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- 0:00Speaker 1: All we heard about was the dudes that they did
- 0:02Speaker 1: have that were just murdering Norfolk. Yet Jesus Lizardo went
- 0:08Speaker 1: a few miles north to Philly this offseason.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Hi guys, I'm Britgeroli. For those who aren't familiar with me,
- 0:18Speaker 2: I'm a senior m web writer for the Athletic. I
- 0:22Speaker 2: work very closely with Ken Rosenthal. I also do some
- 0:26Speaker 2: stuff for us. And why in a curage on the League,
- 0:28Speaker 2: you guys let me crash the party you're at FT
- 0:30Speaker 2: and that is when I am doing this afternoon, much
- 0:33Speaker 2: to AJ chagrin, Aj, why don't you tell everyone you
- 0:36Speaker 2: really wanted to host today?
- 0:37Speaker 3: Just just let it out and you'll feel better.
- 0:39Speaker 1: No, I did, listen. I thought I should have hosted today.
- 0:42Speaker 4: I know that Britt, you have children that you have
- 0:45Speaker 4: to deal with, and you know the problem is that
- 0:47Speaker 4: the producer lady and the powers that be would never
- 0:49Speaker 4: let that happen because the show could never get back
- 0:51Speaker 4: on the rails.
- 0:52Speaker 1: So therefore we had to bring you in. Bread. I mean,
- 0:54Speaker 1: look at my shirt.
- 0:55Speaker 4: I clearly didn't dry off very well after I'd taking
- 0:57Speaker 4: a shower.
- 0:59Speaker 1: The disaster happened.
- 1:02Speaker 4: I didn't try off, I was in a hurry because
- 1:03Speaker 4: I was running a little behind, so I didn't try
- 1:06Speaker 4: off properly.
- 1:07Speaker 1: But it's fine. That's why you don't get the host.
- 1:12Speaker 2: I do appreciate the break from my children from one
- 1:15Speaker 2: to three today, So thank you very much everyone for
- 1:17Speaker 2: letting me be part of this show.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Lots to get to today, though.
- 1:20Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna charge them mount and get this
- 1:22Speaker 2: thing all started in Detroit.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Which what's going on in Detroit right now? Guys? It
- 1:29Speaker 3: is really a motor city. Aprin I think, just beautiful
- 1:33Speaker 3: sweetcases here.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Oh what are we going?
- 1:39Speaker 1: It was me trying to get onto foul territory on YouTube.
- 1:46Speaker 3: A set here. This is why you can't host. We're good,
- 1:55Speaker 3: all right.
- 1:56Speaker 2: As we are going to start the show, we're gonna
- 1:58Speaker 2: charge the mound. We're going to start with the Detroit Tigers,
- 2:01Speaker 2: who are the best team in the American League right now.
- 2:04Speaker 2: And if I was.
- 2:06Speaker 3: To tell you that, I don't think a lot of
- 2:07Speaker 3: people would be surprised.
- 2:08Speaker 2: But if I was to tell you that Hobby Baiez
- 2:11Speaker 2: was one of their better players, was the guy who
- 2:13Speaker 2: offensively was leading them at a big Grand Slam last night?
- 2:16Speaker 2: How surprised, would you be? Because this was somebody that
- 2:19Speaker 2: I don't think it was unpopular for people to say
- 2:22Speaker 2: this winner, that they should release.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Him, that you know, perhaps you know cut.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Ties, you know, either designate for assignment or just kind
- 2:29Speaker 2: of find a trade for a team that wants to
- 2:31Speaker 2: take a bunch of that money on. For those who
- 2:33Speaker 2: aren't familiar, Hobby Bayez signed a big I believe it
- 2:37Speaker 2: was six years, one forty before the twenty twenty two season.
- 2:40Speaker 2: So now is it looks like a changed man. What
- 2:45Speaker 2: do you guys got on Hovey Bayas so far?
- 2:48Speaker 1: Totally, totally.
- 2:50Speaker 4: It's small sample size, but it's good for the Tigers
- 2:52Speaker 4: and it's good for Hovey Baya's. He's playing center field now,
- 2:55Speaker 4: he's kind of bouncing around. He's playing third base. Listen,
- 2:58Speaker 4: it's great to see Howvey Bia sixty. The baseball is
- 3:00Speaker 4: better when Hobby Baya's is a good player because he's fun.
- 3:03Speaker 1: People like watching him. He's exciting.
- 3:05Speaker 4: I mean, if he could just cut down on the
- 3:06Speaker 4: swing and miss and do what he's doing now, he
- 3:09Speaker 4: can be a really good player. And this is the
- 3:10Speaker 4: player that the Tigers thought they were getting when they signed him.
- 3:12Speaker 4: To that huge deal.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Swing and missing the zone has never been Hobby's issue.
- 3:17Speaker 1: It's swinging miss outside of the zone that has been
- 3:20Speaker 1: the issue. I mean, I think his chase right and
- 3:24Speaker 1: some kind of stat I don't even know what it is.
- 3:26Speaker 1: It's like, oh swing or something. It's outside of the zone.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Your swings, I think at one point was like at
- 3:32Speaker 1: like forty seven percent, which some big league pitchers have
- 3:36Speaker 1: a tough time getting the ball that far out of
- 3:38Speaker 1: the zone. But when it's Hovey bayas you see all
- 3:41Speaker 1: the memes and stuff of like first pitches that he's
- 3:43Speaker 1: swinging at and stuff like that, it got to a
- 3:47Speaker 1: point where it was a little bit funny before because
- 3:50Speaker 1: he was still producing. And then when he got to
- 3:52Speaker 1: this new contract, a little extra a little extra pressure
- 3:56Speaker 1: on it, and you know, those kind of things started
- 3:59Speaker 1: to curtail into not as much success. Is he is
- 4:03Speaker 1: it gonna last? Is he gonna hit three hundred this year?
- 4:06Speaker 1: Probably not? Is he going to improve on where he
- 4:09Speaker 1: was last year? Absolutely, because of the fact that his
- 4:13Speaker 1: swing right out of the zone has gone down significantly.
- 4:16Speaker 1: I think it's close like ten or twelve percent, which
- 4:21Speaker 1: is a crazy adjustment. He can keep that going. That's awesome.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yeah, what's interesting you guys, he closed his dance, he
- 4:30Speaker 2: changed where his hands are. But I wonder you guys
- 4:33Speaker 2: would be better able to answer this as former players.
- 4:36Speaker 2: But they did what they did last year without him.
- 4:38Speaker 2: They had a terrific run with Hobby Bayas on the bench.
- 4:42Speaker 2: So you wonder for a guy like that, if Ego
- 4:45Speaker 2: plays into it a little, well, they don't need Hobby
- 4:47Speaker 2: Bias to be good, right, this is a good team
- 4:50Speaker 2: without Hobby Bayaz. And you know, maybe he's a little
- 4:52Speaker 2: more accepting of you know, I will play different positions
- 4:54Speaker 2: and you've seen that he's moved around a j. Hinch
- 4:56Speaker 2: is a manager not afraid to use everyone on the
- 4:59Speaker 2: roster do unorthodox thing. So how much can that factor
- 5:03Speaker 2: in knowing that, like, hey, there's some great stuff that's
- 5:05Speaker 2: going on in Detroit and I can either be a
- 5:08Speaker 2: part of it or it's gonna all pass me by.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Like does that factor in here a little as well?
- 5:12Speaker 2: Do you guys think?
- 5:13Speaker 4: Of course, to Ego blow, so you goo blow if
- 5:15Speaker 4: you if you look at I mean, look at Ronald
- 5:17Speaker 4: m'cunya and what people said about him when they won
- 5:20Speaker 4: without him in twenty one and they haven't won with
- 5:23Speaker 4: him since, and you know, so, yeah, it's an ego thing.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Ronal m'cuney got a World Series ring, but he wasn't
- 5:30Speaker 4: there when they were on the field and actually celebrated it,
- 5:32Speaker 4: So I'm sure he wants it. Aavi Bayas wasn't a
- 5:35Speaker 4: part of it when they got hot and made their
- 5:37Speaker 4: run into the postseason, So yeah, there's definitely an ego
- 5:39Speaker 4: blow there that he wants to fix and wants to Listen,
- 5:42Speaker 4: you always want to prove that you're worth the contract.
- 5:45Speaker 4: Sometimes it's impossible, but he wants to prove all the
- 5:48Speaker 4: doubters wrong, which every person should want to. If you're
- 5:52Speaker 4: a competitor and a professional baseball.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Player, you're kind of almost like fomo, like you're like,
- 5:56Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that. And we've
- 5:58Speaker 1: seen some shortstops at letic shortstops go to the outfield
- 6:03Speaker 1: and have success. Is he gonna win a Gold Glove?
- 6:05Speaker 1: I don't think so, but let's put it this way.
- 6:08Speaker 1: He's doing a good job out there and he looks like,
- 6:11Speaker 1: you know, when he's in the lineup, he's almost hitting
- 6:13Speaker 1: three hundred. We saw Fernando Tatis go to the outfield
- 6:16Speaker 1: and win. I think a platinum glove at least a
- 6:17Speaker 1: gold glove in right field. So he's not up there
- 6:21Speaker 1: in age where he can't make this transition, and I
- 6:23Speaker 1: think he's out there trying to do whatever he can
- 6:26Speaker 1: to help a team win. That is a good team.
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- 7:28Speaker 2: Obviously, though Bias last night a big the big blow
- 7:30Speaker 2: in seven to four win over Houston. I think when
- 7:33Speaker 2: you look at what he's doing, you guys are right,
- 7:35Speaker 2: it's not sustainable over You know, we make a mistake
- 7:38Speaker 2: of looking in April and saying, like, you know, are
- 7:40Speaker 2: the Rockies going to lose one hundred and thirty five games? Right?
- 7:43Speaker 2: All these trends are so you know, it's so hard
- 7:46Speaker 2: to analyze them. But I think Hovey Bias is off
- 7:49Speaker 2: to a better start than he has been. I think
- 7:50Speaker 2: Detroit things are really looking up. You can make the
- 7:53Speaker 2: case that they maybe are the best team in the
- 7:56Speaker 2: American League and that it's not just a flukey April
- 7:58Speaker 2: very strong, and maybe Hobby Bias, as he continues to
- 8:03Speaker 2: have a bounce back season, can kind of be the
- 8:04Speaker 2: leader that they've been looking for. Because one of the
- 8:06Speaker 2: first things aj Hinch did when he took that job
- 8:09Speaker 2: was went and traveled to Hobby Bias in the off
- 8:11Speaker 2: season and really tried to convince him to get on board.
- 8:15Speaker 2: But the new regime and where this team was going
- 8:17Speaker 2: and I think it's hard to lead when you're not
- 8:19Speaker 2: playing well, when you're not performing when you're not on
- 8:21Speaker 2: the field. So hopefully for Hobby Bias and the Tigers,
- 8:24Speaker 2: this can all lead to him taking a better role
- 8:28Speaker 2: in what is still a ridiculously.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Young clubhouse guys.
- 8:31Speaker 2: I almost wrote a story when they advanced about all
- 8:34Speaker 2: the things that they were missing by playing deep in October.
- 8:37Speaker 2: And these guys are so young, they were all going
- 8:38Speaker 2: to miss their bachelor parties. Like they don't have kids,
- 8:41Speaker 2: they don't have anything else to attend. But basically they
- 8:43Speaker 2: all got married this offseason. As you guys know, it
- 8:46Speaker 2: goes in waves. So had the Tigers advanced, really four
- 8:50Speaker 2: or five of those guys would have missed like their
- 8:51Speaker 2: bachelor parties.
- 8:52Speaker 3: I don't think anybody would have missed their wedding.
- 8:54Speaker 2: But it was definitely a case of these young guys
- 8:57Speaker 2: making plans the end of October not realizing, hey, we
- 9:00Speaker 2: could surprise some people. So really an interesting story there,
- 9:03Speaker 2: but over in the division as well. Over still in
- 9:07Speaker 2: the Al Central, how about the Kansas City Royals. After
- 9:09Speaker 2: a really rough start to the season, now they are
- 9:13Speaker 2: on a little bit.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Of a run here.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Friend of the show and pass Quentino with a home
- 9:17Speaker 2: run last night. What are you guys seeing from them?
- 9:20Speaker 2: And I actually picked them to finish second right under
- 9:23Speaker 2: the Tigers in the central. I think they're a good team.
- 9:25Speaker 2: I think they're a savvy front office. I think that
- 9:28Speaker 2: they've really addressed some of their holes over the past year.
- 9:31Speaker 2: What do you guys like about the way that they're
- 9:33Speaker 2: playing right now as a team.
- 9:35Speaker 1: They're starting to pitch. They need to pitch, and they
- 9:37Speaker 1: started to pitch. Cameron last night was unbelievable. But they're pitching.
- 9:41Speaker 1: That's the key for them. They got to get some
- 9:42Speaker 1: offense going. Passquatch is nice to see him get going.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Salvey hasn't gotten going. Bobby wits not at the level
- 9:48Speaker 1: although he has the hitting streak, not the level where
- 9:50Speaker 1: he was last year. But they're pitching. Is what they
- 9:52Speaker 1: were built on last year with Lugo Waka, the two lefties.
- 9:57Speaker 4: Boobitch and Reagan's and then you throw in Cameron. This
- 10:00Speaker 4: is what the team is built on, pitching, defense and
- 10:02Speaker 4: getting timely hits. And last I Noah Cameron was outstanding.
- 10:05Speaker 4: One of the best first starts you'll ever see.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Can't get much better. Can't get much better than that
- 10:10Speaker 1: in the debut, especially when he debuted in a minor
- 10:13Speaker 1: league park, so maybe he feel comfortable. Maybe that helped him.
- 10:16Speaker 1: But this team is always besides when aj first got
- 10:20Speaker 1: called up to the big leagues, when that team would
- 10:23Speaker 1: just bludgeon you to death and they'd lose eleven to ten.
- 10:26Speaker 1: This team in their last successful run since you know, thirteen,
- 10:31Speaker 1: fourteen to fifteen, they had a younger crew of position players.
- 10:35Speaker 1: But it's built on defense and pitching because of how
- 10:37Speaker 1: the park is. And when this team doesn't pitch, they
- 10:41Speaker 1: don't do well. That I mean, I get it. They
- 10:43Speaker 1: had the MVP can and and MVP candidate in Bobby
- 10:48Speaker 1: wit Junior. But this team, you're just never going to
- 10:52Speaker 1: be able to hit a ton because of the way
- 10:54Speaker 1: that that park is. You know, it just it holds down.
- 10:58Speaker 1: It holds down offense a little bit. So this pitching
- 11:00Speaker 1: continues to do what they're doing because that bullpen they
- 11:03Speaker 1: added pieces last year, they added Carlos Esteves this year
- 11:08Speaker 1: in the offseason and a free agent signing. Like this
- 11:12Speaker 1: pitching staff is legit, and they weren't legit until this
- 11:15Speaker 1: recent hot streak, so you expect those guys to pick
- 11:19Speaker 1: it up. Are they going to hold it at this level?
- 11:21Speaker 1: I don't know. The Tigers are tough. The Tigers. Tigers
- 11:25Speaker 1: aren't going to make it as easy for him as
- 11:27Speaker 1: the rule as the Twins did for the Royals last year.
- 11:32Speaker 3: And they won eight of nine.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Right now, guys, and also shout out to home played
- 11:36Speaker 2: umpire Nick Lentz, who basically had a perfect game. I
- 11:40Speaker 2: guess in the Kansas City Tampa Bay game. That's pretty incredible.
- 11:43Speaker 2: We trash umpires when they're terrible. We should give you
- 11:46Speaker 2: your flowers when you do good as well. Here's his
- 11:48Speaker 2: scorecard for thirty. Look at that right there. I mean,
- 11:53Speaker 2: that's that's pretty good. I don't know if you can
- 11:55Speaker 2: get better than that. Well, yeah, I agree with you, guys. Yeah.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Like Kansas City, I mean they're they're a good team,
- 12:04Speaker 2: but they have such a small margin for error. I
- 12:05Speaker 2: feel like they always do in that market. You mentioned
- 12:09Speaker 2: Cratsey the pitching. Their pitching staff last year was the
- 12:11Speaker 2: number one in defensive run safe So they're not just pitchers.
- 12:14Speaker 2: They're guys who are very athletic on the field. They
- 12:16Speaker 2: make like a big competition out of pfps in spring
- 12:19Speaker 2: training where they're trying to like be the top one
- 12:21Speaker 2: to win money, and they really do a good job
- 12:26Speaker 2: kind of saying this is the Royals way. The Guardians
- 12:28Speaker 2: do something similar, right, where like these small market teams
- 12:31Speaker 2: have to adopt this mantra in this like style of
- 12:34Speaker 2: play to maximize the talent because they aren't going out
- 12:37Speaker 2: there and signing these huge free agents. Though. I will
- 12:40Speaker 2: say what they have done under John Sherman has been
- 12:43Speaker 2: impressive in spending money, in raising the floor of what
- 12:47Speaker 2: they can spend.
- 12:50Speaker 1: They want a new stadium, thank you. They want a
- 12:52Speaker 1: new stadium, and that's the best way to do it
- 12:54Speaker 1: is put a team on the field that's going to win.
- 12:56Speaker 1: It's also they're they're seeing their they're seeing their window
- 13:00Speaker 1: to be able to capitalize the huge contract that they
- 13:03Speaker 1: gave to Bobby with in his prime.
- 13:07Speaker 2: All right, This.
- 13:08Speaker 3: From Ben Nicholson Smith.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Another game changing performance from Jeff Hoffman is the third
- 13:12Speaker 2: time the Blue Jays have asked him to go two
- 13:14Speaker 2: innings this month. Third time he's pitched two scoreless, never
- 13:17Speaker 2: exceeding twenty seven pitches to get the job done. Hats
- 13:20Speaker 2: off to Jeff Hoffman what he's been able to do
- 13:23Speaker 2: so far really interesting, guys, because if you remember, there
- 13:26Speaker 2: was like a bunch of other teams interested in him,
- 13:29Speaker 2: and then there were some.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Issues with physicals. I know the Orioles in Atlanta.
- 13:33Speaker 2: So good on Jeff Hofflin for saying, you know what,
- 13:35Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with this arm.
- 13:36Speaker 3: I'm going to go out and hub. That's exactly what he's.
- 13:39Speaker 4: Done, blowing kisses to your team, Brets, blowing kisses to
- 13:44Speaker 4: your team after they didn't sign him. Maybe he's saying,
- 13:49Speaker 4: you guys should have signed me. I'm just thinking that.
- 13:51Speaker 4: Maybe he's thinking, hey, Orioles, you guys need a late
- 13:54Speaker 4: ending reliever that could help you. Guys, maybe you should
- 13:56Speaker 4: have stuck with me. But they did it, and now
- 13:59Speaker 4: he gets to blow kiss as Joe and I love it.
- 14:01Speaker 1: I love it, I love the smoke, get after it.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Big win for the Blue Jays last night over the
- 14:07Speaker 2: Red Sox. I thought that game was over, guys, I
- 14:08Speaker 2: mean I was. You know, you try and keep track
- 14:10Speaker 2: of so many games. It's six nothing. I'm like, eh,
- 14:13Speaker 2: I'll focus in on another game. I was watching the
- 14:15Speaker 2: Yankees Orioles for a while and then all of a sudden,
- 14:17Speaker 2: Toronto a huge, huge, comeback huge for a team that offensively,
- 14:22Speaker 2: you've been kind of waiting for them. They're you know,
- 14:24Speaker 2: they've been pitching, but you've just been kind of waiting
- 14:26Speaker 2: for the bats to follow. And that's the kind of
- 14:28Speaker 2: win that could, you know, maybe kind of get them
- 14:32Speaker 2: going in another direction here. I love a good subtweet cratzy,
- 14:37Speaker 2: especially when it's juicy and it's about the Angels. This
- 14:40Speaker 2: is former big leaders at cos Art basically confirming what
- 14:43Speaker 2: we all know that the Angels have the worst travel
- 14:45Speaker 2: and he said, not only has the team exhausted, but
- 14:48Speaker 2: I know this is a big reason.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Why they have so many injuries.
- 14:52Speaker 2: So it is no longer just us kind of opining,
- 14:57Speaker 2: and Sam Bloom obviously got the conversation started recently writing
- 15:00Speaker 2: this article kind of analyzing the data. Guys, there's no
- 15:03Speaker 2: question in my mind that this is Lady Marino's way
- 15:06Speaker 2: of squeezing last dollars out of the fans, just like
- 15:10Speaker 2: he preferred and sometimes yelled at managers for starting shoheyo
- 15:14Speaker 2: tani on the road. Is there gonna be enough public
- 15:18Speaker 2: shame to get this changed or altered at any way,
- 15:21Speaker 2: or do the Angels simply not care?
- 15:24Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. It's angels. You can't lump
- 15:25Speaker 1: them all in. It's whoever's making the decision to be
- 15:28Speaker 1: a money grubbing, five thousand extra tickets sold type of owner.
- 15:35Speaker 1: And you look at a team and you're like, wow,
- 15:37Speaker 1: these guys they go out and get guys, They go
- 15:39Speaker 1: out and get big time spending free agents. They haven't
- 15:43Speaker 1: always worked out. I get it, but they had two
- 15:45Speaker 1: of the best players, if not the two best players
- 15:48Speaker 1: on the planet for a long time. And you say, well,
- 15:51Speaker 1: why can't they win? And everyone points out you didn't
- 15:53Speaker 1: make enough pitching. Art doesn't like pitching, you know. And
- 15:56Speaker 1: then there's a little bit player development stuff where they
- 15:59Speaker 1: don't give those guys enough to develop. It's all revolved
- 16:02Speaker 1: around pinching pennies in the wrong scenarios and it goes
- 16:08Speaker 1: to Artie Morino and I really think this is trash.
- 16:11Speaker 1: And I said it before. It's a minor league thing
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- 17:18Speaker 6: Summer.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Come to do a similar thing in Saint Louis with
- 17:20Speaker 1: some of the position players. What's what's your reaction to
- 17:24Speaker 1: coming out of the game in the second anage?
- 17:26Speaker 7: Disappointing for sure, definitely don't want to have the bullpen
- 17:29Speaker 7: out the end of third and kind of rolling off
- 17:32Speaker 7: that last star.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Just same thing. Just disappointed.
- 17:36Speaker 7: But I mean it's not our decisions. I probably would
- 17:41Speaker 7: have made the same decision if I was him, So
- 17:42Speaker 7: just gotta be.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Better, guys.
- 17:47Speaker 2: What does what does this do? Obviously this is Pat
- 17:50Speaker 2: Murphy kind of sending a message again, Uh, what does
- 17:53Speaker 2: pulling a guy like Myers after two kind of spotty
- 17:56Speaker 2: innings do for that clubhouse?
- 17:58Speaker 3: Do for that team?
- 17:59Speaker 1: Do you think nothing? They won the game. Nothing, They
- 18:04Speaker 1: won the game, so it doesn't matter. That's it. They
- 18:06Speaker 1: won the game.
- 18:07Speaker 4: So Tyler Alexander came in and pitch grade the rest
- 18:10Speaker 4: of the bullpen pitch grade and they won the game.
- 18:12Speaker 4: So yeah, it sucks for Tobias Myers, but we like him.
- 18:16Speaker 4: He's a nice guy and he had a great year
- 18:18Speaker 4: last year and he's doing good. But Murph is just saying,
- 18:22Speaker 4: we need to win the game and you weren't getting
- 18:23Speaker 4: it done. So we went to somebody else and they
- 18:25Speaker 4: won the game. So that's all that matters at the
- 18:26Speaker 4: end of the day. You win the game.
- 18:29Speaker 1: The Brewers try to figure out how to piece everything
- 18:31Speaker 1: together to do exactly what AJ said, win the game,
- 18:34Speaker 1: and maybe you know, we're correlating it with Ah, they
- 18:38Speaker 1: didn't play good defense last week and Murph was kind
- 18:41Speaker 1: of calling those guys out when they had a closed
- 18:44Speaker 1: door team meeting, and then everything that was talked about
- 18:47Speaker 1: has been expressed. So I don't know how closed door
- 18:50Speaker 1: it was, but like, that's what you have to do.
- 18:54Speaker 1: They don't have they don't have the ace of the
- 18:57Speaker 1: staff anymore. They don't have the like Mark Key guys.
- 19:00Speaker 1: And if Murph feels like he has to make examples
- 19:03Speaker 1: out of guys that say, hey, you know what, you
- 19:05Speaker 1: weren't up to par in this situation, We're going to
- 19:08Speaker 1: go to some guys who are hats off to Murph.
- 19:11Speaker 1: And that's how you win Manager of the Year if
- 19:14Speaker 1: your team keeps winning.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty pretty spicy move here for April. But you know,
- 19:20Speaker 2: we'll see how that works out. I think Milwaukee has
- 19:23Speaker 2: a lot of people thought not going to dominate the
- 19:26Speaker 2: NL Central any longer. This is gonna be a little
- 19:28Speaker 2: bit more of a dogfight, I think going in. But
- 19:31Speaker 2: there was a lot of spicy stuff happening last night.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Did you guys watch the Orioles Yankees game on Prime
- 19:37Speaker 2: Video last night.
- 19:39Speaker 3: I watch this, here we go.
- 19:41Speaker 1: I don't understand this. I don't understand why we're.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Making Apparently this dates back to last season a little
- 19:47Speaker 2: bit with Heshtin. Kurstad thought it was intentional. The best
- 19:51Speaker 2: part about this whole thing, though, guys, is, you know
- 19:52Speaker 2: there's not really fights in baseball anymore. I love how
- 19:55Speaker 2: this is going on here. And then you see in
- 19:56Speaker 2: the corner the bullpen guys on running out. Totallyewash these
- 20:00Speaker 2: guys going to do by the time they get to
- 20:01Speaker 2: this here. This is what Heston took exception too. He
- 20:04Speaker 2: thought it was on purpose.
- 20:08Speaker 1: That was just the matrix.
- 20:09Speaker 4: I mean, I know some people think we live in
- 20:11Speaker 4: the matrix, but you can just float in the air.
- 20:13Speaker 4: He's got to come down at some point, and he
- 20:15Speaker 4: just having to land on him.
- 20:16Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 20:17Speaker 4: The throat took him right into. It wasn't like he
- 20:19Speaker 4: stepped on him or did anything. I don't know it was.
- 20:22Speaker 4: It was kind of crazy. But I don't know.
- 20:24Speaker 1: The bullpen's running in too.
- 20:25Speaker 4: They had the Yankees bullpen had to wait for the Orioles,
- 20:28Speaker 4: But why don't they.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Just fight in the bullpen? Let's just have him like
- 20:32Speaker 1: you know, I don't know.
- 20:33Speaker 4: You can have Devin Williams off the top rope on
- 20:35Speaker 4: the mountain and see if he catches him in the air,
- 20:38Speaker 4: like I don't know. Because the Yankees bullpen is above
- 20:40Speaker 4: the Orioles bullpen, the Orioles are going to try to
- 20:42Speaker 4: figure out how to take the high ground to be
- 20:44Speaker 4: more entertaining than what we got.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Yeah. Brian Hokee, Yankees longtime Yankees dot Com reporter, just
- 20:50Speaker 2: tweeted up on that full screen there that he had
- 20:52Speaker 2: downstairs neighbor who'd bang on the ceiling every time I walked,
- 20:56Speaker 2: especially if I used the bathroom in the middle of
- 20:58Speaker 2: the night. It's my fault for a learning not learning
- 21:01Speaker 2: to levitate. Pablo Reys can probably relate. Yeah, this whole
- 21:04Speaker 2: thing is silly, very silly. I think a lot of
- 21:07Speaker 2: it too. On the Oriole side, guys, it's probably frustration.
- 21:10Speaker 2: You're playing the Yankees, you're trying to win the series,
- 21:12Speaker 2: which they did end up doing. But there's always been
- 21:15Speaker 2: a little bit of that little brother syndrome. And you know,
- 21:18Speaker 2: Yankee fans come to Camden Yards, they make all this noise.
- 21:21Speaker 2: The Orioles always feel like even these home games oftentimes
- 21:26Speaker 2: are yank home games, so I think that had a
- 21:28Speaker 2: little bit to it as well. There's been a lot
- 21:30Speaker 2: of people on edge in Baltimore. But yeah, this was
- 21:33Speaker 2: taken totally out of context. I would love to see
- 21:35Speaker 2: a bullpen on bullpen fight. I would pay to see
- 21:38Speaker 2: a bullpen on bullpen fight. But let's be real. These
- 21:40Speaker 2: guys are running out from the bullpen. No one is
- 21:42Speaker 2: prepared to throw punches. They're just running out because everyone
- 21:44Speaker 2: else is running out and they're bored, right.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Iwash iwash, and they will be danger It's dangerous unless
- 21:51Speaker 1: they changed it. They used to have like cobblestone steps
- 21:54Speaker 1: coming down from the bullpen and Camden yards and it's
- 21:58Speaker 1: dangerous as walking out there. So you can't have people
- 22:00Speaker 1: running out let alone. The bullpen guys are never gonna
- 22:03Speaker 1: fight each other because they're you know, bullpen comrades out there.
- 22:07Speaker 1: But I'm gonna bring this a little bit more back
- 22:09Speaker 1: to like reality. I get it why Heston Kurstad was pissed,
- 22:13Speaker 1: not in a baseball sense. Next time you bang your
- 22:15Speaker 1: head in your house, think about what Heston Kurstad was thinking.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Because he got hit in the head by a huge
- 22:23Speaker 1: butt he got hit in the head, and like anytime
- 22:26Speaker 1: you get hit in the head, it just for some reason,
- 22:28Speaker 1: it makes it makes me angry. Maybe Aj Britt, you
- 22:31Speaker 1: guys are better than me. But when I get hit
- 22:35Speaker 1: in the head, like I bang my head on something,
- 22:38Speaker 1: it just like just irritates me. Gets I don't know,
- 22:42Speaker 1: I don't understand. So maybe that's how he felt.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, guys, I don't know. This has much to
- 22:49Speaker 3: do about nothing, especially in April.
- 22:51Speaker 2: If it's September and these teams are playing to win
- 22:53Speaker 2: the American League East, tensions are high. I'm all in.
- 22:56Speaker 2: I got it. But to me, this seemed like so silly.
- 22:59Speaker 2: And I was watching the broadcast and they didn't show it.
- 23:02Speaker 2: They like later went to it. It was very and
- 23:05Speaker 2: it was a very odd sequence. How Prime did it
- 23:07Speaker 2: last night? So I'm with you, guys. If we're gonna fight,
- 23:10Speaker 2: let's see some real fights. If we're gonna fight, I
- 23:12Speaker 2: want to see like Kevin Gregg trying to punch David
- 23:14Speaker 2: Ortiz when he storms the mound. I don't want to
- 23:17Speaker 2: see bullpen guys empty everyone take up a ton of time,
- 23:20Speaker 2: the game get delayed for literally nothing. So this to
- 23:24Speaker 2: me much to do about nothing. But let's switch gears here.
- 23:28Speaker 2: There is, in my opinion, a little bit of a
- 23:31Speaker 2: concern here out in Arizona. AJ Puke is going on
- 23:35Speaker 2: the IL. They made some roster moves. This to me
- 23:39Speaker 2: is concerning. Look at these moves that they just made.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Earlier today they transferred him to the Sorry, they transferred
- 23:47Speaker 2: him to the sixty dail.
- 23:49Speaker 3: He was expected to be back before then.
- 23:52Speaker 2: So this guy's is kind of screams like he will
- 23:57Speaker 2: not return for the rest of the year. Elbow inflammation
- 24:00Speaker 2: seems like it's going to be something where we don't
- 24:01Speaker 2: see him.
- 24:02Speaker 1: What this sounds like, Tommy John to me, yeah, it does.
- 24:05Speaker 4: I hate I hate saying that too, but you know,
- 24:08Speaker 4: sixty day IL already, there's more than sixty days left
- 24:12Speaker 4: in the ear and usually if they had I know
- 24:15Speaker 4: they needed a roster spot. But this sounds worse than
- 24:17Speaker 4: what they're saying. And I wouldn't be surprised if in
- 24:20Speaker 4: the next few days. And this sucks to say, and
- 24:22Speaker 4: I do not want this to happen, but Puck in
- 24:25Speaker 4: a couple of days are going to see like, oh,
- 24:26Speaker 4: he went to see Measter Meister in Texas to reevaluate
- 24:31Speaker 4: his elbow or Ela Trash to reevaluate get a second opinion.
- 24:35Speaker 4: I hope it doesn't come to that, but sixty days
- 24:37Speaker 4: it sucks.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately for Arizona.
- 24:42Speaker 2: If you look at the West right now, and I
- 24:43Speaker 2: think a lot of people when we did this Front
- 24:46Speaker 2: office poll this spring, talked about how great Arizona was,
- 24:48Speaker 2: how they're a team on the up and up, and
- 24:50Speaker 2: they're a good team. But you just look at the
- 24:52Speaker 2: Dodgers and Padres and the starts that they've jumped out
- 24:55Speaker 2: to and then of course the Giants as well, and
- 24:58Speaker 2: you know, right now Arizona is in fourth place and
- 25:01Speaker 2: really needs a lot of things to click and to
- 25:03Speaker 2: fall into place for them to kind of leap frog
- 25:06Speaker 2: all of these teams. And we'll get some more Padres
- 25:08Speaker 2: talk later.
- 25:09Speaker 3: We got Kevin A. C From the San Diego Union
- 25:11Speaker 3: Tribune and talking to us later.
- 25:12Speaker 2: But I think when you look at Arizona, it's too
- 25:16Speaker 2: early to say panic, but certainly you know they needed
- 25:18Speaker 2: Aja and they needed to kind of find.
- 25:21Speaker 3: A way to win some of these early games.
- 25:23Speaker 2: I feel like the NL West is a division where
- 25:26Speaker 2: you can't afford to have a bad week or a
- 25:28Speaker 2: bad two weeks that you kind of have to be
- 25:30Speaker 2: on your game from the start of the season until
- 25:33Speaker 2: the end of September because it is just going to
- 25:35Speaker 2: be one of, if not the deepest division in baseball
- 25:40Speaker 2: outside of, of course, the obvious caveat that the Colorado
- 25:43Speaker 2: Rockies are in that division.
- 25:44Speaker 3: But you've got four legitimate teams that are in that division.
- 25:49Speaker 4: Right, is the Is the NL West now the AL East?
- 25:52Speaker 4: It used to cover because remember the Alas used to
- 25:55Speaker 4: be the goal? Yeah, is it now the NL West?
- 25:58Speaker 3: I mean I think so. I mean you look at
- 26:00Speaker 3: what the AL East, the AL East.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Every team is flawed.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Like you know, I was talking about this the other day.
- 26:05Speaker 2: If the Yankees are the best team right now in
- 26:07Speaker 2: the AL East, if we're going by like how we
- 26:10Speaker 2: are judging records, right, they're still in first place even
- 26:12Speaker 2: though they lost that series.
- 26:14Speaker 3: I believe in the Red Sox are right behind them. Yeah,
- 26:15Speaker 3: they're a game and half up on the Red Sox.
- 26:18Speaker 2: They're flawed. They've had like three players that are playing well, really,
- 26:21Speaker 2: Rodan Freed and Judge. The rest of their lineup hasn't
- 26:24Speaker 2: done anything. The Oriels have been a train wreck. Toronto
- 26:26Speaker 2: has been missing power for quite some time. We heard
- 26:29Speaker 2: Pete talk a little bit about the issues with Boston
- 26:31Speaker 2: and Tampa Bay's having a little bit of a down year.
- 26:34Speaker 2: We expected that, So I think that, you know, when
- 26:37Speaker 2: you look at divisions, definitely the National League as a
- 26:40Speaker 2: whole is stronger, but the National League West is a
- 26:42Speaker 2: lot deeper. I think the NL East is a tough
- 26:44Speaker 2: division because you've got the Mets who are playing extremely well.
- 26:48Speaker 2: You know, the Phillies are going to be better, and
- 26:49Speaker 2: Atlanta got off to that brutal start. But I think
- 26:51Speaker 2: we all know they're a little.
- 26:52Speaker 3: Bit of an issue. So yeah, I think so.
- 26:57Speaker 2: I don't think the AL East is this big power division.
- 27:00Speaker 2: May take eighty eight wins to win the American LEAGUEES
- 27:02Speaker 2: this year, which makes it all the more frustrating. I
- 27:04Speaker 2: think if you're an Orioles fan in that this division
- 27:07Speaker 2: is wide open, and the front office went out and
- 27:10Speaker 2: got no one and got nothing and did nothing on
- 27:13Speaker 2: the pitching side. So certainly the NLS, because I think
- 27:15Speaker 2: if the Padres were in another division, they'd be leading it.
- 27:20Speaker 3: Don't you guys think? Are the Padres in the top
- 27:22Speaker 3: handful of teams in baseball?
- 27:24Speaker 1: Right now?
- 27:24Speaker 3: I'm going to say yes, based on how they've played.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, And I think the Yankees are probably one
- 27:31Speaker 1: and two with the Tigers and the best teams in
- 27:34Speaker 1: the American League. And I would fight against you. I
- 27:37Speaker 1: think the guys in the Yankees lineup, which is banging
- 27:42Speaker 1: out home runs that are doing well, are not the
- 27:45Speaker 1: like star studded names, the Vulpies, the Bellingers, the Jazz Chisholms.
- 27:52Speaker 1: You know, it's Trent Grisham who is coming off, was
- 27:56Speaker 1: coming off the bench. Now he's earned a spot. It's
- 27:58Speaker 1: Ben Rice, it's Paul Goldschmid who's had a resurgence. So
- 28:02Speaker 1: their lineup is still vaunted. It's just not the media
- 28:05Speaker 1: darlings that everybody's like, well, Cody's gonna come over and
- 28:08Speaker 1: he's gonna have an MVP year, and Jazz is so
- 28:12Speaker 1: glitzy and glamory, and it's so different. Guys are doing
- 28:16Speaker 1: it there. It's not. And that's obviously, you know, judges
- 28:20Speaker 1: other worldly. But I don't think. I don't think the
- 28:23Speaker 1: AL East is what the NL West is right now?
- 28:30Speaker 3: AJ, are you going to petition for the AL Central?
- 28:34Speaker 2: No?
- 28:34Speaker 1: For what they didn't meet three teams in the playoffs
- 28:36Speaker 1: last year, though they did get three teams last year. No,
- 28:39Speaker 1: I'm not partitioning for the AL Central. I mean the
- 28:41Speaker 1: only way.
- 28:41Speaker 4: I I just meant, you know, when I asked that
- 28:44Speaker 4: question Bright, it was remember back in the day, I
- 28:46Speaker 4: remember forever, it was, oh, man, how do you ever
- 28:48Speaker 4: get through the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Blue Jays, Right,
- 28:51Speaker 4: the Orioles are up and coming, the Rays always seem
- 28:53Speaker 4: to make the playoffs. Well, now you look at it
- 28:55Speaker 4: and you say, the Dodgers, the Padres, the Giants, the
- 28:58Speaker 4: d Backs, and then you have another team division we
- 29:00Speaker 4: don't talk about it, have five wins. But that's that
- 29:03Speaker 4: was kind of my point is like it used to
- 29:05Speaker 4: be such a gauntlet to get Whoever got through the
- 29:07Speaker 4: AL East is going to represent the AL in the
- 29:10Speaker 4: World Series. And now it's like, man, if you can
- 29:12Speaker 4: get through the NL West, then you have a great
- 29:14Speaker 4: chance to represent the NL and the World Series.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. I think you're seeing the power
- 29:22Speaker 2: kind of shift a little bit. I mean, if you're
- 29:24Speaker 2: a team right now and you're in the American League,
- 29:26Speaker 2: like if you're Detroit, they're what the fifth or sixth
- 29:29Speaker 2: best team. If they're in the National League so it is.
- 29:31Speaker 2: It's a totally different setup. It's a totally different ballgame,
- 29:35Speaker 2: I think, and I think for this Yankee team, a
- 29:37Speaker 2: lot of it was injuries, Like if Garrett Cole was pitching,
- 29:40Speaker 2: if a little bit more of their lineup was contributing,
- 29:42Speaker 2: maybe they'd be a little bit scarier. But to me,
- 29:44Speaker 2: there's just not really any scary teams in the American
- 29:47Speaker 2: League like there is in the National League at all.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Look at this guy's the highest stolen basis percentage in
- 29:52Speaker 2: m We'll be history minimum one hundred steals.
- 29:54Speaker 3: This is courtesy of Aaron Glehman.
- 29:55Speaker 2: With the athletic we've got Byron Buxton, Kyle Tucker, Chase Utley,
- 29:59Speaker 2: under Cement, Carlos Beltron.
- 30:01Speaker 3: This is this is impressive. This is now in the era.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Of course, when we're looking at of bigger bases of
- 30:08Speaker 2: guys being encouraged to steal. I think we are now
- 30:12Speaker 2: seeing the stolen bases come back over the last couple years.
- 30:15Speaker 3: It's now a big part of guys games. It's important speed.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Speed is being valued again, and you know, if you
- 30:22Speaker 2: are an elite, prolific base runner, there's no reason why
- 30:25Speaker 2: you can't steal forty fifty bags, kind of like Aj
- 30:28Speaker 2: Prazinski in his prime.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Yes, I think my career high was too. But I
- 30:34Speaker 1: love this.
- 30:35Speaker 4: But the only thing I don't love about this is
- 30:37Speaker 4: these dudes need to be stealing more. Why is if
- 30:40Speaker 4: you can steal Byron Bucks and what the heck?
- 30:42Speaker 2: Man?
- 30:42Speaker 4: You need to be going like every time you're on
- 30:44Speaker 4: first I know you got some injury problems. Andrea Semenez like,
- 30:47Speaker 4: let's go many If I'm on your team, I'm telling him, like, go,
- 30:50Speaker 4: if you're eighty seven percent whatever it is, you go,
- 30:53Speaker 4: you go, you go, you go. Every chance you get,
- 30:55Speaker 4: you go, you go. You just stop by high five
- 30:57Speaker 4: to the first base coach and go to a second.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Byron Boxer. We gotta we know stone bases can get
- 31:07Speaker 1: to you. And if you got leg issues, don't know.
- 31:11Speaker 1: And I know Chase Utley, he came up in the
- 31:13Speaker 1: Davy Lopes era, coaching first base with the Phillies. Davy
- 31:17Speaker 1: would just be like, look, when I tell you to go,
- 31:20Speaker 1: you're gonna make.
- 31:20Speaker 2: It all right, guys, look at beef it is may
- 31:24Speaker 2: just look at these Aaron Judge statistics, the first player
- 31:27Speaker 2: in Americ League history with a four hundred plus batting average,
- 31:30Speaker 2: ten or more home runs and thirty or more RBIs
- 31:33Speaker 2: in March slash April minimum one.
- 31:36Speaker 3: Hundred at bats since nineteen twenty.
- 31:38Speaker 2: I mean, you hate to say that things are over
- 31:41Speaker 2: in April, but it sure looks like the al MVP
- 31:44Speaker 2: race is pretty much over as long as Aaron Judge
- 31:47Speaker 2: stays healthy. It is unbelievable watching that game last night,
- 31:50Speaker 2: It's like, well, you kept him in the ballpark, even
- 31:52Speaker 2: though the guy lines a single into the outfield, and
- 31:55Speaker 2: it's almost.
- 31:55Speaker 3: Like, wow, we won against Aaron Judge, is it?
- 31:57Speaker 2: Bat That's how good he is.
- 32:03Speaker 4: To hell of a start, hell of a start, to
- 32:05Speaker 4: hell of a start. It is an absolutely hell of
- 32:07Speaker 4: a start, and all the stats are throwing up there.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Just think about this now, and I'll say this, Barry
- 32:12Speaker 1: Bonds did this for years, just close numbers like this,
- 32:16Speaker 1: so so he did it for years.
- 32:18Speaker 4: As good as we think Judge and o'tani are. Barry
- 32:20Speaker 4: Bonds did this for years.
- 32:21Speaker 1: That's it.
- 32:21Speaker 4: That's my comment, britt. Aaron Judges off to a hell
- 32:24Speaker 4: of a start. Let's see if he can.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Do it for the whole year. Yeah, I mean, to
- 32:28Speaker 1: be able to hit four hundred like it's hard to
- 32:31Speaker 1: surprise you when somebody who should have three MVPs, in
- 32:35Speaker 1: my opinion, a two MVP, two time MVP winner, then
- 32:39Speaker 1: has a start to a season that surprises you like,
- 32:43Speaker 1: this is crazy, but Baseball reference it okay, check out,
- 32:47Speaker 1: check out all the italics in Barry Bond's columns. It's crazy.
- 32:51Speaker 1: But what Judge is doing right now it is. Yeah.
- 32:54Speaker 1: You can't even you can't even really bet on the
- 32:56Speaker 1: MVP right now because he's locking it up.
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- 33:41Speaker 2: All right, guys, this is from the Baltimore Suns. Jacob
- 33:44Speaker 2: Calvin Meyer was on the show recently. He talked to
- 33:46Speaker 2: eight Orioles players, including team leaders, former top prospects Leada YadA. Basically,
- 33:52Speaker 2: though everybody said, manager Brandon Hyde, we have his back.
- 33:57Speaker 3: He has not lost the clubhouse.
- 34:00Speaker 2: This to me, the fact that we even need this
- 34:02Speaker 2: kind of a story speaks to the start that they've had.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Do I think the Brandon Hyde is the problem?
- 34:09Speaker 3: No, I don't do.
- 34:10Speaker 2: I also think that the manager is almost always the
- 34:13Speaker 2: sacrificial land before the GM when things go south. Yes,
- 34:17Speaker 2: history has told us that, and I think people who
- 34:20Speaker 2: aren't familiar with the Orioles maybe are not aware. The
- 34:23Speaker 2: Oriols made coaching changes. They took guys off a hide
- 34:26Speaker 2: staff last winter after they got swept out of the playoffs.
- 34:29Speaker 2: So that is always kind of the warning shot, if
- 34:32Speaker 2: you will, like we are going to get some coaches
- 34:35Speaker 2: out of here, we get some fresh faces in here.
- 34:37Speaker 2: The manager always comes next after that, so you know
- 34:40Speaker 2: the players are publicly going to back him. They're always
- 34:43Speaker 2: going to back him. You know, in some cases they're
- 34:45Speaker 2: lying about it. I don't have the reason to believe
- 34:48Speaker 2: that the Ools are lying about this. I think guys
- 34:50Speaker 2: genuinely like playing for him. They like that he doesn't panic.
- 34:54Speaker 2: I think Orioles fans have been really upset about some
- 34:56Speaker 2: of the lineups and the matchups and.
- 34:58Speaker 3: The platooning that he has done.
- 35:00Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, if the Ools
- 35:03Speaker 2: don't turn this around, Brandon Hyde is going to be
- 35:06Speaker 2: the guy on the hot seat. As Ken Rosenthal wrote,
- 35:08Speaker 2: he is on the hot seat and is going to
- 35:10Speaker 2: get hotter and hotter and hotter. I believe that michae
- 35:13Speaker 2: Elias is more responsible for why the Orioles have taken
- 35:16Speaker 2: this nose dive. Brandon Hyde can't pitch for them, he
- 35:19Speaker 2: can't make them have a good rotation. But I think
- 35:22Speaker 2: no matter what the way baseball goes, it always is
- 35:25Speaker 2: blame the manager before you go upstairs. And I expect
- 35:29Speaker 2: that to be the case in Baltimore. If they don't
- 35:31Speaker 2: turn things around here quickly.
- 35:35Speaker 4: What is a player supposed to say? What's the player
- 35:37Speaker 4: supposed to say? No, I hate my manager, he sucks,
- 35:41Speaker 4: he's the problem. Of course, they're going to say they
- 35:43Speaker 4: like him, they want to play, and they want to
- 35:44Speaker 4: be there.
- 35:45Speaker 1: I mean this, listen, I don't know what there's managers.
- 35:50Speaker 4: You played for, Krats, I'm sure that you didn't like,
- 35:52Speaker 4: and the media would come up to you and be like, Oh,
- 35:54Speaker 4: he's awesome, I love him.
- 35:55Speaker 1: We don't like because I want him to play me.
- 35:57Speaker 1: I want to be here. I don't want to be
- 35:58Speaker 1: in tripa a like.
- 36:00Speaker 4: Oh man, yes, but I like Brandon e. He is
- 36:03Speaker 4: not the problem like you said. But Brittany, what you
- 36:05Speaker 4: said is exactly right. They fired some coaches. Freddygan Zalz
- 36:08Speaker 4: a good friend of mine. He got let go.
- 36:10Speaker 1: Some other people got let go. That is usually the
- 36:12Speaker 1: warning shot.
- 36:13Speaker 4: And then the manager's next and then the GM says, oh,
- 36:15Speaker 4: give me five more years to get my manager in place.
- 36:17Speaker 1: That's how it always works. You know what, you know
- 36:20Speaker 1: what gms really want. Besides five years, they went cash
- 36:23Speaker 1: to spend, and to me, michae Elias didn't execute that
- 36:27Speaker 1: cash to spend because he also had some cash and prospects,
- 36:31Speaker 1: and he allowed all these starting pitchers that got traded
- 36:35Speaker 1: or all the starting pitchers that were available, to either
- 36:39Speaker 1: stay at their team or get traded to other teams.
- 36:41Speaker 1: When everybody had this Michae Elias, you know, cachet of
- 36:46Speaker 1: prospects that he could have dipped into, but he wasn't
- 36:49Speaker 1: willing to ownership. Isn't the problem right now because they
- 36:52Speaker 1: gave I think seventy three million for him to spend.
- 36:56Speaker 1: You know what, maybe this could be the case where
- 36:59Speaker 1: the general managers first to go and not the manager
- 37:02Speaker 1: because I've heard nothing but positive and you don't hear
- 37:05Speaker 1: positive from every manager's every manager that's out there, but
- 37:10Speaker 1: everything about Brandon Hyde we've heard, and you know, I
- 37:13Speaker 1: know a lot of people that can back that up too.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, guys, when you look at this
- 37:19Speaker 2: Orioles team, you know they're going to hit, but there's
- 37:21Speaker 2: no solution for the pitching at all. You know, Kyle
- 37:24Speaker 2: Gibson was supposed to kind of give them depth, and
- 37:27Speaker 2: you saw him get Rock give up four home runs
- 37:29Speaker 2: in the first inning against the Yankees, kind of wore
- 37:31Speaker 2: that middle game that they ended up losing. They're hoping
- 37:35Speaker 2: to get back Grayson Rodriguez at some point soon. They're
- 37:38Speaker 2: hoping to get back Zack Eflyn, but at the end
- 37:40Speaker 2: of the day, they just did not create that rotation depth.
- 37:43Speaker 2: And you don't know if it's an easy fix, Like
- 37:46Speaker 2: there's just not these prospects down below. As you mentioned
- 37:49Speaker 2: Cratsey with Elias, I think another knock on him is
- 37:52Speaker 2: we know that they did an exceptional job drafting hitters.
- 37:55Speaker 3: We've seen the position players. They have too many position players.
- 37:58Speaker 2: But they purposely did not take pictures early because it's
- 38:02Speaker 2: risky and they wanted to find some gems in the
- 38:04Speaker 2: later rounds and that was kind of their strategy. And
- 38:07Speaker 2: until they had Brandon Young, who I think debuted recently
- 38:11Speaker 2: this past month. That was the first player that Mike
- 38:13Speaker 2: Elias had drafted, developed, signed and brought up to the
- 38:16Speaker 2: big leagues. And Michaelias, of course took over after the
- 38:19Speaker 2: twenty eighteen season.
- 38:21Speaker 3: It is twenty twenty five.
- 38:23Speaker 2: That is not good enough. If you are not going
- 38:25Speaker 2: to draft develop from within in pitching, if you're not
- 38:28Speaker 2: going to create this pitching lab like the Mats and
- 38:30Speaker 2: make guys better, then you need to go and trade
- 38:32Speaker 2: for a Garrett Crochet. You know. The Orioles like to say, well,
- 38:36Speaker 2: free agents didn't want to sign with us. Corbyn Burns
- 38:38Speaker 2: is a great example. Well then you make those guys
- 38:40Speaker 2: play for you. You find a way to trade for them.
- 38:43Speaker 2: And I don't know why Garrett Crochet is not a
- 38:46Speaker 2: Baltimore Oriole. I still don't know why. I think there
- 38:49Speaker 2: was a absolute no brainer to bring him in, similar
- 38:52Speaker 2: to what they did with Burns in trading him for
- 38:54Speaker 2: a year. You know, they don't like to part with prospects,
- 38:57Speaker 2: but sometimes you have to to get to where you're going.
- 39:00Speaker 2: This year is a last year. Are we going to
- 39:02Speaker 2: in your mind kind of lose another year of this
- 39:05Speaker 2: window because you've got Adley and Gunner and all of
- 39:08Speaker 2: these guys under team control for another year. And if
- 39:10Speaker 2: the Oriols don't go to the playoffs, if the girls
- 39:12Speaker 2: don't win a game in the playoffs, which by the way,
- 39:14Speaker 2: they have not done in a decade, are we going
- 39:16Speaker 2: to sit here and say they're similar to the Toronto
- 39:18Speaker 2: Blue Jays who had this young, enviable core and who
- 39:21Speaker 2: we never saw actually get it done.
- 39:23Speaker 3: I mean, how do you guys view this season? If
- 39:26Speaker 3: it is another lost season?
- 39:28Speaker 1: Just said a waste, a waste, it's a waste.
- 39:35Speaker 4: And we've we've railed on him. We've railed on them
- 39:37Speaker 4: more than anybody about exactly what you're saying, Britt. We've
- 39:39Speaker 4: we've we've railed on them that they should have went
- 39:42Speaker 4: out and got Dylan Cees when he went to the
- 39:44Speaker 4: before he went to the Padres they should have. They
- 39:46Speaker 4: have all these position players in the one trade they
- 39:48Speaker 4: did make the guys in Triple A. Right with the Marlins,
- 39:51Speaker 4: they gave up two of their guys for guy in
- 39:52Speaker 4: Triple A.
- 39:53Speaker 1: So I don't know. Michael Aias is smarter than me.
- 39:56Speaker 1: He knows better than I do, and he's good. He
- 40:00Speaker 1: produced position players. Sometimes it's hard you miss on pitchers.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Maybe you know the staff isn't able to produce pictures
- 40:07Speaker 1: from the minor leagues. That's okay. All we heard about
- 40:11Speaker 1: was the dudes that they did have that were just
- 40:14Speaker 1: murdering Norfolk, and yet Jesus Lozardo went a few miles
- 40:21Speaker 1: north to Philly this offseason. AJ brought up Garrett Crochet.
- 40:25Speaker 1: Teams are willing. I mean, hey, we could have taken
- 40:29Speaker 1: Luis Castillo from the Mariners. He was clearly out there,
- 40:33Speaker 1: but he came with a price tag of twenty five
- 40:35Speaker 1: million a year, I think for four more years, and
- 40:39Speaker 1: somebody's making the decision to not be willing to do that.
- 40:44Speaker 1: It's not Brandon Hyde, it's not Gunner Henderson, it's not
- 40:47Speaker 1: the hitting coaches, it's not the first base coaches. So
- 40:51Speaker 1: it's somewhere somewhere, above them.
- 40:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people are surprised by this.
- 40:58Speaker 2: CBS Sports ran an article recently the biggest surprises good
- 41:02Speaker 2: and bad. The Orioles obviously on the bad side, the
- 41:05Speaker 2: Mariners offense on the positive side. What a surprise do
- 41:09Speaker 2: you got? The Giants also list that is like a
- 41:10Speaker 2: positive surprise. What would you guys say has surprised you?
- 41:14Speaker 2: Has been one of the pleasant let's be optimistic. What
- 41:18Speaker 2: has been a pleasant surprise for you guys here this
- 41:20Speaker 2: first month of the season?
- 41:23Speaker 4: Well, segano for the Orioles, where would they be without him?
- 41:26Speaker 4: That's one we'll start with him. What else has been
- 41:29Speaker 4: a pleasant surprise?
- 41:30Speaker 1: I think. I think the fact that there's some teams
- 41:34Speaker 1: that are in it that we didn't necessarily count on,
- 41:36Speaker 1: like the Giants, is a pleasant surprise to me because
- 41:40Speaker 1: I want to see other teams. Everyone wants to see
- 41:41Speaker 1: other teams, and I like that The Mariners. A lot
- 41:44Speaker 1: of people said, Ah, we don't know they're gonna bean
- 41:46Speaker 1: a good They're in first place, right, so things like that,
- 41:48Speaker 1: that's what I like. I like seeing teams that we
- 41:49Speaker 1: didn't really talk about that have a chance to possibly
- 41:52Speaker 1: get in. I love seeing what the Mets have been
- 41:55Speaker 1: doing because I personally hate it on them and I
- 41:59Speaker 1: personally they had them in third place in the division.
- 42:03Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna make the playoffs. But to
- 42:06Speaker 1: come together like they have as a lineup has been awesome.
- 42:10Speaker 1: But what they're doing in the rotation and the bullpen,
- 42:14Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't go out. We just talked
- 42:16Speaker 1: about Hazus Lozardo, Garrick Crochet and you know, they're probably
- 42:21Speaker 1: more in the Corbyn Burns Max Freed era, but they're
- 42:24Speaker 1: doing all of this with Juan Soto not having a
- 42:27Speaker 1: Jan Soto year yet. And this pitching staff has been
- 42:31Speaker 1: a incredible surprise. And yet David Stearns has done this
- 42:36Speaker 1: for years in Milwaukee, and he did it last year
- 42:40Speaker 1: in New York. So to me, that's a pleasant surprise. Yeah.
- 42:45Speaker 3: I agree.
- 42:46Speaker 2: It's kind of cool to see those fans and the
- 42:48Speaker 2: Mets have just a ridiculous home record. It's cool to
- 42:51Speaker 2: see the fans feed off that and vice versa. You know,
- 42:53Speaker 2: I mentioned the pitching lab in New York, and you know,
- 42:56Speaker 2: you look at Clay Holmes. I mean I was looking
- 42:58Speaker 2: at his advanced stats. This guy, you know, goes from
- 43:01Speaker 2: the bullpen to the rotation as a really strong start
- 43:04Speaker 2: to the season, and he actually should be even better.
- 43:06Speaker 2: His FIP, which is fielding independent percentage of the ERA
- 43:09Speaker 2: half a run lower. I look at David Peterson, you
- 43:12Speaker 2: look at the fact that they're missing like you mentioned
- 43:15Speaker 2: Wan Soto, but they're also missing Sean Maaya, and you
- 43:17Speaker 2: know they've had some injuries in that rotation. So I
- 43:20Speaker 2: think when you look at the Mets, they've been a
- 43:22Speaker 2: real pleasant surprise. The Mariners are a team who I
- 43:25Speaker 2: didn't think could handle any pitching injuries, and they've had
- 43:27Speaker 2: pitching injuries and they've been able to overcome them. I
- 43:30Speaker 2: think watching the Chicago Cubs, who have had a really
- 43:33Speaker 2: really tough start to the season schedule wise, watching them
- 43:37Speaker 2: kind of come out. And Ken had a great article
- 43:40Speaker 2: about how Craig Counsel is playing to the wins at
- 43:43Speaker 2: Wrigley Field, which I didn't realize was such a thing. Aja,
- 43:47Speaker 2: I guess you might be better speaking on this. I
- 43:49Speaker 2: didn't go to Wrigular a lot as a beat writer.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Is that a big thing in just like the win
- 43:55Speaker 2: factor there that why is this new?
- 43:56Speaker 1: Then?
- 43:56Speaker 2: Why is he the first guy be like, hey, we
- 43:58Speaker 2: should not try to hit a home run when the
- 44:00Speaker 2: wind is going in, Like, why is that revolutionary? Why
- 44:04Speaker 2: I haven't that for years?
- 44:06Speaker 1: It wasn't It was the foot of whatever anniversary of
- 44:09Speaker 1: Lee Ilia. The other day he said it. He said it.
- 44:12Speaker 4: He knew Lee Ilia knew back in the day when
- 44:14Speaker 4: he called him out. But it's because when the wind's
- 44:17Speaker 4: blowing in, you can't hit a ball out of there.
- 44:19Speaker 4: So you've got to be able to do small ball.
- 44:21Speaker 4: And then when it's blowing out, you can just hit
- 44:23Speaker 4: a pop up and it goes out. So this is smart.
- 44:25Speaker 4: This how you should play. But you have to have
- 44:26Speaker 4: multi dimensional players that can do different things. You can't
- 44:31Speaker 4: just have guys that go up there and slug or
- 44:33Speaker 4: guys that just hit the ball on the ground.
- 44:34Speaker 1: You have to have both. And if you have that,
- 44:36Speaker 1: that's how you can win. That's how the cub teams
- 44:38Speaker 1: that win have done has had more than one thing
- 44:41Speaker 1: they can do.
- 44:45Speaker 6: Pitching has been at the forefront of the technology revolution
- 44:49Speaker 6: for a long time. This is for at least ten years.
- 44:52Speaker 6: It's at least ten years ahead of hitting, and I
- 44:54Speaker 6: think that we I think that's pretty well known. Prime
- 44:57Speaker 6: example of that is the fact that this offseason, the
- 45:01Speaker 6: kick change. Someone threw one in a game last year,
- 45:04Speaker 6: it was like, oh, that was a weird grip. And
- 45:06Speaker 6: then coming to spring training, there are dozens of guys
- 45:09Speaker 6: who now throw that pitch that is the way. That
- 45:12Speaker 6: is an indicator that pitching has gotten to a place
- 45:14Speaker 6: where you can plug in up does this work into
- 45:17Speaker 6: a little like machine, and then it's like yeah, it does,
- 45:19Speaker 6: and you can just add it and you can go
- 45:21Speaker 6: one day not having the pitch. Two days later you
- 45:23Speaker 6: have the pitch in the game like that had never
- 45:26Speaker 6: been possible before. You were just guessing before. Now we
- 45:29Speaker 6: know whether or not something could be good or not quickly,
- 45:34Speaker 6: and then it comes down to can you throw it
- 45:35Speaker 6: over the play or can you throw it where you
- 45:37Speaker 6: want to regularly. That's what it comes down to. Pitching
- 45:40Speaker 6: is at that point, and arguably it's been at that
- 45:42Speaker 6: point for a couple of years now, to where a
- 45:44Speaker 6: pitcher is gonna get can make two quick changes and
- 45:46Speaker 6: be really really good, really really fast. We're seeing all
- 45:49Speaker 6: over the place, especially guys going from starting to relieving,
- 45:51Speaker 6: and they're like, oh, I threw a new slider and
- 45:53Speaker 6: now it's the best pitch in the league. Like that
- 45:56Speaker 6: stuff happens. Hitting doesn't have that.
- 46:00Speaker 1: Quite yet.
- 46:11Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. Let's slap some hands. We still
- 46:15Speaker 2: do that figuratively literally. Oh all right, snaps like like
- 46:23Speaker 2: the Bendon snap snaps, snaps and claps.
- 46:27Speaker 1: I don't know, but we'll go right to the crats
- 46:30Speaker 1: hats because all right, it's been breaking a lot of
- 46:33Speaker 1: big League ones out. This is the uh copa diversity own.
- 46:38Speaker 1: It's the diverse diverse. I can't even say the word anyway,
- 46:43Speaker 1: it's the mamma wanas and if you have ever been
- 46:46Speaker 1: to the Dominican you know what mama wana is. So
- 46:48Speaker 1: this is the Mamauana's hat that they that the Iron
- 46:52Speaker 1: Pigs wore.
- 46:54Speaker 2: Don't forget to catch fair territory. I'm back, slightly blurried,
- 46:57Speaker 2: but here to tell you, Ken Rosenthal, Watricia Whittaker, they
- 47:00Speaker 2: are going to get into baseball's biggest storylines. They're gonna
- 47:03Speaker 2: get into the blue Today's come back win last night,
- 47:05Speaker 2: Chris Young losing his patients with the Rangers offense, and
- 47:08Speaker 2: of course Ken's dude and dork of the week.
- 47:11Speaker 4: All right, well, I'm gonna be in Baltimore this weekend, Britz.
- 47:13Speaker 4: I'll look forward to seeing you Royals Orioles with Fox.
- 47:17Speaker 4: I'll wave to your royals for you, Cratzy. I'll say
- 47:20Speaker 4: hi to Salvi and those boys for you. And we
- 47:23Speaker 4: look forward to Scott joining us back tomorrow on foul Territory.
- 47:27Speaker 4: Todd'll be here right with you, Cratsey. Well, one eyed
- 47:29Speaker 4: Scott and one eyed Scott.
- 47:33Speaker 1: Yeah. So good luck to you guys. Everyone, have a
- 47:35Speaker 1: great weekend.
- 47:36Speaker 4: I won't see you, but I'll see you guys in
- 47:37Speaker 4: Baltimore and Kratz Mamajana.
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