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OpenAI interested in ChatGPT wearable integrations · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Well, more smart glasses, new Ai models, and an Instagram
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  Speaker 1: crackdown on creepy videos. This is just some of the
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  Speaker 1: top tech stories we're following today. I want to bring
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  Speaker 1: in c NETS Editor at Large, Scott Stein. Scott, great
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  Speaker 1: to see you. Okay, let's start with the open Ai.
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  Speaker 1: The company is dropping hints on maybe possible wearable hardware aspirations.
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  Speaker 1: What can you tell us?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so open ai is already known to be developing hardware,
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  Speaker 2: and right now there's a lawsuit going on with Apple.
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  Speaker 2: But Greg Brotman, the open AI's president, spoke in New
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  Speaker 2: York last week and I had a chance to talk
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  Speaker 2: with him. He has aspirations for his technology to also
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  Speaker 2: end up on other wearables too. That's meaningful because right now,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of those wearables that I've tried are pretty
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  Speaker 2: much a mess as far as how well they integrate
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  Speaker 2: with services that are already running on your phone and
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  Speaker 2: on your laptop. And open Ai, Anthropic Gemini are the
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  Speaker 2: outliers right now that don't really have integrated services on wearables.
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  Speaker 2: Google's going to have that with its snipsung glasses that
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  Speaker 2: are coming very soon that are going to have Gemini,
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  Speaker 2: But open Ai may be doing some partnerships as well
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  Speaker 2: at some point, or at least opening up the developer access.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk about glasses in a minute,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to get anthropic real quick. It's releasing
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  Speaker 1: a new clawed AI model. What can you tell us
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  Speaker 1: about it? Who is it for?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's more affordable, it's it's it's planning to be
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  Speaker 2: more affordable than than the than their fable model, and
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be something that's focused on automation and
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  Speaker 2: and also for scientific research. Apparently it's better with biological
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  Speaker 2: research needs. It's not saying that I've looked at yet,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, it's interesting to me. Is affordable you know,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of who? Because also a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: services right now seem like they're operating at a loss.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of reports I've talked about the A bubble.
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  Speaker 2: You know, whether that's sustainable in terms of what's being
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  Speaker 2: charged for what the services are being offered. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if there's going to increase in the future,
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  Speaker 2: which it seems like that would be very likely. But
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  Speaker 2: but this is you know, the idea of making more
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  Speaker 2: efficient models seems like an important territory, especially as a
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  Speaker 2: lot of AI companies are talking and asking for a
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  Speaker 2: pause on how fast these frontier models evolve.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to get back to these smart classes.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're so interesting. Let's talk about metas. Smart classes.
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  Speaker 1: Are they helping to normalize recording people secretly? And is
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  Speaker 1: how is Instagram cracking down on this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're definitely sparking a lot of upset because right now,
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  Speaker 2: the worry about them being normalized and the fear of
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  Speaker 2: being you know, recorded without consent and what's happening there
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  Speaker 2: is pretty rampant right now, especially on social media, and
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of you know, counterrag campaigns that
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  Speaker 2: I've seen and and complaints about it and real concerns
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  Speaker 2: and places that are banning smart glasses. So right now,
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  Speaker 2: one of the problems is harassment while wearing the glasses,
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  Speaker 2: recording and then posting, and Instagram's had Adam Massari said
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  Speaker 2: that video showing harassment with the glasses will be taken down,
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  Speaker 2: which should have been an action happening all along. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: any video showing harassment should be taken down. That shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be a thing that should be on their platform, period,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's recorded on a phone or otherwise. But they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be trying to flag more of those. But again,
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  Speaker 2: this feels like a genie that got out of its bottle.
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  Speaker 2: They should have been thinking about bad actors in the
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  Speaker 2: first place, because you do have glasses that could be
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  Speaker 2: on and recording in a lot of different instances in public.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw this with Google Glass some of the
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  Speaker 1: first iterations of these glasses where people were either being
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  Speaker 1: harassing by wearing the glasses and recording people, or people
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  Speaker 1: harassing the people who are wearing the glasses. Apple expected
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  Speaker 1: to release its smart glasses in the near future. What
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  Speaker 1: can you tell us about their plans? And I'm curious
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  Speaker 1: if you think that if Apple is going to come
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  Speaker 1: out with their own model, if you're going to start
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  Speaker 1: seeing these glasses more out in the wild.
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  Speaker 2: You will start seeing the glasses more for sure, I
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  Speaker 2: think simply because more companies are going to be making them,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to be available in more eyewear manufacturing situations,
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  Speaker 2: more eyewear stores. Google and Samsung have smart glasses coming
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  Speaker 2: out made by Warby Parker and General Monster late this year.
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  Speaker 2: Apples are now being reported widely report to come out
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  Speaker 2: next year with a debut at their Developer Conference. I
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  Speaker 2: thought they were going to come out this year, and
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  Speaker 2: Apple's apparently concerned about privacy. Samsung has mentioned concerns about privacy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everyone's thinking about that, and they should have
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  Speaker 2: been thinking about that. Part of the thing, I think
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  Speaker 2: is early tech where social contract still needs to be there,
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  Speaker 2: and part of it is a better design and awareness
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  Speaker 2: in the glasses and in the software that people can use,
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  Speaker 2: because some of this is going to be for visual assistance,
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  Speaker 2: hearing assistance, cognitive impairment assistance. There's actual assistant features that
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  Speaker 2: these glasses are already being used for and will be
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  Speaker 2: used for more. And I'm sure that Apple is going
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  Speaker 2: to be looking at that territory. The more advanced the
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  Speaker 2: AI gets on these glasses, they'll be doing more features.
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  Speaker 2: But that has to be balanced against how invasive they
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  Speaker 2: seem to be and how comfortable people are with how
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  Speaker 2: they work.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any idea on the sales numbers on
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  Speaker 1: some of these glasses? Are they doing well?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, right now, there have been reports that it's
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  Speaker 2: been you know, several million at least, I think like
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  Speaker 2: maybe up to seven million. I'm paraphrasing in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the numbers of a glasses of metas glasses that have
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  Speaker 2: been sold in the past year, but you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: still a far smaller number compared to something like phones.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's showing that there's been an interest, and
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  Speaker 2: there's definitely been an awareness, but that tide can really turn.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, in the everyday world, it's very hard to
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  Speaker 2: find people wearing these glasses, and most people I talk
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  Speaker 2: to still don't really know what they are and have
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  Speaker 2: never really seen them warn that.
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  Speaker 1: Often, I mean full transparency. Our studio is in San Francisco,
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  Speaker 1: the capital of tech for the whole world, and I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell you, Scott, I have never seen anybody
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  Speaker 1: wearing these glasses. And it feels like that line of
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  Speaker 1: mean girls, you know, where they say you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: make fetch happen. It's not going to happen. I'm curious
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  Speaker 1: if that's the case with these smart glasses. Are tech
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  Speaker 1: companies just trying to make these things happen and the
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  Speaker 1: public's kind of going what there's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of the tech companies just trying to make this happen.
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  Speaker 2: And it's also to me a factor of the speed
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  Speaker 2: of AI, where it's accelerated so drastically where everybody's trying
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  Speaker 2: to make AI happen too, and this stuff is trying
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  Speaker 2: to be pushed out there without being thoughtfully designed, considered
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  Speaker 2: for what types of apps or software where everyday use
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  Speaker 2: people have, or how the real world is going to
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  Speaker 2: use it. And also, you know, companies like Meta are
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  Speaker 2: coming out ahead of some of the biggest companies like Apple, Samsung,
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  Speaker 2: Google that are going to be evolving this. It reminds
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  Speaker 2: me of earbuds, which I'm wearing now. You know, at
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  Speaker 2: one point everyone didn't like wireless earbuds and then they did,
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  Speaker 2: so sometimes tastes can change, but sometimes public policies change. Already,
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  Speaker 2: places are banning smart classes that could flip around if
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  Speaker 2: people feel like there are better privacy considerations in place.
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  Speaker 2: But Meta historically has been a really bad company for
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  Speaker 2: dealing with that. So I think it's early days, but
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  Speaker 2: you're right right now, the feeling is why is this
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  Speaker 2: being pushed on us as opposed to what can an
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  Speaker 2: offer us?
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  Speaker 1: Scott Stein love talking to you, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you