Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / Why Chefs Need A Mentor Ep. 46
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- 0:00Hello, everyone. You're lifting Two Chefs.
- 0:01Piss a podcast. I'm your host on true that Tara.
- 0:04On today's episode, we're going to discuss mentoring.
- 0:06Stay tuned. So, what have I been up to
- 0:20before we get into mentoring? Let me give you a brief update.
- 0:23What you may notice, if you might be listening to this, but
- 0:25you also may be watching it. I'm in the market skill, studio
- 0:28downtown Dallas. You can see the skyline behind
- 0:30me, possibly drove up to Dallas. Had a lot of fun.
- 0:34I was recording and cooking Series yesterday and I was with
- 0:39with cooking with Tim Maitland for Market skill and we were
- 0:42doing. What would you make it home?
- 0:44So if you're going to watch this, I know you chefs are doing
- 0:46the sale. It's not perfect, it's not a
- 0:47restaurant setting. We rented out of ghosts, Kitchen
- 0:49went in there, did a little cooking demo on how you would
- 0:51cook at home. So before everyone says you
- 0:54didn't do this like you would in a kitchen.
- 0:55I understand that it's cooking how you would cook at home for
- 0:59people at home. So no judgment because I know
- 1:01how chefs are anyway. We had to cancel live-fire.
- 1:04Unfortunately, we made the call whether or not Emily's, but I
- 1:07was really looking forward to is going to be my first ever
- 1:10podcast where I have guessed. Normal is a solo podcast but I
- 1:13thought for this one off, let's have some guests on had a great
- 1:16lineup, unfortunately had to cancel and we talked about This
- 1:19already on the last episode, but hopefully soon, we'll have
- 1:23guest. Maybe we're moving in that
- 1:24direction, chest pass a podcast, eventually, taking over the
- 1:27world. Anyway, we digress.
- 1:29Let's move on to Mentor. I started writing another book
- 1:34but I got a little bit of writer's block, so I'm taking a
- 1:36break, I'm calling it bad sous chef, it was going down One
- 1:39path. Will most likely I'm going to
- 1:40take it a different direction. So it might be a conversation is
- 1:43kind of what I'm thinking, a conversation between a chef and
- 1:46a sous, chef, and maybe like a little Fictional conversation.
- 1:50So we'll see where that goes. I am working on that.
- 1:52The next thing I'm working on and I'll put this out.
- 1:54Hopefully, the next couple of days.
- 1:55I'm making a culinary dictionary of like kitchen jargon words
- 2:00that we use in the kitchen. I noticed that a lot of people
- 2:02message me occasionally and ask me, what?
- 2:04Certain words are that. I that I put in the caption on a
- 2:07chef's PSA. Postal.
- 2:08The said, what is 86 made? And I'm realizing this is a lot
- 2:12of information with a called The Curse of knowledge.
- 2:14A lot of information that I take for granted, a lot of chefs take
- 2:17for granted is that we Know what these terms mean.
- 2:20But when you're a new cook in the industry that you might not
- 2:22know what they mean and you might be too afraid to ask so I
- 2:24thought about creating a short little compendium glossary of
- 2:29terms dictionary for cooks and chefs.
- 2:31That might be new to the industry and might not know the
- 2:33jargon. Maybe you're coming from a
- 2:34different country and you don't know or maybe you're just new to
- 2:37the business. So I'm going to put that up.
- 2:39Give it away for free. I don't want anything for it.
- 2:40I, this is something to benefit cooks and chefs are out there.
- 2:44You can print it. You post in your kitchen, you
- 2:45give it to new hires. Do what you will with it.
- 2:47Let's talk about mentoring. I will say this.
- 2:50I think every Chef needs a mentor and if you don't have a
- 2:53mentor, I think you need to get one.
- 2:56It's like having a cheat code in the business.
- 2:59A mentor should be someone in a position that you aspire to have
- 3:03getting a mentor early on in your career will be a game
- 3:07changer. So I've been very fortunate in
- 3:09the fact that I've had a lot of great mentors throughout my
- 3:12career. My very first culinary school
- 3:15instructor who also happens to be.
- 3:19Culinary school director. Now we've remained in contact
- 3:23since that day. So 27 years ago, I'm in his
- 3:26class. He was my first chef and I was
- 3:29his first student so we've remained in contact.
- 3:32He was a great mentor for me and he's helped me along the way.
- 3:34Still to this day, still to this day, he helps me as well.
- 3:38I've had many chefs along the way, one of the my great chefs.
- 3:41That mentored me. His name was Patrick Mitchell.
- 3:43He's part of The Epicure will MasterChef Society, but he's
- 3:46mentored me a lot and I owe a lot of who I am.
- 3:49I am to him the teaching that he taught me, he inspired me to go
- 3:52into culinary competitions. A lot of rough lessons working
- 3:55with him a lot of good lessons but someone that I admire a lot
- 3:58but I've also had other mentors in industry and and business
- 4:02that have helped me along the way.
- 4:04And I've been fortunate that. I've I feel like I kind of got
- 4:08lucky right? I do have some incredible
- 4:10mentors and I'm a product of their knowledge and I'm hoping
- 4:15one of my biggest things is I'm hoping to pass on a lot of the
- 4:17things that were taught. From my mentors from me to you.
- 4:22Now, if you're a cook just starting out I think you need to
- 4:26think about this is that the mentor that you're looking for,
- 4:28might not necessarily be the person that you're working with
- 4:32next to on the line. And sometimes that's the easy
- 4:35answer because you'll look at them and say, well, they know
- 4:37more than me, they have maybe one or two years more experience
- 4:39than me. They should be my mentor and I
- 4:41would steer away from that. A lot of times when you're
- 4:46selecting a mentor, the person that you should be looking at is
- 4:49the person that's in the position that you aspire to
- 4:51have. So if you're looking at the line
- 4:54cook next to you, that has to Much more experience than you
- 4:56say. I want them to Mentor me.
- 4:58They might only have they can only take you to the point where
- 5:01they are at. So a mentor should be someone
- 5:04that has the experience to get you to where they are.
- 5:06And they can give you a step-by-step plan and guide you
- 5:09when difficulty arises to get to the position that they're in.
- 5:13So, for example, your Mentor is an executive chef, they can tell
- 5:17you how to become an executive chef, the line.
- 5:19Cook next, you can only tell you how to get there above that,
- 5:22it's just Theory. They could, they think they
- 5:24might know how to get there, but they haven't proven it the
- 5:27person that's The net is the person that you want to become
- 5:31your Mentor, ideally, right. So I think you need to have a
- 5:34mentor and so a lot of people ask me, well, how do I get a
- 5:37mentor as difficult as it sounds?
- 5:40It's not that difficult at all. You just ask and a lot of chefs
- 5:44are more than willing to give their time because a lot of
- 5:47chefs, they've achieved a certain amount of status and
- 5:50Prestige and they've had a great career and a lot of times they
- 5:52just want to give back. That's that's something that I
- 5:54do right now. I want to give back to people
- 5:57that want to learn more About the business side of the whole,
- 6:00the whole idea of this podcast in the chef's.
- 6:02PSA socials is so I can give back.
- 6:04So I could educate people on how to become chefs, the shortcut,
- 6:08the cheat code, that they might need back to mentoring.
- 6:11So ask someone to be your Mentor, someone that's in a
- 6:13position that you aspire to have and set up weekly meetings or
- 6:17bi-weekly meetings, our monthly meetings and have have questions
- 6:20for them. So when I schedule Mentor
- 6:23meetings, with people that I mentor and I Mentor a lot of
- 6:25people still to this day, part of my job is To Mentor people.
- 6:29I have a mentoring business as well, but when I Mentor people
- 6:33the first day, I said, so if we have an hour block, as they come
- 6:35prepared with three questions, right?
- 6:38So, part of being a good mentee is to have good questions to
- 6:42ask, and I don't mean, like, what's your favorite color?
- 6:45Like, you don't necessarily need to know what their personal
- 6:49interests are. I think there's a there should
- 6:51be an introduction period there, but when you're having your
- 6:53Mentor mentee meetings, it should be things that you're
- 6:56struggling with that. You might need answers to now.
- 6:58Now they should also help you map out long-term goals and
- 7:01short-term goals. The other thing that I ask
- 7:03people to do what I have mentor-mentee meetings with me
- 7:07is first of all, you need to schedule the appointment.
- 7:09I'm not going to chase you this benefits.
- 7:11You part of being responsible is you need to be the person that
- 7:15schedules it. So you need to be the
- 7:16responsible person that schedules the meeting because it
- 7:19benefits. You, it's in your best interest
- 7:20to show the initiative that you want to take this, right?
- 7:23So that's also something that's very important.
- 7:25And then, when I have mentor-mentee meetings, I always
- 7:27assigned them with some sort of uncomfortable homework that I
- 7:30want them to do and that could be all sorts of random shit that
- 7:34I tell my mentee sometimes, sometimes they think I'm crazy.
- 7:37It's like go punch. Someone in the face.
- 7:38Figuratively not literally just so they could address any issues
- 7:42that they may have. With confidence a good Mentor
- 7:44will find your weaknesses and learn how to extract the
- 7:48confidence that you need to overcome those weaknesses.
- 7:50And that's really what you need in a mentor because someone
- 7:54needs to believe in you and be able to see the things that you
- 7:56are see what's possibly holding you back and help you get over
- 8:00those humps. But not do it for you.
- 8:02It's kind of like they have to teach you how to think they have
- 8:04to teach you how to think strategically and how to
- 8:07overcome difficulty, but they don't necessarily have to drag
- 8:11you to the finish line. That's your job.
- 8:13So that's the way a mentor-mentee relationship
- 8:17should go. Now, I'll tell you a story with,
- 8:20with one of my mentors. And this is something that
- 8:23something that stuck with me, throughout my career, that I
- 8:27didn't understand. And this is where the mentors
- 8:29come in Luke. I'm sure two stories with you.
- 8:32The first one when I was a young naive, hungry, cook, and didn't
- 8:38know much in my mentor said to me if I gave you a strawberry
- 8:41and you To do in a cucumber grew.
- 8:44He says your mind would not comprehend and things would
- 8:47start to unravel. He says but then if you took
- 8:50that cucumber and you planted it and a watermelon, grew your
- 8:54whole idea of how the world Works would collapse, and it
- 8:58would be chaos and you would go crazy.
- 9:00I didn't understand what he meant.
- 9:01I was like. This is this is some weird
- 9:04Confucius, Canaan, Kung Fu nonsense.
- 9:07I don't know what you mean. Just tell me what you need to
- 9:08tell me, but I understood it later on.
- 9:12It took me many. Any years probably took me 20
- 9:14years to figure out what he meant.
- 9:15And what he meant was is that sometimes life doesn't go your
- 9:20way and you plant a strawberry, but you get a cucumber.
- 9:25So meaning you've done everything the right way, but
- 9:27something bad happens. You following all the recipes
- 9:30your career is on a high. But yet your restaurant closes,
- 9:33right? And you don't understand.
- 9:35Well, if I did everything, right, why did I get this
- 9:37different result? Why did I plant a strawberry?
- 9:39But get a cucumber and then you say, okay, well, that doesn't
- 9:42make sense. Then you plan to the cucumber
- 9:44and you get a watermelon and out what that meant was.
- 9:46Okay, so then my restaurant closes so it must have been a
- 9:50one off. So I do it again and then I fail
- 9:52again and then your whole world falls apart and he was advising
- 9:56me for the difficulty that may come.
- 9:57And it was an interesting way of him articulating it, but it was
- 10:01one of those things that sometimes, the advice that your
- 10:03Mentor will give you might not make sense in the moment, but it
- 10:06will make sense, 10, 15, 20 years later and then you're
- 10:09like, aha. Now I understand, but I'm also
- 10:11prepared to Overcome the difficulty that was presented.
- 10:15So that's one story. Another story I'll share with
- 10:17you that a mentor gave to me was I was very humble and I was on a
- 10:24career trajectory that was on a steep incline and everything was
- 10:29going good in my career and they told me be humble, don't get too
- 10:33puffed up because your ego will get the best of you.
- 10:36I was like, what are you talking about?
- 10:37I'm super humbled, I'm a kind person.
- 10:39I don't have an ego. Life has a way of humbling you
- 10:43because my ego did kick in and eventually everything that I had
- 10:47built just collapsed no there was no one else to blame my
- 10:51fault. I wish I could blame someone
- 10:54else. It would have been easier if I
- 10:55could blame someone else. But ultimately, the
- 10:57responsibility falls on you see old example of the fish stinks
- 11:00from the head which is not true fish.
- 11:02Don't secret had, but the saying is true, the fish stinks from
- 11:04the head. Is it from a self accountability
- 11:07standpoint? There was no one else.
- 11:10That was to blame for my failures other than me and my
- 11:13mentor warned me and they saw the direction that I was going
- 11:16in. Something that I didn't see
- 11:17myself and I didn't listen. And so, I guess the point of all
- 11:22of this is I go back now and I still talk to my mentors.
- 11:26And I asked him for guidance. Now, in better student, I'll
- 11:28tell you that but the mentor should hopefully guide you to
- 11:33get there but they don't want to baby you and prevent you from
- 11:37making mistakes some mistakes, you need experience in some, you
- 11:40need to experience by watching some some mistakes unique
- 11:43experience by watching someone else fail, but some failures you
- 11:46need to do on your own and that would overall be.
- 11:49My lesson today is you need a mentor that is going to guide
- 11:52you and help you overcome failure.
- 11:55But don't don't avoid failure, because failure is what's going
- 11:58to strengthen you and carry you on to success.
- 12:01Every failure is a step in the right direction and I wouldn't
- 12:04even call it a failure. Might want to call it learning,
- 12:06but whatever, we're talking semantics anyway.
- 12:10If you're interested in learning more about mentoring, feel free
- 12:13to reach out to me. You can DM me on Instagram, you
- 12:15go to Chef PS, a.com, and learn more.
- 12:18I do think that I'm not saying that you need me as your Mentor,
- 12:21but you do need a mentor. So you need to find one whether
- 12:23it's in culinary. Whether it's another Chef that
- 12:26you admire, whether it is someone that is in a separate
- 12:30business, but really understands business, or just life in
- 12:33general, right? You need a coach, you need a
- 12:35mentor. Like I said, it's like having a
- 12:37cheat code, so make sure you get one.
- 12:40That's it for today. If you want to support chefs
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