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Lipstick, High Heels & Purse Only Clues as TV Star Jodi Huisentruit Vanishes · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How can a beautiful news
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  Speaker 1: anchor simply vanish into thin air? I mean you see
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  Speaker 1: them every day on the screen. How can they just disappear? Well,
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  Speaker 1: that seemingly is exactly what happened to a beautiful young
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  Speaker 1: anchor Jodie who's intrigue Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Skies
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  Speaker 1: But the tigrapher were in swater. I am Jody who
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  Speaker 1: was in Tried for You TVs News. Just hearing her
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  Speaker 1: voice seemingly makes this also real. Now you're hearing Jody's
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  Speaker 1: voice when she was a student reporter at Saint Cloud
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  Speaker 1: University for the campus TV station, University TV and she
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  Speaker 1: went on from there to become a rising star in
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  Speaker 1: the TV industry, really making her mark. The viewers were
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  Speaker 1: enthralled by her. They gravitated toward her, not just because
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  Speaker 1: of her good looks, not just because she was prepared
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  Speaker 1: and articulate, but she had a warmth about her that
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  Speaker 1: seemingly went out across the airwaves to everybody watching. Beloved
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  Speaker 1: in her market, until suddenly she just goes missing. Let
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  Speaker 1: me introduce to you an all star panel to help
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  Speaker 1: figure out where is Jody Houston Strude. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: the tip line nine seven zero four or five eight
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  Speaker 1: Jody jo d I nine seven zero four to five
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  Speaker 1: eight five six three four with me j Alberio, former Commander,
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  Speaker 1: Woodbury Police Department, Investigative Unit Manager, Woodbury Public Safety, former
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  Speaker 1: US Marine. You can find him right now at find
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  Speaker 1: Jody dot com. Doctor Jory Crasen, psychologist, Faculties Saint Leo University,
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  Speaker 1: consultant and author of Operation s O S with me.
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags. You can
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  Speaker 1: find her at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. And she's
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  Speaker 1: the most of today with doctor Wendy CASEBQ San Diego
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  Speaker 1: investigative journalist. You can also find her at Fine Jody
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  Speaker 1: dot com and she is the founder of the Fine
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  Speaker 1: Jody podcast. She's also a Caroline Low TV. Caroline Low
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  Speaker 1: joining us, But first to a very special guest joining us.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jody's sister, Joanne Nathy. Joanne, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. Well, thank you again for having me, Joanne.
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  Speaker 1: It's unfathomable to me how someone that is so present
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  Speaker 1: in the lives of her local TV community can just disappear.
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  Speaker 1: It's like someone just cut off the TV and she's
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  Speaker 1: gone and that's the end of it. It seems very
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  Speaker 1: very surreal. Yeah, we never, you know, anticipated anything like
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  Speaker 1: it's ever happening. We thought Jody would be safe in
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  Speaker 1: Mason City. It wasn't that big of a community, and
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  Speaker 1: she she took a lot of safety courses and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and she she was careful, she really was. She wanted
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  Speaker 1: to have a good reputation in the community, and um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we were just stunned. I mean when when it happened
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  Speaker 1: in ninety five. And of course it's been really hard
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  Speaker 1: on everybody, not just the family, it's friends. Um, she
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  Speaker 1: meant a lot to so many people do you remember
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  Speaker 1: when you first learned Jodie was missing. Yeah, I remember
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  Speaker 1: it very well. Well. We were on a bus trip
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  Speaker 1: up north, my mom and aunt just um oh, with
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  Speaker 1: a group of ladies, you know, and UM we were
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  Speaker 1: going to this casino because UM ninety five the casinos
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  Speaker 1: well they had started prior to ninety five. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be a fun day. And so
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  Speaker 1: we were up in Walker, Minnesota, and then they asked
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  Speaker 1: us to come to UM the room and we got
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  Speaker 1: there and that there was an emergency phone call. It
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  Speaker 1: was shortly after we arrived, and so we came in
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  Speaker 1: and they said made it's from Mason City. And right
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  Speaker 1: away my mom said, oh, no Jody. And we thought
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  Speaker 1: maybe she'd been in a car accident. That I thought,
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  Speaker 1: and she'll be okay, you know, she'll But then when
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  Speaker 1: m Halverson said, oh, she's missing, Joanne, are you sitting down? Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I said missing, Well, we'll find her, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's some mistake. Why would she be missing, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But then we got pretty nervous and about it all,
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  Speaker 1: of course, and we left. They provided a vehicle for
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  Speaker 1: us to go back to Long Purry. They brought us.
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  Speaker 1: It was quite a drive too, but yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: very hard. And then we got back and nobody had
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  Speaker 1: found her, you know, by the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: and so then we were getting very worried. But we
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  Speaker 1: thought it'd be that it was some kind of a mistake,
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  Speaker 1: that she would be found and she'd be okay. That
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  Speaker 1: their original thought, you know, to doctor Jerry Cross in
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  Speaker 1: psychologist Faculties, Saint Leo University joining Us, Doctor Jry, I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm projecting right now, but I've also seen it
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  Speaker 1: with many, many other crime victims. When I first was
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  Speaker 1: told my fiancee was dead, at first, I thought there
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  Speaker 1: was some kind of a mix up and if I
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  Speaker 1: could just get to him, I could fix it, and
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  Speaker 1: I could get him to the hospital and everything will
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  Speaker 1: be okay. I thought there'd been a car crash, just
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  Speaker 1: like what Joe and Nathey is saying about Jody Houston's
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  Speaker 1: truth and I know you hear her saying, well, we
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  Speaker 1: thought it was a car accident. Then we thought, missing, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's just some mix up. We're gonna fix this. Why
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  Speaker 1: does our mind where do our minds go to something
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  Speaker 1: that we can comprehend, Like I couldn't comprehend that Keith
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  Speaker 1: had been shot five times in the face and the
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  Speaker 1: neck and the head and the back. That was hard
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  Speaker 1: for me. That would never have occurred to me. Then
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  Speaker 1: that could have happened, just like with Joeann Nathan, Jodie's
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  Speaker 1: sister Shemily thought, Oh, there's been a car crash missing.
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  Speaker 1: What this is wrong? We're gonna We're gonna get this
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  Speaker 1: all straightened out. Why is that? What is that? It
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  Speaker 1: starts off as like a protective mechanism for ourselves, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to try to make some positive sense out of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the term we use as closure, uh, And
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  Speaker 1: it's not like closing up the you know, the event,
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  Speaker 1: but it's trying to make sense out of ambiguity. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, you think, well, maybe it was a car accident.
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  Speaker 1: They're okay, they're going to be found. You continue to
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  Speaker 1: put the positive perspective on it and it helps kind
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  Speaker 1: of keep you stabilized so as you take in more information,
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  Speaker 1: you can you know, better sess it and apply it
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  Speaker 1: to the situation. Is there some sort of a defense mechanism, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I call it more of a protective mechanism, you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to keep you know, that stress level down so
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  Speaker 1: you can keep a rational cognitive process going on with
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  Speaker 1: the information that you're taking in. Some people they react,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just where they totally break down and you
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  Speaker 1: know they're not able to do anything. Guys, take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friend Ross Curis k STP TV. Sounded
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  Speaker 1: like I had just woken her up. Amy Kohon's called
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  Speaker 1: Jody's apartment at four am the morning Jody disappeared. I
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  Speaker 1: wondered if anything was going on, like maybe somebody was
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  Speaker 1: in her apartment, you know. I listened for other voices.
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  Speaker 1: Jody had said she had overslept and would be right
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  Speaker 1: in at four twenty that morning. Tenants here screams in
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  Speaker 1: the parking lot. Jody has never heard from again. I
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  Speaker 1: honestly feel like I listened to every tiny little detail
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  Speaker 1: and nothing sounded out of the ordinary. Police found Jody's keys, shoes,
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  Speaker 1: and earrings scattered next to her sports car, their only
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  Speaker 1: physical evidence. Time Stories with Nancy Grace joining me right now.
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  Speaker 1: Caroline Low investigative journalists. You can find her at find
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  Speaker 1: Jodie dot com and she's even founded a podcast called
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  Speaker 1: Find Jodi Podcast. You can find her also at Caroline
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  Speaker 1: Low TV. Caroline, thank you for being with us. You've
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  Speaker 1: been on the case for some time. Let's start at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. What do we know of the last time
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  Speaker 1: that Jody was seen alive? No way, No, let's start
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  Speaker 1: with the scene. Let's start with her place where she was.
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  Speaker 1: What do we know. What we know is it appears
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  Speaker 1: that whatever happened to Jody happened in the parking lot
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  Speaker 1: right adjacent to her building. It looks like they're about
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  Speaker 1: twelve steps from Jody's building to her car. That she
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  Speaker 1: was most likely ambushed attack from behind. Okay, right, are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about her building where she lived or her
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  Speaker 1: building where she worpped retired from where she was running late?
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  Speaker 1: As we heard Amy Coon's, her producer say, she was
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  Speaker 1: running late and so she's rushing to her car. She's
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  Speaker 1: carrying her things she needs to get ready her work.
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  Speaker 1: Most likely her hair was wet being so late, and
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  Speaker 1: she had a blow dryer with her. Somebody attacked her
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  Speaker 1: from behind, and from all signs that we can tell,
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  Speaker 1: there were signs of a struggle. She was dragged easterly
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  Speaker 1: according to the police. You know what, I got to
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  Speaker 1: break everything down that you're saying, not in a bad way,
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  Speaker 1: Caroline Alow, in a good way, but I'm drinking from
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  Speaker 1: the fire hydrant right now. Too much, too fast. That's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of information. And Caroline Alow, you're one of
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  Speaker 1: the experts in this case, along with Jay Alberio and
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  Speaker 1: Joe and Nathy, so the rest of us are playing
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  Speaker 1: catch up with you. So pardon me, please, but you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to endure what I put every cop,
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  Speaker 1: every sheriff, every medical examiner, every investigator through. I got
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  Speaker 1: to go through it one fact at a time and
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  Speaker 1: digest it and trying to make sense of it. Guys
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  Speaker 1: were walking about a beautiful TV anchor that goes missing,
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  Speaker 1: Jody Houston Trout. Take a listen to our friend Jim Axelrod,
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  Speaker 1: the anchor of KIMT six am newscast. She usually arrived
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  Speaker 1: at work by three thirty in the morning. If she's
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  Speaker 1: not there between three and foguer calls a hair are
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  Speaker 1: you awake? Producer Amy Coons noticed nothing unusual, and she
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  Speaker 1: called and whooped Jody up about ten after four that morning.
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  Speaker 1: She was asking about the show. She was concerned about
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  Speaker 1: the show, and she said, I'll be right there, But
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  Speaker 1: in five thirty, still no Jody. And this being a
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  Speaker 1: time before cell phones, Amy tried her at home again
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  Speaker 1: and got her answering machine. At six am, Amy had
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  Speaker 1: a step up and delivered the news in Jody's place.
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  Speaker 1: She loves her show. She calls it her show. You
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  Speaker 1: know she wouldn't miss it for anything. The police were
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  Speaker 1: called shortly after seven. When they arrived at Jody's apartment.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't but they found her shoes, hair dryer and
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  Speaker 1: keys scattered on the ground near her beloved red Mazdamiana.
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  Speaker 1: You are hearing our friend Jim Axelrod at fine Jody
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  Speaker 1: CBS forty eight hours the search on for Jody Houston. True.
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  Speaker 1: Let me go back to Caroline Love investigative journalists. Caroline,
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  Speaker 1: let's start again at the beginning. Now you're telling me
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  Speaker 1: she was leaving. You believe she was leaving her apartment
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  Speaker 1: building that morning. She was running a little light for work.
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  Speaker 1: Her hair was still wet because she had a hair
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  Speaker 1: dryer with you with her. I assume that was standing
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  Speaker 1: in the parking lot. You're telling me she was only
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  Speaker 1: twelve feet out from her apartment or twelve feet from
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  Speaker 1: her vehicle, And how would you know she was dragged behind?
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  Speaker 1: That information came years ago from police. Police investigators she
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  Speaker 1: was dragged easterly. They saw marks in the silt, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, and they believe that that's what happened. That
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  Speaker 1: she was easterly most toward Kentucky Avenue, which is the
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  Speaker 1: main road going by the Key apartment. Scutility lived with me.
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  Speaker 1: Former commander twenty seven years Woodbury Police Department, Jay Alberio. Jay,
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  Speaker 1: tell me what you know of the morning Jody goes missing.
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  Speaker 1: An examination of the photos that the media had, the
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  Speaker 1: information that the Mason City Police had put out there
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  Speaker 1: in the past. So based on all that, my interpretation
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  Speaker 1: and from the facts is that Jody was at her
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  Speaker 1: car and it appears that she was attempting to put
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  Speaker 1: the key in the door lock to open the door
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  Speaker 1: to her car when she was grabbed, more likely from behind,
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  Speaker 1: because there's indications or the key that she had was bent,
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  Speaker 1: which tells me that she had the key in the
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  Speaker 1: doorlock when she was grabbed. So the force of somebody
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  Speaker 1: grabbing her pushed her towards the front of the car
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  Speaker 1: possibly and bent the key, and also the driver's side mirror.
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  Speaker 1: The door was also bent forward, and again that indicates
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  Speaker 1: there's a struggle taking place and the perpetrator has grabbed
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  Speaker 1: her and has taken her towards the front of a car,
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  Speaker 1: away from her apartment building. You know, and the examination,
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  Speaker 1: we've been down there, We've driven through the parking lot
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  Speaker 1: and looked at the scene. Because the scene will tell
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  Speaker 1: you volumes of what happened, and it's a very tight
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  Speaker 1: parking lot. It's really interesting to Wendy Patrick, prosecutor, author
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  Speaker 1: of read Flags at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: I never was so arrogant as to try a case
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  Speaker 1: in front of jury without having gone to the same
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  Speaker 1: In fact, very typically obsessively gone to the scene many,
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  Speaker 1: many times, often on my off time, looking at it,
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  Speaker 1: trying to make sense, reenacting in my mind what happened,
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  Speaker 1: who could see what or not see? And in court, Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: it made all the difference because I've had many defense
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  Speaker 1: witnesses take the stand under oath and state what they
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  Speaker 1: saw or didn't see, and into my knowledge of this
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  Speaker 1: scene makes it very easy to say something like, well,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, isn't there a big tree a hedge
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  Speaker 1: around the building, So you're saying you could see through
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  Speaker 1: the hedge what happened at the front door. Is that
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  Speaker 1: what you're telling me you have to know the scene,
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  Speaker 1: and we're just hearing that from Jay Alberian. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's huge, And I usually go as soon as possible
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  Speaker 1: when after the prime was committed, because especially in a
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  Speaker 1: case like this where you have an incident in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: you want to know when exactly the sun came up,
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  Speaker 1: when people would be out walking your dogs, when you'd
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  Speaker 1: see the joggers, when you would be able to have
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  Speaker 1: seen the evidence left behind. You know, we all know
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  Speaker 1: the first few hours after a kidnapping or an abduction
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  Speaker 1: are the most critical, the most crucial, because that's when
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  Speaker 1: the bad guy or whoever abducted the victim is able
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  Speaker 1: to make the escape. So yes, and you're also right,
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  Speaker 1: it gives you enhanced credibility in front of not just
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  Speaker 1: the jury but also the judge to where you are
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  Speaker 1: the one in the court room that has done your homework.
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  Speaker 1: You've been there and you're in the best position to
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  Speaker 1: be asking these questions. It also helps you catch liars.
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  Speaker 1: But in this case, we're hearing Jay Alberio and Caroline
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  Speaker 1: Lowe describe what happened, and the scenario is really important. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what have I learned? I've learned that she was most
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  Speaker 1: likely attacked from behind. What does that mean either somebody
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  Speaker 1: she didn't know, somebody that felt they had to sneak
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  Speaker 1: up on her, in the sense that maybe it was
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  Speaker 1: someone she did know, but they had bad dealings so
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  Speaker 1: they had to sneak up on her. It tells me
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  Speaker 1: that she fought tooth and nail, that she had almost
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  Speaker 1: made it to her car. Because we're here Alberio describing
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  Speaker 1: how the key to the car was bent suggest she
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  Speaker 1: had gotten in and it was pulled away. Was such
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  Speaker 1: a force it bent the key. Now we are hypothesizing
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  Speaker 1: what happened, but there's a lot of evidence to prove that.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to reporterly with ABC six k L
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  Speaker 1: what happened to Jody. Outside of Jody's apartment, investigators found
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  Speaker 1: evidence of a struggle, her personal items scattered in the
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  Speaker 1: parking lot, jewelry, shoes and a bag near her red convertible,
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  Speaker 1: and perhaps one of the most important pieces of evidence,
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  Speaker 1: a broken key. As Jody's morning producer morning assistant producer
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  Speaker 1: I was the last one to speak with her before
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  Speaker 1: she disappeared. Ammy Coons was working that morning Jody disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: She tells police. Jody was often late for work, and
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  Speaker 1: that morning she called Jody and says Jody answered and
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  Speaker 1: told her she was on her way in. We still
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  Speaker 1: have our jobs to do and we just got to
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  Speaker 1: get the show in the year. Coons went on to
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  Speaker 1: anchor that morning in Jody's place. It wasn't until hours
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  Speaker 1: later that a phone call was made by the station
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  Speaker 1: to police that Jody never arrived to work. Oh man, man,
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  Speaker 1: that is critical to Joan Nathy, this is Jody's sister.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't call for how many hours? Those are critical
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  Speaker 1: hours in finding Jody. Yes, that's true. Um, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: they just well, maybe she, you know, overslept and she
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  Speaker 1: would be in. Um, that's what I've understood it. But
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  Speaker 1: it was critical time period. It's too bad that they
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  Speaker 1: didn't call, but you know, it happened. It happen. Happened
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  Speaker 1: the cowards. We're deal and we're working with what we've got. Certainly,
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  Speaker 1: certainly Amy Coons never thought that Jody was being accepted,
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  Speaker 1: of course, just thought she had overslept, you know, And
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  Speaker 1: there's something I don't know. It's very confusing on that part.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Caroline Low. We lost a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time with them not calling police. But isn't
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  Speaker 1: it correct that, you know, I heard another coworker say
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  Speaker 1: that Jenny was never late to work, so I've got
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  Speaker 1: to conflicting report on that. Well. Is that significant? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: because if she was never late to work as she
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  Speaker 1: was late this morning, that is what we call quote
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  Speaker 1: routine evidence evidence of habit or routine. It's very hard
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  Speaker 1: to break, you know, when you're in the TV business.
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  Speaker 1: You can't be one minute late or there'll be an
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  Speaker 1: empty chair sitting there you need. If you're fifteen minutes early,
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  Speaker 1: you're late. So I'm curious about that, and I'm also
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  Speaker 1: curious the co worker said Caroline that they called her
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  Speaker 1: and she was said, I'm on the way. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 1: We have no information otherwise, and that's what police have reported,
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  Speaker 1: so guessing that they've checked the records to verify that.
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  Speaker 1: But to back to Amy, Amy said that she was
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  Speaker 1: basically crashing to get the show on. She was officially
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  Speaker 1: just kind of angry at Jody that she'd overslept, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: she told me that just the other day one of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: her biggest fears was she would lose her job if
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: she didn't get that show producing on the air. Yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: she never imagined. Yeah, she's right about that, because people
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: would tune in and there'd be nothing there. So yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: she would probably have lost her job. Another question to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Caroline Lowe. Very often I would take clothes, she used, makeup,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: whatever jewelry that I was going to wear it that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: night with me in my hands and a bag and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a backpack folded up with me. So I'm assuming that
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: everything that was found in the parking lot. When we
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: hear here dry or shoes and all that, that doesn't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: mean they came off her feed. That means to me
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that's what she was going to wear onto the air.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Guys were talking about Jodie, who's in truth just twenty
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: seven years old. That goes missing seemingly into thin air.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So Caroline Loo, what can you tell me about all
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the items that were scattered in the parking lot. What
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: we know is there are a pair of red high heels,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: which would seem to suggest that Jody was likely wearing
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: something with red or all red that day. We don't
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: know exactly. As far as we know, what she was
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: wearing has never been found, or if there was hairsprayed,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: There is a blow dryer, their earrings, so the basics
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of what you would wear to go on the air.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: What's missing is a bag that she carried it in.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: We've never heard anything about whether that was located. Presumably
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Jody did not run to her car carrying all these
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: things in her arms doesn't make sense. So where is
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that bag? Where is the purse that she normally would
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: have had. We don't know. And we also know that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: she was in a hurry because she was running late,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: so she may have grab things and then they came
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: out of her hands. But I find that also odd.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Why would she have be carrying ear rings and other
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: things in her hands and trying to open up the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: card door. Guys, take a listen to our cut seven eight.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: This is Brian Master Evening anchor, KA I am t listen.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Jody wasn't there, and so an associo producer, Amy Kuhn's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: calls Jodie at her apartment. Jody sounded as though she
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: had just woke up and told Amy, Okay, I'm getting around,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be in. So then the time passes, it's now
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: four thirty, it's now five. Amy, I'm assuming always thought, well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Jody probably just fell back asleep. Jody not coming in
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: right on time wasn't necessarily unusual from talking to the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: people who worked in the morning, she wasn't always right
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: on time. Show starts at six o'clock without Jody, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: so it was just a few minutes after seven o'clock,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: right after she had gotten off the air, Amy Kuhn's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: calls Mason City Police for a welfare check. Mankay might
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: clarify something there, Yes, please make the Amy did not
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: make the phone call. Amy was still sitting on this
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: set at the seven o'clock when the show ended, a
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: co worker came in. She asked the coworker to call
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: police because she still had to do a morning update.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So a co worker called the police at seven thirteen.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: First officers arrived on the scene at seven sixteen. Interesting
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that basically, feel a little bit better about the timeline
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: because the whole day hasn't passed. Take a listen to
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: more of our friends at KIMT listen. Mason City Police
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: found JODI's car in the parking lot in the apartment
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: complex was maybe twenty ft twenty five feet from the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: front door. They did find her car in the parking lot,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and he or she had been found the bench. If
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you see that scattered a key vent in her fairly
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: new car, there's a palm print on the car. There's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a struggle. She's been abducted. She's probably still alive. There's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a three hour window in the qween the phone call
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: in the well sarag and that's a lot of time
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: for somebody to do something and get away. That is
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: conventional wisdom. If someone is killed in an induction, very
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: often the first three hours or the critical that's a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: critical window in which you have a chance to save
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the person. Straight out to doctor Jerry Cross in Psychologists Faculty,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Saint Leo University. You know, another wrinkle in this case
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: is that Jody husting Truth was in everybody's living rooms
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and bedrooms and dens and kitchens all across the viewing area.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: People thought that they knew her. Not only that, there
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there that, for instance,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I know this sounds crazy, doctor Jory, that think you're
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: sending them non verbal messages or that you are speaking
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to them in code in some way. Of course, these
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: people have mental issues, but they believe, for as to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: somebody young and beautiful like Jody's, Huston's true is actually
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in love with them. It's it happens quite often, doctor, Yes,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: it does with you know, celebrities or anybody that's in
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the public light. You know, I guess all the reporters
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that can kind of relate to that. But the one
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: thing is that you know, from the psychological perspective of
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: who did this, I mean, it seemed to be pretty
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: well planned out. And most people that you know either
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: have those kind of delusions, I mean they can still
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: plan it out well, but committing it to this degree
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: of almost perfections. You know, it was that time of day,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: early in the morning, they had to wait, she was late.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things that you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: what we don't have answers for. And I'm assuming to you,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Caroline Lowe, that there were no security cameras in the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: parking lot, no security cameras, and as far as we know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: no eyewitnesses. Oh man, of course you Jay Alberio. It
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: was so early in the morning that she was leaving. Correct,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: what time was it? Yes, from information, it was about
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: four thirty in the morning. Yeah, there's not a lot
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of people out and about at four thirty in the morning.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at Kimt. The search
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: for Jody was immediate. The response was overwhelming. I mean,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: she's in your living room every morning. In Mason City
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in the surrounding communities, people feel as though they know you,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and so everybody wanted to help. You had dogs, you
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: had psychics. You had so many people looking just to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: see if they could find clues to Joey and Nathan,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: this is Jodie's sister. Do you remember the use of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: psychics trying to find Jody. Oh? Yeah, we had telephone
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: calls and we were on a show with the psychics
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: too at the beginning. Could I clarify something that always
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: bugs me that I hear them says, like I heard
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: this morning again that she was late many times for work,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And I never had that impression. A few times she
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: was late for work. But Jody was very conscientious about
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: her job. I mean, she wanted perfection. I would not
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: say she was late many times. A few times she
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: was a little late. Probably she did jam packer days
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: way too much. She worked, stayed up late writing thank
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you notes, and you know, she just used every hour.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, And I was trying to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: clear that earlier. Joey and Nathy. Through my research and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: investigation of the case, I found other co workers that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: said she was never light or really late. She was
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: so conscientious. But no, she was late a few times.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: don't want the impression at least and no more important
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it factors into what happened that morning because she told
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the co worker I'm i'm a away here. I'm sure
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: she was very nervous at that point because she was
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: so conscientious. I'm sure. Take a listen to Brian Master Kimt.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Three neighbors apparently heard screams that morning, and none of
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: them are able to really give an indicator about what
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: those screams were about. As we started to hear more
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and more of what happened, You've got a sense that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: this is awful and I don't know how this is
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: going to turn out good crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You guys, we're talking about Jody, who's in truth, just
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, that goes missing seemingly into thin air.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: hosts Today with Doctor Wendy Casey BQ in San Diego, Wendy,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you know, a timeline can start with something thing seemingly innocuous.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: And I will refer to a really good example where
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: in the Nicole Brown Ron Goldman double murder, the neighbors
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: were first alerted by the dog. I believe the talk's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: name was Achidas, as they say, mournful or plaintive. Well,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: that really started the timeline of the night. And here
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the neighbors hearing these screams, Wendy, that's right. And you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people would have called the police
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: right away upon hearing those screams, And a timeline would
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: also include people that were up at six am. This
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: was a morning anchor. She was in the morning rooms
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of the breakfast tables across this small town, where more
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: people were likely to know her, to recognize her, to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: know her name. It also, when you talk about a timeline,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you would want to know if she had a stalker.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And I've prosecuted several men who have stalked news anchors specifically,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: but they were news anchors that were on when they
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: were awake. So that timeline would also sweep in everyone
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that would necessarily have seen her, have seen something, who
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: would have been up who knows who she is, because
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: they would have been awakened in a position to be
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: not only sharp many people the sharper in the morning,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: but also in a position to notice something out of
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the Ordinary'd like those screams that, as you point out,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: really starts that timeline. Yeah, I mean if you hear
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a scream at four thirty five o'clock in the morning,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and there's a big difference hearing the neighbor calling the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: dog and a woman screaming. I'm very surprised no one
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: called police. But you know what, again, that's what we're
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: working with. They did not take a Listen. Now to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: ross Curious at k STPTV, Jody's closest friends in Mason
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: City are for the first time talking about their suspicions
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: because it could possibly be someone that we know with
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: all the times I've talked to detectives, they feel that
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: someone stopped her, watched her, know what her schedule was,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and was definitely going to plan on I'm doing something
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that morning. Right up to her disappearance, this group of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: people socialized with Jody. As they realized Jody's abductor might
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: not be a stranger, they grew uncomfortable with one of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: their friends. They see signals you may not have seen
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that make me think that there is always a possibility
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that could be somebody that we you know. Now, take
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a listen to Brian Mastree and Beth Bednar, former anchor
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: from KIMT and k A A L. Speaking to our
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: friends at ID. Investigators start to zero in on someone
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: who was with Jody the night before. They knew that
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: she had been with a friend twenty years her senior,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: John van says, John Van Sis is considerably older than her,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: recently divorced to book to masa city, You've spent a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: lot of time together. Two weeks prior to her disappearance,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: John had had a birthday party for who is celebrated
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: twenty first day. It seems though he was the last
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: one to see Jody alive. To Caroline Low, investigative journalist,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and you can find her at find Jody dot com,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: find Jodi podcast and Caroline Low TV. Caroline, who is
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: this guy? And so he's the last one to see
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: her alive the night before? That's what he says. His
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: name is John Van Sis. He was twenty two years
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: older than Jody, and just two days earlier that weekend,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: he and several of Jody's friends have gotten together in
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: northern Iowa to go on a water skiing trip. In fact,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: she writes about him in her journal. The last thing
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: she writes about two days before she disappeared, talks about
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: what a great time she had with John Van Seise
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: her other friends Annie Cruz and Tammy Baker. So he's
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: an older friend who has spent a lot of time
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: with her in the last couple months before she disappears.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And to you, Jay Alberia, former commander Woodbury Police Department, Jay,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: did he worked with her in what capacity? No? John
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Van says did not work with her. With Jody, there
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: are acquaintances. As far as we know, John had lived
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: in the apartment complex at one time, as possibly where
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: he met Jody that became friends. Had a mutual interest
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in waterskiing and John had a boat. So John was
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: taking her water skiing, and we believed that he was
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: also helping her learn how to water ski. Did Joe
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and Nathy what was her relationship with John Vansis? Well,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: actually I didn't know about the guy till this all happened.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: She had mentioned to my mom. My mom cautioned her
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that she was not really dating this guy, but he
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: was a friend, you know and stuff. And my mom said, well,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you better be careful because you know he might be
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: getting romantically interested in you. Oh, we're just good friends,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Jody would say, you know, and so but I after
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: hearing about after it all happened, we know that he
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: was quite obsessed with Jody. Yeah, oh, oh, just he
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: wanted always to be a rounder and he wanted to um,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you know. He he even named his boat after her,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: which was odd. And the friends knew that too, and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: they cautioned Jody. They said, Jody, are you sure that
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: John isn't more interested in you than you think? And
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: it was just very obvious that he that he has been,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: was very interested in her. Yeah, as a matter of fact,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct. Joe An Nathy, this is Jody's sister
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: joining us. Take a listen to Mary McGuire. Kimt forced
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to play the role of both journalist and friend. Robin
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Wolf from reported on the disappearance, even interviewing the man
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: who Jody was seen with last What was his demean
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: her life? Joyful, almost strangely happy, and telling me how
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: he named his boat after and how he just loved her.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: She has no doubt in her mind. Batman, an older
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: gentleman who was friends with Jody, is the one responsible
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: for her dis furance, cautioned Jody about their friendship in television.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: We have a gut instinct about things. My gut, and
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: my instinct tells me that he's responsible. WCCO is not
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: naming the man now living in Arizona since he has
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: not been charged with any crime, but Wolfram isn't the
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: only one who shares those same suspicions about him. Last March,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: find Jodie dot Com, a website dedicated to the case,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: reported Mason City police served him with a search warrant
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: seeking GPS data on two of his cars. Straight out
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to Caroline Low, Caroline, what can you tell me about
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the search warrant served on this guy, this much older
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: gentleman twenty two years for saying year that apparently was
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: besotted with her. The search warrants occurred in two seventeen,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and they remained sealed to this day. Each year they'll
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: probably be resealed by a judge. While what their police
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: were seeking, it was two vehicles associated with John van Seiss,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: vehicles that he did not have back in nineteen ninety five,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they weren't manufactured soil a few years later. We don't
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: know specifically what they were seeking. Their probably will cause
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: statements affidavit is not public. What we do know, as
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: they said, is they were after she disappeared. The possible
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: theory is that they were seeking to see if maybe
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: he was going to some kind of a crime scene
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: when he was back in Iowa. He was subpoena before
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: a federal grand jury in that same month where he
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: was ordered to provide palm prints, fingerprints, and DNA sample,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: but we don't know in the chief later set it
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: did not produce any evidence I'm guessing Wendy Patrick that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they would want to compare. He has not been named
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: as a suspect. Number one, let's just state that any
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: potential palm prints or fingerprints is something found on that car.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And you know, Joanne and your other guests,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: what we've done is we bumped the timeline back to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: even the night before. So you talk about that palm print,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: where it came from, who might have made it. Now
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: we're sweeping in people that may have seen her within
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: even the last twelve hours. And yes, you know forensics.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I know this happens a long time ago, but we
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: still today had some of what we had even back then,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: good old fashioned forensics, especially in a case like this
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: where that's all that they had left at the scene.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: There was no footage or cell phone pinging what we
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: do nowadays. A paul print like that would have been
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: an enormous piece of evidence. It could have been anyone.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Everybody in the area knows Jody who's in true. They
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: say her every single morning. Take a listen to Jennifer
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Austin ka R eleven. Don't think because the world is
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: consoled with other news, that she's forgotten. Caroline Lowe is
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: an investigative journalist and part of the Fine Jodi Team,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a group of investigators who continue to look into the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: unsolved case what happened to Jody. They launched a podcast
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: this month on what would have been Jodie's fifty second birthday,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: hoping to keep eyes on her story and find answers
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: about what happened the early morning of June twenty seventh,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, when Jody left her apartment late for
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: her job anchoring the morning news, America's most highly publicized
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: missing children she never made it. She was very easy
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to follow. You knew her schedule anchoring the six am
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and new news, her whole number, her address, or even
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: listed the local directory. She would have been very easy
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to find. What could have been done differently? And can
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: there be a save? Take a listen to our cut
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: sixteen A. This is Laurley ABC six KAA l listen.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I can't remembering or later work. She's a professional journalism journalist.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Then general manager John Shine seen during a press conference
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: later that day describing a very different Jody, a devoted
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: employee who took her job seriously. Love. I've made it
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: clear this case is not going to go away for us.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: For many decades, this case has puzzled the Mason City
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Police Department. What do you think you, as chief can
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: do different than the chiefs prior to you that have
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: had this is under their tail and nothing has come about.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here in second guess decisions made
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the officers in the field twenty five years ago about
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: what they did. I will tell you that I don't
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: believe that any of them probably thought that we would
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  Speaker 1: still be working this case today. Chief Jeff Brinkley says,
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  Speaker 1: bringing a fresh pair of eyes to the case could
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  Speaker 1: help cold cases. I think there are of interest to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's obviously a case that affected
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  Speaker 1: Mason City, and so if we could put some closure
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  Speaker 1: to that, I'm interested in doing that. To Caroline Low,
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  Speaker 1: investigative journalists find Jodi dot Com. Caroline, where does it
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  Speaker 1: stand now? There was one reporting of a body found
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  Speaker 1: out of Mason City River. We don't believe it remains,
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  Speaker 1: and we don't believe that was Jody. A PI popped
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  Speaker 1: up and said he had information that he is still
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  Speaker 1: not shared with anyone in the family. Have there been
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  Speaker 1: any developments, Caroline that we could really sink our teeth into, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: I really wish I could say there were, And we
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  Speaker 1: get tips all the time that find Jody dot Com,
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  Speaker 1: but we had no information that authorities, anybody is any
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  Speaker 1: closer to finding Jody Husing Trout today than they were
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  Speaker 1: almost twenty six years ago. To Joanne Nathan, this is
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  Speaker 1: Jody's sister, Joanne, what is your most vivid memory of
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  Speaker 1: your sister Jody. Well, she was always so very caring
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  Speaker 1: about us. She always wanted us to be happy. That
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  Speaker 1: was a big interest, you know, if she was working
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  Speaker 1: at a resort and her time off, she did invite
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  Speaker 1: us up to use the facilities, and oh she was
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  Speaker 1: just so bubbly. She's personality. Plus you know, she probably
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  Speaker 1: didn't have the best speaking ability necessarily, but oh, her
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  Speaker 1: personality on the air just came through, I know, Doug
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  Speaker 1: Marbek Tody. The ratings were very high and one thing though,
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  Speaker 1: she revealed too much about her personal life on the
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  Speaker 1: air also, but that's you know, Jody. She was so
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  Speaker 1: personable with everyone and people felt they really really knew her.
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  Speaker 1: And all you need is somebody who's not playing with
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  Speaker 1: a full deck to become obsessed and sitting and listening
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  Speaker 1: to her daily routine. She would often talk where she
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  Speaker 1: went jogging and what activity she was going to do
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  Speaker 1: that day, and she probably went. She probably did too
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  Speaker 1: much of that on the air. You know, it was
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  Speaker 1: too personable, but they liked it. Viewers loved it. Find
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  Speaker 1: dy dot com also Jodie's Network of Hope dot org
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  Speaker 1: tipline nine seven zero four five eight Jody nine seven
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  Speaker 1: zero four five eight five six three four. The search
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  Speaker 1: goes on for Jody Houston Street Nancy Grace Crime Story
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  Speaker 1: signing off Goodbye Friend,