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Bengals Recap, Bears Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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  Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we recap the steelers big
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  Speaker 1: win against the Cincinnati Bengals, look ahead to the matchup
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago against the Bears, and then we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about some interesting moments in NFL history where an on
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  Speaker 1: the field incident led to a suspension. I'm Nick de Tulio,
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  Speaker 1: and as always I'm joined by the world famous accountants
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  Speaker 1: Eric VANMONSHOWD and Eric has going tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Oh I'm not too bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a rainy day here in Cincinnati. Been
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  Speaker 3: a little gloomy. But I'll tell you what, Sunday, not
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  Speaker 3: gloomy at all.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it was a little gloomy for a little
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  Speaker 4: bit there.
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  Speaker 1: Uh No, the final score is at a little misleading,
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  Speaker 1: but again, after the game the Steelers had the last week,
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  Speaker 1: you are, or the last time these two teams met,
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  Speaker 1: you are certainly correct, and there is a much much
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  Speaker 1: better feeling than that Thursday night matchup in Cincinnati. So
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  Speaker 1: final score, Steelers walk away with a win thirty four
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  Speaker 1: to twelve. Afar from perfect game, but two very important
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  Speaker 1: plays happened in this game that were a big difference
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  Speaker 1: compared to that last game in Cincinnati. The Steelers scored
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns off turnovers. And when I say they scored
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns, I mean the defense scored two touchdowns. You
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  Speaker 1: had Kyle Duggar taken a pick six and then you
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  Speaker 1: had a return perre I believe had a fumble recovery
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  Speaker 1: for a touchdown as well. So definitely good to see
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers defense stepping up. Jamar Chase did not have
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  Speaker 1: a million receptions against us. The defense seemingly made some
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  Speaker 1: good adjustments to prevent that from happening again, and there
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  Speaker 1: were a few things that were touch and go with
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  Speaker 1: the offense.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sure we'll.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about Aaron Rodgers as well. He looked atle rough
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  Speaker 1: again nothing too terrible, but we come to find out
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  Speaker 1: that he has a fractured left wrist, so might explain
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  Speaker 1: some of the play we've seen over the last couple weeks.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if they can pinpoint when
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  Speaker 1: exactly that happened. But Mason Rudolph came into the game
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  Speaker 1: and took over. Jalen Warren also left with an injury.
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  Speaker 1: He had been playing very good and he actually had
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  Speaker 1: one of the longest runs of the year so far,
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  Speaker 1: a thirty five yarder that put the Steelers in good position.
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  Speaker 1: So all in all, it was a very good day
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  Speaker 1: by the Steelers. The defense in particular, again two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: Tough to complain about that. And yeah, I mean, without
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  Speaker 1: getting too far into the weeds here, because I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear your opinion on how the game went, too.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like this was a game that, despite some setbacks,
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  Speaker 1: particularly with injuries, the Steelers' game plan and execution was
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  Speaker 1: much better than the last time these two teams met
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  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and it seems like they took note of
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  Speaker 1: what happened in that last game and made it a
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  Speaker 1: point to not repeat history here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they did, and I mean a little foreshadowing.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think they basically said, Ramsey, go out there and
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  Speaker 2: disrupt Chase.
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  Speaker 3: And I think there was a tone set from the
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  Speaker 3: very early in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Some people call it dirty, but I remember, in particular,
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  Speaker 2: there was one I think Chase ran a hitch route,
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  Speaker 2: Ramsey came up and just delivered a huge blow to him.
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  Speaker 2: Chase dropped the ball, but at that moment the tone
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  Speaker 2: changed between the two.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, they were kind of chipping away at
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  Speaker 3: the whole game.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that there was definitely a tone set,
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  Speaker 2: you know, black of.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't look very comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: I think he ended up with less than five yards
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  Speaker 2: per attempt.
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  Speaker 3: Our run defense was.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that like Chase Brown's type
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  Speaker 2: of running back that should average about five yards to carry.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, it's hard to like nitpick on this.
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  Speaker 2: Defense because they did have big plays and they were responsible.
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  Speaker 2: If the offense did not play, they would have outscored
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  Speaker 2: the Bengals from a touchdown perspective.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I'll take that. And you know, we
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  Speaker 3: were very effective in holding them in the red zone.
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  Speaker 2: We were not in particular great in the red zone,
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  Speaker 2: but it didn't ultimately matter.
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  Speaker 3: In the outcome of this game.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of felt like a little bit of the
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  Speaker 2: coat s in the way that the defense carried us offensively.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to say that.
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  Speaker 2: Fully because you know, I think we had three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty yards in total offense, which is not a
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  Speaker 2: bad day at the office, but it it just never
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  Speaker 2: seemed like Rogers, Like I saw a statline and I
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  Speaker 2: was really surprised that his completion rate was high because
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  Speaker 2: he didn't seem very accurate.
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  Speaker 3: And then when he came out. I even texted you saying.
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  Speaker 2: Was not cheering for an injury, but you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it's a good time to kind of see what Mason
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  Speaker 2: Rudolph can do to kind of, you know, spark this offense.
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  Speaker 3: And Mason wasn't perfect, but I think he delivered some
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  Speaker 3: really great balls.
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  Speaker 2: There was one admission I definitely felt like he should
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  Speaker 2: have hit.
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  Speaker 3: There was a slant route. There's a third and short.
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  Speaker 2: Metcalf right there, and Mason Rudolph didn't see it should.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly been his first look.
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  Speaker 2: I think he ended up throwing it away and we
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  Speaker 2: kicked a field goal. But you know, I really I
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  Speaker 2: could probably call this probably one of our most complete games.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Colts game.
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  Speaker 2: Our offense wasn't as good, but our defense delivered, Whereas
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  Speaker 2: I think that offensively we did enough to maybe look
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  Speaker 2: like this could be a dangerous team.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and again that's no easy feat too when you're
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback leaves in the middle of the game too, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So they both both had touchdown passes, and like you said,
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  Speaker 1: Rogers went nine to fifteen, and I understand that the
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  Speaker 1: the wrist that he injured wasn't his throwing wrist. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you got a fractured rist. I mean, no
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  Speaker 1: one wants to deal with that and it hurts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that might explain why it seemed like he was
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  Speaker 1: a litle bit more fearful in the pop. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say fearful, but why he was a little
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  Speaker 1: more pressed. Yeah, especially not just this game, but the
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  Speaker 1: last game too against the Chargers. So so yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: And this was kind of like the Colts game, except
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  Speaker 1: they put the exclamation point on it and they closed
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  Speaker 1: out the game too.
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  Speaker 4: Granted it was a.
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  Speaker 1: Little bit closer at the start of the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 1: but hey, they showed up. They did what they needed
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  Speaker 1: to do. I've been pretty impressed with Kyle Dugger so far.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's really only acquired because they're so stretched
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  Speaker 1: than at safety, but he came in and has been
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  Speaker 1: a bright spot with very little prep time too, so
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  Speaker 1: that'll be good. I'm glad that he got one of
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  Speaker 1: those pick sixes. That was a big deal for me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we haven't even talked about the play of
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  Speaker 1: the game either, which was the Darnell Mount Washington run
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  Speaker 1: where he trucked three different people and I think everyone
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  Speaker 1: was a little skeptical about the all the tight ends
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  Speaker 1: that they've acquired, but it is kind of nice in
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  Speaker 1: different different weeks where we're seeing a different tight end
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  Speaker 1: step up in a different way too. Darnel Washington obviously
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  Speaker 1: being more like the truck who's gonna run over people,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously we know he's a big block or two,
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  Speaker 1: and Friar Mooth's a little bit closer to a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: John new Smith is kind of a high in the
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  Speaker 1: two of between the two as well. So it's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of interesting to see that play out. And I
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  Speaker 1: think if the Steelers are able to capitalize on that,
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  Speaker 1: that would be a pretty big deal because I just
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that might be odd for teams to
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  Speaker 1: have to try to prepare for, is knowing which tight
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  Speaker 1: end is going to be the weapon and how are
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  Speaker 1: they going to deploy them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: I wish though, I was looking at the stat line,
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  Speaker 2: and I do wish we had some.
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  Speaker 3: Balance when it came to our wide.
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  Speaker 2: Receivers because gain Will is actually the leading receiver of
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  Speaker 2: the game, and then if you look at the other
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  Speaker 2: people that led, I mean outside of Metcalf, I think
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  Speaker 2: the highest catch like I think.
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  Speaker 3: Rowan Wilson had like one or two receptions. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I worry that we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: be explosive enough from a wide receiver standpoint, just because
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  Speaker 2: you can't expect thirty five year old rumbling, tumble and
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  Speaker 2: stumbling Darnell Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Every kind of game.
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  Speaker 1: But thirty five year old Darnell Washington.
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  Speaker 3: I meant thirty five yard.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it was like he's not that old. He's
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  Speaker 1: not as old as us. Now, I'm with you, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that was part of the reason why the
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  Speaker 1: expectation was that there was going to be a move
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  Speaker 1: at wide receiver before the trade deadline, because even with
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  Speaker 1: all those tight ends, I still think it helps to
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  Speaker 1: have a number two out there, if nothing else, just
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  Speaker 1: to kind of take a little bit of the pressure
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  Speaker 1: off of decay. But as it is, either Valdez Scantlink's
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  Speaker 1: going to have to make an appearance at some point,
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  Speaker 1: or one of these other guys, probably Calvin Austin is
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  Speaker 1: going to need to step up and make a little
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  Speaker 1: more of themselves known too. So all right, but I
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  Speaker 1: do I think it's important to point out too we
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  Speaker 1: can talk about the receptions for the Bengals real quick.
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  Speaker 1: T Higgins three receptions for sixty three yards with a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: The touchdown came after the Steelers scored their touchdown, so
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  Speaker 1: I think you and I and everyone else was kind
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  Speaker 1: of in the same boat, like, oh geez, here we
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  Speaker 1: go again, another thirty four to thirty two game. But
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  Speaker 1: after that it was he was relatively quiet. And then
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  Speaker 1: again Jamar Chase three receptions for thirty yards, and the
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  Speaker 1: big story was you had Ramsey getting ejected for punching Chase,
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  Speaker 1: and then our initial reaction was, wow, that was really stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Why can't you what's going on there? And then afterwards
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  Speaker 1: it comes out on video pretty clearly that Jamar Chase
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  Speaker 1: spit on him, and the most maddening thing for me,
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't seen anyone necessarily condoning it, so I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's good. But I was just scratching my head
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  Speaker 1: because first he lied about it and said I didn't
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  Speaker 1: do that, and it's like, are you Why are you
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  Speaker 1: lying when you're in a stadium surrounded by seventy thousand
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  Speaker 1: people with smartphones and a broadcast crew. And then in
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  Speaker 1: his appeal, he's his defense is if I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: spit on him. I would have spat on his face,
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  Speaker 1: not at the ground or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: It's just weird, and I think to what you were
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  Speaker 1: talking about earlier, it shows that they did get in
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  Speaker 1: his head and it wasn't just Ramsey, it was Joey
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  Speaker 1: Porter all game two was covering him. And you don't
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  Speaker 1: really have to wonder where Joey Porter Junior gets that
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  Speaker 1: attitude from. But he So as of now, Jamar Chase
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  Speaker 1: is gonna sit have a one game suspension, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk more about the suspension a little bit later too.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if you saw Mike Tomlin's press
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  Speaker 1: conferences today when someone asked him, like, what's your message.
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  Speaker 4: When someone spits on you or something?
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  Speaker 1: And he says, I don't really have a message for you.
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  Speaker 4: Do what comes natural, And I.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, and it was kind of it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of interesting to me because I'm like, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go down another rabbit hole or anything here. But
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  Speaker 1: those are the kind of answers that you want to
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  Speaker 1: hear your coach make, especially if you're a player on
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  Speaker 1: his team.
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  Speaker 4: That's why that's one of Tomlin's.
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  Speaker 1: Strongest attributes, I would say, so those are the kind
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  Speaker 1: of things that I think Tomlin does really well at.
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  Speaker 1: It's so it's good to see that still shining through
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  Speaker 1: and he hasn't lost any of that fire and that
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  Speaker 1: we can still expect him to have his guys back in.
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  Speaker 4: The fox hole in the fox hole.
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  Speaker 1: So I just wanted to mention that that I was
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  Speaker 1: I was pretty happy with Tomlin's handling of it. And
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  Speaker 1: then in light of how it all went down and
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  Speaker 1: for all the weird penalties these refs called, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy that they missed the spitting too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of, like I felt like,
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  Speaker 2: not often called penalties. One that I still don't understand,
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  Speaker 2: and I get it, Like I was watching with someone
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  Speaker 2: They're like, well, he ran a pick, but DK metcalf,
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  Speaker 2: he ran around and you could I know he was
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  Speaker 2: intending to do a pick, But the way that you
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  Speaker 2: can possibly frame.
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  Speaker 3: It is he ran a hitch rout.
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  Speaker 2: He stopped and got in the running lane of the
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  Speaker 2: defensive back and so we had a big gain and
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  Speaker 2: it got called back. But I was watching that and
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  Speaker 2: I'm a defensive back. That was fair, Like, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I didn't see the I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: there was that. There was obviously the T. J. Watt
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  Speaker 2: landing on top of Flacco raised.
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  Speaker 3: The big stack.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know there there are a lot of penalties
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  Speaker 2: that And this isn't me saying, you know, the.
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  Speaker 3: The rest are wearing stripes. I know they wear stripes
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  Speaker 3: in general, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It just it felt like a weird, cold game, like
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  Speaker 2: a tightly called game in a way, so for them
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  Speaker 2: to kind of like all of a sudden, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: like this shippiness, they.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely did not do anything to kind of like keep
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  Speaker 3: it at bay and then it finally boiled over.
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  Speaker 2: It was two or three plays in a row with
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  Speaker 2: these guys getting into it before this happened, and.
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  Speaker 1: That's why Ramsey got a jet did because that was
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  Speaker 1: his second personal foul like that. So yeah, anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: think Ramsey got vindicated.
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  Speaker 4: Which is which is good. That's what should happen.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, the Steelers did
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  Speaker 1: get the win, they did move to six and four,
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  Speaker 1: they are still in first place, and the Bengals are
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  Speaker 1: now at three and seven and they've got some things
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  Speaker 1: they need to sort out.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, do you think that, Like, do you think
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  Speaker 2: spitting is a suspension worthy offense?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, if you're spitting on someone.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, do you think I understand? I think it's like
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  Speaker 2: one of those things. I don't necessarily think it's a suspension,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's been happening.
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  Speaker 3: So much that they just have been like, Okay, we're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Make an example of this to stop this trend, because
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's been happening a lot in the
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  Speaker 2: league so far.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, we had it on the very
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  Speaker 1: first game of the year the Cowboys and Eagles, where
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  Speaker 1: I think Dak spat at what was it, Jalen Carter
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  Speaker 1: spat Dak Well, Dak spat on the ground in front
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  Speaker 1: of him, and then Carter spat on him.
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  Speaker 4: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Even last year in the game in the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: Oregon game in Oregon, I think, wasn't one of Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State's receivers did it or one of Oregon's receivers. One
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  Speaker 1: of the receivers did it in that game too, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. It seems like it is becoming more prevalent.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure why, but.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if the league stands is to curb
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  Speaker 1: it like you're thinking, But I for me, it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a suspendable offense anyway. More more so if you're
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  Speaker 1: spitting on someone, if you're spitting like on the ground
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  Speaker 1: at their feet, that's different.
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  Speaker 4: But I guess I'm not going to get into the.
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  Speaker 1: Logistics of different kinds of spitting either so, and whether
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  Speaker 1: it's alogie or whether it's just clear.
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  Speaker 3: Spit, ali is a two games suspension.
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  Speaker 1: There, you go careful, then they're going to start like
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  Speaker 1: combing the fields to collect the DNA and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, there you have it. The Steelers do
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  Speaker 1: win thirty four to twelve. Their next game is in
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  Speaker 1: Chicago against the Bears. The Bears are a really interesting
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  Speaker 1: team because they've struggled at times this year, but they're
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  Speaker 1: sitting at seven and three and they're winning games in
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  Speaker 1: some really crazy ways that they I would think their
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  Speaker 1: fans probably would sit back and think, Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we deserve to.
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  Speaker 4: Win that game, or there's no way we should have
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  Speaker 4: won that game.
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  Speaker 1: One of those was against the Bengals, which we saw
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, but this last week they
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  Speaker 1: just beat the Vikings on their last second field goal.
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  Speaker 1: And it's interesting because in our pregame show, our pre
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  Speaker 1: season show, and I know other people have said it too,
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  Speaker 1: the joke has been that the Steelers could lose sixteen
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  Speaker 1: games this year and the one game that they will
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  Speaker 1: win no matter what, as long as he is playing
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  Speaker 1: is the Chicago.
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  Speaker 4: Game with Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: And now we don't know if Aaron Rodgers is even
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  Speaker 1: going to play, which is just a cruel twist of irony, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I will say the game is in Chicago. I
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  Speaker 1: do think that, regardless of who the quarterback is, if
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers defense continues to play as well as they have,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to be tough for Caleb Williams. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the Bears are not playing like the same way the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots are or even the Colts had been to It's
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  Speaker 1: a very thin seven and three, we'll say. But I'll
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  Speaker 1: leave it to you, Eric to start us off here
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  Speaker 1: as we move forward with this game in Chicago this
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  Speaker 1: coming Sunday. What are some of your keys?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the key is so we
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: finished off the Bengals when we should have.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: But as you've mentioned before, it has been a chopping.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Proposition for our team to close out games.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: We've jumped on teams.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: A lot, and.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: But I think I'm a little I get nervous because
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: they have seven wins. Five of them they had to
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: come back within the last two minutes.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Of the game. So that's like to get five comeback wins.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Like I think I saw it. It was crazy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: There was a somewhat notable quarterback I'm forgetting his name,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: but he.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Like had only one game winning drive.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And yet Caleb Williams has five of them.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And then also I saw a stat about how Caleb Williams,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: who got sacked like sixty eight times last year, even
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: though the.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Pressure rate is the same same or.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Like league average, he's becoming shiftier.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So you know, it will be a kind of an interesting.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: X factor of like, our defense is starting to look better,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: they're starting to create pressure, we're.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Healthy, can we get him down?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So you know, I think I'll say, like, if we
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: can get three sacks in this game, will probably win
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the game, because it means that the defense is getting
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to Caleb Williams and possibly creating turnovers, causing a completions, etc.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: And not just those three sacks that get into the
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: ground and they lose yard.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think that's a good call out.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: The three sacks, I think is a fair number.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: The Bears are.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: They're they're interesting because they're They're head coach is Ben Johnson,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and it's clear that they brought him over from Detroit
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: because he's one of the offensive gurus of the league.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: He did amazing things the last couple of years in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Detroit with Jared Goffet quarterback. They want to obviously developed
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: killed Williams. They spent a lot of well, they didn't
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: spend a lot of capital. They got a good trade
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: from Carolina to get him. But obviously anytime you use
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the number one pick overall, you want to try to
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: give him everything you can right to be scessful. So
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: but again, you are exactly right. The Bears have had
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Of come from behind wins.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: They've also had a lot of very close wins as well,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a couple one point wins four points. So I think
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the big thing for me is what's going to happen
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: at quarterback here. And it's not that I don't trust
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. I think Mason Rudolph is a very reliable
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: backup quarterback.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: And.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: We'll just have to.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I know that Aaron Rodgers is pushing to play, which
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: is good. You want your starting quarterback to push to play.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But I just wonder if he is banged up, would
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: it be better to just let him sit one out,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: get better and come back in right.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, I agree, especially like Rudolph as the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: composure to do it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: You don't want to rush him back and then he's
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: gone for the season, you know, So I agree.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, a fracture is pretty tough. And
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's say it's in.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Clement weather too, then I mean, you gotta hold onto
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: that ball. And I I think.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Our line has been playing okay, but it's not like
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: we had the best line in the league either.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: He's he's gonna get hit. So yeah, it's it's tough.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And where I was going with that too, is I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: curious as to how the prep's gonna go and who
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: who's gonna get the reps and how the workload's gonna look.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: The other thing that we hear a lot about, and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I think that it just usually gets thrown out there
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: as a talking point is sometimes when the backup goes
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: in or when you're not clear who's going to be
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the starter.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: It makes it harder to prepare.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: For the other team, I guess, and I don't know
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: how much I subscribe to that, particularly in this situation
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: where the difference is Aaron Rodgers versus Mason Rudolph.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I'll just leave it at that. But no,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I do think the quarterback is going to be the
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: biggest thing. I think a.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Fully healthy Aaron Rodgers I just think we win this game.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: He would summon whatever magical forces he has left in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: him and would will this team to a victory by himself.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think Mason Rudolph has the same hatred of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the Bears that Aaron Rodgers does, so again, that's what
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it comes down to to me. I'm going to trust
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that the defense is going to stay pretty competent in
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: this matchup. I like that they've been trending in the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: right direction and I think, at least for now, earned
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. Since we've had a couple
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: weeks of solid play, but offensively offensively I haven't seen
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: We've seen a regression almost a little bit better this
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: past week, but the last couple of weeks the offense
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: has been not so great. Look one thing that we
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: talk about, and I know the fans talk about every
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: week too, is I want Jalen Warren on the field more.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I know Gainwell had his touchdowns and everything this past week,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: which was fine, but we talked about it too, like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Jaleen Warren has a thirty five yard run and he
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: immediately gets.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Taken out of the game.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Like, sure, he's probably winded and needs a break at
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a point, but you have forty seconds between each play,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and you're a professional athlete. I think you can run
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: thirty five yards and then take forty seconds and come
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: back into it. So again, I feel like I'm going
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: off the beaten path here and just airing out all
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: my grievances.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: But I think.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Richard, whichever quarterback plays, I want them to be at
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: full health. So if it's Aaron Rodgers, I want that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: fracture to at least be numb come game time. And
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: if it's not the case, then I want Mason Rudolph
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to go in. Like you said, I don't want to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: risk losing him for the year, because when he's been on,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: he's on right, and he's obviously a capable leader and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a very smart quarterback, which I think is a big
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: deal to have, particularly in the later part of the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: season and into the postseason, to someone who's going to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: keep their composure. And then again, I keep jelling Warren
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: on the field, Please keep him on the field. This
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: is kind of a tough game for me to call,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: just because of the quarterback situation. I think I'm gonna
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: go with Chicago on this one, just because you mentioned
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the con from behind wins and the close wins. Having
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: familiarity in those situations is a big deal. And with
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the uncertainty around the Steelers, I think, and the fact
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that it's in Chicago, I think is just a little
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: more advantageous to them. But if the Steelers completely flip
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the script here.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised either.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But for the sake of having a prediction, I'm going
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to go with the Bears here, and I'm going to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: give them a let's say, a twenty one to seventeen victory.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I was pretty close on the score a hand on
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: my mind.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking depense like fast, So I.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Was going to go Steelers twenty to seventeen.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So all right, Well, I hope you're right, but it
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: will be interesting to see what happens here. I'm hoping
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that we get some confirmation on what's going on with
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers soon again, just to know what to expect.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: But by the same token, I guess if you're Mike Tomlin.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: You probably want to keep that card as close to
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the vest as possible as well. So yeah, so there
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you have it. Eric has the Steelers winning.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: I have them losing.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just the Debbie Downer this year, so sorry, folks.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: With the incident in Pittsburgh this past week with Jamar
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Chase spitting on jail and Ramsey, we thought it might
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: be interesting to talk about some memorable on the field
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: incidents that led to a suspension. I'm interested to hear
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: what you have, Eric, I know there's one that every
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Steelers fan is going to mention first for all of time,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: but let me talk or let me hear your take first.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: What's a memorable on the field incident that got a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: player suspended that jumps out in your mind?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not before I related, but I
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: remember there was a guy I think he even got
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: charged criminally in the NHL.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: He took a hockey stick and then smacked the guy
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: in the back of the head with it while they're skating.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I remember that his name was like McSorley, you know.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And then another one I just remember was Hainsworth.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Always just got.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the stomping thing, just I don't know he was
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: it Hainesworth.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Or was it a Sue Worth? Oh okay, Well Sue
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: was also a head case and did stuff like that too.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and I mean, obviously there's another notable one
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: in another league. But I won't steal your thunder. I'll
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: at you see if you have any other ones that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: kind of jumped out.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Well, the Hainsworth one was interesting because he was, you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: stomping on a guy's head on on the field and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like we talked about with Jamar Chase. It's
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: sometimes when people do things, I'm like, you're literally on
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a TV like there's a whole production crew there, Like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna get away with anything. Even if they
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: don't call a penalty, you're gonna get hit with a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: fine or suspended after the fact. So that was a
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: big one. I was when you did steal my thunder,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: gonna look up on Google real quick. A player that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure was suspended many times for on the field stuff.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And do you want to guess the player that I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: decided to look up Draymond Green. No, I'm keeping it
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: with football, so I went with Vontees Perfect. Okay, he
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: actually got suspended. As I'm reading again, this is AI
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and I try not to follow Vontees Perfect. But in
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he got suspended for the rest of the
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: year for a helmet to helmet hit on the Colts
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: tight end Jack Doyle. And it was in September of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, so he got suspended for the whole year,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and it was because that was part of a repeated history.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Of like dirty hits.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: So that wasn't even like a hey, I spit on
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you or like throwing a punch or something that was like, bro,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: we've told you so many times stop.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Doing this, and you keep doing it. We're taking you out.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: So the one that I.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Was referencing that every Steelers fan is always going to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: talk about is the Miles Garrett helmet incident, which it
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: still floors me to this day, and I'm kind of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: surprised that the guys in the league, but he's one
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: of the big superstars. So I guess it makes sense.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But and you talked about in that hockey incident where
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: there was charges pressed.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I think that if.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph had suffered any sort of injury from that,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like he had gotten hit with the crown of the helmet,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I think there would have been charges pressed, and I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: think he would have been completely justified.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: To do so.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we still have there's Cleveland people who still
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: think that he did nothing wrong.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Too.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Well, they're Cleveland, They're they're delusional fans. So oh my gosh, well,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: speaking of Cleveland.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: So because you texted me that basically the Browns, you.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Know, kind of like blew the game.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Against the Ravens, so I saw that it was doors
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: like the debut into the league.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And he could have spiked the ball on every single
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: play and had a better passer than one.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: He ended up with.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of his one of his interceptions was pretty bad.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it was.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I I don't want to say, I know you're pain
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: to a Cleveland fan after having one afternoon cheering for
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the Browns.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: But it was humbling to go into.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: That or to have that brief experience for a little
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: bit of being a Browns fan and just watching it
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: all implode and the rest of them are all just
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: numb to it. Yeah, but I guess if there's any
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: positives to take away from it, it's that the Ravens
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: might have some weak points in their armor after all,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: even with Omar there.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going back to the suspension thing I saw
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: when I did my homework on this one that I
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: saw that was interesting. So ninety seven, the Knicks were
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: playing the Heat, and in game five they got into
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a fight with the Heat and benches cleared, and so
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: essentially the whole entire Knicks starting lineup got suspended, not one,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: but two games, so game six and seven, and so
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: obviously they lost that series because you and got suspended.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Stars got suspended, Alan Houston got suspended.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I think there was one more.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Guy that got suspended, but all but one starter got
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: suspended for their role in a bra.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's too harsh.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that, Like, I didn't watch the brawl,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: but you're gonna tell me, in like the in the playoffs,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: you're gonna suspend the whole starters, like every single player.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that would happen today, just because
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: people would realize, like, hey, we might not get the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: ratings that we would normally if we suspend an entire
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: team starting starting five, right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: New York, like the Knicks.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think I would say the Knicks.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Besides the Yankees, the Knicks are New York's team.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree with that, and they're one of
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the Even though they haven't had the most success in
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: recent years, they're one of the iconic NBA brands too. Yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: they're still one of the most valuable franchises.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just being in New York does that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But yes, but man, good grief, could you imagine well, uh, sorry, Pittsburgh,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to be suspending your entire offense for this
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: this next game, so good luck.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, because like I can get like, Okay, you
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: suspend one guy who is the.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Ringleader of the fight, right, yeah, but.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Then the whole team, Man, I'd.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Be so pissed.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about something a little bit happier now,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: because we talked about this a little bit before we
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: hit record, and it is just it is kind of
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: funny and it's interesting and it does tie back to
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the Steelers too, kind of interesting. Back home in Cincinnati,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Eric's High School and my high school are going to
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: be playing this Friday night in the playoffs at pay
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Course Stadium, which is the Bengals Stadium. And the reason
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: that this is interesting, and I say it ties back
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to the Steelers, is because initially this game was supposed
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: to be played at another high school field, a neutral
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: site that seats seven thousand people, which is normally a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: pretty fair stadium size, I would say, but these two teams,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: these two schools are large schools with very rabid fan bases.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: They're what maybe fifteen or so miles away from each other,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: so it's not like they're playing from across the state
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: or anything. They sold out that game in like what
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes or something, so after some negotiations that they
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: agreed or got an agreement with the Bengals and the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: county to play at.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Pay Course Stadium.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to at least mention that here that
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: our Alma maters are going to be playing against each
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: other in a probably the biggest high school game of
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the year in the state of Ohio outside of what
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: will eventually be the state championship. But I just I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: think it's funny that the last couple of weeks too,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Steelers having to share their
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: field and the Bengals, of all organizations who have the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: opportunity to possibly make a buck here held had to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: go through negotiations and stuff before finally relenting. But it'll
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: also be interesting to see what the field, which is
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: terf is going to look like compared to what the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Steelers games look like after a team plays on their
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: field the day before too. Yeah again, I'm just a
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: bitter guy, but.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Excuse me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: But now, and we've talked about it before in the show,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: high school football is a big deal in Ohio.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: I know a few weeks.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Ago I said that the GCL is not the greatest
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: conference in the in the country, and Eric was pretty
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: upset with me. I guarantee you one team's gonna lose
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: on Friday, so no undefeated playoff records here now. But anyway,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it is kind of cool that they're gonna be playing
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: at the Bengals stadium. I know that they've played there
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: before they've had some really big crowds, so that'll be fun.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: And obviously the Bombers will walk away with a victory and.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Obviously, So I just know, I just thought it was interesting.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: It's a cool story. I'm glad that they work something out.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that the Bengals are agreeing to let this happen.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Very rare pr win for Paul or Mike Brown rather,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: but yeah, again, to keep it back with the Steelers,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I just want to point out that there's gonna be
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: two days difference between when the Bengals play and when
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the this high school game is and I'm sure that
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: field's gonna look fine. So I mean, it is turf,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: but I'm just calling out that it can be done.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: You can have a good field while sharing the stadium.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And if you can't do that, then someone's gotta go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta fire Joe tom Tomland's
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: lands landscape guy.
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  Speaker 1: We don't even know that that's his name. Tomlin doesn't
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: even know that that's his name. All right, Well, is
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  Speaker 1: there anything else that you wanted to talk about while
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  Speaker 1: we're here?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I think we covered quite the gambit. And I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: that when we get together next week it'll be the
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week I'll have all my family down here. I'll
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: have played my younger brother, the unpaid student intern in
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: fantasy this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I'm hoping that we run the whole gambit.
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  Speaker 1: That we get the high school win on Friday, the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: bear Cats get a win on Saturday, the Steelers win
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I knocked the unpaid student and turned
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: down a peg or two and take him out in
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: fantasy football.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, but I hope you have won loss.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if I had to pick one
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of those four things to happen, I would pick the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Steelers to win, because that's how committed I am to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the team. I can lose the rest, all right. I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: think that does it for us. For the world famous
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: accountants Eric Vandminschottin, I am Nick Detulio. And this has
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: been another episode of the GameHouse dot COM's Steelers Country
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