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10/06/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Bring it to you on this lovely Tuesday game day
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  Speaker 1: in the good land. Brewers play the Padres game three
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: this evening. Petco Park is going to be electric there.
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  Speaker 1: It is going to be a late start. So let's
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  Speaker 1: plan our naps accordingly. And next week we won't have
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: to worry about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is the day, Drew, where I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to start trying to force feed a nap to
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  Speaker 2: the three year old because he is he has been daddy.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: I don't take no nap anymore. I don't take a
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: nap anymore. I'm too old for that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm three and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: I'm three and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm 32 and a half, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: need at least an hour and a half. So we're
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: going to need at least some kind of nap here
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  Speaker 2: because this 830 first pitch is going to come later
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  Speaker 2: and later than we think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're playing in the middle of the night no matter, well,
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  Speaker 3: depending on how you see it. Either we or maybe
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  Speaker 3: we just get up in the middle of the night,
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  Speaker 3: one or the other. Could be.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I had a thought driving in, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some things I'll miss about this shift, especially our smart,
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: good-looking listeners, 5 o'clock lovers, some things I won't. In
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: the pre-dawn hours when you're driving, what makes your heart
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  Speaker 1: rate go up, spike higher? Is it on the freeway
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  Speaker 1: when you're cruising at, you know, 4 a.m. speed, and
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  Speaker 1: you see in your peripheral vision that squad car hidden
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  Speaker 1: behind a barricade.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because if he's bored, I mean, what am I
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  Speaker 3: going to do?
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  Speaker 1: That just happened to me again this morning, where it's like,
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  Speaker 1: I know their hiding spot, and yet it still sneaks
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  Speaker 1: up on me all the time. Every time. And then
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  Speaker 1: I look, and I'm like, uh-oh. If he feels like
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  Speaker 1: hooking me, I'm getting pulled over. No, I did not.
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  Speaker 3: I was driving.
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  Speaker 1: 69, 70?
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Because I try to keep it. Which is the going speed.
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  Speaker 1: No one's passing me. I'm not passing anybody. I was
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  Speaker 1: going to say, you're going by the flow of 4 a.m. traffic.
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  Speaker 1: The flow of traffic. The speed limit at that time
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  Speaker 1: should be 70 because effectively it is. What everyone's going
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  Speaker 1: is what you're going. There's no dense traffic. It's not
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  Speaker 1: in any way dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: But you do know if that guy is having himself
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  Speaker 2: a morning. And if he sat there and they did
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  Speaker 2: not have the kind of blueberry glazers he planned on
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  Speaker 2: being able to grab.
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  Speaker 3: We are going to have ourselves a problem.
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  Speaker 1: As I drive, and I'm driving, like, I'm about a
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  Speaker 1: quarter mile away. I'm looking in the rear view to
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  Speaker 1: see if he's going to pull out. I'm like, nope. Thankfully,
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  Speaker 1: he's still eating the glazer. Nothing like that hard punk.
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  Speaker 1: So that got me going. And then I'm doing the math.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it is only the sixth. So they're
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  Speaker 1: not at the end of the month, the quota thing
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  Speaker 1: that you worry about?
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  Speaker 3: Is that true?
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  Speaker 1: Is he a close yard at the end? I'll have
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  Speaker 1: to ask my dad, because my dad was in law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: He taught the police camp. I'll have to find out
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  Speaker 1: if that's true or not. I always wonder if that's
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  Speaker 1: like a... I do know, he did admit to me
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  Speaker 1: that early in his career, when he had to work
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  Speaker 1: during Packer games, he was pissed and write more tickets. Oh, for, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm out here, you're going to be. If you're
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  Speaker 1: speeding at all, five over. Good luck.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that.
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  Speaker 2: Your date is not great.
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  Speaker 1: Heart palpitates. And then that's one thing. And usually, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Heart spiked back down.
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  Speaker 2: Normal.
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  Speaker 1: I'm, I'm caffeine free, but I don't need it. Cause
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  Speaker 1: I got the, I got the flutter going.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Then I exit and I start to work my way
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  Speaker 1: to the Megaplex through the residential area that we have to,
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  Speaker 1: where the Megaplex is, is located. I know what you're
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  Speaker 1: going to say. And then I see the deer on
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  Speaker 1: the peripheral. I see the deer lurking right off the road.
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  Speaker 1: And like, oh, you dummies, you better not. You better not.
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  Speaker 1: Just know where you're at. That made me like also
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  Speaker 1: the second heart spike of the day happened then. Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I got two for one today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go with Bambi because as much
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  Speaker 2: as as much as the police officer is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a fickle conversation, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like it was is not going to possibly expensive. They're
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  Speaker 1: both potentially expensive.
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  Speaker 2: Both could be very potentially very expensive. And the one
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  Speaker 2: I'm then also going to have to live with the
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  Speaker 2: idea and the vision of that big old hairy beast
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  Speaker 2: rolling up the hood into the windshield. Or like when
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  Speaker 2: my sister hit one, when I was in high school,
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  Speaker 2: it just bounced off the hood, bounced off the concrete
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  Speaker 2: and just started running. But I keep that vision is
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  Speaker 2: in my mind pretty well entrenched, I think for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of my life. So that's where I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: go with the copper. But man, when Bambi pokes those
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  Speaker 2: little two eyes out at you and you just see
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  Speaker 2: it from the corner, And you don't slow at all,
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  Speaker 2: and you realize, he was three steps and one good
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  Speaker 2: blade of grass on the other side of that.
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  Speaker 3: Concrete away from us, both having a rough morning. Especially, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: every morning, Drew. I mean, when I make that turn
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  Speaker 3: on Beloit and to Howard, although the thing is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if they're under the streetlights... On that intersection, you can
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  Speaker 3: see them at the corner like I did this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you get a little further. But if
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  Speaker 1: you get a little further. A couple hundred yards further,
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  Speaker 1: they're in the, and it's thick there. That's where they
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  Speaker 1: hang out. I see them during the day walking out there.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, I don't see them hanging
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  Speaker 1: out in the streetlights very much. I see them hanging
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  Speaker 1: out away from them. Luckily, old girl was there today.
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  Speaker 3: But there's other times where there's just, you know, they're
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  Speaker 3: just hanging out in the dark, and there's like six
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  Speaker 3: of them. And this is about the time, at least
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  Speaker 3: I think, coming up when the rut starts. I have
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  Speaker 3: to get Aaron Tasker and all of our boys back.
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  Speaker 1: There to inform me.
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  Speaker 3: But they're starting to chase each other for amorous reasons.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other time of this. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: you can at least see the deer somewhat because they're
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  Speaker 3: somewhat larger. But wait until that rafter of turkey starts
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  Speaker 3: rolling through. Because they were there on the street yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: like 10 of them. And good thing I hit the brakes.
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  Speaker 3: And they roll like a hockey team. Like a hockey team.
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  Speaker 1: They roll deep. Deer are moving.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Cherokees are moving. They don't care what you think.
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  Speaker 3: They see some whatever they're at. Black walnuts falling from
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  Speaker 3: that tree on the ground. And they're eating those walnuts.
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  Speaker 3: And they don't really care.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, kudos to Armand for knowing that a
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  Speaker 1: group of turkeys is not a flock.
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  Speaker 3: It's a rafter. That's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, at 5.08, we had a
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  Speaker 2: rafter of turkeys, and we had the ruck season for deer.
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  Speaker 3: That Marquette education.
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  Speaker 1: Hot streets here in October. Goodness gracious. Mutual of Omaha's
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: wild kingdom, wildlife with the huddle.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we said you were going to get something in
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  Speaker 2: this 5 o'clock hour that you did not plan on.
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  Speaker 3: That's very true. Since it's expiring, we got to cash in.
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  Speaker 1: Very true.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is, when we do make the flip
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  Speaker 1: and the clocks turn, like I said yesterday, our clocks
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: are turning a couple weeks early. Because if you missed
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  Speaker 1: the memo, this is our last week of doing this
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  Speaker 1: shift from 5 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: To 8 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: This show is moving to 2 p.m. to 5 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: weekdays starting Monday, October 12th. But then when we leave
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  Speaker 1: in the winter, it'll be dark again. So we'll be
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  Speaker 1: dealing with the same kind of deer issues. 100%. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to thank everybody. I'm sure you guys too. 95%
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  Speaker 1: positive reactions to our move. People are very encouraged.
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  Speaker 3: They're glad. Wonderful to see you.
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  Speaker 1: I got a couple of, some of our old friends,
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: my buddy, Chef Adam Pavlak, like the first text I
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: got at like nine o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I like to hear.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, great. I can come back on.
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  Speaker 3: Like, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And then I got a text from our pal, Aaron Nagler.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations on the time change. I can join you guys again.
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  Speaker 3: And I, Yeah, let's go. I saw Nagler throwing up
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: screenshots of DMs on Twitter. That was the text.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: He'll be very happy for Kiriachi Radio, the podcast, not
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: being a 9 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Production anymore. Matt Miller, I heard from, said, come on.
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  Speaker 1: That's part of our, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel guilty asking you to come on hour one.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: We have lots of friends, folks, believe it or not,
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: and they like to come on with us, and we
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: just didn't want to ask them to do it this
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  Speaker 1: early because, you know.
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  Speaker 3: We know that we wouldn't want to get up early
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  Speaker 3: to just jump on the radio show.
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  Speaker 2: And Drew, you're right. It was 95% positive. And the
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: slight ones that were disappointed were not frustrated and angry. Well, dang,
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: that kind of stinks because the way and when I
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: can listen, this is my pocket.
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  Speaker 1: But good for you guys. Congratulations. And hopefully it works out.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that was the one part where we
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: do a lot of this stuff together, whether or not
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: it always feels as much. This is as much of
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: a listener show as our show. It's all of our show.
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: And whenever you can consume it, you'll be able to,
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: and it's very nice to know that, you know, one
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons why this is happening. is because
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  Speaker 2: of the amount of people that followed us to 5 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully there'll be a ton that follow us to 2
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: to 5 p.m., and then who knows? Because as much
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: as I got out of it, too, and very happy
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: that our folks on 1070 and Madison will know, we
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: are doing the show on 1070 Madison.
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: We are doing the show on 1070 Madison, and people
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: in Madison are like, thank goodness, now there's finally something
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: sports to listen to in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: We're here for you. We are here for you.
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  Speaker 2: And Milwaukee, since there hasn't been anything good to listen
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: to in the afternoon on sports, now you got something
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: there as well.
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  Speaker 3: Now you go. Yeah. We're back at it. So kudos.
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  Speaker 1: Kudos, everybody. Thank you. We appreciate it. And again, it's
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: not like we're not happy to be abandoning the 5
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: o'clock club and stuff. It's just that we're, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But for our lifestyles, it is going to be better
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: to be able to not have to plan naps to
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: watch an 8 o'clock first pitch.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great example.
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  Speaker 1: To be able to, you know. watch the end of games,
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: attend games. Potentially hit some West Coast games.
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: We want to give you the best of us.
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  Speaker 1: And the best offshoot of this is that we can
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: actually get out and do shows like we do.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: I love the.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Pottawatomie show on Thursday, the Thursday Night Huddle, the Pottawatomie
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: sports book in the annex. We'll be there again this
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: Thursday from 5 to 7 p.m. Well, now we'll be there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, earlier. But it's a chance to get out
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: and see people in person. Because when we're just three
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: guys in a room, sometimes you forget there's people out there.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: You can actually see them and interact and find out
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: what they think. And they give you feedback on the
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: shows and stuff that we talk about. So stuff that
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: they remember us talking about, it's just better.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice to put a face to the name, too,
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  Speaker 3: when you're out there and you come say hi to us.
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: Charlie Cutting Greens has been texting into us the whole time,
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  Speaker 3: but seeing him at Potawatomi the other day was fantastic.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: Getting some Vegas stories was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: Some great stories about Vegas and the Vegas Armenians that
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: he knows. I mean, it was just fantastic. So those
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: are the interactions we live for that we enjoy. The
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: reason we do this, obviously, because we love to do it,
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  Speaker 3: but to connect with the community, with the audience, with
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: you guys, and to build that. So it's really fantastic,
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: and glad to be able to do it. And we'll
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: be a lot of me longer now that's right with
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: those nights.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness yeah that's a bummer all right 877-794-1973
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: gets you to the nicoletlaw.com talk and text line brewers
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: padres today um the other side of the bracket is
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: trending in an interesting way with the Yankees on the ropes.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: The Rays take game two. The Yankees committed five errors
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: and then there was a scoring change so it was
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: only four. They butchered the ball all over the field.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Not great, Bob. And the White Sox on the brink
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: of making it to the ALCS.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: What a shocking development. If anyone told you that a
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: couple years ago, you would have said what?
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: A couple years ago on opening weekend.
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, I guess you're right.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: Sorry, when Murph went up to the podium and said,
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys, this White Sox team is going.
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: To be good.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: All right, Patrick. We appreciate the confidence that you have
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: in that old ball club. But here they are on
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: the doorstep of the ALCS. And they go down 2-0 yesterday.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: Game couldn't have started better for the Guardians, and they
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  Speaker 2: still just stayed in it, hung in it, and ended
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  Speaker 2: up finding a way to win.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: And found a way to win when.
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  Speaker 3: The Guardians had a couple close calls late. You know,
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: they had one off the top of the wall that
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: would have tied it. It became a triple. But, hey,
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: the last out was to the wall. The pale hosiers, man,
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: from the Windy City. Pretty impressive because, you know, I
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: know every time they win, it annoys Cubs fans even more.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still thinking about that. Yeah, I am. I'm happy
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  Speaker 3: about that. It was a weak AL Central, but hey,
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: they took advantage, and now they have a chance to
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: clinch at home a postseason series for the first time, guys,
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  Speaker 3: in 126 years. That's pretty amazing. You call them the
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Pale Hosers? Well, you know, White Sox, Pale Hosers.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: You like that? The Pale Hose. Boy, he's on his
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: R on it, but it's Pale Hose for years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Pale Hose.
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  Speaker 3: Got it. Okay, yeah. That makes a lot more sense.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: Pale Hose.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Wow. And then tonight, while we're waiting for the Brewers'
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: first pitch, we get to see the Dodgers and Atlanta.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Dodgers going on the road, facing Chris Sale, tied 1-1
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  Speaker 1: with a chance to go down 2-1. And they lost
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: home field, and they're at Truist Park. So the bracket's
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: getting interesting, boys.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know how you feel about it, Drew,
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  Speaker 2: because I read some kind of Dave Roberts message of
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: they set out their series line or their, their series
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  Speaker 2: rotation with the NLCS in mind.
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  Speaker 1: I bet they did.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, I don't know what here is Bob
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  Speaker 2: Nightingale said it on October 3rd, Dave Roberts said the
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: rotation order of Scooble Snell and Yamamoto was put in
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  Speaker 2: place with the NLCS in mind. That's a nice way
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: to live to, to just plan on being able to
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: know that you're going to go on to the next round.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think that they were planning on getting curd
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  Speaker 2: in the second game of that series where, you know, the,
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: the Braves just bullpen them. and that, was it Ray Kerr,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Roy Kerr? My man's been phenomenal to start out. He
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: was an opener in the wild card series, opener there
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  Speaker 2: in game two. They snatch it back, and now you
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  Speaker 2: get what usually would be a game one with two
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  Speaker 2: aces and two of the best guys in ball on
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: game three to start up basically a three-game series. I mean,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that one, and let that
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: go as long as possible. One of these games hit
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: into like 16 or 17 innings. And then you take
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: care of your business tonight and that, uh, and that
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: little problem in San Diego and get yourself onto another
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  Speaker 2: mini bi-week.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be nice. So yeah, we got, you know,
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: we gotta, we have to nap today to get ready
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  Speaker 1: and then, uh, but I'll be napping again tomorrow. Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: will be a double header for me because, um, well,
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: we'll see. It could, might be a double header if
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: the brewers don't prevail tonight and sweep. Um, We'll have
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: another game late, 9 o'clock start tomorrow. And tomorrow night,
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite artists is coming to town, playing
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  Speaker 1: Shank Hall, Rhett Miller, lead singer of the Old 97s,
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  Speaker 1: longtime friend of the show. When I was in Afternoons
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: last time, he was our Cowboys correspondent because he's a
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Cowboys fan.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: I like that, right in time.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Not only is he a Cowboys fan, before his family,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: his paternal grandfather founded the Cowboys, basically. Wow. Interesting cat.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: That was back in the day. So Rhett Miller's playing
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Shank Hall. And then he's playing Shank Hall on Wednesday
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: night and then playing Chicago on Thursday. And Friday and Saturday,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: he's playing in Spring Green, kind of outside of Madison
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: at a place that we can't name the venue. It's
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: the Blank Barn. Might rhyme with hitty. Great name for
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: an intimate performance venue.
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  Speaker 3: Very intimate. Save harbor until six.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's good. So, Brett is playing three shows in
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: the area, and I geek out about music, and I've
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: known Brett a long time, and I've interviewed him several times,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: and he's been just a good friend, and I love
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: it when he comes to town, and I had a
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: chance to catch up with him, and we're going to
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: spin through that conversation next. So buckle up. This is
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: indulgence for me, you boys. Thank you, Billy and Armin,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: for letting me indulge and scratch my musical itch here.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I want to go to the barn.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no doubt.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: We will have my conversation with Rhett Miller of the
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Old 97s, who's playing shows locally. Shank Hall on Wednesday night.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: And Peter Jess, the proprietor of Shank Hall, has told
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: me if the Brewers have a game, he's going to
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: move the start time of the show up.
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  Speaker 3: An hour.
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  Speaker 4: Smart man.
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  Speaker 1: Turn it into a doubleheader so that then Rhett will
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: be done by like 9.15, 9.30.
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  Speaker 3: One of us.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: And then you won't miss that much of a game.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be a natural doubleheader. So that is all pending,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: but our conversation with Rhett Miller is up next. You're
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin. ladies and gentlemen
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the huddle fox sports radio wisconsin drew
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: olson armin sarian and bill schmidt we welcome a special
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: guest one of my favorite creatives in the world front
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: man for the old 97 solo artist extraordinaire visiting milwaukee
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  Speaker 1: on wednesday to play at shank hall and then the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: madison area for the weekend it is ret miller it's
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: miller time in the huddle ret nice to see you
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: nice to talk to you again my friend hi drew
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: how are you doing man fantastic i was just looking
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: through some old stuff and i realized that the first
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: time we did an interview was almost 20 years ago
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: you were getting ready to play shank hall and it
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: was this time of year i mean you must love
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the midwest in october and i said hey you're gonna
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: it was it was september i think i take that
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: back and i'm like hey you're gonna go uh you
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: were gonna play wrigley you're gonna play uh chicago first
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: and i was like you're gonna go to wrigley field
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: at all for a game you said no i'd love
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to go to a packer's And you ended up going
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: to a Packers game with some guys that I know
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: that weekend. And that was like 20 years ago. You
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: guys were just about to put out Blame It On Gravity.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And you were doing the solo thing. And that was
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: almost 20 years ago, man.
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  Speaker 4: What a great memory. Yeah, I took my son, who
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: is now a man in his 20s, just living in
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: New York City. But what a memory getting to go
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: see a game at Lambeau. I was the game that
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: got Wade Phillips fired, if you'll remember.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Indeed.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: And ever since then, the Cowboys have just been experiencing
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: unmitigated success. It's been a nonstop avalanche of winning.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It has. I love the sarcasm here. It's well-suited. Well,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Packers are struggling, and it's uncharted territory in these parts.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: So now it's like, you think we've got it bad?
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Just imagine being a Cowboys fan like Rhett.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Seriously. It's the worst. My bandmates hate me because I'm out.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, guys, I'm out. I can't take Jerry
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Jones for one more minute. I'm shopping for a new team.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: For a while, I thought it was Houston, and that
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: made them so angry. Like, I don't know. Maybe, I
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: don't know. Who should I be rooting for? Don't say
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: the Packers.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I won't say the Packers. We might have to find
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: an adoptive team, too, if this continues, if this struggles.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: It won't be the Bears. That's for damn sure. I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: know you spent some time in Chicago, but I can't
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: handle that. That's a good question. Jacksonville. They're kind of new.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, I live in New York and I obviously
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: never root for the Giants, but maybe I root for
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: the Jets. Are they good now? Is that happening?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Not yet. They're still play the Packers tough, but they're
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: not good yet. They're not great. It's yeah, I heard. Well,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I thought after training camp, I thought you and Ken
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: have decided that the Cowboys are going to win the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did write that in Rolling Stone, but I've
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: walked that back a little bit.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see why. All right, let's talk music.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: First of all, you, I mean, back when I used
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to cover baseball, I thought I was a road warrior
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: because I spent like between 90 and 100 days a
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: year on the road. You just came off of a
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: spring summer tour with the old 97s and now you
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: got to get right back out of the house. Is
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: everything okay at home, Red? Is everything good? Good.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Well, it's funny you ask. I've now, I'm an empty nester.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: So I'm allowed to leave home without traumatizing a young person.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: There you go. Okay. That's, that's a, that is a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: part of the rock and roll curve, right? Like now
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you can guilt free on the road because your wife probably,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: if you're home, it's okay. If you're not, it's okay.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I am also into my fifth consecutive year of
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: paying for a kid in college. So it's like, I
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: got a jam. I got to work.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: That'll get you as much as possible. So coming back
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to venerable Shank Hall, you played Milwaukee plenty, both solo
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and with the band was, what is it about this market?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: You seem to always draw a crowd. You have people
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: who have seen you many times over the years and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: going back to the globe days on North Avenue. And
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: then you have people that are new that just discovered you.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: There's a funny thing that happens when musicians talk, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: it's always, what are the coolest towns?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: What do I mean?
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: The best market is a good question because people talk
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: about where do people show up for your show. And Milwaukee,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: at some point in the last however many years, became
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: just a really good market, which is nice. But for me,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the secret is that Milwaukee is actually one of the
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: coolest towns in America. And it doesn't get the pub
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: that like Austin, Seattle, Nashville. I just think there's something sneaky,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: amazing about Milwaukee. And it's one of the few places
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I could live there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I love to hear that. See, that warms the cockles.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: That's great PR. You're also big in Madison. You got
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Shank Hall on Wednesday night, Chicago on Thursday, and then
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a couple of shows at a venue who I can't
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: name on the radio because of FCC regulations, but it's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a barn in Spring Green, a bleepy barn in Spring Green. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And from what I can gather, it's a very cool venue.
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  Speaker 4: People love it. I guess both of the shows are
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: already sold out. But it's like it is not the
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: adjective that we can't say on the radio that's being
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: used to describe it in its title. It's actually a
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: kick-ass place.
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  Speaker 1: Our listeners in that area, in the 608 area code,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: they'll know what we're talking about. And I'm sure they've
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: probably seen shows there. Um, your solo shows are, it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: not the coffee house. It's not a guy in the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: corner of a Panera bread, you know, working stuff out. Um,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: there's a rock element and a physicality to your solo
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: shows that people might not expect. Maybe not as much
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: as jumping off of the drum kit, uh, at a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: 97 show, but you do work up a sweat and
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: generally the audience does as well. Has it always been
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that way when you played out or is that you've
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: been playing, you know, since you were about 14 or
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: 15 playing, you know, solo shows right.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah my my earliest stuff was all in high school
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: i would play i would open for punk rock bands
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: around dallas you know when the lords of the new
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: church came through a red cross and i'd be a
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: little teenage kid with an acoustic guitar but i just
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: i i feel like it for me it's a binary
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: thing like i'm either uh not doing anything or i'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: on stage just giving 100 percent And it's just who
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I am, man. I don't know how I always tell myself,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: all right, just chill out tonight. Take it easy. You
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: don't have to rock so hard. They're going to be
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: happy no matter what. And I get up there and
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: it's just like, I can't help it. This is what
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: That's what they used to say about Giannis. It didn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: matter if they were playing a exhibition game in Brookings,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: South Dakota. He was going so hard that they had to,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you couldn't protect him from himself. He's just going to
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: go that hard. Now that you've had throat surgery and your,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: your voice is titanium. You can play these shows every night.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Aren't there some shows where you open for the 97s
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: playing solo stuff? That's happened before, right?
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, I do, especially when I have a new
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: solo record out. I'll talk them into letting me open
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: the show. Yeah, it's a lot. It's like three hours
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: of screaming, basically. But I don't know. What else am
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I going to be doing? Watching Love Island? That's it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, who does that? Who opens
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: for themselves? Unless it's a Halloween gag or something. You
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: guys do that as a gag. and come out in
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: costume and play surf music or something or Beach Boys
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: covers or become a tribute band.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good idea. I like that. I'll use that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I once saw U2 at the Hoosier Dome on a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Halloween night, and they came out and they made this announcement.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It seemed so stark, like U2' s plane has been delayed,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, the show will be delayed. And Los
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Lobos and Milwaukee's own Bodine's were on the bill opening.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: But the band before them was like, we're a local
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: band from Indianapolis. U2 is going to be late. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it was, they called themselves the Dalton Brothers. And they
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: played like three or four country songs. And the people
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: up front were going nuts. They didn't know the video
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: on in a stadium of 75,000 people. People up front
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: were going nuts because they could see it was Bono
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and The Edge and Adam and Larry. They opened for
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: themselves in costume incognito. And it was one of the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: most badass things I've ever seen.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Pretty cool.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So next time you guys have a show on Halloween,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: but you guys tend to play out in the summer.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Is that one of the things about, Being an established band,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you get to pick when you go out?
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm always playing because if the band's
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: on tour, I feel like we do the East Coast
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: in the spring and then the West Coast in the winter.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man. I just show up where they
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: tell me and I do the thing. But yeah, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: have very little control over it. I should probably look
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: into exerting more. I am the lead singer. Wow.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You probably should. But the thing is though, like there's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: two schools of thought in the summer, it's all festivals
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and there's millions of play. You play outside and you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you know, as a friend of mine says, anything that's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: outside in Wisconsin in the summer, if there's a parking lot,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: people will stand around and drink. So it's like, doesn't,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you know, you can put anything up there. Puppet shows,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: people will withdraw because people like to go drink outside.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: But Once it starts to get cold and school is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: back in and people are kind of moving indoors, there's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: an appeal to doing that too. If you're a good
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: band and a good artist, people will come and find you.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But there is that kind of school of thought like, hey,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: let's go out when people are looking for something to
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: do inside. Because around these parts, Rhett, it's a little
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: bit different in the Hudson Valley, but the nice weather
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is precious in these parts. So we maximize. Summer's turned
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: up to 11 here.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I will say that when you come through, because in
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the earliest days of the band, we used to tour
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: a lot, especially through Wisconsin and Chicago in the winter.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: People are so grateful to have something to do in
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the winter, to get them out of the house. They
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: will show up. Our first gig in Milwaukee was at
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: a place called the Globe Theater, I think. We pulled in,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I think, five people. And we ended up owing more
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: on our bar tab than we made that night at
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: the club. But somebody extended an invitation that we could
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: sleep on the floor at the, what's the sausage, the
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: big sausage company?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Usinger's.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So we slept on the floor of the sausage company. And,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: you know, it was pretty great. We keep coming back.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: You keep coming back. Your history in Madison is well documented, too,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of the guys who founded the Onion, became friends, right?
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to sleep in the church where they
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: all lived when they started that newspaper. And I always
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: would call the pool table because I figured it was
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: cleaner than the floor or the couch.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It was hard, though.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's hard.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Do you miss those days? You look back and you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: wonder how you could do it as a man now,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: empty nester who's raised two children. Do you marvel at
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the things you ate and the way you lived?
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: You know, I do. I don't miss them, but And
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I've never been nostalgic, so I usually don't think about
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: them at all. But in the last six, eight months,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: the old 97s have been the subject of a documentary,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: a film crew following us around for months. And then
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: in the last month or so, I've been going through
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: all these old photos and videos for the documentary filmmakers
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: to try and give them stuff for their movie. And honestly,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: it's such great memories. I have so many great memories
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: of the early days in the band. And it was
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: squalid and it was uncomfortable. And we would, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: we would lose. I remember a night sleeping. We were
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: on our way to a gig in the Midwest and
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: the van got stuck in a snow drift and we
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: just had to try and not freeze. So we would
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: keep the engine on until it would start to fill
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: the van up with carbon monoxide. And then we would
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: turn the engine off and open the windows. But then
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: it would get so cold, we'd have to go back
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and forth throughout the night and try not to die.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: And I think we had a bottle of Duars, which
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: we didn't drink, that some club had given us that
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: kept us warm, I guess. It was awful and it
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: was the best.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Both things can be true. Rhett Miller joining us from
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the Old 97 Solo Show, Wednesday, Shank Hall, Farwell Avenue
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. And of course, on the weekend, Spring Green
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: at the Bleepy Barn. Look It Up, Spring Green Barn,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Expletive Barn. It's a great name for a venue. I've
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: got to get a T-shirt, I think.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The S.E. Barn. The S.E.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Barn. Yes, that's it. It rhymes with hitty. Yeah. Too funny.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: And just so folks know, most of the show is
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: all 97 songs. I think some people think I'm going
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: to only play songs off solo records that I've made,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: and I'm not a monster. I get it. So most
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: of the songs are 97s. There's a few solos. few
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: solo songs snuck in there, maybe a random cover here
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: and there.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You have enough. Now you have enough of a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: solo catalog that I imagine it's hard to come up
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: with the set list and play stuff to keep yourself
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: interested and keep the songs alive from like the instigator
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: or the traveler. It's been, you know, you there, if
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you're a Rhett Miller fan and old 97 zealot, you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: probably come away going, I wish you to play this
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: or that show. Come on, dude.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I think about it all the time and it's impossible
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: to cover everything. It's a, I can't even play a
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: song off of every old 97s record, much less every
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: old 97s and solo record. So, but I do think
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: about it, you know, and most, you know, most of
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: the songs will be old 97 songs from the electric years,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: just because numbers, you know, those were the records that
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: cut through the noise the most. And so of people
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: that show up, I know their favorite songs are going
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: to be on those records. And, but then I know
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: other people, are going to have favorites scattered throughout the
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: rest of the band in my catalog. So I really
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: try and cover everything. But man, if I don't play it,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I might play it next time I come back because
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I mix it up.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Every once in a while when I'm on a plane
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: or those rare times that I'm working out, something will
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: come up from the Grand Theater or something. It's like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: oh man, this was a sweet period for the band.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It's an underrated era. That double album you guys did,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that was very cool.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Those records are coming out on vinyl. That
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: was during our New West era. We spent about 10
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: years from 2003 to 2013 on New West. Those records
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: were pretty great. It's funny. That was latter career stuff,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: but it was also 20 years ago. Like, how does
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: that even happen?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: That's, and that's the thing. Well, and like Blame It
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: On Gravity was about 20 years ago, right? That was
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: in that period. And I think the first time we spoke,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: you were just, you guys were just finishing that up
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and it was getting ready to come out. You were
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: excited about that, but then, you know, you got the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: itch and had to come to Milwaukee to play a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: solo show.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Man, I gotta, I gotta keep feeding my children every day.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Even when they're out of the house. Yeah. Somehow they're
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: still on scholarship. Well, I went back and looked at
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that interview. And one of the things we talked about
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: was it was just becoming, and this was 2007. And
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it was like, Hey, and the labels you had been,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you've had your ups and downs with labels. Like everybody
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of your age has, and like anybody in the music
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: industry has, but it was like, Hey, is this like the,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: is this going to be web-based or is it, what's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it going to, and we couldn't have foreshadowed like bands
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: breaking on Tik TOK now and band, you know, bands
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: doing their own thing. independent and you were saying how, yeah,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: it might go that way where, you know, labels will
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: be less, you know, involved and we know they don't develop.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: They just take a rake. So where is the music
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: industry now? You guys have reached a comfortable point where
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you can draw crowds in a lot of towns around
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the country. You can play any summer you want. You
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: can go out whenever you want. Not a lot of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: bands reach that. If, if, if you had to go
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: back and live and squalor and do it all over again,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the landscape has changed so much. What would it be like?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: So I recently took a job, like I already do
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: big songwriting retreats out in the mountains once a year,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: but I took a job teaching undergraduates at the college
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: where my daughter goes in Greenwich Village in New York.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: And it's awesome teaching undergrads, but it is so tough
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: when they ask me, what am I supposed to do?
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: How do I do this? What's my strategy to like
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: get popular, make a living? And I'm like, bro, I
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: have no idea anymore how you would do it. because
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: it's got to be social media based. I don't know, man.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: It's a little bit bleak, but I will say this.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Young people still write songs. Young people still care about music.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Young people still go to shows and see other people
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: their age who write songs and care about music. It's
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: not like there's no hope. People that want to do
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: music who have no choice in their psyche other than
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: to do music, they'll always do music. People always go
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: see shows and need music. Just whether or not they
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: can get paid for it. That's, that's the trickier thing,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: but everything is cyclical. I'm sure it's going to come
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: back around.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Well, they always, you're the cautionary tale. Your parents, your
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: parents around the world, you better have a fallback plan.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And here you've made your life as a musician. You're
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: already a one percenter because your life's work has been
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: doing this and avoiding, you know, real nine to five
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: work and cubicle hell. Right. So you're, you're an outlier already,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but I see the new generation and I, I'm a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: little nervous counting on the youngsters, but the kids now
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: with guitars and drums are going to be our last
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: line of defense against AI. Cause it's going to be
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: like the last, what else is there creatively? Like they're, they're,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: they're the bulwark. They're like the last line for us
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to keep producing new stuff and not let just machines,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, run our lives and produce everything that we consume.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Well, the nice thing about like what I do and
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: what these, you know, undergraduates that I'm working with do is,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: When you show up in a room with your musical
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: instruments and your songs, and then other people show up there,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: it's the kind of thing that can't be replicated, certainly
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: not by an algorithm or an artificial intelligence. It's human
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: beings in a room together singing along. Then it's songs
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: that somebody wrote that now other people have sort of
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: memorized and love. And that's a really special thing. And
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I think that as humanity gets bigger, more and more
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: stripped of its humanity. That'll be one of the last
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: great experiences that we can share. And I feel pretty
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: lucky that my job is built on that.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But when you're playing a 97 show and there's a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: festival and it's 5,000 people on a warm summer night,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: people are holding a beer in one hand and holding
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: their phone up recording in the other. What does Rhett
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Miller say to himself?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Thank God 5,000 people showed up tonight.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Hope they all buy some merch. Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't begrudge anybody anything. Like we are all,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: everybody is just trying to get through. And if, you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: if it makes you more comfortable as a young person
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: to like be filming and maybe even watching through the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: screen on your phone, like whatever it takes to get
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: you out of your house and into the real world,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: even if you need to have a, you know, an
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: electric sort of comfort blanket in your hand as you
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: do it. It's okay, man. We're all in this together.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: We're just all trying to freaking survive.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all just on a space rock, right? We're
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: all just floating around here. And maybe that shared music
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: has saved the world in the 60s in some ways
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and helped revolutionize things. Maybe it can save us and
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll just keep people going to things. Sports and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: music are what get people out of the house and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: away from their phones and away from their TVs, right?
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's the communal nature of these events, and it's
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: not replaced by anything on our digital devices.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: What else is on tap for you? What else do
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you need to promote? Where are the 97s other than
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: soon-to-be major motion picture documentary features?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: A new record is going to drop in April. I
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: think they haven't officially told me the date, but it
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: sounds like it'll be April. It's in the can. It's great.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: It's so good. And I think I know the album title,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: but I'm not allowed to say it until it's official.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: But it's going to be great. It's Old 97's 15th
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: studio album. We decided that we're counting our Christmas album
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: because it was all original songs. So it's like a
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: studio album that happens to be Christmas themed. So that
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: means that this is our 15th studio album as a band. Wow.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: That is, I mean, who'd have thunk, right? Yep. 33 years.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Back from those squalid days. Who would have thunk that
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you'd get to 15? Is that the hardest part? There's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the writing, there's the recording, there's the mixing, and then
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: is naming the record the hardest part?
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Sometimes, but in the case of this one, it was
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: one of the album titles, or one of the song
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: titles became the album title, and I knew it early on.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Of course, Ken had already pegged that song title at
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: our guitar player, who's ornery as hell. He's like, man,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: that sounds pretentious. So just be ready. I can't announce
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: the title, but you should know in advance that it
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: will be pretentious.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: It'll be pretentious and Ken will complain.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah. Of course.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: That's his default setting. It's default setting. And you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it's funny because I was also thinking as, as I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: heard from your, your, your manager and like, Hey, we
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: want to help promote these shows. I'm like, anytime I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: can talk to red, it's a treat. But I was
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: thinking about, I'm not in a band, but we have
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a radio show and it's three guys in a room
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: slugging it out day after day after day. And the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: dynamic is similar. You know, everybody's heard each other's stories
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and we've been, it's you're at times you can get
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: sick of each other, but you can't exist without each other.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: It's that weird, you know, push and pull.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: And I've seen even in the couple of decades that
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I've known you, I've seen you do different things and,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: and it's just, it's cool, man. It's great when you're
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: meant to do something. And you also love it. Like
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: you'll find a way to do it and you'll make
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: it work. And people will be glad you did it
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: because you're, you're, you're good at what you do, Drew.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm good enough that I've gotten to
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: keep doing it. So let's go, man.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. Let's have a time. Let's have a time.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night, Shank Hall, Friday, Saturday, spring green at the
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: bleepy barn, expletive deleted barn. We'll, you know, we'll send
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a link out and let people know. Rhett, thank you
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: for hanging out. Best of luck to your Cowboys and
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the Packers as they try to recover from their struggles.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: And we will see you on Wednesday night at Shank.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. See ya.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: All right. Thanks to Rhett Miller for joining us. Thanks
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to Billy and Armin for indulging my musical fixation.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: That was awesome. I enjoyed that. That's good stuff, man.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: He's such a good dude.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: You're going to enjoy the shows if you go Wednesday
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: night in Milwaukee, Shank Hall, or Friday, Saturday, Spring Green.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: That would be pretty sweet. Interesting.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: At the Blank Barn.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Interesting to hear him talk about how... You wouldn't know
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: how to start a music career now with today's day
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: and age. It's not so different than what we do
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: in some ways. Well, the parallels I said, you're in
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: a band. We're in a band. We don't play music,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: but you got three guys that are together all the time.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You've heard each other's stories, and the longer you do it,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it's like you have a rhythm, and it's.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: But Old 97 has been together for 33 years, so
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: great rock band if you ever get a chance to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: go see them. especially on a warm night with a
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: cold brew in your hand. Life doesn't get much better.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: That's going to be hard to beat, Drew. They bring
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it hard for sure. Boys, as we move forward, obviously
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Brewers Padres dominating. It's Bear Week.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Thank goodness.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Finally Bear Week. This is going to be a measuring
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: game for the Packers. They might have new offensive linemen.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: They're not going to face Caleb Williams. The Bears have
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: been rolling pretty good. A lot of people are getting in.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: We're going to get into the weeds of the whole
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: rivalry and the Ben Johnson's approach to Matt LaFleur's. You know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: if the Packers were kind of riding high, if the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Packers were coming off a division title, people would say, oh, yeah,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: why punch down?
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Why, you know?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: But now fans, you want what you don't have. You
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: want success. I like that allure. And, you know, people
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: are pissed that LeFleur is not showing more fire and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: not answering Ben Johnson's, you know, Ben Johnson's trying to
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: bait him into debates. Begs for attention.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. We'll dive into that.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Please, for interest. And then, as we continue to bask
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: in the glow of the church... hit and the string
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: of brewers at bats in the ninth inning, and folks
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: are wondering, was Mason Miller tipping his pitches? We've seen
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: this with Miz on the rare occasions that he gets
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: roughed up. It's a natural instinct now. It is part
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of the game, but with the pitch comp thing, the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: catcher's not putting down one finger for a fastball, two
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: fingers for a curve, three for a... That's not happening anymore.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: But there are tells that teams can discern, and if
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you get one, it's cool. But I guess the Cliffs
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: notes on that, my stance is it's still 104. If
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you know it's coming, good luck. Yeah, good luck. You
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: still got to hit it. You still got to lay off.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: You still got to tell yourself as that, what is it,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: 94-mile-an-hour slider is coming at you and having this disgusting break.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: You also got to tell yourself to not swing because
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: it is going to drop below the zone.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about Churio taking the slider on one-two, right?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: If that pitch is a strike, he's out, and the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: game's over, and.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: The Brewers lose.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he gets clowned for striking out, taking.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Great take, but it wasn't a strike either.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: You just have to trust the spin. Not only do
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: you have to recognize the pitch and take it. Where
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: does it say that you've got to chase that pitch, right?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: And I was telling Armand off the air, it's like
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: a 50-50 proposition. If you're geared up for the fastball
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and it's a slider, just tip your cap. You're not
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: hitting it. That's what makes him so tough. At the
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: same time, if you're hunting for the slider and he
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: comes 104, you're not hitting that either.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Nope, not touching it. So goodbye.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: That's what hitting is, is eliminating pitches like, Okay, it's 1-0.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: He's probably going to throw me a fastball. Also, don't
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: let somebody get to second base.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Last I checked, the Padres had, what, 20 different at-bats
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: with runners in scoring position?
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: They've had guys at second base. Yeah. Try to grab
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: a tell.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: We're going to dive into all of that as we
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: move forward. You're in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.