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The Bolt Report | 27 November · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Is the good report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight Barnaby Joyce, he'll tell us why he today quit
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  Speaker 2: the Nationals and why one nation is better well so
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  Speaker 2: tonight in afghanbra refugee is accused of shooting two National
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  Speaker 2: guardsmen in Washington. And a bizarre story how Queensland police
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  Speaker 2: liaison officers protected a top Chinese official from a loan
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  Speaker 2: protest and his small sign. I'll talk to that protest there,
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  Speaker 2: will show us his sign and we'll find out what
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  Speaker 2: was so bad about it and who moved him? What
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  Speaker 2: did happen to free speech in this country? But first,
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, the formula Deputy Prime Minister, today quit the
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  Speaker 2: Nationals after thirty years. He hasn't yet confirmed and now
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  Speaker 2: joined Paul In Hanson's One Nation Party, but I'd put
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  Speaker 2: some money on it now the rubbish I'm hearing about
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  Speaker 2: what is done and shouldn't have. People clearly are panicking
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  Speaker 2: some I'll talk to bunnyby Joyce in a second. But
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  Speaker 2: here he is announcing his move in Parliament today.
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  Speaker 3: In the past I've been asked to leave twice by
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  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton, and I suppose the last change. When they
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  Speaker 3: talk about generational change, it's it's pretty clear what people want.
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  Speaker 3: One of the biggest things they made debby Speaker is
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  Speaker 3: that after five weeks I announced this about five weeks ago,
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  Speaker 3: Apart from a ninety second phone conversation with the leader,
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  Speaker 3: I've had no communication with either the leader of the
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  Speaker 3: National Party or the deputy Leader of the National Party
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  Speaker 3: to try and resolve this, and that's disappointing. So after
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  Speaker 3: thirty years with the National Party, I am resigning from
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  Speaker 3: the party that really leads me with the heavy heart,
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  Speaker 3: and I apologize for all all the hurt that that
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  Speaker 3: will cause other people. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: And then he listed all the things he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: fight for that he thought were more important than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's not hard to work out why Joyce is
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  Speaker 2: giving up in the Nationals. Like you said, the Nationals
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  Speaker 2: have given up on him. His political career is essentially
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  Speaker 2: over with the Nationals he once led. So given that,
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  Speaker 2: I thought this line for National Senator Bridget McKenzie today
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  Speaker 2: was a bit unfair and self serving, It's a line
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  Speaker 2: I've actually heard from many Coalition politicians and even journalists.
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  Speaker 4: Barnaby didn't get into politics to be part of a
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  Speaker 4: protest party. He has done some significant things in his
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  Speaker 4: twenty years. He's built highways, he's kicked pistol and Boo out,
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  Speaker 4: He's reformed by security laws. He you know, made changes
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  Speaker 4: to the Competition Act to actually protects some more business.
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  Speaker 4: So he's actually done serious things and agacy is significant
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  Speaker 4: that would be trashed if he goes to One Nation.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to ask how much the National Party truly
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  Speaker 2: cares about Mane of Joyce's reputation when some of their
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  Speaker 2: MPs have been trashing him for quite a while now
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  Speaker 2: as a loose cannon an embarrassment has been banned him
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  Speaker 2: even from speaking outside his electorate during the last election.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, why wouldn't Joyce become a one Nation senator
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  Speaker 2: instead the next election. He'd prolong his career for a start,
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  Speaker 2: it increases influence. One Nation would then have more senators
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  Speaker 2: than the Nationals at least five with Joyce there possibly
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  Speaker 2: more six or seven, and it could be a real
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  Speaker 2: force in the next Senate. Certainly it'd be bigger than
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  Speaker 2: the Nationals there. I mean four Nationals for how many
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  Speaker 2: one Nation Joyce could even have eventually lead One Nation.
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  Speaker 2: Paul and Hansen is now seventy one years old, and
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  Speaker 2: will retire one distant day. Now the Nationals are just
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  Speaker 2: saying we don't want Barnaby Joyce, but we don't want
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  Speaker 2: one nation to have him either, I mean really, and
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  Speaker 2: you can see why they are freaking. I mean, one
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  Speaker 2: nation's already soaring in the polls fifteen percent supports our
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  Speaker 2: news poll another pole eighteen percent, much more than the Nationals.
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  Speaker 2: I don't expect the level to stay up there, but
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  Speaker 2: they're a threat, and joining it would if Joyce did,
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  Speaker 2: that would give one nation even more way to give
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  Speaker 2: it more bite and more experience, more publicity, and it
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  Speaker 2: would seem the Coldition was a sinking ship if Joyce
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  Speaker 2: was then jumping it. Now you might wonder why Joyce
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  Speaker 2: today didn't go the whole hog and also say he
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  Speaker 2: was joining one nation when hands in this week even
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  Speaker 2: cooked him a wagon new steak, although admittedly in a
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  Speaker 2: sandwich toaster. Now, maybe it's just giving the Nationals m
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  Speaker 2: or chance to prove it really loves him, maybe even
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  Speaker 2: just quit politics completely unlikely to me, though it seems
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  Speaker 2: to perhaps Hanson herself forced this delay by dressing up
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  Speaker 2: in a burker in the Senate this week, which she
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  Speaker 2: judges electrified her base, but which actually might be the
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  Speaker 2: kind of out there stunt that isn't Joyce's style, not
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  Speaker 2: when he wants to associate himself with too much. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and if Joyce had then said Johnny, one Nation stood
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  Speaker 2: up with Hans and blah blah blah, it would all
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  Speaker 2: have been about the burkery, you know where the questions
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  Speaker 2: would have been, and it wouldn't have been the issues
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  Speaker 2: that Joyce once the push is one Nation politician. He
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  Speaker 2: mentioned most of them in his explanation to the Parliament today.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's the power prices, it's the debt, it's
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  Speaker 2: the trashing of our national symbols. It's certainly the global
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  Speaker 2: warming scare and immigration. So wait and see. I do
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  Speaker 2: think Joyce's other shoe will drop and One Nation will
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  Speaker 2: then live on for another generation to come. No wonder
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  Speaker 2: the Nationals are nervous. I should add a ps because
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  Speaker 2: former Liberal pro Minister Malcolm turbules us today about Joyce
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  Speaker 2: quitting the Nationals. Now Turnbull is the most bitter ex
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  Speaker 2: prime minister I've ever known, the classic miserable ghost. And
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  Speaker 2: didn't Turnbull today love the chance to boot the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: who dump them as prime Minister in fact boot the
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  Speaker 2: whole coalition. Our fact check is rant at the end
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  Speaker 2: of this have listened. It is disappointing, Yeah, sure it is.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think there's a major problem on what used
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  Speaker 5: to because the right of politics. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 5: they've lost their way the fundamental problem. It had to
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  Speaker 5: diagnose the fundamental problem. What's going on with it in
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  Speaker 5: the coalition at the moment. And this has been this
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  Speaker 5: was this is always an issue. It was an issue
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  Speaker 5: in my time, but it's just got worse and worse
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  Speaker 5: and worse. It's there is a there a group of
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  Speaker 5: people there by now I think essentially majority who think
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  Speaker 5: the object of politics is to win the approval of
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  Speaker 5: a relatively narrow part of the what you might call
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  Speaker 5: the right wing media. You know the sky and sky
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  Speaker 5: up the dark and you know fellow travelers and social
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  Speaker 5: media and radio, and they're so they're running on cultural issues,
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  Speaker 5: on reality denial.
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  Speaker 2: You know that it's it's like, it's really sad.
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  Speaker 5: And they're so and that's and they're you know, they're
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  Speaker 5: just straight. You can see you can see from the
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  Speaker 5: electoral results and you can see from the polling it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't work right.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry to subject you to so much of Turnbull. But really, seriously,
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  Speaker 2: the evil Sky News, just how many of it would have?
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  Speaker 2: Five or six of us, seven of us that we
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  Speaker 2: have got this stranglehold on the liberals, just this happy
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  Speaker 2: bunch of culture warriors here, we've got this mind control
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  Speaker 2: over them. Now, I'd say instead that Sky News stands
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  Speaker 2: out simply because we bring true to liberals and conservatives.
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  Speaker 2: And that is for the simple reason that most of
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the media is so clearly of the left.
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  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't liberals and conservatives be in tune with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of what you hear on Sky, particularly Sky after Dark. Now, Second,
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  Speaker 2: the liberals actually lost their way when they listen instead
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  Speaker 2: too the ABC like when the very left wing Malcolm
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  Speaker 2: Turnbull drag them to the left to ABC Land demand
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  Speaker 2: that they follow the great global warming scare. And what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Turnbull first lost sixteen seats in an election, then lost
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  Speaker 2: five by elections in a row, lost thirty nine news
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  Speaker 2: polls in a row, and finally lost this leadership too.
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  Speaker 2: The same with the last election. The liberals promised that
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  Speaker 2: zero higher taxes than labor and which you watching defense policy.
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  Speaker 2: I guaranteed none of them are policies that Sky News
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  Speaker 2: hosts called for, not one, and finally Turnbull calls the
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  Speaker 2: fight against that zero policy. Oh, it's just a culture war.
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  Speaker 2: A culture war, I mean, how idiotic. It's an economics war.
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  Speaker 2: It's a war to save our economy, our jobs, our
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  Speaker 2: power bills, a heavy industry, our future, and to stop
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  Speaker 2: the lunacy of spending trillions of dollars on schemes that
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  Speaker 2: will make virtually no difference to our climate, a difference
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  Speaker 2: so infantismally small. I've never heard any activists even dare
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  Speaker 2: try to work it out. So thank god that Australians
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  Speaker 2: have one news channel that does treat that war with
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  Speaker 2: the deadly seriousness that more and more Australians expect. But
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  Speaker 2: joining me is Barnaby Joyce. I spoke to a short
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  Speaker 2: while ago. Barnaby Joyce. Thank you so much for joining
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  Speaker 2: us there at Muscat Airport. We just heard why you
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  Speaker 2: quit the National Party. I just played your speech. What
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  Speaker 2: we didn't hear today is why you haven't then immediately
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  Speaker 2: joined One Nation. I'm told that is the eventual plan.
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  Speaker 2: Why not do it today?
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  Speaker 3: No? Well, I hadn't actually finalized that decision, Andrew, I'm
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  Speaker 3: strongly considering it a shadow of a doubt, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: very considering, very strongly obviously the Senate, because I was
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  Speaker 3: told the people of New England for some time that
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  Speaker 3: won't be standing for New England again, but I hadn't
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  Speaker 3: finalized it. And if if I had finalized and that
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  Speaker 3: I would announce it. But it's not finalized, and you
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  Speaker 3: just want to take a bit of time to cool
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  Speaker 3: down and go back to the country, and once you
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  Speaker 3: get back on the place, your head clears and you
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  Speaker 3: see things in a clearer form and a better form.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I would like to do.
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  Speaker 2: What does one nation offer you that the Nationals do not.
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 3: I think that the big issue is that my relationship
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  Speaker 3: with the leadership of the Nationals in the House, the
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  Speaker 3: House representatives had irreparably broken down, as they say about
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  Speaker 3: some marriages, and it was becoming sort of, you know, dysfunctional,
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  Speaker 3: and I was believing that I was turning into a
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  Speaker 3: bit more of a bitter person that I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to be. And the best way if you're in a
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  Speaker 3: dysfunctional relationship and you can't resolve the issues is to
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  Speaker 3: get out of the relationship. And so that is really
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  Speaker 3: the primary driver. As I've said, there's no myth about this.
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  Speaker 3: We know obviously that the one generational change when I
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  Speaker 3: at the and the election which would refer to me,
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  Speaker 3: and that's really code for go where they see to
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  Speaker 3: you in what I always call the ejection seat is
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  Speaker 3: a clear sign not only to everybody who watches it,
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  Speaker 3: that the next step is out the door which is
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  Speaker 3: right behind you. I've even, as I said, I've had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of discussions with the former leader of the
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  Speaker 3: Coalition Peter Dutten, for no doubt was in would not
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  Speaker 3: have been working solo on it, where he specifically suspe
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  Speaker 3: specifically I always struggle with that asked me to leave
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  Speaker 3: on behalf of David. He said, you know that I
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  Speaker 3: was making David's life to uncomfortable and you just get
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: to a point, Andrew, where you go, Okay, that's all
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  Speaker 3: fair enough, and they're an elected leader and the right
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  Speaker 3: to say that and you should respect it in some form,
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  Speaker 3: and so I went.
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  Speaker 2: Dave little proud being the National's leader, Peter's this afternoon
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  Speaker 2: is reported as saying he did that for you out
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  Speaker 2: of concern for your own welfare. Is that how you
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  Speaker 2: heard it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, and that look maybe maybe a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: but he said I'd cause David trouble. I remember that
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  Speaker 3: I actually wrote all the notes down Diaris it immediately,
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  Speaker 3: but it's but you know, that's in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: He's probably correct and to ask to go and obviously
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  Speaker 3: I have so in a funny way, I've concurred with
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  Speaker 3: what he asked.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting too that if you do go to one Nation,
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  Speaker 2: as I firmly expect you will, let's say, well they've
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  Speaker 2: got four said that seats, now that have five. I
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  Speaker 2: mean you'd be a monty to win if you stood
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  Speaker 2: for one Nation, as opposed to as an independent who
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  Speaker 2: must certainly win. In New South Wales, maybe add one
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  Speaker 2: more seed. I don't know, Tasmania with Pauling Hanson's daughter,
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  Speaker 2: that's six seats. The Nationals are stuck on four. You'd
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  Speaker 2: actually have a lot more clout, would you, than just
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  Speaker 2: making up the numbers and doing voting as the Nationals
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  Speaker 2: tell you to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's fair, col. I think the numbers are
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  Speaker 3: going to be much tighter in the Senate. I would
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: love the Coalition to win the next election, but I
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: just starting from so far back it's a herculean task
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  Speaker 3: which I don't think is going to happen. Therefore, being
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  Speaker 3: in the ejection seat near the exit door in the
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  Speaker 3: back row of the coalition and opposition is not a
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  Speaker 3: very relevant experience in your life. Maybe at the start,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: but not at the end of her political career. So
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  Speaker 3: I would feel a lot more satisfied and fulfilled in
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  Speaker 3: a Senate I've been speaking very selfishly. There is in
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  Speaker 3: a Senate role where you have the capacity in the
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  Speaker 3: committee system and the tightness and numbers to bring about
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: changes for regional people. I'd love to have a moratorium
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  Speaker 3: on any cis that's involved with the inter minute power
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  Speaker 3: industry to stop the Swingle factory is being built and
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: the transmission line has been rolled out, and the wind
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  Speaker 3: how it's going up, and the pensions has been made poor.
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  Speaker 3: Now I've got no hope of doing that where I am,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: but in the Senate it's it used. Opportunities to at
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: least go down that path start to arrive.
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  Speaker 2: Paul Enhances burker stunt dressing as a burker in the
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  Speaker 2: Senate and then getting thrown out for a week. Has
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  Speaker 2: that made you think that one nation isn't serious enough
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  Speaker 2: for you as or trying to put some distance here.
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  Speaker 2: Is that why you haven't totally signed up right now
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  Speaker 2: today with one nation.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I leave paul In to talk about that. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's not, it's not. I think I'd be speaking secondhand
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  Speaker 3: on that one. There's some really big issues out there
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  Speaker 3: that I think need to be addressed in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Power You've got communists China breathing down our neck with
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's bizarre. People had to turn off their
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  Speaker 3: phones the other day when they came into a building.
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  Speaker 3: And we've got other issues such as cost of living,
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  Speaker 3: poorer people becoming poorer, being put out of their houses
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  Speaker 3: because they can't afford their power prices, and that I
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  Speaker 3: give those examples, Andrew, because that's where my focus is
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  Speaker 3: going to be. I think that is, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: absolutely respect other people's right to express themselves, but for
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  Speaker 3: me to express the reason is for them, that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not that, That's not my stick.
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen's obviously now her party. If you move to
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  Speaker 2: the party will survive her retiring. When she does eventually retire,
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  Speaker 2: it will move on to another generation. So that's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: But beyond that, do you think you going to one
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  Speaker 2: nation should scare the nationals because right now the abuse
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  Speaker 2: you're getting suggests they're very scared.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, well, I understand, and I apologize, I really do
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  Speaker 3: for any hurt I've created. I understand it completely with
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  Speaker 3: some very very dear friends who I hope after this
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  Speaker 3: remain dear friends. And so I'm not going to comment
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  Speaker 3: on that. I would say that the political system itself,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew has dramatically changed. There's nothing we can do to
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  Speaker 3: change it back. And if you just look at the
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  Speaker 3: polling now, people go, you know, the polling's become more fragmented,
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  Speaker 3: and the role of was there in nineteen seventy five
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  Speaker 3: of the two major parties is vastly different. So it's
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  Speaker 3: said today at a press conference. In nineteen seventy five,
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  Speaker 3: I bring that up because of the sacking of GoF Whitlam,
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  Speaker 3: we had of one hundred and twenty seven Lower House
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  Speaker 3: representative seats, one hundred and two were one on first
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  Speaker 3: preferences and most very very solid. We we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: in the mid sixties or the young sixties. Today, in
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  Speaker 3: the last election of one hundred and fifty seats, only
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  Speaker 3: eleven were one on first preferences. So what's happening were
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  Speaker 3: you're getting a sort of a diversity in a spreading
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: of the vote, And so I think that all parties
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: have to contend with that and have to realize that.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't get when you look at it again,
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  Speaker 3: as another example, the Labor Party with just shire thirty
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  Speaker 3: five percent of the primary vote got sixty two percent
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  Speaker 3: of the seats and the Coalition with thirty two percent
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  Speaker 3: of the vote got twenty nine percent of the seats.
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  Speaker 3: So that's why I say you either rage against it
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  Speaker 3: and get ready by it, or you roll with it
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  Speaker 3: and work out how you deal with it. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that you're going to have to deal with preference flows.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to have to deal with a range of
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  Speaker 3: parties as part of the political scheme if you want
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  Speaker 3: to create a government. Otherwise you'll be pure in opposition
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  Speaker 3: and there for a very long while.
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  Speaker 2: As I showed earlier, Malcolm Turnbull was today asked about you,
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  Speaker 2: was asked about the Liberals declined, the Coalition decline generally.
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  Speaker 2: He said, that's what comes from going against the global
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  Speaker 2: warming movement and listening, oh my god, to sky News.
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  Speaker 2: This is an analysis correct.
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  Speaker 3: Malcolm. I remember Malcolm saying something about, oh, you should
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  Speaker 3: never becomes a bitter ghost or something like that or so,
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  Speaker 3: and I've never met a bitter ghost in my life.
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  Speaker 3: Every time Malcolm has an opportunity to get to a microphone,
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  Speaker 3: it's just this sort of littening a bile and you know,
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  Speaker 3: and sort of trying to get a form of rewriting
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  Speaker 3: of history. You know, it belittles him. He's a very smart, erudite,
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  Speaker 3: charming person when he wants to be, but he's just
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: you know, he's doing product damage to himself. And he's
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  Speaker 3: actually a very good example of where I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to be. And it's I just wish Malcolm, look, look,
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  Speaker 3: take more, pay more attention to the better angels that
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  Speaker 3: I know he has unless of this sort of retrospective vitriol.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty damning when you say he can be charming
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  Speaker 2: when he wants to be, because I can't see I've
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  Speaker 2: seen I've seen that charm very often, So maybe he
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to be Bannaby Barnaby Joyce. Thank you so
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: much for your time, and we shall see what your
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: future movements will be.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you, You're welcome.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, after the break protecting communist I'll
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: talk to the loan protests that police liaison didn't want
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: anywhere near a top Chinese official. It seems that getting
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: closer to communist China means Australians must give up some
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: of their freedoms like free speech. On Tuesday, Prime Minister
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Anthony Alberanzi refused to say what he discussed in his
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: meeting in camera with Charle Leiji, the third most senior
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: leader of the Chinese dictatorship. Oh no, you know, we
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: don't do that kind of thing. We don't reveal conversations
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: at this level of contact, he said, although China yesterday
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: showed this was actually done. It released the readout. Saint
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Jero told Albanezi that Taiwan and the South China Sea,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: both of which China is trying to take over, were
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Chinese territories and core interests, and in his description of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the meeting he didn't note any objection and from alban EASi,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: it said Albanesi just said the Chinese Australian relations which
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: were sound. Never mind that China has been threatening our
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: aircraft or threatening war over Taiwan, and never mind that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: politicians in our parliament had to switch off phones to
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: during Charles's visit this week for fear of Chinese Spain.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: But it gets worse as Chinese leader. He also stopped
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: off in Brisbane at a Koala sanctuary where pro China
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: activists were waiving the Communist Party's flags to welcome him,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: but democracy campaigner Drew Pavlou has been a longtime critic
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: of communists China's oppression. He was actually pushed away by
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Queensland police and liaison officers when he tried to hold
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: up his own sign. He was told to stand where
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: his sign couldn't be seen, just behind that line that.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't and I think still, yeah, event just a bit hard, okay,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: please show me what I Okay?
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  Speaker 2: The result it was truly fascical. Hope that mister.
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  Speaker 7: W You know, I know they can they can hear you, Okay,
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: able to do?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Why don't you guys move them?
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: They're kind of in my mind what you said, I'm a.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That viewers is your Australia Today Drew Pevlu joined me.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Drew Pevlu, thank you so much for your time. Why
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: were you at that protest?
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: Thank you for having me? Andrew the number three Chinese
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: Commonist Party official visited Australia and I thought somebody had
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: to do a small protest. And this man was the
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: head of China's anti corruption police under Jijiping. He basically
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: led all of Jijiping's purges. So I thought I would
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: bring a poster encouraging him to defect while he still
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: could Gold Coast luxury condos for sale, because, as he
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: would know, having been in charge of the propaganda, having
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: been in charge of the anti corruption bureau, at one point,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: you're on top, the next you're you're defenestrated, You're you're
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: taken down. I wanted to try help him.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what happened in Stalin's Russia and Mao
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: stuns China, and I think it's exactly the same year.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Those purges. Anti corruption might be about corruption, but I
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: think too often it's just about power. Now, we just
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: saw the sign. I look even close up to the camera,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: it was hard to read. Why. Why did you think
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the Queenslam Police seems so keen for you to take
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: it to where Jo LIGI couldn't even see it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: Yes, so this is the incredible thing about it. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: didn't realize this, but there's a phenomenon called Chinese police
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: liaison officers. I didn't even realize that these were a thing. Essentially,
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: they're members of the community who can speak Chinese that
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: are sort of deputized by the Queensland Police for the
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: purposes of upholding multiculturalism. And they're not actually police officers.
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: I thought that they were police officers, but they're not
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: actually police officers. And they had as their top task
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: that day trying to jostle me out of the way
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: so that Zhou Liiji would not see my sign, which
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: is just extraordinary. I don't understand it. I mean, this
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: is Australia, this is Brisbane. I thought I'd be able
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: to exercise my right to speak freely as an Australian citizen.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: And strangely enough, these police liaison officers are trying to
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: jostle me out of the way to protect the honor
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: of a visiting Communists functionary. And it's just bizarre.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: That is truly bizarre. What reason do they actually give
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: you for moving you way out of sight?
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: Well, they said that, they said that the organizers had
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: already booked the space. I should have asked them who
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: organized that. We both know that it was probably the consulate.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: I mean there were literally five or six buses parked.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: They bust in supporters and they told me that the
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: sign was potentially disrespectful, disrespectful to Zaliji, which again is
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: extraordinary because this is, you know, a fearsome communist bureaucrat, the.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Number three in China.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: I think, you know, he's been involved in purgerse, he's
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: been involved in life and death battles within the Chinese
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: Commonist Party. I think he can probably survive seeing a
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: small paper sign in Brisbane, Australia. But they had to
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: protect his honor, it seems, and it's just extraordinary.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I thought this was Australia.
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: I thought I had freedom in this in my own
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: country to speak.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: It is weird, Drew. So let me get this right,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: they said, Did they say that you had to show
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: respect to the third top guy in a communist dictatorship
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: that has been threatening Australia.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: Well, they brought the Chinese police liaison officer to come
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: and inspect my sign to ensure that it would be okay. Again,
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: this is not a real police officer. It's somebody who's
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: just sort of deputized by the Queens and Police for
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: the purpose of upholding multicultural harmony, and she said the
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: sign may be interpreted as disrespectful. And again, I just
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: didn't realize it was a function of the Queensland Police
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: Service to ensure that the third top guy in the
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: Chinese Communist Party doesn't face disrespect in Australia on a visit.
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: I just didn't think that was a remit of the
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: queens and Police ensuring that communist visiting officials are given
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: due respect.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Well, you can see where you're at fault here, Drew.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: You've got a sign that's meant to give disrespect and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the liaison officer wasn't sure.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: That it did.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I think next time you need to lift your game
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: and really make it disrespectful so that there's no confusion.
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: Look, I would be in real trouble then, Andrew, because
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: they actually warned me that I could be arrested for
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: hate speech. They actually warned me prior to the arrival
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: of the Motoricate. They said, if you engage in hate speech,
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: we will arrest you. And again, it's just amazing that
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: my speech is pleased in Australia to protect the protect
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: the feelings of a fearsome communist bureaucrat, a guy who's
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: been involved in how many purgs. This guy has been
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: involved in so many life and death struggles within the
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: fearsome Chinese Communist Party, but we have to protect his feelings,
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: of course. From Drew Pavlou, twenty six year old, you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: suburban Brisbane who does YouTube videos.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Drew Pavlou, I've long admired your work, as you know
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: auge viewers to have going to look at your X
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: feed and all that. You've been a struggler for democracy
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: and freedom and I appreciate that. But what an extraordinary story.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I've got to tell you. You're growing up in Australia that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: is so different to the one that I grew up in,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and I don't think the change is for the better.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for fighting against it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: Thank you, Andrew. It feels like we're under occupation. That's
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: how it feels.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: After the break, an illegal Afghan immigrant shoots two National
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: guardsmen in Washington and Donald Trump promises hell to pay
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: today a moment of crisis in the United States. Explosive
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: an Afghan gunman to National guardsmen in Washington, d C.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Just a couple of blocks from the White House. Both
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: men are now fighting for their lives. The gunman has
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: also been shot and arrested. His identity will dramatically raise
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: tensions in America that sometimes seems at war with itself.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump today went on the attack.
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: This heinous assault was an active evil, and active hatred
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: and an active terror. It was a crime against our
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: entire nation. As President of the United States, I am
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: determined to ensure that the animal who perpetrated this atrocity
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: pays the steepest possible price. I can report tonight that,
• 30:43
  Speaker 9: based on the best available information, the Department of Homeland
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: Security is confident that the suspect and custody is a
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: foreigner who entered our country from Afghanistan, a hellhole on Earth.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: He was flown in by the Biden administration in September
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: twenty one on those infamous flights that everybody was talking about.
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: Nobody knew who was coming in, Nobody knew anything about it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: His status was extended under legislation signed by President Biden,
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: a disastrous president, the worst in the history of our country.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: This attack underscores the single greatest national security threat facing
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: our nation. The last administration led in twenty million unknown
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: and unvetted foreigners from all over the world, from places
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: that you don't want to even know about. No country
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: can tolerate such a risk to our very survival.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: So you can see how easily this would get very ugly. Now,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the gunman's motive, this Afghan refugee, not in legal immigrants.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: The refugee is still unknown, So I'm not going to speculate.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Potentions in the United States ratchet at dangerous levels and
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: too often incided by the left. Despite what you just
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: heard from Trump himself, well, he actually saw Trump narrowly
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: escape being shot twice during the election campaign after Democrats
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: warned he'd be a dictator, and then two months ago
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: had gunman shot dead Christian evangelist Charlie Kirk, a prominent
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: supporter of Donald Trump. And now this, and this has
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: got some very potent background. Trump in August sent this
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: National Guard that these two soldiers are from state based
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: military to Washington to tackle violent crime there. Murders have
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: since more than halved, but Democrat politicians and activists attacked
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Trump as a kind of fascist and attacked the National
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Guard as a kind of unlawful occupying force. Six Democrat
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and lawmakers even made this video treating the National Guard
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: as almost an enemy. Unlawful administration is pitting our uniform military.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: And intelligence community professionals.
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: Against American citizens like us.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: You all swore an oath to this constitution. Right now,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: the threats to our constitution aren't just coming from a miroad,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: but from right here at home.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Trump called that video seditious and punishable by death under
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the law. Democrats also attacked Trump's immigration officials, the ICE
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: officials who are arresting illegal immigrants. One Democrat politician literally
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: attacked them physically allegedly, and others described this force too,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: these agents as a hostile force, a menace.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: It is putting our people in danger.
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: This is an attack on neighborhoods, on lawful residents, on
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: US citizen.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So given all that ritory, does anyone think that this
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: shooting of the two National guardsmen in Washington, Oh, what
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a big surprise, What a big surprise? And War Secretary
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: repeat Hegseth then made clear that force will be met
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: with more force.
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: That will only stiffen our resolve. We will never back down.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: We will secure our capital. And that's why President Trump
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: has asked me, and I will ask the Secretary of
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: the Army to the National Guard to add five hundred
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: additional troops National guardsmen to Washington DC.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I was joined earlier by a regular Thursday commentator every Fortnight,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: General Jack Keane. General Keen was Vice Chief of Staff
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: for the United States Army and a four star general.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: He is now chairman of the Institute for the Study
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: of War. General Keen, great to see you again. I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: wanted to talk to you about the latest twist to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the so called peace steal for Ukraine. But before that,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: you have served most of your adult life in uniform.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: To now see two national gunsmen shot in the streets
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: of their own capital city, how does that affect you?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something really tragic. I live.
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: In the shadows of Washington, d C, just across the
• 35:16
  Speaker 11: public buildings, so I'm in the city regularly every week,
• 35:21
  Speaker 11: and that they've been here since all this They're not
• 35:24
  Speaker 11: fighting crime like policemen do, but they're walking the streets
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: in four person patrols, men and women in uniform and
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: under armed, and what they're doing is preventing club And
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: it's noticeable to all of the DC residents, particularly those
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: who live in the city day in and day out
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: and go to work there at all. The crime is down,
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: not just a small percenta it's an overwhelming pacenter that
• 35:53
  Speaker 11: they have a major influence on. So everybody really applause them.
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: And it's hard to the walk down the street without
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: citizens but telling them how much they appreciate their being
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: in this. And yes, they were targeted for what I
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: think they represent on these people who hate the police,
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: and I guess it's an extension of the police that
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: have to imagine what's going on in somebody's mind, who
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: had looked the pistol and try to kill two guards
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: and they they come allful close there from what we understand,
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: the incredital condition, and hopefully they weren't able to make it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: But I'll tell you what, the fellow troops are out
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: there taking the same steps, walk in the same streets
• 36:36
  Speaker 11: on their arms, and you know, do it tonight, and
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: they'll do it tomorrow, and they'll do it improved. The
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: mission is over. I just more of our mayors, who
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: have epic time in their cities would walk in the
• 36:49
  Speaker 11: National Guard. Unfortunately they have not. Given Washington, d C.
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: Is a federal city and supervised by the federal government
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: and resource fire federal government. That is why the National
• 37:02
  Speaker 11: Guard was authorized. The president has a fuller party for
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: a deployer for that, he cannot deploy it for other
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: cities in states I lost the governor as for their assistants,
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: or there's some emergency that's beyond their capability.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Of handle, then the president to get.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: Involved, applaud these guardsmen to what they've done and what
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: they're going up now.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I reported last night that a transcript has been leaked
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: showing real estate billionaires Steve Whitkoff, who Trump Donald Trump
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: asked to negotiate a piece deal between Russia and Ukraine,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: actually coached Russian President Vladimir Putin, telling a top Putin
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: aid how the Russian president could get Trump on his side,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: which I've said Putin had to call Trump before Trump
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: met Ukraine's president of the White House, that was last month.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: He should Putin should flatter Trump, he should praise his
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: peace steel for guys, or he should offer his own
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: twenty point piece plan, and all of this then happened.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: There are now calls for even from even some Republican politicians,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: for Whitkoff to resign as a Pittin stooge and Patsy
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: should he.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I've got furger de inflevention.
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: But I can deal with the fact, and the facts
• 38:22
  Speaker 11: are that the first piece plan was over lonely favoring
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: Russia at the expense of Ukraine, and that that plan
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: had getten largely revised. I will say I had some discussions,
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: multiple discussions with the President of the United States on
• 38:41
  Speaker 11: some of the issues. On both conversations ran confidential because
• 38:47
  Speaker 11: whenever I have a conversation with the President immediately because
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: his conversation, not mine, And if he wants to release
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: that information is up to him. But I picked her
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: on a much better path. Now, Secretary of Rubia wanted
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: Geneva met with the Ukrainians, met with the Europeans there
• 39:05
  Speaker 11: and that whole plan that can completely revised. It's backed
• 39:10
  Speaker 11: into some semblance of balance. The Ukrainians agreed with all
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: of eighteen of twenty issue of nineteen.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: To twenty one in fee. I forget that number.
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: But there's this two issues that are made likely that
• 39:23
  Speaker 11: tough ischiees my one of them will be territory for cure.
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: But here's the thing that we've got to keep our
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: eye on. So your audience understanding if there is a DEA,
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: and I think that there is a more probability that
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: the Russians will accept any deal because the audients understand
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: who is playing for time, and he thinks it's on
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: the side. He wants to wear down Kevin and Trump
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: and his administration wear down to Europeans in supporting Ukraine,
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: and also break the wild of the Ukrainian people by
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: killing and learning them. And he's trying to do that
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: just about every night. He put profession on Inski, so
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: that is goodly is objected, and that's why he would
• 40:04
  Speaker 11: rather be a law than be at peace and cease fire,
• 40:08
  Speaker 11: because he knows the pressure he's off everybody. So it's
• 40:11
  Speaker 11: likely he'll say no to the deal, but he remains
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: to be seen. I less say suggesting we shouldn't try,
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: and I give President Trump credit to try it. So
• 40:22
  Speaker 11: we've got a couple of issues remain. But the thing
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: that you'll get President he's on sky is what assigned
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: is and the two issues that he's concerned about it resolved.
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: He has to have security guarantees that Russia's not going
• 40:36
  Speaker 11: to attack together and have the deterrence against them, so
• 40:39
  Speaker 11: that means putting together a force that has an air
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: component here in other words, fighters outside of Ukraine that
• 40:47
  Speaker 11: can respond to any incident that the Russians are doing.
• 40:50
  Speaker 11: A ground force mostly Europeans, but also put some Americans
• 40:55
  Speaker 11: on the ground to help train the Ukrains and bring
• 40:58
  Speaker 11: them up much higher level of capability that they have now,
• 41:02
  Speaker 11: a c component because to the south there's the Black Sea,
• 41:06
  Speaker 11: the cos Oh when we need a de terrence built there.
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: So an air, ground and maritime component should be commanded
• 41:15
  Speaker 11: by the United States, a multinancial headquarters to be sure
• 41:20
  Speaker 11: by command about the United States, because we have the
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: experience of doing they sell exceeds the Europeans. That is
• 41:26
  Speaker 11: referred to an a lexicon in our discussions here as
• 41:30
  Speaker 11: a security guarantee. But those are some of the specifics
• 41:34
  Speaker 11: that are absolutely necessary. Because a piece of pagot signature
• 41:39
  Speaker 11: on it doesn't mean a lot, and we've seen that
• 41:42
  Speaker 11: every violation since twenty fourteen in the Glade and also
• 41:47
  Speaker 11: in Syria. The only thing that matters to him, when
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: we know it, until we've discussed is strength, and if
• 41:53
  Speaker 11: we're going to stop him from the invasion, if he
• 41:56
  Speaker 11: signs a piece of paper We're going to have to
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: have a force that's ready to do it, the air
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: power that would be necessary to move quickly and strike
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: any unit that tries.
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  Speaker 1: To go back in New York top. That's where we
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: got to be, not just a sign back.
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  Speaker 11: In them, which will take a dangage out, but people
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  Speaker 11: on the ground and in the air and at sea
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  Speaker 11: who are willing to be tilt.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and that force has to be in Ukraine. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine's got to trust that some American president will actually
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  Speaker 2: send a force from who knows where to attack Russia,
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  Speaker 2: which that well, you see Donald Trump how reluctant he
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  Speaker 2: is even to give Ukraine some of the weapons it
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: wants a lett alone a US troops. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think this is not going to be a done deal
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  Speaker 2: for a long time. General Keane, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for your time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, great talking to Henry. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: After the break. What happens when a labor government runs
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  Speaker 2: out of your money. A warning from Britain. Anytime you
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: think the big spinning alban easy labor government is bad,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: look at Britain's big spending labor government. It's Chancelly yesterday
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  Speaker 2: announced another fifty billion dollars of extra taxes.
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  Speaker 6: If you're asking does this have a cost for working people?
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  Speaker 3: I acknowledge it does. I said that in the budget
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  Speaker 3: last year.
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  Speaker 2: Considered leader Kemmi Bednock tore her apart.
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  Speaker 6: Last year she put up taxes by forty billion pounds,
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  Speaker 6: the biggest tax rate in British history. She promised that
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: she wouldn't be back for more if she swore it
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  Speaker 6: was a one off. She told everyone that from now
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: on it would be stability and she would pay for
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  Speaker 6: everything with growth. Today she has broken every single one.
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  Speaker 6: If she had any decency she would resign.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: There is a parallel here El Albanize governments today boasting
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: it was giving yet another handout sixteen billion dollars to
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  Speaker 2: cut student debt. That British labor tax hit yesterday was
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: to pay for even more massive handouts.
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  Speaker 6: This budget increases benefits for five hundred and sixty thousand
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  Speaker 6: families by an average of five thousand pounds. They are
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: hiking taxes on workers, pensioners and savers to pay for
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  Speaker 6: handouts to keep their backbenchers quiet.
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  Speaker 2: Join me from London is Patrick Christie's star presenter of
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  Speaker 2: GBN News. Patrick, what does your labor government's budget tell.
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  Speaker 12: Us, well, welcome to benefits Britain. Firstly, Andrew absolute pleasure
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  Speaker 12: to be here. And this budget is for the shirkers
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  Speaker 12: and not the workers. I was doing some currency exchanging earlier.
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  Speaker 12: We've had one hundred and thirty three point seven billion
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  Speaker 12: Australian dollars worth of tax rises in just sixteen months.
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  Speaker 12: The welfare state will be eight hundred and twenty two
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  Speaker 12: point seven six billion Australian dollars by twenty thirty. One
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  Speaker 12: in four workers will be paying the higher rate of tax,
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  Speaker 12: which means that nurses, teachers and police officers, well, they're
• 45:14
  Speaker 12: now going to be classed as wealthy. The other aspect
• 45:17
  Speaker 12: of this, which is particularly irksome, is that if you
• 45:19
  Speaker 12: are a Somalian, a Pakistani or a Bangladeshi living in Britain,
• 45:24
  Speaker 12: you can now have as many children as you want
• 45:26
  Speaker 12: and the taxpayer will help to pay for them.
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  Speaker 3: There's also going to be a.
• 45:29
  Speaker 12: Tax on fun so things like milkshakes taxis, a tax
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: on taxis hotels stayed. So if I wanted to leave
• 45:38
  Speaker 12: my house in this country and go and visit my
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: own parents in my hometown, I would have to pay
• 45:45
  Speaker 12: a tax just to go there and stay in a hotel.
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  Speaker 12: I'm very surprised they haven't taxed the very air we breathe.
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: But this is what we get, isn't it. Unfortunately from
• 45:55
  Speaker 12: a labor government. They said they wouldn't do it. They've
• 45:57
  Speaker 12: done it more, and they've done it on steroids and
• 46:00
  Speaker 12: now you know, it's no surprise, is it really that
• 46:03
  Speaker 12: plenty of people are on the first plane out of
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  Speaker 12: here and going to places like Dubai and dare I
• 46:10
  Speaker 12: say it possibly Australia, ass well, if you'll have us.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that. Australias are refuged because, like you,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I suspect the pandemic handouts and the lockdowns and all
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the government spending then to sort of soften the blow
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and keep you it's got people used to the handout mentality.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Patrick and our labor, big spending labor government attacks. Any
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: politician now talking about cutting the handout mentality, cutting spending.
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  Speaker 2: Is there really pushback? Well, it sounded like it a
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: pushback in Britain to this welfare statism.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, there's the first back in Britain from the opposition,
• 46:50
  Speaker 12: clearly as you're hearing there, but also from the British
• 46:53
  Speaker 12: public but that doesn't seem to bother this Labor government.
• 46:55
  Speaker 12: So Rachel Reeves is our chancellor is now the least
• 46:58
  Speaker 12: popular chancellor since records began. Our Prime Minister Cirkis Starma
• 47:01
  Speaker 12: is now the least popular prime minister since records began.
• 47:05
  Speaker 12: But you know, people need to wake up to exactly
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: what this is, what this is going to mean. I mean,
• 47:09
  Speaker 12: the the other aspect of this is that they said
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: they would do things like cuts all asylum seeker hotel accommodations,
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: stop putting them in those margrant hotels, and then it
• 47:20
  Speaker 12: emerges in this budget that they are going to triple
• 47:23
  Speaker 12: the amount of money that we are spending on asylum
• 47:26
  Speaker 12: seeker accommodation. So what's happening in Britain right now is finally,
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: finally people are waking up to where their hardened tax
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: money is going. And we've got three hundred and nine
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: thousand more unemployed people than since Labor came into office.
• 47:43
  Speaker 12: So it really is driving a complete wedge in society.
• 47:47
  Speaker 12: And I can't help but wonder whether or not we
• 47:49
  Speaker 12: are taking part in some kind of experiment see how
• 47:52
  Speaker 12: far people can be pushed before there is some kind
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: of civil unrest. I don't enjoy saying that, but it
• 47:59
  Speaker 12: does feel as though we are being deliberately pushed to
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: the brink a bit here.
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  Speaker 2: And just quickly. I'm sorry they've cut you so short
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: of a time, don't bet enough to see it seemed
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: to be hitting astride there. She sounded actually quite good.
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean she really was. I mean,
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: admittedly it was absolutely fodder to go out. I mean
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: there was even one comical moment and she were at
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: The budget was leaped to the press in full an
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: hour before Rachel Reeves delivered it, and so Rachel Reeves
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: was handed a mobile phone in the House of Commons
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: so she could see that her entini, her budget had
• 48:32
  Speaker 12: been leaked to the press. You know, just really lend
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: weight to the idea that it's a bit of a
• 48:36
  Speaker 12: circus and Rachel Reeves, I'm afraid and Kirstarmer are the
• 48:39
  Speaker 12: clown show.
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Christies, thank you so much for your time. That's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: it from me, Sherry maxing up next. Good night,