Latest / Simply Bitcoin / IMF DESTROYS El Salvador's Bitcoin LAW (Is It OVER?!) | EP 1195
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- 0:00Yo, is the Bitcoin experiment in El Salvador officially over?
- 0:06The IMF published a 111 page bombshell report yesterday
- 0:12forcing El Salvador to do to rescind, essentially stop buying
- 0:18Bitcoin, officially stop mining Bitcoin, and stop all
- 0:23involvement in BTC bonds. Will this actually stop Buchele
- 0:28and El Salvador from buying Bitcoin considering over 108
- 0:33countries have, I believe the number is 9494 countries have
- 0:37debt with the IMF. What does El Salvador's pivot
- 0:41suggest for nation state Bitcoin adoption?
- 0:46I'll be totally blunt with you guys and I'm going to do this
- 0:48off the cuff. This is a big mother effing L
- 0:54But what I will say is they revealed their cards in the
- 0:59process. They showed you guys that the
- 1:03IMF steals Bitcoin as a clear and present danger.
- 1:09They see it as a threat to the system and they're willing to
- 1:15expose themselves in order to stop it.
- 1:20And one of the things that I found interesting, I've been in
- 1:23this industry for quite a while now, is that in 2021 when Naimbu
- 1:27Kelly made the announcement in Bitcoin 2021 Miami, first time I
- 1:32ever spoke at a Bitcoin conference and he made that
- 1:36announcement, historic announcement.
- 1:38It was the conference where Max Kaiser interviewed Michael
- 1:41Saylor on stage. You know, Jack Mahler's gave
- 1:44this very passionate speech. He started tearing up.
- 1:47And of course, the video of Ross Albre, the, the sound bit from
- 1:50Ross Albrecht and then Naimbu Kelly on stage, they, they
- 1:55played a video of him saying we're going to make Bitcoin
- 1:57legal tender. And in Bitcoin 2022, we were all
- 2:02expecting, all of us were expecting that this momentum was
- 2:06going to continue. It wasn't going to stop and it
- 2:10just stopped. It was very strange, like it
- 2:13fizzled out like no other countries followed in the
- 2:17footsteps of Michael of, of, of Naimbu Kelly.
- 2:22And I never quite understood why.
- 2:25Now we know why. And if you connect the dots,
- 2:29this is what we do on the show is connect the dots, right?
- 2:32We now know because of Doge and Elon Musk that a lot of these
- 2:36legacy media outlets were funded by the government.
- 2:43The legacy media outlets were some of the they attacked El
- 2:49Salvador relentlessly to the point where Naimbu Kelly wrote
- 2:53an article for Bitcoin magazine called Don't drink the elites
- 2:56kool-aid where he says that their most important weapon is
- 2:58their control and the truth. Yesterday we showed you guys the
- 3:02Victory lap article by the Economist where the Economist
- 3:06was basically saying that the the Bitcoin experiment, El
- 3:10Salvador was an absolute failure.
- 3:12It wasn't a failure. They failed to mention that the
- 3:14IMF essentially strong armed El Salvador into taking this this
- 3:19deal. And if you think about what the
- 3:22implications of that are, it's pretty crazy.
- 3:26The IMF blocked a sovereign country from buying Bitcoin.
- 3:34Say that again, the IMF, the International Monetary Fund is
- 3:39the same people that talk all this goodness about democracy,
- 3:43right? Blocked a sovereign country that
- 3:48democratically passed the law that the vast majority of the
- 3:52people support. Naimbu Kelly has one of the
- 3:54highest approval ratings out of any president in the Americas.
- 3:58And the IMF stepped in there and said no, no, no, no, no.
- 4:04You can't have Bitcoin as legal tender.
- 4:05In fact, you can't not only have Bitcoin as legal tender, you
- 4:09can't buy Bitcoin and you can't mine Bitcoin.
- 4:16The gloves are off. The curtain has been pulled.
- 4:20This is the final boss. This is the separation of money
- 4:24and state. This is what we're we've been
- 4:26talking about for all these years and months.
- 4:29This is happening. It's like we're here now they're
- 4:32telling you where they're drawing the line explains so
- 4:36much, right? So anyways, we're going to break
- 4:39it down. We have articles for you guys.
- 4:41We have a very special guest, incredible content creator.
- 4:43We got Rajat joining us on the show today.
- 4:45Of course, my legendary Co host, my best friend and Co founder of
- 4:50Simply Bitcoin, Optimus Fields in the house joining us as well.
- 4:54All right, guys, no more delay. Let's jump straight into the
- 4:56article by Coin Telegraph. IMF deal to ban public sector
- 5:02Bitcoin accumulation in El Salvador The IMF has issued new
- 5:07requests under its $1.5 billion deal with El Salvador, aiming to
- 5:12restrict BTC purchases by the public sector.
- 5:16The IMF is looking to restrict Bitcoin purchases by El Salvador
- 5:19as part of an extended $1.4 billion funding arrangement with
- 5:23the country. On March 3rd, the IMF issued a
- 5:27new requests for an extended arrangement under its Fund
- 5:31Facility to El Salvador, filing several new documents, including
- 5:35a staff statement update and a statement by its executive
- 5:40director for El Salvador. The technical memorandum of
- 5:45understanding indicated a condition of quote no voluntary
- 5:49accumulation of Bitcoin by the public sector in El Salvador.
- 5:54Additionally, the memorandum requested the restriction of
- 5:57public sector issuance of quote any type of debt or tokenized
- 6:01instrument that is indexed or denominated in Bitcoin and
- 6:05implies a liability to the public sector.
- 6:09Here is it. Here is the the things
- 6:11specifically no voluntary accumulation of BTC by the
- 6:15public sector, Bitcoins by the public sector.
- 6:17I love how they call it anyways, I'm not going down that that
- 6:21route, but this whole public sector thing is BS.
- 6:25OK, because that's one of the like the the arguments that the
- 6:27central bankers use when they say Bitcoin is private money and
- 6:33Fiat money is public money versus anyone could audit
- 6:36Bitcoin at anytime, anyone could create more Bitcoin, right?
- 6:40It's a completely transparent open Ledger Fiat.
- 6:44You can't audit the Fiat system, you can't create more of Fiat or
- 6:48else you go to jail. What sounds more public and what
- 6:50sounds more private to you? Again, they project on to us
- 6:54what it is they are guilty of themselves.
- 6:56Bitcoins by the public sector are private in all hot and cold
- 7:00wallets owned by or under the control of the public sector,
- 7:04including Chivo, Adhencia, Administadora de Ritcoin,
- 7:09Officina, Nacional de Ritcoin Commission, Cutiva,
- 7:14Hydroelectica, Del Rio Lempa, and all other public sector
- 7:18entities and legal persons controlled by the State with
- 7:22majority voting interest and or direct or indirect control by
- 7:27the 214 CFSM net of Chivo's client deposits in Chimo
- 7:33dominated in Bitcoin. Voluntary, Voluntary
- 7:36accumulation. Voluntary accumulation of
- 7:39bitcoins includes purchase and mining of bitcoins and excludes
- 7:43the accumulation of bitcoins resulting from forfeiture or
- 7:47seizure, apprehension, custody, or other form of property or
- 7:50possession by the government, rising from law enforcement
- 7:53measures adopted in accordance with Salvadorian law.
- 7:56So, right, as long as you steal it from criminals, that's a not
- 8:02OK, fine. As long as you seize it from
- 8:04criminals, OK, They committed a crime.
- 8:06But again, you know who's making the laws that determine what is
- 8:11a crime, what is not a crime, right?
- 8:12So that's open to interpretation.
- 8:16That is OK, But you can't buy it, right?
- 8:20You can't buy it. But but this they can accumulate
- 8:24it with taxes though, no like it's based on that.
- 8:27Let's keep going, right? I think I maybe maybe you're
- 8:29right, Rajat so. I don't know.
- 8:31I haven't read the article. I'm just saying like just based
- 8:33on the wording there, it maybe I, I don't know, could could do
- 8:35you think you guys think? That could be possible possibly,
- 8:37but I think that they would they're, they're going to, you
- 8:39know how like there's 22 and 23, they're just going to add 24.
- 8:43And it said no accumulation via taxes.
- 8:46I I mean I they might not say in this article, but I think they
- 8:49said that they will stop the payment of taxes in Bitcoin.
- 8:53So Yep. And then it keeps going.
- 8:55The IMF, Menendez, Bertolo Bertolo quote, Bitcoin related
- 9:00risks are being mitigated. What are those risks?
- 9:03What are those risks? They were right when Bitcoin,
- 9:06when El Salvador started buying Bitcoin, it was like what like
- 9:101630 K per coin. They made a fortune.
- 9:13They 3X their money. And what risks like I think
- 9:17inflation poses a bigger risk on society than Bitcoin.
- 9:21That's they don't want you to know that This is why they're so
- 9:24they cannot lose ground on this. I cannot emphasize this enough,
- 9:30but they're inevitably going to lose because the genie's out of
- 9:32the bottle. You can't put it back in
- 9:34anyways. In an accompanying statement
- 9:36from February 26th, 26th, Menendez Bertolo, the Fund's
- 9:41executive director for El Salvador, emphasized that the
- 9:43IMF's Extended Fund Facility for El Salvador aims to provide,
- 9:48quote, improvements in government's transparency and
- 9:51resilience to boost confidence in the country's growth
- 9:54potential. I mean, you see El Salvador's
- 9:57GDP like it's been blowing up, their crime rate has been going
- 10:02down. Like what are you talking about?
- 10:05It's all like central bank mumbo jumbo BS to try to legitimize
- 10:12tyrannical actions behind sophisticated vocabulary.
- 10:18Because that's really what it is.
- 10:20The authorities enacted amendments to the Bitcoin law
- 10:23that clarify the legal nature of Bitcoin, and removed from the
- 10:26law the essential features of legal tender.
- 10:29To address Rajat's point, acceptance of Bitcoin will be
- 10:32voluntary. Tax payments will be made in
- 10:35U.S. dollars. So they're completely stopping
- 10:39El Salvador and holding them hostage, essentially stopping El
- 10:43Salvador's ability to acquire Bitcoin.
- 10:47The next step is they're going to try to force El Salvador to
- 10:50sell Bitcoin, sell their Bitcoin holdings.
- 10:53This is insanity. Now, do I believe this happened?
- 10:57This was a coincidence? No Naimbu Kelly went on Twitter
- 11:01yesterday, March 3rd. This was announced.
- 11:05This this was announcement came on March 3rd as well, right?
- 11:09Naimbu Kelly made this announcement on March 3rd at
- 11:12nine, 9:13 PM and he said, look at this, we bought the dip,
- 11:19we're buying Bitcoin, right? So this makes the IMF look like
- 11:24a fool, right? That's that's what essentially
- 11:27it's happening. The IMF is exerting authority
- 11:31over a sovereign nation. And when you come to realize
- 11:35that the IMF has 94 loans with other sovereign nations, then
- 11:43you it, it, it begs the question, are these countries
- 11:45really sovereign? Is is the IMF really calling the
- 11:48shots for all these countries economically?
- 11:51And then again, look at this meme like this makes the IMF
- 11:55look bad, right? Naimbo Kelly is like, bought the
- 11:58dip, the actual dip, the dip of the dip, the dip of the dippity
- 12:01dip, dip, dip, right? And then Elon Musk even
- 12:05commented with a smiling face, if you're the IMF and you're
- 12:10interested in exerting authority over all these countries, now we
- 12:13can say that without a shadow of a doubt, right?
- 12:16This is embarrassing to you, right?
- 12:18Because if countries, specifically smaller countries,
- 12:22come to realize that there's an alternative way to the IMF for
- 12:29their countries to get ahead, that's a problem.
- 12:33That's a danger. And could you imagine, El
- 12:36Salvador has AGDP of $32 billion.
- 12:40Elon Musk's net worth is 450 billion.
- 12:43Just to kind of give you guys a reference.
- 12:45It's a very small country in Central America, developing
- 12:49country, went through a civil war.
- 12:51Why are they so hell bent on stopping them from acquiring
- 12:56Bitcoin? You know that that's the
- 12:58question. Why are they so hell bent?
- 13:00Now? Here's some comments from the
- 13:02community. Here's Preston Pish.
- 13:04He says this is disgusting and straight out of the IMF
- 13:07playbook. Naimbu Kelly needs to address
- 13:09this very publicly. I agree, Alex Gladstein, chief
- 13:14strategy officer at the Human Rights Foundation that has done
- 13:18incredible work on the IMF, He says.
- 13:20I feel like the fact that at the IMF is forcing El Salvador to
- 13:23stop it's Bitcoin adoption should be bigger news. 0
- 13:27coverage in the mainstream economic media.
- 13:30We know why. We know why with Doge.
- 13:33We know why. Who owns the mainstream
- 13:35economic, Who's been funding the mainstream economic media?
- 13:39A lot of that funding came from the government itself.
- 13:41You know the government. It's also funded by the Fiat
- 13:44system. But anyways, it continues 0
- 13:48coverage in the mainstream economic media.
- 13:50But think of the simple implication.
- 13:51The IMF considers Bitcoin a threat, no longer useless, but
- 13:56revolutionary. And then I went on a Twitter
- 13:58rampage this morning when I saw this news, as I was seeing red.
- 14:02First thing that I said is the fact that the IMF is blocking a
- 14:05sovereign country from buying Bitcoin is the signal.
- 14:08Apparently that's Opti's original thought from
- 14:10yesterday's episode. I don't remember.
- 14:12That, but I'll give him credit. My tweets.
- 14:14I'll give him credit for that. I don't remember that at all,
- 14:17but whatever, I'll give Opti credit.
- 14:19Wow Opti game 4.0 and then. 94 countries have loans with the
- 14:25IMF. All those countries were just
- 14:27sent a message that they can't buy Bitcoin.
- 14:30This is why after 2021, no other countries following El Salvador,
- 14:33something stopped the momentum. We now have a pretty good idea
- 14:37of who was behind it. I mean, this is massive.
- 14:41This is massive. This is a separation of money
- 14:44and state. Ladies and gentlemen, this is
- 14:45what it's all about. We were eventually going to
- 14:48reach this moment where something was going to give and
- 14:51they were going to say, no, no, that's not happening.
- 14:54And you're hearing a lot of the wording coming from, you know, a
- 14:58specific people is actually Opti.
- 15:00You were reading an article from Parker Lewis yesterday about how
- 15:06Parker is essentially concerned that people are calling Bitcoin
- 15:10a commodity and not money. People are forgetting that it's
- 15:13money. And and this is essentially the
- 15:16the, the, the bargain right now with politicians.
- 15:19It's like, you know what? Bitcoin isn't money.
- 15:20It's a commodity. You don't have to worry about
- 15:22it. But we all fundamentally have to
- 15:24remember it is money. And the IMF fears that Bitcoin
- 15:29is money so much that they literally drew a line in the
- 15:33sand and said, El Salvador, no, you can't do this.
- 15:37And you break it down first principles, and then I'm going
- 15:40to shut up and pass it to Rajat, OK?
- 15:42Why do they fear it? Why do they fear it?
- 15:46The reason they fear it is because the longer Bitcoin
- 15:50exists, the longer it proves that money can exist without
- 15:57inflation. Currency debasement and
- 16:00inflation happened to be one of the primary funding mechanisms
- 16:05for for world governments worldwide.
- 16:08And the if Bitcoin is considered, if Bitcoin is put on
- 16:12a level playing field, it's equal legally to the US dollar
- 16:18and it's a, it's a superior currency.
- 16:22Politicians are going to be put in a very, very difficult
- 16:25position because they're going to have to explain to their
- 16:29populations why inflation is necessary in order for money to
- 16:34function. We there's been a social
- 16:37contract for property tax, there's been a social contract
- 16:40for sales tax, there's been a social contract for income tax,
- 16:44but there is no social contract for money tax.
- 16:49There doesn't exist. They're relying on you not
- 16:54knowing any better. And you see this when
- 16:57politicians try to gaslight you by giving you all these reasons
- 17:02as to why inflation is happening.
- 17:03It's the war, it's the supply chains, it's the pandemic, it's
- 17:09the weather. I'm not kidding.
- 17:10Like they've released articles blaming the inflation on the
- 17:13weather, right? They blame everything and
- 17:18anything but themselves. But they are literally the sole
- 17:23'cause there is no other 'cause it's central banks and
- 17:27governments issuing more money, increasing the money supply,
- 17:32therefore causing monetary debasement and inflation.
- 17:36That's what it's about. This is a narrative game.
- 17:39This is narrative trench warfare on the battlegrounds of the
- 17:41Internet. Naimbu Kelly was humiliating
- 17:44them with memes. Elon Musk got involved.
- 17:47Elon Musk, one of the most influential popular people, he's
- 17:49throwing a laughing emoji. It embarrasses them and they
- 17:53say, you know what, we're going to show our big stick and show
- 17:57everybody who's in charge. And that's what's happening.
- 18:01But the silver lining about all of this is that they have now
- 18:06officially exposed who they are and what it's about.
- 18:12It's always been about control, and now there's no shadow of a
- 18:17doubt and they fear Bitcoin. They're terrified of Bitcoin and
- 18:22they're willing to show their true intentions to in order to
- 18:28try to stop it. Anyways, Rajat monologue over
- 18:32this is crazy historic day in bitcoins history.
- 18:35They're trying to stop the inevitable.
- 18:38This is just going to delay things if anything.
- 18:41But yeah, man, I mean, from a nation state adoption
- 18:45standpoint, the IMF holds a considerable amount of influence
- 18:49and control over so many countries worldwide.
- 18:53Now they're basically saying any of those countries, any of those
- 18:569, 24 countries that have loans with the IMF, don't even dare
- 19:01thinking about buying Bitcoin because we won't give you those
- 19:05SDRS, We won't give you those loans.
- 19:07Rajat, what's your take? I mean, the, the, if you think
- 19:11about it, the US dollar is a, it's a, it's a product, right?
- 19:14It's like if, if Apple were to, if Apple had the power to ban
- 19:18Samsung, they would, right? And if they had leverage over
- 19:23Samsung's users and or they, they had leverage over Samsung
- 19:27and they just banned them, they, they could easily did they do
- 19:30that right? And then that's what they do
- 19:32with these, these loans when they're giving money to El
- 19:35Salvador. They're, they're basically
- 19:39giving them this money to, to buy whatever they need to
- 19:43whatever, whatever they need to spend their money on.
- 19:45And they have this leverage over them now.
- 19:48And if leverage is what they want, right, they don't care
- 19:50about, they don't care about the dollars.
- 19:52They can create more dollars out of nothing.
- 19:53They want to be able to keep creating more and more dollars.
- 19:55That's why they want people to not buy Bitcoin.
- 19:57That's why they want governments to not buy Bitcoin.
- 20:00And I think this is going to get worse.
- 20:02They're they're we're in the, I think we're in the they then
- 20:04they fight you stage. But I mean, at the end of the
- 20:07day, it doesn't really matter. I have this, I have this phrase
- 20:11that I say a lot. Bitcoin runs out at every price
- 20:14and it will run out. It doesn't really matter what
- 20:16price it is. It's never going to go to those
- 20:18lower and lower prices that it was before.
- 20:21Take this as an opportunity that that's the best thing you can
- 20:24do, right? At the end of the day, you
- 20:25understand what the fundamentals are.
- 20:27You understand where this is going.
- 20:29You understand that this is going to go up forever.
- 20:31So this is, it's an opportunity to, to get financial freedom at
- 20:35what, 30% off? Why, why complain?
- 20:38We, we don't complain when prices go down for let's say
- 20:43like like ATV on Black Friday, we're happy to see a discount.
- 20:46But when a, when the price of Bitcoin comes down, why should
- 20:49we be be disappointed? We're so early.
- 20:52It, it just gives more and more people an opportunity to to
- 20:54build their wealth to have as much Bitcoin as they possibly
- 20:57can. And I think that's a good thing.
- 20:59A. 100% no, I, I 100% agree with you.
- 21:04And you can't stop this. Like you, you can't stop this.
- 21:07This is inevitable. They're delaying the inevitable,
- 21:10if anything. But yeah, I mean, it, it, it, it
- 21:15really showed their true colors. And, and you know what, I, Opti
- 21:18and I have been predicting this for a while.
- 21:19Inevitably we are going to reach this point.
- 21:22We've been making the case that what we've been living through
- 21:25as a society really for the last 10 years has, has been like the
- 21:30great disintermediation, right? We, we saw the disintermediation
- 21:33of media with the rise of social media.
- 21:37And essentially what we're witnessing right now is the
- 21:39great disintermediation of money.
- 21:41And look at how much they fought social media, like they
- 21:45misinformation deplatforming, you know, pressure from the
- 21:49government to put pressure on private companies to censor
- 21:52speech. It's still happening in Europe.
- 21:54Like they don't want to let go of that.
- 21:56It's so much power now. Now we're going after money,
- 22:01right? Like, Oh my God, Like, did you
- 22:03think that they were just going to lay over and say, you know
- 22:05what, guys? You found better money?
- 22:07You're right. Like it's OK, you know, you, you
- 22:11guys are here are the keys. Good luck.
- 22:13No, they're going to fight tooth and nail.
- 22:15And you know what's really effed up because they talk about
- 22:18financial stability and they talk about all these, you know,
- 22:21like virtuous reasons as to why they do what they do.
- 22:24Like what financial stability do you have if you're an Argentina
- 22:29and you're dealing with double digit inflation and a Bitcoin is
- 22:31the only way to escape that? Like that, that is evil.
- 22:38I don't know what else, what other word to use.
- 22:41Like evil, like you're essentially like.
- 22:44And one of the conditions too that the IMF gave Argentina was
- 22:48listen, because people, the IMF could say no, no, no, Nico, we
- 22:53just don't want the government to to hold Bitcoin.
- 22:56One of the conditions that the IMF gave to Argentina for their
- 23:00loan was that the government had to de incentivize the adoption
- 23:05of Bitcoin by the local populace.
- 23:07Meanwhile, this is a country that at the time was dealing
- 23:10with double digit inflation. That is, that is evil.
- 23:15They don't care about financial stability.
- 23:18They don't care about all these things, all these virtuous
- 23:21words. In my opinion, from my
- 23:24perspective, when I'm seeing here, they care about control.
- 23:29That's what it's about, control. Please make me another argument
- 23:36that that it's not about control.
- 23:38Please make me another argument. How could you stop people from
- 23:42adopting an alternative currency that's going to allow them to
- 23:47save and earn and potentially put food on the table for their
- 23:51families? Like what is the argument
- 23:54against that? So it it doesn't matter how much
- 23:57like how much beautiful vocabulary and virtue virtuous
- 24:01words you use. Like you know, the proof is in
- 24:05the work. Like full stop.
- 24:07Opti, what's your opinion on this bro?
- 24:09I mean, this is another simply Bitcoin moment.
- 24:12Tomorrow's Bitcoin use today because dude, we absolutely
- 24:16nailed it. They finally took their mask off
- 24:19and they're, they're, they're telling you they're, they're
- 24:21just like, look, we're scared shitless of this thing and we're
- 24:24willing to do whatever it takes in order to stop it.
- 24:27Yeah, I mean, anyone that has read well, first of all, shouts
- 24:31out to our boy Sessions in the chat.
- 24:33And he said, read Gladstone's Hidden repression to get a
- 24:35picture of how evil the IMF is. Love the suggestion.
- 24:38I was going to say, anyone who's read Confessions of an Economic
- 24:41Hitman already know how the IMF works.
- 24:44If you read that book or know any kind of elementary view of
- 24:50the IMF, not coming from the IMF itself, you understand how this
- 24:54works. And they are using loans and
- 24:56what we're seeing with El Salvador as a way to gain
- 24:58leverage over countries. This has been happening for a
- 25:01long time. This isn't a new idea.
- 25:03Now, you know this, as Nico said in the beginning, this does feel
- 25:07or rather is a huge L obviously as Bitcoin as we feel, I think
- 25:11let down and disappointed about this.
- 25:13When this news first came out about this $1.4 billion IMF
- 25:17loan, a lot of us, well, maybe me in particular, we're kind of
- 25:20giving Buchelli the benefit of the doubt, realizing that, hey,
- 25:23you know, he's got to do what he has to do for his country for
- 25:25infrastructure to build it to progress and Bitcoiners aren't
- 25:29the sole citizens that he is concerned about.
- 25:32Now, in hindsight, it looks like there was a lot of concessions
- 25:35that are being made around Bitcoin.
- 25:37Obviously the main thing that we saw that was I would say more
- 25:41aligned with the Bitcoin ethos is this idea that Bitcoin is now
- 25:43voluntary. As we all know, Bitcoin is a
- 25:46permissionless network. And so we kind of applauded that
- 25:48more like, OK, that's cool. Now it seems like there is a lot
- 25:51of concessions that are being made where they have to kind of
- 25:54divest from either buy more Bitcoin, Bitcoin mining, no more
- 25:58Bitcoin bond. It feels like a lot of L's right
- 26:01now, but it is very interesting that Naibu Kelly kind of is
- 26:04trolling on Twitter and still buying Bitcoin.
- 26:07Now I know some of the the fine print in that loan, again, it
- 26:11was 111 pages. It wasn't all about Bitcoin, but
- 26:15the bulk of it was about Bitcoin, which I think is very
- 26:17telling is that I think the buys of Bitcoin will have to end by
- 26:222025. So maybe he's going to stack as
- 26:25much as he can. Though there is this talk about
- 26:27him having to divest from his Bitcoin holdings.
- 26:30So, you know, it's it's not looking good here.
- 26:33And as you know, the title kind of says, it does seem like
- 26:36Bitcoin country is officially over.
- 26:38This Bitcoin experiment in El Salvador seems to be dead now.
- 26:41It seems like we might not have any Bitcoin country left.
- 26:44And that's obviously horrible. And as we've been saying for a
- 26:47while, and Nico has been saying at the beginning of the show,
- 26:50ever since we saw El Salvador adopt Bitcoin, we were wondering
- 26:54why no one else has followed this lead of Naibu Kelly and
- 26:58started, you know, their own Bitcoin strategic reserves and
- 27:01their own stacking of Bitcoin, though, you know, Bhutan's still
- 27:04kind of going really strong out there.
- 27:06And now we know for a fact it's IMF.
- 27:07They're obviously pressuring these countries to stay away
- 27:10from Bitcoin. If they want their loans, if
- 27:12that, you know, they they want to maintain that money flowing
- 27:16in, then they can't touch Bitcoin.
- 27:17And I think this is the biggest signal.
- 27:20There's actually two things that I think are the biggest signal
- 27:22and Nico did hit both of them. One that as I said yesterday on
- 27:25the show, the biggest signal is that the IMF is absolutely
- 27:28terrified about Bitcoin. If they drop 111 page report on
- 27:32El Salvador, a tiny country, which now Nico Fact Check
- 27:34they're at 34 billion, but still tiny and and their main emphasis
- 27:38is Bitcoin. It's insane, like a tiny country
- 27:42adopting Bitcoin. It shouldn't really scare
- 27:45anyone. But as you can tell, they're
- 27:47starting to realize, or rather have realized a long time ago
- 27:51what Bitcoin actually means. And as Gladstein said, you know,
- 27:55Bitcoin is a revolution. And if it does catch on, as the
- 27:58Satoshi quote goes, then a lot of the Fiat games that we are so
- 28:03accustomed to that is kind of our status quo really go by, you
- 28:07know, the waste bin and they're over.
- 28:09And This is why this is kind of the final boss.
- 28:12We could argue that there's probably a few final bosses. 1
- 28:15is the Bank of International Settlements, basically the
- 28:17central bank, central bank. And then of course, the IMF with
- 28:20uses these loans to essentially enslave countries.
- 28:23Now the big part to me though, that is very interesting is that
- 28:28this very corrupt institution or very corrupt organization, the
- 28:32IMF is basically saying that, hey, you know, the El Salvador
- 28:36can't ethically acquire Bitcoin, but they can steal Bitcoin from
- 28:39anyone they want and that's OK by their guidelines.
- 28:42Now, like this kind of is like the simulation winking at us.
- 28:47Of course these institutions are going to be OK with them, you
- 28:50know, seizing Bitcoin and that's the only way they can acquire
- 28:53Bitcoin, which is just ass backwards as far as all of our
- 28:56US bit corners are concerned. So again, I'm not very happy
- 29:00about this. I think a huge L in regards to
- 29:03the global nation state adoption of Bitcoin though it is going to
- 29:06be very interesting to see see what happens in the US.
- 29:09Now if the US does kind of double down on their, you know,
- 29:13strategic shit coin reserve AKA mainly backed by Bitcoin, it's
- 29:17going to be interesting to see how the IMF responds to El
- 29:20Salvador or rather how El Salvador responds to IMF after
- 29:23the US does their own strategic Bitcoin reserve.
- 29:26Now again, it looks like Buckele is still buying Bitcoin, so I
- 29:32don't know. We'll have more news coming.
- 29:33Up from this. Hold on, we're OK, This is this
- 29:36is my next bit, right? We are El Salvador right now and
- 29:40the world because El Salvador represented.
- 29:44Remember, guys, symbolism is extremely important.
- 29:47OK? Symbolism is very important.
- 29:50The IMF didn't drop these rules after Naimbu Kelly dropped memes
- 29:58and drop a picture of them acquiring Bitcoin and Elon
- 30:01responding. None of that was a coincidence.
- 30:04But don't be naive. It's there's a tremendous amount
- 30:08of symbolism here. And what US Bitcoiners have to
- 30:11understand is we had a beach head.
- 30:14We had a beach head and that beach head was El Salvador where
- 30:18the men with guns, right? The state would essentially
- 30:23protect Bitcoiners because Bitcoin was legal tender, right?
- 30:26We've lost that beach head at the moment, right?
- 30:30That's the reality. El Salvador right now is at a
- 30:33crossroads, and I'll tell you why, Right.
- 30:37And I think Preston is 100% on point when he says Naimbu Kelly
- 30:42needs to address this publicly. And I know that he's thinking
- 30:47about it very, very deeply. Why am I saying that?
- 30:51Naimbu Kelly's last tweet was the meme about buying the dip.
- 30:56He has not tweeted since that tweet.
- 31:02El Salvador essentially is at a crossroads.
- 31:07And they have to essentially decide, you know, are we a
- 31:13sovereign country? Like, it's very, very harsh
- 31:17saying that, but that's essentially the decision because
- 31:22there you have an international organization that loves to talk
- 31:26about democracy. That is essentially saying we
- 31:31don't give a shit about democracy.
- 31:33You do exactly what I tell you. It doesn't matter that
- 31:37democratically you passed all these laws and the vast majority
- 31:41of the population wants to do this.
- 31:42No, no, no, no, we, the IMF make the rules about your economy and
- 31:49El Salvador, right? This is a crossroads moment in
- 31:54world history and Bitcoin history.
- 31:57And I agree with Preston. I think Naimbu Kelly has to
- 32:01address it. I think Max and Stacy, they've
- 32:06done an incredible job with the Bitcoin office and all this
- 32:09stuff. They, you know, I'm curious to
- 32:11see what their comments are on this stuff.
- 32:16I'm looking at Max's Twitter, nothing related to this.
- 32:21And let me take a look at Stacy because she's really been the
- 32:24one with the with the whole thing.
- 32:26Yep, last quote tweet from Stacy was exactly, you know, 15 hours
- 32:32ago, 13 hours ago quote tweeting Elon Musk and Naimbu Kelly.
- 32:36Make no mistake, the IMF was reacting to, you know, that
- 32:41meme, right? This is the power of memes.
- 32:44This is why it's narrative trench warfare on the
- 32:45battlegrounds of the Internet. That that literally is not an
- 32:49over exaggeration when we say that this is pretty crazy, guys.
- 32:52I don't know what else to tell you.
- 32:54We'll keep you guys informed. This is the separation of money
- 32:57and say did you really expect it to be easy?
- 32:59It was never going to be easy. And by the way, things are just
- 33:03going to get crazier from here because you guys have to
- 33:06understand what the implications are, right?
- 33:09Bitcoin is giving the power of money back to the people.
- 33:13That is what's happening. And obviously, you know, the
- 33:16powers that be do not want that to happen.
- 33:20So the gloves are going to come off, the real intentions are
- 33:23gonna be exposed, the real incentives are gonna be exposed.
- 33:27But I think we're gonna win at the end because Bitcoin is
- 33:30better incentives. It's really as simple as that.
- 33:32And no one is better than their incentives anyways.
- 33:34Guys, there's 2600 of you guys watching live between YouTube
- 33:38and X, and another 100 of you guys watching live on Rumble.
- 33:42If you guys are enjoying the show so far, make sure to smash
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- 34:00right now. And also, if you guys think that
- 34:04this is a big loss for nation state Bitcoin adoption, drop A1
- 34:10in the chat. If you think that Bitcoin
- 34:12doesn't need nation state adoption, Bitcoin is a bottom up
- 34:15grass roots revolution, drop A2 in the chat.
- 34:19I want to hear your guys's thoughts.
- 34:21I think like I said, Bitcoin's going to win despite any of
- 34:25this. They can really only stop the
- 34:30top down implementations of Bitcoin.
- 34:34They can't stop the bottom up, you know, grass roots
- 34:39implementation of Bitcoin, the adoption of Bitcoin better said
- 34:42they can't stop it. It's unstoppable, right?
- 34:45But they definitely can put pressure on governments.
- 34:47They can put pressure on centralized entities, right?
- 34:51Anyways, guys, let us know. Drop A1 or drop A2 in the chat.
- 34:55We're going to hit the numbers. We have so much to talk about on
- 34:58today's show. An awesome clip of the Chad
- 35:01Sailor essentially talking about why Bitcoin is this massive,
- 35:05massive paradigm shift. We're going to be talking about
- 35:08that. And also on the European front,
- 35:11again, the attack on end to end encryption, they're going after
- 35:16it like crazy in the United Kingdom, in Europe as well,
- 35:20governments are putting pressure on tech companies to basically
- 35:23say no, you can't encrypt anything.
- 35:25We need a back door. We need a back door to all of
- 35:28this stuff, this and guys, this is insanity, this is crazy, this
- 35:33is guilt. This is you're guilty before
- 35:37you're guilty and you have to prove your innocence
- 35:39essentially. So we're going to be covering
- 35:41all of this stuff during today's show.
- 35:43It's going to be absolutely amazing.
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- 39:23Bitcoin price is $85,850, block height 886,309.
- 39:29So that's per dollar. 1165 market cap 1.7 trillion Bitcoin
- 39:34verse gold market cap 8.27 to 6% percentage issued 94.43% decline
- 39:42from all time high -21.4%. Realize monetary inflation guys.
- 39:48This is the central issue. This is the reason that they
- 39:53cannot allow a Bitcoin beachhead.
- 39:57They cannot allow a Bitcoin to be a legal tender currency.
- 40:05They cannot allow that under any circumstances because it is
- 40:11literally better money. The realized monetary inflation
- 40:14rate right now of Bitcoin is .96%.
- 40:18Fiat currencies goal is to get to 2%.
- 40:24It's at roughly 3% here in the United States.
- 40:27Bitcoin is literally going to go down forever that realized
- 40:30monetary inflation until it gets to 0.
- 40:34So This is why This is why this is happening.
- 40:37I mean, if you guys have been tuning into simply Bitcoin, none
- 40:39of this should have should come as a surprise to you.
- 40:42ANYWAYS, breaking news, Michael Saylor will be attending the
- 40:47White House crypto summit that is going to be happening at the
- 40:52White House on on on Friday. It's going to be absolutely
- 40:56historic, a historic moment for before the entire industry and
- 41:03he will be attending. It was just confirmed breaking
- 41:05news. Anyways, here is a here's a clip
- 41:11of him being interviewed by one of my good friends.
- 41:15Amazing journalist and content creator and podcaster Efrat.
- 41:19Big fan of hers. Go check out her her ex account
- 41:22and this is an interview that she had with Sailor at BTC
- 41:27Prague and Sailor talks about why Bitcoin is a pivotal shift.
- 41:31Let's check it out and then we'll talk about it.
- 41:34Bitcoin's a paradigm shift. It's the world's first perfect
- 41:38money. It's digital capital.
- 41:41It's the digital transformation of everything.
- 41:44That's capital asset. It's energy flowing into
- 41:49cyberspace. These are all profound,
- 41:53complicated, scary topics. It it converts all the economics
- 41:58you learned from an art to a science.
- 42:01Everything you learn, you have to unlearn.
- 42:03All of your monetary theory, you know all of your bromides.
- 42:08You know I have to have a diversified portfolio.
- 42:10Well, no, you don't. Diversification is selling the
- 42:14winner to buy the losers. But that's not what I've been
- 42:17taught for 30 years. Everything you're talking about
- 42:20is the opposite of everything I've been taught.
- 42:22You know every rich old person that I know, every rich old
- 42:27powerful person says that it's a scam.
- 42:31Well, every rich old powerful person doesn't need it.
- 42:33They're rich and they're old. What?
- 42:37There's nothing left for them in life to do.
- 42:40The people that need it are the 20 somethings, you know,
- 42:43starting their career. It's like, I don't have any
- 42:46money, I don't have any power, I don't have any respect.
- 42:50How am I going to get ahead? So what you have is this new
- 42:55thing. It's moving faster than the
- 42:57speed of sound. It's creating a shockwave.
- 42:59It's going through the economy. It's creating a lot of noise, a
- 43:04lot of sound, a lot of fury. It's scary.
- 43:09The human conventional reaction to any of that is to push back,
- 43:14right? Human nature is to fear that
- 43:18that we don't understand and to react with anger or irritation.
- 43:24Why are you pitching this? What is this scam?
- 43:27Why are you bothering with? I don't want to talk about this,
- 43:30right. So that being the case, you're
- 43:34selling a new idea, a new ideology, a new protocol, a new
- 43:38philosophy of economics, a new philosophy of money.
- 43:42You're selling a new idea of money to people that have never
- 43:45in their life thought about what money is.
- 43:48And you're, you're, you're questioning fundamental
- 43:51premises. And they're successful and
- 43:54they're comfortable and they're probably wealthier than you.
- 43:59So the natural reaction of of them is to treat you skeptically
- 44:06or rudely or reject you. And I think the right response
- 44:13is to think like a salesperson. The customer is always right.
- 44:19You're selling them a new product.
- 44:21This is a new product. It's better than the old
- 44:24product. It's an electric car.
- 44:26It's an electric refrigerator. It's electric hair dryer.
- 44:30It's a mobile phone. It's a new jet.
- 44:34It's a new kind of something. The customer's never seen it
- 44:39before. The customer's afraid of it.
- 44:41The customer doesn't get it. The customer tells you to get
- 44:44lost. The right response is, Well,
- 44:48Sir, I can understand why you would say this, but you know
- 44:51that your wife might like it. I can see why you'd say this,
- 44:54but you know it'll make your company rich.
- 44:56I can see why you would say this, but you know it'll help
- 44:58you win the election. I can see why you don't
- 45:01understand it, but if you spend a bit more time, you'd realize
- 45:04it'll make your bank successful. I, you know, well, I guess, I
- 45:09guess you don't understand it, but if your circumstance
- 45:12changes, we're here is a solution.
- 45:14Call me, right? The customer is right.
- 45:18Keep the door open. Be polite.
- 45:21They hate you, or they're rude, or they're rejecting you because
- 45:26they don't understand or they're afraid.
- 45:32So I do take it extremely personally.
- 45:35And yeah, I think what the, the the IMF did was extremely
- 45:42personal. But but in every other regard,
- 45:46what Sailor was saying about being a salesperson, don't ask
- 45:50what Bitcoin could do for you, ask what you could do for
- 45:53Bitcoin, right? So you know, your family, your
- 45:56friends, your community, right, Everyone gets distracted by the
- 46:01whole left and right, red versus blue thing.
- 46:04It's that's not really what's happening.
- 46:06What's happening? The battle hand that's been
- 46:09happening in the background is and now it's official.
- 46:16Now then we took a Big L, the Big L and, and I'm but Kelly has
- 46:20a decision to make and and Stacy and Max and my prayers and
- 46:24thoughts are with them. And I'm, I'm very curious to see
- 46:27where, what they do next. Because El Salvador definitely,
- 46:31I mean, the IMF really they made, they made their thoughts
- 46:34known. But the, the question is, you
- 46:41know, it, the, the battle at hand again is, is not red versus
- 46:45blue. The battle at hand is green
- 46:47versus orange, Bitcoin versus slavery, Bitcoin verse Fiat.
- 46:54That's really what's going on. Are you on the side of Bitcoin
- 46:57or are you on the side of Fiat? There is no in between or there
- 47:00is none. They cannot.
- 47:02A coercive system cannot coexist with an incentive based system.
- 47:08The coercive system can't have. You can't have an alternative
- 47:14next to it because people are just going to just choose the
- 47:16alternative. It it's like human nature.
- 47:19And if you guys want like a like a a small example of this is
- 47:24what was happening in in Nigeria.
- 47:27So Nigeria was one of the first country countries that rolled
- 47:32out a central bank digital currency.
- 47:35It was called the enaira extremely low adoption.
- 47:39It was a failure. It didn't work out, didn't work
- 47:42out. And instead of the Nigerian
- 47:45government basically saying like, Hey, you know what, like
- 47:48we should self reflect and like, you know, like, maybe maybe we
- 47:53should stop, we should stop printing money and create a, an
- 47:56incentive for people to use our money.
- 47:59No, you know, they did. They jailed one of the finance
- 48:02executives in the country and they blamed him for, you know,
- 48:07the currency falling apart. Like this is what this is what
- 48:10they did. So that's a foreshadowing of
- 48:14what's going to happen worldwide, right?
- 48:17And in Europe, it's the most intense, right?
- 48:20When you have European central bankers basically using words
- 48:24like sovereignty, we, we must retain the sovereignty of Europe
- 48:28by releasing a central bank digital currency.
- 48:30Like like the no, no, no, we must retain the sovereignty of
- 48:34politicians in Europe by releasing a central bank digital
- 48:37currency. Let's be clear.
- 48:39That's what they actually mean, but not the sovereignty of
- 48:42individuals, right? So this is what's happening
- 48:45right now. The Internet essentially has
- 48:48enabled a revolution of a revolt of the great awakening of the
- 48:54individual to truly reach financial sovereignty, truly
- 49:00become a sovereign individual. And that's really what's
- 49:04happening. That's this is the phenomenon
- 49:06that's happening worldwide. Then you have to ask yourself,
- 49:09you have to ask yourself, what team are you on and what are you
- 49:13doing every single day to get more people on your side of the
- 49:16football on more your side of Team Orange?
- 49:19All right. Anyways, Rajat, what's your take
- 49:21on this, brother? I think Sailor has been an
- 49:24incredible salesman for Bitcoin. His way of articulating things,
- 49:28his way of explaining things, where we are in history.
- 49:31What are your thoughts? I, I think people are just going
- 49:34to have to, to go through the education, right.
- 49:37If you don't understand what Bitcoin is, you're not going to,
- 49:40you're not going to get why this really, at the end of the day,
- 49:44this doesn't matter, right? Over time, the, the people who
- 49:48have Bitcoin, they're going to, they're going to run out.
- 49:50And if you, if you're either here, if you're either in
- 49:54Bitcoin today versus 4 years from now versus 8 years, 10
- 49:57years, 12 years, 15 years from now, the amount of Bitcoin that
- 50:01you're going to be able to buy with the same amount of dollars
- 50:05is going to decrease and decrease.
- 50:07The goal here is to keep you using dollars to keep you
- 50:10storing your value in dollars for as long as possible.
- 50:13Because as soon as you start giving away your dollars and
- 50:15soon as you want to not hold dollars, the value of the dollar
- 50:18falls. And that's what's leading to the
- 50:22price of Bitcoin just completely running away from most people.
- 50:27Most people won't be able to afford a million SAT's.
- 50:28And again, this is just it's a speed bump.
- 50:32Growth is never linear. You're never going to see
- 50:36everybody rooting for the same end goal.
- 50:39If there is information asymmetry, then you're taking
- 50:43advantage of like if we think about it or is it's a way to
- 50:48keep people working. It's a way to keep people
- 50:51working for at least 40 years of their lives.
- 50:53Let's say when you get a mortgage, you're going to get a
- 50:55mortgage. You're going to be paying for
- 50:57your mortgage for the next 30 years.
- 50:59I gave you money that I printed out of nothing.
- 51:02And it's earning interest on that money that the goal here is
- 51:05to keep you working, to keep you earning debt, to keep you
- 51:08increasing the GDP, to ink you to, to keep you earning taxes
- 51:12for the government. At the end of the day, it's it's
- 51:17all just a way to keep us as slaves.
- 51:19And Bitcoin's the only way out if the US dollar dies.
- 51:24How else do they control us? How else do they keep us working
- 51:27forever? How else do they keep us from
- 51:29spending time with our family and friends?
- 51:31How else do they keep us depressed relying on them?
- 51:34How else do they make it so that you're everybody else?
- 51:38Like, think about how much crime is happening right now.
- 51:41Why is that crime happening? It's because people are becoming
- 51:43degenerates. People are doing things because
- 51:45they can't afford their day-to-day life.
- 51:48And I mean, governments are a part of that.
- 51:50They want crime. They want instability because
- 51:53instability leads to people relying on them, gives them more
- 51:56power, gives them more ways to control us and keep us just
- 52:00following whatever, whatever plans they want us to follow it.
- 52:04It's just, it's, it's all a game.
- 52:06We're not part of it. We're, we're, we're the pawns.
- 52:09But at the end of the day, what Bitcoin does is it basically
- 52:12destroys that foundation that that they've built.
- 52:14So they've spent how many, how long have they spent teaching us
- 52:17that pieces of paper are money? Now Bitcoin is completely
- 52:21destroying that assumption. People are learning that that's
- 52:26not true. They're learning that money
- 52:27that's printed out of nothing is worthless.
- 52:30It's not worth anything at all. And they're getting rid of their
- 52:34pieces of paper. They're accumulating as much
- 52:36Bitcoin as possible. It's it's this is going to
- 52:40change everything. And when you truly understand
- 52:44how Bitcoin works, you start realizing that this is, this is
- 52:50going to be irrelevant 2030 years from now.
- 52:52We're going to be thinking, who cares?
- 52:53El Salvador has 8000 Bitcoin. How did they accumulate so much?
- 52:57That's the only thing that's going to matter.
- 52:59I think they, they were ahead of the, the, the gun on this race.
- 53:02They they accumulated Bitcoin when they could.
- 53:06Eventually everybody's not going to be able to accumulate
- 53:08Bitcoin. They're going to stop people
- 53:10from buying Bitcoin through exchanges.
- 53:11The only way to accumulate Bitcoin will be peer-to-peer.
- 53:14Who knows, El Salvador will will, will probably continue
- 53:16accumulating Bitcoin. They can also sell goods and
- 53:19services for Bitcoin. So if they start doing trade,
- 53:21maybe this is an incentive for them to start trading for
- 53:24Bitcoin and for receiving Bitcoin in exchange for goods
- 53:27and services. And they can easily give
- 53:29discounts to other countries for paying in Bitcoin.
- 53:32That's just their incentive to start global trade and to push
- 53:36Bitcoin adoption even further. I think there's always a
- 53:39positive side to things. Everything is good for Bitcoin.
- 53:41I I genuinely don't think that we're going to be talking about
- 53:45this in a year, 2 years, five years.
- 53:49Amen, Amen. Beautifully, beautifully said.
- 53:51All right, Opti, we are running a little bit, a little bit late
- 53:53today, so we're going to skip. You want to.
- 53:55You want to hit it, really. Really quick because there's two
- 53:57things sailors said that I've been saying for a long time.
- 54:01Well, the first one is when he was talking, it reminded me of
- 54:04that Fiat Times article about the PhD economist being like, if
- 54:09Bitcoin's working, maybe we have to you reevaluate monetary
- 54:12theory. And it's like, yeah, that's
- 54:14exactly what's going on for everyone.
- 54:16All of us young people get it. Everyone that's probably over 50
- 54:20and fully entrenched in the Fiat system is like this shouldn't be
- 54:23working and they're having a hard time wrap their heads
- 54:25around it. And the second point is I've
- 54:28been saying this same message on this show for at least in over a
- 54:33year that we need to tailor our Bitcoin pitch to the person
- 54:37we're talking about. You know, I know we like to do
- 54:41this verbal diarrhea. And you just go out and you
- 54:43start start ranting about Bitcoin and the person's eyes
- 54:47start glazing over and it's like, no, Taylor, your message
- 54:50to the person you're talking about, find their pain points.
- 54:53And this is how you sell Bitcoin better.
- 54:55And of course, Taylor said that in a way that is is, you know,
- 54:59much more complicated, but it's a very simple message.
- 55:01I've literally been saying this on the show for over a year now.
- 55:04That's like you don't use the same pitch on every person.
- 55:07You got to figure out what their pain points are.
- 55:09And this is how we sell Bitcoin better.
- 55:10We are literally Bitcoin's marketing team.
- 55:12This is why I wear the hat, you know, Bitcoin propaganda
- 55:15department all the time. We are Bitcoin propagandists
- 55:17after all, every single one one of us.
- 55:19You need to send and tailor that message to the person in a
- 55:22specific way so that they can understand the value proposition
- 55:26of Bitcoin. It's like a super simple, simple
- 55:28idea that I think a lot of us Bitcoiners forget.
- 55:31Absolutely guys, if you've. Orange peeled someone drop A1 in
- 55:34the chat. If you still haven't orange
- 55:36peeled someone drop A2 in the chat let us know guys, we're
- 55:40going to hit the news segment. We're going to be talking about
- 55:43the war on end to end encryption.
- 55:45It's in Europe. It's it's in the Uki think of
- 55:49it's going to come to the United States.
- 55:51Look, guys, you have to understand something.
- 55:54The state, as long as they have a money printer, is unfixable.
- 55:59And they're going to become more and more and more coercive
- 56:04because it's a system based on theft.
- 56:06It's a it's, it's fundamentally flawed.
- 56:08It's a flawed system and they it, it's not that, you know,
- 56:12these guys are twirling their mustaches and saying like, ha,
- 56:16ha, let's, let's, let's, let's enslave everybody.
- 56:20It has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the fact that
- 56:23the system based on theft. And then because it's a system
- 56:25based on theft, they have to coerce people into using that
- 56:28said system, right. So anyways, guys, we're going to
- 56:31hit the new segment. We're going to be right back.
- 56:33We have so much to cover today, guys, So stay tuned.
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- 59:15If you're you guys are listening to simply Bitcoin live with your
- 59:18host, Nico Mighty, legendary Co host, always optimistic optimist
- 59:22fields and our special guest for today, Rajat.
- 59:25We're going to talk to Rajat today about his YouTube channel,
- 59:27all the amazing work he's been doing during the culture
- 59:30segments. You guys definitely want to stay
- 59:31tuned for that. But first, let's talk about
- 59:34today's news. So this is an article back from
- 59:37February. Apple pulls E2 EEI cloud
- 59:41encryption in UK boots 135,000 Non compliant apps from EU App
- 59:48Store Apple I cloud backups can no longer be end to end
- 59:52encrypted in the UK while all apps without a verified trader
- 59:56status and contact information have been removed from the EU
- 1:00:01App Store to comply with the EU Digital Services Act.
- 1:00:06Has removed it's advanced data protection tool for new
- 1:00:09customers in the UK after the government demanded backdoor
- 1:00:14access to encrypted user data. ADP is an opt in feature used
- 1:00:19for protecting sensitive user data such as iCloud files,
- 1:00:24photos, notes and other stuff. Quote Apple can no longer offer
- 1:00:28advanced data protection in the United Kingdom to new users or
- 1:00:32current UK users will eventually need to disable this security
- 1:00:36feature. Apple exposed expressed grave
- 1:00:39disappointment over this decision, stating it will make
- 1:00:42UK users more vulnerable to data breachers, data breaches and
- 1:00:46other security threats. Meanwhile in the EU, Apple
- 1:00:49removed 135,000 non compliant apps.
- 1:00:53This is, this is interesting. How long?
- 1:00:57Remember in the EU right now, there's a law with the Mika laws
- 1:01:01that if you are, it's illegal to send Bitcoin peer-to-peer if
- 1:01:07it's more than €1000, or at least illegal for if you're
- 1:01:12withdrawing from an exchange and you're sending, say you want to
- 1:01:17send it to somebody, it's illegal to send more than €1000.
- 1:01:23And essentially, if you're in the, if you're in the EU, you
- 1:01:27have to prove ownership of the wallet you're sending it to.
- 1:01:32How long until they say, listen, even with these laws, it's, it's
- 1:01:38very difficult to implement. So the only way we're going to
- 1:01:41allow people to hold Bitcoin is with a compliant app.
- 1:01:46So the Bitcoin wallet that you download has KYC, you know, all
- 1:01:51that stuff like the KY, the, the Bitcoin wallet that you download
- 1:01:54has KYC has all the stuff implemented into it.
- 1:01:58How long until that happens? I mean, guys, look at what
- 1:02:01happened. Remember where we are in history
- 1:02:03right now. Like, yeah, you guys have to
- 1:02:04remember where we are in the movie.
- 1:02:06Look at what the IMF just did to El Salvador.
- 1:02:08They they don't care. They don't care.
- 1:02:12This is the separation of money, you say.
- 1:02:14You guys have to understand what?
- 1:02:17Look, guys, this is for all the marbles.
- 1:02:19This is the final battle. This is like, this is such a
- 1:02:24pivotal moment in human history. I don't think you guys
- 1:02:27understand what what's happening here, right?
- 1:02:30This is why we cover this type of news because it's really
- 1:02:33important to be informed, right? Information is power.
- 1:02:36This is how you educate the person to your left, the person
- 1:02:40to your right. You take agency, you take
- 1:02:42action, you get involved. We got so much optic.
- 1:02:45Can you make me full screen? We got so much shit.
- 1:02:50I'm just going to say it for going out and saying Trump 2024,
- 1:02:54RFK 2024, we got so much crap. They're like, Nico, Trump's a
- 1:02:59shit corner. He's into crypto.
- 1:03:00That's true. Trump's a crypto president.
- 1:03:02He's not a Bitcoin only president.
- 1:03:05But we get so much crap. It's like, why are you guys
- 1:03:07getting political? Why are you getting whatever?
- 1:03:10Bitcoin inherently is political. This is what you guys have to
- 1:03:12understand, and politics is a very messy process.
- 1:03:17It's not. It's not just you're going to
- 1:03:20get everything you want. It's concessions, but I'm going
- 1:03:23to take victories while we can get them.
- 1:03:26And the fact that we are now in the room in DC was a huge
- 1:03:31victory. You want to know why this isn't
- 1:03:33happening in the United States? What's because of the election
- 1:03:36that happened November? We got Ross freed.
- 1:03:39You guys have to understand that we repealed SAB 121, we ended
- 1:03:44Operation Choke .2 Point O because you guys took action,
- 1:03:47because you guys took agency. And our movement was so
- 1:03:50influential that Donald Trump had no choice but to turn to the
- 1:03:55Bitcoin community and say, hey guys, I need your vote.
- 1:04:00Like this is just going to accelerate from here.
- 1:04:03This is not going to stop and this is what you guys have to
- 1:04:05understand. So what world do you want to
- 1:04:09live in in the future? What world do you want your
- 1:04:11children to live in? Because this is the this is the
- 1:04:13alternative. When I say Bitcoin or slavery,
- 1:04:16that's slavery. I'm pointing it out to you.
- 1:04:19A world where the government you can't have anything to end to
- 1:04:22end encrypt the the government has full access to everything
- 1:04:26you're saying and reading. No privacy at all 0 like that's
- 1:04:31insanity. And remember these are the same
- 1:04:33people like the the the example with doge is hilarious because
- 1:04:37it's always projection right? Like they tried to pass a law
- 1:04:41with the infrastructure act that would essentially require that
- 1:04:44every $600.00 transaction had to be reported.
- 1:04:48Then Doge goes in there and discovers vast amount of fraud
- 1:04:53to the tune of billions of dollars.
- 1:04:57So they expect the peasants, the plebs, to go along with the
- 1:05:03$600.00 reporting requirement. But then when you audit them,
- 1:05:09they cry and they say no, this is a threat to democracy.
- 1:05:12No, they're projecting. It's all projection.
- 1:05:17Anyways, moving on to the next article.
- 1:05:19Thank you, Opti. I appreciate it.
- 1:05:22This is today's news. European states continue their
- 1:05:26race for encryption backdoors. European policy makers continue
- 1:05:31to push forward various proposals and regulations that
- 1:05:35would severely compromise the privacy and security of European
- 1:05:38citizens. In France, a proposed Narco
- 1:05:41traffic law amendment would require encrypted communication
- 1:05:44services to create backdoors for law enforcement access within 72
- 1:05:48hours. Non compliance could lead to
- 1:05:50fines of 1.5 million for individuals and 2% of global
- 1:05:55turnover for companies. The amendment has already passed
- 1:05:58the seminit and is moving to the National Assembly.
- 1:06:01Weakening encryption laws for law enforcement inevitably
- 1:06:04creates vulnerabilities that can that can and will be exploited
- 1:06:08by cyber criminals and hostile foreign actors.
- 1:06:11The law would not just target criminals, it would destroy
- 1:06:14security for everyone. I don't think they care.
- 1:06:17This is this is what like it, it's with the same thing with
- 1:06:20the IMF. Like it, it doesn't matter that
- 1:06:23you're essentially, you know, the IMF is going in there and
- 1:06:27potentially hurting Salvadorian citizens and potentially, you
- 1:06:33know, stopping the ability for their country to get ahead
- 1:06:37because they're building this giant Bitcoin reserve.
- 1:06:40It doesn't matter for the IMF. What matters is that they keep
- 1:06:44control. This is they don't care about
- 1:06:46any of this. It just it's about control.
- 1:06:50Like after the last 10 years, guys, with the pandemic, with
- 1:06:55this recent election, the first pro crypto and Bitcoin candidate
- 1:07:00almost assassinated twice. Like, you know, an interesting
- 1:07:06election in 2020, just to put it nicely, like come on now, like
- 1:07:12no, now, without a shadow of a doubt, like we know that the
- 1:07:15that legacy media like it it it come on it.
- 1:07:20It doesn't really feel like news organizations.
- 1:07:23It's like Pravda 2 point O, except it's in the US, right?
- 1:07:26Yeah, this is ridiculous guys. Look, when we say Bitcoin or
- 1:07:29slavery, this is the alternative.
- 1:07:31This is the alternative world. This is the Fiat based world.
- 1:07:35This is the world that you choose.
- 1:07:37If you you want to live in a Fiat based world, this is what
- 1:07:39you're going to get. It's time to put the power back
- 1:07:43in the hands of the people and that is absolutely impossible.
- 1:07:48As long as governments have the ability to create money for free
- 1:07:51that the rest of us peasants have to work for with Bitcoin
- 1:07:56levels the playing field. And look at how terrified they
- 1:08:01are. Look at what happened with the
- 1:08:03IMF and El Salvador. Anyways, I'm going to pass it on
- 1:08:05to Rajat. Rajat, what are your thoughts on
- 1:08:07this? Man?
- 1:08:08Not surprising at all. But I think it's incredibly
- 1:08:11important to cover this type of stuff because, yeah, I mean,
- 1:08:16like, look at the look at the night and day difference.
- 1:08:19Like, look at the night and day difference.
- 1:08:20Look at the the path Europe is heading and look at the path the
- 1:08:24United States is heading because of this recent election, right?
- 1:08:27And this is where we are in Bitcoin's, Bitcoin's history,
- 1:08:30guys. Like Bitcoin is coming out of
- 1:08:32the shadows and it's entering into the global stage, right?
- 1:08:36So you have to ask yourself, are you going to step up?
- 1:08:39Are you gonna step up and do what's right?
- 1:08:41Take agency and action? Rajat, what are your thoughts?
- 1:08:45It just compounds over time. It's gonna continue to get worse
- 1:08:48in certain countries. It's going to continue to get
- 1:08:50better in other countries. I, I don't think there's any way
- 1:08:52to, to stop this. The only way to see where, where
- 1:08:56to, to, the only way to really guide this is to make sure that,
- 1:09:00I mean, your government makes the right decisions.
- 1:09:03You can't stop them from trying to control you.
- 1:09:06I, I think, I think Bitcoin just starves them of their power.
- 1:09:09With the way that things are going right now, they can spend
- 1:09:12power, they can spend money however they want to.
- 1:09:15And with Bitcoin, they can't, they can't print money, they
- 1:09:19can't just borrow unlimited money.
- 1:09:20It changes everything. The, the entire dynamic of power
- 1:09:25structures is, is going to change.
- 1:09:28We're, we're going to see things either get worse for certain
- 1:09:34areas of the world, let's say Europe, things are going to keep
- 1:09:37getting worse, keep getting worse.
- 1:09:38They're going to be more and more restrictions and, and like
- 1:09:43I said, it's going to build and build and build until it's
- 1:09:46unbearable. I, I, I, I think people are
- 1:09:49going to, to, to riot there. There's going to be a lot of
- 1:09:53pushback from people as soon as they start seeing how how
- 1:09:56negatively this they they this impacts their lives and how much
- 1:09:59freedom they're losing. 100 percent, 100%, again, like
- 1:10:03history has shown. Rajat yeah, I think you out of
- 1:10:05all people appreciate this, right?
- 1:10:07The best way to organize a society and a non coercive way
- 1:10:11is via free markets. It's via liberty.
- 1:10:13It's it allows entrepreneurs to build businesses and that
- 1:10:18historically that has shown to be the only way for a society to
- 1:10:22really prosper, right. We've gone down the totalitarian
- 1:10:26route many times, many times throughout, you know, the last
- 1:10:30century and change. And every single time it ends
- 1:10:34the same poverty, despair, a Fort like, you know, a tyranny
- 1:10:40censorship. So yeah, it it's time to try
- 1:10:44something new. It's and I think Bitcoin is, is
- 1:10:46going to allow a new form of government.
- 1:10:48I saw a lot of people in the chat, you know, saying Nico's an
- 1:10:52anarchist or whatever. No, no, I think government is
- 1:10:54necessary. I think the state is necessary
- 1:10:57because if not, it would be chaos.
- 1:10:58But a much smaller opti smiling, but a much smaller version, you
- 1:11:04know, small, much smaller government.
- 1:11:05I I don't think you can have small government government to
- 1:11:09its utility value unless you get rid of the money printer.
- 1:11:13Also the rumble chat guys. You just love to beat me up
- 1:11:15every single day. Nico's this Nico's that
- 1:11:18appreciate it. Please smash the like button at
- 1:11:20least and thank you for the engagement Opti.
- 1:11:23What are your? What are your thoughts on this
- 1:11:25brother? I mean, Europe is going down the
- 1:11:28Europe's going down the the the path, man.
- 1:11:31It's Nico this, Nico that. Every day bro, every day I get
- 1:11:38roasted. I'm getting.
- 1:11:38Roasted today too on the YouTube chat.
- 1:11:40So hey, it's part of the game, part of the game.
- 1:11:43But yeah, look, my thoughts on this is one Europe is so
- 1:11:46absolutely wrecked. I would not want to live in
- 1:11:50Europe. It's it's going downhill very
- 1:11:53quickly. And then two, as an American,
- 1:11:55I'm glad that I don't have to listen to European since 1776.
- 1:11:59So like nothing they say means anything to me anymore when
- 1:12:02they're whole, you know, that whole side of the other side of
- 1:12:06the Atlantic is just getting absolutely wrecked.
- 1:12:08But you really start to understand what's going on when
- 1:12:11you realize that, like Europeans are extremely poor right now.
- 1:12:14I'm not moving to Europe, never will never have.
- 1:12:19But like I, like I'm saying once, once you really understand
- 1:12:21kind of the economics of what's going on in Europe, they're
- 1:12:24they're all, they're all wrecked right now.
- 1:12:25They're they can't use electricity, they can't use
- 1:12:27energy. And as the, the society starts
- 1:12:31to crumble, of course, the politicians and people in power
- 1:12:34are trying to scramble for more and more control.
- 1:12:37And this is what we're seeing play out right now.
- 1:12:39And it's obviously absolutely horrendous and it's horrible.
- 1:12:44It's disgusting. Like what's going on in Europe
- 1:12:46is absolute trash. The collectivists are in
- 1:12:48control. It's absolutely wrecked.
- 1:12:50I do. I'm so glad I'm not European.
- 1:12:52I'm so glad we don't have to listen to Europeans.
- 1:12:54I I love my European descent. No, I I love, I love Europeans,
- 1:12:58man. I I just think, dude, I'm
- 1:12:59European. I am, I'm I'm, I'm European like
- 1:13:02from descent. I I like, I'm proud of
- 1:13:04MyHeritage, but bro, the society's.
- 1:13:07Right. I love Europeans.
- 1:13:09I just think that certain political choices that are being
- 1:13:12made in Europe, no. No, no, America is the best.
- 1:13:16They'll follow our lead, bro. I, I think that it's, Brussels
- 1:13:24has too much power. I would say that Brussels in the
- 1:13:26form of government has too much power.
- 1:13:28I love Europe. I have friends in Europe.
- 1:13:30I think it's beautiful. I also love the United States.
- 1:13:33But yeah, I mean, I, I don't like where they're where they're
- 1:13:36heading politically that just, you know, it's I, I think
- 1:13:40freedom always wins rather than tyranny.
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- 1:17:31Nico Opti and our special guest today, Rajat.
- 1:17:34We're going to talk about all things Rajat right now during
- 1:17:36the culture segment, Opti. Yes, Sir.
- 1:17:39Thank you. So Rajat, you came on the show,
- 1:17:42I forget now what episode. I think it was maybe a close to
- 1:17:47a year ago. It was a long time ago.
- 1:17:48No, it was way longer than that. Yeah, it was a long.
- 1:17:50Time at least a year ago and the first thing that you wanted to
- 1:17:54talk about today was just how far you've come on your Bitcoin
- 1:17:59journey. So maybe let's start with what
- 1:18:02was your initial thinking on Bitcoin when you came on the
- 1:18:05show and how has it developed? And then we'll talk about some
- 1:18:07other things. So I started thinking of Bitcoin
- 1:18:11as just another asset. It doesn't compete with anything
- 1:18:15else. It's part of a diversified
- 1:18:17portfolio. You should own everything.
- 1:18:19Now I see it as the complete opposite.
- 1:18:22So you should own nothing but Bitcoin.
- 1:18:28Everything else is just a a consumption item.
- 1:18:30Let's say for example, houses, people are going to buy as many
- 1:18:33houses as they can, but the price of housing is going to
- 1:18:36trend to 0 in terms of Bitcoin forever.
- 1:18:39And you can't stop that from happening.
- 1:18:41It's going to happen forever. You're going to see houses drop
- 1:18:43from 4 Bitcoin to three Bitcoin to two Bitcoin.
- 1:18:47It's going to keep falling. I think a house is going to cost
- 1:18:50something like 10:15 million Satoshi's, maybe even less than
- 1:18:53that over time. I mean that that it's just, it's
- 1:18:58just how it how it works. Nothing else is as finite as
- 1:19:02Bitcoin. Everything else is basically
- 1:19:05just AI mean. I don't know, I would say
- 1:19:08everything else is pretty much just like a way to just stop
- 1:19:13people from buying Bitcoin, right?
- 1:19:16If if you own rental properties, then it's.
- 1:19:19Your rental property is a placeholder for whenever you buy
- 1:19:22Bitcoin that. I.
- 1:19:25I've completely changed. Before I used to think, OK, you
- 1:19:28buy Bitcoin because you want to diversify your portfolio, you
- 1:19:31want to get higher returns. But no, that you don't buy
- 1:19:34Bitcoin for the returns. Bitcoin is money.
- 1:19:36You're, you're just replacing everything else.
- 1:19:38You're replacing everything else that has monetary value to you
- 1:19:40with Bitcoin. And I didn't think of it that
- 1:19:42way. I didn't see it that way because
- 1:19:43I didn't quite understand it. Bro, holy cow.
- 1:19:48I mean, this is, this is, this is wow, wow.
- 1:19:54Actually I have a question. I this is great.
- 1:19:56No, bro, I, I remember the show that Rajat came on.
- 1:20:00Man, this is this is gnarly. I can't.
- 1:20:02OK, hold on, Rajat. Could you tell everybody, could
- 1:20:05you tell everybody your background?
- 1:20:07Because yeah, you have, you have a very, you have a very
- 1:20:09impressive background. Like and, and I want to tack on
- 1:20:11and one more question. Tell people your background, but
- 1:20:14also, do you think that that was a factor of you having to
- 1:20:16unlearn a lot of things to get to where you are today?
- 1:20:20Yeah, So I had my CFA. It took me what, 3 years to
- 1:20:24study for the CFAI, Failed it a couple of times.
- 1:20:27I thought the CFA was difficult. And then I started learning
- 1:20:29about Bitcoin and I learned so many things that I had never
- 1:20:33even considered. I, I think that's what Bitcoin
- 1:20:36does. It just opens so many doors.
- 1:20:38It makes so many people think of the world completely
- 1:20:40differently. And I, I, I was exactly like
- 1:20:42that. You don't know what you don't
- 1:20:43know until you finally figure it out, right?
- 1:20:46I used to think rental properties are great.
- 1:20:48I used to think stocks are great.
- 1:20:49I have that CFA background, so I was constantly surrounded by
- 1:20:52yield, constantly surrounded by dividends, people just buying
- 1:20:56random stocks that they have no idea what those companies do.
- 1:20:59It was, it was really scary when you, when you think about it,
- 1:21:03the entire system is just designed to get people stuck in
- 1:21:07a system where all of their wealth is tracked and, and
- 1:21:10Bitcoin changes that. It was really difficult to, to
- 1:21:12wrap my head around that. I, when I, when I hear people
- 1:21:15like Peter Schiff saying that Bitcoin is a scam, I mean, I
- 1:21:20feel bad for him to be honest, because he doesn't understand
- 1:21:23it. He hasn't put in the time.
- 1:21:24I was exactly like that. I mean, your show, like I said,
- 1:21:27has contributed to my knowledge so much.
- 1:21:30It's given me, It's made me think more about where the world
- 1:21:34is going. I mean, at the, at this point, I
- 1:21:37think of, I think of real estate as almost exploitation.
- 1:21:41If you're buying real estate as an investment, you're exploiting
- 1:21:44the people around you, right? Because you need a way to store
- 1:21:48your wealth and governments want you to exploit other people.
- 1:21:52It's divide and conquer, right? We have a system where you have
- 1:21:56tenants and you have landlords. The tenants try to take
- 1:21:59advantage of the, I'm sorry, the, the landlords try to take
- 1:22:02advantage of the tenants and tenants have to do whatever they
- 1:22:05can to survive. The landlords are able to buy
- 1:22:08houses with money that's created out of nothing.
- 1:22:11And those tenants have to work to earn a place to live in.
- 1:22:16Eventually they're paying their time to their landlord And, and
- 1:22:20the system is designed to keep that going.
- 1:22:22It's just a, like I said before, it's a way to keep us working if
- 1:22:25you can't afford a house. And, and that's generally
- 1:22:28millennials, Gen. Z, you're going to be a victim
- 1:22:32of the system. If you don't switch over to
- 1:22:34Bitcoin, you're here, you're going to be a victim of slavery.
- 1:22:37And, and it took me a really long time to figure that out.
- 1:22:40I, I didn't figure that out until I think it may have been
- 1:22:46August of 2023. I, I made a post to then where I
- 1:22:50said I sold all my stocks for Bitcoin.
- 1:22:52That was when I really got it. Before that, I was I, I think I
- 1:22:55was, I would say, I would say I was confused.
- 1:22:58Dude, this isn't this is, I mean, what you're saying, Rashad
- 1:23:01is, is, is very significant because you're basically saying
- 1:23:05like, like you don't need. And this is the the it's so
- 1:23:10simple, it's complicated. It's so simple, it's
- 1:23:13complicated. I can't emphasize this enough.
- 1:23:15I've had so many conversations with like higher net worth
- 1:23:17individuals that really rely on, on Tradfi to manage their
- 1:23:23wealth, right? And I go up to them, like,
- 1:23:26listen, like let's say they get a, a, a, a 12% return or 50,
- 1:23:31which is incredibly difficult to do it consistently over a long
- 1:23:34period of time, right? And I'm like, listen, all you
- 1:23:37got to do is buy Bitcoin put into self custody.
- 1:23:41And most likely it's going to give you between A50 to 20%
- 1:23:45return for the next 15 years, right?
- 1:23:47That's all you got to do. You don't have to pay someone.
- 1:23:50You just do whatever. You just have to buy it to boom,
- 1:23:52boom, boom, Bing. That's it, right?
- 1:23:55And it doesn't compute in their, in their minds because it, and
- 1:23:59because it's like they've been essentially conditioned.
- 1:24:02I, I can't think of another word to describe it, to believe that.
- 1:24:06Look some for some reason you have to become a part time
- 1:24:10investor just to maintain your purchasing power.
- 1:24:13Like that idea is ludicrous. It's insane.
- 1:24:17Like the idea that a house is seen as an investment is
- 1:24:23ridiculous and it's because of broken money.
- 1:24:26And just seeing you say this, Rajad is, is so like
- 1:24:32heartwarming, man. Because I remember our first
- 1:24:34conversation and just now you're just like a full blown maxi,
- 1:24:37more of a maxi than opti, honestly.
- 1:24:40I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
- 1:24:43Equal level maxi. But so, you know, this is
- 1:24:47incredible to hear you say that. Now, could you put some, and
- 1:24:50you're going to be able to explain this much better than me
- 1:24:52and Opti Rajat, because this is, this is your background.
- 1:24:55Could you break down your reasons?
- 1:24:58Like you made a very strong claim, which is like, look,
- 1:25:02houses are going to go down to their utility value.
- 1:25:04Nothing's going to outperform Bitcoin.
- 1:25:07How did you come to that conclusion?
- 1:25:10And could you talk a little bit about how housing is going to
- 1:25:13get cheaper over time as it relates to Bitcoin?
- 1:25:17I think it's really simple. Over time, you're going to
- 1:25:19continue to see the price of housing increase in terms of
- 1:25:22dollars. So if you save in dollars,
- 1:25:24you're going to keep getting diluted, your wealth is going to
- 1:25:26keep disappearing. So I, I think it's very simple
- 1:25:29in, in that more dollars will chase houses forever, Fewer
- 1:25:34Bitcoin will chase chase houses forever because the, let's say
- 1:25:37for example, I have 4 Bitcoin. How many people can afford for
- 1:25:41Bitcoin to pay for a house? You can't, you can't afford.
- 1:25:46Most people can't even imagine owning 4 Bitcoin at this point
- 1:25:50and, and it's not going to, it's not going to be happening for
- 1:25:53most people. I, I think most people aren't
- 1:25:54going to, are going to be able to buy less than 100,200
- 1:25:58thousand satoshis. They're going to have way less
- 1:26:00than that. So how is a house supposed to be
- 1:26:04worth for Bitcoin when people are going to have 102 hundred
- 1:26:08300,000 satoshis? I mean, I, I think it's, I think
- 1:26:11it's kind of a difficult route to, to, to take.
- 1:26:16But the way that I see it, why would you want pieces of paper
- 1:26:21for your labor? It's, it's, it's your time.
- 1:26:24You can't get it back. Once it's given to someone, you
- 1:26:27can't get it back. But on the other hand, let's
- 1:26:28say, for example, if you work with a certain company and they
- 1:26:32borrow money to pay your wage, they're literally getting the
- 1:26:35bank to create that money out of thin air to pay you for
- 1:26:38something that you can never get back.
- 1:26:40So over time, the way I mean, the way that I see it, I think
- 1:26:43it's only logical that more and more people won't want dollars
- 1:26:45anymore. They'll just want Bitcoin.
- 1:26:48It takes, it's very difficult to wrap your head around it, but
- 1:26:51once you get it, there's no going back.
- 1:26:54There's something that a lot of people are really trapped by.
- 1:26:58They say, oh, you got tax benefits with real estate, but
- 1:27:01those tax benefits are fake. They're just your government's
- 1:27:04just printing more and more money to to support its markets.
- 1:27:08Every market that's being supported is just it's, it's,
- 1:27:11it's a scam. Everything is a pyramid scheme.
- 1:27:14The only thing that's not a pyramid scheme is the thing that
- 1:27:16you can actually take self custody of.
- 1:27:18I even think that, I mean, gold is gold is going to 0 in terms
- 1:27:24of Bitcoin as well, right? Everything is going to 0 in
- 1:27:26terms of Bitcoin because there's no more Bitcoin that's going to
- 1:27:29be created. If you have the opportunity to
- 1:27:32buy a certain amount of Bitcoin today, in let's say 10 years,
- 1:27:35you're going to be able to buy a 10th of it.
- 1:27:37Then you're going to be buy able to buy a 10th of it because the
- 1:27:39sellers run out. The sellers are finite, the
- 1:27:42buyers are infinite. Everybody can buy Bitcoin, but
- 1:27:45the sellers will eventually run out.
- 1:27:46I think this is something that most people don't get.
- 1:27:48Most people are just trapped by that yield, dividends, that
- 1:27:52mindset, that point of view. But once you wrap your head
- 1:27:55around Bitcoin, you realize that Bitcoin is the cash flow.
- 1:27:58So you're going to have businesses that are paying
- 1:28:01dividends in Bitcoin, they're going to be priced in Bitcoin,
- 1:28:04they're going to sell their goods and services in Bitcoin.
- 1:28:06So when you're thinking of owning these companies because
- 1:28:10they're giving you U.S. dollars, you're going to underperform
- 1:28:12Bitcoin because with those dividends, how much, what's your
- 1:28:14return going to be? Like you said before, 15% is a
- 1:28:17very difficult return to get. But with Bitcoin over time,
- 1:28:21you're, you're not going to see those low returns Bitcoin.
- 1:28:25So the way that I think another way that I try to frame it is
- 1:28:30with the legacy financial system, you can delay
- 1:28:32gratification and you can get instant gratification at the
- 1:28:34same time. But with Bitcoin, you have to
- 1:28:37choose, you have opportunity costs.
- 1:28:39And that's really what changes everything.
- 1:28:43That, that's what makes it so that the, that that's what makes
- 1:28:47it so that you have to give away your Bitcoin.
- 1:28:50It's going to make it so that wealth keeps being redistributed
- 1:28:53from the, the wealthy to the poor.
- 1:28:55So let's say if your company can just create more money, they can
- 1:28:58keep all the assets, they can keep everything that's a hard
- 1:29:00asset to themselves and they can give you these pieces of paper.
- 1:29:03People have to opt into it, though.
- 1:29:05You it's not going anywhere until people opt in, the price
- 1:29:07is going to keep going up. Even if no new adopters come
- 1:29:11into Bitcoin, the price will continue to rise because of the
- 1:29:14people who own it already. They're going to keep buying
- 1:29:16more, but everybody has to actually opt in unless, unless
- 1:29:20they continue, unless they want to continue getting screwed
- 1:29:22over, they have to actually opt into the system.
- 1:29:24You can't, you can't take advantage of this 20 years from
- 1:29:28now when it's $10 million, when it's $20 million, when it's $50
- 1:29:32million. You have to opt in when you're
- 1:29:34early and, and now is when you're early.
- 1:29:36Most people are ignoring it because they, they just don't
- 1:29:38get it and they're wrapped. They, they've wrapped themselves
- 1:29:41into this crazy system of exploiting everybody else of
- 1:29:48buying houses for profit. And, and they try to compare it
- 1:29:52with grocery stores or you're selling food for a profit, but
- 1:29:54with a, a, a rental agreement, you're never giving that house
- 1:29:58away. You keep that house forever
- 1:30:00while your tenants keep paying you rent and you keep having
- 1:30:03them pay your lifestyle, though, while, while they're working for
- 1:30:06the money that they earn, while you get to borrow this money out
- 1:30:08of thin air. And it, it's a, it's a broken
- 1:30:11system altogether. And Bitcoin is really the only
- 1:30:13thing that that can break it. It needs to be broken.
- 1:30:21Mic Drop by Rajat. Mic drop Opti Could we pull up
- 1:30:24his his YouTube channel and take a look at some of his most
- 1:30:27popular videos? I want to, I want to, I want to
- 1:30:30talk about that. Yeah.
- 1:30:32Rajat, I mean, the way that you described it, man, was great.
- 1:30:34Go to click the popular tab. Opti No, just right there, bro.
- 1:30:39Right. Look.
- 1:30:41Yeah. There you go all right, so most
- 1:30:43popular video got 74,000 views. Actually, this is wait, you
- 1:30:48stole our topic. No, no, no, This is one of our
- 1:30:51this is one of our most favorite topics that that we actually
- 1:30:54haven't done in a while. Opti Oh perfect.
- 1:30:58Maybe we'll steal his topic this time.
- 1:30:59I mean it's Bitcoin's open source, man.
- 1:31:02No one's stealing anything. So Rajat, the the question is
- 1:31:07right, because this is a topic that's very popular.
- 1:31:09We do a live show on this at least once every other month.
- 1:31:13And I think a lot of people want to know now you, you did a 25
- 1:31:17minute video on this topic. So asking you to summarize that
- 1:31:21in two to three minutes, you know, is going to be difficult,
- 1:31:24but I'm going to ask you to do it anyways.
- 1:31:26So how much Bitcoin do you need to retire in 10 years?
- 1:31:31It depends on which which city you you want to live in.
- 1:31:34So let's say, for example, if you want to live in New York, I
- 1:31:39think in 10 years, you may need something like 10 Bitcoin, maybe
- 1:31:43maybe less than that. I don't remember the exact
- 1:31:45numbers. I, I all the numbers are in that
- 1:31:47video. But, but the funny, one of the
- 1:31:48funny things about the, the video is that I actually used
- 1:31:50data from Shift sovereign. Not sure if you guys know that
- 1:31:53website, Peter Schiff's website. It basically has the cost of
- 1:31:58living in multiple different cities, the quality of life
- 1:32:01there, the temperature, pollution level, all that stuff.
- 1:32:05I, I actually use that data to, to compile this video in
- 1:32:09general. I mean, you'd be surprised.
- 1:32:11In certain places you can retire with less than 0.1 Bitcoin, less
- 1:32:16than 0.2 Bitcoin in, in, depending on what the return is.
- 1:32:20Let's say, for example, if the return is 40% a year over the
- 1:32:23next 10 years. And I think that could be
- 1:32:26conservative. I don't know.
- 1:32:27Who knows, maybe we'll be completely underwhelmed, maybe
- 1:32:30it'll be much much higher, but there are cities that you can
- 1:32:33retire with less than 0.1 Bitcoin.
- 1:32:35So let's talk about, you know, let's focus on, let's go down
- 1:32:39the list, right? So like most of our audiences in
- 1:32:43the States. And then after that is Canada,
- 1:32:45then after that is the UK, and then after that's Australia.
- 1:32:47And then just kind of goes down the list.
- 1:32:50So let's say in a average American city, because New York
- 1:32:55is one of my favorite cities in the world.
- 1:32:57I love the lifestyle there. It's really cool.
- 1:33:00It's changed a little bit since the pandemic and all that.
- 1:33:02But like, OK, so New York, you need 10 Bitcoin.
- 1:33:07So what are you expecting the price of Bitcoin to be in 10
- 1:33:11years? Lobby actually can I share my
- 1:33:13screen on here of. Course.
- 1:33:15I can share my screen because, oh, there it is.
- 1:33:17OK. I actually have a spreadsheet
- 1:33:19that's pretty nicely laid out. If you want to, you can just go
- 1:33:22into the description of that video.
- 1:33:23So in New York, the cost of living, it says on this.
- 1:33:27Can you zoom in a little bit? Can you zoom in a little bit?
- 1:33:29It's a little small. Better, yeah.
- 1:33:32Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.
- 1:33:33Perfect. In New York, the cost of living
- 1:33:35from that website, I keep in mind I didn't run my own
- 1:33:38numbers. I got this from that website.
- 1:33:40So the cost of living was for a single person, 7753 dollars,
- 1:33:46very expensive you can retire with.
- 1:33:49So let's say for example, if you wanted stocks and you had a 10%
- 1:33:51return, you'd need about $4.2 million if the if the stock
- 1:33:56market gives you about a 7% return, this is in 10 years.
- 1:34:00I believe this is in 10 years. Let's see.
- 1:34:03Yeah, this is this is 10 years. So 10 years you'd need a $3.125
- 1:34:09million portfolio one second here.
- 1:34:13So your monthly investment would have to be about 10 point $9
- 1:34:17million. Sorry, did I?
- 1:34:20Oh, yeah, OK. No, that's fine.
- 1:34:21So this is based on inflation and it's based on how much money
- 1:34:25you put in into your portfolio. So if you were to retire in 20
- 1:34:28years, you'd have to invest a lot less.
- 1:34:30If you were to retire in 10 years, you'd have to invest a
- 1:34:35lot more, right? So, so with 10 years, you'd be
- 1:34:37investing $10,932.00 per month with Bitcoin if it gives you a
- 1:34:4220% return. So this was stocks at a 10%
- 1:34:44return. If Bitcoin gives you a 20%
- 1:34:46return, you need 4 Bitcoin. Sorry, A10 Bitcoin was
- 1:34:48completely off. So you'd need 4 Bitcoin to
- 1:34:50retire in New York in 10 years if Bitcoin gives you a 20%
- 1:34:54return. If it gives you a 30% return,
- 1:34:56you only need like 1.3 Bitcoin, which gives you 1.78, $1,000,000
- 1:35:00because you can sell some of your Bitcoin at that point.
- 1:35:02You can borrow money against it. If the dollar survives, I mean,
- 1:35:06the price is going a lot higher. I think if the dollar is going
- 1:35:09to collapse, it's going to have to be at a much, much higher
- 1:35:12price. It's not going to be right away.
- 1:35:14So at this point, you'd probably be selling some of your Bitcoin
- 1:35:17or you'd be able to borrow against your Bitcoin and you'd
- 1:35:19have this loan that just perpetually decreases in value
- 1:35:22to be worth nothing. If Bitcoin gives you a 40%
- 1:35:25return, you'd be able to retire with about 0.5 Bitcoin.
- 1:35:30That's incredible. That's great.
- 1:35:32Let's go. So let's go.
- 1:35:33That's New York City, one of the most expensive cities on the
- 1:35:36face of planet. Now, could you go let could you
- 1:35:41go a little bit lower? OK.
- 1:35:42So like Miami, for example, Right.
- 1:35:45And we'll do Miami, LA So Miami, LA are very similar, right.
- 1:35:48So general cost of living, it's very expensive.
- 1:35:52Yeah, exactly. Very cool.
- 1:35:57So it's stocks you'd, so it's stocks you'd put in about $8200
- 1:36:01per month. Keep in mind that some of these
- 1:36:03numbers might be off a little bit.
- 1:36:05So I mean, I would even round up by maybe 510% because you don't
- 1:36:09know what inflation will be. You don't know what returns on
- 1:36:11Bitcoin will be. So I would round up maybe 510%
- 1:36:14even from these numbers. Like let's say for example here
- 1:36:16you might round up to $10,000 a month with Bitcoin at a 20%
- 1:36:21return, you'd have to reinvest about $3580 and you'd have to
- 1:36:25have about $1.9 million in your portfolio.
- 1:36:27So you'd have about 3 Bitcoin at that point.
- 1:36:31With a 30% return, you'd have about one Bitcoin.
- 1:36:34With a 40% return, you'd need about 0.36 Bitcoin.
- 1:36:38It's crazy when you look at the numbers like how little Bitcoin,
- 1:36:41if it goes where we think it is, you, you really need to survive.
- 1:36:44And I think it goes to what you're saying, the majority of
- 1:36:46people won't own more than a couple 100,000 SAT's.
- 1:36:49It's it's absolutely nuts when you kind of put it in the
- 1:36:52spreadsheet. Yeah.
- 1:36:54Yeah, Could you and then hold on, I'm looking for a city that
- 1:36:57Opti would live in, like could you go down a little bit or what
- 1:37:01you think of the worst city? Let me go all the way to the
- 1:37:04water. Yeah, the worst city.
- 1:37:07That's where Opti's living. I saw Mexico somewhere.
- 1:37:11There we go. Not.
- 1:37:12Gone to Nigeria? Oh very perfect Islam Islamabad.
- 1:37:17No no, that's not Kabul. OK Opti for opti opti you only
- 1:37:22need .068. There's help to retire help for
- 1:37:25me if. It gives you a 40% return, Yeah.
- 1:37:29And and the cost of living there is about $1100 a month.
- 1:37:32Dude, I could live there, right? Now, oh man.
- 1:37:39Odessa, Ukraine, Bolivia. Interesting.
- 1:37:44Can can someone get this? Do you have this spreadsheet
- 1:37:50like? Cali Colombia bro.
- 1:37:52Cali, Colombia. Cool.
- 1:37:53Cool, do you have this spreadsheet on the Internet so
- 1:37:56people can check it out or is this just in that video?
- 1:37:59No, I have, I have it on my, I have it on that video.
- 1:38:02So if you go into the description of that video, I'll
- 1:38:04I'll, I'll stop sharing my screen.
- 1:38:05If you go to the description of that video, you can actually see
- 1:38:07it there. There's a link I'm welcoming any
- 1:38:11suggestions any if anybody thinks that the things that are
- 1:38:14on there are wrong, I want to improve, so let me know if you
- 1:38:17think that my numbers are off. I would be very interested in
- 1:38:20updating them and making them more accurate.
- 1:38:25Amazing, amazing man. Well, dude, love your work.
- 1:38:28Like I said, Rajat, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a massive fan and thank
- 1:38:32you so much for coming on the show today, guys.
- 1:38:34Go check out Rajat's YouTube channel, Incredible content.
- 1:38:39Like I said, I'm going to pull up on screen.
- 1:38:42It's called Rajat. Rajat's on there.
- 1:38:47We go appreciate it, appreciate it.
- 1:38:50So you could just search Rajat and it will pop up on YouTube.
- 1:38:53It drops daily content. Absolute beast and yeah, go go
- 1:38:58check it out. Also the next one.
- 1:39:00Holding Bitcoin over the next 6 to 12 months will be extremely
- 1:39:04difficult. The parabolic phase is next.
- 1:39:08I can't help but to ask you about that, Rajat.
- 1:39:10Where are we? Why is the price going sideways?
- 1:39:13I feel like. Bitcoins become more the
- 1:39:14audience. I mean, I think, I think there's
- 1:39:16always going to be pull backs. If you're, if you're expecting
- 1:39:19an asset like Bitcoin to just go straight up, you're going to
- 1:39:21feel stupid, right? It, it can go either way, either
- 1:39:25Bitcoin's price is going to drop from here and I don't really
- 1:39:28care either way. If Bitcoin's price drops to
- 1:39:2920,000, I'd be happy. I, I'd be extremely positive on
- 1:39:34that because it means I can buy more Bitcoin.
- 1:39:36I can, I can, I can have my family accumulate more Bitcoin.
- 1:39:39I have no problem with that. But the other side of things is
- 1:39:42what if the price goes so high that you're convinced to sell?
- 1:39:45I, I genuinely do think that that's going to happen at some
- 1:39:47point. There's going to be a point.
- 1:39:49If you look at one of my other videos, I said Bitcoin runs out
- 1:39:52at every price, and that's because it does.
- 1:39:54There's a finite number of sellers at every single price.
- 1:39:56And once those sellers are exhausted, there's no going
- 1:40:00back, right? We're not going to go back to
- 1:40:02$1000 Bitcoin. People might keep telling you
- 1:40:04that it will happen. And actually, I don't know if we
- 1:40:06can, if we're going to go back to $1000 Bitcoin.
- 1:40:08Who knows, maybe, maybe we see $1000 Bitcoin after Satoshi
- 1:40:11Nakamoto sells all of their Bitcoin.
- 1:40:14Maybe that happens. I can't tell you if that's going
- 1:40:15to happen or not, but all I know is that eventually the floor
- 1:40:19continues to rise, continues to rise until the price is
- 1:40:23unaffordable. Everybody will be will be priced
- 1:40:26out of owning one Bitcoin unless they own Bitcoin already.
- 1:40:30Even billionaires won't be able to own a whole Bitcoin at some
- 1:40:33point. It's crazy, No.
- 1:40:35And you're, you're right, man. If you go through the numbers
- 1:40:37right, it's like there's 60 million millionaires and there's
- 1:40:41only 21 million Bitcoin. Like that's it like there's not
- 1:40:46enough there's not enough there's not enough Bitcoin to go
- 1:40:48around anyways, guys, we're back at 87,000, about to break 88 K.
- 1:40:53The volatility has been absolutely crazy.
- 1:40:55I do want to thank our very special shot for joining us on
- 1:40:58the show. I'm your host, Nico.
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