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Ep. 13 | The Kind of Worship God Invites Us Into · The HighDive

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SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome back to the High Dive Podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: We are so glad that you found us or that you've returned to us.
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SPEAKER_02: Man, in case this is your first time, Gray, this is your first time.
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SPEAKER_02: The High Dive Podcast is a podcast of Calvary Baptist Church here in Columbus, Georgia.
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SPEAKER_02: And really, uh, this may be an opportunity to explain to you in a way that if you get it, I can explain to them.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, really, we started this, Gray, as a way to go a little further in conversations from our study, whether it's the sermon that we talked about this past week or the series that we're navigating through.
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SPEAKER_02: And uh prayerfully, it's a way to kind of spur us on to search the scriptures more, to look for ways to apply and truthfully, as long-winded as I can be.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe it creates an opportunity to share some things that I wanted to share in a sermon but didn't have time for.
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SPEAKER_02: So uh really glad that you're here.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm excited.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, for you, if you found us for the first time, please hear our heart.
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SPEAKER_02: Um uh we hope you're encouraged and blessed.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe you're part of our church, and this is a way that we can connect further.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe you're somewhere on the interweb and you found this and you have not connected with a local church where you live.
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SPEAKER_02: We would love to help you find a community of believers where you live.
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SPEAKER_02: So uh that being said, let's just dive in.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, so this past Sunday, we spent some time talking through Psalm 100.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I'd love just to hear your thoughts.
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SPEAKER_02: But before we hear your thoughts on some of those things, it might be wise just to slow down and let everybody know who you are.
1:57
SPEAKER_02: So I already mentioned your name, but yeah, uh man, who are you, dude?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm Greg Cole.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm from Daphne, Alabama, down there in South Alabama, Bowen County.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and honestly, the only way to describe how I got here is God ordained sovereignty.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I met Ricky and Philip in the south of France, uh, what, four months ago, five months ago?
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SPEAKER_00: Back in February.
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SPEAKER_00: February.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, we spent a week together.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, my roommate and I from college were down there doing some missions work.
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SPEAKER_00: And we met these guys um through Patrick Thompson down there.
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SPEAKER_00: He is pastoring International Christian Fellowship in Monaco.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that it?
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SPEAKER_02: Monaco Christian Fellowship.
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SPEAKER_00: Monaco, technically, which is an international fellowship.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cool.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And so we are down there, ran into these guys, stayed in touch, and then four or five months later, I have come on staff.
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SPEAKER_00: This is my first week today, Mark's one week on staff.
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SPEAKER_00: So happy one week anniversary to myself.
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SPEAKER_00: Um as a pastoral resident, meaning that I'm going to be learning, sitting, and teaching and meetings and all of the things learning how to do ministry, how to serve the church, how to do everything that a pastor wants to do to learn how to love people, serve people, um, and serve Christ and his church.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and we're glad you're here.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm glad to be here taking classes, doing all the full-time seminary.
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SPEAKER_00: Full-time seminary.
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SPEAKER_02: Where are you going to do in seminary?
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm in Liberty, okay, getting my master's of divinity, and so I'm about an eighth of the way done.
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SPEAKER_00: But who's counting, right?
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SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and then New Orleans Baptist through this residency that you're stepping into.
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SPEAKER_02: So a little more about that.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, first of all, I would affirm it's absolutely God's providence and sovereignty that we met.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, even the details in which we met and why you were connected with Patrick the week that we just happened to be there, and the conversations that we've had since then.
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SPEAKER_02: And I remember us talking about wanting to get together.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And you're like, well, I'm just I'm gonna be like in Florida.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll be kind of near I can drive over.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like, well, when are you gonna be in Florida?
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, well, I'll be in the Florida at the same time.
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SPEAKER_02: And so there's been so many of those moments where the Lord has just kind of affirmed.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, and and even after we met and started those conversations, um, our the Columbus Baptist Association, which uh, for lack of a better word, is a network of like-minded churches in our community.
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SPEAKER_02: We are, as an association, we have formed this residency program.
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SPEAKER_02: So there's actually three churches in our community.
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SPEAKER_02: We're one of three who each have a pastor resident on staff.
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SPEAKER_02: And so Gray's working with us, but there will be opportunities for Gray and those other two residents, along with the three church pastors, to get together almost in a cohort just to learn together.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, so we're very excited.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and all right, so this is an unprimed, unprepared question.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, your week one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: What's what's been the thing that surprised you the most or caught you off guard?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I think I really loved this.
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SPEAKER_00: I knew the staff would um be cordial, obviously, but it really caught me off guard with how closely knit um and like-minded, and um just how y'all actually do life together as a staff, as um not just coworkers, but genuine friends, like hearing the stories from Philip's daughter's birthday party and the staff being there and just like truly loving one another and serving one another, um, is something that you like you hope for and you would wish that a staff would do, but it's like this is one step further.
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SPEAKER_00: And like I've been invited into that, and it's just made me feel at home, um, made me feel loved and seen and cared for.
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SPEAKER_00: And like even you just calling yesterday on the way home.
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SPEAKER_00: Hey, you want me to help you set up your Wi-Fi?
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SPEAKER_00: It's just um something that I'm excited to get to step into more.
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SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, just wait uh for the moments where the uh staff group chat gets unhinged.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So we got World Cup championship still to come.
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SPEAKER_02: There's no telling what'll happen.
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SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, we're grateful that you're here.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, and I appreciate you being willing to step into this um and just engage in this conversation.
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SPEAKER_02: So let's kind of jump into Psalm 100.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, this is a really familiar psalm.
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SPEAKER_02: I think, I think any of us that have been around the church um probably memorize this at some point because it's really short.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and in fact, let's just do this.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's let's read it in its entirety.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and that may give us a little bit of refresher context, uh, or if you're watching, you've never really heard it completely.
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SPEAKER_02: The things that we'll talk about will hyperlink back.
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SPEAKER_02: So Psalm 100, it just simply reads this.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm bringing reading from the ESV English Standard Version.
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SPEAKER_02: Make a joyful noise to the Lord all the earth.
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SPEAKER_02: Serve the Lord with gladness, come into his presence with singing.
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SPEAKER_02: Know that the Lord, he is God, it is he who made us, and we are his.
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SPEAKER_02: We are his people and the sheep of his pasture.
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SPEAKER_02: Enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise.
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SPEAKER_02: Give thanks to him, bless his name.
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SPEAKER_02: For the Lord is good, his steadfast love endures forever, and his faithfulness to all generations.
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SPEAKER_02: Man, I uh the I think the one word that comes to my mind about this song, it's just very worshipful.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um when you hear that word worship, what are some of the things that first come to your mind?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, just growing up in in and near the church, when you you first think worship, you think Chris Tomlin, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Sure, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You think of CC Wine and you think of singing.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's ultimately a part of worship, right?
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SPEAKER_00: But we need to reframe and refocus our minds that worship is not just singing, um, definitely encompassing as the psalmist talks about, you know, sing songs, sing joyful songs to the Lord, but um, so much more than that.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: I I agree with you, like um singing comes to mind, yeah, music comes to mind, or even kind of from growing up in church, worship is associated with worship and music, which we just said, or worship service.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, worship service.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's either this song or this um 20 minutes within church time, or it's this hour where I go, I get in my car, I go to worship.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to this destination, and there's a start time and an end time, and it better not go too long because you're not gonna get your lunch.
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SPEAKER_02: I got to roll.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and I think it's fair to say worship includes those things, but they're not it's inclusive but not exhaustive.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Is that a good way to say it?
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: So I think I think Sunday's message, I hope today's conversation just kind of we can slow down a look and look at where and how joy and worship is commanded.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, what does it mean to truly know God?
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SPEAKER_02: And that's an that's an interesting question.
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SPEAKER_02: And ultimately, how does all that point to Jesus?
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SPEAKER_02: So um, so let's let's just kind of start with this idea of joy.
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SPEAKER_02: Joy.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, back in the text, it says in verse one, make a joyful noise unto the Lord.
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SPEAKER_02: And we mentioned kind of that that joyful noise is the idea of rua, which is the this like erupting with uh have you ever been in a place where all of a sudden the crowd just erupted?
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SPEAKER_02: What were some of those places?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I think of the one that stands out is Auburn, Texas AM 2024.
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SPEAKER_00: We were terrible.
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SPEAKER_00: However, Texas AM comes into town for the last home game of the year, and we upset them, top top 15 team in the country, and four overtime, something like that.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and we ended up beating them in overtime, and everybody stormed the field.
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SPEAKER_00: And like that is the moment where like you're like sitting there and awe is quiet, you can hear a pin drop, and it's just absolute chaos.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and yeah, you you introduced the idea on Sunday um about the World Cup.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
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SPEAKER_00: Fans just going crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, yeah, and I, you know, I've heard I can't tell you how many sermons I've sat in where somebody be like, you know, we'll get up and we'll we'll shout at the brave game, but we come to church and we're just you know sitting on our hands.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, amen.
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SPEAKER_02: Amen.
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SPEAKER_02: I I don't I don't know that necessarily the intention is to condemn celebrations at an Auburn football game.
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SPEAKER_02: You're an Auburn grad, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Were you in the student section that day, by the way?
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SPEAKER_02: I was.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know that the intent is necessarily to condemn, you know, those fun celebrations.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: But as much as it is to compare like that type of response with joy, uh, because it I mean it's a command here.
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SPEAKER_02: Why why do you think why do you think joy is a command and not just I'm gonna encourage you to do this?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So the first place my brain goes is like to Galatians 5.
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SPEAKER_00: Um we see love commanded, we see throughout the scriptures all of these nine things that Galatians 5 talks about being the fruit of the spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and I think ultimately is because unbelievers see that, these these nine things in you, and they know that it's different because they don't possess that.
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SPEAKER_00: Um like joy being a fruit of the spirit is God gave you the Holy Spirit um when you received salvation as a gift, as an advocate, as the scriptures say, um, so that you may uh know him more, but also connect and and be something that the world is not.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and so it's an interesting thought um the difference between like joy and happiness.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Because those are I think we put them as identical things and they're not.
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SPEAKER_02: I think um I certainly know the feeling of happiness, for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: But I've also experienced and witnessed others express joy in sadness.
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SPEAKER_02: I I can, for example, I can reflect on in my years of pastoral ministry, like sitting with a widow or a widower who is grieving the love of their life who has just passed.
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SPEAKER_02: And they're deeply sad, like they're in the throes of grief, but they're joyful.
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SPEAKER_02: And that joy comes sometimes like in the breaks of tears and crying, but it normally comes through with like um they're praising the Lord that they're not hurting anymore, or they're looking around and they're grateful for the people that are loving them, or they're they're reflecting with uh they're telling a story and even starting to laugh because there's a memory that's bringing them joy.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I think there is a connection to joy.
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SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you've made the observation of Christ in us and the power of the Spirit, like He is He is joy, so therefore He in when He is in us, joy should be replicated or produced.
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SPEAKER_02: But when we remember the goodness of the Lord, and when we reflect with Thanksgiving the presence of the Lord, there's a there's a pathway toward expressing joy even when we're not happy.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um but I I do think it's confusing.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I think an example though, you mentioned Galatians 5, we could go over to Philippians.
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SPEAKER_02: And I mean, Paul is writing there's so many quotable references to the idea of joy lived out from Philippians, but Paul is writing that while he's in prison.
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SPEAKER_02: So how do you how do you figure that out?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, and it's it's almost difficult to wrap our minds around because we Paul is not writing Philippians out of joy from the prison cell because God just said, here, Paul, I'm gonna sprinkle a little bit more joy on you when you're created.
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SPEAKER_00: Um He is not just naturally a more joyful person than you or I, but this idea of joy like starts with surrender and submission constantly to the Holy Spirit and being aware and available to what the Spirit is doing through us, so that when the time comes, I think about the book of Acts when when was it Peter in the jail and they started singing songs of worship that this Paul and Silas Paul and Silas, yeah, and Acts.
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SPEAKER_00: Um when they're in the jail cell and they start singing and people come to know Jesus, it was because they were submitted and available and open to what the Spirit was doing.
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SPEAKER_00: That's where their joy came from.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think the challenge for us in the Christian life is learning that my joy is not attached to my circumstances, or it's not my joy is not conditional to my circumstances.
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SPEAKER_02: I think when you when you see the life of Paul, and even man, even when you get to Philippians chapter four, you know, this the classic often quoted out of context, Philippians 4 13.
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SPEAKER_02: I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, that that is not him saying, Therefore I can bench press 500 pounds.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not a matter of ignoring any physical limitations, instead, it's all about contentment.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And so in the preceding verses, he says, I have learned to be abased and to abound.
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SPEAKER_02: So through successes and failures, through experience, walking with the Lord, in rhythm with the Spirit, Galatians 5.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Paul had learned contentment regardless of his circumstances.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: And as contentment uh was in Christ, uh joy does not pretend that life is always going to be easy, but joy is an expression that God is worthy no matter what.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I think uh I'm preaching to myself here too.
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SPEAKER_02: Like uh there is a I can celebrate Christ even when my situation is not something to be celebrated.
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SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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SPEAKER_00: And I what comes to mind is when you mention the word contentment, I think in the same way that we do joy and happiness, we do with contentment and comfort of you know, like contentment is rooted in the character of God as is joy, and that's ultimately where we get our contentment, whereas comfort and happiness are rooted in how we feel, um, our circumstances, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Like Paul was not comfortable in the jail, surely not.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and he probably wasn't even happy, but he was joyful and he was content.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I think I'm gonna process a thought externally without really thinking it through, which I do a lot, okay.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh you can pressure test this to make sure I'm accurate.
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SPEAKER_02: Happiness is an emotion, yeah, it's a feeling.
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SPEAKER_02: Agreed.
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SPEAKER_02: Joy is a state of mind.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh joy is positional.
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SPEAKER_02: So therefore, joy can be constant while emotions can fluctuate.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I still think there is a connection, and and the end of uh Psalm 100 links back to this of Thanksgiving and gratitude.
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SPEAKER_02: I think of, I'm not mentioning his name, but we've got a guy here on our staff, he's in our um facilities, maintenance, janitorial team.
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SPEAKER_02: Every time you see him, it's like, man, how are you today?
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SPEAKER_02: And he'll smile.
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SPEAKER_02: He's like, I'm just grateful.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so grateful.
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SPEAKER_02: And his countenance is one of joy because his heart is in a place of gratitude.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And he could be frustrated, he could be having a bad day, he could have just done some very extraneous work, but his mindset is one of gratitude, which is interlinked with joy, and all of that flows out of the spirit in us, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, which I think it it kind of leads us into this next segment because the text leads us to like make a joyful noise.
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SPEAKER_02: Like this is a position.
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SPEAKER_02: Know that the Lord, He is God, so erupt rua because you Yada, which is knowing in that it to know the Lord is to yada the Lord.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the same, um, it's like a very intimate, experiential.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I've I've been with you, like we've we've connected.
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SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Um so that goes way deeper than a Sunday.
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SPEAKER_02: Um why do you think that's important?
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SPEAKER_00: Knowing is the base, I would say the basis for being able to be joyful and to know God, to know Christ's love, to know doctrine.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Doctrine is important.
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SPEAKER_00: These facts um are important, but they aren't all encompassing, maybe would be a fair way to say that.
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SPEAKER_00: Like our knowledge doesn't necessarily finish line.
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SPEAKER_00: The finish line is to know um intimately and then live a life that reflects that you know Christ and you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Christ intimately.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: This is as you say that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I just had lunch with a guy today.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
22:10
SPEAKER_02: And he is he's rearing two adolescent girls.
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SPEAKER_02: And they're like 10, 11, 12, 13 kind of in that window.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was, he was, he said, like, man, girls are at the place where their response to everything is, I know, I know, I know, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: And he's he's trying to not let that irk him.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And and we began this conversation about, you know, how through adolescence, even truthfully early adulthood, while a person's brain is still being developed, like how to show grace towards somebody who thinks they figured it out, but clearly they haven't, here's the point, they haven't yet experienced life enough to really know anything.
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SPEAKER_02: So based upon their context and their limited experience at that point, they may say, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: And in their head, they may think, I know.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But without the experience, without the seasoning, and without the failure, truthfully.
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SPEAKER_02: Like you know, but you really don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: And I and I I fear when we start to lay that over with the way people view their relationship with God.
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SPEAKER_02: I think some people, I don't want to go so far, but in some ways they've they've they're following a false gospel in that they're like, yeah, I know that.
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SPEAKER_02: I got I know that I know that I'm a sinner and I know that Jesus died for my sin.
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SPEAKER_02: And I know that if I ask him to forgive me, he will.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm good.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And they they can quote some Bible verses so they've got the data, data, data, whatever it is, but there isn't any yada in their heart.
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SPEAKER_02: Um and that's sad.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: We're missing something.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And the scripture is in James 2 of like even the demons believe in the shudder of like the demons know, but they don't yadah.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, and not to correlate someone in the church that only has head knowledge of who Jesus is.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm not trying to put words in my mouth.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: But um there's a difference between like, you know, you know, but like, do you know?
24:35
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
24:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can I can know about someone without knowing them.
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SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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SPEAKER_02: I could even know, goodness.
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SPEAKER_02: I let's talk about me and you right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I know you for sure.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: We've had some experiences, but I don't yet know you.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: Meaning, uh there, I'm sure there's some parts of my life that I've not been vulnerable with you.
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SPEAKER_02: There's some parts of your story that you've not shared with me.
25:02
SPEAKER_02: Now we're getting to know each other.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: But um there's just a, I think it's a it's a picture of just the the depth of the riches of the knowledge of Christ.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: Amen.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: That I'm just striving to know like I'm hungry, like the more I taste, the more I want.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: Um so uh, but here's a question though.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: How do how do you think someone uh can experience that depth, can deepen their faith, deepen their theology, deepen their their knowing?
25:41
SPEAKER_02: How can somebody do that?
25:43
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh, uh I think of Psalm 46 when when the psalmist writes, be still and know that I am God.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: I will be exalted in the heavens, I will be exalted among the earth.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: I think before he says no, he says, be still.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: And that no is a yada, um, is the Hebrew yada.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Um so be like I think it's a way for us to position ourselves, to position our soul to know we're gonna be still and we're gonna be available, kind of like what we were talking about um with the spirit of like when we position ourselves to be still and quiet before God and to sit at the cross with a posture of thanksgiving, um, God reveals Himself to us through our stillness, our quietness.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, not of like a physical, obviously, sit still, but like of contentment, essentially, to use a word that we've been discussing.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think too, like uh I'm gonna I'm gonna lead you somewhere intentionally.
26:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: So we're you and I are both still learning, but you you've got a good grasp on the gospel, you've got a good grasp on uh theology and scripture.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: How did you get there?
27:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: Um failure one.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: Okay, um let's put a pen in that, we'll come back to it.
27:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, but just constantly showing up every single day.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, spiritual disciplines, orienting and positioning myself to be able to put myself in a posture of like you're gonna know God through his word, and you're gonna sit and you're gonna meditate on his word.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: We um you spoke up on Psalm one a few a few weeks ago.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, of like, we're gonna meditate on God's word.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: Bless is the one who doesn't do this, but meditates on the word of God, um, to position myself to live a lifestyle of prayer, to um put myself in biblical community, people that um not only point me to these disciplines, but point me to um Christ um and back to the cross and and so many other things like that.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: All right.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: So I think categorically you just shared three different ingredients.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: And there may be more.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm not even projecting that this is exhaustive, but the first thing you said was failure.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: I think suffering deepens our knowledge of God.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: Um I will, this is a rabbit trial.
28:26
SPEAKER_02: I think sometimes we we apply that word suffering to things that aren't really suffering.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: Like when my air conditioner goes out in my house, I'm not I'm not really suffering.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: But but through failure, crisis, just encountering the reality of a sinful, evil world.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: So, okay, there's one point.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: You talked about showing up, like with the Lord, reading scripture, prayer.
28:53
SPEAKER_02: I'll put that in the category of just being obedient.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: You know, He is uh Father God has extended this invitation for us to be still and know that He is God.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: And if I don't with rhythms, disciplines, habits, whatever word I want to use that feels less offensive, um, those are all practices of obedience.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: Like walk with me, be with me, uh, meet me in the garden, so to speak.
29:23
SPEAKER_02: But I think that third one is huge.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: You reference biblical community.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: Because in that space where I can work it out with somebody, like I can sometimes it may feel like a debate, sometimes it may feel like a what do you think about this?
29:44
SPEAKER_02: What do you think about this verse?
29:46
SPEAKER_02: I heard someone so-and-so say this.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: What do you think about and those conversations that you mentioned the uh the connection with when we met in France, like you and your roommate, you guys would debate the the best verse baseman in the Atlanta Braves history, which who who do you think that is, by the way?
30:09
SPEAKER_00: It's Freddie Freeman.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: However, Matt Olson's well on his way.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right, so we'll interject.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: I I saw the other day, like Freddie Freeman, not Freddie Freeman, Matt Olson.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: Uh, if you do a side-by-side statistical comparison of Freddie Freeman's contribution to the Braves and Matt, they're almost identical.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Matt Olson's well on his way.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: And he's making a lot less money too.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: He's making a lot less money, and the number of games he's played consecutively is ridiculous.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: Incredible.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: Ridiculous.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: Also, shout out to Fred McGriff, M O B Hall of Famer Crime Dog, baby.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: M OB Hall of Famer.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: So uh we chased that rabbit.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: We just Gray's also an avid Braves fan.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: But when you're with that person or those people that you can debate those things freely, and we were willing to do that with scripture, with theology, it deepens our knowledge because we're challenged, like we're stretched.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Iron sharpens iron, so women sharpens another.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I just think I think I think that idea of suffering, obedience, and true biblical community are ways to deepen and develop that yada, a knowledge of the Lord.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: I think of Patrick one day on the on the train ride home from Monaco.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, we're readers, we're all big readers.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: I asked Patrick, I said, What are you reading?
31:43
SPEAKER_00: And he responded with a book, and he's like, I was like, Oh, is it good?
31:46
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Well, I want to let you know.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, I do this every once in a while where I read something that I don't believe.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, I read, say, it's a book on the prosperity gospel and someone pro-prosperity gospel or something along those lines.
32:01
SPEAKER_00: Because he wants to know um and be challenged to um you can't know what you don't know.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was super encouraging for me because it's like that would be a book that I would push away and say, I'm not reading that.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: But it challenges him to know um Christ better and to know ways that he can better have conversation with others.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh, speaking of things that you read or things that you've studied, we were talking offline about this idea of Yadnah.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: You even mentioned like the difference between information versus incarnation.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: Informational, incarnational.
32:40
unknown: Yeah.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: Kind of unpack that for us a little bit.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: So as we were talking a little bit about, is it doesn't stop at no um head knowledge.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: It's gotta go to our heart and the way we live our lives.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: So this idea of informational apologetics would be um doctrine, things you know to be true.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: Um let's let's go about, or let's talk about biblical infallibility.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: Um the Bible is infallible.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I think we both can agree.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: But when you're in a conversation with someone, the best way to, or this is what David Wheeler of Liberty University would say, is to live that out.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: If I can convince you that the Bible is infallible and it's completely true and it's without error with information, I can take it a step further by living that out.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: I can live out joy whenever my circumstances don't look like that.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: I can love my neighbor as myself even when I don't want to.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: I can fulfill the great commission.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: And we could go on and on and on with biblical commands.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, but when we live that out, it takes it a step further of like, okay, this guy says that he believes that to wow, like this guy actually believes it.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh I was I was talking with somebody just the other day uh navigating an extremely trying situation.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: I would put it in the suffering category.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: And um, this person I was talking to was a believer.
34:16
SPEAKER_02: And and I reminded them, I said, you know, there there are moments in life, and I'm preaching to myself here too, by the way.
34:23
SPEAKER_02: I I've got to resist the temptation to allow scripture to fit me rather than allowing my life to fit scripture.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: So when I take that mindset and I overlay any situation um where the rubber meets the road is am I gonna be dogmatic or drive a stake in the ground about this issue or opinion?
34:49
SPEAKER_02: It could be social, political, whatever.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: I dagum, I'm right.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: And that sense of defiance, judgment, um, conviction out of a desire to stand for truth, if I'm not careful, can cause me to not live out the gospel.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, to not be joyful, to not be gracious, to not be merciful, to not be loving, to not be patient, to not be meek.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: Um and so, like in those moments, is okay, if it's I can have the information, for example, and I can know what's right, what's wrong, what's sin, what's obedience, and all that.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: But if it's incarnational, I've got to then live out the gospel uh where I live, work, learn, and play.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: And that's the test.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: Am I actually going to live it out and be faithful to the heart of the gospel?
35:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: So because kind of moving aside, I think going back to Psalm 100, maybe that's why it's fitting that we get the analogy of being a sheep, right?
36:01
SPEAKER_02: You know, because we're just not smart all the time.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: I think it's interesting.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: No, and be like this dumb animal.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: Like that's an interesting contrast we see, right?
36:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, absolutely.
36:13
SPEAKER_02: Tell me what you think about that whole image of being a sheep or having a shepherd.
36:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh, as you mentioned, sheep do really nothing well.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're not the best-looking animal.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: I think you mentioned that from the pulpit this week, and you do right.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: I think they're ugly.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're not fast, they're not agile, and like they really don't even taste that good.
36:38
SPEAKER_00: Like, let's be honest.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, but they do do one thing well, and that is listen to their shepherd.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: Um and the Israelites through the scriptures were used to being called sheep.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: I I mean I think of so many different places in the scriptures where like we are referenced, the Israelites and like now us are referenced as sheep.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: And the Israelites didn't take it as a an as an insult, but rather like that's where they found their contentment is like we have a shepherd.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, and they found contentment in that because they knew that they didn't have to protect themselves.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they were there was protection, there was provision.
37:21
SPEAKER_02: I was safe and I don't need anything.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh by the way, have you seen this?
37:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, it looks like it's maybe Ireland or whatever, and there's this kind of this deep channel, and there's this sheep stuck in it.
37:38
SPEAKER_02: And it's the picture of the shepherd or wherever, he's digging down, he's in the mud, and he's trying to lift this sheep up, and he finally gets him unstuck, and the sheep runs to the field and jumps right back in the channel.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: It's like this is my life, right?
37:52
SPEAKER_02: Literally.
37:53
SPEAKER_02: Um, literally.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: But I I think because of that analogy, uh the ancient Near East mindset would have certainly latched on to the depth of that image better than we do.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh, because there aren't a lot of shepherds roaming around where we live.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: But I think I think there is meaning that Jesus intentionally calls himself the good shepherd in John 10 10.
38:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh, because he's he's gonna lay his life down for the sheep.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, so I mean, what is what does that mean to you?
38:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you kind of want to get a little personal, what does it mean for you that Jesus uh is your shepherd and sacrificial lamb?
38:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's very ironic, right?
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Of like you see like Jesus as a shepherd, um, because the shepherds were the the lowly of everyone else.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: You see David chosen last by his father because he was a shepherd.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: Um and so this idea of like the lion and the lamb, of like Christ being all powerful, but willing to Philippians to humble himself to the point of obedience of death, even death on a cross.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: Um and like an Israelite, as we were saying, like that gives me peace knowing that whatever I may walk through, like God, as my good shepherd, is going to provide for me, he's going to protect me.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: And like, as I was praying like months ago, of like I've graduated college, I need a job.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, what does that look like?
39:37
SPEAKER_00: And like seeing God intervene in my life and place people in my life that like here, like six months later, in a time that was stressful for me and produced anxiety and all of the things of not knowing what the future looked like.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: That was my sheep moment where I can now look back with Thanksgiving and praise of say, like, God, you have led me through the wilderness and now you have provided for me and protected me.
40:05
SPEAKER_00: And like, I just want to be a sheep.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's really what it boils down to.
40:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:10
SPEAKER_02: I I find myself uh, I may have even said this Sunday.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: It's like I started with, I don't want to be associated with a sheep, but actually, I I kind of like to be called a sheep.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, because that it does when we see that in our life, and we're able to have the eyes to see God's provision, see his security in our life.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think verse 5 in Psalm 100, like it's it's calling us to a place of praise, to thanksgiving, of gratitude, of of reflecting.
40:43
SPEAKER_02: Um and gratitude genuinely reshapes our heart.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: Gratitude is the anecdote to anxiety.
40:54
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
40:55
SPEAKER_00: Did you know that?
40:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what's this what's the statistic that the heart can't be grateful and anxious at the same time?
41:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure if you ever heard that.
41:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh I haven't heard of statistic.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: Maybe not statistic, but the science behind there is neuroscience for sure.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: Like the same part of my brain that produces anxiety is the same part of my brain that processes gratitude.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: And that part of my brain can only do one of those two things at one time.
41:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: So there is um there is a direct connection to the practice of gratitude and the result in joy.
41:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh a grateful person is a more joyful person.
41:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, and so we have so much to be grateful for.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: In fact, that that's one of the things I'd even uh kind of challenged this to do this Sunday, or if you weren't there, like just the the the beauty of a gratitude journal, um slowing down and processing, okay, what what is the Lord doing for me now or in the recent days that I need to slow down and be grateful for?
42:01
SPEAKER_02: You just mentioned you're grateful that the Lord's answered this prayer, provided job for you.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm we needed some more staff support because our our staff are tired working through a church through unprecedented growth.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: So the Lord provided some more help.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: And so, I mean, it's it's absolutely beautiful.
42:23
SPEAKER_00: And this idea of the good shepherd, too, is is interesting to me because I think it's so much more powerful than like what?
42:33
SPEAKER_00: Like at the time when Jesus is speaking and he says, I am the good shepherd, is something that just dawned on me is like that was a claim because these Israelites were so used to being called sheep throughout the scriptures that they knew, like this was a claim that Jesus was God.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
42:51
SPEAKER_00: Like I am the Good Shepherd, I am your God, I am the Messiah coming to redeem and to save you.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, because oftentimes, like myself, I read The Good Shepherd, I'm like, it doesn't mean that Jesus is just the best at taking care of the sheep.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: He is, but it's like so much more than just like I'm the Good Shepherd.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: It's like I am your God.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: All right, so this would be a just a fun question to kind of start landing the plane.
43:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh if you reflect back through Psalm 100, um is there a verse you like the most?
43:27
SPEAKER_02: Is there a word that sticks out to you the most?
43:31
SPEAKER_02: Is there um is there a phrase or a concept that surprises you the most?
43:40
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to answer all those, but I think something that stands out is the beginning of verse four.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: It's like enter if we can just focus on a three word phrase, like enter his gates.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: Just like the idea of showing up.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Every day putting myself in a position to grow in praise and thanksgiving and ultimately letting the spirit transform me through to love one another better, to love him better, to love everyone in my life better, to serve better, to um be more patient, to be more kind, to be more gentle with people, to be more self-controlled.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Um just like every day, what does it look like to enter his gaze, essentially?
44:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: Can I process that thought with you?
44:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, please.
44:38
SPEAKER_02: I've not made this connection before.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: All right, so um a few years back, I've told you that I had the opportunity to go to Israel.
44:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: So we were way up in the northern part of Israel in the ancient tribe of Dan.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: And we came into this, I can't even remember the name of the we'll call it village, city.
45:05
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
45:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's an it's an ancient city that we know Abraham walked through those gates.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: And so the they've excavated and preserved enough that you can walk literally walk through the gates.
45:24
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
45:25
SPEAKER_02: And so the way the way those ancient gates, now they may have varied in terms of size and scale, but when you walk through the gates, on either side, there would be kind of open rooms that opened up into the gates.
45:46
SPEAKER_02: So, and it was important, like if we were protecting the city from a siege, right?
45:53
SPEAKER_02: We might have soldiers with spears at each point through the gates.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: It's another line of defense.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: So it was been those gates were structured in a way to strengthen the defense of the people.
46:08
SPEAKER_02: But but in the normal day of life, the gates are where the elders of the city would go sit.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: They would go sit at the gates and just be available for people.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: So if I needed advice, I needed counsel, and I needed to go hear wisdom from the elders, I would go to the gates.
46:35
SPEAKER_02: So there's an interesting maybe application of, okay, what does it mean to enter his gates with Thanksgiving?
46:44
SPEAKER_02: And there's a, I could take that imagery of an ancient gate to realize, okay, I can be thankful that he's protecting me all along the way when the enemy keeps coming in.
46:54
SPEAKER_02: There are more and more lines of defense as he's guarding me and shielding me as my shepherd.
46:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I can even practically think through reasons why when I walk through community of a local church where I need that multi-generational.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: He even says in verse 7, he speaks to the faith of generations, right?
47:15
SPEAKER_02: I need to learn from uh men and women that are older who can offer some experience, offer some advice, celebrate and worship with them.
47:27
SPEAKER_02: They may be able to look at me when I'm in my adolescence.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: I know, I know, I know, brother.
47:32
SPEAKER_02: I love you, but let me tell you, you don't really know yet.
47:35
SPEAKER_02: Let me tell you about the Lord and what he's done in my life and that power of testimony.
47:41
SPEAKER_02: And so I just, I don't know, there may be, I don't think it may be, there's a lot more to that idea of entering his gates with Thanksgiving than simply approaching the Lord as this destination.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: There are there are some benchmarks along the way to be reminded of his protection, to engage with the elders.
48:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and I'm meaning that like in the the tightest two ways, older men teach younger men, older women teach younger women that require some intentionality from relationships in the body of Christ.
48:15
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: And like the thing that comes to mind is following Jesus is proactive, not reactive.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: Like thanksgiving every day, um, reading in the scriptures, having this biblical community is not a patch that you put on, a band-aid that you put on a cut when you have a problem, but something that constantly is building you up to look more like Jesus, so that you can, when the suffering and the trial comes, count it all joy as as James writes.
48:46
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's not you suffer, try to find or patch the Jesus card on it, but it's it's like I'm deep, I know, I dad Jesus.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, so therefore, when the when the suffering comes, this joy is just a byproduct of who Christ is and what he's done in life.
49:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh I think if I reflect on that question, it's that steadfast love part.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: Like that uh it's the said love of God.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: Like that, I'm so overwhelmed.
49:25
SPEAKER_02: Like I know me better than anybody else knows me.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: And I know I know where my brain can go.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: I know the insecurities that come up in me, I know the guilt that I carry from past failures that the Lord's forgiven me of, but I still carry it.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: Or um, but he's so faithful, he's so loyal.
49:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so I am man, I I embrace that, I celebrate that, and when I turn that over as far as living out the gospel, okay, well then what does that mean then that God is challenging me?
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SPEAKER_02: Love as I have loved you.
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SPEAKER_02: So what does that steadfast covenant loyal love really look like to people that uh are walking in sin, to people that are on the other side of the political aisle, that people to people that are on the other side of the social issue and are screaming at me.
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SPEAKER_02: Um what does that look like?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how how can I demonstrate Hesed loyal covenant-keeping love of the Father toward me to others?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um yeah, I think the best embodiment of that we've ever known is like to know Christ and Him crucified is that ultimate act of love that we are then called to go out into the world and imitate.
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SPEAKER_00: So very convicting and challenging.
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SPEAKER_02: Man, it is challenging, that's for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I tell you what, let's wrap it up from there.
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SPEAKER_02: I think uh uh Psalm 100 was never merely meant to be an event.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not the end, it is uh it's a renewed reframing or a framework for a life of worship, not just a song or a playlist or a one hour on a Sunday, but truthfully, in our life through suffering, through obedience, through community, yeah, like just worshiping the Lord uh because he is our king.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely as our king, he reigns, because he's our shepherd, because he's our shepherd, he protects and provides, and um and his love's never failed.
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SPEAKER_02: And maybe we learn to not fail others.
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SPEAKER_02: So amen.
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SPEAKER_02: Great.
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SPEAKER_02: Thanks, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Anything else before we wrap up?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I think I'm good.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, I did write down an Augustine quote.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, Psalm 100.
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SPEAKER_00: If it's Augustine, we need to hear it.
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SPEAKER_00: About Psalm 100, when I was reading a commentary yesterday, he says in his exposition on the Psalms, the verses in Psalm 100 are few, but big with great subjects.
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SPEAKER_00: May the seed bring forth within your hearts and the barn be prepared for the Lord's harvest.
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SPEAKER_02: That's beautiful imagery.
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SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
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SPEAKER_02: He's not one of the ancient, uh, strong ancient church fathers for nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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