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MotoGP Malaysia 2025 Round 20 Recap in S5 Ep 37 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  You're listening to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45 and it's Monday night and we got to talk
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  about some motorcycle racing, some Moto GPA, little bit of
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  world super bike and all the insurance and outs of that.
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  Before we dive into the previous round in Malaysia, let's bring
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  the guys in and introduce them one at a time.
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  TJ, man, welcome to the show. How you doing tonight man?
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  Hanging in there, got my hoodie on.
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  The weather's getting cold up here, like as usual.
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  Our Patriots are 6 and 2, so we're winning, you know, And
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  Moto GPS had a good weekend, but you know, race is coming to an
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  end soon. But just enjoying what I can.
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  Yeah, I think I got to make fun of the Patriots a little bit
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  more, man, because it seems like the more I keep talking about
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  them and they they keep winning. I can't believe they're six and
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  two and I, I suspect a lot, a lot of the other teams believe
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  it's two either. So who do you know?
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  I guess you guys must be excited up north.
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  Oh yeah, we're inside. I mean, it's the system, right?
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  That's how we, you know, in New England we, we root for just
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  basically one team, you know, other states got different teams
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  to choose from. So we kind of die hard.
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  We got a system we go by so. You know you're being, you know,
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  you know, you're being kind when you say New England.
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  Cause you know, people in Boston just, we just see, we, we say
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  Boston teams, they don't really say younger teams.
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  Yeah, yeah, kind. Of Boston on Mass, they don't
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  want to say. New England, I was, I was being
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  a little generous, but yeah, Boston, I think we we only even
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  from Boston. So no, no doubt, no doubt.
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  Well, let's keep it rolling, man.
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  We got a pretty good show planned for tonight.
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  Very excited for tonight. Let's bring Reese in the
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  building, man. What's going on, man?
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  Welcome back to the States, you know, did you, did you learn a
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  lot? Oh, yeah, man, we did.
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  We learned a lot. I learned a lot.
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  It was great to be over there, you know?
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  Great to be home, man. That's all you could say.
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  I don't know about the Patriots. I don't know about them
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  Patriots, man. I'll stay with my eagles over
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  there. You know, even I live in
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  Florida. I'll stay with my Eagles.
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  All right well, listen man, you know y'all, y'all are getting
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  them shipped so I mean you know y'all, y'all, y'all invited to
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  the party now, so let's see how long you can stay but you're.
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  Fighting to the party, we fighting all y'all to the party
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  man, we fighting all y'all. Welcome to our party.
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  Well, you know, hey, listen, as long as it's a good party.
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  But we will find out, right? Exactly, man, Exactly.
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  No doubt. Lewis, man, the real Louis
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  Ortega, man, What's going on? Man, How are things?
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  Good, good. What's going on?
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  How was your weekend? Oh man, my weekend was a pretty
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  good, I have to say. I'm my daughter had a tennis
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  tournament this weekend. So it was, it was exciting to
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  see her play and see her growth and stuff like that.
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  And you know, to see the competition at that age.
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  So I can't complain, man. But how about yourself, man?
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  Did you get a chance to just relax and and drink some
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  lemonade? No, no, I don't.
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  Even when I'm not working, like I've got so many other things
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  going on. It's just hard to like sit down,
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  relax and just have like that time off.
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  I try to have time off, but it's just hard to idle hands.
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  I, you know, I can't be in my house and not be like, oh, you
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  know what? This weekend I think I'm going
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  to fix this. So let me take a run at Home
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  Depot. Let me go to Lowe's.
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  Let me you know, I was telling myself I should not leave the
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  house because every time I leave the house it cost me money.
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  Got you. I feel listen, I feel you.
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  Sometimes I feel like I just move the stuff around in the
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  garage sometimes, man. But you know, I'm I'm excited to
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  talk about motorcycle racing this week tonight and this week
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  because it's it's been a crazy year so far.
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  I welcome everyone. But before we go, let's talk a
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  little bit about, you know, the Moto 3 riders that got hurt,
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  Rhoda and Dettweiler. You know, I thought we were
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  going to get away with this season with nothing too crazy.
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  So far. It seems like they're they're
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  stable. Well, they're alive and stable,
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  which is great. You know, we start with TJ.
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  What are your thoughts on on I don't know if you had a chance
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  to see the accident. What are your thoughts on it?
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  And and you know, like I said, you know, me guys have been
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  breaking bones and getting scratched up here and there, but
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  it's nothing as serious as this where they've had to get Med
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  lifted in Moto GP and all other classes.
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  I'm sure around the world, you know, people get hurt in, in
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  motorcycle racing and stuff like that.
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  What? What are your thoughts DJ?
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  Yeah, condolences to the friends and family, to those two guys.
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  I mean, they're, they're young, young guys, you know, and it's
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  just unfortunate to have something like that happen.
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  You know, it's very unexpected and it's very serious to get
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  airlifted from from the track. You know, it's also really good
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  to have that that safety behind you, you know, like just ready
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  and available. Really hope they're OK.
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  I mean, I heard that one of them is in stable but kind of
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  critical condition. So I haven't heard really much
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  of the other one. I did not see what happened.
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  I mean, granted, from where we are, we actually could have
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  watched it live because it's actually during the hours of,
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  you know, being up, but being. Up.
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  Come on man. Yeah, yeah, you know, but, you
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  know, I, I missed it. And when I they cut it, they cut
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  it off in the Moto GP. So, but I really hope they're
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  OK. And it is hard for all the other
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  riders to like, you know, go back out there and do that
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  thing. So hats out to all those guys
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  who still performed and put in, put in the race.
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  After seeing what happened, I think what is about an hour and
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  a half delay or something like that.
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  So yeah, yeah. But what I can tell is something
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  like something crazy and again, and I was catching up in in, you
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  know, after the fact because I didn't watch it right away.
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  You know, I took a nap and, and, and kind of missed it, which is
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  crazy. You know, let's, let's, we'll
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  jump to Reece. Reece, what are your thoughts?
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  I mean, you know, you, you, this is what you do full time and
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  stuff like that. Normally we don't see these
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  horrific incidents. You know, how, how, how does the
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  team deal with stuff like that? I mean, nobody wants their
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  rider, you know, their family member, they get hurt.
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  I mean, we're all like a big family there.
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  So nobody wants that. You know, we all want to at the
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  end of the day, you know, break bread at the end of the day, go
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  to dinner and, you know, live the fight on to another day.
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  I mean, so it's kind of heartbreaking.
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  You know, prayers go out to that family and to both those
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  families. But you know, you know, I, I
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  wish them all well and hopefully, you know, a good
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  speedy recovery. I know it's going to be a long
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  road of recovery for them. And then, like you said, they
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  were young kids. You know, that's, that's make it
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  even worse if they're young, But being young, we all know that,
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  you know, you can kind of heal quicker than that's old dogs.
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  So, you know, us bouncing like that, we we might not get back
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  up, but you know, but at the end of the day, you know, us being
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  as a team, you know, we see our riders go down and we, we kind
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  of hold if it's a kind of like a bad wreck, we kind of hold our
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  breath until you see them kind of bounce back up and give that
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  thumbs up saying we're OK. And, you know, being airlifted
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  is nobody wants to be airlifted out of a out of the, the racing
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  because you see that airlift come out and then, you know,
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  it's something serious and I'm critical.
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  Now we're all rushed to the hospital to make sure that
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  person is OK. So.
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  Right, right. No, no doubt there, man.
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  It's it it's it's I think the good part of this our sport is
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  that, you know, the level of a medical kit that's available to
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  us trackside is is is the best it's been, I think since folks
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  have been racing motorcycles or or anything else.
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  You know, Louis, you know, what are your thoughts on on the
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  incident? And also, you know, how how you
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  know, how do you think riders pull themselves together back,
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  pull themselves together to go back out there and compete,
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  knowing this is in the back of their mind?
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  Because, you know, we could be as Superman as we would like to
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  be. It's hard to sometimes to just
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  shut that off, that section off for a period of time and go out
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  there and give it everything you got.
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  Well, first I want to give my well wishes to both riders.
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  I want to, you know, hopefully they'll have a speedy recovery,
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  get out of the hospital, get back to their families.
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  Like Reece said, you know, there is a benefit to being young in
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  this sport. You tend to bounce back from
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  serious injury a little bit better than somebody.
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  I mean, somebody our age would bounce back.
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  With that said, I mean, I hate that it happened in Malaysia
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  because we already have some really bad memories as racing
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  fans of Malaysia. Malaysia is not a beloved track
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  in the in the minds of a lot of people that, you know, know, the
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  history of that track and what it took from us as racing, as a
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  racing community. You know, I still relive that
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  particular day all the time because it's it's I'm one of
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  those guys that likes to watch the racing live.
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  So I either stay up late or wake up early to watch it and to
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  watch this live and to have watch what happened with
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  Smocelli live it, you know, it, it was kind of like a cool
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  reminder of how beautiful our sport is, but how tragically
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  beautiful it is. You know, it's one of the things
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  that makes a sport great is every time you put your helmet
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  on, you really living life to the fullest.
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  But you might go, you know, it's living life to the fullest,
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  comes with a cost sometimes. So I hope both these riders get
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  better soon, bounce back. I think that the way Moto GP
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  handled it overall was understandable because in this
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  situation, I mean, I hate to say the show has to go on.
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  You've got 190 something, 1000 people there.
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  You've got TV stations waiting for you to go live.
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  You know, it's, it's a cool part of the sport, but you have to
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  keep going. You have to, you know, move
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  things around. But the show has to go on.
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  From what I understand and what some of the riders are saying in
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  GP is that they got very little information about the riders
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  throughout the course of the day because they didn't want to
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  influence anything or make riders decide not to ride or
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  maybe protest or, you know, when something tragic happens, there
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  are times when they just shut it down.
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  And for whatever reason, I guess that's why Moto GP didn't share
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  with the Moto GP guys and the show went on.
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  But you could tell throughout the day, Moto 2 and Moto GP,
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  like it wasn't the same celebratory, high energy kind of
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  thing going on. There was like a little bit of a
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  somber undertone because again, I mean, these are young guys,
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  these, you know, these, these are not guys you expect to see
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  getting airlifted away. I just hope that they they both
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  come out of this OK And and I want to see them keep riding,
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  you know, especially, you know, two young guys, one guy that was
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  just crown champion. What is it?
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  A week, A week ago? Two weeks ago?
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  Yeah, yeah, I think I forget which round I got to check.
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  I don't. I think it was Japan.
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  I. Japan, so like 2 weeks ago or
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  three weeks ago. Yeah.
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  But again, this just crown champion and, you know, just
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  goes to show you how quickly things can turn on a dime.
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  And you have to take advantage of every moment you have.
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  I always tell people every every day that I go out, you know, I
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  always make sure I, you know, say hi, kiss the family and
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  always keep my loved ones. And my thought because you never
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  know, the next time you walk out that door might be the last time
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  you walk out that door. Yeah, so.
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  Yeah. So I just hope everybody keeps
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  these guys and their thoughts and their prayers and I think
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  we're going to see them back. You know, these these these two
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  you guys are are built like nails.
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  Yeah, I mean, you kind of have to be to be a motorcycle racer.
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  You might not be 1 when you start, but by the time they
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  finish. By nails, or you're held
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  together by nails and screws and bolts and plates.
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  I got one, just one, so hopefully you know, I won't get
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  any more, but you never know. But you know, it is motorcycle
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  racing and and we got to move on.
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  As you say, the show must go on. We'll we'll put Reese on the hot
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  table. So guys, if you have any
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  questions for him about his travels, see.
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  Dunlap sucks to see. Go ahead, start, go hot.
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  Go hot in the paint right now. There you go, Reese.
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  What feedback do you have to give us folks here in America on
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  how what racing is like and can you now go back to the paddock
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  in the US? I could say racing over there is
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  it is tough, man. Everyone thinks it's very easy.
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  And it's like you see all the comments and you know, we don't
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  have, we don't have riders that can compete and you know,
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  there's nobody that can compete. I mean, those guys are, you
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  know, 10,000 of seconds off. It's like it's, it's crazy speed
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  and craziness. I mean, it's, it's absolutely
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  insane on those the, the brake, the how much brake pressure
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  those guys are actually using. It's actually crazy on what
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  they're doing, I mean. They're, when you say crazy in
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  the sense of a little pressure or a lot of pressure.
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  A lot of pressure, man. It's a lot.
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  It's, it's, it's down to the, you know, one thousandth of a
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  second. I mean, this, if you would look
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  at the top ten guys, they're all relatively right there and
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  they're like, how the hell are they so far back?
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  But it's just like it's it's insane that that, that, that
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  what they can do over there. And we're not.
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  I mean, Bobby was picking up pace on us on her rez.
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  I mean, he did very well on her rez and he was like, oh, he
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  didn't do well. But if you look at the, if you
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  look at the the speeds and the times, we were right there, OK.
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  So what you're saying, what you're saying to Lewis is Alex
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  Slows is really fast. Yeah, you got to say, man, those
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  guys are fast. I'm not saying.
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  He's not fast. I'm just saying you got to
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  finish a race, the winner race, and those brothers tend to
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  finish a lot of races in the crash truck.
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  So they do, I mean, but they're literally on.
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  They're literally on the edge every lap.
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  Like they're on the edge every lap, every corner.
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  And they're using the front, their front brakes more than
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  everything, really. Yeah.
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  I mean look at top rag. Top rag always get back from
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  wheel up. I mean the back wheel up.
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  Yo, I think I've seen every guy with their back wheel up, every
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  guy with their back wheel up. I'm like Jesus Christ.
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  And, and So what does that mean? Like the team, because I like we
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  have mentioned before you went over, you know, last year Gillum
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  got to go, but it was just him, the whole team came over.
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  Maybe not not all at once. Like, you know, on the, when
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  it's all said and done, like, you know, how, how, how does a
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  team come together and, and, and say, hey, what did we just
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  witness and how do we incorporate it into what we're
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  trying to do here in the US? Or is it something that's not
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  easy to to bring over? I mean, you got to realize
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  they're the biggest factor. And as Lou will tell you, the
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  biggest factor is the the tires. The tires is the biggest factor.
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  They got so much grip. I mean, there's so much grip on
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  the Pirellis. There's so much feeling, so much
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  feedback with the Pirellis. A lot of guys love them.
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  I mean, I, I didn't hear anything really negative on the
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  Pirellis at all. So that is the biggest factor of
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  racing is the tires. You know, with Dunlops here we
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  have, I mean we don't have what they have.
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  So that's, and then the tracks are kind of little bit similar,
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  but not too far and they have a lot more run off, you know, a
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  lot different straightaways and it's a little bit they're,
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  they're actually a little bit wider.
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  So, so you're they're better our tracks.
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  Our. Tracks, our tracks suck.
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  Their tracks suck. Like the one thing that I see,
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  and maybe you can now that you've been to these tracks,
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  cause I've seen a couple of the tracks overseas, is the tracks
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  overseas tend to focus heavily on the crash areas and putting
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  Kitty litter or rocks or something else that slows the
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  bike and slows the rider down when they crash in those high
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  speed zones. Whereas here, if you look at a
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  lot of the tracks that we race in the US, we have a lot of
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  grass runoff. Right.
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  And we've talked about it, and we talked about it a little bit
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  last week. Grass runoff tends to destroy
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  bikes versus gravel, and Kitty litter tends to slow the bikes
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  down more often than not, so the bikes don't flip ridiculously.
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  Whereas here in the US, our bikes seem to be practicing for
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  like Cirque du Soleil every weekend.
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  Right. I mean, once you as you know,
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  Louis, I mean once that that foot peg a bar in anything, once
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  they're grabbing that that dirt, it's over.
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  It's going to it's going to head over in.
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  But if you notice in the Kitty litter, it comes in and it
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  actually slows it down and just small tilt over unless you know,
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  unless they're already sliding in into the Kitty litter and
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  then it gets caught. Now it's going over.
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  So do you think the tracks in Europe overall are safer than
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  what we have here in the US when you compare it track to track?
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  I mean, obviously you're in some of the best tracks.
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  You're not on the on the back lot tracks where most of these
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  guys are training, but on the bigger tracks.
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  If you had to compare the 2 tracks you went to minus CODA,
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  which for me is the only world class track we have in the US
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  right now, how would you compare that to like a Rd.
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  Atlanta or a VIR or a New Jersey?
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  Death. So OK, so we got to feel good at
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  Loudon then, huh? Loudon's death doubled down.
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  That is it not gold. I'm going to sit here.
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  I'll watch you guys. Y'all go ahead.
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  I'm going to sit on this. I'm going to sit this one out.
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  And how about the crowds? Because that's one of the things
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  that I've always noticed is the European crowds are bigger, more
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  engaged. Like how was the crowd?
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  Because one of the things that we've noticed is World Tour Bike
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  has a much lower attendance than Moto GC, right?
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  But the Moto. America how do you compare the
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  crowds? You know, it's funny and they
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  were talking about it because I didn't like I said, I didn't get
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  to ethereal, but the crowds that they have are the same kind of
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  crowds that we almost have like as in Rd.
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  America, Laguna, like Rd. Atlanta, you know, for what the
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  facility can hold, you're almost in that same realm.
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  Got you. So you think it's more of the
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  facility that that's kind of hampering the crowd situation
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  and if they were at least, you know, more important EP tracks?
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  No, I mean, but you got to think about it.
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  Those guys over there, they don't have what we have here in
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  America. But we don't.
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  We have football, baseball, basketball.
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  We have all types of sports. Their big thing is Motorsports.
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  So when Motorsports comes out, they're like, we're gonna go
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  watch. This is like their big hurrah,
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  right? Right.
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  So that's where they're coming now they're they're, they're
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  born and bred that from from birth.
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  So yeah, I got a question for you.
• 19:40
  So, yeah, knowing that attack Yamaha and Moto America has
• 19:44
  been, you know, at the top for a while and you know, you have the
• 19:48
  championships the way, but knowing you're knowing you're at
• 19:52
  the top and Bobby going over over there and and you know,
• 19:56
  it's not like it's a reality check.
• 19:58
  He kind of knew where he was going to stand.
• 19:59
  But actually seeing the competition, like what can you
• 20:02
  take from there to like bring back to that to try to improve
• 20:06
  even though you guys are still top level?
• 20:09
  I mean, you can improve on certain things you can prove on
• 20:11
  it, like Bobby, he can improve on writing skills, But like it
• 20:15
  was nice when you know, you're seeing top right come into the
• 20:18
  into your garage and telling Bobby, Hey, come follow me, you
• 20:22
  know, and getting that kind of experience, you know, following
• 20:26
  Lockatelli and Johnny Ray, you know, seeing different brake
• 20:30
  markers, seeing how much brake pressure, how hard you can get
• 20:33
  on the brakes and different kind of riding styles and how
• 20:37
  aggressive those guys can be. You can take that kind of
• 20:41
  attributes that they have and bring it back to the States.
• 20:43
  And I mean, if you actually notice, if you go back when did
• 20:49
  Cam, like when Cam was with Yamaha to when he went to Moto
• 20:54
  2, then when he came back, you can actually notice Cam now rise
• 20:59
  with his elbows out and he he never rolled his elbows out.
• 21:05
  Now he rides with the elbows out a lot more and poking them out
• 21:08
  and he's a little bit more aggressive getting in there, but
• 21:11
  he's still kind of that nice guy, but he's a little bit more
• 21:14
  aggressive now. So you can bring that attributes
• 21:18
  back and kind of take that. Right.
• 21:20
  And, and, and do you think 2 rounds is enough?
• 21:24
  I mean, it, it, you know, kind of thing or you do you have to
• 21:27
  take what you get kind of thing. But do you think it'd be it
• 21:30
  would have been nice to have more rounds?
• 21:34
  Yes and no. It's a lot of work, man.
• 21:38
  It's a It's a hell of a lot of work trying to did you?
• 21:41
  Drive the lorry, I said. Did you drive the lorry?
• 21:45
  Nah, it's a lot of work from literally packing, from packing
• 21:51
  the the crates from leaving Jersey and then like staying up.
• 21:55
  I think we were packing on Sunday night.
• 21:58
  I think we packed till like 9:00, race was over till like
• 22:02
  what, 5-3? We were done.
• 22:05
  We didn't get out of there till like 930 on Jersey on a Sunday
• 22:09
  and then they still had to finish up on Monday before the
• 22:12
  crates left two guys. So yeah, no, we're good.
• 22:17
  Take two, take 2. OK.
• 22:21
  That's what's up. That's up before we move into
• 22:24
  Moto GP. Any other questions for for
• 22:26
  Reece before we move on guys? I'll probably think of something
• 22:30
  by the end of the show. Oh no, Lewis he will because you
• 22:33
  know him and his track questions and one say the tracks fuck
• 22:38
  here, yes, they do. Compared to that Lewis they do
• 22:41
  man are their tracks are better. All sets It's.
• 22:44
  All about the measurements. It's it's all about the, the
• 22:48
  definitely. So let's move into Moto GP.
• 22:51
  The you know, Bagnaya won the Sprint, Alex Marquez won the,
• 22:57
  the main race. What you guys think of of of
• 23:00
  that? I have my opinions.
• 23:03
  I guess I'll share after the fact.
• 23:04
  I don't want I don't want to taint you guys thoughts by by
• 23:07
  throwing them out up front, but you know, you know that I don't
• 23:10
  want to say they're blasts from the past, right, But it seems
• 23:13
  like it because, you know, we we after the summer break, we've
• 23:17
  had this period of other manufacturers and we still
• 23:20
  seeing it, you know, we still seeing it.
• 23:22
  But you know, these guys obviously one had injuries and
• 23:26
  mark, I mean Pekko bike was, you know, giving them more problems.
• 23:31
  You know, when Pekko won Japan, I asked it was a fluke.
• 23:35
  You guys kind of said, yeah, well, Lewis, we'll, we'll throw
• 23:39
  Lewis under out there. But no, it was a fluke.
• 23:42
  He he he did when the the the Sprint.
• 23:46
  And if he didn't have a flat tire, from what we can tell, he
• 23:49
  might have finished third or second in the GP race.
• 23:53
  So they're figuring something out there.
• 23:55
  But what do you what do you guys thoughts?
• 23:56
  We go with TJ. We.
• 23:59
  We talking we talking about Pekko here.
• 24:02
  I'm just saying they both got to win.
• 24:04
  I mean, it's weird that I'll say this.
• 24:07
  It's weird how Moto GP has the Sprint and the GP, but it seems
• 24:13
  like the Sprint is like the wicked step sister.
• 24:17
  It's it's like they like, it's like they win, but it's not a
• 24:20
  win because. I mean, I'm surprised Petco
• 24:24
  actually got a win on the Sprint because he doesn't like the
• 24:27
  Sprint. But it was actually good to see
• 24:29
  him very decent and actually, you know, all the way up to the
• 24:34
  qualifying, he wasn't doing that well and it's surprising that he
• 24:38
  actually got pulled. So for him to start in the front
• 24:45
  row, I mean, you know, it's probably getting back to his
• 24:49
  always a little different. I think he definitely deserved
• 24:51
  that Sprint. But going into the GPI mean,
• 24:55
  yeah, he might have a puncture flat, but I mean, I feel like
• 24:59
  he's still playing the safe. I mean, I've seen top rack ride
• 25:02
  a wheel off a rim. So like he needs to just he had
• 25:06
  three laps left, man. Like you gotta you just don't
• 25:08
  pull over. But I I mean, I guess it was
• 25:11
  just super flat. I don't know.
• 25:13
  But I don't know, it's just maybe reflecting on his efforts
• 25:16
  lately. It just shows that he's kind of
• 25:18
  giving up. I don't know, But yeah, I mean.
• 25:23
  And effort giving up. I listen.
• 25:25
  I mean, you know, I've, I've, I've been, as you guys know, I I
• 25:28
  try to be a fierce supporter of all the writers.
• 25:32
  But you. You.
• 25:32
  Yeah. Right.
• 25:33
  You think Pekko is lacking effort?
• 25:36
  My goodness. I mean, they, they, they, they
• 25:39
  were saying that he needs to ride around his problems, you
• 25:41
  know, like everyone is going through the same thing.
• 25:43
  Everyone's got the same tires, you know, and he's just, is
• 25:49
  just, he's kept, it felt like he's just giving up.
• 25:52
  Like, like Greece doesn't like to hear the writers say, you
• 25:56
  know, go show me how to get these lap times since you think
• 25:58
  that can go faster. What do you say?
• 26:02
  What do you got to say, Reese, about the efforts of of Alex?
• 26:06
  Because I mean, TJ didn't touch on Alex yet, but Alex's effort
• 26:10
  and Pekko's effort, he, you know, I mean, and I think did
• 26:13
  Alex crash out of the of the spring?
• 26:15
  I don't know. I got to check, but what are
• 26:17
  your thoughts on those two guys? I mean, I say on Alex, Alex's
• 26:20
  effort, you know, in, in the race itself was great.
• 26:24
  I mean, he checked out. I mean, that's what he was
• 26:26
  supposed to do. I mean, he he checked himself
• 26:28
  out. I don't remember if he did crash
• 26:30
  out in the Sprint race. I couldn't remember right now.
• 26:33
  But I know with Pekka, you know, as Louis says, you know, hold my
• 26:38
  beer, you know, I got this. But.
• 26:42
  Alex finished second in the Sprint, so there we go.
• 26:45
  So I mean that right there tells you his efforts.
• 26:49
  I mean, he he, he had, but you got to look at it and and TJ
• 26:54
  said the best. We all they all have their
• 26:57
  problems, right? Every rider has their problems.
• 26:59
  Can you ride around the problems because you want you can't have
• 27:03
  a a perfect bite. You can't have a a perfect
• 27:05
  setup. You got to have at least a 90 or
• 27:07
  85% something, you know, in the realm.
• 27:11
  But he's he's one guy that wants a perfect bite And he ever
• 27:14
  noticed if he gets out front and gets clean air track, then he
• 27:18
  does good. But when he's behind somebody or
• 27:21
  whatever, I can't do this. I can't do that.
• 27:24
  I can't. I'm like, man, if you don't stop
• 27:26
  bitching and pull your pants up and just ride the damn bike like
• 27:28
  I'm at that point. You know, Lorenzo, I mean, you
• 27:32
  know, I mean, you know, oh, hey, Lorenzo is similar to that.
• 27:35
  He was out front and he'll, he'll, he'll kind of do the same
• 27:37
  thing. But if you have to fight, you
• 27:40
  didn't. You didn't know how it was going
• 27:41
  to turn out. Right.
• 27:42
  He just can't. It seemed like he always had
• 27:44
  problems and he's got to fight. But if I seen him once he got
• 27:47
  out front, I said, oh, he's gone, he's going to check out.
• 27:49
  He's got clear track. That's his normal game.
• 27:51
  If you get clear track in front of him, he can check out.
• 27:53
  But if there is someone in front of him, that's it's like a
• 27:56
  mental thing. He's like, oh, I can't catch
• 27:58
  them. I can't do this, I can't.
• 28:00
  So it's like a mental thing with him, like a mental block.
• 28:03
  OK, I mean my, my I could, I could, you know, we'll see the
• 28:07
  Louis, what are your thoughts, man, on on these guys?
• 28:11
  You know, it's, you know, got, we got 2 rounds left after this
• 28:14
  and you know, we were we were I on the on who's going to win
• 28:19
  that we post on YouTube. We didn't have any of the faves
• 28:23
  on there. And so I was thinking it was
• 28:24
  going to be Raul or Aldeguir or Acosta or, you know, Bazecki,
• 28:29
  one of these guys. But you know, these guys, they
• 28:32
  don't need a contract at the moment.
• 28:35
  So. No, I think, I think this
• 28:38
  weekend overall Aperia had a had a rough weekend.
• 28:40
  If you look at the overall results from all the Aperia
• 28:43
  riders, they didn't, they weren't shining, let's put it
• 28:46
  that way. I think their top finish this
• 28:48
  weekend was Bizecki and the Sprint.
• 28:51
  And then after that, you know, the tumble from where Bizecki
• 28:55
  was at downward was pretty steep, you know.
• 29:01
  So Aprilia, this, this wasn't their track.
• 29:03
  This wasn't their weekend, whether it was the heat or
• 29:06
  something, just wasn't working. And Alex, Alex had a solid
• 29:10
  weekend with a one and two between the two races.
• 29:13
  Acosta had a solid weekend, even though he had to go back to his
• 29:16
  garage and pretty much tell him, turn all the electronic stuff
• 29:20
  off. Let me just ride the bike with
• 29:22
  my hands, man. And it worked out for him.
• 29:25
  Like the dude is able to, you know, was able to ride
• 29:28
  considering that they turned down all the electronics,
• 29:30
  according to what the media is saying, because he was having so
• 29:33
  many problems with the setup of the bike.
• 29:36
  And then as far as Petco, I think his problem is he's trying
• 29:39
  too hard now because he was the only rider that opted to go with
• 29:44
  a different compound tire. He was hoping that the, the,
• 29:47
  the, the race would come to him later on in the race.
• 29:50
  Like he's doing all this extra stuff, either trying to
• 29:53
  compensate for something he's not feeling good with the bike
• 29:56
  or whatever it is. I mean, he had a solid Sprint
• 29:59
  and sprints are great wins. I mean, a wins AWSAW, even if
• 30:02
  it's a half W, it's still, you know, AW, but he's got a, he's
• 30:06
  got to put it together on Sunday more than anything else.
• 30:09
  And I, I thought that with mark out of the picture for the next
• 30:13
  3 rounds, he might be the guy to, to focus on because now the
• 30:18
  team is giving him 100% attention.
• 30:20
  He has to be the guy that gets everything he needs, you know,
• 30:23
  as soon as he gets in the garage.
• 30:25
  What is it you need? Let's get it done because you
• 30:27
  need to be our top guy out there.
• 30:29
  And Mark, you know, and Alex is still, you know, another Marquez
• 30:32
  is still taking the school. Right.
• 30:34
  Yeah. I, I, I, I, I was, I was a
• 30:37
  little bit shocked at the medium and in the beginning in the
• 30:41
  struggles and stuff like that because he, I mean, he was doing
• 30:43
  everything possible to keep Acosta at Bay.
• 30:47
  But you know, I mean, if, if he would have got a second or third
• 30:50
  place, it wouldn't have been a bad weekend.
• 30:51
  I mean, you know, it's and, and unfortunately with a, with a
• 30:55
  tire, you can't. I mean, who are you going to
• 30:56
  blame? I don't know, some.
• 30:59
  Somehow the VR 46 people are going to say Alex put a
• 31:03
  thumbtack out there. Some they have to blame the
• 31:05
  Marquez brother. I got the VR46.
• 31:09
  I mean, you know, Petco's on the factory team.
• 31:12
  Why can't it be somebody from from the factory team like his
• 31:15
  sister? He gave my boy Joanne Mayor
• 31:21
  podium so. Hey Honda.
• 31:23
  Honda got back on the box again. Listen, you know get on the box
• 31:28
  of crash, right? I'll tell you what, they know
• 31:30
  how to celebrate in that garage, man.
• 31:33
  Twice in what is it, 4-4 weeks, 5 weeks they've been on the box
• 31:37
  and they celebrate like it's like they're coming.
• 31:41
  Like they're satellite team. Stop playing, Yeah.
• 31:45
  Like yeah, remember the CRT teams?
• 31:47
  Not even the satellite team. And you went way back to the
• 31:51
  CRT. You know, yeah, it, it's, it,
• 31:55
  it, it was, it was good to see those guys race.
• 31:58
  I, I think the, you know, after the last round and even the
• 32:02
  round before that, I, I think we were expecting a little bit
• 32:04
  more, but it seems like the heat got in the got in the way for a
• 32:08
  lot of riders and, and a lot of riders struggled with that heat.
• 32:12
  There's a lot of crashing. There was a lot of hard crashing
• 32:14
  and stuff like that. You know, let's talk about KTMI
• 32:21
  guess because you know, you like, like Lewis said, Acosta
• 32:24
  turned off the electric, got the electronics turned off and was
• 32:28
  able to do something. But you know, what's going on
• 32:31
  with these other riders that you know, that they, they, they
• 32:35
  can't find their way, so to speak, You know, I mean, you
• 32:38
  know, Bashin, he's doing what he's doing coming through the
• 32:42
  field and stuff like that. But you're not going to win any
• 32:44
  championships or anything like that.
• 32:46
  What are your thoughts on we're we're KTM outside of Acosta?
• 32:49
  Because I mean, he's been, I mean, he's looking for that win.
• 32:51
  So he might be doing, you know, as much as Bagnaya, but he's
• 32:57
  not, he's having better luck, so to speak.
• 32:59
  I mean, he may disagree because there's a couple of crashes that
• 33:02
  took him out of the podium. What are your thoughts on KTM?
• 33:05
  I mean, from from the start of the year, I mean all the news
• 33:09
  that they got and just not having a full team, like you
• 33:12
  need to have a full team, you know, like your leader also has
• 33:15
  to be out there. Like Maverick was pretty much
• 33:18
  helping them and giving them direction.
• 33:20
  I felt like when they were struggling and for their ups and
• 33:24
  downs and they just can't be consistent.
• 33:26
  Like some reason I don't understand, like, like Brad
• 33:30
  Bender is a good writer, but like, he's not helping much at
• 33:34
  all. Like I don't see him helping any
• 33:37
  situation. He's always in the back of the
• 33:39
  pack. Like Pedro's putting in the
• 33:40
  work. He's always screaming, showing,
• 33:43
  showing his emotion and, you know, fascinating.
• 33:47
  He has his first time on KTM, but he's just always in the
• 33:51
  back. So it's like very inconsistent.
• 33:53
  There's some weekends if they're good, some weekends, most
• 33:56
  weekends they're bad. And they still have a full
• 33:58
  squad. So it's just, I don't right now,
• 34:00
  I feel like the two guys, Brad and and Ed just trying to just
• 34:04
  finish the year, just see what happens next year.
• 34:08
  I don't feel like they can, I don't know what what they really
• 34:11
  can improve going forward. Obviously they can try to
• 34:13
  improve, but they just they just don't see it.
• 34:16
  All right, all right, Reese for your thoughts on KTM.
• 34:19
  And I mean, you know, I know Brad I think got one more year
• 34:23
  on his contract. I think he had like a three-year
• 34:24
  contract. I mean, is it time for Brad to
• 34:27
  find a new, a new, a new team change of pace, you know, for
• 34:32
  for 2027? It might be time for Brad to
• 34:36
  find a new series and head over to the World Super Bike.
• 34:39
  I think that's possible, but I agree with TJ 100%.
• 34:44
  I mean, you need your guy out there.
• 34:45
  You need Vinales. It seemed like Vinales was the,
• 34:49
  you know, the glue that held everything together that, you
• 34:53
  know, gave them the direction on which way the bike needs to go
• 34:57
  on what needs to happen and everything else.
• 34:59
  And now that he's there, it's just like, man, that was just
• 35:02
  like a tumbling house. It just went the shit, you know.
• 35:07
  And you know, Pedro Acosta shows some when he when I saw him do
• 35:11
  that, he she showed some real maturity.
• 35:14
  Then they said they show him a little bit mature to actually
• 35:18
  want to ride the bike with 0 electronics, like turn the
• 35:21
  electronics down, like just put them all the way low as possible
• 35:25
  and let me do this. So that, that shows a sign of,
• 35:29
  hey, I, I know these, these electronics are actually,
• 35:33
  they're supposed to help you, but these electronics are
• 35:35
  actually hindering me. So, you know, good, good ideal
• 35:39
  to him. And, and, you know, he rode the
• 35:41
  wheels off that bike and which is very smooth and very easy
• 35:44
  with it, but with Bender and, and you know them, I just don't
• 35:52
  see where they're going. You know, they just they
• 35:55
  actually need some help. Right, right.
• 35:59
  Yeah, I agree. And you know, we shall see Louis
• 36:02
  with your thoughts on KTM and you know, the electronics and I
• 36:07
  know we're going to see a lot less than 27 as far as
• 36:10
  electronics and stuff like that to give him more power to the
• 36:13
  riders, literally and figuratively.
• 36:16
  You know, what are your what are your thoughts on where KTM is?
• 36:18
  And you know, Brad need to come to Motor America.
• 36:24
  I think next year is going to be a very, very trying year for KTM
• 36:28
  between the financial issues that they're going through,
• 36:31
  because we are, you know, we can't forget those.
• 36:33
  I mean, they weigh heavily upon the minds of those cutting the
• 36:37
  checks at KTM. I'm sure they're going to have a
• 36:41
  lot of contracts that come due next year.
• 36:43
  So, you know, what do they see as their future one?
• 36:47
  Are they going to continue racing in Moto GP because it is
• 36:50
  a very big check to cash every year to go racing in Moto GP?
• 36:55
  Do they want to continue with four bikes?
• 36:58
  Do they want to actually have a true satellite team that's
• 37:01
  separate from their team? So obviously the tech three team
• 37:05
  is now owned by somebody else. So I think that person is going
• 37:07
  to infuse a lot of money to make sure that the KTM squad or at
• 37:11
  least the KTM bikes stay in the grid.
• 37:14
  So there's at least 4. But on the factory itself, you
• 37:17
  know, if I see the performance of Brad Bender as as currently a
• 37:22
  33 year old, next you're going to be 34 year old.
• 37:26
  Do I want to sign a guy for your two year contract that has not
• 37:29
  really given me the results that I wanted when he was at the peak
• 37:33
  of his youth and now he's going to be 353637 if I sign into a
• 37:38
  two year deal, do I want to do that with Maverick Vinales?
• 37:42
  You know, Maverick Vinales is a great rider, but he's another
• 37:46
  basket case. Either you need to be the
• 37:47
  greatest rider on the planet or the worst rider to work with.
• 37:52
  So you really have Pedro Acosta who wants to leave the team
• 37:56
  immediately because he wants instant results and the bikes
• 37:59
  not giving them the instant results.
• 38:01
  The only guy that they can count on for 27 is Bastianini because
• 38:04
  he's got no ride anywhere, so he's just working for food.
• 38:08
  He'll be more than happy to stay on a shitty bike because we can
• 38:11
  stay in the top ten just so he can have a competent ride until
• 38:14
  he can find something better. So a.
• 38:17
  Lot of question marks with the KTM team.
• 38:20
  Yeah, I agree with Bastianini. I mean, you know, I, I, you
• 38:23
  know, I won't, I won't go on my Ducati case.
• 38:26
  But you know, Bastianini, he, he, he, he, he is a talented
• 38:30
  rider. And I, I we, you know, like any
• 38:33
  sport, you know, we question decision making of the owners.
• 38:36
  I mean, their right to make whatever decisions they make,
• 38:38
  obviously, but as fans, we disagree with some of it, most
• 38:42
  of it really. But do you really?
• 38:46
  I mean, even though Vinjales, as you hear both Reese and and TJ
• 38:50
  say, I mean, he's helped the team along with even I mean, I
• 38:54
  guess they got rid of Miller. So but you know, you don't think
• 38:57
  it's worth keeping Vinjales. I mean, he doesn't he outside of
• 39:00
  this injury, this is like the first real major injury he's had
• 39:04
  in Moto GP. So he's still has a pretty, you
• 39:06
  know, healthy body, so so to speak, even though this shoulder
• 39:10
  injuries taken a lot longer to heal.
• 39:13
  If my choices were Bastionini, Bender, and Vinales, I would
• 39:18
  absolutely keep Vinales. Of those three guys, that's the
• 39:21
  guy would keep because he has been proven a winner.
• 39:25
  The biggest problem with him is if he's not happy, he becomes a
• 39:28
  giant pan in the ass, which is not a bad thing because you need
• 39:32
  that person to push you to get the bike better.
• 39:34
  But we've seen that, you know, he's burned the bridge at Yamaha
• 39:38
  and that's a bridge he's never going to go back to.
• 39:41
  He only has two other manufacturers left that he can
• 39:44
  even go to at this point. Right, right.
• 39:46
  But. You know, Venialis is like a
• 39:47
  Kevin Garnett. Don't we all want a Kevin
• 39:49
  Garnett on our team? TJ Reese, Yeah.
• 39:53
  I mean, we do, but I think he's kind of worse than a Kevin
• 39:56
  Garnett. Right, yeah, you, you need that
• 39:59
  Marcus Smart, Kevin Garnett type player all the time.
• 40:01
  But yeah, this. It can't be a nuisance though.
• 40:05
  Right. But I mean, listen what you, you
• 40:07
  can't, you can't, you can't criticize the guy when it's just
• 40:10
  not working. He's the same guy the whole
• 40:12
  time. Yeah, I mean, I know now we're
• 40:14
  like, oh, it's not working. Damn, you need Maverick.
• 40:16
  But when Maverick's actually out there, you're like, you know,
• 40:18
  this dude's like, so like, you know, you don't miss it when
• 40:24
  he's gone, but at the same time, like, it just it just be cordial
• 40:29
  in that stuff. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I've been
• 40:32
  rooting for a Maverick all year. I'm glad that he's got to shine
• 40:35
  and suck that he's injured, because I think KTM Acosta would
• 40:40
  have had help, right? And you know what I mean?
• 40:43
  And and that would, that would have, we would have been talking
• 40:45
  differently about a AKTM. And I mean, it's the same thing
• 40:50
  with with Martine, I guess with Aprilia, you know, if, if he was
• 40:54
  there, Bazecki would have had help.
• 40:57
  But although we we, I think Bazecki would have been like
• 41:01
  Bledsoe instead of being like Tom Brady and, and, you know,
• 41:04
  it's like he's getting a chance to be Tom Brady right now.
• 41:07
  What are your thoughts? I mean, we talked about earlier
• 41:10
  a little bit, but let's just dive further into it.
• 41:13
  The struggles, the penalties, you know, the up and the ups and
• 41:16
  down, they're still a better brand as far as in the
• 41:21
  championship than KTM. But it it you know, and, and we
• 41:26
  are obviously we, we can say Ducati's been struggling last
• 41:28
  few rounds too with their up and up and down.
• 41:31
  But this is the first weekend that Aprilia's really struggled
• 41:35
  since like the the summer break. What are your thoughts, TJ?
• 41:42
  Yeah, man, I don't, I don't know the the reason why they
• 41:45
  struggle. Like, like I said, they just
• 41:47
  need more help, more data. Like you figured that Raul was
• 41:53
  on a high after his last race and I feel like he struggled
• 41:56
  also. So yeah, they were just, they
• 41:58
  just just didn't have it. I mean, I don't, I don't know if
• 42:02
  there's just just a longer layout of the track where a lot
• 42:07
  more things are required. And I mean, there's a little
• 42:11
  overcast and stuff like that. But you know, everyone had to go
• 42:14
  out there and do the same thing, you know, but I just don't know
• 42:19
  if they just had enough data or why they why they struggled.
• 42:21
  That's just more of an insider. I just don't understand.
• 42:25
  OK, All right. Let's let's see if Reese might
• 42:26
  have a idea of why. I'll throw something out there.
• 42:29
  Is it a lack of funds? Because they probably poorest
• 42:32
  brand in Moto GP when you think about it.
• 42:36
  They're a small brand, you know, I, I don't think their money is
• 42:39
  long. Their, their, their money ain't
• 42:40
  like Yamaha, Hondo, Ducati, AKA Volkswagen.
• 42:45
  What are you? What are your thoughts, Reese?
• 42:48
  I mean, I mean, of course KTM is one of the lowest down there.
• 42:52
  I mean, but I mean, Aprilia is the struggle that Aprilia had
• 42:58
  this weekend. I mean, I still think that
• 43:00
  they're one of the the the better brands of bikes out there
• 43:06
  with Ducati. I think they're one of the top
• 43:09
  brands as far as you know, as far as you're looking at Honda,
• 43:13
  Yamaha, KTM, Yamaha is just shuttling all the way.
• 43:18
  You know, Honda has, you have seen Honda start a little bit of
• 43:25
  you want to say trickling up there towards the front, you
• 43:28
  know, or, or consistency. Yeah, KTM is struggling a little
• 43:34
  bit, but I think they're struggling because, yeah, it
• 43:36
  could be lack of funds, but then it's also, you don't have that
• 43:42
  that rider out there that is a well developed rider, but that
• 43:46
  can actually help develop a bike that understands what we need to
• 43:51
  win. He, that person is missing.
• 43:53
  Acosta can be it, but Acosta still is a little green behind
• 43:58
  it. You know, the Gills, he's he's
• 44:00
  learning his way slowly but surely.
• 44:02
  Acosta wants to take that that role and say I'm the leader of
• 44:05
  this team. But I think they still need
• 44:09
  that. It's just like, you know, as
• 44:11
  basketball in any sport, you need that vet, you need that one
• 44:14
  veteran player there. You need that veteran guy.
• 44:16
  And that's what Vinales is to be that.
• 44:19
  And you know, they just don't have it.
• 44:21
  Same thing and brilliant. They don't have.
• 44:24
  I think Martine is that veteran guy for Aprilia to actually help
• 44:30
  out a little bit. But you know that they're still
• 44:35
  both kind of little young. Yeah, that's.
• 44:38
  What I say when when you're in a 28 year old, you can't be a vet.
• 44:41
  Not a vet but he has. He's been around Ducati long
• 44:44
  enough to understand certain scenarios.
• 44:48
  He's been around that Ducati bike some some time now, so he
• 44:52
  can understand, hey, maybe we need to try this or maybe we
• 44:55
  need to try that. He can kind of give a little bit
• 44:57
  more insight, you know, and. And is it fair to say where
• 45:02
  Aprilia went wrong? And, and I know, you know, I, I
• 45:07
  don't listen. I don't want to mess with it.
• 45:09
  I don't want to say anything about anybody's contracts or
• 45:12
  anything like that and how somebody feels about something.
• 45:16
  Because I mean, to me it seems like a big deal for Maverick to
• 45:19
  leave because they didn't talk to him about signing Martine.
• 45:23
  But Vinyalis was that guy to be the veteran, right?
• 45:27
  And and he probably would have helped out Aprilia, like he
• 45:31
  helped out, he's helping out KTM.
• 45:34
  And and you know, you know, you know, you get you get your heart
• 45:38
  broken once and you know, was Vinyalis trying to destroy the
• 45:42
  engine? Was he not as his side against
• 45:44
  no one's in his head. So we don't know, right?
• 45:47
  We can only speculate and we can say whatever we don't know.
• 45:50
  But you know, for him to leave Aprilia the way he did, there's
• 45:54
  some animosity. I think that came from Yamaha
• 45:57
  and how he felt he was treated that this time it's just like,
• 46:00
  I'm not giving you a chance. This first girl broke my heart.
• 46:03
  You look like you might break my heart.
• 46:04
  So Deuces and and you know, that kind of thing.
• 46:08
  So do you think that Aprilia kind of screwed up by not having
• 46:12
  that conversation? Maybe they didn't.
• 46:14
  Maybe they didn't screw up because maybe they didn't think
• 46:16
  they that he needed that kind of talk, right?
• 46:20
  What are your thoughts, Louis? I think.
• 46:21
  It could be a basket case. Yeah, I mean, again, we don't
• 46:25
  know what happened behind the scenes.
• 46:26
  Maybe there were some already, some internal turmoil and that's
• 46:29
  why they didn't want to tell him.
• 46:31
  You know, Maverick isn't known in the paddock as being somebody
• 46:35
  that's easy to talk to. He's a great rider again, but
• 46:40
  that doesn't mean that, you know, he's great communicator or
• 46:44
  he's easy to get along with. There's some guys that are just,
• 46:47
  you know, hard to get along with.
• 46:48
  Whether you like it or not and whether you respect them on the
• 46:50
  track, they're just difficult to get along with.
• 46:53
  And I think maybe Aprilia saw an opportunity to get two really
• 46:56
  young, talented riders and said this is the opportunity we got
• 46:59
  to take as a team. This is what we have to do.
• 47:01
  Maybe Maverick was asking for more money than Aprilia was
• 47:04
  willing to give them. Again, these are negotiations,
• 47:07
  things that we don't know if. If Vinales was asking for 1 1/2
• 47:13
  times what Bez is getting, then they got a great deal.
• 47:16
  By getting Bez, they got a young rider that's put up some great
• 47:20
  numbers and done everything else.
• 47:22
  And with his time with the Prelia, I mean, really, what did
• 47:25
  it Vinales do when he was with the Prelia?
• 47:27
  You know, it's not like he lit the world on fire.
• 47:29
  I don't remember seeing how many wins he had.
• 47:30
  One win, one win. So Bez is already beaten his one
• 47:35
  win several times over, right? Right.
• 47:39
  So you know. Financially, they got a better
• 47:41
  deal by getting Bez and even if he did get a little bit butt
• 47:45
  hurt. This is the the name on the
• 47:47
  building. The name on the check is is
• 47:49
  Piaggio is not Vinales. You work for us, man.
• 47:52
  We don't work for you. If we tell you you're going to
• 47:55
  work with this person. If you don't want to work with
• 47:57
  them, that's a you problem. You know, I don't have to tell
• 48:01
  you everything I'm going to do. I thought this was your chance
• 48:04
  to completely do a a AA180 on. You're my employee.
• 48:10
  You're my employee. I was.
• 48:12
  Like, OK, he's coming around. I, I, I do like a AA9097, maybe
• 48:19
  in A10189. I'll give him a little props
• 48:25
  because he is, he's one of the most talented riders in the
• 48:28
  paddock, hands down. I can never take that away from
• 48:30
  him. But you know, from, from what's
• 48:33
  been said through the media and so forth, he's not always the
• 48:35
  easiest guy to get along with, not the easiest guy to have on
• 48:38
  the team. And that's another dynamic that
• 48:40
  we're not looking into. You know what, what in KTM
• 48:44
  internally might need to change outside of the riders, You know,
• 48:47
  we have the same mechanics, the same techs, the same lead
• 48:50
  technician, the same team principal for all this time.
• 48:54
  You know, maybe it's time to change the team principle over
• 48:56
  at KTM. Maybe the, you know, change some
• 49:00
  of those faces around because the faces on the bikes you can
• 49:03
  keep a million times. If your coaching team sucks,
• 49:06
  you're still going to have a shitty product out there.
• 49:08
  Right. You know, the qualities that
• 49:10
  Maverick has, I mean, there's some principles that have that
• 49:13
  same, that same character and, and that's a good thing for
• 49:17
  them, but for him it's not. So you know, it's tough when you
• 49:21
  don't when you don't sign a check, as they say.
• 49:27
  Let's talk about Speaking of check, let's talk about Honda.
• 49:29
  Because as, as Marquez told Zarko and some of the other guys
• 49:36
  some months back on Honda, it's like, look, yes, I gave up a lot
• 49:39
  of money. So don't waste it doesn't seem
• 49:42
  like Honda's wasting the money they got back from Marquez.
• 49:47
  And is it? Is it it?
• 49:51
  Is it time to say they're officially back?
• 49:55
  No, we're not going. We're not going to jump that
• 49:57
  gun. Yeah, I mean I can, I can see
• 50:02
  improvement. I mean if if mirror would have
• 50:06
  had stayed up maybe 10 more Grand Prix than possibly we.
• 50:11
  Could have. He's had over 44 crashes.
• 50:16
  I mean, that's my guy. I like, I like Mirror from like
• 50:19
  when he won his first championship and and stuff like
• 50:22
  that, but. The Suzuki guy.
• 50:24
  Yeah, yeah, all right. Don't say nothing.
• 50:29
  But anyway, yes, OK. So I feel like if he's finished
• 50:34
  with more grand prixs and Luca was around more, I feel like
• 50:38
  they'll have a better step than they're making now.
• 50:42
  It's a little late in the season, but I don't want to say
• 50:44
  they're officially back yet. But I can say that they're
• 50:47
  making steps. Right steps all.
• 50:50
  Right, all right, you know, Reese and you said no, but I
• 50:54
  mean, they could be like, you know, Colorado State with Dion,
• 50:58
  their second year, you know, it's a lot better than their
• 51:00
  first previous five years, you know, and and Honda, you know,
• 51:05
  there again, you know, crashes here, crashes there as you know,
• 51:09
  these guys are on the limits all the time.
• 51:11
  So, you know, you blink and you crash.
• 51:15
  What, What do they need to do to for you to say they're back?
• 51:19
  Consistent consistency is key. I mean, it's not just show like
• 51:26
  they're doing now. You know, there's one race they
• 51:28
  show grade, then the next one they're like nowhere to be fat
• 51:31
  round. And it's like the next one,
• 51:32
  they're nowhere around the next one they come up, they're in the
• 51:34
  top ten. Give me more consistency.
• 51:37
  And then I could say, hey, they're they're making a push to
• 51:40
  come back. I mean, right now they're
• 51:42
  showing a lot more improvements than the blue brand.
• 51:46
  You know, it sucks, but they're they're showing their
• 51:51
  improvement. They're showing that, you know,
• 51:53
  they didn't waste that money that mark has left on the table.
• 51:56
  You know, they're actually taking the initial steps to
• 51:59
  improve the bike and do what they need to do.
• 52:03
  You know, and I, I keep saying this all to a lot of people.
• 52:06
  I mean, you have one more year of the one thousandths.
• 52:09
  You got one more year. After that year, it's almost
• 52:12
  like a, you know, start from everybody.
• 52:14
  Everybody starts from zero. And, you know, we just hopefully
• 52:18
  everybody can, you know, come to the table at that time.
• 52:21
  Yeah, I mean, I do think we we'll move into it, but the
• 52:24
  riders, the the the teams that are in they got bikes and other
• 52:28
  series might have a better chance of that.
• 52:32
  Lewis, what are your thoughts on Honda, where they're at, and you
• 52:37
  know what you know? Are you saying they're back?
• 52:39
  Not yet. I'm saying they're further ahead
• 52:43
  of than Yamaha at this point. You know, I'll definitely say
• 52:46
  that I've said that for a while now.
• 52:48
  I felt that they have been improving in the right ways.
• 52:52
  And you know, nobody ever said that the Honda didn't have
• 52:55
  motor. I was going to bring that up
• 52:58
  because on the straights with Luca Marini, we thought we
• 53:03
  thought some bikes was going to. He was right there.
• 53:06
  So Honda doesn't have a problem with the motor.
• 53:09
  Honda's always had problems with stability in the braking and
• 53:12
  corner speed and edge grip and you know, things like that.
• 53:15
  So, and some of that you can get mechanically, some of that you
• 53:18
  can get through electronics. And some of that you got to find
• 53:21
  a rider that can ride around some of those issues.
• 53:23
  And they had that rider for a long time in Marquez.
• 53:26
  And now they're trying to build a bike that's a little more
• 53:28
  suitable for more guys than just one guy.
• 53:31
  And that's what I'm hoping Ducati stays away from, is don't
• 53:34
  don't make the bike so Marquette centric that it becomes to a
• 53:38
  point where nobody else can ride it.
• 53:40
  And Honda did that for a long time and now they're kind of
• 53:42
  having to go back to the drawing board and build a bike.
• 53:46
  But the motor was never the problem.
• 53:48
  You know, the bike puts down ridiculous amount of power, you
• 53:52
  know, So I feel that they're definitely ahead of Yamaha by a
• 53:55
  few steps because they don't have to build a motor from
• 53:57
  scratch. They have the motor, they know
• 54:00
  they have the overall chassis. They just have to get these
• 54:02
  finer points figured out and they're doing it.
• 54:04
  I mean, they're they are investing, they're doing the
• 54:06
  right things and I think they're doing it in a way that makes
• 54:09
  sense. I mean, they're not just going
• 54:11
  to throw all the money at this thing because again, next year
• 54:14
  is the last year for these bikes.
• 54:15
  So I'm not going to dump all my R&D into a bike that I'm
• 54:18
  scrapping in 18 months. You know, let me take some of
• 54:22
  that R&D money and start putting it towards that bike for 2027.
• 54:25
  So when that season kicks off, we're not at the back of the
• 54:29
  table, we're at the front of the table.
• 54:30
  You know, we're, we're doing the right thing to get our bike back
• 54:33
  up to the top step as quickly as possible.
• 54:36
  OK. I just hope that the riders
• 54:38
  survive between now and then. You know, if, you know, if Luca
• 54:42
  what, what we see Luca and mayor doing, I mean, you know, if
• 54:47
  Marquez was on that bike, I mean, wouldn't it be a winning
• 54:50
  bike because I mean the Ducati. It would it would be a winning
• 54:53
  bike because of him, but not because of the bike.
• 54:56
  Well, I mean, we could say that about a 25.
• 54:59
  You know Ducati? Yeah, except his brother's
• 55:03
  winning on it also. That's a 20.
• 55:05
  That's a 24. 20 ish. Listen, in some states it
• 55:10
  matters. I I think, I think.
• 55:12
  Honda is doing the right. Thing yeah, I think Honda is
• 55:15
  doing the right thing, the right way because you see what Mir, if
• 55:19
  you look at Mir and Marini, they have very similar styles.
• 55:24
  So they're making a bike to work with a specific style, very
• 55:28
  smooth, very fast corner type of style, not a hard breaking
• 55:33
  shooting point, you know, kind of style where you have to kind
• 55:35
  of go into the corner and you have to use your rear brake to
• 55:38
  get that last 2% of the turn done because your front brake is
• 55:41
  already gassed out and you're going to crush the front end.
• 55:44
  So they're changing the dynamics of the bike away from what
• 55:48
  Marquez is good at. So something that more people
• 55:50
  could be good at and that's what they need.
• 55:52
  They need a better rounded all around better bike.
• 55:57
  OK, I agree. You know, before you leave off
• 56:00
  Honda Zarco, he's looking better, still crashing a bunch.
• 56:04
  Some cat. I I saw they were cheering him
• 56:06
  on because he finished 15th. I don't know if they're saying
• 56:09
  goodbye to him. I don't know what.
• 56:11
  They saying goodbye, They saying goodbye.
• 56:14
  Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Good riddance.
• 56:17
  And you know, this is on Honda, right?
• 56:20
  This is on Honda for I mean, I mean, I shouldn't say it's on
• 56:23
  Honda because maybe somebody wrote them a fat check for him
• 56:25
  to come over. We don't we don't know.
• 56:28
  But and you know, they they're shipping them off to to world
• 56:32
  super bike, but this is on Honda because you know, this guy needs
• 56:36
  like Raul Fernandez. He needs more time.
• 56:38
  I don't think he's a bad rider. He needs more time.
• 56:42
  Some. No, he's a bad.
• 56:44
  Rider they don't like, they don't like giving time though.
• 56:46
  How much time can you get though?
• 56:48
  He's like, hey, I need time. I'm in the world.
• 56:50
  State he he really got a. Year and he was hurt ATM don't
• 56:54
  give you that sometimes you know like you know like certainly
• 56:57
  cash don't give you that one year in and you're out Hey let
• 57:02
  me garden go on. We trying to raise this ain't no
• 57:04
  fundraising case. Come on, listen, man, now let's
• 57:08
  let's let let let me know I've this has been one of my gripes
• 57:11
  with Gardner, with Ika Luku Ono, with some cat.
• 57:16
  There's some guys that get a bunch of time, but listen.
• 57:21
  Brad Bender got a lot of time. You know, Elise and Paul got a
• 57:24
  lot of time, Bradley Smith got a lot of time, you know, Tito Ruby
• 57:29
  got a lot of time. Reading had a lot of time in
• 57:32
  these in GP like and they and these guys barely got wins so
• 57:37
  like. That's what I don't I.
• 57:38
  Don't get like how? How do we?
• 57:42
  Hey, hey. But you got to say they had a
• 57:44
  lot of time. But some of those guys you
• 57:46
  named, they at least were top 10, at least top 10.
• 57:50
  As a rookie. As a rookie.
• 57:54
  Where did didn't they get it like once?
• 57:56
  Am I? Because if I'll go back in that.
• 57:57
  Listen, listen, yeah, Kagame got pulled once too, right?
• 58:01
  So I mean like some crash. He he, he would have got, he
• 58:03
  would have got it a little bit of a, you know, situation.
• 58:05
  When When nobody's going to track.
• 58:08
  Listen, you never know. It's Moto GP.
• 58:10
  You never know what can happen until you watch.
• 58:12
  Everybody crashes out like some Chad.
• 58:14
  Just need to go find something else to do.
• 58:17
  That's what he need to do. It's tricky, right?
• 58:21
  Because he probably should have stayed in Moto 21 more year
• 58:23
  because he probably would have been a force in Moto 2 because
• 58:25
  he was coming into his own Moto 2.
• 58:27
  But it's tough because as a Moto, and I, and I'll say this
• 58:30
  with, I think Raul Fernandez came to Moto GP too soon as
• 58:36
  well. I think he should have stuck
• 58:37
  around and stayed another year and be at the front of the front
• 58:41
  of the Moto 2 grid instead of coming into Moto GP and
• 58:45
  struggle. So we do see it when these guys
• 58:47
  come early. But also if you don't take the
• 58:50
  ride, you also see that you get blacklisted.
• 58:52
  Like, you know, Roberts and some of these other guys that didn't
• 58:55
  jump on the Perilia when it was, you know, worse than the Honda
• 58:58
  the ride. Yeah, that's tough.
• 59:02
  That's tough. I do agree with that.
• 59:03
  Like just got to go with the floor, I guess.
• 59:07
  I mean, I mean, so I've just still got to ride and I'm still
• 59:11
  an emoji P. But you know, I mean, his times
• 59:14
  are not too bad, but they're just not good enough by by a
• 59:20
  lot. Like like he's I feel like he's
• 59:23
  keeping pace, but he's like, I mean, if you want to call being
• 59:27
  a second a second-half off not close.
• 59:29
  I mean, I guess that's really not close like like like all of
• 59:33
  a sudden the past few years all these riders are within 1/2 a
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  second from each other, but after like years before it was
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  within one or one, two, one or two seconds.
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  So yeah, it's just unfortunate. I mean like and and the bike
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  that he's on I guess is also developing too, so.
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  Well, listen, I mean to sign Diego Marira is, I'm not going
• 59:54
  to sit here and say he's not a top notch rider and doesn't
• 59:56
  belong in Moto GP and stuff like that, but they are breaking the
• 59:59
  mold because he's not Asian. And they've been kind of doing
• 1:00:02
  that for almost 8 to 10 years to have an Asian rider on on, on
• 1:00:06
  the squad. So I can't believe Samkat did
• 1:00:09
  that bad that they said no more. Well, I, I think that might be
• 1:00:14
  with, you know, what are their options?
• 1:00:16
  What, what other Asians do they have at Moto 2?
• 1:00:18
  That's an option. Let's keep keep them for another
• 1:00:20
  year. I mean, listen talking to
• 1:00:22
  Nakagami. I love the guy, but like, like,
• 1:00:25
  you know, he started out the same way as Samkat and you know
• 1:00:30
  what I mean? Like I said, he got one pole I
• 1:00:31
  think and it was it her Herz or it was one of the Spanish
• 1:00:34
  rounds. And he crashed out first lap,
• 1:00:37
  crashed out right so. So he was consistent with what
• 1:00:41
  you're saying? That's what I'm saying and I
• 1:00:45
  think he came in in 15. I think 15 to 16 is when he came
• 1:00:48
  in. But like, you know, it's it and,
• 1:00:50
  and the blast when the bike was, you know, really bad.
• 1:00:54
  But you know what I'm saying? So it, it, you know, it, it's
• 1:00:56
  weird. I mean, I, I'm glad to see him
• 1:00:58
  in, in, in world super bike and stuff.
• 1:00:59
  But let's talk about the Yamaha before we get into world super
• 1:01:02
  bike. You know, Miller, you know, I,
• 1:01:06
  you know, I know some people question why Miller got
• 1:01:09
  resigned, but when we see these efforts from him, granted, like,
• 1:01:14
  you know, he doesn't have the same luck.
• 1:01:16
  And to see how dejected he was, you know, when he crashed out,
• 1:01:22
  you know, it, it, it, it's pretty, it's pretty wild to see
• 1:01:25
  because it's kind of, you know, as you guys know, you know, you,
• 1:01:29
  you know, sometimes you don't know why things ain't working
• 1:01:32
  out in that moment and, and stuff like that.
• 1:01:35
  So what are your thoughts on where Yamaha is?
• 1:01:37
  Because they're, they're showing flashes of, you know, you know,
• 1:01:41
  one lap speeds and stuff like that.
• 1:01:43
  And they can qualify fairly well, but they really stay, I
• 1:01:46
  don't want to say they're struggling like KTM, but their
• 1:01:48
  their struggles seem to like once the tire falls off, they
• 1:01:53
  they turn into like a, a Fiat. I mean, yeah, they're really
• 1:01:58
  struggling. I feel like there's just still a
• 1:02:00
  lot of Yamaha fans or a lot Yamaha believers out there for
• 1:02:04
  for GP. Like they just want to see them
• 1:02:06
  do good because, you know, they got fabulous a really good
• 1:02:09
  value. Don't want to waste that talent.
• 1:02:12
  And he's been proving it vice not showing it.
• 1:02:14
  Jack Miller, I mean, he's just been up and down, up and down,
• 1:02:19
  up and down, up and down. I mean, granted, he just had his
• 1:02:21
  Grand Prix hopefully gave you some confidence and you know,
• 1:02:25
  it's all kind of like not about you, but about you.
• 1:02:27
  So you can like use that to help a little bit.
• 1:02:32
  I mean, and then Miguel, I think he crashed out in sprints.
• 1:02:36
  So yeah, it's just not really looking good.
• 1:02:40
  That V4 was terrible. I think like and I think it it
• 1:02:49
  shouldn't have been been out there.
• 1:02:54
  I mean, I mean, they try, they try to get results.
• 1:02:57
  I mean, it was just like it was just, I mean, obviously trying
• 1:03:01
  to see what it got. It's just it just didn't look
• 1:03:03
  good. It didn't look good.
• 1:03:05
  Listen man, there are a lot of people that roll something out
• 1:03:07
  for the very first time. Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  It don't even make it down the street.
• 1:03:15
  You know, I gotta go back to the drawing board like you.
• 1:03:17
  Know I feel, I feel like Fabio right now.
• 1:03:20
  You know, you know, you know, Einstein is some of these guys,
• 1:03:23
  man, 100 a thousand experiments before they get it right.
• 1:03:26
  I mean, you know, it's, you know, at Reese, come on, you
• 1:03:30
  know, you guys, how many, how many stuff you guys have in the
• 1:03:33
  warehouse that didn't even make it on the bike?
• 1:03:37
  There's more parts that. Don't make it on stuff than do
• 1:03:40
  because you know, I don't want to say it's trial and error, but
• 1:03:43
  it's trial and error. What are your thoughts, Reese?
• 1:03:45
  Yeah, trial and error that testing not not during race
• 1:03:48
  weekend like trial and error that testing man, I don't know
• 1:03:54
  about no race weekend. Race weekend we trying to win.
• 1:03:57
  It's the weekend when? You send the bankers away and,
• 1:04:00
  and, and you know, you keep all the the engineers.
• 1:04:04
  I mean, you keep putting that V4 out yeah, you going to send the
• 1:04:07
  bankers away not wanting to invest like that thing is dog
• 1:04:11
  slower than the in line forward like what the F is this?
• 1:04:14
  But I mean, with, you know, keeping Jack on the and, you
• 1:04:20
  know, with Jack, I mean, he shows his, he shows his little
• 1:04:23
  spurts here and there. I mean, over this.
• 1:04:26
  I think with Miguel, I mean, if you, you know, between Miguel
• 1:04:29
  and between Miguel and Jack, I mean, they kept the right one.
• 1:04:32
  They kept Jack. So, you know, that was, you
• 1:04:37
  know, for that. But I mean, at this point in
• 1:04:39
  time, you're getting ready to almost lose Fabio, you know, for
• 1:04:42
  the 27th season, you're getting ready to lose him.
• 1:04:44
  He's going to be like, yeah, I'm done.
• 1:04:45
  I'm calling. He's where's he going to go?
• 1:04:47
  He's not, he's not going anywhere.
• 1:04:48
  He's not going anywhere. He where he where he going to
• 1:04:50
  go? Han I mean Costa's going to
• 1:04:53
  Honda. Like where are you going to go?
• 1:04:56
  He he he can just make noise and get a fatacon track and and and
• 1:05:00
  get more pearls. Lewis, what are your thoughts on
• 1:05:05
  Yamaha? Is it the V4 or is it the test
• 1:05:09
  rider? Augusta Fernandez has not been
• 1:05:13
  tested. Like I don't think he should be
• 1:05:15
  a test rider. Yeah, but think of it this way.
• 1:05:17
  How long was Stephen Brattle a test rider for Honda?
• 1:05:21
  You know, you just need to have a test rider, somebody that can
• 1:05:25
  give you feedback the right way, not necessarily the fastest guy,
• 1:05:31
  the right guy that can give you feedback.
• 1:05:33
  And sometimes the guy that can give you the best feedback is
• 1:05:35
  not the fastest guy. He might be, you know, a half a
• 1:05:38
  second, 3/4 of a second or even a second slower than the guys at
• 1:05:42
  the front, but he can feel things and explain them to the
• 1:05:45
  engineers better than a super fast guy.
• 1:05:48
  Like if I had to build a bike tomorrow and my test rider, the
• 1:05:51
  two options are going to be Mark Marquez or Maverick Vinales.
• 1:05:56
  I would pick Maverick Vinales because Mark Marquez is going to
• 1:05:59
  give me great feedback for a bike for him.
• 1:06:03
  Right. Vinales is going to give me
• 1:06:04
  great feedback to make a great bike.
• 1:06:07
  OK, so but but Fernandez is not that.
• 1:06:13
  But if if that's the case, then Michaely Piero, he tests all the
• 1:06:17
  Ducatis, our Ducati ship boxes cuz he's he's slow as he's slow
• 1:06:22
  as. Balls the 25 man you you.
• 1:06:24
  I'm on record. I already complained about the
• 1:06:25
  25. I already said it to me.
• 1:06:27
  It's the worst bike since the 2020.
• 1:06:29
  So then blame Michele Piero cuz he's the one that's testing or
• 1:06:33
  blame Lucas Salvadori. Again, you know, that's what
• 1:06:36
  I'm, that's why I'm asking this, cuz you know, but you know, it's
• 1:06:41
  a different era, right? And I, and I get what you're
• 1:06:43
  saying, but are you telling me there's no former Moto GP riders
• 1:06:48
  that's had a better career than than Fernandez to be A, to be a
• 1:06:52
  test rider? The only good one that wants to
• 1:06:54
  do it is Danny Pedrosa. What other former GP rider would
• 1:06:59
  you want to Jorge Lorenzo? Yo, my man's eating a lot of
• 1:07:02
  arepas. He's looking real pudgy around
• 1:07:05
  the middle. He's.
• 1:07:05
  Starting to look like some of these retired European football
• 1:07:08
  players. My man's like what I don't have
• 1:07:11
  to work out anymore. Bet you don't have to dare me
• 1:07:17
  and. Then I mean we do got Dolby.
• 1:07:20
  Dobby's Dobby does ride here and there.
• 1:07:22
  But you know, yeah, he's he's he.
• 1:07:24
  But he's just coming on though. He's replacing Cal and Cal been
• 1:07:26
  hurt for like a two years since his accident he seems like he's
• 1:07:29
  been hurt. And all right, so outside of
• 1:07:31
  those two guys, who else do you have that's going to want to?
• 1:07:34
  Do it well. They, they, they lost the lace
• 1:07:37
  cause the lace is with Honda. I mean, Rossi's racing.
• 1:07:41
  So he's not going to come in and, and be a test rider for
• 1:07:44
  sure. I mean.
• 1:07:46
  I mean, I wasn't expecting like, you know, Fernandez to come in
• 1:07:51
  and and be top 15. Obviously it's a new project,
• 1:07:54
  but like they're literally transitioning to this bike
• 1:07:58
  pretty soon. Like it's going to be a fabulous
• 1:08:00
  hands in a couple months or in a month or two.
• 1:08:03
  Obviously his scale level will help improve it, but like, you
• 1:08:06
  know, yeah, Mapira was way down the path.
• 1:08:08
  He was like 20th, you know, but like and, you know, just see
• 1:08:13
  like chanter not to pick on him, finish ahead of him in the
• 1:08:16
  Sprint. And the GPI know it's not about
• 1:08:18
  the speed. It's just I feel like it the
• 1:08:21
  direction that Yamaha is trying to head, they should show more
• 1:08:25
  improvement. And to a fan, maybe they're
• 1:08:27
  seeing something we're not seeing.
• 1:08:29
  I think the best test rider they have is Alex Renz.
• 1:08:32
  Take him off the factory seat and put somebody else in the
• 1:08:35
  factory seat and makes Alan because Alex Renz, he just
• 1:08:39
  doesn't have it, man. He now it's very clear that he
• 1:08:42
  just has not recovered from his last injury because he's just,
• 1:08:46
  he's a shell of the guy he was just three years ago.
• 1:08:49
  And it's not the bike because I mean, he's finishing either
• 1:08:52
  right in front of or right behind Jack Miller.
• 1:08:55
  So it's it's definitely not the bike.
• 1:08:56
  He still has skill, he just doesn't have that extra piece to
• 1:09:00
  to get him to the front anymore and I think he's riding out his
• 1:09:03
  contract once his contract is done.
• 1:09:05
  If I was Yamaha, I would keep him as a test rider because that
• 1:09:09
  dude is fast. That dude is smooth.
• 1:09:11
  That dude can help you build a fast bike.
• 1:09:14
  Just take him out of the racing environment and put him on his
• 1:09:17
  full test riding environment and he will help you develop a bike
• 1:09:21
  really, really well. He'll be testing that V4 next
• 1:09:23
  year for the whole season. From 18th place, did you guys
• 1:09:30
  give that seat to somebody else? I I think Renzel figured it out.
• 1:09:33
  I believe in Renzel like he's. Too.
• 1:09:35
  But I think, I think it's the writing's on the wall that next
• 1:09:40
  year will be his. Last year I don't.
• 1:09:41
  Figure it out. He's figuring out how to be a
• 1:09:44
  test writer. You.
• 1:09:46
  Think you think it's hard to become a test writer.
• 1:09:48
  Like, you know, you say it's probably fit for him, but what
• 1:09:51
  if he's like, no, I don't want to do that.
• 1:09:54
  Remember, when you're a test rider, you're not traveling
• 1:09:57
  around the world anymore. You're talking about a guy who's
• 1:09:59
  married with kids who who probably would, would, doesn't
• 1:10:03
  mind flying away for like a week to go test ride and then come
• 1:10:06
  home and be with his family again.
• 1:10:08
  You know, he's got plenty of money.
• 1:10:09
  He can retire, make his money on the side.
• 1:10:11
  He's still going to make money off his name and off his his
• 1:10:13
  fame, but for certain guys, this is the best reality of after
• 1:10:19
  racing, what am I going to do after racing?
• 1:10:21
  He's not going to be a commentator because Polis
• 1:10:23
  Barbara has already locked that down.
• 1:10:25
  It's. Just made.
• 1:10:29
  It's just made for certain people, you know?
• 1:10:31
  Yeah. And, and even when he's on the
• 1:10:33
  mic, he's not the most charismatic person in the world.
• 1:10:36
  I mean, he's a great guy, but he's, you know, he's not having
• 1:10:38
  everybody's attention and, and making the inflections that you
• 1:10:41
  need to really grab the the audience's attention.
• 1:10:45
  Commentating is is a difficult game in itself.
• 1:10:48
  But you put him on a bike on a track with engineers, let him go
• 1:10:52
  out, run paces. He knows how to ride, he knows
• 1:10:54
  how to go fast. And he would tell you how to fix
• 1:10:56
  that bike minus the environment and the stress of a race weekend
• 1:11:02
  and traveling for four weeks in a row and not seeing his family
• 1:11:06
  and all this other stuff that does at his age and where he's
• 1:11:09
  at his life. I'm sure that that that that
• 1:11:11
  takes a toll on him, man. I can, yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I think he got one year
• 1:11:17
  left and I think he wants to win on another manufacturer before
• 1:11:20
  he bows out. So, you know, he got at least 24
• 1:11:23
  rounds to at least try to win a race.
• 1:11:25
  So I mean, that's a that's, you know, at least 44 round 44
• 1:11:29
  races. One of them he'll get.
• 1:11:31
  But let's talk about girl super bike.
• 1:11:34
  We got some, you know, more Moto GP, more Moto 2 riders coming
• 1:11:37
  in. You know, you guys, you know, I
• 1:11:40
  said you guys, Reese and and Lewis, you guys have been
• 1:11:42
  following the sport and been in the sport longer than I have.
• 1:11:45
  From what I can tell, it looks like this is the most most Moto
• 1:11:50
  GP or Moto 2 riders I've seen in World Super Bike paddock.
• 1:11:53
  I don't know, Reese, when you got there, if you know, you know
• 1:11:57
  if that's a good thing or not, because now you know folks
• 1:12:01
  coming from different classes. It's going to be harder to get
• 1:12:03
  into World Super Bike when, you know, you got the people leaving
• 1:12:06
  Moto GP and Moto 2. Baltazari's coming back to Super
• 1:12:12
  Bike next year. He's did like a world tour with
• 1:12:15
  all these other classes and stuff like that.
• 1:12:18
  Is it a good thing for these former Moto GP riders to be in
• 1:12:23
  Moto, to be in World Super Bike And, and, and I mean, it's like
• 1:12:26
  at least top 10? Yeah.
• 1:12:29
  I mean, it's always good. I mean we always just say
• 1:12:31
  sometimes World Super Bike is where, you know, the old GP
• 1:12:35
  riders go to retire and die but not.
• 1:12:38
  A young, not a young, not a you know, right?
• 1:12:40
  Are you playing 425? Right.
• 1:12:43
  So I mean, it's a good thing. Is it just just shakes up the
• 1:12:46
  paddock? I mean you got it's a lot of
• 1:12:48
  things that are moving pieces. You got Moto GPS guys getting
• 1:12:51
  World Super bike, you got World Super bike guys coming over here
• 1:12:53
  to Moto America. So you got a bunch of things
• 1:12:56
  that's in play and it's just going to shake up the paddock
• 1:12:59
  and it's just going to make the series more interesting.
• 1:13:02
  So I think it is a good thing. It's just going to keep the
• 1:13:04
  sport growing and actually show some different views for people.
• 1:13:09
  OK. All right, TJ, what are your
• 1:13:11
  thoughts on that? I mean, I'm, I'm excited to see
• 1:13:14
  next year the Lowe's brothers are going to win everything.
• 1:13:18
  Yeah, the most. Well, I mean, I I do like I do
• 1:13:22
  like the shake up and and you know, you see a couple of riders
• 1:13:26
  soon to become aging out, you know, like, you know, some
• 1:13:30
  riders again up in and so it's good to see like some names.
• 1:13:34
  TJ come out. Oh, Vandemore Wells.
• 1:13:36
  Bautista, you know, there's a couple of those guys, you know,
• 1:13:40
  and now a big, big key thing, though, is that Top Rock left
• 1:13:44
  too. So like it's like now a lot of
• 1:13:47
  fans that's probably watching the World Super bike because the
• 1:13:50
  top rocks going to be like, all right, where's Top Rock going?
• 1:13:53
  So they might lose a lot of fans, the World Super bike
• 1:13:56
  because of this, but how do you keep it?
• 1:13:58
  So, you know, just bring a younger crowd some Moto GP races
• 1:14:03
  over here. So I think it's a good thing and
• 1:14:07
  I think it is confirmed that Darren Bendis coming to Moto
• 1:14:09
  Americas. That's true.
• 1:14:10
  So. But I I I haven't heard of
• 1:14:13
  Darren Bender's coming but. He might want to try Vandamark.
• 1:14:18
  Right, right. It's tough.
• 1:14:20
  Lewis, what are your thoughts on on, you know, those writers and
• 1:14:25
  is it fear? Like, you know, TJ mentioned
• 1:14:30
  Bulaga and we all saying Bulaga is going to run away with it
• 1:14:35
  next year unless some of these other Moto GP riders might stop
• 1:14:38
  him and stuff like that. We see that he looks like he may
• 1:14:42
  ride Marquez's bike and one of these rounds coming up and stuff
• 1:14:45
  like that, you know, is Bulaga getting showed the proper love
• 1:14:50
  from Ducati? Is it is it is it maybe is he
• 1:14:53
  being promised that he might be able to get a Moto GP ride?
• 1:14:57
  Is this just a pat on the back to say, hey, we'll let you ride
• 1:15:00
  this bike and and you know, as a rider and he was in Moto 2, I'm
• 1:15:03
  pretty sure he wanted to go to Moto GP before world super bike.
• 1:15:07
  You know, what are your thoughts overall on on all these young
• 1:15:10
  riders coming into our world super bike these days and then
• 1:15:13
  build a good situation with Ducati?
• 1:15:15
  I mean, the guys going to World Super Bike, I think increases
• 1:15:18
  the quality of World Super Bike. You know, to see some, some
• 1:15:22
  popular names from the Moto GP paddock going over to a World
• 1:15:25
  Super Bike is a benefit to World Super Bike.
• 1:15:27
  Because like I said, I feel that there's a lack of stars in World
• 1:15:31
  Super Bike right now. There was two big stars, one of
• 1:15:33
  them is gone and now we need new stars.
• 1:15:36
  We need new young stars that can go there and really shake it up
• 1:15:40
  and bring some new life into that series.
• 1:15:42
  You know, Alvaro Bautista again on the older side of old, Danilo
• 1:15:47
  Bertucci on the older, older side of old.
• 1:15:50
  I mean, these are well known names, but it's kind of time to
• 1:15:53
  see some new young blood coming up and being competitive.
• 1:15:57
  And that's one of the things that I'm worried about about
• 1:16:00
  World Super Bike. One, we've already noted that
• 1:16:02
  the attendance this year hasn't been that great.
• 1:16:05
  They have, they've only did 10 rounds, which for a world class
• 1:16:08
  championship is not enough. I mean, 10 rounds is not enough.
• 1:16:14
  Moto GP is doing 22 rounds and World Super Bike is doing less
• 1:16:18
  than half of that. Like that's not acceptable.
• 1:16:21
  Like World Super Bikes got to figure that out.
• 1:16:22
  They got to expand. They got to go to more regions.
• 1:16:24
  Like, they got to come to South America, they got to come to
• 1:16:26
  Latin America, they have to come to the US.
• 1:16:30
  They can't just be the European Championship with one race in
• 1:16:34
  Australia, you know, like that doesn't work.
• 1:16:36
  You know, they need to go to Asia, they need to go to
• 1:16:38
  Malaysia, they need to go to all these other markets.
• 1:16:43
  I just hope that it doesn't. Again, I've worried about this
• 1:16:46
  for a while now that it doesn't become the Nicola Bulaga show.
• 1:16:49
  You know, I hope that Ikaleko Ona will actually be able to
• 1:16:53
  compete against his own teammate on the Ducati because I don't
• 1:16:56
  see Danilo Petrucci jumping on the BMW and lighting the world
• 1:17:01
  on fire. He's a great rider, but I don't
• 1:17:03
  see him lighting the world on fire on that bike.
• 1:17:06
  Miguel Alarira, if he gets through a season without being
• 1:17:09
  taken out 18 times, that's a win by itself.
• 1:17:13
  You know, maybe he let the Moto GP paddock because there was a
• 1:17:16
  bounty out on him because he just couldn't get away from
• 1:17:19
  people's front tires. Remember, do you remember those
• 1:17:22
  old cartoons? You might where they, you know,
• 1:17:25
  it was like, you know, they were doing future cars and there's
• 1:17:27
  one car that you know they have a car that the bumper doesn't
• 1:17:30
  get scratched the. Whole car is destroyed but the
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  bumper. Is pristine.
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  Can we put something around? So with the guys that are coming
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  over from Moto GPI, hope they do something.
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  I mean, Jake Dixon and and Chantra going to Honda, we
• 1:17:49
  talked about it last week. I think Honda's insane for
• 1:17:53
  wiping the slate completely clean just as their riders are
• 1:17:56
  actually becoming really competitive.
• 1:17:58
  You saw Chavi the last? Round yeah.
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  Like that was like, I don't know what Honda's thinking.
• 1:18:03
  Maybe they see something in Jake Dixon and Chantra that I don't
• 1:18:06
  see. I don't.
• 1:18:11
  Know all those guys racing Moto 2?
• 1:18:14
  Maybe me, you know, maybe they're hoping that they bring
• 1:18:17
  that Moto to energy and start banging bars and pushing people
• 1:18:20
  wide and doing all that crazy Moto to stuff there.
• 1:18:22
  But I don't, I still don't think Honda has the bike to be at the
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  very front with the Ducati yet, or even with the BMW.
• 1:18:30
  But I still think they'll be competitive next year with the
• 1:18:32
  BMW just because BMWs got a full stable.
• 1:18:36
  And you guys also that don't know the bike, don't know the
• 1:18:39
  dynamics. And as good as a rider you are,
• 1:18:40
  you still need to make the bike. Yeah, learn that bike, make
• 1:18:45
  those adjustments that work with your body, with your riding
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  style. So.
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  Yeah, I I think that Yamaha, I think next year Yamaha has a
• 1:18:54
  shot in the world super bike. This is the talent and there and
• 1:18:58
  some and pretty much everyone is staying on the same bike.
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  I think the only person that's going there is Manzi.
• 1:19:04
  I think everybody else's repeat offenders on the Yamaha and
• 1:19:07
  Ducati. I mean every, you know the, I
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  mean, I don't want to say Kawasaki's not there, but they
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  didn't show enough this year that they could be there next
• 1:19:16
  year. But I think Yamaha cause Yamaha
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  look, what's his name? The other writer on the Agatelli
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  no AGO. For a while.
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  Yamaha, he's doing fairly well I think.
• 1:19:30
  He's finishing Lakatelli. Lakatelli.
• 1:19:32
  Lakatelli, yeah, he's finishing 4th and I think 4th or 5th in
• 1:19:35
  the championship or something like that.
• 1:19:36
  So I think Honda has a pretty good shot next year and we got.
• 1:19:41
  Chubby next year? Yep.
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  Yeah, they got Javi Vieje and Lacatelli on the scene.
• 1:19:46
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Johnny Ray retires.
• 1:19:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then because Honda.
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  Is smoking crack and just let all their good riders leave.
• 1:19:53
  Yeah, which is stupid. It it, it is.
• 1:19:59
  It is crazy. But I think it's overall, it's a
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  good look to have these guys. In the sport, hopefully next
• 1:20:04
  year, you know, it'll be different as far as the, the
• 1:20:08
  attendance and stuff like that, but as far as the, the
• 1:20:11
  competitive side of of of world super bike, it's cool to see
• 1:20:15
  because in theory, you know, you got 12 riders that can can
• 1:20:19
  probably, you know, fight up front.
• 1:20:21
  I mean fight for second down, because I think I, I think it's
• 1:20:24
  going to be runaway Bulliga for next season.
• 1:20:27
  Anything we miss? Anything you want to add before
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  we get out of here, guys? No, I got a question for Reese
• 1:20:32
  that I didn't think about before.
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  Oh gosh, no. No, no.
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  How did you get through customs? You know, the token black guys
• 1:20:41
  got to get through, you know? So we know next year the baggers
• 1:20:46
  are going to go race in Moto GP. 6 races, one here in the US and
• 1:20:50
  five in Europe. Do you think it would have been
• 1:20:53
  better if baggers went to World Super Bike instead of Moto GP?
• 1:20:57
  Just thinking about what baggers have done here in the US with
• 1:21:01
  more stock type racing versus prototype racing.
• 1:21:05
  You know, I understand they're going to see get a bigger
• 1:21:07
  audience in GP, but I think they would bring audience to World
• 1:21:11
  Super Bike that doesn't necessarily go to World Super
• 1:21:13
  Bike versus Moto GP. Guys, they're still going to
• 1:21:16
  sell out A100150160 thousand seats.
• 1:21:20
  You know, are they going to sell 168,000 seats just because
• 1:21:24
  baggers are there? Like I, you know, I don't see
• 1:21:27
  the numbers that we see here. When you see the 20 or 30%
• 1:21:31
  higher attendance when baggers come, I don't see that equating
• 1:21:34
  to Moto GP. If if Moto GP this weekend was
• 1:21:37
  in Malaysia and they had 190,000 people, I don't think they're
• 1:21:41
  going to have 227,000 people versus if they were at World
• 1:21:46
  Super Bike and they had 80,000 people, there is a possibility
• 1:21:49
  they could have 110,000 people. And I'd like to add, why did
• 1:21:54
  they get rid of Moto E to put the baggers in?
• 1:21:57
  Because more gas, more oil. They missed the oil man, they
• 1:22:02
  missed the oil leaks, they missed the blow motors.
• 1:22:04
  Because Moto E had believe 6 rounds.
• 1:22:11
  I mean, I, I honestly think that it would have been, you know,
• 1:22:14
  going the world super bike because you know, it, it's going
• 1:22:17
  to bring in attendance, right. You know, it's bringing the
• 1:22:19
  attendance into Moto America. It it's it brought that
• 1:22:22
  attendance way up. So I think if it went the world
• 1:22:25
  super bike, like you said, like Lewis said, you know, with a
• 1:22:28
  stock bike versus a prototype, you know it, it just seems a lot
• 1:22:33
  better. I mean, you can't really boost
• 1:22:35
  up Moto GP, but the only thing I can see them doing is because
• 1:22:39
  you're going to get more eyes on it, you know, more developers on
• 1:22:43
  it where they can actually kind of branch off and maybe put an
• 1:22:48
  into, you know, world super bike or do something else or more
• 1:22:51
  teams of that of that kind or that caliber can come into play
• 1:22:56
  and, and want to actually try it because it is something that is,
• 1:23:00
  is, is, you know, working. Yeah, it's a hell of a lot of
• 1:23:04
  money. I mean, it's like, I think it
• 1:23:05
  was like $1.5 million just to build one of them damn things.
• 1:23:08
  That's gonna yeah, you know, it, it, it, it's pretty crazy bags.
• 1:23:15
  Fuck. Say again.
• 1:23:18
  I'd say flock. That's a.
• 1:23:20
  That's a that's just empty bags. I'm kidding, but you know, it's
• 1:23:24
  just like, damn and. And is, is, is that a situation
• 1:23:28
  where the fans are requesting it Harley signing the big check?
• 1:23:34
  Because I mean it, it's it's pretty impressive.
• 1:23:37
  I mean to see we already said it's pretty impressive to what
• 1:23:40
  we've seen happen in Motor America with the turn out it
• 1:23:44
  it's been and to leapfrog to Moto GP and not World Super Bike
• 1:23:48
  or some of these other and maybe or maybe we may see it down the
• 1:23:51
  road in the future. Never know, you might.
• 1:23:55
  Well, the test was really last year's Moto GP to this year's
• 1:23:58
  Moto GP and the test was in the paddock here at CODA.
• 1:24:02
  You know, they saw how many attendees they had last or in
• 1:24:06
  2024 when they had the baggers versus 2025 when they didn't
• 1:24:10
  have the baggers. And that was a test that was a
• 1:24:12
  litmus test. Does this bring fans?
• 1:24:15
  2024 they had Harley-Davidson there.
• 1:24:17
  Harley-Davidson invested heavily.
• 1:24:19
  We had a huge attendance at CODA this year.
• 1:24:22
  They didn't have the baggers. Harley didn't attend.
• 1:24:24
  And you saw that the I mean, you weren't there both years, but I
• 1:24:27
  was and the attendance was significantly down from the year
• 1:24:31
  before when the baggers were there.
• 1:24:32
  So that was kind of the litmus test for Moto GP to see the
• 1:24:36
  amount of people that kind of rally around this, you know,
• 1:24:39
  this what looks like a sideshow, but it is a a legitimate form of
• 1:24:43
  racing. Like these guys are legitimate
• 1:24:45
  races. These bikes are crazy fast.
• 1:24:47
  And I think in Europe when they see £800 bagger going 1/2 a
• 1:24:53
  second slower than a Moto 2 bike it might be a little bit eye
• 1:24:56
  opening to some of these guys. Oh yeah, I'd be, that'd be
• 1:24:59
  interesting to see. I don't know if we've ever
• 1:25:01
  compared on the show the times on Moto 2.
• 1:25:04
  I know we talked about super sport in America and stuff like
• 1:25:08
  that. I mean, granted, I guess Koda
• 1:25:10
  would be the only track that we could kind of use as a, as a, as
• 1:25:12
  a good barometer since we're not racing over in any of the tracks
• 1:25:16
  in in the rest of the world and stuff like that.
• 1:25:20
  I lost my train of thought with that guys.
• 1:25:22
  Anything you want to add and and we'll we'll.
• 1:25:25
  Teach that. I had something good.
• 1:25:30
  I was just saying the the the bag is keeping up with the Super
• 1:25:33
  sports. They had Carol I'm in doing a
• 1:25:36
  time with I forget someone on a super sport and they were I
• 1:25:40
  think he did faster time than them.
• 1:25:42
  And it's just crazy what the bag is can do.
• 1:25:45
  And I mean, people don't know that a car, they can do that.
• 1:25:49
  Right, but I'll I'll say this, the what the baggers bring to
• 1:25:53
  the sport and I seen it on Sunday at Jersey's round.
• 1:25:56
  That's when we were, you know, packing.
• 1:25:59
  They're actually like how racing was back in the day like crazy
• 1:26:06
  while like they were in the paddock, literally, you know,
• 1:26:08
  they won and they're in the paddock late at night doing
• 1:26:11
  burnout, blowing tires, drinking a beer with one hand and hold.
• 1:26:15
  I'm like these these nuts and they're just they're living it
• 1:26:18
  up. But that's what racing is.
• 1:26:21
  It's about fun. It's about the whole team having
• 1:26:24
  fun. You celebrate as a team, but it
• 1:26:27
  will Harley, will Harley invested in their racing.
• 1:26:30
  It's just like it's insane amount of money.
• 1:26:33
  It's insane. Like we just got money to throw
• 1:26:35
  at this. They're doing burnouts.
• 1:26:37
  You guys are measuring the leftover oil?
• 1:26:40
  Pretty much leftover oil, like what can we do for next year?
• 1:26:46
  Like this is they're out there having fun.
• 1:26:49
  So it is this is something. They're bringing fun back to the
• 1:26:53
  paddock. So that's what it is.
• 1:26:55
  A real quick search at Koda baggers are about 5 seconds a
• 1:26:59
  lap slower than Moto 2 bikes and one second a lap faster than
• 1:27:02
  Moto 3 bikes. So they're right in that sweet
• 1:27:07
  spot between a single cylinder and a four-cylinder A3 cylinder.
• 1:27:12
  So they're right there where A2 cylinder should be.
• 1:27:15
  And listen, with that said, give me a skinny girl every day, all
• 1:27:18
  day, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:20
  I'd rather. I'd rather crash in a motor 3
• 1:27:22
  bike then I'm a bagger. Is it a bagger?
• 1:27:25
  Boy? Jesus Christ, that's going to
• 1:27:27
  hurt. I, I will say that the things I
• 1:27:29
  like to see about see on the baggers is when they spin up the
• 1:27:33
  rear and go sideways because they're the only they, they seem
• 1:27:36
  to like they can just straighten out and keep going.
• 1:27:38
  Other guys will, will high side and flip off the bike.
• 1:27:42
  These guys go sideways and and that thing will straighten out.
• 1:27:45
  And here's another thing to take into account.
• 1:27:47
  The baggers were racing at Coda on Dunlops in the GP series.
• 1:27:53
  From my understanding, they're supposed to be on Pirelli's so.
• 1:27:58
  Is that good? Is that?
• 1:27:59
  Good for two seconds, Reese. I plead the 5th.
• 1:28:04
  I'm out. About to be dragging the elbows
• 1:28:08
  on the baggers on Pirelli tires. I.
• 1:28:13
  Think Dunlop. Time is time is ticking it it.
• 1:28:17
  It it sounds like it. And if more people get their say
• 1:28:20
  or get overseas to get on on these Pirellis that seem to get
• 1:28:23
  all the the the spider man, the spider man Pirellis, you know,
• 1:28:28
  it's going to be a beautiful thing.
• 1:28:30
  It's great. And we'll talk about this and
• 1:28:32
  wrap up because we're kind of going over to a little bit.
• 1:28:35
  But yeah, I'll leave that for another time.
• 1:28:37
  The tire, the tire war and and how much of a difference would
• 1:28:41
  make in the sport if we could all be on the same playing
• 1:28:44
  field. My name is Rex 45.
• 1:28:46
  It's the Be Forever Cool podcast.
• 1:28:47
  I want to thank TJ from 2 Wheels and Coffee Reese from Attack
• 1:28:51
  Yamaha. He got back into the country
• 1:28:53
  safely. We didn't have to, you know, use
• 1:28:56
  the old ways to get him back into the country and.
• 1:28:58
  Stuff like that. But to have him back here on on
• 1:29:01
  on the US soil, the real Lewis or Otega, the numbers guy, not
• 1:29:05
  too much numbers. We got 2 races left Lewis.
• 1:29:07
  So we'll we'll, we'll we'll definitely add up how things
• 1:29:11
  went at the last round. Like we already know who's the
• 1:29:13
  crown champion. I'll say this, though, it is
• 1:29:15
  weird that, you know, with Marquez, right?
• 1:29:18
  Because it feels like the last two years, these champions, you
• 1:29:21
  know, Martine got hurt this year.
• 1:29:24
  So he had no world tour. And then a week later Mark is
• 1:29:28
  out. So it's like he win the
• 1:29:29
  championship, but like, there's no celebration really.
• 1:29:31
  Nah. I mean, he'll he'll be walking
• 1:29:34
  around, he said in Spain, but not not in his Leathers.
• 1:29:38
  So it just sucks. It sucks to not be able to do
• 1:29:40
  that like end of season championship kind of ride.
• 1:29:45
  But I mean, hopefully he'll have a few more all.
• 1:29:47
  Right there you go. And and we will talk about him
• 1:29:50
  for him. So that way he's he's not
• 1:29:52
  missing much. My name is Rex 45.
• 1:29:54
  Peace. Peace, peace, peace.