1: you to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I haven't been in I haven't been invited
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  Speaker 3: to anything recently. I have been in contact with the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Discovery Channel. They seen one of my UFL videos that
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: I put up recently that I caught off my front
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: deck and they want to use it for the Paranormal
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  Speaker 3: Caught ont on camera. So they reached out to me
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: for that, and I told them, Yeah, when you're ready,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: when you're ready to use it, give me a call them.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: We'll discuss. You know how much is gonna cost you?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Deep down inside? You still the business man? I got you, man.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the people are we got Pam a happy
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: birthday again, Pam. She just said, this is my wonderful moderator. Pam.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: She's saying, please come back again. Next time. You can
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: come back and we can discuss it. If you have UFOs,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: we can get into you.
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  Speaker 3: I'll send you. I'll send you those videos. I caught
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: amazing videos and I started catching them the night before
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: we went out to do the Sasquatch thing because the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: first night all my good gear was packed in my
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: car to how to use my phone to record it with.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: But that's another story for another day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So Bronchfield Paranormal Society is the easiest place to
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  Speaker 3: find me or Facebook, you could just reach out to me.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, you could reach out to
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  Speaker 3: me a messenger. I had someone reach out to me
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  Speaker 3: recently from uh down South. They want to go out there.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: They're big foot is, but they want to go out
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: dog man looking and they want they need they want
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: to know what they need to know before they go
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: in the woods. So they wanted they reached out to
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: me and they asked me if I would talk to
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: them for a while, And I said, yeah, you know,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: I'll talk to you before you go out there. Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's uh, this is it's quite fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: And you've been doing this for how long? A mo
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: more time?
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing this my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: I feel your whole life.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm My very first ghost was my
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  Speaker 3: grandmother when I was five, you know what I mean?
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: So she came to me after she passed, and it's
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: just been like that my whole life, you know. So
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: my first UFO siding at ten, my first big foot
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: sighting at twelve, and you know, everything in between, we've
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: we've run into We've run into windskin walkers and wind
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: to goes and rakes and aliens, aliens. We ran into
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: something the less that we were out there that the
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: psychic called the bear Squatch. I got a video of
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: the walll it ran, it ran through. I'll send that
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  Speaker 3: to you too.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Just crazy, just so much crazy stuff.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, I mean now you got me like
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: salivating for more because you're you're really you're really good
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: at what you do, man, and uh, you're you're genuine,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: You're kind to come one, and I really appreciate it, man,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: And thanks for coming on the I of Jupiter, and
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the rest of a weekend. And
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: let's keep in touch, buddy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what, Tomorrow I'll promote the crap out
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  Speaker 3: of it. I'm sorry I didn't get around to it.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: I was really busy around the house. Tomorrow, I promise
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: you I will promote the.
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  Speaker 1: Crap out of it all right, man, all right, all right,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: have yourself a wonderful leaving and enjoy your family, all right.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Chow chow al for Santa Riga. That was Uh that
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  Speaker 1: was that was a lot, dude. I mean I got
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  Speaker 1: to hear about I I a wind to go. I
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: haven't had a wind to go on the channel yet.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: I will be having texts on. Let me go through
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: my schedule a little bit, guys, real quick, so you
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: guys can see what's coming up. Uh wait, this is
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: the dog Man photo. The reason I don't pop the
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: photos up yet, guys, is because I am I have
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  Speaker 1: a slow computer. I actually figured I found why I
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: was slower than it usually is is because I had
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: I was doing so much video editing that it saves
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: it on my hard drive and I was able to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of Like, oh, this sounds like one hundred
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: and thirty gigs worth of work. So let me go
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: and check my calendar. He real quick to give you
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: a quick update on who's coming on. Uh so we
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: had alf alf Santa Riga tonight. Next week we're having
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: on the monstrous podcasts that will be at the regular time, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll double check that again. I'm pretty sure
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: it is. It's at six forty five Eastern time. Then
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: after that, I'm having Darren Franks on again and he's
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: going to go through I hope. You know, he's you know,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: he's kind of tiptoeing around, but he offered me to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite It's an incredible story and you guys should
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  Speaker 1: definitely hear it. Twenty fifth, I got moved Texas Front
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• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: and on the twenty fifth he was on here. Tonight,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I will be having on Chris Kramer from the Arizona Four,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: and I also before that, I'll be releasing episode with
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  Speaker 1: his friend who is also part of the Arizona Four.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm also having on just make sure I get
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  Speaker 1: through all the ones I have, and I am having
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  Speaker 1: on Friday to night. Thank you very much, Magical. I
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: am having on fire Lotus the Witch, and we're going
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• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: couldn't get to all your questions today, buddy, if you
• 1:36:10
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so so much for your so much for
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: your interaction and uh being part of the team. So
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: you know, if you guys have anybody who like to
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: watch watch the shows like this, like just what just
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: happened with him showing up to his house and being
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: underneath his porch and then trying to take the door
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  Speaker 1: frame out or the door out of the frame. Oh,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: thank you so much, Al, I appreciate it very much,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, this is uh, it's been a lot of fun.
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