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Front Yard People | a conversation with author Kristin Schell · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: Hi friends, welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: I hope that you are enjoying our new intro music as much as I am.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: It is the beautiful song Heavenly Things from the album Down Here and Up Above.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: It was written by Carla Adolph and Ben Pasley, who are the group Inner the Worship Circle.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to be sure and find them and check out more of their music at inner the worshipcircle.com.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Easy to find.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: So today Ashley and I are sharing with you our conversation that we had with our new friend Kristen Schell.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: She is such a delight, a true Texan, and she has started what has really become a movement all around the United States called the Front Yard People.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: How fun is that?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: She wrote the book, The Turquoise Table: Finding Community and Connection in Your Own Front Yard.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: And this is something that, well, when I got the book, I thought it was just gorgeous.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: And it was truly, when we talk about it in the podcast, I told her it was a feast for the eyes, and that it was.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: And it was her journey and her story of how an accidental placing of a table sparked an idea in her heart that has brought her more than she could ever imagine.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: For her, a revival of community in her neighborhood that really has begun in her front yard.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: She really embodies the statement gather small and love deep.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: And she's done this with just a few friends meeting around the table with their own cups of coffee.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: So it didn't require much for her, but just ushered in a new season of hospitality that didn't require days of planning and tons of stress.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: And for it to take away from her life, it's really added to it.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: So whether you're an introvert or an extrovert, and whether you have the room to put your own turquoise table in the front yard, I think you'll really be blessed by this conversation.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: I know for me, front yard table was not a possibility, but after reading the book, I immediately went to Lowe's and got my own turquoise chairs.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: I happen to love the color, and um put some flowers out front with the chairs, and sure enough, right away it worked and has continued to do so over the last six weeks and that I've had these chairs.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's been a great way to sit and um hear neighbors' stories, take time to catch up and hear what's going on their lives.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: It feels kind of just creates this safe place where they can sit and share what is going on in their life.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: And for you, it doesn't matter if your house is a mess or not because you're sitting outside with your neighbors just catching up in conversation.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I hope that you will enjoy this conversation and will be inspired to start your own turquoise table connection.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and by the way, what's really cool is that I gave the book to one of my newer friends in the neighborhood, and she was as equally inspired and bought several of those chairs and they're out front.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I've noticed I walk the neighborhood almost every day, and I've noticed lots of different chairs popping up.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: Not all turquoise, but chairs suddenly popping up in quaint little spots in people's front yard.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm hoping that maybe we've kind of begun a movement here.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: So you can even go on uh Kristen's website and register your table, which I need to go ahead and register mine and see what else might be close by and see if any other neighbors have done the same.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: So just hope you enjoy this conversation with Kristen Schell, author of the turquoise table: finding community and connection in your own front yard.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: The Unseen Journey is an online community that is gathering together to talk and read through the book Unseen: The Gift of Being Hidden in a World That Loves to Be Noticed, written by Sarah Hagerty.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: The Unseen Journey will be an encouraging place to share meaningful discussion and thoughts as we learn more about becoming a friend of God.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: So whether you have time to cozy up with a warm drink and a favorite blanket while you read through the material and share your thoughts, or if you jump in during your lunch break and answer some of the questions and scriptures that are going to be shared throughout the week.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Or maybe you just can pop in while the kids are napping.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: We would love you to join us there.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: You can download the free book study that accompanies the book and we'll encourage you along your personal discovery week by week, chapter by chapter.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: We'll hope you join us and we'll see you there.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, Kristen, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy morning and day to talk to us.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I am really excited because um I read your book.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: Jana sent me a copy of your book.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: And first of all, when I got in the mail, I was like, Squeal, this is so pretty.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: What did you do when you first got your book cover and all of that in your hands?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I cried, of course.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it was just surreal, absolutely surreal.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: I bet.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: And did you get to be part of the design team of all of that?
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: Or what did that what was that like?
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, I and and first of all, I mean, I was learning, you know, literally as I was going, because this is my first book.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't like I had any experience or any preconceived ideas of how it was gonna go.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so then we had a brainstorming session, and I had given them images, and they had certainly looked at my website to sort of see my style and things that I liked.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: But no, this was all, you know, the brain power and brilliance of of the publishing team.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I could not be more pleased.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: It really, yeah.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: So well, they they really captured it beautifully.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I love turquoise.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, it wasn't hard to wow me, but um, at the same time, I just it was a visual feast.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like I got it and was like, I cannot wait.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like it just felt like a vacation in a book where I could go and escape.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I really did.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: So that's so awesome.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's a fun quote.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna use that one.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'll put you on that.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: I actually wrote it down.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I don't always, but for a lot of books, whether I'm doing a podcast on it or not, I I like to write notes, you know, because you know, I try not to write notes in my book except for my Bible.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: But um anyway, so I I took like two pages of notes, but that was like the first thing I wrote down.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was like visual beast for that.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yeah, you can quote me on that for sure because it's it's true.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's true to the book for sure.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I've loved it.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, okay, besides, I mean, we kind of dove into the publishing part of it and you know, the cover, but you know, I love that you I mean, you had this like brilliant idea and you share a little bit of what that was like in the book about putting a turquoise table in your front yard.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: But uh you did this in like a huge step of faith, but did you even consider that maybe thousands of people would follow suit with this idea?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely not.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and it really, yes, it was an idea, and now you know, people say, Oh, that was such a great idea, but really it was an answer to prayer.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so it wasn't, I mean, of course, you know, I I said yes to the impulse of putting the table out there, but um, it came after a long sort of struggle in my faith and and trying to figure out and really, you know, struggling with and questioning, you know, Lord, what is it that you want me to be doing?
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: And and how can I live out, you know, hospitality?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: And this is also hard, and I'm busy and and I can't see it.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: And so the turquoise table became um God's response to all of those struggles um that I was having.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I I love it.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: I love it because, you know, he obviously is, you know, his creativity shines in so many ways.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I also never would have expected that he would have answered, you know, one mama's prayers in Austin, Texas with a picnic table.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love it.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: Now tell us a little bit.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: I want my listeners to get kind of inside scoop because we've talked about this bright turquoise picnic table.
• 8:46
  unknown: Right.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: But who things to put in their front yard and how, I mean, did you buy the table with that intention or what's kind of the story behind it?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: So the story behind it is is really I knew that my calling was hospitality and I and I was, you know, I'm the mother of four children and a wife, and you know, just I spend more time in my minivan than I do at any table, you know, including the dinner table.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_02: And so that was really frustrating me.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's when I began to say, okay, Lord, if you want, if you believe we are supposed to know our neighbors, and if you, you know, tell us that we are supposed to live out um hospitality and and and live in community with one another, you're gonna have to show me how because I'm failing it every every kind of way that I'm trying.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: And so not long after those prayers were offered up, I was having a party with a friend of mine, and we needed um some extra seating.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: And so I ordered a plain old ordinary picnic table from Lowe's.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, you know, it under$100, delivered the next day, as simple as it gets.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: And when the delivery guys brought the table to our house, they set it in our front yard, almost where it is now.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: And they they came to the door because it's heavy, and I guess they wanted to know where I wanted it exactly before they continued to carry it around.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: And when I went outside, they you know, they said, Where would you like us to put this table?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I saw it there.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: I saw it right next to the curb, underneath the the the a tree.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought, this is it.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna leave this picnic table right here and try to do life in a more visible way.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I didn't overthink it.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um I it was you know, we moved it to the back for the party, but as soon as that party was over, we did.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: We got it right back out front and began doing life out there.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now, when you talk about doing life out there, I'm and and I know some of this from the book, but like literally what what was it that um were you purposely thought, okay, this is something that I'm gonna start doing that's gonna start shifting what we did inside or in the backyard to doing in the front, besides the obvious like maybe eating on the front on the picnic table.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and and honestly, there was no like big plan.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like I didn't have five steps I was gonna follow.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: I just I just knew in my heart, um you know, that it was really just a hypothesis, a big old guess.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: What if?
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: What if instead of recreating new things?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: What if we took things that we were already doing, eating, you know, doing homework, you know, just whatever our activities were, and we took them outside for just a little while and did them in a more visible, you know, present um way.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so I did.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: The very first day I sat outside at the table and it was it was a little awkward, I have to admit, but there's a bright turquoise picnic table sitting in my front yard.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I so I took a whole bunch of things with me.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: I took, you know, my computer and notebooks and you know, stationery to write a thing to do.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly, to look busy, like I I've got this, you know, I've along at this table, like I totally know.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: This is so normal.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: You owned the table.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: Right, you know, like everybody does this, right?
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so but I sat there and literally, you know, within five minutes, um, a neighbor who I had never met before walked by and she we immediately started talking.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: And 30 minutes later, you know, Susan, who I had never met, even though she lives about three or four houses from me, um, we had exchanged numbers and and information.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, now four years later, I cannot imagine not knowing Susan.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so there was sort of an immediate affirmation um and encouragement, you know, just with that little scenario to try it again.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: And every time I tried it, you know, something else exciting, you know, or just affirming what happened.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's that was really the beginnings of the turquoise table.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love it.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's so awesome.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I have to say, um, I admittedly went out after I finished the book, I went to Lowe's and I found some turquoise chairs, uh, you know, those Aniron deck chairs that you can and um it was so fun because I knew we couldn't put a a picnic table in our yard, and um even though I would have loved to, but um I did that, and sure enough, that you know, I'm putting it out there and kind of arranging it and stuff.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I and we live on a cul-de-sac, so we have the benefit of knowing most of our neighbors now.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: And we've had some come and go, but immediately one, you know, walked out, you know, one of the retired neighbors, and he's like, What are you up to?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: And an hour later, you know, you know, and they were just looking for, you know, conversation and fellowship and wanted to know what's going on in our life.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I just thought, oh my goodness, I can't wait to tell Kristen about this because it totally works, you know, and not it's not that I have three kids, we're outside a lot, but rarely do I, with intention, just kind of sit and hang and wait, um, you know, for um, you know, for a moment to interact with someone else.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: But it was just, it was I mean it totally works like how you say it is.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: You kind of you go out there, you put you know it's like you're putting out the fleece, and God will certainly respond with people who are looking for communion and fellowship.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and I love your your chairs.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are doing that.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, one of the first questions I get is well, my front yard, you know, I can't, or I live in a condo, or I live in on a ranch, or whatever.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: And yes, you know, there's no rules.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, exactly.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: I always say the turquoise table isn't the hero of the story, the people are, and so the table is just an inviting, wonderful reminder um, you know, of a place to gather.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm glad you have those chairs out.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's awesome.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I noticed in your book, and I know Ashley wanted to ask about this because um my husband m might be a little bit more on the introvert side compared to me.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you talked about a similar experience, so I know Ashley wanted to ask you.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I'm an introvert by nature.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: I may be an extroverted introvert, but still this kind of thing of um inviting people into my world, doesn't matter if it's a kid's birthday party or whatever, just creates total anxiety.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I'm wondering what do you suggest for people who are more introverted?
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: And really, I think it also points to a difference between because I think I feel pressure to entertain people.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: And that's not the goal though.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: If the goal is to be, like you said, hospitable, then that's not necessarily the same thing.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: So talk to us a little bit about what that could look like.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, first of all, you know, it's it's important to note that I'm not an introvert.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm looking for introverts, right?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: That I'm married to one and we've been married 20 years.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_02: And so you know how this was, you know, I I didn't obviously think, oh, let's put a table outside.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe this will work for extroverts and introverts alike, right?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was not that I'm an extrovert, I'm not that forward thinking.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: So so but but but in our own relationship, you know, I was used I I love to have people around the table inside and that having Tony come home from work sometimes and have a group of women, you know, for Bible study or book club or you know, whatever we were gathering for isn't always a blessing.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I have two children that are also introverted, and so mom, you know, mommy entertaining all the time or having a full house.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, I I I need to be very respectful of what that does for their space and and their anxiety levels too.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: So God knew that, right?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and so as as my husband says now, I love it.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: She's outside all the time.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh God and he can run and escape inside a behind star.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that exactly, I mean, that is exactly one of the things.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: And what I have learned, and and actually I'd love to hear, you know, sort of, you know, your perspective on this as someone who has an introverted, um, you know, who is introverted is I have heard over and over again that being outside um is is you know, there's no it it's comforting in a way, you know, because I you know, it's not a big crowd.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um picnic tables by design are only intended to hold four people, maybe six, if you swish.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: So this, you know, yes, the concept, you know, can be very overwhelming of inviting people over and and will I get stuck and is there an entry time ending time and how long am I gonna have to stay and will I be exhausted and you know, afterwards, and how long am I gonna have to talk and all of those things, but you know, you're outside with your feet in the grass.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, it there's also there's there's a beauty of it because you know, if when you're done, you're done.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's like okay, we're leaving the picnic table.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like you're rude and saying, get out of my living room.
• 17:26
  unknown: Yeah.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so there's some I have heard from people over and over again, you know, that there is some comfort um in being outside, um, you know, at a at a table.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: The other thing too, Ashley, that you brought up is is the difference in an entertainment and hospitality.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, we are not the goal here is to, you know, sort of remind ourselves um that entertainment isn't the goal.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: People are the goal, and relationships and community is the goal.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: And if you do that through entertainment, which is you know, which is easy and wonderful for some people, that's great.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: But this is really about showing up and being present and opening our lives to others, which is hospitality.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, as scripture points out, really all you need on that is a cold cup of water.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's a very different mind shift, um, you know, in in the two.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like how you even um and I think you guys were doing it where you were putting out a uh like dog dish out by the table, you know, a cup of cool water, even for the dogs.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: But that how inviting I think about we have a ton of dog dog walkers on our street, and I thought the same thing.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: I should go ahead and just keep a dog dish out here, and you know, some of them walk their dogs in the yard anyway, so you might as well just go a little bit further and you know, maybe if we're out there or they'll at least feel like it's a safe place.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: So when we are out there, they feel free to strike up conversation and you know, that sort of thing.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you, yeah, the dog dish has been one of the greatest.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and again, that was just on a whim.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: I just noticed there were like you, there's lots of dog walkers in our neighborhood.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so I thought, well, I'll just put out a little, you know, dog dish.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: And let me tell you what, it is so people stop all the time.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: And if I'm there, you know, it's so much easier to say, oh my gosh, your dog is so cute, what's its name?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: Than, you know, oh hi, you're you look so friendly.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Can we can we be friends?
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, totally.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's a perfect icebreaker, you know, for both people, you know, and and so that that I tell you, that dog dish has been remarkable in meeting our neighbors.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: I I think I definitely that's kind of my next step of of what I need to do for sure.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's so simple.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: It is really simple.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I love too, I know for me, and and I want to tie this back to kind of how things evolved for you, but all I had to do was a friend got, you know, saw my chairs and I talked about the book and my excitement of it, and she read the book, and she was completely inspired as well.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: And she happens, it's just one of those things where she's a fairly new friend and she lives essentially down the street from me.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm thrilled to think that in our neighborhood we could be starting a trend uh here in Kansas City.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I know so I think that kind of happened for you too.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: So just tell me how that went from like you having, you know, this in your front yard to where it just kind of caught on.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, very similar to to your experience um and what I'm hearing, you know, the experience, you know, of of all of our people, you know, the people in the community.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: But so I said after I met Susan that very first day, I thought, okay, well, I need to try this again.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I I knew, you know, most or I knew about half of the neighbors in our neighborhood.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't like I didn't know anybody, right?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, right.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um but I knew the people who were most like me, moms, very busy, you know, kind of similar schedules and and patterns.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so I texted a few of those moms and just said, you know, hey, you've seen the table in the front yard, come meet me for coffee.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: And and they did, you know, and that was also one of the first lessons I learned at the table was the spontaneity of it all.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, usually like I love to walk people through the dialogue that like if the three of us right now were to pull out our iPhones and we were all standing in a circle together, you know, somewhere, you know, you know, school or church or something, and we were to we want to get together for coffee, right?
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because we all like each other and we want to get coffee.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: And and we we say, okay, let's find a date.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, all of us are looking at our iPhones going, oh well, maybe September, okay, we'll then in here, and then and we'll kind of go back and forth, and for a whole host of reasons, you know, it's gonna be 2018 before you know the three of us probably and I'm exaggerating a little bit, but we all felt that tension.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: We we want to get together, but when.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so the spontaneity of this was you know, come after drop off or you know, you know, just quickly.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: And there were only three people, it was small.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so we had a great morning.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think I made coffee, but I also think that.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Brought their own coffee.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so it was, I mean, you know, it there was room for no preparation.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: It was super easy.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: And here's what I didn't expect.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: I I kind of expected that maybe one or two of them would come just out of curiosity and because we knew each other.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: But I was always explaining the turquoise table to them.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, sort of this hypothesis of what if we were to start bringing to people, you know, people together in our front yards and get to know the neighbors we don't know.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um I did not expect for them to walk away and one of the girls at the table actually order a table on her phone while we were sitting there.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's awesome.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's when I went, you know, are you nuts?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: Really, you're gonna do this too?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: And so it all of a sudden became a, you know, their enthusiasm was again just another marker of, you know, of affirmation that, okay, well then let's just keep going.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: The next, you know, the next step.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: And then my sister-in-law in San Antonio, I was telling her about it.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so her birthday was like that next week.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: And so she said, I'm gonna get a turquoise table for my birthday.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: And I went, well, okay, you know, and then a friend in South Carolina, and then one in Nebraska, and that I never anticipated, you know.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: I did not anticipate, but but the reason is it was it was meeting a need, you know.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: We you know, we live in this digital age and technology is incredible, but it is also isolating, and so I I feel like we all want a simple solution to be together.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um while a table provides it, it does.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you even brought up that point, like, okay, so we're gonna try to get together.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: So when you're hanging out with friends and you inadvertently pull out your phone, you know, it's you well meaning to check your calendar, and then you see that text or then that email notification or something.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, notifications have a way of making what's not important urgent, and it's a real slippery slope, and I know that when I hang out with friends, that happens often, and and there are emergencies and things that you need to respond to quickly, I get that, but I like what you talked about in the book about the eye basket, and just share that with a little bit because I get like you know, our phones are super helpful and sometimes very important to respond to, but the very nature of sometimes you know, touching it and opening it up, but it's like so distraction, distracting and takes away from the time and being present with those around you.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and the eye basket, you know, came about because of this very thing.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I noticed, you know, that my kids and even Tony and I, um, you know, we're we're becoming, I mean, I'm just gonna call it what it is, addicted to our to our iPhone.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, like you said, it was the tyranny of the urgent.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, we would look, you know, some, you know, maybe like something very, oh, I'll check that real quick.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: But then you don't, you get sucked into all of the all of the things, you know, and all of a sudden you're like, you're no longer present at the dinner table or the conversation.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: You are now, you know, onto your, you know, whatever vortex you've been, you know, pulled into.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so long before the turquoise table, um, you know, I I came, I just I stuck a basket on our our entry hall table.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: And during dinner, and when friends, the children's friends would come over, I was like, please, you know, you're here to be together.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: I put it in the eye basket.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: And and so now we have one at the table.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, it it it's it is now at first people were like, oh, but what if I get the call from school or I'm just gonna check this if it's my husband, or I'm and all those things that we all do, which is good, you know.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: But really, you know, in in a 30-minute conversation, I mean, yes, I guess, you know, something could happen, but really what are the odds?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, exactly.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's at first it was everybody was a little hesitant, and me too, you know, I was tentative.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, okay, it's kind of nerve-wracking to put there.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: But now that eye basket, it's like the first thing people plop it in and they're like, you can just see it's like this relief.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I am I am unplugged and at the table, face to face for 30 minutes, you know, however long, two hours, whatever.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's so good.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: That first initial, like with the draw of like, you know, turning it off or putting it away feels a little intimidating or nerve-wracking.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: But once you do it, man, I I love it.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we recently went on a vacation where I just I it was just so nice because I was like, well, I'm kind of with everyone that I love and care about, so I can can put this away for the most part, and it was so great.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: I loved the feeling of it because then it just it really did help you engage with the people right there and be fully present, as you talk about in the book often.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now, as a mom of four kids, and they're all still at home, right?
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so how and you you did mention that two of them are introverts.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: What does it look like to kind of pull them into this?
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Did you kind of have to pull them into it?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Did they catch your vision right away and get excited about doing things in the front yard that they normally maybe would do inside?
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: What did that look like for you?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: At first they really did.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they thought it was fun and it was new and and we were together, you know.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I think even the kids acknowledge like, oh wow, this is this is something um you know that we could really, you know, get our get our heads around.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have three high schoolers now, so I'm gonna be honest.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: I do not want to be at the table with their mother, you know.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, totally.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_02: And it's also kind of become, you know, we now have rules, you know, mom can't post, you I can't post pictures of the teenagers at the table.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: So it has kind of shifted, um, you know, because now it's a thing.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_02: And when it wasn't a thing, it it was more organic for our family, but now they're like, Mom, you can't talk about us.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I appreciate that.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Now they still do use it.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: They use it, you know, the young life kids will meet out there as like a meeting place.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they'll meet for, you know, they they've done community service projects, and and so they'll they'll, you know, it's just a natural gravity, you know, gravitating place.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um our youngest, Sarah, is in fifth grade, and she is all about the table, and she is all about being on social media because she doesn't have an account yet.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: So she will literally say to me, it's like she has an agent or something, and she's like, here's mom, mom, here are the things you can post this week about me at the time.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's hilarious.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: And so that is totally, you know, opposite.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: But really, we we use it more, you know, in her age range, just because um she, you know, there's there she still loves having lemonade stands and bake sales for class projects.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um, so she right now, at just her stage of life, um, is is more into it.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I think it's such a fun age.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: My oldest is actually in fifth grade as well.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: And she this morning came to me, she's she drew a picture about an Instagram post.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: She was cracking me up because you know, she's not allowed, you know, to interact in on social media yet and all, but she's already like playing her future social media po so obviously our girls must have gotten the same idea somewhere like by living vicariously and drawn out pictures of the social media posts.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think Sarah thinks I'll say yes if if if it's about the table, you know.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: So she's probably she probably, yeah, yeah.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: She might be onto something.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and she may grow up to be a social media director, which is great because I would love that.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I know, right?
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: I that's why I keep thinking about like how how can um my kids' gifts interplay into whatever it is that the Lord's having us do.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's awesome.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: How great to be able to do it with them, which is great.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's like it's like as good as having maybe a pool in the backyard or the the cool game room or the cool movie room.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: You have that place where they can come gather.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and that's you know, I mean, how many I mean, we all say that we want to be the house where all the kids come.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, as I mean, every mother, I think.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that is like the ubiquitous wish.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so and and that that is really an extension of this, is that yes, I wanted that for our children and our family, but I also needed it to be really simple.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and I didn't want to uh have to clean the house or you know, or have, you know, do and so being outside has really then extended it then for just our family's needs to really our community's needs.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um because they'll be out, you know, it is so simple just to hang out at the table, you know, without the pressure of, you know, providing a dinner or entertaining or like, you know, like we said, there's no, you know, I do not need to pull out, you know, anything.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: One of our favorite things to do is have a clean out the fridge night.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: And literally, you know, you just bring, you know, whatever you had for dinner last night, you know, the half-empty box of crackers, yes, and we just dump it on the table.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: And guess what?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: It is always a feast, and it is, I mean, it it is always probably more delicious than if we had really planned, you know, a menu.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you and you feel weary because of all the output that you had to do in preparing and maybe the stress involved with it.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: And instead, it's just simple and you're able to engage, you know, with energy left over instead of you know, it all spent on the preparing part of it.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's beautiful.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's a beautiful um just you know, that drawing the difference between the hospitality and entertaining, and if we just more had the spirit of hospitality and not worrying about the entertaining, uh, we could see a lot of great fruit from that.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: Well, one friend, one friend called it the greatest hospitality hack ever.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, okay, well, you know, just come to the table and be present, and that's all that you really need to do.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: And that's not really a hack.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: That is that's the intent of what you know how you how you really do grow in birth community.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, but putting it in terms for this day and age.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's so great because I mean I love I love things like Pinterest, and you know, Martha Stewart really kind of launched all of us into that of the ideal, and those are really fun and those are really great to do for unique um occasions, but I think we've because it's we've kind of become a Pinterest-driven society in a way that we've put this unnecessary pressure on ourselves to for it to be that way.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: So then we we make it so unattainable that we just don't do it at all, um, or very rarely, and you know, just the way you present this idea it makes it where you can do this several times a week.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and if you're an extrovert, it's not draining at all.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, right, because there's not like this exhaustive effort that you're you're putting forth in order to just sit and be with with um folks in your neighborhood or just you know, other people from around, or for or for to even house your kids, because that probably would be a lot of complaint of many people, even though you want to be the home that the kids come to, you know, then you're like feeling like you have to clean up and you know clean up after them.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: But if they're all out the table and they're eating out there and you know, it just kind of centers around that, then it takes takes another load off for sure.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: No mess, no noise inside the house.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Keep the noise in the mess where it belongs.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's coming from the introvert, yes.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_02: And no glitter.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: No glitter.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, actually, that's brilliant right there.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Glitter to your heart's content out there in the grass.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: Here's another thing we did.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: So when my kids were really little, um, a woman in our in our and we were in another neighborhood not far from here, she would host uh Easter egg dyeing parties for all the young moms.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: So that has been because my children now are a little older than a lot of the kids in the neighborhood.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so it the last four years we have had an an you know, now it's an annual Easter egg dyeing party in our front yard.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: And let me tell you what, those mamas love it because there's no dye on their floor, there's no mess, and it's outside in my front yard, so I don't care.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: And and we do cascaronis, and the kids, do y'all know what cascaronis are where you have confetti eggs?
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: So they're confetti eggs.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and so confetti eggs are the most fun thing ever.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, excuse me, they're not I'm not gonna have those in the house, right?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: No way.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: We'll still have Easter confetti at Christmas, you know.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: So we do all of this and the kids love it, and then the mamas get to go home to clean houses.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: And so awesome.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so there's just uh being outside, you know, it it really it's answered a lot of prayers.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, for sure.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I love it.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you are in Texas, so that probably is a little bit more accessible, um, you know, all year round.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: But even here in Kansas City, I mean, we don't have feet, you know, of snow through the winter or anything, so there's still plenty of time of year to do it.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: And just it's you know about seizing every opportunity that you can to get out there and and do these sort of things.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and members of our community are adapting, you know.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was really I I was a little shocked when um there there at the early on there were just an enormous amount of tables in Minnesota.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, Minnesotans can't, you know, use this, you know, you know, the majority of the winter.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: And so great creative ideas.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: And yes, if you have to move inside, you move inside, but what it does is it, you know, it just gets you in the habit of gathering.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, it it it's it's like a baby step for hospitality.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then once those relationships, you know, are developed, then yeah, of course you go inside, or but then you don't care so much if the house is a wreck or if you know, because you it it it just there's just an evolution of it um that has just been priceless.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because you become more comfortable with those people and you've you you know you've broken bread easily together in the simplicity of the front yard.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, what's the like dining room table if it's not sparkling, or maybe you didn't sweep yet that day.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because you know, well, at least there's not leaves all around and bugs or look the dust bunnies.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, exactly.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I can tell Kristen we are running out of time for what you had available today, but I was really excited, actually we both were, because um Ashley lives near a Tuesday morning, and I was um reading as well on your website about the fact that um there might be some um actual products coming out soon.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: So tell us about that.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's amazing.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_02: They did, so they're out, they're in stores now.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: They are, they are.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_02: So we have partnered with Tuesday morning stores, and um they have helped me curate the two the turquoise table collection.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and so that's amazing.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's so and it's so fun.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: And um the, I mean, inexpensive, you know, melamine plates that are that are precious, but again, keeping it so so simple and and you know, easy to do.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: And so not to get distracted by them, but just to, you know, have fun, um, easy coffee mugs and and plates and things that you can carry out, um, you know, just to to have encourage people to use the table.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so those are in stores now.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's awesome.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: I might have to run out against it.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm kind of in need of new dishes on the way home.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's so awesome.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: And a couple other things I just want to point out because I think this is really awesome.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I've used that word a lot this morning, forgive me.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: But um, it is, it's so great.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: I just get excited.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but the nonprofits and community um partnerships, Chick-fil-A, Ronald McDonald House, tell me a little bit more about those as well.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the the Ronald McDonald House happened, um, you know, one of their donors donated um a uh a turquoise table to the Central Texas Ronald McDonald House.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: And so I love that story because um it it sits outside in their and right next to their playground.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: And and when I talked to the executive director about it, you know, she said, you know, we thought it'd be really fun and and a great place for for the siblings and children, you know, to gather.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: What she didn't expect, and what it what really touched me was that um that's where the parents have gone.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um and she her office sits you know overlooks the table, and she can see you know parents out there.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: And there was one woman who every day at two o'clock would sit at the table to call her family back home, her husband, um, and get a couple of medical updates for one for their child, um, you know, who was in the hospital right across the street.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: And and it just it what that story uh, you know, led me to believe was just the the you know amazing ways um that that that of the need for the for a table and for a safe gathering place.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um and people are being creative all across America, you know, there are now turquoise tables in every state except for Wyoming.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know what's going on in Wyoming, but okay.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: There's not a turquoise table yet in Wyoming.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um but people are using them.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's one in an airport terminal.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: There is in hospital courtyards and um and in school atriums and and libraries, and so there has become this um you know sort of movement beyond front yards just to still gather uh people in a very whimsical and and simple way.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um and in Austin, we have partnered with a local nonprofit called ReWork, and Rework employs men and women who are struggling with homelessness and who are transitioning out of um a program um and into mainstream life, and so they are building the turquoise tables for us here locally.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: And so I just I just love the level, you know, the layer layers and level of community um that that brings to the table, pun intended.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's yeah, that's amazing, Kristen.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: You have um just taken, just stewarded a gift of hospitality, and you have um really done well and just creating a movement that is is truly changing lives.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I applaud you for um sticking with it because I I know that sometimes putting your ideas out there and you're you know working hard on like sharing in a book and all the process of of launching a book, it's hard work, especially while still running a family and maintaining the integrity of your lifestyle of the turquoise table.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for you know staying true and faithful to this message and sharing.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I just love that this is really a movement.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: This isn't just a book, but this is a movement that people can get on board and um continue to share this message of the turquoise table.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's uh it's my favorite thing to do is spread turquoise love.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm delighted to be with you all this morning.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: I hope you enjoyed that conversation as much as Ashley and I did.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to be sure and check our show notes for details how you can get your hands on Kristen's new book, The Turquoise Table: Finding Community and Connection in Your Own Front Yard.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: We are doing a giveaway for a limited time for this book.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: So if maybe it's not in the budget to run out and go buy it right now, I encourage you to enter the giveaway or maybe if you want an extra copy on hand to give to one of your neighbor friends and start a movement or revolution in your neighborhood.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: We are also excited to go check out our Tuesday morning and maybe grab some of those dishes, that new line of products that she's been able to partner with.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: How exciting for her! And what a neat opportunity to continue on this message of simplicity and hospitality and gathering small but loving deep.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: What a what a beautiful message and a beautiful way that we can reach out to our neighbors and friends in the simple move of just creating open space and creating um an opportunity for great conversation.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I hope that um you will be encouraged to do this and be sure and check out again our wonderful music that we have that has been recorded by Inner the Worship Circle and it's from their album down here and up above this soundtrack that you're hearing is Heavenly Things, which is song number four on their newest album.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: So grateful to Carla Adolph and Ben Pasley for their gifts and for their talents.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm certainly looking forward to having them on the podcast soon.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: If you've enjoyed this podcast, we'd really love it if you'd share it with your friends.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um maybe you want to share the giveaway opportunity, but also the conversation behind the book.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: So um be sure and leave a review on iTunes that just kind of gives why you enjoy it and what you like about it.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: And feel free to take time to email or message us on Facebook or on Instagram, wherever you follow us, and let us know if you have any uh authors or speaker friends or people that you know who live wholeheartedly and you would love for us to share a conversation with them and share their story with our friends.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: So, in the meantime, I hope that you find more ways to live simply wholehearted, unplugged, purposeful, and intentional.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: Until next time,