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Best of the Bus: Patriots Training Camp Tour Ft. Mike Vrabel, Drake Maye & More · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, ladies, gentle When this is episode three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and forty one, A bus with the boys, we are
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  Speaker 1: officially in our training camp tour. The first stop the
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  Speaker 1: New England Patriots. We had Drake May, Matt Collins, Robert Spullane,
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  Speaker 1: and Mike Rabel himself. He comes back on what is
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  Speaker 1: now known as a pseudo bus. We check out the practice,
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  Speaker 1: we hang out. They have treated us like absolute kings
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  Speaker 1: during this whole entire thing. They've been They've been amazing
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  Speaker 1: and if you like this hat bwtv dot com you
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  Speaker 1: can get all the merch there also September nineteenth live
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  Speaker 1: show at Rococo Theater in Lincoln, Nebraska, right before the
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  Speaker 1: most prestigious trophy game in all of college football, The
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  Speaker 1: Bust and Bull. We'll see you guys there, Bake hugs,
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  Speaker 1: Tandy kisses. Please enjoy this fun episode.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, we're good. You like go.
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  Speaker 3: Busting with the bus, hanging with the.
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  Speaker 2: Betting on a game. No woman's gonna tell us what
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  Speaker 2: not be. We're here.
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  Speaker 3: Just drinking beer making that No baby, I'm hanging with
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  Speaker 3: the feelers, busting with the boys, bro, everything.
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  Speaker 4: Was ready, we got yeah, okay, ready to go, just
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  Speaker 4: talking brave stories like the hat.
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  Speaker 2: We got a hat. You can leave me with a hat.
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  Speaker 4: You're not a big head guy.
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  Speaker 2: It might be I like the rope.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get you, We'll get you.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Carter likes him. Do you remember what you said to
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  Speaker 1: me when you when I was late for tea meeting
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  Speaker 1: one time?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god you're rich. And then what happened? I
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  Speaker 2: find you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no other words were that's it.
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  Speaker 2: It was good. We moved on and so we're here.
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  Speaker 2: We were early. I to be I was on time.
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  Speaker 2: Nine to twenty, Stacy, nine to twenty. Thank you, Stacey.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Busting with the Boys again. Dude, third time,
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  Speaker 2: there's a charm.
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  Speaker 4: Good to see you back on your feet.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well I don't think that was ever off my feet,
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  Speaker 5: but well, Tennessee, Yeah, there.
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  Speaker 1: Was like a little Browns consultant, consultant.
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  Speaker 2: We've all been fired. Yeah, shit canned.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get scared now. Ye ask the hard stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back on my feet.
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  Speaker 1: What took place in that conversation that led because when
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  Speaker 1: the season ended everyone's like Brave was gonna get extension.
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  Speaker 1: The rumor is that Braves is now going to go
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  Speaker 1: from an eighth sheet to actually have a little more
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  Speaker 1: of a GM role as well, maybe a little more
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  Speaker 1: power in the building. And then you walked into a
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  Speaker 1: meeting and you walk down though I can know.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't a meeting. That those aren't meetings. You just
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  Speaker 2: get fired.
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  Speaker 1: They just called you and fired you.
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  Speaker 2: No, you walk upstairs. Yeah, you just handle it.
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  Speaker 5: I just said give me an hour and I'll be
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  Speaker 5: out of here. I want to talk to my staff.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you. You wouldn't be a fun guy
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  Speaker 4: to to fire.
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  Speaker 5: No, it was meant again, they make everybody makes decisions,
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  Speaker 5: and uh I any question. No, I got thet I
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  Speaker 5: got the point, So get the drift.
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  Speaker 1: So there was never like a hey, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think could have happened differently?
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  Speaker 5: No, no that at that point. No, there was no Again,
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  Speaker 5: it was no discussion. I heard the message and I
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  Speaker 5: just said, give me an hour. I like to talk
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  Speaker 5: to my staff and I'll box my stuff up.
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  Speaker 4: Just spin the cup. How close were you to coaching
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  Speaker 4: in college, because there are rumors.
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  Speaker 2: Throughout not very close, not very clear.
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  Speaker 4: There are rumors about you potentially being the defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 4: at Remember when I texted you, I was like, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: no interest.
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  Speaker 2: And what I text I'd even text back.
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  Speaker 4: Or no, I forget what you No?
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  Speaker 2: Not very close. No.
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  Speaker 5: And I love time in Cleveland. Yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 5: love being on the offensive side of the ball. I
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  Speaker 5: loved just getting back to coaching. Helped the old ligne.
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  Speaker 5: You'd have loved it.
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  Speaker 1: You were in there all the time telling guys to
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  Speaker 1: wall off on the backside of duo, getting just getting
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  Speaker 1: the way in.
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  Speaker 2: Backside, inside out, deuce, near foot.
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  Speaker 4: It was there anything during that time with Cleveland? You
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  Speaker 4: got to have it there at leverage.
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  Speaker 2: Man reach, you take them on an angle, you find them.
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  Speaker 1: Are you running the same offense in Cleveland?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? There were some similarities. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Was there a time like just having that year in
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland to where you found or reignited some passion that
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  Speaker 4: you had that when you were you were at first
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  Speaker 4: head coach, all the expectations, all the pressure, and then
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  Speaker 4: you kind of just go into a consulting role and
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  Speaker 4: kind of having more fun around Cleveland.
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  Speaker 5: I think that that's probably there's some truth to that.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's some reality to that. I think you
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  Speaker 5: realize that you miss it, you know, and that you
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  Speaker 5: want to do it, that there's nothing else that you
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  Speaker 5: want to do.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have What do you feel like you learned
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  Speaker 4: from the first time as a head coach now coming
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  Speaker 4: into New England.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think we learned stuff every day.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just there's gonna be things that come
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  Speaker 5: up every day. Situation, injuries, you know. I mean we
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  Speaker 5: always talk about distractions are unavoidable. It's how we we
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  Speaker 5: handle them. And so just staying flexible, staying consistent, you know,
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  Speaker 5: focusing on the guys that want to improve, that are
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  Speaker 5: taking a message, and those things that sometimes I let
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  Speaker 5: the you know, the small majority affect all all the
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  Speaker 5: other positive stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd always say, you can't fuck up my Friday, but.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes they try. No, I mean they tried, Taylor tried,
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  Speaker 5: and all everybody tried.
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  Speaker 2: I think sometimes.
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  Speaker 5: I probably did. But it was a good message. It
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  Speaker 5: was a good tagline.
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  Speaker 2: How did you do that?
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  Speaker 1: Development of you and Jamis Winston running at the start
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  Speaker 1: of every.
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  Speaker 5: Practice, So they would go routes on air, right, and
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  Speaker 5: then they would go and I was like, I can
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I could push these guys a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: just goofing around.
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  Speaker 2: I'd wait till the last guy throwing take off.
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  Speaker 5: Running and just trying to have some fun down there
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  Speaker 5: in the Greenbrier down in West Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen what a spirit that guy has?
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ever met a guy you think.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, two three days in this is
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  Speaker 5: a stick, right, yeah? Three five second a week, two weeks.
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  Speaker 5: You're like, it's impossible to stay in character this long.
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  Speaker 1: This is actually really this guy is all time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, now this is just a stick, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, nope, this is I loved Its awesome.
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  Speaker 4: When did it feel like New England was going to
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  Speaker 4: be a real possibility for you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean just going through the process of interviewing
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  Speaker 2: and having he's doing teams reach out, he's doing right
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  Speaker 2: now the coach talk.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think after the after the season,
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  Speaker 5: like that's when it heats up, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 5: That's when people.
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  Speaker 4: Call how about this?
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  Speaker 2: How about this?
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  Speaker 4: So we get so because the coach Yeah, yeah, the
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  Speaker 4: interview process, everything else. Then give are you leaving a
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  Speaker 4: good inn? Are you leaving like after you have a
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  Speaker 4: good interview, and you're just thinking, man, what if I
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  Speaker 4: become the head coach of the Patriots? Hey, three banners
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  Speaker 4: up there. You reminded us all the time to work.
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't the league. You're not in every single
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  Speaker 2: cheer in this meeting with you guys. You guys rejuice
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, just stay in front of your guys.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: What do I know I've done before?
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  Speaker 2: No, that is not true.
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  Speaker 1: Myself imperserrate that.
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  Speaker 2: But but what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: But legit? Legit, like whether you're flying back or you're
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  Speaker 4: driving and you're just thinking, what if I'm the head
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  Speaker 4: coach of the New England Patriots?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that that goes through. And
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  Speaker 5: I think that the timing was right. And had opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to come back here probably prior as an assistant, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't feel like that was something that I wanted to
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  Speaker 5: do or that was what was best for me at
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  Speaker 5: that particular time. And then I think the time was
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  Speaker 5: was right.
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  Speaker 1: Was the interview process a little bit different with the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots because you have the relationship with Craft called them up,
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  Speaker 1: say hey, what do you think?
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  Speaker 5: No, I mean, they were all about they were all
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  Speaker 5: about the same. Yeah, I mean as far as actually
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  Speaker 5: I met with Chicago, met with the Jets, and then
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  Speaker 5: met with the Patriots, and had talked to other teams,
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  Speaker 5: but didn't end up taking those interviews.
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  Speaker 1: Did any other teams offer you.
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  Speaker 2: Offer without an interview?
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  Speaker 1: No, like you end up talking to those couple of
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  Speaker 1: other teams.
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  Speaker 5: Oh No, I mean I think that that after meeting here,
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  Speaker 5: I think that it happened pretty quick over the next
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  Speaker 5: couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: When you go out to practice and it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fans can come in the gen pops watching, they're excited.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever hear anything about the twenty nineteen season
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  Speaker 1: when you Bill Belichick's Bill Belichick?
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  Speaker 5: No, I mean I don't hear anything about that specifically
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  Speaker 5: from the fans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I meant people are excited.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad that they're excited and they come out and
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  Speaker 5: it's it's a good environment. We had a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: fans in the stadium on Friday. That'd be a bunch
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  Speaker 5: up there today. They heard you guys were coming.
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  Speaker 4: They did, Yeah, they did tweet.
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  Speaker 2: I hooked up with your boy Frank. You ever interview
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  Speaker 2: Frank the Tank? Yeah? Yeah, how smart?
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  Speaker 4: He's an encyclopedia.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was like just couth.
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  Speaker 4: Times you're walking, You're like where you know, where might
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  Speaker 4: this go?
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  Speaker 2: We just talked sports.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is an encyclopedia.
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  Speaker 2: Knew everything about all the about the ages that I
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  Speaker 2: grew up in brown back then.
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  Speaker 4: Every crazy everything that was fun.
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  Speaker 2: What else? Kids? Everybody good?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's great. Man, everybody's great. You've done what you've done?
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  Speaker 2: It too? Or how many more? We haven't.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, we're up in the air right now. But we're
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  Speaker 4: open to a third one. We're open to a third one.
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  Speaker 2: I was the La Wan crew. Do you guys go
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  Speaker 2: to Canada?
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  Speaker 1: Went to Canada? Just got back on the twenty first win.
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  Speaker 1: Willow turned eight and five. So when does wash Harry
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  Speaker 1: Potter for the first time? Yesterday before we gotten the plane.
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  Speaker 2: What's that maker set? Third grade? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Third well, second grade.
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  Speaker 2: Second grade?
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  Speaker 5: Hold back, held her back, the little one, little wand brain.
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  Speaker 2: Starts reading a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I said, I think to myself, and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do you the favor that never happened for me,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna hold you back a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Good get you there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's tough. Because you risk you go again.
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  Speaker 4: You get three girls. It's Tony Do Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and he's.
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  Speaker 1: The guy that chased. He was obviously chasing the boy
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  Speaker 1: got the twos.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do one more. Yeah, we'll have a little football player,
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  Speaker 2: okay or not?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and again yeah, kids, just get it right like
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  Speaker 1: you did the first time and second.
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  Speaker 2: Time and the second time. The boys. Tyler's actually a
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  Speaker 2: BC helping out O line in turn.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you helped out in the spring and then
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  Speaker 5: they asked him to come back help for the season.
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  Speaker 2: So he's grinding, figuring out that figuring out the old
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  Speaker 2: uh grind.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like just the whole like you know, when you play,
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  Speaker 5: you you don't worry about you see the diagrams, right,
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  Speaker 5: you don't realize where those run diagrams came from or
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  Speaker 5: where the defense?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right. And so it's on visio and he's like that.
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  Speaker 5: The first time I said, hey, all the film all
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  Speaker 5: these cards on visio, he goes, I was there for
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  Speaker 5: four hours. I think I got three cards done. He's like,
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  Speaker 5: there's got to be a better way for this. And
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  Speaker 5: then he figured it out, and you know, and then
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  Speaker 5: Carter's back in Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: How often is Tyler looking for a job? What is
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  Speaker 2: he doing? He looks looking for a job.
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  Speaker 5: He graduated from Tennessee Tech, played baseball, and uh is
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  Speaker 5: looking for a job.
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  Speaker 2: The pats. No, he's not coming. He's not leaving Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: He's not saying you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, he ain't trying to get No.
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  Speaker 2: He he loves Nashville. He killed me up here for
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  Speaker 2: the games. But he just a room.
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  Speaker 1: He went for a summer and was like hanging out.
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  Speaker 1: He would it was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: He know, he's passed chasing jocks around everything else, laundry.
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  Speaker 2: Is Tyler?
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  Speaker 4: Does he pick your brain a lot on the.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he was asking about coverages.
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  Speaker 5: As an offensive lineman, I think as a young one,
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  Speaker 5: you don't really worry too much about coverage, and now
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  Speaker 5: that he's drawing cards, he just wants to know, you know,
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  Speaker 5: coverages and rotation and whether the week's safety is down
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  Speaker 5: or the week's safeties suring. Is he outside the end?
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  Speaker 5: You know, all the things that we would talk about.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think he's just understanding the game. I
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  Speaker 5: think he's excited about helping young players. He was a
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  Speaker 5: developmental player and so he's like, I get to work
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  Speaker 5: with the threes. There's some young guys that I think
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  Speaker 5: have potential, So I think that there's some excitement there
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  Speaker 5: from from helping those guys.
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  Speaker 4: Does he want to coach coach with you one day?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about that, you know, I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: just I think he wants to see if he wants
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  Speaker 5: to coach and if he's willing to go on this journey.
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  Speaker 1: What was the conversation like with him, because I was
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  Speaker 1: before before we're going, I was trying to catch up
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  Speaker 1: on what he was up to. Huh, And I just
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  Speaker 1: saw that July thirtieth, he was on injury reserve in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I assumed, like, okay, he's out.
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  Speaker 5: So he and Tyler just decided that he didn't want
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  Speaker 5: to do to practice squad again. That had been his,
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  Speaker 5: you know, his decision, and again I that's that was
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  Speaker 5: his path, and I think he realized that he you know,
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  Speaker 5: missed football, loved football, wanted to be around it, and
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  Speaker 5: finished his degree and in the process of doing that
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  Speaker 5: helped out in the spring, and then you know, they
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  Speaker 5: asked him to come back for the season.
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  Speaker 1: Was there any type of conversation between you and him
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  Speaker 1: where you're like, yeah, I know, you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: the practice squad again.
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  Speaker 2: There was there was like a coach and a dad conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Gotta wear different hats. I'm sure that was a tough
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  Speaker 1: for you to go back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: Well it wasn't. I think a while ago it had.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I told you there were some things that
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  Speaker 5: I regretted, you know, growing up when they were growing up.
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  Speaker 5: There was things that I regretted the way that I
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  Speaker 5: handled it and was, you know, borderline embarrassed with things that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just not being able to differentiate the coach
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  Speaker 5: and the being demanding. And then Dad and so, by
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  Speaker 5: the grace of God, got past that and had another opportunity,
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  Speaker 5: and so it was a good conversation. It was, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: here's what I would say to you as from a
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  Speaker 5: coaching perspective.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I would say to you as a dad.
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  Speaker 5: And so he made his decision and I think he's
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  Speaker 5: really happy about it, and uh, you know see where
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: this goes. This coaching thing goes for him. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 5: Tyler dude, Oh he don't, Yeah, he's harmless.
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  Speaker 2: The other one the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna catch fire here.
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  Speaker 5: So plenty of ink and there you know. I mean
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  Speaker 5: they they love the ink guy. I mean they could
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  Speaker 5: thank Taylor for for hooking him up. Joey, Right, joe
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  Speaker 5: here's in town this past week.
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  Speaker 6: He is right.
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  Speaker 4: Anytime Joey's in town, I feel like Carter's over there.
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  Speaker 1: So at first it was I think you were like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Carter wants to get some mank you got a guy.
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  Speaker 1: He comes in right, So we kind of got them
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  Speaker 1: hooked up, and then eventually it became Joey text me
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  Speaker 1: and be like, Hey, I'm coming into Nashville for a weekend.
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  Speaker 2: What you're doing here is like Tyler had him come
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  Speaker 2: to Atlanta too for a couple of guys.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Joey's just out there doing mercenary work for
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  Speaker 1: other guys.
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  Speaker 4: I got a question for you. You are you're big
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  Speaker 4: on culture and painting a clear vision, whether it's a
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: weekly game plan or whether you're coming in for the
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: first time as a head coach and kind of painting
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: how the organization is going to be. What is the
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: best advice you've received on building culture, whether you've been
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: a fly on the wall witnessing something, or you've kind
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: of learned in conversation with the former Code.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Uh, here's what I've learned.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: I've learned that we can have different personalities, we can't
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: have different mentalities, and sometimes what's that buddy, that's a bar?
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: I just sometimes get caught up that we don't that
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: that people may be different than me. I think I
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: struggled with that early on, and and now I've realized
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: that if the mentality is the same how they maybe
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: act off the field or what their personality is, or
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: they may not be you know, I would say that
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: we all kind of have this similar personality right pretty close,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: but there's a lot of people and players that are
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: successful that don't. And I have to be okay with
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: that if ultimately their mentality is about the culture that
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: that we want to have here, And I think that's
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: what I've learned.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Would you say that's what you've learned, is that growing
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: pace as a head coach is that more earlier in
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: your assistant coaching.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: No, I mean I think as a head like as
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: a head coach, right, whether it's you know, just players
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: that have different persons now he's but still got their
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: job done and did it the way that we asked
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: them to do it. You have to be okay with
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: you know kind of what their vibe is just walking
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: around let them. Yeah, they got to be them.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: You excited to have CARDI be a couple of games
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought that. I don't know. I
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: haven't seen her yet. I haven't. Well, I'm sure we'll double.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Sure you are Friday out there.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: There's a level of excitement when you heard one of
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: your players dating a famous lady, like, oh, we have
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: our own Taylor Swift.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I guess so, I mean, I don't you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I don't you.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: See the revenue from this past year sixteen billion extra
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: in revenue. Yeah, and I started trending upwards in Kansas City.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: When you know, I don't know. I mean, I'll see that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I mean I try to meet everybody's family that comes,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: and a lot of people come out.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: If she's here, I'll say hi. I don't see how
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: that goes fair enough?
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: You there was a big we talked about this on
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the podcast. Is twenty eighteen Rapes was a lot different
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: than twenty twenty two rapes. What vrabel are? You are
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the Newland Patriots players getting are like because you go
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: walk into a place that has those banners on the Wallay.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Somewhere between those two.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think you just learn and again
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: you're just trying to set things and make sure that
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: again there's there's an individual role that the players trying
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: to create, and then there's the the idea of building
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: a team, and I have to try to combine those two, right,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: So do you evaluate treatment and culture those things like
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: if you.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Walked in the Titans facility and the culture was very
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like all over the place, very sporadic. We didn't really
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: have an identity of who we were when you walked
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: into here, was there? Like, did you get the same
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: sense of like culture?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I needed to.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: I felt like it was important to make sure that
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: all those systems and the programs and everybody around the
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: players was sound, right, that that was there was a
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: structure there, that the support systems was sound and cleaned up.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: And then we focused on the players, you know, because
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: the players aren't.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Around in February.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Everybody's gone, so it's like operations and and video and
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: equipment and training and player engagement, all these things that
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: were set up that I wanted the players when they
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: came back that they were you know, they were they
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: liked what they saw. They believed in the program that
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: we were building. And then and then now we're we're
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: focused on the on the football side of it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: When you're going and you get the call and you're like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the head coach of the New England Patriots.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Were you essentially like Ron Bergen getting the band back
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: together when you went and got stretched and Frank and
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: all the boys popping up, rolled over, rolling.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Over, and I was, you know, some of those guys
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: you can get. Some of them you can't. Some guys
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: are under contract. But again, those people are important to
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: me and I hope to the players we had.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: They were part of our success.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: And certainly, you know Stretches, he already has had a
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: feature article in the Boston Globe.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: There's another one coming down the pipe. I heard.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: He's starting to feel himself a little bit right next
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to yours. He's looking for a window.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: He's getting a window. We're building a new building. You
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: got a window next door.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: That article came out.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Those are his demands, but no, he's he's, uh, you
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: know how important Stretches and the best you know, Frank
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: and and and Ryan and all the assistant coaches were
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: able to get Big Tea and Hass. I think Hass
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: does a fantastic job. The old line room has got
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: three good coaches in there. So just trying to give
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: the players everything that they need. And you know, we're
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: big on connection and we think that's important and and
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: hopefully we can continue to do that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: How about Bob Splaine, Bobby getting another stint with Bobsplaine,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: him being undrafted.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I told him the other day. I told him the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: other day.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I was like, I said, after you knocked the ship
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: out of Derek, I said, if.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: You stop hitting. He's like, what do you tell you?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Get serious?
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: You remember when he smoked Derek on and so then
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I was like, actually smoked Derek. I said, you haven't
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: hit anybody since then. He's like, what do you I
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: was like, dude, I said, you're too easy man, just
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: for that because I was just He's like, you try
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: to get my blood.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Pressure on all the time.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: But that's been awesome to see he signed what like
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: a thirty three million dollars deal.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean everybody's got their own journey to the
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: National Football League and.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: You've used Yeah, we don't care how you got here.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: All we came about is what you do when you're here.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I cut your aspect.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: It was a rookie mini camp tryout. Yeah, and those
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: are like you're doing those. It's like favors, Like get
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: the guy a hat and a T shirt and send
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: him on his way.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And now here he is.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Just came in doing his thing. Contract got Harold. Who
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is Jack?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Doctor Gibbons, doctor doctor Gibby.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's crazy? Now we have a Gibson and a Gibbons.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: We have Antonio Gibson. So it's Gibby and doctor Gibby.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Jack's got the doctors. Get every answer in the book that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: You Every year around this time you pop up a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: film this ship that gets you beat film from the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: year prior. What are like three or four key plays
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you saw on last season that you pull up in
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the screen. You're like, guys, this is the ship that
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: gets you beat.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, not being able to take advantage of bad football, right,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: two minute execution, those are big ones.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Guys throwing the ball to the.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Official, you know, celebrating after a gain as the clocks
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: ticking and you're thirty yards from field goal range, ball security, right,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: all those things. I mean, it's the same stuff. It
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: is the same, the same stuff. Just try to build
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: an identity around our effort in a way that we finish,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: you know, I think Taylor will remember it's hard to
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: finish when you're looking back for the ball or you're
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: directing traffic and all those things.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: We talk about it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: But taking care of the football right, being able to
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: take care of football. I still think fundamentals are important.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I think technique is important, offensive lines of technical position,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: you know, and then again, whether it's don't do dumb
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: shit to hurt the team or a softer, gentler version
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: is making great decisions on and off the field.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: We had some opportunities to have a scrimmage on Friday.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Guys got excited, you know, taunting three fifteen yards, pointing
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: in somebody's face, you know, throwing the guns up, all
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: that stuff, just things that you know, it would just
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: it's hard to be that good for all that stuff
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: to not matter. That stuff has to matter, and we'll
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: get there. I'm confident that we will.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: There's always some good Friday tape.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not there yet. We're so far from Friday tape,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: just because you know, we're at the ground floor yeah,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: you know, we'll break out. The first one, we we
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: did have a good meeting.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: We split the teams up.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: We had a draft, and we put together like a
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: draft reveal, right for this scrimmage off Friday night. We
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: had like a draft reveal. So we split the coaches up,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: had two separate head coaches. They drafted stretching. I were
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: like the commissioners of the draft, and then they had
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: we put all these funny pictures of these guys from
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: high school and all this other stuff. And I was
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: like Johnny Carson going through like on the reveal, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: they had the draft music, and I mean, the guys
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: had fun like something. Remember when you didn't know if
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I was like joking or not joking. So I would
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: be like, you can laugh.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It's like we're still at the stage.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: We're still there where I'm like that if it's funny, laugh,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: And I mean I kind of go back and forth
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: and they're not sure when I go to the joke,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: so I let it loose.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: The other day, a lot of laughs.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: And it was because you'll be caught in the middle
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: of a you're breaking down film and team meetings and
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: your roast, and then it's like you know, you're like
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: holding in your laughter because like this is a serious moment.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Then when you throw a joke, it's like, yeah, then
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: laugh right.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Because you will. You do like to flip on a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: dime on a swim, Right, you'd be like, Taylor, what
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: were we doing here? We pay you how much? I'm like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: this is awful. You're terrible and everyone terrible, and you'll
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: be like saying all these things. You'll be like doing
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: your podcast with your boy will right, Well, yeah, what
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: do we what are we doing? So you get it's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: a it's it's a process. It's a process.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: How many shows are you guys traveling a lot? Oh?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Where were you before this?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: So we had some time off.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: We we knocked out tight ending you at the last
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: week of gym, and so then I went to Canada.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: You guys were basically the ball boys for that thing.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Weren't you run around? Yeah? Whatever they needed.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Water, No job too big, no job too small.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: I mean it just looked like, I mean, every every
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: clip you guys were there like with water towels.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: It was hot.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: We're there to serve, man.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I looked like it you were serving. We're giving back
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: to the youth ball washing.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: You said, Taylor, so is gonna be there here?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: We can we can we hang out, we can hang up,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: we can.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Open we can sure, we'll go cameras there. Okay, good?
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Can we bring Yeah?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And then what other teams you've been to? Any other teams?
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: You're first one.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Then we got made the voyage. Uh, this is it
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Virgin territory.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: He was always once. Once you got hired, it was circled.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: We gotta get it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: It's funny back up, like all you have to do
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: is just text daddy.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'll text you back. Whether you guys can come, that's jokes.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: But we met the draft. We we texted or we
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: met Victoria out at the draft. She was awesome, Veronica. Oh, Veronica,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: It's our Hey, you're gonna you're gonna muscle through that.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: But we met them at the draft and they were
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: really excited. They were obviously seemed like you may have
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: been talking about saying some nice things.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So we were like, I showed that clip.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Where will you showed them the clip that I sent
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: about the cost fumble on the goal line?
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I told him about it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't run a meeting and show them. I wanted to,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: but you showed the team.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't show the team though.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You showed any man reaches. Yeah, man reaches from like.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like we had a POD's drill in there.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not good then yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Oh you know what, it showed a fit drill and
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and you got over extended and you got jerked.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Remember the FID drill though rock set.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Which we can be honest with you now that we're
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: on the other side. Yeah, I think that's a dumb drill.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I don't. I think the past is good, right because.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Again you're staying level. I'm never in the special.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: No, you're talking about not on the not on the cutoff,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: not on like just the rock set right where we
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: snap out.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Also also a dumb drill.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Again because you got over extend ended and then got jerked.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a dumb drill. Its bad techniques because if
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: you and I are.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Both going at each other, we're going and we're fitting
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and then we're setting. But they already know what's happening,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and then as soon as I say it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Right, but I didn't say get over extended, didn't get
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: no shoulders out over the.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Create hands and side.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: The jerk and the transition, and you on my you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: on my base to be a little wit. But yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of a yeah you were kind
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of not over your skis over.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: But you did show did you show any man reaches?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we showed you could do this?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You did? Yeah, a couple of pools out on the corner.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: His highlights were like talking ship to a corner back
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: that was thirty five years old. Yeah, run it again,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: tell her we can only run so many toss cracks.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Again. I don't know how you get on the corner. Sorry,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you get on the corner. Truck
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: get over. We're going to get you on the task.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Many times. You have to walk the end a couple
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of times.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's not left. Yeah. All I loved it
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: perimeter playing man, It was just fun to kind of
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: be out there feel like an athlete for a little bit.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: It was nice.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: What have you seen from remember that the tie Sambrello
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: four I cut off. I was like, this is how
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: we're supposed to do it. Everybody actually great on the four.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I know, great on the four. I So we're showing
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: some of that. We showed you on the backside. Thanks
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: getting vertical. You know, Cincinnati stretch cut behind you.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, you know you just I just don't
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: call you and tell you every time.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: You just hope you made enough.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Showed Will Slice in the seven clinic tape.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: He didn't think to catch the ball playing slice in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the seven real quick for the viewers that are sitting.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Here just transitioning out job, we were mugged up too.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: We were down to the line of scrimmage and they
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: had you know, it was double double near a gun
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: or weeks side side and running back went flat. So
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: you just know, is about the run of seven round
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: we're in ot we're trying to make We're trying to
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: win this game. Yeah, third down and around the sticks.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Once I saw the flat rode, I'm like, oh, I'm
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: going to slice up under Sam Inside, I'm trying to
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: go through the low hip to slice underneath the tight end.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Slice it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Ball hits me in the hands, I drop it. However,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: third down we're off the field, we go down. Corey
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Davis catches a touchdown.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: We all celebrate in the corner for.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, the boys.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: That was crazy. Yeah, that game.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: What you need to do Mitch on that clip is
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: you just need to have it on faces he was
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: talking because you could just see the smile. Will Is
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: explaining the tires. Yeah, proud, very proud.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: But we had You've.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Heard the story of his his recruiting trip, right, we
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: had breakfast at the hotel, and then we basically did
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: the deal I was thinking about. You know, we basically
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: negotiated that contract over breakfast, me and you an agent, right, yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: but it just it wasn't a very big contract.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: That was the most the most I had in my
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: career though.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that was bad season.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were thrown out. Nichols was in the first round.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting at a bar in German Town. I'm like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: fuck me, yeah, yeah, I don't know what time.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: It is going back to the draft. Ye, and I'm
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: sure I'll get a very probably, Yeah, I'll get the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: answer we're probably all expecting to get.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: When the A. J.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Brown trade happened. Yeah, there you see the video, you
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: see you stand.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Up, I mean listen that that is.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But also before as long as I'm the head coach
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of this team major.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: But I didn't want to obviously, nobody wanted to have
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: him walk out of there, you know, I mean the
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: contractual terms weren't going to you know, it just it
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: didn't work out, and it's disappointing.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: The thing that I am most proud.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Of is just still the relationship with AJ and players
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: that I've coached, whether it be you guys or or
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: other players that you know, continue to to text or
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: check in on or just think about when they're in
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: the summer or what they're doing, or their families or
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: you see that they're having kids. Like I think that's
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: that's important, and I'm glad that that's still something that
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: that that happens, right, that there's still some sort of
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: relationship after, you know, after coaching them.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Allegedly, there's some footage out there of Will Campbell. You're
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: getting put on your back from a Will Campbell.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Happened.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm almost fifty, I'll be fifty, and I
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: don't know, twelve days, ten days.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Did you expect that though?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: No?
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I just you know, I mean it was a four eye, right,
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: I was going into four eye and it was the
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: backside cut off and he got going and I caught
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: my foot. I didn't get my second step in the ground,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Like what am I gonna do. I'll back up like
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: we were getting knocked out.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I loved it too. Did you sad that I loved it?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I just was like, that was a good rap. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I just, you know, give him a pat. I mean,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: get back on the line. Let's go. Yeah, I mean you.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Got to get one back, extra heart on that next one.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it happened. It's not like he was more.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Three next time. We got to shade it in a little.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Bit, pad back. It's not It's not like, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I was fine. I popped back up. Everybody else thought,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I thought it was a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: bigger deal than I did.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: You're seeing a lesser man would have stayed down.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I mean he had never done that to me. Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: you're right. I mean it was a good It was
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a good block.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: He got into it, got the backhand and the stern
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: him and I didn't get my second stuff on the ground,
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: and I asked over tea kettle.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like six seven yards.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It was awesome to see. We need that clip.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Have you seen it? He showed it to us, But
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Will showed you at the clip, somebody.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: He showed you haven't seen anything.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: He has it on his phone. We haven't seen JP.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: He was probably all gassed up. I'll get him back,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: don't worry.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm afraid.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: He was. He where's it? Will He was, gasp, he's
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: a boys.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Once I get done with this little a two minutes you,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I'm Sorry'm laying it all out there. Willie. Well, he said,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: once I get done, I gotta show you guys a
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: clip that I think you'll enjoy it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he hit me over there.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna start to walk out, and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: we're like, hey, you said you had a clip for us, Like,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm like, I don't him over How are
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you trying to get it out?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Come in?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: They laid it on the line. They laid it on
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the line for me. I gotta go on the show.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: You got to come on the show.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, have fun.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to. Oh you don't want to? Oh, okay,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that's fine. We only have for I think we Stacey's
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: got the time limit. It's time.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: How about Tory at the time we have uh, Veronica,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: come on, sorry.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I got I got local medium bud light.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: You know how everybody, anybody would do anything for a
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: bud light, a nice cold bud light. What would coach for.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: A no free shout out?
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: What would coach Rable do anything for?
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: I can't say family, can't say family. I mean obviously
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: another banner up there, Like, that's what you do.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: For that banner.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: We've we've discussed this already.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, but what else?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: What else would I do? Yeah? For the banner, I'm
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: gonna work every day. I meant cutting off any more appendages,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Like, that's that's why we're doing this, you know, other
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: than to provide for our families, it's to to win championships.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Like you guys know this spiel. We've been through this.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: You guys are trained. You guys are trained.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Rats.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Would you cut it?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: He already said on the second one, he's well.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we went to the AMC Championship.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: When he said, that's it, boys, I want an honest
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: evaluation of practice.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: What I gotta gotta Can I tell you something?
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I want an honest evaluation of practice. Obviously, and if
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I'm missing anything, let me know.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously you got to create the evidence and
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: build the legacy and everything else. But I'm legitimately so
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: juiced that you were the head coach of the Patriots
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: just because you were a hell of a player at
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Ohio State. You're a health of player in the league
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: with the three banners and the three Super Bowls. And
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I hope, I hope, hang on, hang on.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: This one's for Jin too.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I hope you take time to just have perspective of
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: how fucking cool.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I will try to stop and smell
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: the roses along the way. I hope you guys come
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: back for a game. Promise, Can I get a Can
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I get a headset?
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I'll stay out of the way. You have stretches, Okay,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Drake May, welcome the bust with the boys. You know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: keep you set him up, You set it up.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: No, okay, Drake May.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: What's going on? How you doing hanging in there?
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Right, Oh dude, we're doing great.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen vibes already off the top. I'll be honest
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with you. You got a nice little person player. Give
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: me the team keys when you're talking to the media,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: talking to the media, yeah, pervorable team keys.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the media.
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, speak for myself.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: No talking about injuries, that's correct. Don't talking about expectations, right,
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: don't talk about scheme.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Don't talk about scheme.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Is there another one? You're on it?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: You seem like there was one more. I feel like
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: all of them.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: No comparisons is the same. It's kind of expectations comparison,
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: No comparison thing same one.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you see yourself a lot in Josh Allen?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Do you guys think you're very similar? Football players? Both mobile, tall, handsome.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: You know the quarterbacks? Uh, you know, he's the m
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: v P. I think the comparisons are. I got a
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: lot of work to do, you know, with kind of
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: even give me in the same you know, stratosphere or
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: atmosphere as Josh. So luckily in the division, so we
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: have got some good matchups I'm looking forward to. But really, comparisons,
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: I'm just trying to be myself and hey, at the
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: end of the day, some people think that, I mean,
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: that's a lot of respect for him, But at that
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: I allow work to do for that.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Let's pivot real quick on the sports though. I'm apologize
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: for interrupting you. Will you and Josh Allen one on
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: one pick up basketball? Who's winning that game?
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: I think myself as a hooping yea and hoops for sure.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Who do you think Josh Allen the night before the
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: draft was in a YMCA playing pick up basketball.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Did Pat tell you that we have our sources exact time?
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: What are we talking about?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: So Drake the day it was in Detroit? Correct, the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: day before he gets drafted first round pick by the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots. He's at an indoor gym at a YMCA,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: playing pick up basketball with a bunch of gen pop.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Just trying to get war your stats. What was your numbers?
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: My brothers were in there, so we had some good competition.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: But just get the nerves and you're going, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: you and the will Yeah, you know kind of being
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: at the draft.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: You get nervous.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You get nervous whether you get whether you're there where
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the draft's happening or you're sitting at home and doesn't matter.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was nerds. I have nerds for
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: three days. Disappointment.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Was there a piece of you ever throughout? Like when
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you're going to the draft process of day one hit,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you're like, what if though.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: One hundred percent, I want to say Bill Belichick got
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: some projected guy. He was like in the lower rounds,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: and he drafted him in the second round and on
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: the first on the first night, the Chargers called me
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: being like I kind of forget what the how the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: conversation went, but.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe I'm a Day two guy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: No ship.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Then they drafted damn man. He was a great player.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I played longer, but he's a great player.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah he had the build though, Yeah he had stirred
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: on him. Sturdy, were you surprised if the Patriots drafted you.
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: I think I was just pumped, you know, kind of
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: the feelings you just want to get drafted somewhere. So
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: I was really just pumped. I think I knew there
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: was a chance possibly here. You know what a great
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: legacy this place has been, and uh hopefully were trying
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: to get back to that.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: What's the first several months been like with coach Rabel?
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: It's been awesome. I mean, I'll know it's uh it's
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: hostile now, Oh we know it's awesome. You gotta bring
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: you gotta bring it and leave it. He goes at
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: the door. I'm sure, y'all. I'm sure you check y'all
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: a few times with personalities of y'all two but uh,
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: I think you know, we watch the old film with
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: Big Taylor's in there watching Podrell watching you over there.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: How was he doing?
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: I think you may I heard something new.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Know damn you know.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: And when Ray was answering the question talking about how
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: he had to drill up at you and POSEI you
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: got over leverage, I'm thinking to myself, you know, Rave
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: was just loving the fact that he could kind of
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: just body bag you in front of some other.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: And the fact it's like that's not for anybody else.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: And I know five people on this football team that
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: was for Raves and Stretch. Yeah, and yeah you kinda laugh, like,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: look at that idiot right there.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: No sat the first pitch, dude, come on, yeah, bro,
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: you kind of looked like good forms, like a little
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: bit of Randy Johnson in.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: This Let it go?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bring my show.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Redemption is coming, really, I don't know if we can
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: say the date yet, but it is this month. I'll
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: be catching redemption.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: Where was that?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: What?
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: God?
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: Game was that at the Redemption? Another game that you
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: just threw.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Oh that was in Saint Louis.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Saint Louis.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: And Buddy, I'll tell you this nerves No, I was like,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm about to rip this. I'm about to throw this
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: thing high sixties.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which was good for me.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And I walked out there. Buddy was standing behind the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: mountain just saying I'm gonna rip this thing. He was like,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't even say a word. And then that happened,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I'm still in disbelief. Yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and I think I'm like kind of getting the yips
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: now too, Like I go play catch and like I'll
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: put a couple in Wolf's chest and then there'll be one. Oh, buddy,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Ill every day really I get, I get to the shop,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: we do work, and then I'm like, come play catch
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: with me.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: That's really bad.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: So we'll see. We'll see.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Have you ever thrown person?
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: I thought about throwing curveball or something one time the
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: first pitch. Yeah, I haven't thrown one, but if I did,
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: I'll throw a curveball or something.
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: Baseball guy, grown up, Yeah, baseball.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Guy, you have a whole family of them.
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: I got a bunch.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I saw one story where it was like, uh, what
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: was it People magazine? Where your mom would make like
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: thirty six eggs for you guys would just be a war.
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: We got some big dudes, some big fellows rolling around.
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: So a bunch of hooligans.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Who's most athletic in your family?
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: Think a mom. I'm speaking from a mom.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: But you know dad's punching air right now.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: He's old and fat now, so.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: You give it to yourself over the other brothers.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they'd say the same, they would Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: They know what's up or they just pounding the steering
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: wheel right now as they listen.
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: Now, my brother is definitely a tune in. My brother's
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: a big fan of the bust with the boys.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Patrick playing the Tians? I think what was Collins?
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: There?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Was Pat Collins there?
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was there.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: We came down just to go meet his brother, just
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like because he was that big of a fan of us.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I'll go down there for sure.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And we met the night that night before at the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Pegle Porker. Yeah you got Troy Nunes exactly.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, bring it back to Rapes.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I need a pet peeve.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: What pisses you off about Mike or how about this?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: What uh?
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Instead of what pisses you off about Coach Rabel? What
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: would piss Coach Rabel off about you? Or what would
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: be a pet peeve of Raves that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: He has a you not celebrating after rescore.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They did go viral, didn't.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he just's I agree. I mean it's hard to
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: getting the end zone.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: I think you saw the clip. We didn't score enough
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: of them last year, so, uh, just getting excited. I
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: think it's there's so much mental game going on in
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: the game, you know, in practice playing QB, So just
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: getting excited when do something good. That's tough, you know.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: I think I need to do a bad job of that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: We go through hard to simulate, you know, in practice
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: when it's actually a real touchdown the game. You know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: it's easy to run down there with the boys, but
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: you know the old lines gotta run down there, like
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: oh I got run fifteen yards back.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tough boys cruising.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Over there exactly celebrating after touchdowns.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I saw you throw a few touchdowns today in the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: red zone, and I didn't see you run into the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: en zone and celebrate.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: So is that a coachable coachability thing or is that
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: just hey, we're in this is not a team period.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: No.
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was one on one seven, So I think
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: he still get some excitement, for sure. What's what were
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: the things that y'all did back in the day he
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: got mad at Oh got me?
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, every probably just being on social media, yeah yeah, yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: he'd bring up posts every now and then.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: There was one time where it was like Darren Bates
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: was injured and so he was sitting out of walkthrough
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: and in my brain he was just getting one over.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you're just You're just wanting to chill,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: like you ain't in that bad of shape. So I
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: bought this neck brace on Amazon, and then I like
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: took a video because he had like the yellow jersey on.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I'm telling him, hey, throw this on, throw this boy
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the neck brace, and we're kind of busting his balls
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: in the locker room and I'm videoing it. I put
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: it up on social and he texted me later that
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: night and he's like, you think this was smart? And dude,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: fear just filled the entire part of my body. And
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: so I'm sitting there looking on how I should respond
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: back to Verble kind of like is he kind of
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: messing with me? Should I like send a joke back
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: because we all know he's playing like it's all good.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: And he put it up in the TV the next day.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: My asshole was was tight as.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: You walk in that TV room. It's really the first
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: one when you come act for OTAs because everyone's kind
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: of done their thing. Maybe he posted something in January.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: He knows. John Striker knows, and he will show Mike Rabe.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's not. He is on it. He has dialed in.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he's the OP.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think you understand how much of a win
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: it is for you guys to have stretch on this
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: team just yet, like you guys will realize how big
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: of a win it is to have. But he's definitely
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the OP. I had a time Bill O'Brien got fired
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: from Houston and I was commenting on how I was
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: like fired up about him getting fired, and Raves like
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: called me and chewed me out for like five minutes
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: about how disrespectful that is. And I don't know Bill
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and that was. Walking in the
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: next day was very difficult.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: It was. It was scary, But I.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Saw him the next day he like pat me on
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the asid walking down the hallway. So he's kind of
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: always doing this and you just don't really know what
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: He bullies you until he knows you're broken a little bit.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and kind of stepping on egg walking on eggshells.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: And then that's when he buddies you up and he's like,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: why don't you laugh? And it's a joke.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: It's like, well he was, he was.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Sitting here with us before y'all's practice being like, you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: is they don't know that I'm joking yet and stuff
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: like that, So you know, I'll tell him. He if
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: it's funny, you can laugh in the team meeting room.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, we're still there. We've known you since twenty eighteen.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: We're still like, Dan, there we have. That's how rape likes.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: I saw the clip of you y'all about to fight
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: in the bus. You like your chances, you.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Think against rape?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I got too much respect to think that I could
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: take him.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: It's almost like yeah. And then he's a little real
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and it's kind.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Of like he's just got the power dynamic of father's son,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, hey, will do
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: you think you can whoop your old man? It's like
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: you just don't. You don't really go there mentally. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: then when he bulks up it's kind of like he's
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: a long he's a specimen. Hands to scratch his knees
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: You're saying, you're saying Rape is your daddy right now.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: I'm saying he's got that's the type of respect that
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I have for him as a father.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I see him as like a father figure.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, we swapped text in the off season.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: He checks on the family and stuff. He's like a
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: mental mind.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: So I just appreciate him, you know what I mean.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: When he walked up, like, you know, hey, don't get
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: sensitive on me, Braves.
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: Like.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Between two of you.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: He likes Will a lot more than me. Yeah, he
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: like I. He I think he definitely views me as
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: like he coached me really hard when he got there,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and I was like, he'll lighten up eventually, and it
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: never really happened. And then I like got cut eventually
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of just not stopped. Will was like
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: they brought Will in, he was doing the core for
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: he was like a light and did the Rabel thing
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and that went over really well. And then once Will
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: was out of the building, Rabel was like, that's my guy. Yeah,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm Will's buddy, but that Will's Rabe's friend. Does
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: that make sense?
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Taylor was an asset that they needed to produce at
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: the highest level at all times, so when he get injured,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that kind of plays into the psyche of
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: what his view was of Taylor, Like, I'm an asset,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: but I'm more of an asset, like, uh, you know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: like one of those uh.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: What was a gester? You know, first off gestures the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: people that would entertain the king.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: What's the animal that you keep? Then they just give
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: you good vibes, are there for you?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Golden retriever, no support, emotional, sporting.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like my ass set ability was like being the
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: support animal in the locker room.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll you know, just Will was a locker
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: room guy. So Raves would always be like, we're gonna
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: hold our high or our best players to the highest
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: standard or whatever. That's like his phrase he always says.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And he would call me in his office, Hey, what's up, Raves.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be buddies, always trying to be buddies. No,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: he'd be like, coming here real quick, and he pulled
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: up some film. We just sit in silence for a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: little bit while I play some couple of plays of
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: me like not doing videos. We hold our best players
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: to the highest standard. Correct, yes, sir? Is that the
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: highest standard?
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: No?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I need you to play better next week?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And there be games too, I like walk away from
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: games were like, bro, I that was a game. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: kind of have myself a little I think I have
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: like four or five players, and I put that guy
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the dirt. I was good to protection blah blah blah.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I felt good about it. And as I'm like truly
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: feeling good about myself, I'm getting a text from Braves
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: be like, need you to be better next week? And
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: it was always it was always that Will. I would
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I would sit over and watch Will and Braves be like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: how the fuck do I get to that?
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I just had to get a couple of tackles on
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: special Teams or Slice of seven when once a game
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Because when he said here was like, hey man, you're
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: showing some man reaches. He's should you getting overextended on
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: on on a play action clips just killing me.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: That's kind of the difference in dynamic. But this is
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: about this podcast. You're doing very well and asking questions
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: about us now we're getting the five fingers. Take us
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: through the process last year being thrown into the fire,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: because on the outside, it seemed like when you got
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: drafted you were going to be somebody who was kind
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: of like maybe groomed in on the sideline throughout the season.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Then the season was going the way it was. You
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: had coach Mayo, he was he was in his first year.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Then you kind of get thrust in and thrown into
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: the fire. Was that something that you expected or what
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: was the learning curve as that decision? Uh was made?
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: No, I think you know, we had the Texans here
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: at home, so it was a good in front of
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: home crowd. You get thrown into the fire. I think
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: it's something that they're like, man, let's see what I got.
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: I think it's, uh, you go out there and you
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: see the Neil Hunter, will Anderson, you know when you
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: go out there in your first drive and you're like,
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: this is the NFL.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Specimens.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Especially Hunter dude.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, good guys a lot. So I think you know,
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: from there, I think just ultimately confidence, I think that's
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: what I think you kind of appreciate yourself. You do
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: all that practice, to do all this training camp, go
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: out there and just a lot of bullets. See what
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: you see what you got, And you know, I think,
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: you know, the biggest thing is these guys we still
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: played hard. You know, I think we uh, you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: we were in some close games and you know, season
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: didn't go with the way we wanted, But these guys
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: fought hard. I think, especially those guys up front, they
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: fought for me hard. And you know, the at least
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: I do is get back and go out there and compete,
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: and you'll leave it all out there. So that's my
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: approach to it, and it's not gonna change.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Was there ever a moment of discouragement during your rookie year, Like,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: as you guys are out there and you're performing, whether
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: up to your standard or not.
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: You know, once you really hit and I think kind
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: of the you know, ten losses in the season, you
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: know it's tough. You got there and you're out there playing.
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: You probably know in the back of your mind you're
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: not gonna make the playoffs. You're out there playing a
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: you know, a gruesome game, and you're out there just battling,
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: and I think that's really what you're kind of finding
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: these guys like who can I really go to war with?
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: And I think that's what, you know, I was trying
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: to approach it myself, like these guys are gonna see
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: me am I still competing hard and you know, scrambling
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: around and trying to make plays or just gonna throw
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: it in the dirt and keep back up and punt.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: And so I think that's kind of is what I
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: kind of used last year, as you obviously want to
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: you know, win more games this year, and that's our plan.
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: So uh, I think everybody feels good now. So it's
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: it's going into your week one to see you when
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: the real bullets go times.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Remember that rookie wall when you're sitting there in the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: middle of November possibly like walking into December. You know,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you're out of the playoffs, like you said, you're you know,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: ten losses, you're probably not gonna pit the playoffs, like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you will not make the playoffs with ten losses. And
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: you see these guys, you know, you're twenty one years old.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: You got these guys that are in their thirties they
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: kind of know. So you see guys kind of talking
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: about Cobbos and Lucas all of a sudden, I'm gonna
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: go over here. What are we doing for a vacation?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Like what was that like from you from like a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: just a going from college to NFL.
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: No, No, it's different. I think even the first thing I
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: know is these guys got families. You know, it's not
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: the locker room in college where you're hanging out and
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: going back to someone's place and you know, watching football. Yeah,
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: I think stuff like that. It's more like you're like
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: your families and you leave here and like I said
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: that rookie Wall kind of after you know, after the
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: bowl season, you go straight to training and then you
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: go straight to the draft preps. So it's a long year,
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: long years of these rookies. That's what I'm telling these
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: guys on our team, you know, Will Campbell, those guys,
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: it's a long year. And I think, you know, from there,
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: you give up here to Boston. I never been up
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: here in the North and you get out of meetings
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: at five o'clock and next thing you know, it's dark
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: outside and it's fifteen freeze. I think I had a
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: whole different element of the morbidness up here of the winners.
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: So I think that's really really right around your teammates
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: and you know, when you are in the building, try
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: to make it as you enjoyable as you can. And
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: I think definitely you see guys not like you said,
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: not checking out, but no one kind of what's what's
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: in the end and kind of the light the end
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: of the tunnel is not you know, looking you know
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: too bright. I think you can see that in the NFL,
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: which is you know credit then you guys want to
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: you have you know, lungevity in the years and you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: credit their bodies and you know, you can see injuries
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: is a big part of the game. So there's two
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: sides too, but hopefully not in that situation.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you got like your routine in your first
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: year and you hit the wall and everything like that,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: what are some changes you're making for yourself and your
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: in your daily routine during the football season.
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. You know, I think Jakobe
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: set was someone great for me to learn from, you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: a veteran this league, playing a bunch of different offenses.
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: He's the man, you know, just hanging out outside. We
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: should go to dinner. I think it's different. You got
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: my wife up here, now in the season, so it'll
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: be different having her up here. But really just it's
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: about ball, I think, trying to change, trying to find
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: what's work, kind of find a rhythm throughout the weeks
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: and hopefully if you, you know, get w in the
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: wing column, just try to repeat it. And if not,
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: you gotta change something where study more, get with the
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: guys more, do something different.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: I have one more question for you, and I want
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: to take you back to college your senior year. You're
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Drake may Hey. Is he gonna go first?
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Overall?
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: This kid's a specimen. He's this, He's that. You start
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: off seven and oh eight and oh ranked ten in
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: the country. Is this Drake may kid? Is he about it?
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: And then Virginia and Georgia Tech happened? What the fuck
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: happened against Virginia and Georgia Tech?
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: Those the same thing.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Those are the kind of questions you're getting a bust
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: with the boys, hard hitting jobs right there.
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: No, I think it was it was tough. I think
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: we twice two years in a row. My last two
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: years two years I played, we lost to a Georgia
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: Tech at home. We ranked tenth in the country. We
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: were like nine to one, and then we lost to Virginia.
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: That next year, we were like maybe seven or eight
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: in the country at home. Yeah, I think it's uh
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: fucking christ this kind of story nor Con football.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: You know when I was there, we just couldn't find
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: a way to get over the hump, kind of get
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: into that next category of of wins and being that
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: next kind of vision of respect you know, around the
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: country for our football program. And I really think it
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: was just unfortunate.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: This is my last question. Well, is your welcome to
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the NFL moment. If you got to go with the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: thing you have to go, you to be fast.
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: I think the Neil Hunter. I think we came out
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: of halftime. I just threw a touchdown. My first touchdown
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: was fourteen to seven, and we're getting empty and yeah,
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: I get stripped sacked to start off the half the
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: first play, and then from there it was kind of like,
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: you know, holding the ball in this league, you gotta
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: get rid of it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: So get rid of it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: Dude.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Yeah, I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, come on, I appreciate you guys having me on.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely welcome to Busting with the Boys. I am personally
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  Speaker 4: fired up. I know Taylor's fired up as well. But
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: just as an undrafted linebacker, you were a rookie mini
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: camp tryout, like the gutter the gutter of gutters. Rabe
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: was kind of saying too, He's like the meatia camp trial.
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  Speaker 4: Guys like you just have them there to be bodies
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: for the people you bring in the draft picks you
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  Speaker 4: bring in the other preferred undrafted free agents that you
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  Speaker 4: bring in. You weren't one of those. You got what
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  Speaker 4: an offer coming out of where'd.
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  Speaker 2: You go to college?
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  Speaker 6: To Western Michigan, to.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Western Michigan, bro and now all the way to just
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: signing a three year, thirty three million dollar deal to
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: be with the Patriots a second stint with coach Rabel.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: We're fucking proud of you, bro Stoked.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: Definitely come a long way.
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: Hasn't been easy, A lot of trials and tribulations. You know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 9: when you started as an undrafted player, they look at
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: you as an undrafted player for the remainder of your career.
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: So I still have that chip on my shoulder every
• 56:24
  Speaker 9: day I go out there. I tell myself you're undrafted.
• 56:27
  Speaker 9: You know it's time to go earn it.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: When did you think you had? Obviously you could tell
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: you love ball And we tell the story. We told
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: the story in the podcast multiple times of us sitting
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: after I think.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: It was Pittsburgh he reception.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Hand reception had like seven, eight, maybe even ten tackles
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: and you're kind of walking by and we're like chopping
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: it up in the corner a little we're a little
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: banged up, and I'm like, hey, man, kind of did
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: your think out there? And you kind of get a
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: little nervous. You're like, I love football, and you kind
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of just kept it moving and it's like we joked
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: and laughed about it, but like, brother, that those are
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the guys that make it, the dudes that sit there,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you have to truly love playing this
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: game to be put in the position you were in
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the NFL and now to be sitting where you are now.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: But at what point was it that rookie minni camp?
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Was it after your first year, when were you like, oh,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I can I think I can actually play in the NFL.
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: I think our first practice as a team, when I
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: got the veterans in there after rookie Mini Camp, and
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: I saw what the NFL was, I knew I had
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: a chance to make it. I had an internal confidence
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: right away that I am undrafted. I'm the ninth man
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: on the roster of the ninetieth overall, the ninth in
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: the linebacker corps, and I feel like I can make
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: myself good enough to be good in this league one day.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: But you get cut, then you go on practice squad
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: you get cut, I believe in October if I remember right,
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: And then you end up signing with Pittsburgh in the
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: next February, like after the season's over, so you're you know,
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: technically the saying is, you're on your couch for the
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: rest of the season. Did doubt ever creep in your mind?
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard when you get cut in
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: the spend four months at home. You go out to
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: la for a tryout, they send you home without giving
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: you a call back. You go out to Denver for
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: a tryout, they send you home without getting a call back.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: Go out to.
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: Pittsburgh for a tryout, and just as we're walking on
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: the field with six inside linebackers, they signed one of them.
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: They take one of them upstairs and say we're gonna
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: sign you in front of everybody.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: So I go out for the tryout. I'd leave without
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: a call.
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: I in turn, decided to give them a call back
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: and give them a piece of my mind and say,
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: why the fuck did you bring me out here? What
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: was the fucking point of bringing me out here if
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: you already had your mind made up? And it was
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: that energy, that fire that they saw in me. And
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: two days later, they gave me an opportunity.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: What are they saying on the phone so you call them, Hey,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: patch me into Mike Tomlin.
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: It wasn't Mike Tomlin.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: Kevin Colbert's son, the head, one of the head scouts
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: that invited me to the tryout originally, and he called me,
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: or I called him after the tryout saying, what was
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: thet of you bringing out here? We just talked on
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: the phone before I got out here. You want to
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: give me an opportunity? And I felt like, that's bullshit.
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: You gotta signed a guy without even giving me a shot,
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: and uh, he just oh, yeah, we're gonna We're still
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: looking at you. We're still looking at you. I'm like, yeah, bullshit.
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: Whatever.
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: Didn't expect to hear anything back from them. Two days later,
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: they gave me an opportunity to come in for a
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: ninety man roster spot and kind of worked my way
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: through practice squad, through special teams, and then got my
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: opportunity to play defense.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: When Devin Bush went on.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: That when you decided to call them and give him
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: a piece of mind, is it like your frustration was
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: at an all time high when you're going out and
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: doing tryouts because me like doubt, doubt being the wrong
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: We're more of like discouraged that you're putting in all
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: this work, you're persevering, you're staying resilient, you believe in yourself.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Did it just get to a point where it's like,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta figure out why this isn't happening.
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, without a doubt, I wanted answers. I wanted I
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: felt like I was wronged. I felt like I had
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: to ability and the capabilities to one day be a
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 9: successful player in this league. So it really bothered me
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 9: that I wasn't getting that opportunity. And I honestly believe
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: if I didn't have that chip on my shoulder, I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: wouldn't be here today.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you when you go to the Steelers, you
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: get on the ninety man roster, put the dark visor on.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: By the way, that was a nice touch, was very nice. Yeah,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: headaches head, Yeah, that's what it's all about. You go
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and play the Titans again, and there's a goal line
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: stand and a lot of people. I believe there's a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: there's another reporter. He's on ESPN. He talks about him
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: and Derek Henry in the whole He's taking Derick Henry
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: ol and everyone always argues about it, but you actually
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: stood Derek's ass up with the Derek. We love Derek
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: on the show, but handled business was that like you're
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: coming uh, you're coming out moment for.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 9: Sure, my first career start against the team that cut
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 9: me two years prior. Anytime you step on the field
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: with King Henry, you have to give him respect and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: you have to bring it all. If you take a
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: slight second of the playoff, he's scoring a touchdown. So
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 9: I knew at that moment that it it had to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: be there on the goal line with the team that
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: cut me two years prior. All that worked up inside
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 9: me and I was able to make a nice play
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: on the goal line.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Out there.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I felt the excitement from everybody in the stands.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: My whole family took a bus from Chicago to the game.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 9: I had a lot of friends on the Tennessee Titans
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: still at that point that showed me love after the game,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 9: So it was really a special moment for me.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: You put your face in the fan, did you feel
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: it like as you were getting up to celebrate.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: I definitely lost a few years of my life in
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: that moment.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely gave the Good Lord a few years
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 9: of my life.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: You have a did you feel it like you have
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: a sting or anything like that.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they call it a stinger. But when you can't
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 9: feel half your body and you're like, no, ship, I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 9: came off the field. Cam Hayward rips me off the ground.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: He's like, oh, spill sleeping, get off the field. So
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 9: I run off the field and obviously you don't want
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: to be wobbling coming off the field. So I'm like, oh,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 9: my shoulder sore, my shoulder. And I guess that's all
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 9: part of playing in the NFL.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: So when you go to.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: As you're going through the Steelers, you get cut, you
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: going practice squad, you get cut again early in the year,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: you get brought brought back the next week. Then when
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: Devin Bush goes down with an ACL injury, you get
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: your number calls. And then that game, I think you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: go on, you have like, you have a few good plays,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: and that next week Tomlin's in the in the press
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: conference saying that you're going to be the starter. Take
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: us through, take us through that process, and what that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: meant to hear knowing that coach Tomlin and the Steelers
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: had that trust in you to continue to be the starter.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, knowing that they had that trust in me, it
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: was all I needed to go out there and succeed.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: Knowing I had the trust of the ten people around me.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 9: It's a very safe spot when you're in the middle
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: linebacker of these defenses. You got ten killers all around you.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: So it seems very chaotic and a lot going on,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: but for me, that's like where I feel the most
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: calm and Uh, having the confidence of the players and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: the coaches in that organization meant everything to me to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: go out there and succeed.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: How they break the news to you, they call you
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: in the office, they play a truck or anything.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Tom Win called me in and he said, it's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 9: time to start living like a pro.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: We need to get you some new outfits. We need
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: to get you a new car.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: You're you're our starting mid a linebacker, so you need
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: to come in looking like it, playing like it. So
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: it was kind of a fun moment for me, and uh,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 9: something I'll never forget.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Did you listen, You'll get yourself a next you get.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: A new car.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 9: No, I And that's probably why they didn't keep me
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: around too much longer.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: So you went on, you signed free agency with the Raiders.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Did Pittsburgh not want you back?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: No, they they didn't.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: And it hurts to say that, and it it hurts
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 9: to feel like that because you felt like you great,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: You made all these great connections, You felt like you
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: poured your heart on the line, you felt like you
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 9: did everything to be a good team player. But at
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: the end of the day, this is a business and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: they don't always want you back. And it hurts, and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: it hurts, and it adds to that chip on the shoulder.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 9: But that's all I could do at that point was
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: go out to Vegas my one opportunity no one else
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 9: was calling, and go out there and ball.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: So who else was in the conversation when you were
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: negotiating as a free agent ended up with the Raiders.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: It was the Raiders. It was just the Raiders.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: So when you were going into free agency, what were
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: those conversations like in your exit meetings with the Steelers,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Like as your interfergency.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 9: Before I went into free agency, that told me go
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 9: out test the market and see what you get. We're
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 9: going to offer whatever they give you, and we want
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: to make you a Steeler.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: We love you and your brain.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 9: You're like, this is where I want to So I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: called them, oh I got an offer from the Steeler
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: or from the Raiders, like I want to come back.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: What's the deal? And they were like, oh, good luck,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: have fun. So really that's how it happened. And obviously
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: at the time you're sick, you're moving across the country,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: but at the same time you're so happy because somebody
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 9: believes in you, and that's all you really need, like
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: to have Patrick Graham out there, to have Josh McDaniels
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: out there, believe Antonio Pierce believing in me as the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 9: player and as a person. That's what gives me confidence
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: to go out there and do what I do best.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: What was it like when So was it March when
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: I saw you at UFC? Yeah, yeah, and I was
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Plaine like walks by me. We kind of like I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: don't I'm just kind of walking and he kind of
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: like he's like he could see you, man, like maybe
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: goes I'm gonna be a Patriot and just kind of
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: books it out of there. I was like you just
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: you see, just beaming absolutely being back. When Braves calls
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you Were you just so fired up about the full
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: circle moment? Was he the one that called you or
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the gym called you?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they offered the deal once free agency opened. Uh,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 9: And I knew I wanted to be a Patriot. I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: knew I wanted to get back with coach Rabel. I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 9: knew what type of person he is willing to lay
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: his life on the line for his players. And Uh,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 9: it's just an organization that you want to be a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: part of. It's a historic organization and a new emerging
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: team with a lot of new peace. And it seemed
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 9: like a really good opportunity for me and my family.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: How does it feel for you when you walk out
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: and do a scrimmage last Friday and you see all
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: six of those banners standing up there in the stadium.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's Uh, it's pressure. But at the end
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: of the day, that's why we come out here. That's
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 9: why we love doing what we're doing. We love when
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 9: these these stadiums are filled out, sold out, rocking, loud
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: and excitement, and uh, we're gonna have a lot of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: that this year. And I can't wait to see what
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: Pat's Nation is all about.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: Your second Stanton Free agency, same kind of question, like
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: when it was coming to a name with the Raiders,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: Like who is in the market for you before you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: ultimately decided on the Patriots? Like with the Raiders winning, you.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: Bat uh not not really?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: God damn.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: And I feel like, uh, Max Crossby, You're gonna.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: Have to ask Max, because he went on the podcast
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 9: and he said, you know, he's been in the office
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: with the GM every day in the offseason. So I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 9: don't know what happened where the love loss was there,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, I have this
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 9: opportunity here and I'm gonna do with everything I can
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 9: to be a good teammate here and performed for the Patriots.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: Were there any other teams that were fighting for you
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: before you decided here?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? There was?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: Are you able to do you want to hear about it?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Yea.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: So this is a podcast we do. We like, we
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: like talking people.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: This isn't like, this isn't like a professional ESPN sit down.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: I mean there was a team in the West Coast.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 9: There was a team that I had recently played for
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: and won in the Mountains, and uh uh, they all
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 9: showed a big interest and we're excited.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: So Denver Chargers, Titans close.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: It's very close.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: It's very close.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, And then it was the Rams.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: Uh yeah, well we'll we'll just say that's that was close.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: That was very close.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Who who is the closest outside of the New England.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: I mean once once it once, it came down to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: it in New England said and showed me that they
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: wanted me to come out here.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: It was a done deal. I wanted to be here.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 9: Out of the four teams that were offering, I wanted
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: to be part of the Patriots. So I'm glad that
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: we got it done here and I'm excited to go
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 9: out and perform.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: You know, splain when we're asking these questions, every everything
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: we've asked as far as harmless. But he's thinking himself,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: what's that team meeting gonna look like when this podcast
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: comes out and Raves goes plain, we're not paying you enough?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: You mean what you want to be here?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: No, I'm so excited and glad to be here. And
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 9: and we we got a young team. A lot of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: free agents joined the team this year, so it's gonna
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: look a lot different than last year.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: And we're just gonna go out and Uh, continue to work.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: What do you.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Do?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: My best to ask question where you just won't give
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: a bullshit answer?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: Are they all bullshit answered?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: Speak for you know, I don't want to say something stupid,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: no doubt. I am not a trained podcaster, so.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: None of us are.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: These other hypothetical teams that I may or may not
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: have been close on. Did they offer even offer the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: same amount as the Patriots?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: Yes, they were right in the same ballpark anymore they
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 9: were right in the same ballpark as the Patriots.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Did you have a recruiting dinner with Rapes? Recruiting didn't
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: like did you come out here to visit? And they
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: Rabe was courting you around.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: Once once we signed your say.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: Before if you came out here for a visitor.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: So there was no conversation leading up to free agency.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: Once free agency hit, my agent called me at whatever
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: it was noon that day and said, you know, the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: Pats really want you. So I was excited to hear
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 9: that I've worked with coach t in the past or
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 9: defensive coordinator, I've worked with Rabel in the past, and Uh,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 9: it just seemed like.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: The right fit for me and my family.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: You have to play the Steelers and the Raiders, two
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: teams to have elite pass rushers. What are similarities and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: some differences you see between TJ Watt and Max Crosby.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, two of the best in the league. Obviously, as
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 9: you can see those contracts, those boys are living right.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 9: They are working hard. TJ is dominant, both on the
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 9: left side of the ball. Both have the freedom to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 9: do whatever they want on a play. You know, if
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 9: you have a non dominant edge rusher, you tell them
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 9: set the edge. If you have Max and TJ, you
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 9: tell them do whatever the hell you want because we
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: know you're gonna make a play. So playing behind those
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 9: guys has let me learn how to play behind people
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: that like to swim gaps, like to find the ball.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 9: I think TJ has done a great job forst fumbles interceptions.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: Max has the best motor in the NFL, so he
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 9: is unblockable for ninety snaps out of the game, which
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 9: is unheard of from a d end I.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Love it, Bobby, we're getting we're getting the wrap up signal.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: But dude, again, so proud of you. I think you
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: are a fucking awesome example front drafted guys being a
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: rookie MENI camp trial guy, to get all the way
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  Speaker 4: into your third contract, which is massive, especially at the
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  Speaker 4: linebacker spot. Man, and I wish you well this year, bro,
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  Speaker 4: stay healthy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me on. I appreciate Love you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Love you too, man, Thank you guys. Sorry, So let's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: get into let's get into this that outfit. This you're
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: you're obviously rocking something special. What is the what's the
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  Speaker 1: reason for this?
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  Speaker 10: Uh So, originally there was function behind it. So six
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: years ago I played Miami. Yeah, you know, it's ninety
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  Speaker 10: five degrees, feels like one hundred and two. But the
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  Speaker 10: ends of this don't get wet. Yeah, when it's like
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  Speaker 10: flowing through, it'll sweat up here, but the whole shirt
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  Speaker 10: won't get wet, so I can dry my fingers.
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  Speaker 8: And then every training camp now I just do it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: So originally the West function. Now it's pure style. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: it's like eighty two outsider.
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  Speaker 1: How crazy is it going from a place in Miami
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  Speaker 1: to New England? And then you're probably in the shame game.
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  Speaker 1: But you hear one guy whispered, man, it's fucking hot
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  Speaker 1: out here, and what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: You have no idea?
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  Speaker 10: Literally, the guy's like it was like ninety three the
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  Speaker 10: other day. Dude like like, yeah, I don't know if
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  Speaker 10: I can go. I'm like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 10: This is like we got a ninety three degree day
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  Speaker 10: in Miami. Everybody was smiling here to ear like this
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  Speaker 10: is simple.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gorgeous out here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super nice.
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  Speaker 8: Like y'all haven't even changed your cleats because they're soaking
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  Speaker 8: water through.
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  Speaker 1: Yet, right you start walking up the field and your
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  Speaker 1: your feet a little squish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, we had a hot day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how's it. How's the process been with with Mike
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  Speaker 1: and the culture and everything here in New England.
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  Speaker 10: It's been good. I think one of the biggest things.
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  Speaker 10: And I've been kind of in that New England style
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  Speaker 10: system of like work and get shit done, and I
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  Speaker 10: love that.
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  Speaker 8: Type of ship, like the guy who works hard gets rewarded.
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  Speaker 10: But having Mike, who was also played so he understands,
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  Speaker 10: like when he says some shit, it's like, Okay, he's
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  Speaker 10: actually probably done it. He's done some of the ship
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  Speaker 10: that he's telling us to do, so it works out.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Cool.
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  Speaker 10: I can I can hear where he's coming from because
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  Speaker 10: he could pull up some tape with him actually doing it.
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  Speaker 10: He's not just talking out his ass.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's gramy as hell, but he did do it
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  Speaker 1: for fourteen years. How many times has he mentioned that
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  Speaker 1: he's played fourteen years in the NFL and team.
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  Speaker 10: Meetings, team meetings, I don't know. When he comes in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 10: the receiver room, it's straight to the touchdowns. It's like
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  Speaker 10: ten for ten or twelve or twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever it is. Yeah, even I can do.
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  Speaker 1: When he first started the Titans, this he was AJ's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: first year, he put up all the receivers and their
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: stats from the year before, and it was like, I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: think all of them had like maybe total eleven and
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: then his was twelve or twelve twelve touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: He like he out paid him.
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  Speaker 4: Was it until I want to say it was in
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: the middle of the second time around that I was there,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: like twenty twenty. Yeah, when the room finally passed him
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  Speaker 4: in touchdowns? Which is it was something.
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  Speaker 1: That was that was a team that's big for the.
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  Speaker 4: How big?
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  Speaker 10: Well?
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  Speaker 4: How how finally do you look back on your last
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: year with the Buffalo. It seemed like you had a
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: lot of fun. I feel like you were in the
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: headlines a lot more. Obviously, you've talked to it, you've
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: spoken about your feet at length, But it seemed like
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: you guys had a really fun locker room in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, I had a lot of fun. The
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  Speaker 8: guys are great.
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  Speaker 10: Uh, anybody who's played their kind of nose. That's really
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 10: all there is is ball and city loves you, and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 10: if you work hard, it like kind of turns over
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: you're winning games. And when you're winning games, freaking no
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 10: matter where you're at, it's freaking great. So yeah, I
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 10: had a great time there and I was able to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 10: be barefoot and wild and yeah, oh that time, they
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 10: just embraced it, and like people started wearing no shoes
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 10: in the snow and I was like, hey, I'm not
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 10: liable for any of that shit.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are you going no shoes in the snow?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 10: On the on the walk in, yeah, walk in. No
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  Speaker 10: matter what the temperature is, I'm going barefoot. But if
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  Speaker 10: it gets blowed thirty five, it's just I don't know.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 10: I think the word I guess people use would be
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 10: the placcification of America. People are so soft now, like,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 10: bro do something hard for once. It's not even hard
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  Speaker 10: to wear no shoes, But like if it gets blowed
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 10: thirty five. I'm not an idiot, like I'll put shoes on,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 10: but walking into games, no matter what, I have to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 10: be barefoot.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: How long you've been doing this.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 8: For walking in the games? Probably three four years?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so I got hurt seven years ago, started training barefoot.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 10: Found these guys in Australia called m MT. They trained,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: They showed up to Philly. I flew him out, freaking
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 10: barefoot out off the plane. I'm like, the fuck are
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: you doing? Same way y'all look at me. That's how
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 10: I looked at them. Started training with them, and then
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 10: like three four years ago, I was like, what's the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 10: point of the shoes?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 10: I just don't pack them and sit. Other than bathrooms
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: and airports is the only time I were.
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  Speaker 1: Shoes really, So you you obviously going to a restaurant
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  Speaker 1: they excuse me, sir.
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  Speaker 10: If I'm by myself like this, and if they kicked
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 10: me out, so be it. But if I'm with the group,
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  Speaker 10: I'm gonna wear shoes like I'm not gonna screw the whole. Yeah,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 10: but by myself I'll get kicked out of places all
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 10: the time.
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  Speaker 4: But you probably have to be so thankful you found this.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: You found this group in Australia.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah you did.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I was like about to retire, Like
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: I couldn't walk for a year, Like just came off
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 10: the Super Bowl, just won a Super Bowl and then
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 10: for six eight months couldn't walk. I was like, yo,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 10: I just was at the peak too, I can't do anything.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: What was the injury again, grunt? I had a growin.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: I had surgery.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: Three months later toward the other side, had surgery again,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: and like couldn't walk, couldn't get back from it.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: And what was these Australians, these barefoot of Australians. What
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: is the method behind?
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  Speaker 10: So they're called Melbourne Muscular Therapy. So muscular therapy is
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 10: like their main thing body work. But then they also
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 10: do so I was doing whim Hoff stuff. I was
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 10: doing like breathing exercise, eye gazing, where you like sit
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 10: interests from each other and stare in each other eyes.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Literally.
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  Speaker 10: The first thing they did when they got to my house,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: they blindfolded me, picked me up on their shoulders to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 10: start carrying around the neighborhood. And this is like Philly
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 10: and our season is not going too hot at the time,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 10: so now they see my weird ass doing this, and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 10: I'm like, what's going on, and they're like, we just
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 10: want you to know that, no matter what, like we
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 10: got you. And at that point I was like, whatever,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 10: I'm about to retire, I'll do whatever y'all say. And
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 10: then within like three months, I was back running again.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 10: And you know when you get hurt and you all
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 10: of a sudden get that like, oh I might be
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 10: able to do this again.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it freaking change everything.
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  Speaker 1: Everything you're explaining to me sounds like the beginning of
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: a cult.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 10: Sometimes the cults are right though, you know you're coptime.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: I'm scared even asking which cult is right?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Right exactly?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: You got your yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: No doubt, but did you? So they're picking you up
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: there walking around Philly, and all of a sudden, you
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: can you walk and feel great a few months later.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, the body work is the main thing. So
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 10: they did bodywork on me. I would say between six
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 10: and eight hours a day for two weeks straight. So
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 10: I'm getting forty plus hours a week of like bodywork,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 10: holding muscles, just completely releasing all the tension in my body.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: In their mind, your body's kind of like a plumbing
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 10: system and they're just clogs all over the place, So
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: how can we help you unclog so everything flows properly.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 10: And that's what they did. Like you know, when you
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: have a surgery, you wake up and your brain doesn't know.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: What's going on. It just wakes up.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: It's like, oh shit, this is this is completely different
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 8: than what it was. Now just get fixed.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 10: And we're just so trained to Yep, you have surgery,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 10: so you're good, which your brain doesn't know. It went
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: to sleep and it couldn't really control or had pain
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 10: somewhere and it wakes up and like, now it doesn't
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 10: know what's going on. So I think that second surgery
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: just kind of shut everything down and they were able
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 10: to get me back on.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: For the last couple of minutes. I would love to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: know what is your favorite thing about coach Rabel and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: what is one thing.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: You don't you think should work on you think he
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: can work on?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: There we go because I was like, iron.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 10: I think he What I love is that he'll he'll
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: get the competitiveness out of me. I love talking ship.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: I think he does too. And it gets that even
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 10: though he's getting older and you kind of lose that
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: that t level and that and that competitive, like I'm
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 10: still a player, but he still has Yeah, he still
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: has it and you can get it out of him
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 10: and it's uh and it's great things that he could
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: work on or improved.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 8: I feel like sometimes he gets soft on the guys.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: Now you know, oh you think so?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he gets.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 10: I think it's more of a cb A thing than
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 10: him though. I think he wants to get us to work,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: but I think he's like kind of forced not to.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: And sometimes I look at him, I think he really
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: wants to like spaz on dudes, you know, like if
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 10: somebody came late, how it probably was before the CPA
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 10: changed a little bit and you couldn't be as like
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 10: stricter guys. I think he still has it in him
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 10: and he wants to let it out, Like I don't
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 10: think he's allowed to anymore.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: So you think he's lost if you think he's got
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: a little soft Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is the pacification of America. Raves
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: is a part of that.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: No, not really, it's like forced on him.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean like yeah, he's picked up bull Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 10: Like yeah, like he really wants to just spas on
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 10: somebody for like coming late or like doing some shit
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: that like constantly happens, but he just like not allowed to.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: Can see it because I'm front row, and I'm like,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 10: I think, I think he's about to do it.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: He's gonna do it, and he's like, I.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: Can't do you look at him in like a way
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: like you're kind of sad for him because he's coming.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, because now it's like this Twitter
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 10: age like in thirty minutes will come out that Raves
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: yelled at somebody and all of a sudden, Yeah, we
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 10: gotta shut the team.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: When you see it in him, next time, you should
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: just whisper it out, bro, do we gotta? Are we good?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll listen to your thank man. We know you
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: guys are in the schedule. We appreciate you taking that.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, appreciate it.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, appreciate it.