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Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, January 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, January six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Fields Auto Group and now
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Speaker 1: a guy who just declared for the draft or Stout
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Speaker 1: ale I P. A. Pilsner, J. P. Shad Rick, all
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Speaker 1: of the above Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: presented by the Fields Auto Group JP Shadrick. Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 1: coming up. We have a busy, busy, busy show. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot going on around Jaguars landed this week. Will
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Speaker 1: here from Bucky coming up in a moment shot con
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Speaker 1: setting the course for the week's ahead. We'll take a
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Speaker 1: look at some of the comments from the Jaguars owner
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Speaker 1: earlier this week. General manager candidates, that list continues to build,
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Speaker 1: as does the head coaching candidate list as well. Franchise
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Speaker 1: quarterback mentioned by Mr Khan a handful of times in
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Speaker 1: his comments Monday, and one of those potential draftees has
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Speaker 1: declared for the NFL Draft. Will get into that, and yes,
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Speaker 1: social questions. We put out the bat signal earlier today
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Speaker 1: and we've got some submissions that we will get to.
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Speaker 1: John oser out today. He'll be back with us in
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Speaker 1: the near future and Bucky Brooks is with us today
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and a lot going on around the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars this week. Bucky gm search continues. The head coaching
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Speaker 1: list rows shot con spoke, the quarterbacks come out of Clemson,
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Speaker 1: here we go. We're off and running. We are often
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Speaker 1: running one. And the Jaguars can be excited about what
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Speaker 1: the future should bring about. And so it starts with
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Speaker 1: hiring a general manager and a head coach and then
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Speaker 1: beginning to attack the draft and free agency and all
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Speaker 1: those things. And so even though twenty this season was horrible,
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Speaker 1: I think their play any of reasons to be optimistic
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Speaker 1: by the future. And by the way Tony Basselli named
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame finalists, absolutely that that was terrific.
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Speaker 1: Teammate Tony Boselli is one of the final fifth team.
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Speaker 1: We'll see if he's able to get in. January nineteenth
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Speaker 1: is the date the selectors will meet, not the day
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Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. They'll do it virtually this year,
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Speaker 1: and normally that would be a headline the top story
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Speaker 1: of Basselli's a finalist. With all this happening, it's not
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Speaker 1: but congratulations to Tony. Certainly, our colleague here on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on Mondays and Thursdays, and of course Jaguars
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Speaker 1: radio analysts. Let's get to it. Let's start off Bucky
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Speaker 1: with the comments of shot Con this week. We'll break
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Speaker 1: down a few different points today from the Jaguars owner.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he relieved Doug Moronovous duties about nine
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Speaker 1: o'clock on Monday morning on Black Monday, and then ten
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Speaker 1: thirty or so met the media to discuss the football
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Speaker 1: matters moving ahead. First off, he talked about what he's
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Speaker 1: looking for in head coach and GM candidates, and you'll
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Speaker 1: see it on your screen here the full uh comment
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Speaker 1: and the one that the part of this Bucky that
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Speaker 1: I take out the most is a proven leader who
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Speaker 1: understands not only the basics football blocking and tackling, but
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Speaker 1: more importantly modern football, the new football, but handling the
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Speaker 1: twenty one century athlete. At the same time, we know
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Speaker 1: what happened around here the last couple of years where
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Speaker 1: some of the twenty first century athletes that were here
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Speaker 1: didn't want to be here anymore. That whole mindset has
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Speaker 1: to change, and Mr Conn, I think, really kind of
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Speaker 1: set the tone for what he's looking for, and that's
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Speaker 1: a big piece of it relating to this type of
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Speaker 1: player in in this world frame right now. Yeah, Look,
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Speaker 1: the head coaching job is so much more than just
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Speaker 1: calling plays and being a guy who has an expertise
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Speaker 1: when it comes to xs and ohs. It is a
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Speaker 1: communication deal. It's a job that you have to be
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Speaker 1: our relationships. You have to convince uh Phase three people
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Speaker 1: to get moving in the right direction. And so it's
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Speaker 1: really important that when you are looking and examining and
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Speaker 1: determining which head coaching candidate is the right one, is
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Speaker 1: that he is able to check off a bunch of boxes.
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Speaker 1: He's a leader, he's organized, He's able to really articulate
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Speaker 1: a clear plan for how this team is going to
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Speaker 1: play in the players that he wants on the team.
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Speaker 1: He's able to challenge players while also encouraging them and
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Speaker 1: getting them to believe into the culture of the program.
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Speaker 1: And then it's about his ability to solve problems that
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Speaker 1: come along each and every season because it's inevitable you
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Speaker 1: have to get through some things to be able to advance.
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Speaker 1: And so I believe Shotgun is better equipped to get
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Speaker 1: the head coach right this time because he's gone through it.
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Speaker 1: He's seen it. He's been able to observe it and
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Speaker 1: he understands the way that the football world has changed
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Speaker 1: as it relates to the athlete. This will be the
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Speaker 1: fourth head coach under his ownership coming up that's since twelve.
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Speaker 1: That is quite a bit of change, of course, like
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Speaker 1: Malarkey had one year twelve, Gus Bradley had a handful
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Speaker 1: of years, Doug Maron just finished his fourth your plus
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Speaker 1: so plenty of changes there and in three different ways
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Speaker 1: to really go about it. Three different personalities of head
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Speaker 1: coaches in those three Bucky, Yeah, three different personalities and
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Speaker 1: you know, um, they come in different sizes and shapes
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Speaker 1: and leadership styles and those things. But I I feel
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Speaker 1: like what Shaw wants to do is do a reset
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Speaker 1: on the entire franchise and make sure that we have
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Speaker 1: a very positive, um and encouraging franchise, one that really
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Speaker 1: represents the franchise in the city well. And then I
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Speaker 1: think when it comes to the head coach, I think
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Speaker 1: he wants to kind of have that buzzer, that energy
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Speaker 1: like we see it sometimes when we watch other teams,
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Speaker 1: we see the energy that they have, and I think
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Speaker 1: the main thing is what is our culture? Who are
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Speaker 1: we what are the Jaguars about? And is that I
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Speaker 1: guess what we are about doesn't reflect the city. And
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Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's a bid job.
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Speaker 1: It's a job that I think the coach needs to
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Speaker 1: be mature. He needs to have a proven plan, a
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Speaker 1: plan that maybe we've already seen play out once before,
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Speaker 1: so we don't have to kind of go through some
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Speaker 1: of these growing pains that we've seen others end it
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Speaker 1: where they're trying to build up their franchises. It's very
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Speaker 1: rare when you have a true blank slate as an
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Speaker 1: NFL organization, and that's exactly what this is for shot
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Speaker 1: Con new GM new head coach, number one overall pick.
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Speaker 1: There's not a franchise quarterback in place, and you can
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Speaker 1: really it is as blank of a slate as you
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Speaker 1: can find in the National Football League. That doesn't really
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Speaker 1: happen too often. No, it doesn't happen. But here's what
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Speaker 1: we'll see as we look at the playoffs, because I
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Speaker 1: think there's a lot to be gleamed from the teams
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Speaker 1: that are in the postseason. We obviously want to be
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Speaker 1: in the postseason. We want to be a team that
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Speaker 1: is consistently in the tournament. And so if you look
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Speaker 1: at the teams that are there, it's not a coincidence
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Speaker 1: that you see a level coaches with a level quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: And so Sean has an opportunity to get uh five
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Speaker 1: star coach and with a five star quarterback and build
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Speaker 1: a team around those two people. And so this is
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Speaker 1: a great opportunity for the Jaguars to really bounce back,
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Speaker 1: kind of reinvent themselves and become a team that is
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Speaker 1: parentally in the postseason and talked about as one of
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Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. J P. Shadwick, Bucky
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Speaker 1: Brooks Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group
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Speaker 1: and now another comment from Jaguars owner's shot com about
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Speaker 1: the time frame of these hires and the flow charts,
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Speaker 1: and this is quite interesting. It's what has been happening
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Speaker 1: the last year or so around here where the GM
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Speaker 1: and the head coach would report to shot con equally
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Speaker 1: and separately. And you see on your screen there some
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Speaker 1: of the reasoning behind that from the Jaguars owner. You
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Speaker 1: have the transparency and the needs and concerns of both
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Speaker 1: parties without getting filtered or a chain of command. And
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Speaker 1: basically he said a little later when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the decision maker and of the hiring process and all that. Well,
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Speaker 1: you're looking at him and shot Gun was the only
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Speaker 1: one on the screen. So, um, what do you think
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Speaker 1: of this set up in the flow chart of things here?
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Speaker 1: How many other organizations do it like this? Well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think you want to do it like that. When
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Speaker 1: you're the owner, everything needs to run past you, particularly
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Speaker 1: the big decisions. And so um, I think what Shod
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Speaker 1: is doing is he's making sure that he is very,
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Speaker 1: very involved in the product and what the product looks
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Speaker 1: like going forward. And so we talked about culture and
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Speaker 1: we're here. Culture talked about a number of times as
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Speaker 1: we continue to go through this process with coaches and
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Speaker 1: general managers. But what Shod wants to do is he
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Speaker 1: wants to impress upon the general manager and the head
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Speaker 1: coach what the expectations are when it comes to who
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are and what they represent. Now, as a
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Speaker 1: general manager and a coach, you have the freedom to
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Speaker 1: kind of do that within your own style, but there's
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Speaker 1: a certain few there are few traits that this team
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Speaker 1: must exhibit. When I watched him play out, and he
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Speaker 1: wants to be um intimately involved in that and he
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Speaker 1: should as the owner of a bill you know, the
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Speaker 1: team now, Bucky. A lot of folks when Mr Khan
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Speaker 1: was talking on Monday reacted when he said, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm involved. I want to be. There was a
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Speaker 1: commentary earlier in his comments about his involvement in the
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Speaker 1: process and the football process, and a lot of people
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Speaker 1: took that as, oh, my goodness, he's Jerry Jones. He's
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Speaker 1: going to run everything. He's picking guys and all that.
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Speaker 1: And later in that video conference he uh explained a
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Speaker 1: little more in depth about his role here. It's more
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Speaker 1: of an overseer. If big moves are to happen. He
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Speaker 1: used to be involved and and have a final say
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Speaker 1: in things, and that might have, for lack of a
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Speaker 1: better term, not slipped past the goalie in years past,
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Speaker 1: maybe some of the smaller deals contracts. Well, the buck
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Speaker 1: is gonna stop with Shod Khan no matter what. Now,
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Speaker 1: it's not. This is not a Jerry Jones situation though,
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Speaker 1: where Mr Jones is all over everything. No, I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's that. But I would say, based on my
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Speaker 1: experiences in dealing with it in Carolina when I was
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Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. Mr Richardson was very involved. Um,
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Speaker 1: it had to run past Mr Richardson when it was
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Speaker 1: a big decision, whether it's a big free agent signing
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Speaker 1: or the top draft picks and who we're bringing in,
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Speaker 1: like you had to run it past. And because there's
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Speaker 1: certain things and standards that the owner wanted from the
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Speaker 1: players that really occupied those prominent roles as a marquee
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Speaker 1: free agent or the face of the franchise or whatever.
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Speaker 1: And so I think what Shot is doing is after
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Speaker 1: being in the league for a number of years, I
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Speaker 1: think he has a better understanding of the league of
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Speaker 1: running a team, and he wants to make sure that
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Speaker 1: he puts his fingerprints on this franchise, the way this
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Speaker 1: team plays and the way they've represent the community. Because
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Speaker 1: it's been a long time since the Jaguars had been
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Speaker 1: consistent winners. He wants to get back to that. Well,
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Speaker 1: the one of the quickest ways to become a consistent
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Speaker 1: winner is to find a franchise quarterback. And Mr Khan
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Speaker 1: numerous times in his comments made that point on Monday,
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Speaker 1: and you know that obviously shows that he knows exactly
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Speaker 1: the route that he wants to go early in this draft,
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Speaker 1: and you know it wasn't just a one time all.
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Speaker 1: We need a franchise quarterback, he explained for eight years,
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Speaker 1: this franchise has not had one the last eight years.
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Speaker 1: To see at the bottom of your screen there, it's
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Speaker 1: very very important. Earlier in his comments, um, you know
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Speaker 1: what's invaded the Jaguars has been a franchise quarterback and
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Speaker 1: they have the ability now to make that choice, and
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Speaker 1: it's going to define the franchise moving forward. If there
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Speaker 1: was any if there was any doubt what the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: are doing at number one, first off, you haven't been listening. Second,
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Speaker 1: that should be gone now after these comments. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think I think it's it's reagularly apparent. I talked about
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Speaker 1: it earlier. There's not a coincidence that the teams that
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Speaker 1: are in the playoffs half franchise quarterbacks. Every team, with
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Speaker 1: the exception of maybe the Chicago Bears, has someone that
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Speaker 1: you really feel great about being your franchise quarterback. And
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Speaker 1: so it is important that you get the right head coach,
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Speaker 1: you pay them. With the right quarterback, your chances of
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Speaker 1: entering the tournament each and every year they go up.
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Speaker 1: Now you have to build around them. You gotta put
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Speaker 1: the defense and the weapons around them on offense to
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Speaker 1: make it work. But it is a lot easier when
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Speaker 1: you know that you have uh an elite coach and
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Speaker 1: you surround them or pairing with an elite quarterback. And
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Speaker 1: I think in this draft there's someone that has at
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Speaker 1: the top of the draft that's certainly has the bubility
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Speaker 1: to be elite quarterback in this league for a long time.
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Speaker 1: That is a professional segue into our next thought about
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and one in particular that has declared for the
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft this morning, Trevor Lawrence out of Clemson University
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Speaker 1: is leaving. He's going to the NFL Draft. In a
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Speaker 1: really well crafted video this morning, by the way, on
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Speaker 1: social media, you see his numbers in his college career.
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Speaker 1: Sixty passer over ten thousand yards in three seasons. That's
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Speaker 1: pretty decent touchdown to interception ratio as well, ninety touchdown,
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Speaker 1: seventeen picks, and he scored eighteen touched hounds on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy runner up this year. He has been the
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Speaker 1: um pretty much consensus number one pick for the last
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Speaker 1: couple of years in NFL talking circles. Well, now we're
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Speaker 1: just a few months away. It seems bucky from that
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Speaker 1: becoming reality. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think this is a
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Speaker 1: perfect guy to usher in a new era of Jaguars football.
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Speaker 1: And we can talk about the talent because he is everything.
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Speaker 1: I mean. He is a five star playmaker. He has
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Speaker 1: a big time arm, he's athletic, he can make every
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Speaker 1: throw that you want to see, and he still can
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Speaker 1: play in a new school style. And then he is
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Speaker 1: the what I'll call the epitome of a leader. He
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Speaker 1: is a guy who rallies his teammates together. We saw
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Speaker 1: the initiative and the leadership ability that he displayed this
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Speaker 1: spring when it came to trying to get his team
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Speaker 1: back to playing and handling some of the things that
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Speaker 1: were going on around the country. He stepped up and
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Speaker 1: he did that. And so when I think about the
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Speaker 1: face of the franchise and what you want to entrust,
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Speaker 1: uh that to terms of your franchise, quarterback Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: embodies all of those things. Very mature. Football is important.
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Speaker 1: He loves it and he loves the game as much
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Speaker 1: as the head coach and everybody around him loves the game.
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Speaker 1: And so I mean, you talk about hitching your wagon
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Speaker 1: to someone who really can bring the Jaguars back to prominence.
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is is the right quarterback to go after
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Speaker 1: but Bucky. But the All State Sugar Bowl the other
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Speaker 1: night this past Friday, you know, that's the argument. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people said all Fields might have gotten closer
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Speaker 1: to him, and you had said this a few weeks back.
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Speaker 1: The Fields was closer to Lawrence and a lot of
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Speaker 1: people were giving him credits for. And we saw in
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Speaker 1: that game in New Orleans on Friday night what Justin
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Speaker 1: Fields can do. Not only the numbers, which are fantastic
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Speaker 1: obviously look at him right here, six touchdown passes, my goodness,
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Speaker 1: but the way they came, the way he played that game,
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Speaker 1: after taking the shot in the ribs and fighting through
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Speaker 1: it getting back. I'm sure he was shot up with something.
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Speaker 1: But either way, he's back in the game, fighting through
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Speaker 1: for his team. Um, did he did he close the gap?
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Speaker 1: For you? Is the jury out or is it just
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Speaker 1: too far gone that Trevor is the guy? No? No,
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Speaker 1: I think these guys have always been really really close, right,
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Speaker 1: And I think that if you go back and track
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Speaker 1: their history from the time they were in high school
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Speaker 1: all the way up, they've always been number one and
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Speaker 1: number two, and it's always been. It's been flip flops.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes Fields has been one, sometimes Lawrence has been one.
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Speaker 1: I think the differences in this situation in Jacksonville, Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence has played three years. When you look at the
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Speaker 1: amount of throws, Trevor Lawrences maybe even dred throws compared
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Speaker 1: to Justin Fields five fifty five eight, and so he said,
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Speaker 1: double the amount of starts, doubled amount of reps when
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Speaker 1: it comes to throwing the ball in game action. And
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Speaker 1: I just think in Jacksonville, Trevor works. I just think
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Speaker 1: the maturity and exactly what Shot Hunt had outlined in
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Speaker 1: terms of a franchise quarterback. There are no questions or
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Speaker 1: reservations about Trevor Lawrence. And I'm not saying that there
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Speaker 1: are questions about Justin Fields. I just believe right now,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is a brand name, something that you can
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Speaker 1: kind of trust because we've seen him perform on the
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Speaker 1: big stage. He's done it for a long time. He
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Speaker 1: exhibits all the qualities that you want. I don't believe
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Speaker 1: you want to overthink this. I think Trevor Lawrence is
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Speaker 1: to pick for the Jags. The question is does Justin
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Speaker 1: Fields go right after him to the Jets? It too,
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Speaker 1: because I think he is certainly worthy of being the
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Speaker 1: next guy off the board. All Right, the conversation is
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Speaker 1: off and running, and it is only going to build
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Speaker 1: up as we move along. I'm sure when we come back, though,
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Speaker 1: we'll start the conversation about the GM candidates that have
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Speaker 1: been reported. We've talked about this on this show in
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Speaker 1: the past. Some of those guys that have been listed
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Speaker 1: will add to that list a little later. Head coaching talking,
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Speaker 1: including a certain former Ohio State in Florida head coach
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Speaker 1: that has been rumored around the Jaguars as well. We'll
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Speaker 1: you're along with us today. J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
19:04
Speaker 1: John Louis, you're out today, Bucky. We're streaming all over
19:07
Speaker 1: the place. You were on um Jags Twitter, were on
19:11
Speaker 1: Jack's Facebook, We're on Jaguar's YouTube, and I was told
19:16
Speaker 1: during the break we had a comment I think on
19:18
Speaker 1: the YouTube page that the Jags should draft Jack Wilson
19:21
Speaker 1: number one. I mean, Zack Wilson is a good player,
19:26
Speaker 1: but I would put Zack Wilson in the same category
19:28
Speaker 1: as Trevor Lawrence. And I think this is a unique
19:30
Speaker 1: year where we have a bunch of really good quarterbacks
19:33
Speaker 1: that should be able to pop right away. But Trevor
19:35
Speaker 1: Lawrence is different um compared to Zack Wilson. Trevor Lawrence
19:39
Speaker 1: has been forced to play on a big stage his
19:41
Speaker 1: entire time, his entire career, he has been up on
19:44
Speaker 1: the the scope and he has thrived under that intense scrutiny.
19:47
Speaker 1: I think for Zack Wilson, Zack Wilson kind of flew
19:50
Speaker 1: under the radar and kind of this year was the
19:52
Speaker 1: year that he emerged. Really good player, terrific arm talent,
19:57
Speaker 1: has the athleticism that you like. But I think it's
19:59
Speaker 1: a little bit of a differ price between Trevor Lawrence
20:01
Speaker 1: and Zack Wilson. That's why I would take Trevor Larns.
20:03
Speaker 1: They'd have to check his learners permit at the combine
20:05
Speaker 1: to make sure he's eligible too. He's just look really
20:10
Speaker 1: young guy. Yeah he looks young. He has a boy's face,
20:14
Speaker 1: but he's a talented prospect. I think we could see
20:17
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks go bang Bay bang at the top of
20:19
Speaker 1: the draft, but the first one to go to be
20:21
Speaker 1: number sixteen for Clempson Trevor Lawrence, because I think he
20:24
Speaker 1: is a difference maker. He is someone that has the
20:26
Speaker 1: ability to reverse the fortunes of the franchise. Not completing
20:29
Speaker 1: by himself, but with his talent in his presence, he
20:32
Speaker 1: shortly can help this franchise go a long ways towards
20:34
Speaker 1: back to respectability and beyond. All Right, Bucky, let's get
20:37
Speaker 1: into the general manager candidate list. There have not been
20:41
Speaker 1: a lot of changes since we last went through the list.
20:45
Speaker 1: We've discussed Bulky, Jerry Reese, Lewis Riddick, and Rick Smith.
20:51
Speaker 1: But the two additions since then at least bea reports
20:54
Speaker 1: A Ray Farmer, former Brown's GM, and Terry Fontino from
20:58
Speaker 1: the New Orleans. So let's start with Farmer. What's his story? Okay,
21:03
Speaker 1: so Farmer Ray and I go all the way back
21:06
Speaker 1: to UH College. He played a duke, spent three or
21:09
Speaker 1: four years in the National Football League, has really worked
21:12
Speaker 1: his way up the ladder. Had an opportunity to be
21:14
Speaker 1: the general manager for the Browns. It was brief, but
21:17
Speaker 1: what I will say is he is an outstanding football
21:19
Speaker 1: mind and he also gets what I call the New
21:22
Speaker 1: Age way of scouting, so a mix of analytics and
21:25
Speaker 1: being able to bring all of that stuff in when
21:27
Speaker 1: it comes to that while retaining the ability for the
21:31
Speaker 1: desire to want to play old school physical football, and
21:34
Speaker 1: so second time around, giving a full opportunity to do it.
21:38
Speaker 1: I certainly think that he can succeed. And I think
21:40
Speaker 1: he understands what it takes to build a successful franchise
21:45
Speaker 1: because he's been around the right influencers who should enable
21:49
Speaker 1: him to get the form that that that football vision
21:53
Speaker 1: for how you want this franchise to play out and
21:55
Speaker 1: be successful in the a f C South. I've seen
21:57
Speaker 1: a lot of people though, pointing to his draft record
22:01
Speaker 1: in Cleveland and some of the players that he selected
22:04
Speaker 1: while he was in charge there, And you know, what
22:07
Speaker 1: do you make of all that? Is that overblown someone? No?
22:11
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's a part of your record.
22:13
Speaker 1: I think that's a part of your history. Sometimes, um,
22:16
Speaker 1: those things don't go. And I think it's important to
22:18
Speaker 1: kind of frame the context of the draft, like, we're
22:20
Speaker 1: lucky if we hit on fifth percent of the guys
22:23
Speaker 1: that we take in the draft, particularly in the first round,
22:25
Speaker 1: and then it goes down by about ten percent with
22:28
Speaker 1: each subsequent round. And so with Ray, like, yeah, you
22:31
Speaker 1: have to look at some of these guys and look
22:32
Speaker 1: at some of those that were drafted, and then also
22:35
Speaker 1: understand how much did ownership play, particularly in those first
22:40
Speaker 1: first round, those first picks. Did Ray actually get a
22:42
Speaker 1: chance to pull the trigger or was that an ownership decision?
22:46
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, it's on his record. It has to
22:48
Speaker 1: be discussed. But I think sometimes guys can learn a
22:51
Speaker 1: lot from the mistakes that make when it comes to
22:53
Speaker 1: selecting players. Wasn't that the story that the Brown's owner
22:56
Speaker 1: was told on the way in that day, Hey, you
22:58
Speaker 1: need to draft Johnny Man's by somebody in the street, right, Yes, yeah,
23:03
Speaker 1: that that that has something to do with like you
23:05
Speaker 1: talk about it, and it didn't go well, and I
23:07
Speaker 1: think he was drafted over the objections of some others
23:11
Speaker 1: that were in the building, the coach, the general manager,
23:14
Speaker 1: scouting staff. And sometimes you know, if ownership wants something
23:17
Speaker 1: to happen, then you have to go with that and
23:19
Speaker 1: try and support the player the best that you can. Yeah,
23:22
Speaker 1: but Ray, it has to be talked about. But there
23:24
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys who will come in an
23:26
Speaker 1: interview who have had some issues and some failures when
23:29
Speaker 1: it comes to free agent signings and draft picks. And well,
23:31
Speaker 1: if you have, you haven't been an executive everybody has failure.
23:35
Speaker 1: Everybody There's no perfect way to do it. I think
23:38
Speaker 1: the bigger thing is can the candidate clearly articulate the
23:42
Speaker 1: vision for the team and what he wants to build.
23:45
Speaker 1: Can he give you a plan for how to build
23:47
Speaker 1: this team up. Is he someone who can work with
23:50
Speaker 1: a coach too, kind of create a cooperation that enables
23:55
Speaker 1: two people to kind of build this thing together and
23:57
Speaker 1: move forward. And so it is one of the things
24:00
Speaker 1: that sometimes you know so much more the second time
24:03
Speaker 1: around than the first time around. I think it would
24:05
Speaker 1: be better equipped to handle the responsibilities this time around,
24:08
Speaker 1: all right. And the other name, Terry Fontino, has been
24:10
Speaker 1: with the Saints for sixteen years and a number of
24:13
Speaker 1: different capacities, the most recently as director of Pro Scouting.
24:17
Speaker 1: So he's a Saint through and through. This will be
24:20
Speaker 1: his first shot at the big chair. Yeah, it will
24:23
Speaker 1: be his first shot at the big chair. But I
24:24
Speaker 1: would say if you looked at how the Saints had
24:26
Speaker 1: played the last ten or so years, particularly once Drew
24:29
Speaker 1: Brees came on, they've been a consistent team, a team
24:31
Speaker 1: that is always in the mix. And if you look
24:34
Speaker 1: at the most recent version of the Saints they've nailed
24:37
Speaker 1: it in the draft, and even though he was on
24:38
Speaker 1: the pro side, he has worked hand in hand with
24:41
Speaker 1: Jeff Arland, who was one of the best in the
24:42
Speaker 1: business when it comes to selecting players, and so I
24:45
Speaker 1: think he understands what it looks like, what it should
24:47
Speaker 1: feel like in building a championship team, and then it's
24:50
Speaker 1: about surrounding himself with a football minds that enable him
24:54
Speaker 1: to take that plan to he creates and put it
24:56
Speaker 1: in the action. Okay, Bucky, the GM talk is done
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Speaker 1: But that is a pretty sizeable lists so far. We'll
25:09
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27:36
Speaker 1: There's a lot of noise around, of course, the Jaguars
27:38
Speaker 1: head coaching gig that opened on Monday, and Jaguar's owner
27:42
Speaker 1: Shot con I was asked about the Urban Meyer rumors
27:46
Speaker 1: on Monday and said, you know, I've known Urban for
27:49
Speaker 1: a long time. Around the big tent, Mr CON's a
27:52
Speaker 1: big supporter at Illinois, of course, and um, you know
27:56
Speaker 1: he said he had not talked to anyone about the
27:59
Speaker 1: job because there was not a job yet. Doug Moron
28:01
Speaker 1: was still the head coach. And as you see in
28:03
Speaker 1: your screen here, these are the reported names that have
28:06
Speaker 1: interviewed or are slated to interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
28:11
Speaker 1: Let's start with Urban. That's the biggest name, at least
28:14
Speaker 1: in the last few days around this Jaguars organization and
28:18
Speaker 1: the opening at head coach. And you know it's the
28:22
Speaker 1: flashiest of the names. Bucky I'll say that it would
28:26
Speaker 1: be a huge jump to go to the NFL. But
28:28
Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, he has built programs in
28:32
Speaker 1: a number of different places at so many different levels
28:35
Speaker 1: of college football and has done it time and time again.
28:40
Speaker 1: Can that translate as a program builder in the NFL? Yeah,
28:45
Speaker 1: I can't translate as a program builder because you've done
28:47
Speaker 1: it before. You understand what it's like to take teams
28:50
Speaker 1: that are down and kind of revitalized him. He did
28:53
Speaker 1: it at Bold and Green, he turned around Utah, he
28:55
Speaker 1: turned around Florida, and he took Ohio State to INAPT
28:58
Speaker 1: some title so he has a proven formula that works. Now,
29:01
Speaker 1: I would say this, the pro game is completely different
29:03
Speaker 1: than the college game. But players are players, and it's
29:06
Speaker 1: some people business. And can you enlighten, motivate and inspire
29:10
Speaker 1: those guys to to to get them to play for
29:13
Speaker 1: the team and to play at a higher level. He's
29:15
Speaker 1: proven to be able to do that. That said, there's
29:18
Speaker 1: some things that need to come along with urban for
29:20
Speaker 1: this to be able to work. He has to be
29:22
Speaker 1: able to identify and experience personnel man that can help
29:26
Speaker 1: him uh with the draft and free agency and identifying
29:29
Speaker 1: the right players to play the way that he wants
29:32
Speaker 1: to play. He has to build relationships with coaches to
29:36
Speaker 1: have the right coaches that understand the pro game in
29:40
Speaker 1: relations to because it different than college and so you
29:43
Speaker 1: have to make sure that he has those things. And
29:45
Speaker 1: then the final thing, and maybe the most important thing,
29:47
Speaker 1: is how long is he committed to the process. How
29:51
Speaker 1: long is he willing to endure maybe some of the
29:53
Speaker 1: rough patches that you have to endure to get to
29:55
Speaker 1: the other side. He has been one to kind of
29:57
Speaker 1: do it quickly then get out if I'm shot, Khan,
30:02
Speaker 1: I need assurances that he's going to be here for
30:04
Speaker 1: a while, because you don't want to be right back
30:06
Speaker 1: in this search to three years down the line because
30:10
Speaker 1: urban Meyer decides two or three an I'm I'm ready
30:13
Speaker 1: to move on to something else right now. That's um,
30:16
Speaker 1: that's what the interview processes for. And there are reports
30:19
Speaker 1: out there that maybe he'll report our interview later in
30:22
Speaker 1: the week. I didn't see the exact day though, but
30:25
Speaker 1: apparently that process is starting. We see numbers thrown around there,
30:28
Speaker 1: and then it was disputed by your guy. Rappaport was like, no,
30:33
Speaker 1: it's not that number, so who knows. Yeah, but but
30:35
Speaker 1: the number has to be hot because if if I'm
30:38
Speaker 1: Urban Mind, just looking at it, Matt Rule commanded maybe
30:41
Speaker 1: nine million dollars from the Carolina Panthers annually. Matt Rule
30:45
Speaker 1: doesn't have any rings or shiny things or any hardware
30:47
Speaker 1: in his office, and so if I'm Herbert Mayer, I
30:50
Speaker 1: can't go in for less than that. And then you
30:52
Speaker 1: factor in a year and inflation and then cost of
30:55
Speaker 1: living a right there, JP, we're at eleven and twelve
30:58
Speaker 1: million dollars. So that's how you end up getting to
31:00
Speaker 1: that number. It's not like he has many flashy things
31:03
Speaker 1: from college either rule, you know, I mean, it doesn't everything,
31:08
Speaker 1: so I can I can imagine that Urban's representatives would
31:11
Speaker 1: look at that and say, I mean, that's a nice
31:13
Speaker 1: starting point, but we have so much more on the
31:16
Speaker 1: resume that we command a little more. All right. A
31:18
Speaker 1: few other of these other names that have popped up
31:20
Speaker 1: in the last few days. Eric B. Enemy apparently reportedly
31:24
Speaker 1: interviewed today with not only the Jaguars, but the Jets,
31:27
Speaker 1: And I think he's on most every team's radar that
31:31
Speaker 1: has an opening this year. And the Enemy has been
31:34
Speaker 1: a hot name for the last couple of years, obviously
31:36
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs success on the offensive side of the football,
31:41
Speaker 1: and it seems like he's going to get a shot
31:45
Speaker 1: somewhere this year. Why should it be here for B Enemy? Well,
31:49
Speaker 1: I mean one, I think he's very, very intrigued by
31:52
Speaker 1: the job to When I think about Eric B. Enemy,
31:55
Speaker 1: he's a leader, He's a natural leader. He's a guy
31:57
Speaker 1: that really commands the room. He does a really good
31:59
Speaker 1: job up in terms of getting guys to play at
32:03
Speaker 1: at at a very high level. If you look at
32:05
Speaker 1: the track record of the guys that have been under
32:07
Speaker 1: his direction, they've all played really well, going all the
32:09
Speaker 1: way back to Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles and Kent City,
32:12
Speaker 1: the running backs that they've been able to throw in
32:14
Speaker 1: there and have success. And yes, he is the offensive coordinator,
32:17
Speaker 1: and we can talk about Andy Reid calling the plays,
32:20
Speaker 1: but every b enemy deals with the quarterback. We've seen
32:22
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes play at a high level, and so I
32:25
Speaker 1: think he is the right mix in terms of being
32:27
Speaker 1: able to challenge players but bring out that confidence and
32:30
Speaker 1: that excellence in them. And I think he also understands
32:33
Speaker 1: how to build the entire team, because yes, he says,
32:36
Speaker 1: going all the way back to college in Colorado on
32:38
Speaker 1: the Bill McCartney on the national title, so he understands
32:41
Speaker 1: what the championship team looks like. I send a couple
32:43
Speaker 1: other of these guys while we're here today with you, Bucky,
32:46
Speaker 1: And you know, we know Robert slow Well around here.
32:48
Speaker 1: He was on the defensive coaching staff here a few
32:52
Speaker 1: years now, the forty Honors defensive coordinator. And he was
32:55
Speaker 1: in the interview rounds last year, the interview for the
32:58
Speaker 1: Browns for sure, and probably a couple of other teams
33:01
Speaker 1: if I can't remember exactive they are. So he's back
33:04
Speaker 1: in that process again this year. It feels like he's
33:07
Speaker 1: gonna get a gig at least somewhere. Arthur Smith is
33:10
Speaker 1: on every single team that has an opening, He's getting
33:13
Speaker 1: an interview. I don't you know, maybe be enemy will
33:16
Speaker 1: be on every list, but on every single list is
33:20
Speaker 1: fairly rare too. Yeah, Arthur Smith is a good one.
33:23
Speaker 1: And and and here here's why. One. He's a tar heel,
33:26
Speaker 1: so I always have to support and endorse, but I
33:28
Speaker 1: would say this his story is really unique. His dad,
33:31
Speaker 1: for As Smith is obviously the founder and owner of FedEx,
33:34
Speaker 1: but Arthur has never utilized that to kind of make
33:37
Speaker 1: his mark in football. He has been a guy that
33:39
Speaker 1: has worked on both sides of the ball. He was
33:41
Speaker 1: Gregg Williams, the former defense coordinator for the Jaguars. He
33:45
Speaker 1: was his defensive quality control guy in Washington, followed them
33:48
Speaker 1: to Tennessee, moved over to offense, went from tight ends
33:51
Speaker 1: coach to offensive coordinator, and you look at how this
33:54
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans offense has rolled. Ryan Tannehill has played at
33:58
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level after struggling during his time in Miami.
34:01
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has become a monster that we talked about
34:04
Speaker 1: having a two thousand yard season, and being a head
34:06
Speaker 1: coach isn't necessarily about how they call played previously. But
34:10
Speaker 1: I think his resume would suggest that he has a
34:13
Speaker 1: level of adaptability and experience in terms of finding ways
34:18
Speaker 1: to put guys in positions to succeed, and a lot
34:21
Speaker 1: of what you're doing as a head coach on both
34:23
Speaker 1: sides of the ball is can I put my guys
34:25
Speaker 1: in the best position to succeed and lead them into
34:28
Speaker 1: this game and find a way to win it. And
34:29
Speaker 1: I think Arthur has shown that he can do it,
34:31
Speaker 1: particularly based on what he's done on offense. Mr Cohn
34:33
Speaker 1: said this week that there's not really a timetable. They'll
34:36
Speaker 1: just do the due diligence on all these interviews and
34:39
Speaker 1: whenever they happened, they'll happen pretty quick in uh together,
34:44
Speaker 1: so either the head coach first and the GM or
34:47
Speaker 1: the GM coach within a day or two, and so
34:49
Speaker 1: they're kind of tied together again. The only the only
34:52
Speaker 1: thing about that approach, especially when it comes to the
34:54
Speaker 1: head coach, the longer that you wait on the head coach,
34:57
Speaker 1: the hard it is to assemble an a levels staff.
35:00
Speaker 1: The first team to get in they have all the
35:04
Speaker 1: opportunity to get all the available coordinators and position coaches.
35:08
Speaker 1: As you continue to wait. I'm not saying you pick
35:10
Speaker 1: in the bottom of the barrel, but you're certainly not
35:12
Speaker 1: getting all of the available talent that is available in
35:16
Speaker 1: the coaching rates. So if you can find your guy earlier,
35:19
Speaker 1: it gives you an advantage to build the best staff
35:22
Speaker 1: that you can build. Then you're going if if you're
35:24
Speaker 1: later than you're going to plan B, Plan C. And
35:26
Speaker 1: of course you would never say that publicly, but that's
35:29
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35:34
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35:37
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Speaker 1: Fields Auto Group JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Oser out
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Speaker 1: this week. He'll be back with us very soon. And
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Speaker 1: we've gone through the GM candidate list. We've gone through
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Speaker 1: the head coach candidate list. Mr Khan's comments. Oh the
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Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks. There's been a lot going on this
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Speaker 1: week around the Jacksonville Jaguars in the division though on
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Speaker 1: the a f C south of Houston, Texans had a
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Speaker 1: GM and coach opening. Nick cassi Areo is the hier
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Speaker 1: at GM. He is out of the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 1: Jack Easterby was involved in the hiring process down there
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Speaker 1: in Houston, formerly of the New England Patriots. Apparently the
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Speaker 1: corn Ferry Search firm was involved, but I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: if Casirio was on that list or not. Bucky, how
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Speaker 1: about this higher in Houston? What do you make of well,
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Speaker 1: I mean I think it's more of the same in
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Speaker 1: Houston because Bill O'Brien came also out of that system.
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Speaker 1: There were other guys that have been in that system
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Speaker 1: that we're part of the Texans, and so I don't
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Speaker 1: know how much it changes. Then. I think it's a
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Speaker 1: little surprising that Nick wasn't on corn Ferries list, but
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Speaker 1: he somehow not only isn't with anybody isn't with the job.
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Speaker 1: And so it's it's one of those things. And so
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Speaker 1: now with the Texas, who is the coach? Is he
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Speaker 1: going to bring in someone who also has ties to
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Speaker 1: the Patriots? That would be Josh McDaniels or Brian day
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Speaker 1: ball Um and and and so now I just wonder
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Speaker 1: how much different is this program than it was under
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. Normally, when teams change and change the football's
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Speaker 1: are or the head coach, they look to go a
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Speaker 1: different direction. But the Houston Texans are kind of doing
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Speaker 1: the same thing. And we'll see if it works out
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Speaker 1: better for them. We'll see. It's a big hill to
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Speaker 1: climb down in Houston. No draft picks. Um they do
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Speaker 1: at the quarterback who led the league in passing yardage
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Speaker 1: this year, and that's about it. There's not a lot
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Speaker 1: that's about it in Houston these days. And let's get
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Speaker 1: the social media questions. We haven't done that on this
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Speaker 1: show right now. We we put out that, we put
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Speaker 1: them out this morning. Here's what we come up with
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Speaker 1: today from Adam Darry eleven. Is a better formula to
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Speaker 1: hire a head coach first and then decided a GM
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Speaker 1: or vice versa. I know, Bucky, we've talked about this
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Speaker 1: time and time again, but in general, what is your view?
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, these guys have to work as partners
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Speaker 1: and so you can go either way, like if you
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Speaker 1: hire the GM, g M has the coach. If you're
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Speaker 1: the head coach, like we've seen you hot to do
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Speaker 1: when they brought in Pete Carroll then he played a
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Speaker 1: role in hiring John Snyder, it can work. I think
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Speaker 1: the main thing there has to be a partnership and
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Speaker 1: these guys have to see football uh with the same vision,
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Speaker 1: because if you have guys who are thinking about the
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Speaker 1: game playing out differently, it just makes it hard and
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Speaker 1: you have to have agreement on players and style and
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Speaker 1: all those things. And so it's just really really important
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Speaker 1: that when you hire one and you bring on the
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Speaker 1: other that those guys are attached at the hip and
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Speaker 1: their in lockstep in terms of how to build a team.
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Speaker 1: Ego always gets involved. It feels like, you know, everybody
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Speaker 1: wants credit when things go well, and when it doesn't
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Speaker 1: go well, they don't want to take granted for it.
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Speaker 1: You know, that's how it works. And that the other
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Speaker 1: guy did this, not that not me, It wasn't me.
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Speaker 1: It was that kind of pointing fingers, but that that
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Speaker 1: cannot be the case. Well, no, I can't be the case.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's why shot I kind of put
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Speaker 1: out this statement when he said that he is ultimately
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Speaker 1: the decision maker that both roles report to him. And
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Speaker 1: because you're trying to eliminate some of that tattletale stuff
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Speaker 1: can go on in the office where you have the
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Speaker 1: gentleman or manager walking up to the ownership and talking
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Speaker 1: about where the coaches aren't doing this, and the coach
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Speaker 1: walking up to ownership and saying, the general managers not
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Speaker 1: give me any players. I can't do what I want
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Speaker 1: to do because I don't have the personnel you want
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Speaker 1: to eliminate that these guys really have to be aligned
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Speaker 1: and they have to be on the same page. When
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Speaker 1: it comes to build in the team, acquiring the players
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Speaker 1: that are necessary to make this vision come to life.
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Speaker 1: I guess what if they lose, then they'll all get
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Speaker 1: blacked anyway. So that's how that's how it or that
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Speaker 1: works in the NFL. Unfortunately, let's go to our next
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Speaker 1: question from at b k L then the offer. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure how to say that, but take your guest,
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Speaker 1: Bucky Um, should they let Cam Robinson go? M left
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Speaker 1: tack and I don't know if it's necessarily a lack
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Speaker 1: of white answer. I think you have to hold a
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Speaker 1: line in terms of what you're willing to pay Cam
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Speaker 1: Robinson before you you let him go. We talked about
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Speaker 1: the two picks that we're have in the first round
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Speaker 1: where that can be the first one obviously is number one.
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Speaker 1: It somewhere in the bottom teams where we can have
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Speaker 1: that second one where there plenty of offensive tackles in
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Speaker 1: this draft. And so if he gets a little pricy
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Speaker 1: to retain Cam Robson, you can let him go. Bring
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Speaker 1: somebody else in and plug and play, and let's go
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Speaker 1: about franchise tag him. What's the number on that this year?
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Speaker 1: I don't even know, man, I don't know what that
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Speaker 1: number would be, but I think it would be kind
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Speaker 1: of pricing maybe. I think probably like twelve or so.
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Speaker 1: Many haven't seen the new numbers in the cap sometimes
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Speaker 1: changes it. But if you want to keep him on
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Speaker 1: a one year deal and just kind of wait and see,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he has played at a level
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Speaker 1: where you are willing to dump a whole lot into him,
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Speaker 1: because I don't know if you know exactly what you're
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Speaker 1: getting the franchise tag maybe the way they go Our
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Speaker 1: next question, I don't even think it's a question. Actually,
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Speaker 1: there is a question to here from at Jacob ryan
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Speaker 1: Hart too. Can you guys do more shows in the
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Speaker 1: off season? So that's the question, and the answer is yes.
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Speaker 1: Also j P. Let's do what we gotta do to
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Speaker 1: get Bucky back for next season. Love and appreciate you
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Speaker 1: guys doing the show. Is a great sense of normalcy
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Speaker 1: this years. Yeah, I appreciate that. That's in the night
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Speaker 1: Where's Yeah, we're coming back. We canna do more stuff
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Speaker 1: with the Jags. We're gonna make it happy because look,
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Speaker 1: we went through the rough time JP. I I gotta
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Speaker 1: see the product goal at the end of the rainbow,
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Speaker 1: like right, like right now, right now, privately, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I'm not a lucky charm. Fifteen straight als on
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Speaker 1: my resume like it, it takes a lot for me
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Speaker 1: to get back over five. So yeah, I need to
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Speaker 1: be here for a while to make sure I get
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Speaker 1: my record right. You're in for the long haul. This
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Speaker 1: is not a one and done for Bucky Brooks. Fortunately
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Speaker 1: for us, We're gonna have him around all offseason doing
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Speaker 1: different things. Where the process of working that out right now?
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Speaker 1: One final question, um, and it has to do with
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Speaker 1: football from at Jordan's Stancil and it's about the head
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Speaker 1: coaching opening and it's a name that we didn't see
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Speaker 1: on the list. Thoughts on Joe Brady as potential head
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Speaker 1: coach of the Jaguars. This is speaking of a rising
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Speaker 1: stars in the profession. Joe Brady is moving up as
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Speaker 1: quickly as you can imagine, you know, JP not as
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Speaker 1: surprise that he's rising. I think it's probably a meteoric
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Speaker 1: rise for someone who went from me on a quality
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Speaker 1: control guy for the New Orleans Saints to being not
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Speaker 1: even really the coordinator l s U the passing game guy,
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Speaker 1: to being a one year coordinated with the Panthers too
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Speaker 1: now he's on the circuit interviewer for head jobs. Here's
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Speaker 1: what I would say about Joe Brady. He's young, he's dynamic,
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Speaker 1: he's creative. He does a really good job of making
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Speaker 1: the game easy. He did particularly for Joe burrow Um
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Speaker 1: and so he has some experience. But man, you have
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Speaker 1: to surround him with so many veteran coaches so that
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Speaker 1: he can kind of grow into that role of being
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Speaker 1: a head coach. The reason why he's attractive though, is
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Speaker 1: if you have the play caller as you're head coach,
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Speaker 1: you're not going to lose him when the offense succeeds.
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Speaker 1: It ensures a level of continuity when it comes down
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Speaker 1: to the head coach coordinator in the quarterback, which is
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Speaker 1: why you see some of these young guys, these young
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Speaker 1: quarterback gurus get jobs like we've seen him, Zach Taylor
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Speaker 1: Shaw McVeigh, because you don't lose him when they get
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Speaker 1: to the offense is successful, all about the offense got
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Speaker 1: to score points in the NFL. There you have it.
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Speaker 1: Social questions are in and that will do it for
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Speaker 1: our regular regularly scheduled Wednesday Jaguars Happy hours for the
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Speaker 1: season now in and Bucky We're in the process of
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Speaker 1: working on some offseason plans for shows and podcasts, and
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Speaker 1: we're glad to have you as a part of that
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Speaker 1: throughout the off season. And as you said just a
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Speaker 1: moment ago, the pot of Gold's coming suit stick around.
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fun few months. Absolutely, Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited. I'm glad to be back uh with
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Speaker 1: duvall in the Jaguars and all that stuff. And I'm
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Speaker 1: looking forward to the off season because, man, all eyes
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Speaker 1: are will be on the Jaguars, because we have an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to rein in the franchise, bring in some good
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Speaker 1: players and talk about it all over again. We'll do
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Speaker 1: it again soon. Bucky, appreciate you all season long. Man
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Speaker 1: all right, Man, be good. Bucky Brooks out of here.
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