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Brett Ciancia previews the 2026 College Football season, Will Utah still be Utah under Morgan Scalley (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: and the best time of the year in sports. Brett
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  Speaker 1: Ciancia has been publishing Pick six Previews to great success,
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  Speaker 1: enough to welcome Brett Sciancia here on the Sean O'Connell Show. Brett,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: How are you sir, Hey Shawn doing well? Thanks you,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. It's a busy time
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  Speaker 2: of year, but really the best time of year here
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  Speaker 2: Pick six Previews magazine season. We published a twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: six edition. The hard copies are rolling off the printing press,
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  Speaker 2: shipping them across the country. But really excited for this
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  Speaker 2: my fifteenth edition. I think it was the biggest coaching
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  Speaker 2: carousel I've ever covered throughout the country. Biggest transfer portal too,
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  Speaker 2: with two thousand players moving around so lots of breakdown.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really excited for this edition and for the season.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you just mentioned the coaching carousel and the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 1: and both of those had a massive effect on the
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  Speaker 1: University of Utah football program and where of course the
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  Speaker 1: flagship home of the Utes. One of the biggest stories
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  Speaker 1: in sports in our state recently is, of course, the
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  Speaker 1: departure of Kyle Whittingham for the Michigan job and the
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  Speaker 1: longtime air apparent, the head coaching waiting, Morgan Scalley, now
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  Speaker 1: takes the reins of this program officially for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, he coached the Bowl game, but this is
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  Speaker 1: his first season. What do you expect from the Utes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, first off, Hughes, congrats to Kyle Whittingham. What
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  Speaker 2: a long, incredible tenure for Utah. Think of it. Eighteen
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  Speaker 2: winning seats, eight ten win seasons, just a mark of consistency.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been doing the magazine for most of
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  Speaker 2: those years, and I knew what I was going to
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  Speaker 2: get every year with Utah. It was a very physical team,
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  Speaker 2: tight culture, all those buzzwords, good locker room, all those buzzwords,
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  Speaker 2: but they back it up on the field the way
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  Speaker 2: they practice, the way they play, the way they hit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and the stadium is always rocking over there.
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  Speaker 2: The camera literally shakes when you watch them on TV
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  Speaker 2: on big plays. So I knew what I was getting
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  Speaker 2: every year with Utah. And the thing is, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to continue. I put there in the book
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  Speaker 2: this year Utah is still Utah by keeping Morgan Scalley,
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  Speaker 2: it's all Lake City now. As the head coach, I
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  Speaker 2: know that defense is going to look as it always
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  Speaker 2: has and now maybe some slight scheme changes on offense,
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  Speaker 2: but you've got your quarterback back. You're running back back
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  Speaker 2: a lot to like. So once Utah going to look
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  Speaker 2: like it'll look like Utah has for most of the
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  Speaker 2: last ten fifteen years. Now, some new faces on the
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  Speaker 2: lines of scrimmage are a question for me, but when
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  Speaker 2: has that ever really been a question at Utah. If
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  Speaker 2: there's one spot that they reload every year, it is
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  Speaker 2: those lines of scrimmage. So I think you've got a
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  Speaker 2: top twenty five team again despite the coaching transition, and
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  Speaker 2: then you know, an outside shot to make it to
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  Speaker 2: the Big Talk title Game.
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  Speaker 1: It's a friendly schedule as far as we can tell
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  Speaker 1: on paper, right I mean, the Big twelve, you never
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  Speaker 1: know what's really going to happen. A couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 1: we were all so wrong about the preseason outlook that
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  Speaker 1: they stopped doing preseason polls because Arizona State went from
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  Speaker 1: last to first and the real results. And I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you know, we probably all have it handicapped.
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  Speaker 1: Similarly with Texas Tech and BYU and Utah kind of
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  Speaker 1: in the mix there. How much of that schedule for
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  Speaker 1: Utah factors into the outlook for a successful year for
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  Speaker 1: Morgan Scalley's debut.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a favorable schedule. And and when you
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  Speaker 2: look at the contenders, I agree with you, those are
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  Speaker 2: really the three that I have my eye on Texas Tech,
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  Speaker 2: it's DYU and Utah. And I know there's no media
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  Speaker 2: poll anymore down at Media Days, but they did a
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  Speaker 2: coaches vote, and I was shocked to see that the
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  Speaker 2: coaches picked BYU to win the conference. Now, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: no knock on BYU, that they're certainly deserving us some hype,
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  Speaker 2: But how do you pick against Texas Tech the way
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  Speaker 2: that they dominated and steamrolled the conference last year? I
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  Speaker 2: think maybe it might be some off the field politicking
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  Speaker 2: going on picking against Tech there at media days, but
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  Speaker 2: their talent is undeniable for Utah. Though you're right about
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  Speaker 2: this schedule, it's very favorable for a transitional year. The
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  Speaker 2: non conference looks like three and oh. The tough Power
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  Speaker 2: four game is Arkansas this year, but that's a team
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  Speaker 2: that's also going through a coaching change, massive roster turnover,
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  Speaker 2: and dead last projection in the SEC. I've got them
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  Speaker 2: sixteenth out of sixteen over there, so it's in Salt
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  Speaker 2: Lake City. I see a w so I see three
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  Speaker 2: and oh. And then you look at Big twelve play
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  Speaker 2: opening up, and Utah's first three games are against my
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  Speaker 2: bottom three in the whole conference, with Iowa State my
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  Speaker 2: pick for dead last in the Big twelve, Colorado's second worst,
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  Speaker 2: and Kansas third worst. So it really is not outside
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  Speaker 2: the realm of possibility. In fact, should be should be
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  Speaker 2: a six and oh start heading into a huge matchup
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  Speaker 2: with Houston.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get two off track because I want
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  Speaker 1: to stay focused on the utes here. But you just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned Colorado and the outlook is not great there, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously we all got caught up in the charisma train
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  Speaker 1: of coach Prime at one point and hopefully his health
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  Speaker 1: is back to normal this coming season. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: struggles with that last year. He's one of the highest
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  Speaker 1: paid coaches in college football, and Colorado's not seeing the
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  Speaker 1: results yet and they're not expected to see the results
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  Speaker 1: this coming season. What does that mean for Colorado's future
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  Speaker 1: and for his future.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, they had their breakout season in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: They got a Heisman Trophy there, his son Shador Razzlo
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  Speaker 2: and dazzled all season. It was a nice year for them.
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  Speaker 2: But to follow that up last year in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five a total flop. They won three and nine, one
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  Speaker 2: in eight in the conference there. It was really tough
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  Speaker 2: to watch, and you know, it looked like some poor
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  Speaker 2: offensive coaching. But what they did is they hired a
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  Speaker 2: proven offensive coordinator to maybe fix that side, and they're
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  Speaker 2: bringing Brendan Marion. He calls it his go go offense.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's a little bit of everything if you look
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  Speaker 2: at it. It's got some high school stuff, some college stuff,
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  Speaker 2: some pro stuff tempo. So I like what they did
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  Speaker 2: with the higher now. I just don't think they have
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  Speaker 2: the talent and the horses here to do it. Lines
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  Speaker 2: of scrimmage are huge questions. They've been pushed around in
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  Speaker 2: the trenches for years, even during that good twenty twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think they address those concerns. If you
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  Speaker 2: want a silver lining for Colorado. What's different this time
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  Speaker 2: around is there's no transfer portal after springball, and some
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  Speaker 2: programs were fine with it. But I remember with Colorado,
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  Speaker 2: I would write the preview in March and April. My
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  Speaker 2: first draft, I'd have to throw the entire page out
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  Speaker 2: because like forty players would leave in May and it'd
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  Speaker 2: be a whole new roster there may June July. So
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  Speaker 2: like at least this time around, they know who's in
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  Speaker 2: the door. There's no more shuffling around. Maybe that helps
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  Speaker 2: with some install some scheme install, but I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of question Marshall, Colorado, I've got them towards
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  Speaker 2: the bottom of the league.
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  Speaker 1: football season. Just a couple of tidbits from that book
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  Speaker 1: I've been relying on it for years now. Back to
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  Speaker 1: the utes. One of the really interesting things about this
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  Speaker 1: roster and this team you've got. You got two great quarterbacks, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Devin dan Pierre, the projected starter, the returning starter. Bird
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  Speaker 1: Fickland was a revelation last year, and he scored ten
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns for this team and had some really really great moments,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes filling in for Devon, other times as specialty packages
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  Speaker 1: and things like that. I'm not suggesting that any team
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  Speaker 1: in college football in twenty twenty six is gonna do
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  Speaker 1: like a two quarterback system, but if anyone is, or
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  Speaker 1: if anyone has reason to, Utah is gonna look at it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think happens with these quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely well. I think first with Devin dan Pierre,
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  Speaker 2: he's probably the most elusive quarterback within the pocket. It's
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  Speaker 2: impossible to get a finger on this guy, the way
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  Speaker 2: he can scramble, evade the pressures, extend the plays, and
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  Speaker 2: then when he does tucket and run, he's got lightning
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  Speaker 2: speed and he can score from anywhere on the field.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that he himself is one of the
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  Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the conference. And then at times last
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  Speaker 2: year we saw Fickland come in that was even more
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  Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle. I mean ten rushing touchdowns like
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  Speaker 2: you hit on a high eight yards per carry, almost
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  Speaker 2: a first down every time he runs the balls. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: And looking at some spring quotes, some summer quotes from
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  Speaker 2: those guys and the quarterback coaches over there, sounds like
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  Speaker 2: these guys don't mind sharing. It seems like they both
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  Speaker 2: want to play and they're it's okay with it. So
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  Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see some design packages again for Fickland.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe another year at the college level, maybe you'll get
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  Speaker 2: some more passing in there for him. You know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it'll work like a famous Tim Tebow and Leak combination
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  Speaker 2: back in Florida. But both these guys are elusive runners.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch them play, and knowing that
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  Speaker 2: you've got two of them, maybe you get a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more, a little bit more daring with some of
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  Speaker 2: the run packages with them. So I really like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a huge asset for the team.
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  Speaker 1: The wide receiver room has been over You get guys
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  Speaker 1: move on. You had a tight end get drafted and
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  Speaker 1: all these kinds of things, and you know, still the
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  Speaker 1: optimism is there. The quotes coming out of the coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff is like, Hey, this might be the best group
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  Speaker 1: of pass catchers we've had. And Morgan Scalley has been
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  Speaker 1: here for decades, so he's not comparing to a small
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  Speaker 1: sample size When he says things like that. It might
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  Speaker 1: be coach speak, but you've seen some of the production
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  Speaker 1: at San Jose State from Kyrie Scholz and Brandon Pagan
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  Speaker 1: at Utah State, and now they're coming into this Utah
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  Speaker 1: offense under a new coordinator and Kevin mcgiven, what do
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  Speaker 1: you expect from the passing game at Utah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's a big upgrade from last year.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, at other spots you might hear some
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  Speaker 2: coach speak, you might hear some some cheerleading almost where
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  Speaker 2: every year is their best year ever, right, But these
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  Speaker 2: quotes are rare to come out of Utah, and it
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  Speaker 2: reminds me of last year. A rare quote like that
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  Speaker 2: was Kyle Whittingham explaining that his offensive line last year
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  Speaker 2: was looking like his best he's ever had, and he's
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  Speaker 2: had twenty five five plus years at Utah, So that
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  Speaker 2: one that quote really stuck with me, and it was true.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they dominated in the lines of scrimmage last year,
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  Speaker 2: two first round picks off the line. So quotes like
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  Speaker 2: that they hold a lot of weight when they come
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  Speaker 2: out of a Utah staff. So so for Scalley to
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  Speaker 2: say that, I believe him. I believe what he's talking
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  Speaker 2: about here. And when you look at it, you got
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  Speaker 2: a pair of thousand yard potential receivers coming from the
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  Speaker 2: Mountain West. Both guys were all conference out there in
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  Speaker 2: the Mountain West, and of all the positions in football,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like receivers able to translate right away to
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  Speaker 2: when you step up from the Non AQ to the
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  Speaker 2: Power four. So I think both these guys are legit.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nice one to two punch to build around.
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  Speaker 2: You've got some four star kids on the roster coming back.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I think I'm going to take him
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  Speaker 2: at face value with that quote.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, as we're talking about kind of handicapping the big twelve,
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  Speaker 1: and you and I seem to be in agreement, there
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  Speaker 1: is there an obvious fourth or fifth or dark horse
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  Speaker 1: right behind at three at the top where you're like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, watch out for TCU watch out for Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: watch out for whoever.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting because every year I do the magazine, there's
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  Speaker 2: always a couple conferences or divisional spots where it's like
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  Speaker 2: a log jam of teams and it's really hard. I
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  Speaker 2: go all the way up to the deadline. This year
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, it was exactly the spot. The
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  Speaker 2: middle tier of the Big twelve is so condensed, so tight.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at TCU, Houston, Kansas State, the Arizona teams,
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  Speaker 2: UCF and Baylor, even Oklahoma State all fully revamped, so
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  Speaker 2: wide open pack. Ultimately, what I went with was TU
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  Speaker 2: at fourth. What I really like from them. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it was a quiet offseason. You don't you hear about
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  Speaker 2: transfer as a Texas Tech and coaching changes up elsewhere,
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  Speaker 2: But with TCU, it was quiet because they recruit really
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  Speaker 2: well on the high school level and then they retain
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  Speaker 2: and develop in house. So aside from Josh Uver, their quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't lose a single other starter for the portal,
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  Speaker 2: which is really rare in this era. And when you
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  Speaker 2: look at their high school rankings high school recruiting recognitions,
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  Speaker 2: say number one three straight years within the league, twenty
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  Speaker 2: three twenty four to twenty five. Those guys are now seniors,
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  Speaker 2: junior sophomores, the number one class in the conference every year.
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  Speaker 2: So I like the star power, the talent. It's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: very quietly, no one's talking about TCU, but I like
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  Speaker 2: them at fourth there. A lot does come down to
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  Speaker 2: their transfer quarterback from Harvard, but he's onto NFL Draft watchless,
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  Speaker 2: So I like this team to fly under the radar
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  Speaker 2: as a dark horse.
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  Speaker 1: Is the Big twelve a one bid league in the
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  Speaker 1: upcoming college football Playoff?
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  Speaker 2: I think it is, But really your best bet to
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  Speaker 2: get too in there is to pull an upset there
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  Speaker 2: on December second in the conference title game, get the
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  Speaker 2: auto bid for the underdog, and maybe have a twelve
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  Speaker 2: and one Texas Tech strong enough resume to get in
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  Speaker 2: at large. It reminds me of in March Madness, when
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  Speaker 2: you have those conference tournaments where you have a bid steeler,
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  Speaker 2: where a team goes in, gets the automatic bid and
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  Speaker 2: the loser is still good enough to make the bracket.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's your best bet because elsewhere, you know,
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  Speaker 2: besides that scenario, I just see a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: above averag teams all beating each other up during the
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  Speaker 2: regular season, like a lot of nine and three action
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  Speaker 2: ten and twos, which unfortunately we've seen ten and two
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  Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve is no guarantee, probably don't get
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So it's almost like you gotta have
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  Speaker 2: a pair of undefeated teams playing in December for the
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  Speaker 2: conference title game or you're gonna need a major upset
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  Speaker 2: in that in that game. So I'm gonna call for
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  Speaker 2: one that there's too many, that's too many what ifs
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  Speaker 2: for me. I'm just gonna say Texas Tech is the
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  Speaker 2: playoff team from the conference right now as we talk
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  Speaker 2: here in July.
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  Speaker 1: You've done a lot of work on this magazine and
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  Speaker 1: talking to coaches and seeing what the rosters look like.
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  Speaker 1: How many national championship contenders are there truly in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good question because as we've seen, once you
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  Speaker 2: get into the bracket in January, you can see who
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  Speaker 2: gets hot and uh and makes these surprise runs like
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody had Miami or Ole miss making
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  Speaker 2: such deep runs when the bracket came out and and
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  Speaker 2: they go out and do it. So that's a really
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  Speaker 2: tough question. I mean, I really I've organized my picked
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  Speaker 2: year to win it all. I think it's the year
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  Speaker 2: of the Duck. I've been calling for this to happen
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  Speaker 2: now with Oregon. But I'll draw the line around seven teams.
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  Speaker 2: I'll call it seven as we sit here. I like
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  Speaker 2: Oregon and Ohio State from the big ten. I really
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  Speaker 2: like Miami. They upgraded a quarterback with Darian Mensa. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a vertical passing attack even more than
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  Speaker 2: last year. Notre Dame's your pick. If you like returning starters,
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  Speaker 2: that's your metric you look at the most because they
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  Speaker 2: bring back the whole team from last year, aside from
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  Speaker 2: the running backs. And then you got your sec field.
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  Speaker 2: Who's going to emerge out of these teams? You got Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas,
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  Speaker 2: Old Miss was in the playoff last year. LSU is
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  Speaker 2: the storyline of the whole offseason with Lane Kiffin. And
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  Speaker 2: we didn't even touch on Alabama. So yeah, I'll draw
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  Speaker 2: the liner on seven teams. But really I'm looking at
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  Speaker 2: that top four. I really like Oregon, Ohio State, Miami,
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  Speaker 2: and Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So again I don't disagree seven, eight, maybe ten
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  Speaker 1: on the outside teams, And yet We're still talking about
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  Speaker 1: expanding college football playoff, but we don't none of us.
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  Speaker 1: I truly believe there are twenty four or thirty two
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  Speaker 1: or sixteen teams that are really national championship contenders. Do
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  Speaker 1: we eventually get a bigger field?
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  Speaker 2: I hope not. Sean. To be honest with you, I'm
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  Speaker 2: really I love the regular season, and I like to
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  Speaker 2: say this for those that want the expanded twenty four
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  Speaker 2: team playoff, we already have it. It's called November. All
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  Speaker 2: these key matchups in November, that's where everyone the cream
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  Speaker 2: rises to the top. You have these games where the
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  Speaker 2: teams are eight and O versus eight O and you're
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  Speaker 2: knocking each other out. You keep going and going and going.
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  Speaker 2: By the time you get to December, it's pretty obvious
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  Speaker 2: who the title contenders are. And we've already proved it
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: on the field for the most part. So I know
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: there were some tough cases, like BYU was left out
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: last year, but they did lose to Texas Tech twice
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: by twenty plus points. They had their two chances and
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: got blown out twice by a playoff team. So you know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: I like how it is with twelve. I would like
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: it more with eight. I would even love to go
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: back to four in some cases, maybe change how the
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: teams are selected. I don't really trust the committee being
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: involved with all these you know, athletic departments and TV deals.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: So if there was some kind of like a BCS
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: formula with an eight team bracket, I think you could
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: get to a perfect scenario. But anyways, I don't work
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: for TV companies, so I don't have the revenue of
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: mind like they do. It's a whole different ballgame. I'd
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: rather stay where we're at. I don't want to double it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I think that'd be crazy.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I know you are jam packed with these interview requests.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: It's that time of year for you. I want to
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: respect your time, so I'm gonna let you go. Brett,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing all the work on
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: this magazine. Thanks for joining us. We'll check in again
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: at some point during the season, all.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Right, Oh for sure, we'd love to Thanks for having me.
• 16:35
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• 16:44
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• 16:48
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• 16:52
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• 16:55
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• 16:58
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