Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Women Around the World: Sonia Guajajara
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
- 0:07Speaker 1: I've never told you production of I Heart Radio. All right,
- 0:18Speaker 1: and you have a question for you. Okay, when I
- 0:21Speaker 1: say Amazon rainforest, what's the first thing you think? Uh, snakes? Snakes?
- 0:29Speaker 1: Really yeah, like big snakes. That is not what I saw.
- 0:33Speaker 1: But okay, what why snakes? I don't know. I guess
- 0:36Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of horror movies. There's a lot
- 0:38Speaker 1: of snakes in the Amazon. I feel like there's there's
- 0:41Speaker 1: a computer game that I really liked where you were
- 0:45Speaker 1: in the Amazon you learned about like it was an
- 0:47Speaker 1: educational game where you learned about like the canopy and
- 0:50Speaker 1: the creatures in there. So I am seeing that, but
- 0:55Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the game, so it's
- 0:57Speaker 1: like really useless. But like I see this beautiful, beautiful
- 1:00Speaker 1: rainforest scene and then a snake. Well, yes, I do
- 1:05Speaker 1: see creatures when I think of it as well. And
- 1:06Speaker 1: I also think of the fact that there's so many
- 1:09Speaker 1: vast amounts of things within the Amazon that we don't
- 1:13Speaker 1: quite know about. We know a lot of specialists go
- 1:15Speaker 1: in there. We know like people come in to study things.
- 1:17Speaker 1: We also know that it's a big deal about the
- 1:20Speaker 1: fact that people are trying to ruin it by taking apart,
- 1:24Speaker 1: taking all the resources and pretty much depleting the land,
- 1:27Speaker 1: as well as taking land away from those who have
- 1:29Speaker 1: been there for all of their lives, generations and generations.
- 1:33Speaker 1: That's what I think of. Of course, I also think
- 1:35Speaker 1: of Fernal a little bit, even though Fungal is an
- 1:39Speaker 1: imaginary place, right, I believe so. I recently rewatched for doing.
- 1:44Speaker 1: As I said on this very podcast, it does not
- 1:47Speaker 1: hold up. Although Tim Curry singing is great, if it
- 1:50Speaker 1: takes place in the Amazon, then it is. And this
- 1:52Speaker 1: is what surprised now in a very americanized version because
- 1:54Speaker 1: like the main character, Zack is like clearly a surfer
- 1:57Speaker 1: nineties surfer guy, right right, uh, of course, of course,
- 2:02Speaker 1: which I guess he could be working into Amazon. It
- 2:04Speaker 1: just doesn't seem too likely to me, but I guess
- 2:08Speaker 1: he could. I guess to me the corporations are probably
- 2:11Speaker 1: American exactly. You're right, Maybe I read it all, maybe
- 2:15Speaker 1: I read well. We are talking a little bit about
- 2:20Speaker 1: the Amazon rainforest and the Amazon's because we're actually going
- 2:23Speaker 1: to talk about an activist who has been a big
- 2:26Speaker 1: part of trying to fight for the lands as well
- 2:30Speaker 1: as for the people's uh And we're gonna started off
- 2:32Speaker 1: with a bang July because it is July one, just
- 2:35Speaker 1: in case people wanted to know. And we are talking
- 2:37Speaker 1: about the fierce fighter and environmental activists who was born
- 2:40Speaker 1: in the arab Boya indigenous land in Marino, a village
- 2:43Speaker 1: in the Amazon Forest. So Saunia is a well known
- 2:47Speaker 1: activist within the environmental world. So if you're aware of
- 2:51Speaker 1: any of that, you could probably already know her name.
- 2:54Speaker 1: And she's been a fierce advocate in fighting for the
- 2:56Speaker 1: preservation of the Amazon rainforest in the lands around it,
- 3:00Speaker 1: well as fighting for the right and respect of the
- 3:01Speaker 1: indigenous communities in Brazil, including fighting to ensure that the
- 3:05Speaker 1: uncontacted peoples in the Amazons are left alone and are
- 3:10Speaker 1: able to continue their way of life. And she has
- 3:12Speaker 1: been awarded and recognized for her work quote internationally in
- 3:16Speaker 1: defense of the Amazon Forest ecosystems, by diversity and indigenous populations.
- 3:21Speaker 1: The Guage genre people are one of the larger groups
- 3:23Speaker 1: of the indigenous people, with about twenty five thousand present
- 3:26Speaker 1: and eleven indigenous lands, and probably because of this, Sonia
- 3:30Speaker 1: is one of the more targeted persons for her advocacy,
- 3:33Speaker 1: she has become a huge fighter against the government as
- 3:36Speaker 1: they continue to push development of these areas. Brazilian Ministry
- 3:40Speaker 1: of Institutional Security Office has tried to criminalize her work
- 3:44Speaker 1: by stating that she and her organization have committed crimes
- 3:47Speaker 1: by reporting environmental crimes that the government was responsible for. Right,
- 3:52Speaker 1: I think that's so telling. They're getting mad because they're
- 3:55Speaker 1: being told on essentially, so that like you're criminalizing our work.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Of course, this is the same conversation we had with
- 4:02Speaker 1: Representative dev Holland and while they were afraid to go
- 4:05Speaker 1: ahead and confirm her because she fights for the land
- 4:08Speaker 1: and for the communities instead of the industries and the
- 4:11Speaker 1: big corporations. And of course, when we know about politics,
- 4:14Speaker 1: they need that money and they're gonna get it the
- 4:16Speaker 1: way they want to. So definitely kind of in that
- 4:19Speaker 1: same lines. And by the way, Sonia was involved in
- 4:22Speaker 1: politics as well. Get into that more UH in a bit,
- 4:25Speaker 1: But speaking of her organization, UH. Sonia is the leader
- 4:28Speaker 1: and coordinator of the a p I B or the
- 4:30Speaker 1: Articulation of the Indigenous Peoples of Brazil, which represents over
- 4:34Speaker 1: three hundred indigenous ethnic groups in Brazil. According to its
- 4:38Speaker 1: site A p I B is a reference of Brazil's
- 4:40Speaker 1: Indigenous movement that was born with the purpose of strengthening
- 4:44Speaker 1: the indigenous people's unity and the articulation among the different
- 4:47Speaker 1: regions and indigenous organizations in the country, unify the indigenous people,
- 4:51Speaker 1: struggle the list of claims and demands in the Indigenous
- 4:54Speaker 1: movement politics, and mobilize the indigenous peoples and organizations of
- 4:58Speaker 1: the country against the as an attacks to the Indigenous
- 5:02Speaker 1: rights and their mission statement is Indigenous Rights promotion and defense,
- 5:06Speaker 1: parting from the Indigenous organizations and people's articulation and unity
- 5:10Speaker 1: from the most distinct regions of the country. Guasa Gara
- 5:14Speaker 1: is someone who has been considered herself an activist since
- 5:17Speaker 1: her beginning. She said, I was born an activist. I
- 5:20Speaker 1: spent my whole life fighting against anonymity, against indigenous people's invisibility.
- 5:24Speaker 1: I always wanted to find a path, a way to
- 5:26Speaker 1: bring the history and a way of life of the
- 5:29Speaker 1: Indigenous people to light for society as a whole. Um
- 5:33Speaker 1: and getting her Masters in Culture and Society from the
- 5:35Speaker 1: Institute of Humanities from the Federal University of Bahia and
- 5:38Speaker 1: degrees in nursing and a graduate from special education from
- 5:42Speaker 1: the Marienno State University. It's not hard to see that
- 5:46Speaker 1: she has a desire for helping and fighting for the
- 5:49Speaker 1: rights of others, and she's not afraid to speak out.
- 5:52Speaker 1: As lands spews over. The force of the Amazon continues,
- 5:55Speaker 1: Guajajahara has been a fierce advocate in protecting the lands
- 5:59Speaker 1: against far a destruction through mining and development of power planets.
- 6:03Speaker 1: She stated, quote, the Amazon is one of the most
- 6:05Speaker 1: important force in the world and the indigenous people who
- 6:08Speaker 1: live in it have raised important issues in the public sphere,
- 6:12Speaker 1: such as the protection of the immense biodiversity, the protection
- 6:15Speaker 1: of the isolated people who live there, and the importance
- 6:17Speaker 1: of maintaining the forest standing for the climactic balance of
- 6:20Speaker 1: the planet. And she continues on saying, the indigenous peoples
- 6:23Speaker 1: of Brazil are not only in the Amazons, They're all
- 6:26Speaker 1: over the Brazilian territory and other important biomes that are
- 6:30Speaker 1: also being deforested, burned, and degraded by agrab business and
- 6:33Speaker 1: mining companies. The key issue of Brazilian indigenous peoples to
- 6:37Speaker 1: the world is that large corporations would stop investing in
- 6:40Speaker 1: companies that bet on a development model that presupposes our
- 6:44Speaker 1: death and the destruction of our territories. Her work has
- 6:47Speaker 1: made her a public figure within the movement, including working
- 6:50Speaker 1: with R and B singer Oisia Keys to send a
- 6:53Speaker 1: message about the need for protecting the Amazon rainforest. But
- 6:56Speaker 1: she's also a political figurehead in Brazil. Like we mentioned earlier,
- 6:59Speaker 1: she was on the ticket in as a vice president
- 7:02Speaker 1: with the Labor Leader candidate, which made her the first
- 7:04Speaker 1: Indigenous person to run for a federal executive office in Brazil,
- 7:09Speaker 1: and as the pandemic has hit the country hard, it's
- 7:11Speaker 1: no surprise that she has been a giant voice in
- 7:14Speaker 1: advocating for the health and lives of the indigenous community
- 7:17Speaker 1: in Brazil. It was noted that the mortality rate for
- 7:20Speaker 1: those indigenous communities was one hundred and fifty percent higher
- 7:24Speaker 1: than that of the other communities, which showed how much
- 7:27Speaker 1: more this community was at risk in comparison to the
- 7:30Speaker 1: rest of Brazil. There were many factors to this, including
- 7:34Speaker 1: the social and economic conditions, as well as the fact
- 7:37Speaker 1: that they had difficulty getting access to healthcare, which is
- 7:39Speaker 1: a common issue all across the world for indigenous communities.
- 7:44Speaker 1: The a p I b under Guaja published a documentary
- 7:47Speaker 1: series called Morocca Indigenous Emergency, which accused the Brazilian government
- 7:52Speaker 1: of neglect and not protecting the indigenous community, going as
- 7:56Speaker 1: severe as calling it a government genocide, which was altered
- 8:00Speaker 1: in the Brazilian government then subpoena ng Guasa to question
- 8:05Speaker 1: and interrogate her for this content, but she did not
- 8:09Speaker 1: back down. She said in a tweet, the persecution by
- 8:12Speaker 1: this government is unacceptable and absurd. They will not shut
- 8:16Speaker 1: us up. Right when Guashara was under question investigation, the
- 8:19Speaker 1: a p i B stated in support quote and yet
- 8:22Speaker 1: another act of political persecution and an authoritarianism. President Bolson
- 8:26Speaker 1: NAO's government is trying to criminalize the indigenous movement and
- 8:30Speaker 1: its leaders. And there are many others who continue to
- 8:32Speaker 1: support her as she fights for equity for her community
- 8:34Speaker 1: and for her people. And just recently, actually the Brazilian
- 8:37Speaker 1: courts suspended this investigation, and one person said that the
- 8:40Speaker 1: court document stated the investigation was a quote clear attempt
- 8:44Speaker 1: to suppress the work being done by a p i B.
- 8:47Speaker 1: So there was definitely a lot going on, and it's
- 8:49Speaker 1: not the first time they try to use criminal charges
- 8:51Speaker 1: against her for speaking out against the president or the
- 8:54Speaker 1: government in general. And it's no surprise that she is
- 8:57Speaker 1: a woman who has been honored and continue news to
- 9:00Speaker 1: be honored. Some of the awards and accolades she has
- 9:02Speaker 1: collected over the years include Medal of Honor of the
- 9:05Speaker 1: Government of the State of Marino in the eighteenth of January,
- 9:09Speaker 1: Medal by the Center of the Promotion of Citizenship and
- 9:12Speaker 1: Human Rights Defenders Fred Packet Award, and her organization recently
- 9:16Speaker 1: was awarded for the liter earlier Moffett Human Rights Award
- 9:19Speaker 1: for standing up the corporations and oppressive government. There's so
- 9:23Speaker 1: many more, and she and her organization continue to be
- 9:26Speaker 1: recognized and continue to fight no matter the barriers, and
- 9:29Speaker 1: obviously are not afraid to stand up to any type
- 9:33Speaker 1: of oppression and are not willing to back down to
- 9:35Speaker 1: try to bring equality again, an equity to the indigenous community.
- 9:40Speaker 1: And yeah, we need to come back. And I think
- 9:42Speaker 1: any and I have talked about this before, how this
- 9:44Speaker 1: is impacted the indigenous community all around the world. It's
- 9:48Speaker 1: not just in Brazil, It's definitely in the US, it's
- 9:50Speaker 1: definitely in Mexico, it's definitely in Guatemala, in Canada where
- 9:54Speaker 1: they just cannot access the health care they needed. And honestly,
- 9:57Speaker 1: COVID just kind of brought it to light a little
- 10:00Speaker 1: more because of the amount of death and percentage of
- 10:02Speaker 1: death that went up. But it's been a thing and
- 10:05Speaker 1: it continues to be a thing after the fact. And
- 10:07Speaker 1: we saw that with vaccine access. We saw that with
- 10:10Speaker 1: any type of health care access, for any type of
- 10:13Speaker 1: elderly care. It continues to be an issue, um, and
- 10:16Speaker 1: we need to come back and address it because of
- 10:18Speaker 1: what we've seen, because that most oftentimes for the Indigenous community,
- 10:21Speaker 1: it's women who are coming out fighting hardcore to get access. Right. Yeah,
- 10:27Speaker 1: we definitely need to return to that topic and I'm
- 10:30Speaker 1: sure that we will in the meantime. Listeners, if you
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