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Have The Buckeyes Found The Answers To Their Offensive Line Questions? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, August twenty third.
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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Tom Moore.
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Speaker 1: The Akron game in eight days, the game against Michigan
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Speaker 1: in ninety nine days. This was a very very special
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Speaker 1: live episode. And then we had some technical difficulties. Kevin
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Speaker 1: told us you can blame gremlins. You can blame Kevin.
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Speaker 1: You suggested Kevin the gremlin, I said, don't.
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Speaker 2: Get them wet. Don't feed him after midnight. Either way,
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Speaker 2: That's all right. We got most of the show.
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Speaker 1: The one thing we do need to talk about before
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Speaker 1: we dive into the rest of the show is what
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Speaker 1: we talked about the start of the live show, joined
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Speaker 1: by Tony Gerderman pucka huddle dot Com. Tony, what is
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Speaker 1: your favorite thing in the entire world?
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Speaker 3: Well, some football related Australian punters.
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Speaker 2: Okay, good, good, That was the correct answer.
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Speaker 1: Punters from the land down Under, from the land of
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Speaker 1: vegemite sandwiches, from the land of pol Hogan comes from
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Speaker 1: the land of Yahoo, Sirius mad Max, Mad Max. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the Coriolis effect in full. Ef fact, the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: is going to have an Australian punter this year. His
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Speaker 1: name is Nick McLarty. He is very tall, he kicks
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Speaker 1: the football very far. Usually the hangtime is usually incredible.
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Speaker 1: This is something where we watched him during practices and
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Speaker 1: it's like, man, if he can get it dialed in. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: he has just moved from literally the other side of
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Speaker 1: the world, literally another hemisphere, to a new country, going
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Speaker 1: to a new school, playing a sport that he's not
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Speaker 1: played for a particularly long time. So there's going to
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Speaker 1: be a little bit of an adjustment. But man, oh man,
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Speaker 1: if he gets that dialed in, he is going to
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Speaker 1: turn into the biggest of fan favorites in Columbus, Ohio.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, chicks dig the long ball, as they say, and
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Speaker 3: being an Australian kicking long balls as well, I think
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Speaker 3: is only going to be all the better for him.
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Speaker 3: But the thing we've seen from him in practice is
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Speaker 3: you know, sky moonshots basically, but not all the time.
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Speaker 3: And that's something that Ryan Day has talked about where
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Speaker 3: they want like forty two to forty five yards a kick,
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Speaker 3: and they want the same amount of hangtime. They just
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Speaker 3: want to know what they're running down to cover because
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Speaker 3: that's what the coverage is designed to do. And so
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Speaker 3: if the kick is twenty yards longer than expected, then
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Speaker 3: things have shifted and they've adjusted, and so that creates
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Speaker 3: some unknowns that they don't necessarily want or need. So
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Speaker 3: they want that consistency. But also it's not like they're
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Speaker 3: going to be punting from their own forty every time.
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Speaker 3: There are gonna be times where you really do want
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Speaker 3: to on cork one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have seen punters really flip the field. That
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Speaker 1: JK Scott was the Alabama punter, right man, Dude, do
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Speaker 1: you remember that that the Sugar Bowl where JK Scott
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Speaker 1: was you know, he was almost the MVP of that
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Speaker 1: game in the way that Drew Chrisman was the MVP
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Speaker 1: of the Michigan State game in two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think it was.
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Speaker 1: You have seen punters really change the game. This is
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Speaker 1: one where we'll see what it looks like. It's going
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Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a work in progress.
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Speaker 2: But the fact that Brian Day talked about consistency.
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Speaker 1: Being such a key and Nick McLarty being named the
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Speaker 1: starter at this point, that to me suggests, Okay, you
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Speaker 1: have seen improvement consistent in the consistency over the last
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Speaker 1: week or week and a half since we have last
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Speaker 1: seen him punting in practice. That to me is a
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Speaker 1: pretty encouraging piece of news.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you would expect him to be better as
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Speaker 3: a sophomore, as a junior as a senior, but also
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Speaker 3: better in October, better in November. We'll see about December
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Speaker 3: and January, although some of those games are going to
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Speaker 3: be endures, so maybe he will be better by then.
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Speaker 3: But the more he punts, the more he plays, the
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Speaker 3: better he's going to get. Not you wouldn't expect any
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Speaker 3: type of regression, you know, like knee tendonitis or anything
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Speaker 3: like that. So the fact that he's already even it's
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Speaker 3: one of those if he's even he's leaving, and it
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Speaker 3: sure seems like he's leaving right now.
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Speaker 1: So that is the end of the punting talk, believe
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Speaker 1: it or not. There are other things to talk about.
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Speaker 1: I know, we are in Big ten country. Even though
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Speaker 1: Kirk Ferrance has been in the news over.
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Speaker 2: The last twenty four hours or so, there are things
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Speaker 2: other than Planny to talk about. So now we.
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Speaker 1: Bring you to the rest of the live show for
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Speaker 1: Buckey's for Morning for Friday. I get the sense that
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Speaker 1: Ohio States punter this year is going to be something
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Speaker 1: of a fan favorite.
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Speaker 3: Well, and as Ryan Day said, there will be times
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Speaker 3: where he punched the ball out of the stadium this
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Speaker 3: year and then times he dozens. So they're still searching
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Speaker 3: for that consistency, if you will. But yeah, like right now,
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Speaker 3: he's slated to be the guy. They expect him. They've
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Speaker 3: told him that you're the guy and you st to
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Speaker 3: have to continue to progress. But I'm a little like,
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Speaker 3: clearly they went to get him for him to start,
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Speaker 3: but they also brought in a guy who started Buffalo
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Speaker 3: a Buffalo for two years and did reasonably well, averaging
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Speaker 3: like forty three yards forty two, forty three yards a
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Speaker 3: kick for two years. So like that experience you would
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Speaker 3: think would carry some weight. I think it has. It's
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Speaker 3: just Nick McClarty has done pretty well. But you know, like, well,
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Speaker 3: why don't you just kick at sixty yards every single time?
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Speaker 3: And Ryan Day said a week or two ago, they
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Speaker 3: want like forty to forty five yards, like forty five
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Speaker 3: seconds of hang time, Like they want consistency so everybody
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Speaker 3: knows where the ball is going, don't OutKick your coverage
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Speaker 3: that sort of thing. But also you know, if you're
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Speaker 3: ever backed up at like your own twenty and cork it.
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Speaker 1: It's nice to have the Todd Sower Bruin club in
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Speaker 1: your bag, even if you don't necessarily hit it incredibly consistently.
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Speaker 1: I watched him punt during practice and thought, boy, if
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Speaker 1: he wins the starting job, Ohio State fans are going
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Speaker 1: to absolutely love him.
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Speaker 2: And sometimes he's going to not hit one.
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Speaker 1: Exactly square and then they'll lead throwing stuff at their TVs.
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Speaker 1: But when Ryan they talked about the importance consistency that
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Speaker 1: I thought, oh boy, you're probably gonna get one of
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Speaker 1: the upper classmic and you wait a year for the
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Speaker 1: Nick McLarty experience if they're basing it on consistency. And
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Speaker 1: Brian Day talked about him coming along and making significant
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Speaker 1: progress or during the course of camp. This could be
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Speaker 1: you know, this could be a pretty impressive thing for
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Speaker 1: Ohio State if it works out. And however often he
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Speaker 1: is called upon to perform his duties.
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Speaker 3: Right six or seven times this season, probably no more
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Speaker 3: than that. But if he's already, say the most consistent
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Speaker 3: or as consistent, you would expect him to just get
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Speaker 3: better and better as he gains more and more experience
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Speaker 3: playing a completely different game than the when he grew
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Speaker 3: up with Tony.
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Speaker 1: We will tease forward right now to the fact that
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Speaker 1: we are going to be doing a live Buckeye Weekly
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Speaker 1: Bold Prediction show on Friday morning.
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Speaker 2: Let's say eleven am. Sure, why not?
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what time we say, because sometimes when
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Speaker 1: we put in these times for shows, after interviews, we
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Speaker 1: go on forty five minutes.
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Speaker 2: Weeven sometimes we go on forty five minutes early.
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Speaker 3: That's why you subscribe. Hit the bell's be notified while
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Speaker 3: you're watching nods going hit the thumbs as well. That
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Speaker 3: would be fantastic.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, I will say, thumbs up to
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Speaker 1: the fact that I am. I'm just gonna put down
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Speaker 1: DIBs right now. I get the Nick McLardy number of
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Speaker 1: eighty yard punts this year Bold Prediction, how many is
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Speaker 1: it going to be? Well, we'll talk about that on
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Speaker 1: tomorrow's Bucky Weaker show.
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Speaker 2: But I am I'm giving a thumbs up to that.
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Speaker 3: So you think at some point this season they're going
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Speaker 3: to be backed up within their own like inside of
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Speaker 3: their own twenty that's what you're telling me.
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Speaker 1: I do think that that will happen. You know what,
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Speaker 1: if you want to give me a two for I
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Speaker 1: will I will count that. I'm only going to take
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Speaker 1: one point on that one, but I will at some
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Speaker 1: point this season be backed up inside their own twenty
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Speaker 1: yard line.
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Speaker 2: Nope, so that's probably enough punter talk.
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Speaker 1: Just keep going, okay, okay, so that's probably enough punter
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Speaker 1: talk if you can even have.
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Speaker 2: Such a thing.
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Speaker 3: Jim Trust just turned off the show.
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Speaker 1: Well, and Kirk Ferens has more time for punter talks
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Speaker 1: now that he's serving a self imposed one game suspension.
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Speaker 2: But that's enough punter talk for now.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the main topic of tonight's show, the
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Speaker 1: offensive line.
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Speaker 2: That is something that has certainly been the.
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Speaker 1: Single biggest concern for Ohio State fans over the course
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Speaker 1: of the season. It seems like there's maybe multiple acceptable
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Speaker 1: answers in terms of who the five starting offensive linean
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Speaker 1: can be. Rande not quite willing to make that announcement,
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Speaker 1: but the general tone of things from Ryan Day, from
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Speaker 1: Justin Fry.
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Speaker 2: In terms of the.
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Speaker 1: Top line o Higo State offensive line and even the
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Speaker 1: second string Ohio State offensive line and the quality depth
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Speaker 1: they have there, this is way way more optimistic than
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Speaker 1: I was expecting them to be this time of year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally expected pessimism.
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Speaker 2: Well you know how they talk about it when they're
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Speaker 2: not opposive, right.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's the words they don't say. But yeah, that
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Speaker 3: was one of the benefits of the ick that went through,
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Speaker 3: the funky virus that went through the offensive line at
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Speaker 3: camp because they came out better for it, and they've
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Speaker 3: got guys that Austin's Seervel got a ton of experience
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Speaker 3: playing guard and tackle that he wouldn't have necessarily gotten
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Speaker 3: with the ones for sure that he was able to
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Speaker 3: do and that raises him up and taker Shibola being
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Speaker 3: the one of the most consistent guys throughout because he
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Speaker 3: was available and was able to you know, Ryan Day
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Speaker 3: talked about it, and Justin Fry talked about the double
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Speaker 3: dipping of you know, sometimes you're went the ones, you
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Speaker 3: got to now you gotta roll with the twos because
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Speaker 3: we're gonna run three three groups out here and you're
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Speaker 3: gonna have to be part of two of the three.
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Speaker 3: So that's gotten them more reps. And we know they
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Speaker 3: had split fields through some of that as well, So
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Speaker 3: a lot of work, no complaining because this is you know,
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Speaker 3: you only have to be one of the five best
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Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter whether you're the second center or
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Speaker 3: the third guard. Like, if you're one of the five best,
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Speaker 3: they're gonna find room, find room for you. And while
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Speaker 3: Ryan Day did say Taker is going to play like
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Speaker 3: you said, he hasn't quite put out there that he's
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Speaker 3: going to be the starter that'll take place next few
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Speaker 3: days over the weekend, they'll meet and figure out exactly
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Speaker 3: what the two deep that they want will be and
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Speaker 3: what the starters are be. And said the same thing
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Speaker 3: about Sonny Styles, because I asked about Sonny Styles not
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Speaker 3: to go way off, but like he's like leader in
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Speaker 3: the clubhouse. But there's still more time to decide that yet.
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Speaker 1: The guy who is battling Taker Shabola for the starting
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Speaker 1: right guard job is Carson Hinsman.
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Speaker 2: You've got a chance to You were over there with
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Speaker 2: Carson Hinsman.
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Speaker 1: That was the interview that I thought was maybe going
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Speaker 1: to be the most interesting today because he's had, you know,
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Speaker 1: the ick, the funky virus has probably impacted him. I'm
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Speaker 1: so so looking forward to not having to talk about
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Speaker 1: funky viruses and or ick at any point in the
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Speaker 1: near future.
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Speaker 2: But he's someone who has maybe been more impacted.
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Speaker 1: Than that by that over the span of the month
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Speaker 1: than a lot of other guys, And so what did
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Speaker 1: he have to say about what this month has been
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Speaker 1: like for him?
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Speaker 2: And is he behind where he should be? Where is
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Speaker 2: he right now?
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Speaker 3: And you know whatever. We talked to him. He's one
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Speaker 3: of the best interviews on the team. He's a hilarious guy,
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Speaker 3: straightforward and honest, it says. So I asked him, how
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Speaker 3: how difficult has it been competing for us? You're dealing
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Speaker 3: with an illness, you're competing for a starting job at
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Speaker 3: a new position, so it's like you're getting all of
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Speaker 3: these three things thrown at you and you can't have
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Speaker 3: a bad day. And he's like, yeah, it's not easy.
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Speaker 3: And the quote was football is hard. If you didn't
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Speaker 3: love it, you'd hate it. And I thought that's pretty profound,
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Speaker 3: Like he said, you'd really hate it, And it's true,
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Speaker 3: because it's misery when you're ill and you're seeing somebody
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Speaker 3: competing at the position that you moved to take Like
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Speaker 3: you are now a guard, I'm going to be the
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Speaker 3: right guard. I've got twelve games of starting experience last
11:35
Speaker 3: year's I read year freshman, I'm pretty much already the
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Speaker 3: starting guard. And now it's like, now you're not quite
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Speaker 3: back to ground zero square one because he's still competing,
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Speaker 3: but you're not at square twelve.
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Speaker 2: Right, you have taken the shoot down.
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Speaker 1: You thought you were starting up a significant ladder, and
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Speaker 1: you have taken a little bit of a shoot a
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Speaker 1: funky shoot tony down, and that is not Probably he
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Speaker 1: was expecting to be at this point still in the
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Speaker 1: still in the fight, still in the battle as they
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Speaker 1: sort of sort that out, and he is certainly Whoever,
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Speaker 1: I feel like we don't know who the top five is.
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Speaker 2: We do know who the top six is at.
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Speaker 1: This point, and with some of the flexibility that they
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Speaker 1: have there, where Carson Hinsman, if he's one of the
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Speaker 1: top six, well, you know he's played center before.
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Speaker 2: He didn't, in fact do that for an entire season.
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Speaker 1: Before you've got guys Tiger Shabola has played at tackle before.
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Speaker 1: You've got guys who they can sort of shuffle around
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Speaker 1: a little bit.
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Speaker 3: And Carson Hinsman even said, you know, don't forget I
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Speaker 3: was a right tackle my freshman year. He's like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: sixty three, ye right tackle going against Jack Sawyer. That
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Speaker 3: was fun. Yeah, Ben I did remind him, hey, you're
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Speaker 3: six y five on the roster, so that's true. Yeah,
12:43
Speaker 3: he did mcmuratdy for that one.
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Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, but just hanging from the bar.
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Speaker 2: So he is.
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Speaker 1: He is definitely one of those guys who he's gonna
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Speaker 1: have an impact. All the stuff that Ryan Day said
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Speaker 1: about Tiger Shabola, he's gonna play this year, you could
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Speaker 1: say the same thing with Carson Hinsmon.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna play this year. Does he start? Don't you know?
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Speaker 2: We'll find out perhaps the next day or two.
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Speaker 3: But you start against Akron, somebody else is gonna be
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Speaker 3: starting against Penn State.
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Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: So that's sort of the top offensive line, the depth
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Speaker 1: of the offensive line. This is another one where every
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Speaker 1: black cloud, every funky virus has a silver lining.
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Speaker 3: My favorite Grateful Dead song.
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Speaker 1: The silver a touch of a touch of funky virus,
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Speaker 1: a touch of a touch of silver lining.
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Speaker 3: Every it has a silver lining.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that was with Poison. Actually, who's sang that song? Anyway,
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Speaker 2: we're not here to talk about that.
13:34
Speaker 1: And we know Ohio State players not up to speed
13:36
Speaker 1: on the nineteen seventies or nineteen eighties rock. So let's
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Speaker 1: just move along and talk about the fact that some
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Speaker 1: of those younger guys got an opportunity you talked about,
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Speaker 1: you know, double.
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Speaker 2: Dipping, and it sounds like a lot of that next tier.
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Speaker 1: Of Lineman's, guys like Zen Maholsky, guys like George Fitzpatrick,
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Speaker 1: guys like Luke Montgomery, a bunch of those guys. Sounds
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Speaker 1: like they have really made the most of their opportunity.
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Speaker 1: And now they're to the point where I don't know
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Speaker 1: exactly where the circle of trust really truly begins and
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Speaker 1: ends right now?
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Speaker 2: Is that six as that seven? Is that eight? Is
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Speaker 2: at nine?
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Speaker 1: But guys are certainly at the absolute minimum closer to
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Speaker 1: the circle of trust now than they were just even
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're allowed to see it now. They're allowed into
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Speaker 3: the room to watch from the back of the room.
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Speaker 3: But Ryan Day said it earlier last week or recently,
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Speaker 3: and Justin Fried just said it again, like the Zen
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Speaker 3: and George Zen Mahaskin, George Fitzpatrick have had their best
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Speaker 3: camp and you're you're seeing it out of them, and
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Speaker 3: they are getting closer. He was asked for. I was asked,
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Speaker 3: do you have a number three tackle? Yet? Same thing
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Speaker 3: I asked Ryan Day last week and it's still not
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Speaker 3: decided yet because of the illness, and that's that they're
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Speaker 3: gonna have to figure that one out. But again that's
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Speaker 3: part of the sitting down in the coaches meetings and
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Speaker 3: figuring out the too deep and where they go next.
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Speaker 3: Didn't sound like it would be tigra in terms of
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Speaker 3: moving somebody out, because you know he's they want they
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Speaker 3: only they only want to do so much cross training,
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Speaker 3: and if somebody's playing really well right now, you don't
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Speaker 3: want to have all of these moving parts. It'd be
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Speaker 3: better if it's just one tackle plug in for one tackle.
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Speaker 3: And so they're still trying to figure that out. I
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Speaker 3: don't know who. And you can throw Austin Seervell's name
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Speaker 3: in there as well as one of those I think
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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be one of those three. I
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Speaker 3: don't know who else it could be. And Ian Moore
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Speaker 3: has gotten some time with the twos, but he's still
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Speaker 3: just a true freshman. You're gonna have to assume the
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Speaker 3: older guys, these older second and third year players, would
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Speaker 3: be the guy that they would turn to.
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Speaker 1: Well, you go back eighteen months and we're looking at
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Speaker 1: an Ohio State football team that's like, well, how many
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Speaker 1: how many tackles? So do they have on their team
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Speaker 1: that they feel really good about right now?
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Speaker 2: It's like, well maybe one maybe, and.
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Speaker 1: Now you've got they feel very good about left and
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Speaker 1: right sorry tackles starting Josh Eoman's Josh Fryer.
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Speaker 2: Sounds like they're.
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Speaker 1: Feeling pretty decent about Zen Mahalsky, George Fitzpatrick, Austin Sierraveld.
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Speaker 1: We've heard very positive things about Ian Moore just lost
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Speaker 1: as black stripe. You could now look and go, here's
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Speaker 1: the three deep at Ohio State at tackle for Ohio State,
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Speaker 1: and they feel at least you know, if your sixth
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Speaker 1: best tackles on the field, you probably have bigger problems.
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Speaker 2: At that point.
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Speaker 1: So to have two guys behind the starters who were
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Speaker 1: like at least okay, and two guys behind them who
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Speaker 1: are at least maybe a year away from being at
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Speaker 1: least okay, that feels like about as good a position
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Speaker 1: as Ohio State has been in in terms of depth
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Speaker 1: at that tackle position in several years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the reminded of Max Ray in twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: who never played and then had a spot start against
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Speaker 3: what Michigan State ye grated out a champion and the
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Speaker 3: preparation everybody's doing it, and you know that you could
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Speaker 3: be thrown in at any time, and if you're not
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Speaker 3: taking it seriously, you will get exposed. And we've seen
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Speaker 3: some linement exposed around here and they may have taken
17:05
Speaker 3: it seriously, but they still got exposed. And there's so
17:07
Speaker 3: that it's a double edged sword, like you can be
17:10
Speaker 3: really prepared and still not be good, or you can
17:12
Speaker 3: be not prepared at all and be really, really terrible,
17:15
Speaker 3: and they don't want that to happen. There's a lot
17:17
Speaker 3: of pride going on in this room. The defensive linemen
17:19
Speaker 3: have talked about that where they're seeing a different mentality
17:23
Speaker 3: and some you know, maybe maybe more tenacity from the
17:26
Speaker 3: offensive line as a whole. And you know that's that's
17:28
Speaker 3: a credit to the veterans. I think that's a credit
17:31
Speaker 3: to Seth McLaughlan coming in the the the rebirth of
17:36
Speaker 3: Carson Hinzman from ending the season last year and like
17:39
Speaker 3: re re engaging any credited as you know, the teammates
17:43
Speaker 3: who have been through difficulties. Josh Fryer, you know, has
17:47
Speaker 3: been I mean he's still all big ten and he's
17:49
Speaker 3: still being don't go on to social media, you know, like,
17:52
Speaker 3: don't look at his mentions because he was asked what's
17:56
Speaker 3: it like being an Ohio State football player. He's like,
17:57
Speaker 3: when it's good, it's really good. When it's bad, it's bad.
18:00
Speaker 3: And that's for a lot of these guys.
18:03
Speaker 1: And C. J.
18:03
Speaker 3: Stroud will tell you the same thing. J. T. Barrett
18:05
Speaker 3: woul tell you the same thing. When it's bad, it's
18:08
Speaker 3: the worst thing that you never think about in recruiting.
18:11
Speaker 3: He said, the same thing. I never thought about that
18:13
Speaker 3: when I was going to become an Ohio State football player.
18:16
Speaker 3: The negativity that can be around you when something doesn't
18:21
Speaker 3: go perfect.
18:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, the good news is a lot of people are
18:25
Speaker 1: paying attention. The bad news is a lot of people
18:27
Speaker 1: are paying attention. Let's just get a couple real basic
18:31
Speaker 1: points out before we get to the meat of the season,
18:33
Speaker 1: before we head into game week. Number one, hit the
18:36
Speaker 1: thumbs up. Number two, subscribe to our YouTube channel. Number three,
18:40
Speaker 1: hit the bell. Number four, don't add the players. Stop stop,
18:43
Speaker 1: don't stop it stop. You don't know it's okay. No
18:48
Speaker 1: one is going to grade out one hundred percent. That
18:50
Speaker 1: is not in the bar. And you know, this is
18:54
Speaker 1: probably worth a whole separate conversation. But if they lose
18:56
Speaker 1: a football game this year, it's not actually the end
18:58
Speaker 1: of the season. That's unless it happens to January. And
19:01
Speaker 1: even that doughnut the players, Yeah, that's not even not
19:05
Speaker 1: even then, not even then, someone who probably has some
19:09
Speaker 1: experience with dealing with hostile people on social media. No,
19:13
Speaker 1: not you, seth maclaughlan. This will be a little bit
19:16
Speaker 1: different because the fans will be spelling words correctly now
19:19
Speaker 1: as opposed to last season. But it is this is
19:22
Speaker 1: a transition year for him, although he said he feels
19:26
Speaker 1: very much like he's been here a long time already.
19:30
Speaker 2: He was at Alabama last.
19:31
Speaker 1: Year, ended their season in the Rose Bowl against Michigan,
19:35
Speaker 1: and then transferred to Ohio State just days later.
19:39
Speaker 2: And I think a.
19:40
Speaker 1: Lot of people at the time looked at that and said, Hahaha.
19:43
Speaker 2: There's that guy.
19:45
Speaker 1: And you haven't really seen any of that. Since he
19:49
Speaker 1: got here. He's been pretty he's been very consistent. He
19:51
Speaker 1: has clearly won the starting job. That has been one
19:54
Speaker 1: of those things that even going back to the spring,
19:56
Speaker 1: it was kind of like you could see sort of
19:58
Speaker 1: see where this one was headed.
20:00
Speaker 3: He's never been mentioned, right, he he has just.
20:02
Speaker 1: Coach been the guy, even though there last year's starting
20:04
Speaker 1: center was on the team, still on the team, and
20:08
Speaker 1: he has just sort of come in, stepped in, taken
20:11
Speaker 1: over that you know, taken over that room, taken over
20:14
Speaker 1: that line. He's going to be making all those line calls.
20:16
Speaker 1: Every time you talk to someone about him, you hear
20:17
Speaker 1: how smart he is. You hear how he's just got
20:19
Speaker 1: a good, great grasp on everything, and he's you know,
20:23
Speaker 1: when we've watched practice, he's been consistent. When we've heard
20:27
Speaker 1: about people, heard people talking about how he's been doing, it.
20:29
Speaker 2: Feels like he's been consistent.
20:30
Speaker 1: It just it feels like that's something that you think
20:34
Speaker 1: about where the center position was in the Cotton Bowl
20:37
Speaker 1: and the uncertainty moving you know, looking forward from that point,
20:42
Speaker 1: it feels like that is just problem solved, drama free
20:47
Speaker 1: and moving forward just immediately.
20:51
Speaker 3: And when I say like the coaches haven't even named
20:54
Speaker 3: him the starter, it's just that he's talked about as
20:56
Speaker 3: if he is because he is. Right, Like, it's just
20:58
Speaker 3: an understood thing. And similar to what Ryan Day was
21:01
Speaker 3: saying when we talked to him earlier tonight, that a
21:04
Speaker 3: true freshman that has enrolled in January. He no longer
21:07
Speaker 3: considers them a freshman. They don't consider Seth McLaughlin a
21:10
Speaker 3: new guy now, Like he knows the offense, knows the calls,
21:13
Speaker 3: is comfortable with that, has obviously been dealing with a
21:17
Speaker 3: defensive line that puts you to the test and he's
21:20
Speaker 3: come through it. And so I think they're very very
21:23
Speaker 3: comfortable with him, and he's comfortable with his teammates, and
21:25
Speaker 3: so it's been pretty seamless, very positive, and it's just
21:30
Speaker 3: another veteran voice. He's making all of the calls, getting
21:34
Speaker 3: everybody where they need to be, and is just just
21:38
Speaker 3: a command of the job that wasn't always there and
21:43
Speaker 3: certainly wasn't there in the Cotton Bowl, and so now
21:46
Speaker 3: it's it's it's just a new level of confidence and
21:52
Speaker 3: you're sure about what you're doing, and your teammates are
21:55
Speaker 3: sure about what you're telling them. So like everybody's playing
21:59
Speaker 3: more confidently because they know the guy giving them the
22:03
Speaker 3: instruction has it.
22:04
Speaker 1: Right right and you know that the guy next to
22:08
Speaker 1: him is Donovan Jackson and he's been a multi year
22:11
Speaker 1: starter and a fourth year player. Josh Fryer same thing,
22:14
Speaker 1: multi year starter now fourth year player, just I mean,
22:18
Speaker 1: you just it's such a reliable I think it's probably
22:23
Speaker 1: a good It's not the most exciting word, but it
22:25
Speaker 1: feels like Josh Simmons. Look at how far Josh Shimmons
22:28
Speaker 1: came just in the course of last season and now
22:30
Speaker 1: he's had a whole nother offseason. It just feels like
22:34
Speaker 1: you want your offensive line almost to be boring.
22:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, they It's.
22:39
Speaker 1: Like long snappers, right, you don't if you don't know
22:41
Speaker 1: the name of your long snapper, your long snapper is
22:43
Speaker 1: probably doing a pretty good job. If your offensive line,
22:46
Speaker 1: if you're not, you don't see people complaining about the
22:48
Speaker 1: offensive line. The offensive line is probably doing an amazing
22:50
Speaker 1: job because if they're if they're doing their job, you
22:53
Speaker 1: don't notice.
22:53
Speaker 2: It feels like you're trending towards the.
22:56
Speaker 1: Season where you don't see a ton of complaining about
22:58
Speaker 1: Ohio State's offensive line. US you use the word recruiting,
23:02
Speaker 1: in which case then everything is falling apart.
23:04
Speaker 2: But that's a whole separate story, Tony.
23:07
Speaker 1: We don't even have time to get into that one
23:08
Speaker 1: because we do have to talk a little bit. You
23:10
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier the other side of the ball, talking about
23:13
Speaker 1: the linebacker position.
23:14
Speaker 2: The will linebacker position. It does sound like I don't.
23:18
Speaker 2: Ryan Day was not ready to announce a starter yet, right,
23:20
Speaker 2: but no, not yet.
23:21
Speaker 3: But he did tell me that Sonny is the leader
23:24
Speaker 3: in the clubhouse. So I asked him how the transition's going.
23:26
Speaker 3: He just raved about everything that Sonny did. And then
23:30
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, so is he you're number one? He's like, well, well,
23:34
Speaker 3: still that is still yet to be decided about. Then
23:36
Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, but he is the leader in the clubhouse,
23:38
Speaker 3: which tells you the answer right there. And of course
23:41
Speaker 3: that just begs the question of what does this mean
23:42
Speaker 3: for C. J. Hicks? And they'll find areas to use him.
23:46
Speaker 3: But just the understanding of the defense that Sonny styles
23:49
Speaker 3: has coming from safety now to linebacker has gotten better
23:55
Speaker 3: and more confident from the spring, which they expected and
23:58
Speaker 3: they knew it would be a process. That process seems
24:01
Speaker 3: like it's ready to go now. So I think there's
24:04
Speaker 3: certainly a reason for optimism when you've got a former
24:08
Speaker 3: five star, number one safety in the land who is
24:11
Speaker 3: now bigger and faster and stronger than he was as
24:13
Speaker 3: a six foot four, two hundred and thirty pound safety.
24:16
Speaker 1: You look at pictures of him every once in a while,
24:18
Speaker 1: you'll see a guy who comes in looking one way,
24:21
Speaker 1: and then just a couple of years later, you look
24:23
Speaker 1: and it's like, that can't possibly be the same human being.
24:25
Speaker 1: He might be the best example of that on this
24:27
Speaker 1: year's team. One of the other things that Ryan Day
24:29
Speaker 1: got asked about speaking of places where they probably don't
24:32
Speaker 1: need the absolute greatest performance in the world, but just
24:37
Speaker 1: pretty good would be plenty good for Ohio State at
24:39
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, Ryan Day was asked, Okay, sure, you're
24:42
Speaker 1: probably going to have good enough there.
24:45
Speaker 2: What is the ceiling for Will Howard this year?
24:48
Speaker 3: Well, in the ceiling he talked about everything that Will
24:52
Speaker 3: Howard does well, all of his positive traits. He's big,
24:54
Speaker 3: he's strong, stands in the pocket with the rush coming,
24:58
Speaker 3: he's gotten more accurate, his most act he's ever been
25:00
Speaker 3: in his career, twenty two miles an hour, like, all
25:04
Speaker 3: of these different things. And in terms of his ceiling,
25:06
Speaker 3: he's like, well, you know, you still have to that's
25:08
Speaker 3: up to him, basically, like, but he has all of
25:10
Speaker 3: the traits that project well to the next level. And
25:14
Speaker 3: I guess that's really what you want to hear about
25:16
Speaker 3: a quarterback. And then it's just about the execution. He
25:18
Speaker 3: has all of the traits that you need. He's got
25:20
Speaker 3: the mobility, he's got the arm, he's shown the accuracy.
25:23
Speaker 3: He's comfortable in the pocket, he's not bailing out, you know,
25:25
Speaker 3: at the first sign of distress. So there's plenty to
25:29
Speaker 3: work with. And you get Ryan Day, you got Jim Kelly,
25:33
Speaker 3: you got these receivers, you got this running game, you
25:35
Speaker 3: got a solid offensive line. Here's a lot to like
25:40
Speaker 3: about the possibilities. But as we keep saying, I still
25:44
Speaker 3: want to see it, you know, you still want to
25:46
Speaker 3: see it actualized. But we said the same thing about
25:48
Speaker 3: justin Fields ninety.
25:49
Speaker 1: Sure, you don't know until you see it for sure
25:52
Speaker 1: on the field, And even when you see it against Akron,
25:54
Speaker 1: there's going to be enough of well, sure, but can
25:57
Speaker 1: you do it against Marshall?
25:58
Speaker 3: You know, Joe Bosa may be back.
26:00
Speaker 2: That is true.
26:01
Speaker 1: That is of the many true facts about that era
26:04
Speaker 1: of Ohio State football, that is unquestionably one of them.
26:07
Speaker 1: He is someone who the trajectory with Will Howard is
26:13
Speaker 1: such that he came in and you know, there were
26:16
Speaker 1: opposing fan bases that you know, got their lulls in
26:21
Speaker 1: Tony as the kids say it was funny that Ohio
26:25
Speaker 1: State was taking this guy who had gotten beaten out
26:28
Speaker 1: air quotes at Kansas State, and you know, boy, this
26:31
Speaker 1: is the savior. And in the spring looked fine but
26:35
Speaker 1: had not clearly separated. This fall looked very different, and
26:38
Speaker 1: you're sort.
26:38
Speaker 2: Of talking to people about him.
26:41
Speaker 1: There was a lot of work that went into that,
26:43
Speaker 1: and a lot of physical development, mental training.
26:48
Speaker 2: To just straight up reps out on the practice field.
26:52
Speaker 1: When you get that much better in the span of
26:55
Speaker 1: six months, that's not a process that just stopped.
27:00
Speaker 2: So it's not and here's the finish line and the
27:01
Speaker 2: race is over.
27:03
Speaker 1: That's something that separate guys talked about that they can't
27:05
Speaker 1: be happy with where they are right now. They can't
27:09
Speaker 1: do the Nick saben rat poison thing and go, well,
27:11
Speaker 1: everyone says we're gonna be playing Georgia in the National
27:13
Speaker 1: Championship Game, so sim to January twentieth in Atlanta. That's
27:18
Speaker 1: not how it works. So they've got to get there,
27:20
Speaker 1: and they know they've got to keep improving. But if
27:22
Speaker 1: you improve that much from January to August, it feels
27:27
Speaker 1: like there's probably going to be more improvement after that.
27:29
Speaker 3: From from August to January. Yes, yeah, I would definitely
27:33
Speaker 3: agree with that. And everybody that we talked to is
27:38
Speaker 3: high on him because they've seen it. They've seen not
27:41
Speaker 3: just like oh, he's playing well right now, they've seen
27:43
Speaker 3: where he's come from as well. And like you said, now,
27:46
Speaker 3: it's not the time to plateau and I don't think
27:48
Speaker 3: he's planning on plateauing.
27:50
Speaker 2: I'm quite certain that no one is planning on Platauwa.
27:52
Speaker 3: Would be a good question, will not ready to level out?
27:56
Speaker 3: You think? You?
27:58
Speaker 2: Well?
27:58
Speaker 1: You know, one of the most beloved figures in Ohio
28:01
Speaker 1: sports is Jose Mesa. Now his name means table. What's
28:04
Speaker 1: another word for plateau? Would you like to Mesa?
28:08
Speaker 2: No? No, no, okay?
28:10
Speaker 1: Well, what if the Florida Marlins are on the sk No? Okay, okay, no, okay,
28:15
Speaker 1: there go to the super Chats Okay. So, Kevin, do
28:18
Speaker 1: we have any questions?
28:20
Speaker 3: Got more coming after that? Jose Mesa, Aaron Taylor when
28:23
Speaker 3: they go foot on hood is the ol ordl winning? Well?
28:27
Speaker 3: That was an interesting point brought up by Carson Hinzman
28:31
Speaker 3: and Ryan Day I think said something similar, But Carson
28:34
Speaker 3: was asked about the Chip Kelly influence on the running game,
28:37
Speaker 3: and I tweeted it out because he's like, he's loving it,
28:40
Speaker 3: and he said like, I'm I don't I don't want
28:43
Speaker 3: to say something I shouldn't, but we're doing we're doing
28:46
Speaker 3: well against the High State defense.
28:48
Speaker 2: At times, I don't want to say something I shouldn't.
28:51
Speaker 1: Is the thing that happens right before the best moment
28:53
Speaker 1: of the press conference.
28:54
Speaker 3: But he's very excited. He's like when they look at
28:57
Speaker 3: the script before practice and they're like, we're running this
29:00
Speaker 3: out of this Oh, this is crazy, and so the
29:03
Speaker 3: excitement and then you do it, You're like it works
29:06
Speaker 3: against this defense. So they're all excited. But the defensive
29:11
Speaker 3: line we know is one plenty, and not just because
29:14
Speaker 3: the offensive line has been ill, but because it's a
29:17
Speaker 3: pretty good defensive line. So I think, as Ryan Day said,
29:19
Speaker 3: you've seen some back and forth, which is exactly what
29:22
Speaker 3: you want to.
29:22
Speaker 2: See, right.
29:23
Speaker 1: You don't want one unit completely dominating the other. We
29:26
Speaker 1: have seen those years, and generally those years end up
29:29
Speaker 1: with how did Oregon State score thirty one points against
29:32
Speaker 1: this team? How did the offense only score seven points
29:34
Speaker 1: at Iowa? You end up with a lot of those
29:36
Speaker 1: kind of seasons when one team is one side of
29:39
Speaker 1: the ball is completely dominating the other. When you sort
29:42
Speaker 1: of know the expectation is this is going to be
29:45
Speaker 1: one of, if not the best defenses in the country,
29:47
Speaker 1: and the offense is at least sort of holding its own.
29:51
Speaker 2: The offense doesn't have to be the best in the country.
29:52
Speaker 1: If the offense is top five in the country and
29:54
Speaker 1: the defense is number one, that might be plenty to
29:56
Speaker 1: win a national championship. Geiger Lee, who would likely have
30:02
Speaker 1: the best O line in the Big Ten this year?
30:04
Speaker 1: And why so the best O line in the Big
30:07
Speaker 1: Ten this year? And why I think Ohio State's in
30:13
Speaker 1: that conversation you go through. You know, Michigan has always
30:17
Speaker 1: been the sort of default answer. If it's not Wisconsin,
30:20
Speaker 1: or if it's not Michigan State, it's certainly not Michigan State.
30:23
Speaker 1: It's probably not Wisconsin. Michigan is replacing literally everyone on
30:26
Speaker 1: the offensive line.
30:29
Speaker 2: I don't know. Iowa is got I think.
30:33
Speaker 1: Most folks back, so Iowa's probably going to be in
30:35
Speaker 1: that conversation. Is definitely Oregon is going to be in
30:40
Speaker 1: that conversation. Penn State just lost a first round tackle,
30:44
Speaker 1: so they're probably going to be reloaded.
30:45
Speaker 3: James Franklin has a really good history of building offensive lines.
30:51
Speaker 2: You're thinking of clock management.
30:55
Speaker 1: I think I think the offensive lines in the Big
30:57
Speaker 1: Ten are going to be I don't know that there
30:59
Speaker 1: are an absolute maller of an offensive line, you know,
31:03
Speaker 1: classic Wisconsin offensive line.
31:07
Speaker 2: Joe Moore level.
31:08
Speaker 1: I don't know that you're going to see that level
31:11
Speaker 1: of offensive line playing the Big Ten this year.
31:12
Speaker 2: But Ohio State is going to be in.
31:14
Speaker 1: The top tier, which for the unit that everyone was
31:18
Speaker 1: sort of most concerned about for most of the year,
31:21
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good outcome.
31:23
Speaker 3: Well, and not to steal my own thunder with the
31:26
Speaker 3: Bold Prediction Show tomorrow morning at eleven am, let's say,
31:31
Speaker 3: but you're gonna there's gonna be some Joe Moore talk
31:33
Speaker 3: with this offensive line, I believe, and you're I did
31:36
Speaker 3: this study back in the winter, like February or March,
31:40
Speaker 3: and the number of returning starts that this offensive line
31:44
Speaker 3: has is almost identical to the Michigan offensive line last year.
31:49
Speaker 3: You know, the number of veterans, and just that they
31:52
Speaker 3: had six guys that they could see six or seven
31:54
Speaker 3: guys they considered starters. I think you're talking about an
31:57
Speaker 3: Ohio State offensive line that will have six guys that
32:00
Speaker 3: they consider starters.
32:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think this is gonna be
32:04
Speaker 1: to go to go from the big concern and the
32:08
Speaker 1: thing that derailed the Cotton Bowl and all the uncertainty
32:11
Speaker 1: that was coming out of that twenty three season to
32:14
Speaker 1: where they are now is pretty pretty remarkable, Fort Wayne.
32:21
Speaker 3: But guy, how long until Tom buys his son McLarty Jersey.
32:24
Speaker 1: Oh that's again, long until Tom buyas his son in
32:27
Speaker 1: Nick McClarty Jersey. Uh.
32:30
Speaker 2: Have we talked about this on the show my son
32:33
Speaker 2: when he yes? Yes, I think so. Yes.
32:36
Speaker 1: My son, when he was very little, was a big
32:38
Speaker 1: fan of trains, as many young boys are, watch a
32:41
Speaker 1: lot of Thomas the Tank Engine in my house. So
32:43
Speaker 1: when he found out there was a team that he
32:45
Speaker 1: a train logo, thought, oh, that is gonna be my team.
32:48
Speaker 2: And this happened to be the year of our Lord
32:51
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen.
32:52
Speaker 1: And I said, son, I'm gonna let you make your
32:56
Speaker 1: own choices, but I will tell you on the whole
32:58
Speaker 1: you were going to enjoy footballs and more if you
33:00
Speaker 1: were rooting for Ohio State than if.
33:02
Speaker 2: You are rooting for Purdue. Now you may you remember
33:05
Speaker 2: the Year of Our Lord.
33:05
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen is the year when Ohio State made a
33:07
Speaker 1: trip to Purdue. And you know what kids think is
33:10
Speaker 1: real funny when dad is real wrong about something. And so, yes,
33:15
Speaker 1: I have a Purdue fan in my house, so that's fine.
33:19
Speaker 1: He enjoys basketball season a lot more than many Ohio
33:22
Speaker 1: State fans have, so it's it's worked out fine. So yes,
33:26
Speaker 1: I think there will be plenty of Nick McLardy jerseys
33:28
Speaker 1: sold around the greater Central Ohio area, with or without
33:33
Speaker 1: my kid.
33:34
Speaker 3: There you go.
33:36
Speaker 2: Any new injuries to know about or updates on prior ones?
33:40
Speaker 2: Is Donovan Jackson?
33:41
Speaker 3: Okay, well were you over there for Donovan Jackson?
33:43
Speaker 1: I was over there for some of Donovan Jackson. I
33:45
Speaker 1: did not hear him get asked about an injury. He's
33:50
Speaker 1: My impression is that he's out there still.
33:53
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Justin said he's been out, yes, but
33:56
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like I said, I was playing on
34:00
Speaker 3: watching that after the fact to see what he says,
34:02
Speaker 3: but now I don't. It doesn't seem serious or else
34:06
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have him out. You're talking, correct, that's usually
34:08
Speaker 3: the main signal.
34:09
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, we have we have not seen any indication
34:12
Speaker 1: in terms of he's coming in here without any pads on,
34:16
Speaker 1: and he's wearing he's dressed, he's wearing his braces, he's
34:20
Speaker 1: not in a limited contact jersey. Everything about what we're
34:24
Speaker 1: seeing and hearing right now suggests precautionary. It's the week
34:29
Speaker 1: before the Akron game, you know, it's the week before
34:32
Speaker 1: the week before the Achron game. So there's absolutely no
34:34
Speaker 1: reason to push anything right now other than that the
34:39
Speaker 1: injuries I think have been Yeah, Lorenzo Styles is back,
34:43
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Styles is no longer in a limited contact it's
34:45
Speaker 1: been it's.
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Speaker 3: Been pretty Jaden bondsu is about Oh yeah, that's why. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but even that's not doesn't seem to be serious or
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Speaker 3: anything like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we are not aware of any long term injuries
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Speaker 1: at this point, is probably the best way to say that.
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Speaker 2: It's the longer one from Fort Wayne.
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Speaker 3: For the right guard battle, do you think they'll give
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Speaker 3: Tagra and Carson time with the starters early in the
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Speaker 3: early games or just pick one to go develop chemistry
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Speaker 3: and the other one only plays with the twos.
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Speaker 1: So that's a really good question from Fort Wayne. Will
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Speaker 1: they do the Cad McNamara, JJ McCarthy thing where you
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Speaker 1: can play both guys and it's you've got a couple
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Speaker 1: winnable games at the beginning of the season, so you
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Speaker 1: can play both guys, or do they just pick a
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Speaker 1: guy and say go And if you take Ryan Dade's word,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they've made a decision.
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Speaker 2: Yet on that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think both guys will play. He did
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Speaker 3: say Taker's going to play. I would assume Carson's gonna play.
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Speaker 3: I think the scenario there is that, yeah, they will
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Speaker 3: both play and with the ones and you know, that
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Speaker 3: can be a couple of series in the second quarter,
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Speaker 3: or however you want to do it. You can experiment,
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Speaker 3: you can it's not even experimentation because but it's just
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Speaker 3: getting those guys snaps. I expect that to happen in
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Speaker 3: the first half of at least the first two games,
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Speaker 3: until by then maybe they've got it settled. And because
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Speaker 3: I do think they want to give Carson more runway
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Speaker 3: because he's had such a short road for camp.
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Speaker 1: Right, it's probably not a fair thing to take a
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Speaker 1: guy who was a starter last year and Wally pip
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Speaker 1: him because he had the ick Tony, So you probably
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Speaker 1: it seems like that's probably not going to be a
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Speaker 1: firm and final decision has made this weekend, and that's
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Speaker 1: the guy who's with the ones for the whole rest
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Speaker 1: of the season.
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Speaker 2: And there's no question about any of that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you're it's going to be that kind
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Speaker 1: of a decision, because I think it's probably a relatively
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Speaker 1: close thing. And the fact that it's close and you
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Speaker 1: sort of know you have one of the available pieces
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Speaker 1: of information was this guy was good enough to play
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Speaker 1: as on the interior of the Ohio State offensive line
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Speaker 1: for all of last year and do a pretty good
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Speaker 1: job and has now had.
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Speaker 2: Another year of growth and development.
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Speaker 1: And there's another guy who's about as good as he is,
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Speaker 1: whether slightly ahead or slightly behind.
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Speaker 2: That's good. That means you've got six.
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Speaker 1: Guys now who you are in that probably good enough
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Speaker 1: kind of range.
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Speaker 3: Well, one last thing I'll throw in there. I asked
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Speaker 3: Carson about Luke Montgomery how he's doing a center, and
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Speaker 3: he said, it's pretty sick that Luken snap left handed,
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Speaker 3: and he calls him the hefty lefty. But that's just
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Speaker 3: another guy that is developing who can play pretty much
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Speaker 3: anywhere on the offensive line. To make that top seven
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Speaker 3: a top ten, top eight. You know, like you've got
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Speaker 3: guys that can play multiple positions to make that room
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Speaker 3: even deeper.
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Speaker 1: Hefty lefty, of course, a very popular youth softball cheer
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Speaker 1: for when you have a left handed batter up, Tony,
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Speaker 1: you knew what the opposite of that is.
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Speaker 2: Slighty righty, mighty righty, tony, mighty righty.
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Speaker 3: Actually the opposite would be slighty as opposed to hefty.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm not wrong. That's so unfair anyway.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, please please please let Tony know in the chat
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Speaker 1: if he's wrong.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys all for joining us.
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Speaker 1: We have wrapping up the third straight evening at the
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Speaker 1: Woody Hayes Athletic Center. Next week running game week schedule,
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Speaker 1: the Ohio State foot Buckeyes will be back.
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming Tuesday and noon. Tuesday at noon with.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day and then maybe a coordinator, and then Wednesday
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Speaker 1: evening we generally get a smattering of players and one
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Speaker 1: more chance to talk to Ryan Day after practice on
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Speaker 1: Wednesday and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, it is in Ohio
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Speaker 1: State football game day at Ohio Stadium.
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Speaker 2: Can't believe it's almost here.
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Speaker 1: Eight days away looking forward to that. One thing you
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Speaker 1: may be looking forward to slightly less than that is
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Speaker 1: the Buckeye Weekly preseason Bold Prediction show that will be
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Speaker 2: On YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Uddle.
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Speaker 1: We'll make sure we get a link up there and
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