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Ep. 84 - An Interview With Christopher R. Mihm · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: I know, I was gonna say real quick, I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: really excited because when I was listening to his podcast
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  Speaker 1: he was saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I think I told you this.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, oh, you know, sometimes I might get
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  Speaker 1: distracted and go down tangents, and I was like, boy,
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  Speaker 1: are you going to fit in on this podcast?
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  Speaker 3: So well?
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  Speaker 1: So well, goodness, Hello there, Welcome to episode eighty four Frightmares.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Austin Pructor, and back again for
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  Speaker 1: the second week in a row. Is my co host
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  Speaker 1: Corey Johnson. Hey with that Handchester who I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what that was.
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  Speaker 2: That was new? I like, keep that up. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta keep it fresh for the listeners. Like I
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  Speaker 1: said last week, at least I believe I said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I did. We have a special guest this week. He
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  Speaker 1: is a director of about I think I counted fifteen
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  Speaker 1: movies thus far. He's got one coming out in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, and he's got one in the camp or
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  Speaker 1: he's in pre production on another one. His name is
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  Speaker 1: Christopher R. Mem the creator of the Memo Verse, and
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  Speaker 1: you if you remember, it was like I think it
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  Speaker 1: was our Creature Future episode two too, So yeah, way
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  Speaker 1: back in like the twenties or thirties. We did Wheresquito
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  Speaker 1: Nazi Hunter, and at first when I watched it, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, this is terrible.
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  Speaker 2: What am I watching?
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  Speaker 4: And as we as we delve deeper into what this
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  Speaker 4: was during the show, we fell down this rabbit hole
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  Speaker 4: of just nineteen fifties era pulp, all made by the
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  Speaker 4: same one guy, and we were like, wait, what the
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  Speaker 4: fuck is going on? And then we figured out like,
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  Speaker 4: this dude has an entire cinematic universe that he's done
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  Speaker 4: basically completely on his own, written, directed and shot, filmed,
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  Speaker 4: funded everything, and we we kind of like put a
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  Speaker 4: pin in it, and we were like, yo, we gotta
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  Speaker 4: come back to this.
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  Speaker 3: And then we started watching more of these.
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  Speaker 4: Movies and we were like, oh my god, this is
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  Speaker 4: a fucking gold mine. This is this is a higher
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  Speaker 4: quality bad bend all over again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, I didn't, I guess I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I had no idea what it was when I
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  Speaker 1: watched Moresquito, because I was like, this is really bad.
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  Speaker 2: I don't what's going on. But then you realize, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that is the point.
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  Speaker 1: It's cheesy fifties sixties kind of drive in you know,
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  Speaker 1: movies from like the fifties and sixties era, And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that makes a lot more sense now
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  Speaker 1: that I know that going into this, This makes this
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  Speaker 1: movie about ten times.
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  Speaker 2: Batter as I did goes.
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  Speaker 4: It goes from a schlock to like, Okay, this is
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  Speaker 4: the artistic intention behind it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now I can sit back, understand it and enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But on first view.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like, You're like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 3: It's like, wait, this was made in twenty sixteen. What
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  Speaker 3: the fuck is going on?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Like I was, I thought maybe it was like a
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  Speaker 4: labeling bug or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because when you recommended this, my first thought was
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  Speaker 1: where skito Nazi hunters? Okay, it's in black and white? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what's the deal here? And it wasn't until we were
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  Speaker 1: reading trivia on it on that episode that you said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, director Christopher R. Mem has like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this Mima verse. And then we were like, wait, whoa
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  Speaker 1: what of classic fifties and sixties drive in sci fi
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  Speaker 1: style of movies? Yeah, put a pin in that we're
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  Speaker 1: coming back to it, and we are back now, and
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  Speaker 1: I've watched I have watched every single one of these
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  Speaker 1: besides Phantom the newest one, which is the Phantom Lake
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  Speaker 1: Kids in the Unseen Invasion. And I have to tell
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  Speaker 1: you I have loved every single one of them now
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  Speaker 1: that I know going into it what they are supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be makes a lot more sense.
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  Speaker 4: So and all of them are very very quick. I
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  Speaker 4: think Demon with the Atomic Brain is the longest one
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  Speaker 4: at one hundred minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I think it's one. It's that or no,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's this one. It's it's a Monster of Phantom Lake.
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  Speaker 1: It's like our thirty seven and that's pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: longest one. Usually they clock in about our three hour fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: So they're like you know, in and out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're just they're just like you said, you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of it's something you can put on and
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  Speaker 1: pay full attention to and have a great time or
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  Speaker 1: put on in the background and still have a good time.
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  Speaker 1: No matter how you watch these, you can absolutely have
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  Speaker 1: fun with them.
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  Speaker 4: And they're and they're very family friendly to an extent,
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  Speaker 4: Like there may be some things that like you won't
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  Speaker 4: want to have to explain to a young child, like
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  Speaker 4: what Nazis were or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 4: By and large, it's by and large it's a very
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  Speaker 4: okay thing to like have on with like smaller children around.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say about ninety percent of these are totally
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  Speaker 1: family friendly, and that makes them even better because if
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  Speaker 1: a kid can enjoy this, and as a thirty year
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  Speaker 1: old man can enjoy this, I mean, your target audience
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  Speaker 1: is huge.
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  Speaker 2: It's everyone.
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  Speaker 1: It's every single person, as opposed to you know, R
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  Speaker 1: rated movies which are seventeen and up and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean, this guy, this guy's been
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  Speaker 1: cranking out movies one every year since two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 1: And once we get him on the phone, I had
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  Speaker 1: that's my first question is how have you done this?
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  Speaker 2: Every year? One movie that is not massive?
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  Speaker 4: And not only is he cranking out one every year,
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  Speaker 4: but the production value stays steady. Yeah, it's like you're
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  Speaker 4: not ever seeing like a serious dip in quality unless
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  Speaker 4: it was like intentional.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because even Phantom like Mons or the Monster of
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  Speaker 1: Phantom like sorry from two thousand and six. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do the newer ones looks it's like a
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  Speaker 1: skoch better. I mean, yeah, a little bit because it's
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  Speaker 1: been fifteen years, but overall, I mean it's it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: much the same quality, so it's there's really no like.
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  Speaker 1: And I watched them in chronological order from two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and six all the way up to the last one,
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  Speaker 1: which was A Queen of Snakes, which is fucking wild.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, all these movies are wild. I mean, let's
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  Speaker 1: just let's name all of some here. We've got some
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  Speaker 1: of my favorites we have it came from another world.
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  Speaker 1: We have cave women on Mars, Destination outer Space, Attack
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  Speaker 1: of the Moon, Zombies, uh, the Giant Spider.
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  Speaker 3: Danny Johnson saves the world.
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  Speaker 1: Weresquito, which we've already talked about, Demon with the Atomic Brain, Queen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got these just awesome names, and these
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  Speaker 1: title cards are amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look at this one.
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  Speaker 1: This Demon with the Atomic Brain's got this eye with
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  Speaker 1: these like laser like shooting out of it, and these
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  Speaker 1: it's just dude, the freaking title cards are just like
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  Speaker 1: they draw you in. I think my favorite one, though,
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  Speaker 1: my favorite one is definitely Destinate Outer Space because it's
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  Speaker 1: got so much going on. You've got this guy in
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  Speaker 1: all black with like a taser in the background. You've
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  Speaker 1: got someone who's supposed to probably resemble Han Solo, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting han Solo vibes from her.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Josh Craig, He's balled.
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  Speaker 1: He's got this blue jumpsuit on two giant eyeball ahead monsters.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot happening here. It's so amazing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's so amazing.
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  Speaker 4: And the other thing that makes it extra amazing is
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  Speaker 4: because of because of the version of how he's shooting it,
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  Speaker 4: all of the costumes and effects are so practical it's
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  Speaker 4: not even funny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like cave women from Mars, they have these.
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  Speaker 4: Helmets that you can clearly tell are like cheeseball containers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that have just had like things cut out of him.
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  Speaker 4: And you're like, you know what I really appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you have to remember, if he's dating it to
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  Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, he's making you know it, he's making
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  Speaker 1: the monsters as accurate as he can back to the time,
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  Speaker 1: which is using you know, I mean, whatever you have,
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  Speaker 1: but it just.
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  Speaker 4: Adds that much more like hutspah to the to the thing,
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  Speaker 4: because it puts you in that time period.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, these are just so much fun. And
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  Speaker 1: now these are definitely more on the sci fi side
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  Speaker 1: of things, But you know we do all you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's this is a horror sci fi podcast. So and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them actually are you know, like Wheresketo
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  Speaker 1: Nazi Hunter? That was you know that was technically when
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  Speaker 1: it's say Where'sketo twenty sixteen? You know that one had
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  Speaker 1: horror and you know, horror sci fi war. So I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's why we reviewed that one, because yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: was a genre of horror in there. But nonetheless, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: horror and sci fi are just so close together to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just I have to just talk to this
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  Speaker 1: guy because I have so many questions for him. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited because.
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  Speaker 3: And we gotta let him know that we just absolutely
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  Speaker 3: respect the hustle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh dude, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know he's able to fund that because
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  Speaker 1: he uh cause after like I think it was Demon
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  Speaker 1: with the Atomic Brain. I was actually reading the credits
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  Speaker 1: because usually I don't, I'll just get up and go,
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  Speaker 1: you know, go bathroom or whatever. I was reading the
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  Speaker 1: credits and there's a there's a website he has where
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  Speaker 1: you can go. It's uh, we'll get to that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: once he gets on the phone, but you can go
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  Speaker 1: there look at all of his films and you can
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  Speaker 1: contribute to help, you know, like fund the movie. So
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  Speaker 1: I know that's how he's done it for I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how many, but probably a lot. You know, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: help contribute and you get your name and the credits,
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  Speaker 1: which is really cool. I'm gonna know, yeah, the new
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  Speaker 1: one that he's doing, I can't remember the name of it,
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  Speaker 1: but I've got it written down for when we get
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  Speaker 1: him on the phone, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: give my twenty five bucks, get my you know, put
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  Speaker 1: the Frightmares podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, and the credits. You know. So it's
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  Speaker 2: really cool how he is able to do this.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean still just still like shooting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: directing and editing at all and putting one together a
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  Speaker 1: year is like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know how it's done.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know, Like it's just him and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the small circle around him that he has helping him
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  Speaker 1: do this.
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  Speaker 4: It's not yeah shoot and so and I'll ask him
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  Speaker 4: this again. But I heard an interview with him where
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  Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, basically half of the interior sets
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  Speaker 4: are just like done in my unfinished basement, like I've
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  Speaker 4: built like a small sound stage down there.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing, so amazing.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's doing like everything around his house and like
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  Speaker 4: in his basement. So I want to know what the
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  Speaker 4: transition process is from like scene to scene. How much
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  Speaker 4: like what are your props looking like in your house?
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  Speaker 1: Seriously, because some of these, like the ones that are
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  Speaker 1: you know, featured mainly in outer Space, you can tell that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a very small room. But it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how many sets do you create for an average movie?
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  Speaker 1: Because unless he's just kind of reworking them and moving
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  Speaker 1: stuff around, either way, it's impressive. I gotta know how
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  Speaker 1: many typically how many sets he uses because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the times he'll use the woods, which that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the easiest.
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  Speaker 3: Thing to use because it's no set involved.
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  Speaker 1: You you know all that stuff. So I have to know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how many sets you use? And it's just
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  Speaker 1: so many questions, so many questions. Nonetheless, I'm very excited
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  Speaker 1: because and if you haven't, if you haven't seen any
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  Speaker 1: of these, for the love of God, please all of
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  Speaker 1: them besides three are on Amazon. The only three that
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  Speaker 1: aren't on Amazon are it came from Another World Destination,
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  Speaker 1: outer Space and then the newest one, the Phantom Lake
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  Speaker 1: Kids in the Unseen Invasion. I had to go to
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  Speaker 1: his website and go through Vimeo and rent the Why
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen Phantom Lake Kids in the Unseen Invasion yet,
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  Speaker 1: but I've rented the other two for like two bucks.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, whatever, I'll pay you the two dollars,
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  Speaker 1: No big deal. I'm just but I also want to
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  Speaker 1: ask him, like, why why aren't those on Amazon? Because
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: every every other every other one is so you can
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  Speaker 1: go watch them if you have Prime and you're in
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  Speaker 1: the US. I don't know if it's I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about outside of the US, but you can. You literally
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  Speaker 1: have access to twelve out of fifteen of these if
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  Speaker 1: you want to go watch them, Like right now, pause
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  Speaker 1: the episode, go watch all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Come back.
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  Speaker 1: Come back might take you, like, you know, a few
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  Speaker 1: days or a week, but you know, at an hour
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  Speaker 1: and something a piece, you can knock out. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I've knocked out three four in a day because like
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  Speaker 1: an hour and change. So I'm so excited. Anything else
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  Speaker 1: you want to say before we get in to this
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  Speaker 1: guy on.
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  Speaker 3: The phone, Let's fucking do it, all right, It's.
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  Speaker 2: A actually fun.
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  Speaker 1: We'll not fun fact, but uh, there's a song that's
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  Speaker 1: played in uh the Monster Phantom like it's called Rocking
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  Speaker 1: and Rolling, and I asked him if we could use
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  Speaker 1: it for the transition music between our little intro. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, I was like, can you send me
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  Speaker 1: that in an email? He's like, even better, you can
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  Speaker 1: download it from this website. And I was like done,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I played for me and you when we
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  Speaker 1: go and break because it's absolutely awesome. And uh, we
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  Speaker 1: will be right back with mister Christopher our mem.
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  Speaker 5: I've got to tell to tell hi, ho I tell it?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 5: Hello? Yeah, oh yeah a rockets rolling all the way rambling, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Hello, welcome back to episode eighty four frightmares.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Austin. That's my co host Corey over there.
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  Speaker 5: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: And on the phone we have director, writer, editor, producer.
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  Speaker 1: He does all the things, mister Christopher R. Mem alright, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing, Buden.
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to have you on the show because, like
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  Speaker 1: like we said on our little intro about I don't
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  Speaker 1: know forty episodes, fifty episodes ago, we did a creature
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  Speaker 1: feature episode and you know it was Corey's recommendation was
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  Speaker 1: where Ski Doo Nazi Hunter? And I'm like, what the
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  Speaker 1: what have you stumbled upon? And I didn't get it
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  Speaker 1: at first because you know, we had never heard of
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  Speaker 1: you or your movie, so watching it, I'm like, this
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  Speaker 1: is I don't understand what is going on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we could not make heads or tails of what
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  Speaker 4: was going on, and we were reading the trivia is.
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  Speaker 5: My favorite reaction always.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we were reading trivia on the show when we
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  Speaker 1: were doing it, and Corey came across this and it said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is part of the Mima verse. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, what the hell is the memo verse?
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  Speaker 4: And this and that ended up completely derailing our episode
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  Speaker 4: for like.
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  Speaker 2: The next fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 4: We we ended up doing like a semi deep dive,
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  Speaker 4: like who the fuck is this guy?
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  Speaker 3: What is going on? And as we.
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  Speaker 4: Delve deeper, we were like, oh, okay, now I get
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  Speaker 4: what's going on. We went back and rewatched the movie
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  Speaker 4: likely and we came back and we were like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this makes a whole lot more sense now, and we
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  Speaker 4: have a much greater appreciation for what's going on on
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  Speaker 4: the screen because the first time you're just like what.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, okay, look like I was like, this
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  Speaker 1: is made in twenty sixteen, it's in black and white,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind it's kind of cheesy. I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: is this the artistic direction? And then you know, you
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  Speaker 1: find out, oh, it's it's made after like fifties and
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  Speaker 1: sixties sci fi kind of drive in movies, and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's like this makes so much more sense. And then
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  Speaker 1: you know, we find out you've got like fifteen movies
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, this guy's cranking one out a year.
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  Speaker 2: How is this? How are you doing this? I'm just
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 5: It's sheer force of will at this point. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's funny. It's like it's like it's become madness, right,
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  Speaker 5: it's gone beyond just like I want to make a
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  Speaker 5: cheesy movie too. I can't stop myself, you know. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: It's it's really just I don't know. It started off
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  Speaker 5: as this. Two thousand and six, I released a movie
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  Speaker 5: called The Monster of Phantom Lake, which was just I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to make a easy monster movie because I love
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  Speaker 5: those movies and and I had so much fun doing it,
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  Speaker 5: and we got a really good response. So I made
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  Speaker 5: another one and then another one, and then it just
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  Speaker 5: became the thing I do, and it just it It's
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: been really I mean, it's been really fun and it
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: keeps me going. So it was just this weird thing
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: that that snowball that it was just like I always
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: really wanted to make a movie. I didn't really kind
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: of care what. I just wanted to make a movie.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I've been obsessed with the movie since I was little,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: and I finally made one and it was getting good reactions,
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: so I'm like, well, I should make more. People clearly
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: this is what they want, and and I don't know,
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: it was just it became a weird thing. It became
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: and it's it's taken on a life of its own,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: and that's that's been I think, probably for me, the
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: most fun I'm having with it is that it has
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: taken on a life of its own. And I do
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: come across a lot of people who were like, so
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I was flipped at the Amazon and I came across
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: this movie called Wharesquito Nazi Hunter, which seems to be
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: the one title that really grabs people. Yeah, and then
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: it goes from there and it becomes I'm proud of
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: the fact that it's become like you guys said, like
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: a deep dove. It becomes a rabbit hole. You see
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: one movie and you're like, I don't know what the
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: hell this fucking thing is, but I'm gonna look deeper,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: and you look deeper, and you're like, Jesus Christ, how
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: deep does this go?
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: And and for me, it's not even how deep does
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: this go? But it's how deep does this go? And
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: how does it still stay like the same quality all
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: the way through? Like it's it doesn't all the movies
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: like are at a baseline.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Just straight up enjoyable.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Like the quality just skates through all the way.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: The the time limit on them is almost nothing.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: It's like an hour, three hour nine. I mean, it's
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: just there's.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Such low time commitment movies that you see.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Well, you know those old movies were you know, And
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: that's the thing is like the first, the first I
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: don't know, three or four movies I made, you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: they're they're they're over an hour and a half. They're
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: more you know, like a Monster Family seven minutes or something,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: which is more of a modern film length, right at
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: least a non blockbuster modern film length. And I got
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: a lot of shit for it from reviewers because those
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: old B movies were you know, short, cheap things that
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: they threw in as literally the second movie in a
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: you know, drive in double feature that was just there
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: to hold space for the teenagers to you know, get
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: it on in their cars at the drivers at that point,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: because they'd already gotten drunk, you know, with their friends,
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: and now they'd gone off to their their cars and
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: you know, they weren't paying attention, so they needed just
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: you know, good hour hour ten to kill and that's
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: that's what they were. So I got a lot of
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: like I said, I got a lot of crap for
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: the length of them being too long. And the funny
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: thing is is once I started scaling it back to
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: the classic length of those B movies, which is usually
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: you know, between sixty five and eighty minutes tops, I
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: felt like the movies got better, It became more authentic,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: and reviews got better. So I mean that was that
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: was that was by design, but not at first. At first.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I just I wrote a movie, and I was like, well,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: everything I wrote is going to end up in the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: final film, whether it belongs there or not, because I
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: wrote it and I shot it. So it's happening. And
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: so I think just some of that too, is just
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: becoming a better editor.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean you you literally so you write
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: all these you direct them, you edit them. I mean,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that's that's impressive to do all that for fifteen movies.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Like you said, I know it keeps you busy, but
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I mean it's got to keep you busy because that's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that is a lot of work to.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Come up with the whole thing.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And so I got I guess I'll just ask this
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: question since we're talking about this, what is your favorite
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: part of the creative process? Is it writing, directing, is
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: it is it the costumes? Or like, I gotta know
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: what your favorite part is of the movie process.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Well, it's funny. I you know, when I first started,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I really didn't have any clue what the hell I
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: was doing. Uh, and so everything just weirdly like it
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: fell into place and then suddenly I had a movie.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: So my experience early on was very much like you know, winging.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: And now I have it down to a process, right,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: so I know how long it takes me roughly to
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: write a script. And if you've seen some of my
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: movies and hurt some of my dialogue. You know, it
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: doesn't take that long, but you know, I know, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: then the pre production process and then the filming process
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: and the editing process, and I have everything down to
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: just like a process that I follow and I know
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: how long it's gonna be. And honestly, it's funny, like
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I I like writing, but it's it's always different with
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: each movie. Some movies just seem some of the scripts
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: just sort of came out. Like I made a movie
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: called The Giant Spider, and that one I just it
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: just sort of there was no trouble with it. It just
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: came out and it was it was quick and easy,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: and everything seemed to flow and it just made sense.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: It almost showed up fully formed in my head or something.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: But then there's other ones that are just a slog
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: to get through because I'm just like, what do I
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: do next? What happens next? Oh, this is a good idea,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: but now I gotta go back and change stuff.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: It's just the writing process can be fun but also frustrating.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: So it's not my favorite, but I don't hate it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Pre Production is always kind of nebulous because it's like
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: often that's when I turn it over to other people
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: who are helping me to like make monster costumes or
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: come up with costumes or hair props or whatever. So
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: that becomes more of a from my point standpoint, more
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: of like a management thing where it's like, Okay, are
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: you doing this? Are you doing this? So it's it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: not exactly fun, but it's not difficult, but it's just yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Then you get into shooting, which I think is actually
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: the hardest part, right because you actually have to there's
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: so much work that goes into shooting, and then you
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: also have to deal with other people, which isn't always fun,
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: and you know, it's just it can be. It can
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: be really difficult. It's rewarding, but it's probably my least
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: favorite part of actually doing it, simply because it's it
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: seems like ten times more work than all the rest.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: And I think it's just because there are so many
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: moving parts. It's like hurting cats, and it just it
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: becomes difficult. Once I get into the editing process and
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: I know I have a movie in the can, don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: need to shoot anything anymore. I think that's when I
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: really feel like I'm happiest, so because that's when I
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: feel like all that work and all the things that
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: were nebulous and weird about the whole process come together
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: and it's no longer a concept. It's a movie coming together.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: You know, you can start seeing the fruits of all
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: the things. You can see the ideas, you can see
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: the disappointments and all the things that you wish you
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: would have done differently, but accepting the things that it is.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: And so for me, when i'm editing, it can be tedious,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: but it's also it's nice because then it's after you've
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: edited say a minute of footage or a scene or whatever,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: when you can really see, Okay, this is the movie
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: as it is, this is what it's going to look like,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: this is how it's going to feel, this is how
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: the music is going to be. And for me, that's
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: when I feel like, okay, I'm making a movie. At
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: the end of this process, I will have me a movie.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: And so that's probably my favorite thing. And then of
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: course once it's done, it's like it's out there and
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: that's awesome, but that's really short lived. That that part.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: You know, it's like like taking a cool road trip,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: right and now it's it's over. It's great that you
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: got where you had to go. But it's over now,
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: so you got to drive home, and so it's it's just,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: you know, it's it's not it's awesome to do it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: It's good to do you know. I love doing screenings
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: and events. But after it's done, it's like it's out
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: there and it's out of my hands to a certain extent,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: and so I just I start going on what's next,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: you know, and start getting into that just and that's
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I think that drag is one of the things I'm
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: always chasing, you know, just like that sort of the
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: thrill of creating something, however ridiculous it may be. But
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: it's it's just fun. And so, like I said, once
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: it's out, it's kind of that process is over and
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I have to start over or else, you know, you
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: kind of lose the you lose the I don't know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: the excitement of it. Because it's fun to watch people
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: watch it. It's fun to discuss it. It's fun to,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: like I said, go to screenings and you know, see
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: how people react and talking about it. But but the
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: creation of it is over right.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Well, and circling circling back to the creative side. You
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: said that shooting was kind of difficult. I had listened
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: to an interview with you where you would uh they
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: were talking about interior shots, and you said that a
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: lot of your interior shots at one point were like
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: shot out of your half finished basement and.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that. How how difficult.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Is it to.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Set so many scenes like that? Like is that still
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: a thing that happens? And if so, like what is
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: your prompt story?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I mean like, if you have so many scenes in
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a movie, I mean, are you constantly switching them out?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Are you kind of just reworking a set kind of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: over and over? Because That's what I'm curious about, because
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I know some of these some of these movies have
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: just so many different sets, and.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You're like, that's got to be a lot of work
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to do for real.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I think part of the part of the plus
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: of me being the guy who's also writing these movies
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: is as I'm writing, I can think about things I
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: have access to, right, which has made my life a
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: heck of a lot easier just being able to know that, Okay, well,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: if I need this thing and I don't have access
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: to it, I could probably build something Like I made
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: a movie called Attack of the Moon Zombies that takes
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: place entirely on a lunar base, and I knowing I
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: have this this space in my house that has basically
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: become the studio. I wrote the script and worked it
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: all around the idea of being able to build these sets.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: And they're simplistic and easy to do, uh and definitely
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: not up to code, but they don't need to be.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: You know. It's like it's like movie props. You see
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: movie props from a movie you really like, and then
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: when you finally see it up closer, you're like, God,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: that looks cheap as shit, And that's only because you
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: know it only needs to last to shoot the damn thing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: It doesn't need to be you know, usable, It doesn't
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: need to actually support weight or whatever. It just needs
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: to look good. And so it's it's it's it's funny.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Like like I said, I'll write scripts that that are
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: built around things I know I can build or have
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: access to, or simple stuff like and you know where sketo,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: And some of the times I'll build, I'll write something
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: knowing that like I had say, half a set standing
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: from the movie before it that I could just redress
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: and add on to and make it, you know, something else.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: But you know, early on everything we did was was
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: places that I knew I had access to, and then
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: we started building sets, and then that became too much,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: where we were building too many sets, and I felt
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: like I had to get back to using natural locations.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: And now it's a mix of the two. But again
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: it's it's all about pre planning a lot of this
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: stuff to make my life easier. Like for my first movie,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: The Monster fimil like, it's all shot outside in the
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: in the woods or by a lake, which is very
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: easy to come by. I didn't have to think about
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: any of that. As soon as we found a place
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: where we could shoot, we just shot the whole thing there.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Like I said, with Moon Zombies, was like, wow, we're
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: just gonna have to build a crep ton of sets,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: and we did, and it took a long time to
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: do it all. But again they're cheap sets. A lot
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: of it was built so that we could tear down
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: part of one and rebuild it into something that looks
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: similar enough to be on the same moon base, and
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: and we'd just go from there. And you know, it's
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: it's probably more work than it sometimes needs to be,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: but we have no money to use or you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: and we're all none of us are really set builders
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: per se, other than the the shit we've made up
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: along the way that works for us. Uh, and yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: we've just gone from there.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just crazy that you have a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: base when you're like, all right, this is what we're
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: gonna do.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, how like how big is the basement?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Because some of these sets, you know, you're like, okay,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: this seems like you know, like the little was the
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: diner from wheresqito? Was that that was in your basement?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah? Wow? I mean see that's the thing though,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: That's the beauty of you know, the magic of movies,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: I guess. Uh. You know, how like when you go
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: somewhere and you've seen it on a movie or even
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: you see like I don't know, you got to see
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: a baseball game or some something, or a football game
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: or something in an actual stadium. I mean you realize,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: like this place seems a lot smaller than it looks
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: on TV. There's something about the magic of movies that
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: can create this illusion of bigness that that serves me well.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, the room itself is probably fifteen by twenty five.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: I mean it's not huge and it takes up you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: it's just it's it's basically the room where my furnace is.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I'm in Minnesota, and you know we have a nice
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: furnace to keep us warm during these cold months. And
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: the funny thing is is like it's like this just
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: big concrete, you know, room that really wasn't getting any
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: use and was just being used for storage. And so
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: I throw all that stuff in the garage, which I
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: can now no longer put cars in. My wife loved that,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: and we just turned it into a studio. And the
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: funny thing is is like the first time we really
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: really did it was for my fourth movie, just called
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Terror from Beneath the Earth. Quick story, probably won't be
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: that quick, but I like to talk in your stuff,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: go for it, go for it, seriously, this is happening it. Yeah,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: So for my fourth movie, I was going to do
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: something other than what I did, but it kept like
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: all the ideas we had kept falling through, mostly because
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I was going to trying to work with one of
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: the the actors who was in a bunch of my
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: movies in the beginning, and his wife was was pregnant
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: at the time, and it just it wasn't going to
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: work out timing wise, so I started getting too late
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: in the year to shoot something outside unless I wanted
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: to do it in the winter, which I really didn't,
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: and even when I did later, when I made a
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: movie called Guns of the Apocalypse, I really wish I
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: hadn't because that sucked. But I had to come up
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: with an idea because I wanted to keep this one
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: movie a year thing going. It's always been important to
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: me that I wanted to do this. So I came
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: up with this idea to make this movie called Terror
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: from Beneath the Earth about a man sized bat monster
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: in a cave. And I didn't have access to an
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: actual cave, but I thought, you know what, if I
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: just take the unfinished storage room and move stuff around,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: I could paper mache a cave into my basement, which
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: when I think back to it, it's probably the craziest
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: thing I ever thought. I'm gonna do it. I mean,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: who the hell thinks I'm just gonna paper macheve my
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: entire basement. And I remember bringing it up to my
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: wife at the time because I was running ideas by her,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: and she was like, I guess you're just gonna run
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: out of time, and I'm like, no, no, no, I came
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: up with the perfect idea this year. She's like, what
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: what do we gonna do? You know, she's an actress
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: and she likes being a part of this, but not
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: as much as I do. I don't know that she
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: loves it being our life all the time, but she
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: likes participating and she's an actor and she wants to
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: be in stuff. So I said, look, I have this idea.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I want to do a movie about a bat monster
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: in a cave. And she goes, where the hell are
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: you going to get a cave? I said, here's the
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: brilliant idea. We're going to paper mache the basement into
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: a cave. And it was just a beat. She looked
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: at me and she's like, no, you're not. I was like, no, no, no, no, listen, listen,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: there's more to it. And she's like what. I'm like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: you are one of the leads and she's like, all right,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I'm in. I was like, sweet, So I paper machee
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: the basement into a cave. And funny thing is, of course,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: that was the year that my my furnace died twice.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: So it felt like an actual cave.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just it was funny because like the
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: first guy you know, came over to fix it came
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: and of course, you know, I'm like, okay, I'm sure
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: he gets this a lot. And it's always like shit,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: I just said, now before you go downstairs. You know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: in the back of his head, he's like, ah, son
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: of a big dungeon, a sex wing, it's something, right,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: I'm like, no, before you go downstairs, just so you're
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: aware it's a cave. And he's like what. I'm like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: you know, I just I make these movies and you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: the B movies, and I've paper macheaded my basement into
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: a cave, so you know, just so you're not totally
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: surprised when when you see it, he's like okay. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: he went down there, and the whole time he was
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: just like freaked out, I swear to God, and I
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: was just sort of down there with him, and he
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: was just he seemed like he got it done really
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: fast and got the hell out of there as fast.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: And a week later it broke again, so I don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: think he actually did the job. And so they sent
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: out another guy and the same thing. I'm like, so
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: before you go down there. He's like, Okay, what I
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: tell him? And he's like, oh, that's cool. What I
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: gotta see this. So he goes down there and I'm
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: telling him all about it. He spends all this time
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: fixing it, asking all these questions, and he's like, this
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: is so cool. He's like, when is this coming out?
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: And I'm like probably next year. He's like, I'm gonna
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: be there. Can I give you my email address or something?
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: I want to go. He showed up to the premiere.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: It was awesome, nice, but yeah, that was that was
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: of course the year that that had to happen. But
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: to get to your point of the question, you asked
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: about the size of the place. One of my favorite
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: things that I've ever his favorite comments I ever got
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: about that was, like I said, it's it's it's very
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: much an illusion of size that you can pull off
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: pretty easily because of movies. That's just it's the magic
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: of it. For that same movie, Terrorform Beneath Earth, one
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: of the stars of the movie brought his dad to
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: the premiere and he was telling his dad all about it. Oh, yeah,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: he built this cave in his basement. It's totally crazy.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: It looked super fake but also really cool and you'll
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: love it. So after the movie, the guy comes out
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: and he turns to the the guy who's in the movie.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: His dad turns to him and says, Okay, you said
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: that guy shot that in his basement, right, How the
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: fuck big is this guy's basement? And he's like, you
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: should see it. It's not that big, he's like, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: it looked huge, and I'm like, that's that's the magic
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Man that was.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Gonna actually be.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: One of my questions was about that movie because I saw,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you know, like the kve behind it. I was like,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's paper mache, but I have no idea,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and you answer that question it's just paper machee.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, good grief.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: How how long did that take to do just that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: one little the little set that you have there?
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Uh, well, that one was was the entire room except
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: for the except for the furnace, So that ended up.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, it took I don't know, probably a good
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: two weeks do the whole thing, and then you had
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: to paint it and there's all this stuff that went
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: into it. But it was I mean, it was fun
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: to do. You know, my kids helping and they just
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: thought it was crazy, right, uh and just fun. It's
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: like we're paper we're shaying a little basement. I mean.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: That's the funny thing about that room too, now, is
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: like when you go in there, there are all these
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: remnants of all these different movies in there, like the
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: history of all the films, where if you look up
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: in the rafters, you still see little bits of paper mache, right,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: you see different colors on the floor that we painted
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: it from. Okay, this color is from Moorsquito, this color
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: is from Dealing with the Atomic Brain. And it's just
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: all these crazy things where you can you can point
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: out sort of the history of all the crazy shit
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: we've done down there, based on what's on the wall
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: or the you know, the paint drip over there or
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: this thing here, and it Yeah, it's it's kind of insane.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: And we have a pretty Like you asked about the
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: prop shelf and all that stuff, there's there's a lot
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: of props and and and stuff. I end up as
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: far as like props and stuff. Though if there's something
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: that I don't know if I'll necessarily use again, I
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: often will will auction it off, auction things off for
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: fans of the films to help sort of make up
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: the budget when we do, like the World premieres will
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: always do like silent auctions. And there's there's a handful
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: of fans that like have pretty extensive collections of stuff
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: from from the films that they've you know, picked up
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: at at events or whatever. That, like I said, has
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: helped offset a lot of the costs to make it
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: so that I'm not losing money by making these movies.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm totally jealous because after what because
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I over the past couple of weeks, I've just been
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I've watched them from Phantom of the Monster Fantom like
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: all the way up to the last one I watched
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: was Queen of Snakes. I haven't watched the new new
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: one from this year, the Phantom, like Kids in the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I think the Unseen Evasion.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: And now I'm.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Jealous because I could have had props from those movies.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Like now I'm like super jealous. And now I guess
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I'll have to just keep up with uh.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Because this is arguably like it it has stepped into.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: The realm of like cult status for me.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's one of those things that
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: like the part of the beauty of it is that
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: it's it's all almost one full cohesive project, like.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, because he's like, I mean, he's got real
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you know. As I was watching them like back to
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: back to back, you know, over the past couple of weeks,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you can see like there's references to other movies, and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: then the same characters come back, like the Deputies. I mean,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the Deputies are my my favorite. Little people that come
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: back throughout the movies are hilarious. I think it's one
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: of them is Spen and the other one is oh yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: yeah Spend and U Yeah, they're they're freaking hilarious. So
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I just love the fact that you really, you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: he reference you referenced just pretty much any chance you can, like, oh,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Phantom, like university or or stuff like that.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: It's it's actually really cool that it all kind of
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: ties together. Now, I do want to know kind of
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: what started all of this, So why don't we go
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: back to, like, you know, like what got you into
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: because obviously, you know, I know, you have to be
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: a fan of like creature features and old sci fi movies,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: So like, you know, what, what was your first experience
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: with that, and then how did that transition you into
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: wanting to, you know, do this pretty much full time.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Well, see what's funny is you know, I was born
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: in the late seventies, right, and my dad was born
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: in the late forties, and growing up, my dad was
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: a big sci fi horror guy. And so he grew
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: up in a small town in Minnesota. And this is
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: like I'm going really back into the family history here,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: but yeah, he grew up in small town Minnesota, and
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: he loved the movies. He loved going to the movies.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: And the town he grew up and was really small,
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: but it did have like a little cheap main street
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: theater that he would sneak off to and see movies.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: But because it was such a small market, they would
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: get a lot of the crappy B movies. So he'd
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: go see you know, shitty monster movies, you know, American
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: International Pictures kind of stuff, and he sort of became
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: obsessed with it. And you know, he was a college
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: in the sixth and you know, had his you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: got married and had kids in the seventies, and so
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: growing up there was always this sort of like my
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: dad was always watching movies we couldn't watch with him necessarily,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: and I became a little you know interested in that,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: which of course stung me and you know, really badly
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: when I was he was watching The Exorcist and I
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: shouldn't have been, and he didn't know it, and it
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: messed me up for far too long. But you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: he would share the sort of cheesy horror movies and
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: monster movies that he grew up on with with my
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: brothers and I, and I think I was more interested
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: in just I was more into it than not. And
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: of course, growing up in the eighties and stuff, I
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: loved you know, eighties movies and you know, like Ghostbusters
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: is my favorite movie of all time, and so there
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: was a lot of sort of overlap and became very
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: sort of obsessed with the movies. And we'd go to
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: the drive in all the time when I was a kid,
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: because it was the end days of the local drive
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: in that we could go to all the time. I
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: grew up in Minneapolis, and there was one on the
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: outskirts in the suburbs that you know, we went and
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: saw like really cool, you know, just just a ton
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: of movies. We saw et there we saw you know,
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: every pretty much every Friday, we'd go to the drive
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: in the summer. And so I just loved movies and
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I really wanted to make my own movie. I was
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: very much obsessed with that for as long as I
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: can remember, and like anytime I could have access to
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: like a video camera, I was just you know, the
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: big and I'm talking like the shoulder mounted BHS bazooka cam.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: You know. Yeah, it was it was always fun to
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: just sort of play with that. And then as I
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: got older and decided to you know, got into it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: But what happened was is what what drove me to
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: start making a movie? You start making movies to really
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: sort of push me in that direction, is it's it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: two things. That actually goes back to my dad again.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: In two thousand, sadly, he passed away from cancer and
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: he was only fifty one, and obviously that affects a
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: guy who's at the time, I was like twenty four,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: and I was just you know, really sort of made
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: me realize that, Okay, I had this dream of making
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: a movie, I should probably do it, right, I need
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: to do it. Life is short, damn it. I need
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: to make a movie, and it was always just in
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: the back of my head, I really want to do
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: this thing, And of course, in two thousand I didn't
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: do it. I just other things going on. But then
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: in two thousand and four, I'm married at this point,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: and I have two step kids, and one of my
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: stepkids was diagnosed with cancer, and I was like getting
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: dark Jesus. But at that point, I think it was like,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: you know what life really is short. I'm like an
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: overweight guy in my late twenties, you know, creeping up
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: on thirty here, and I have a healthy step child
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: who's now not healthy and is go undergoing cancer. And
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: it's like I felt surrounded by I was like, God,
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: damn it, I'm gonna do something that I've always wanted
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: to do because I have to, because dang it. If
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: if my dad can die of it, my kid can
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: get sick, I'm next. You know. That was the feeling.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: It was just like I'm next. I'm nonhealthy one, I'm
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna die soon, so I need to get
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: on this. So one of the things that we kind
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: of did, which is kind of interesting about this is
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: is during my daughter's treatments, is that my stepson and
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: I and at the time my son Elliott, who was two.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: I involved them all in the sort of making of
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: this movie, and it became a bit of a family
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: project during a rather difficult time. And like my stepdaughter
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: when she was home and feeling well, would help us
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: with We created the monster costume for the monster family
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: lake and all this stuff, and I just it kept
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: me very busy. But it was also like I was
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: driven because I was very much like I'm gonna die,
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: I need to do this now, and I just kind
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: of did it. And part of the reason why I
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: decided to make this cheesy monster movie was as a
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: tribute to my dad, because he loved those movies and
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: I very much associated those types of movies with my dad,
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: and I was like, you know, I would love to
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: make my own cheesy monster movie. What the hell, let's
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: do it. And then we just did it. And then
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: my my daughter her finished her treatments and we did
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: the premiere and it was amazing, and from then on
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: it was just like, this is something I want to do.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: I've finally done it. I don't want to do anything else.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: There's nothing else I really want to do. And for
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: the record. This is back in two thousand and four.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: She was diagnosed. She finished her chemo in two thousand
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: and five. She is now perfectly healthy and doing well
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: and living her best life. So all good on.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: That's good to hear.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Seriously, that's got to be I mean, that's got to
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: be terribly scary to go through for someone at.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: That, you know, that age, I mean, I mean, holy cow.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: And it really yeah, and it really it really changes
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: just your perspective on things, you know what I mean.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: It's like losing your parents is obviously rough, it very hard,
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: and of course I still miss my dad's day. But
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: there's something weirdly natural about all living your parents, right,
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: that's the way it's supposed to go. But then when
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: you have a kid, you know, thrust into this horrible
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: disease that could potentially take her life, it really fucks
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: with you. It really messes up to your outlook on things,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: but also your perspective on just like sort of you
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: know how short and fragile life really is, and if
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: you don't do the things you always want to do,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: what the hell is the point? You know?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of what propelled you into making these
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: movies now did you have like the memo verse in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: mind or is that something that kind of just came
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: later because you found something that you really like doing
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and you just wanted to keep going down that path.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: Well, it kind of evolved because originally when I decided,
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: you know, okay, I'm making this movie, damn, and I
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: started writing The Monster Family, like, like I said, as
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: a tribute to my dad. Then also because I love
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: cheesy monster movies, and I was like, you know, this
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: might be something I could actually do. I could buy
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: a handle this and maybe it'll be good and maybe
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: it'll be terrible, but that'll make it good. You know.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: It was like approaching it a little from that angle.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: But then I remember I had a discussion with Josh Craig,
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: who played Professor Jackson in the movie. We talked about
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: I was like, you know, I don't know if I'll
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: ever make another movie. This may be the only movie
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: I ever made, but it's something I want to do.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: So maybe we make the Monster Finom, Like we get
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: a thousand DVDs made, we hold a premiere, which was
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: always the goal. We hold a premiere and we show
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: it to our friends and family, and maybe we sell
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: a couple of them, and then five years we'll be
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: sitting on the couch being like, what are we gonna
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: do with those eight hundred DVDs still sitting in the garage,
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: you know, like that would be the end of it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: But then we released it and we got a lot
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: of positive press and a bunch of film festivals were
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: picking it up, and I sold through that first thousand
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: in like I don't know, six months. Wow for someone
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: who did not know what they were doing. And this
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: is sort of earlier days of the internet, really before
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: it started catching on as an e commerce thing, and
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: it was just like, wow, we're doing really well. We
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: should probably make another one. Let's make another one, And
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: so we decided to make this other one, which is
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: called It Came from Another World. And I decided the time,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, well, the Monster Family did really well.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: At least it's getting a lot of good press. Why
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: don't we take all the things people love about that
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: movie and turn them up to eleven? That always works,
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: And of course I picked out all the things that
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: annoyed people more, not realizing that like people laughing at
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: things or enjoying things wasn't necessarily because they love them.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: So much as it was like that sort of awkward
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: humor of something like The Office, right where it's just
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: like the cringe factors what you're laughing at, not necessarily
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: the actual jokes. So I misinterpreted a lot and made
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: this movie. It came from the world, and it's not
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: my best work, admittedly, but I realized it was like, well, okay,
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: so it's got to be a sequel sort of, but
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: it's got to stand alone because I want people to
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: be able to see either one and not be lost,
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: which explains and this is this is spoilers to anyone
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: who has never seen them, but you know, the movie's
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: been out for fifteen years. I think I'm okay with that.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're good.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: You know, the Canoe Cops basically die in The Monster
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: fantom Lake, but then suddenly they're inexplicably back. And it
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: came from another world, which you know, it was again
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: it was standalone, and but it was also tied in
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: because it took that Professor Jackson care from character from
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: The Monster fani Lake put him in a new adventure.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: And then I made Cave Women on Mars, which was
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: another you know, extension of that of like, let's take
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: some of these characters and and and link them together,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: and it kind of just organically became this thing that
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: as I made more and more movies, they became more
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: and more connected. And then it became a bit of
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: a personal challenge to see how much I could make
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: something stand alone but also throwing tons of easter eggs
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: for people who've seen them all that wouldn't be so
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: blatant as to make someone who has no idea what
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: it is be completely confused by it. But then also
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: for the people who do get it, they might laugh
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: at it, and the person there with that has never
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: seen is like, I don't get it. Why are you laughing?
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Like well, because you know in the other forget it,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: you'd have to see them.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: That's funny, because I'll just rattle off my top five
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: real quick, because I think it's you might I don't
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: know because you said it came from Another World is
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: not one of your best, But I personally love that
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: one and my number one of all time, Demon with
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the Atomic Brain, love that one. I just couldn't get
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: enough of that movie. And the number two is actually
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: it came from Another World. I really enjoyed that. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the monster in that and then Cave on Mars.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Cave Cave Woman.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Cave Women on Mars is my number two, and where
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Mosquito is my number one, and Cave.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Win for Mars.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Like I was, I was just cracking up the entire movie.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: It was such a treat because like it was one
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: of those movies where like I expected everything that was
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: gonna happen.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I know this is gonna happen.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: But it did it in such like a fresh way,
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: like the the banter between the captain and the the compute,
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: the computer. It was like the working working. I was
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: dying every time. It never got old, even though the
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: joke happened like four or five times. I was like,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with this is fantastic.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really I really love that one because yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I like Josh Craig. I liked uh, what was his name, Daniel,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't pronounce his last name, but Lieutenant
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Elliott in the movie.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: He was great.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Dan Shervin, Sirvin. Okay, the jay is an h it's
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: a weird Norwegian thing. I don't know.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Cave Women on Mars number three and then
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: we got Attack on the Moon Zombies and then Late
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: No double Feature. That's my top five out of all
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the ones I've seen, which is everyone besides the newest one.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I thought I thought it came
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: from another world.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: Was great.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I mean also, I do have a question about that
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: one and Destination outer Space. Those are the only two
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: that I could not find. Well, I guess in the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: newest one on Amazon. Is there a reason behind why
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: those aren't on Amazon?
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: Well, so Amazon Prime has been really strange, right. They
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: when they started the sort of prime service, they thought
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: of themselves, Amazon Prime thought of itself as a competitor
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: for YouTube, right, and so they let kind of anybody
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: put anything they wanted on their service. But then they
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: started to change and realized that their greatest competition was
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: actually more like Netflix and other streaming services. But what
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: happened was is then they realized they had all these
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: low budget indie films and stuff on their service, and
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: they didn't want to just like purge them all, right,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: so they started changing their like fee structure of what
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: they'll pay you from month to month, like cutting it
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: in half and half and half like it used to be,
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: like fifteen cents a minute, right, or fifteen cents an hour,
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: which doesn't sound like a lot, but now it's a
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: cent like literally one or two cents an hour, which
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: is just ridiculous, right, And like like for instance, and
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: I always complain about them because they pissed me off.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: But like in December, for example, which is always the
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: best month I have for streaming numbers because people are
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: on breaks, they stay at home, they watch movies, it's
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: cold out, you know, they get together with family whatever.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: Last December I streamed over like my films on Amazon,
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: streamed more than two million minutes tens of thousands of
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: views of my films, and they paid me like two
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: hundred and forty bucks. Wow. Yeah, so they they kind
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: of they get you. But what happened was is so
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: they started doing this thing where they started to slowly
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: purge independent, independent and low budget films from their service.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: And they're based on these sort of vague quote unquote
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: community standards of you know, quality, uh, And they started
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: dropping my movies. And the first one that went was
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: it came from another world. And I don't know if
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: it was because it just had a lower star rating
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: or what. I'm sure it's based on like how many
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: people started it and and finished it or started it
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: and abandoned it. They have their reasons, I don't know.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: And then they dropped Destination out Space as well, which
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: luckily those are the only two, but they also started
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: then dropping them from like the UK, and then like
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: I had a bunch in Germany and they dropped all those.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, they've been slowly sort of culling my stuff.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: But I think, and I hope knock on wood, that
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: it's it's sort of balanced out now where it's like
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: I get there's a you know, like I said, more
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: than two million minutes of streaming time. I think at
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: this point now it's like, okay, well the stuff that's
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: on there, people watch enough, and they watch from beginning
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: to end, so maybe some of them are safe, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I'm sure eventually they'll all be dropped or just sort
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: of the best to the best that appeal to the
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: most mainstream of people. Like the Giant Spider is my
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: most you know, popular, but you know, it's it's the
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: most accessible to people who maybe not aren't big into
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: cheesy old movies. They get they get it. I don't
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: have to tell them what it's about it's right there
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: end the title. Yeah, yeah, I mean so they just
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: kind of they just kind of unceremoniously dropped them. And
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: so now it's the waiting game of like when they'll
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: they'll finally drop the rest.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Well you can imagine my surprise when I, you know,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: was going through all these and I was like, oh cool,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: this one's on there and this one and this one.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is great, but another one yeah,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: and then another one, and then I was like, these
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: two aren't here. That's so odd.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was just something that they
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: wouldn't accept it, but that's that's so odd that they
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: were just like these two done. Everything else can stay,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: but these two, because those are some of my Like
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I said, they came from Another World was one of
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: my favorite, and even Destination out of Space it's another
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: great one.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is like like an.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Epics, like you know, almost like Star Wars Tale of
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: flying through space and following is that's that's still Captain Jackson, right, Yeah. Yeah,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: So you're following him through, you know, and then there's
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: the whole cliffhanger at the end. You're like, ah, I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: need more like, so it's crazy.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: That I called Destination out of Space Edwards Star Wars.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, I can get that.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: Well it's funny too, because, like you know, you're you're like, oh,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: I love it came in the world, whereas some people
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: hate it. But then again, you know, you can't fight
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: with people's tastes and what they enjoy. You know, you can't.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: You can't overanalyze why people like the things they do
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: or why they hate the thing to do. I mean,
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: I some people that just hate everything I do, but
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: people love everything I do. Some people are like, well
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: I like this one more, I don't like this one
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: so much. And it's always all over the map, you know.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: I had one random guy come up to me at
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: an event and just flat out was like, I think
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: it peaked it, it came from another world, and it's
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: like really like a dozen more movies after that, You're like, nah,
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: just never gets any better than that. Well, fine, okay
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: for you, that's cool. But this is the same guy
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: who also freaked me out because I was at this
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: convention and he just stopped by and he's like, oh
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: my god, oh my god. I'm like what and he's
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: like you made it came from the world. And I'm like, yeah,
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: yeah I did. And he's like, let me do let
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: me do something. It's gonna freak you up. I gotta
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: do it. Go Okay, he starts quoting the movie from
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: beginning to end. Oh boy, like verbatim. He got through
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: the entire like first scene, and I'm like, okay, I
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: get it. You're You've officially freaked me out. But that's
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: really cool. Can I sell you on something else?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I got like fifteen other movies. Man, you got it,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like something else? Come on?
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: But yes, that was that was That was weird, but
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: also it was kind of like, oh, that's kind of awesome.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: Soone memorized my movie. I didn't have to.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't ask them to do this. He took it
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: upon himself. All right, dude, h well, I think what
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I what I really liked about it, of course, is
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Josh Craig. I I absolutely love every movie he's in,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and uh, I have to ask them. So I'm on
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: the on the topic of him the pauses that he does.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Was that something that he came up with or you did?
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Because I love when he's just kind of doing the uh,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: what's his name from start tarking, Oh, William shot, he's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: kind of doing like a Shatner almost, like where he
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: kind of pauses and like the whole one, he's like
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: until next time and pauses for like ten seconds in
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: the camera cut back and forth.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: It's a very very pregnant pause.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Like, I love it.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: The awkwardness just barely seeps in every time, and then
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: it cuts back and goes back to normal.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: So was that something in the script or did he
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: just kind of do that himself?
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah? When we when I when I wrote the Monster
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: fam like, I did imagine him as a Shatner esque character,
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: and a lot of that. A lot of those pauses
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: are written into the script with lots of ellipses. And
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: Josh and I talked about it early on about you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: how far do we take this? Uh and and and
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: I think the consensus between he and I was take
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: it just a little farther than it feels like it
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: would be natural.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: And I and I love that because it's it's every time.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: And what's great about it is the pause is just
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: slightly different lengthd every time.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it catches you off guard everything. How long
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: are we going to pause for this? Time. Okay, it's
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: not that long.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: And also the how they say computer, is that something
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: that they just did in like the fifties and sixties
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: or is that just another artistical choice that you're just like,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it computer.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: That was that was. That was something I decided to
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: do because when you watch all those old movies, you know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: we say the word robot, right, robot, but a lot
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: of those old things they'd say robot.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I heard that, Yeah, I heard that, And I think
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: there was destination out of space when they said robit
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: an yeah.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: Like like I think early on when when these sort
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: of newer words start becoming introduced into our language, and
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: it's usually technology base where people aren't sure how to
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: say things, until it kind of becomes I don't know,
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: like the word data. You know, I don't hear data
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: as much robit robot, right, it became it becomes sort
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: of like eventually accepted as to how things are said. Well,
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: I thought it'd be really funny, because you know, a
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: computer isn't really was was still science fiction to most
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: people in the fifties and sixties, even though they existed,
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: but it was still more science fiction than not. I
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: thought well, wouldn't be funny if we said computer wrong
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: and just said computer. And the idea was that you
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: put the emphasis in the wrong syllable, and you don't
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: you don't quite say it right. You say it more
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: like how it reads computer. And and like I still
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: have some actors who just cannot say it that way,
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: like their brain just takes over and I say computer,
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: it's like no computer, and it's like you got to
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: break it down into two parts. It's comp yitter computer
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: and and so it's now become just just a thing.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: And that's that's another thing, is there's there's stuff like
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: that throughout the movies that have become little things that
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: that are sort of tell tale of my movies, like
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: saying computer. You don't say computer. See I'm not even
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: doing it that. I can't say comp computer, damn it computer,
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: you know computer? Or like someone always gets slapped in
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: my movies. Always always there's the stupid thing with the
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: flashlights where people always turn the flashlights onto their own face.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I noticed that the first time and Destination out of
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Space when Josh Craig just like flips it on in
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: his face like three or four times, I'm like, hell,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: does this guy doing well?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: And it just it became a thing. It's like, and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: then it became there even became an internal like like
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: question about it with the actors of just like how
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: many times is the right times? Is it one two
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: or is it one two three? And I'm like, well,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: initially it started off as just one two, but Josh
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: Craig in Destination Our Space did it one two three,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: So technically they're both right. But if I were to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: make it, you know, it's just like all this discussion
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: because Jim Norgard in House of Ghosts like did it
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: three times? And I was like, I'm just gonna leave it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: It's it works both ways.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I like that that you have.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: You almost have like these inside jokes that you've kind
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: of created throughout your Now now that I know the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: whole computer thing, I was like, mate, you know maybe
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: they said that in fifties and sixties driveings. With the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: fact that you've kind of just thrown that in there
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: as your own thing makes me like that even more
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: because it's something that you just made up.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: You're like, this is how we're saying it. That's a yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: that's awesome.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: I've made people do it ever since. But like I said,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: there's some actress you just can't do and we do
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: the best we can. But once you start doing it
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: and you start to saying computer, it's it gets flipped
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: in your head. I mean, I've heard it so many times.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: Like I said, I was having literally just having trouble
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: a little bit ago saying computer computer. I even had
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: to pause a little bit there to make sure I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: did it right.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I was gonna. Oh yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Now, speaking of all your movies as kind of a whole,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I've noticed a lot of at least I think there
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: are references like I know you mentioned Kessel Run in
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: one of them, in Destination Outer Space, and I know
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: you said ludicrous Speed in another movie. So I feel
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: like there's there's a lot of references to other movies
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: in your movies as well, which which I'm assuming that
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: you obviously do that intentionally.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: Right. Oh yeah, I'm a huge nerd. Like I said,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: I love I love movies, and and uh, often when
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: I'm writing, if something just seems like in my head
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: a reference to you know, Star Wars or Star Trek
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: or or Ghostbusters like it. Like, for instance, Ghostbusters, there's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: a line from Ghostbusters in every single movie I've ever made.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: Some are more obvious than others, but I take a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: line from there somewhere in every movie just to do
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: a little reference here and there of a line or
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: even even a visual aesthetic or something that references stuff
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: that that I like. And some of it is is
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: is super super weird and small, and like, you know,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: I've had people who are just like, Okay, I think
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: this is from this movie. Was it? It's like, yeah,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, it was.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Now here's Here's two. I actually have a question about
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: speaking of references because in The Giant Spider there was
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: a missus Nesbit mentioned. Now I don't know if that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: was a Toy Story reference, but.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: That's what it was. Oh so then boom okay.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: And then also in the same movie, I saw a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: lone Pine twin Pine, and I'm assuming that's back to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the future.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'll see Okay.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: So because I was like missus Nesbit, I was like, Okay,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: that could just be a random coincidence, but I was like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I immediately thought toy Story so well.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: And on top of that, you know that that missus
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Nesbitt thing is from when buzz is the Tea Party
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: and losing his mind. And if you look at it,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: you know they're having a little tea party and he's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: got a little hat on, just like just like a
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: buzz Lightyear did with the monster found like doll. Yeah,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: I mean that was little stuff like that was just
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: like you know, if you if you're a movie buff,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: you should be able to pick up on a lot
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: of I mean, some of it's, like I said, someone,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: it's blatant. Some of it is really not.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of movie buffs, well, I know you said
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Ghostbusters is one of your favorites, but like, uh, what
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: a kind of you know, sci fi horror? Like, what
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: are some of your favorite movies that you could just
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: put on it anytime? Like I need to watch this
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: right now because this is one of my favorites.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: Honestly. I mean, I'm a huge Star Wars fan. I'll
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: take anything Star Wars. I don't care. I'm I won't
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: take any any sides on any debate about new stuff
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: versus old stuff. If there's a goddamn lightsaber in.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: It, I love that perfect. That's exactly how I am
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: in the same way.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: So that's awesome.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like just you know, argue all you want,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: I don't care. There's a lightsaber that's awesome.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: As an addendum to that, are there any like directors
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: that really maybe aren't even you know, your favorite movies,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: but are there any directors that you kind of look
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: up to or that stand out to you in any
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: special fashion?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean there's there's there's there's different ones from
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: different eras. If we're going back to the fifties, if
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: you're talking about like directors I really like from back then.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: One of my fairs is bert I Gordon, who made
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: like the amazing Colossal Man Earth Versus the Spider. He
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: made a lot of like sci fi horror movies back
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: in the fifties and sixties. And I really like him
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: partially too, because he's from the Midwest, Like he's from
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: Wisconsin and actually moved to Minneapolis first before going out
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: to Hollywood, and he was kind of more of an
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: independent filmmaker back then than the studio is sort of
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: the way the studio system was back then, and I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: kind of respect that just because he was doing his
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: own damn thing and people were like, Hey, let's throw
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: some money at this guy, and yet he was still
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: making these sort of like cheesy movies with like really
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: good special effects for the era because he was kind
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: of a special effects guy and I like that. I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: like his style. But then you get into, you know,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: the stuff I grew up on, and you have like Spielberg.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: I really like John Carpenter.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, my mass, John Carpenter is my favorite director of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: all time.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: Well, see what I like about John Carpenter too, is
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: like I feel like, even when the studios were trying
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: to sort of hem him, hem him in to sort of,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know, skirt the Hollywood line, to follow the formulas,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: he doesn't. He's like, no, I'm gonna do my own
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: damn thing. You can throw money at me, but I'm
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: still gonna do my own. Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: I reference Prince of Darkness as that because it's such
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: a far cry away from everything else he ever did,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: and you could very much tell that he was like,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: I'm doing.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: This for me.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of my favorite Carpenters as Prince
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: of Darkness. It's just you don't see stuff like that anymore.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: Well, and see like as a as a as a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: sci fi nerd, They Live is one of my favorite
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: movies ever.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: It's so good.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I don't hear that enough from people? Is that they
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: like that movie. No one talks about that enough. So
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: that's that's an amazing answer.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: I love the subversive element of it. It's the same
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: reason why I really like the movie Starship Troopers. It's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: a terrible B movie, right, but it has this really
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: sub subversive angle to it that people don't generally catch.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: They don't pick up on that. I like the sort
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: of like the the I don't know there's there's there's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: satire in there that I feel like people can't see
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: past the pretty dumb turble actors and the stupid giant bugs.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: You know. It's the same thing with They Live. It's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: like it's not it's not the greatest movie ever made.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: And Roddy Rddy Piper is not great. He's amazing in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: that right and the fight where he's trying to get
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: at Keith David to put on the damn glasses or
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: is it is it David Keith Keith David. God, I'm
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: having a moment Keith David see when they fight in
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: the sort of the the the Alley is still the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: best damn things ever committed to film.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I could agree with that.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: It just goes on and on and it's so ridiculous
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: and there's all these like false endings and then it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: starts again and it's so it's just it's funny, violent
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: and just like I don't know, it's just it works
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: and it's over, just like put on a fucking pair
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: of glasses, would you put them on?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: And you like undertone of the commercial government and stuff
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: like that, you know they're yeah, like it's just it's
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: got like such an underlying like interesting message that I said,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: you don't really see stuff like that anymore, No.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: And to just like the the one liners in it
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: are still the funny. The funny thing about that is
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: like the one letters in that aren't great, Like they're
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: great because they're so stupid half the time.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Right, the one where is that the one I'm trying
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: to think where it's like I came here to do
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: like chew bubble gum and kick ass.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's almost a great line, but it's really not.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: But it's so awesome.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Carpenter, they live all right, that's uh some
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: solid answers. Now, I know you you know you like
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: SI find you did you like the eighties?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Is there is there a decade that you prefer to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: watch over anything else, Like, do you find yourself watching
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: more of the fifties and sixties stuff or more of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: like eighties stuff, because for me it's eighties. I just
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I can't get enough of the eighties.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, I'm I'm all over the place.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: I like a lot of modern stuff. You know, I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: admit I love comic book movies. I'm a huge Like
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm a huge nerd. I get I get
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: sucked into the uh, you know, the the Blockbusters. I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: love a good movie that I don't care if it's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: totally manipulating me. I love it if it can manipulate
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: manipulate me just right, I don't care. I'm not much
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: of a movie snob, and I do love revisiting the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: old sort of fifties and sixties stuff. I do really
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: like a lot of stuff from all over the place.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: If we're talking like sci fi, I feel like seventies
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: sci fi is like a very specific thing in the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: early eighties where you get into this or the obviously
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Star Wars comes from there, but you get into this,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know, there's this weird there's this weird look
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: and feel to seventies sci fi that I really like.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: And it's almost like the Battlestar Galactica effect of just
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: like and too. It's like the lenses they use and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: the weird like like glints off lights and stuff that
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: they just don't do anymore. That just betrays the seventies
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: whenever you see it that I like, And I think
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: that's just from growing up with a lot of that stuff,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: you know, wearing out the Flashcoordon VHS. But if you
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: getting to horror, I mean, obviously, I think the eighties
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: is kind of the pinnacle of horror, right and we're
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: just talking horror. There's so much that comes from that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: that decade of things now that people are like, you know,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: trying to recreate or or they're there. I mean, think
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: of how many icons came out of the eighties, you know,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: of like recognizable horror characters like the Freddy's and Jason's
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: of the world.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: Well, and speaking of that, do you have a favorite
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: horror icon or subsequently, do you have you know, just
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: a favorite all around movie monster or movie monster archetype.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: You know, I think there there'd be two sort of
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: two things that we're talking about sort of iconic horror characters, right,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: I was always much more of a nightmare and Elm
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: Street guy. I like, I always just I think probably
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: because there is that fantastical element of the dream world
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: and all that, and I just think Freddy's I don't know, creepy, right,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: but also has personality in a way that some of
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: the other ones don't. He talks, Yeah, he talks, right,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: who just you know shows up just.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: So he gets he gets really into that character. The
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: more you watch him, you're like, all right, you really.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: Having right exactly and that comes through and I I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: like that about it, where it's like it's it's a
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: he has personality, and that's that's more for me, the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: more pure sort of horror icon But one of my
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: favorite all time horror movies again has a bit of
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: a sci fi band and that's Alien.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's that tracks.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And you know what I first, that was
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: like one of the first horror movies I ever saw
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: all the way through. Like I said, I accidentally watched
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: some of the The Exorcists and regretted that for a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: long time. But uh, it's probably only like seven years old.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Wait when you saw Alien or the Exorcist.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: No, the Exorcist, but I did see Alien for the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: first time when I was probably only about seven years old.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's funny that you say that.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you off, because that is
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: literally the first horror movie I saw at about eight
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: years old, so that is really funny. And I watched
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Alien and Aliens back to back, so continue I just
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to throw that in there, because that's wild.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: I just I was like at like a sleepover at
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: a friend's house, right and his mom was like watching
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: like went to the you know, the Blockbuster, the local
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: video store, and was like, I got a movie for
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: us to watch. I don't think she had any fucking
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: clue what the hell she was thinking us a lot,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: and we watched it and I was like, it scared
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: the shit out of me. But at the same time,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: There's like spaceships, but it's scary.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: That is so wild because that's almost exactly what happened
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: to me. I was at a friend's house, and I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: don't think she went to Blockbusters. They just had it
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: and she's like, here, I'm gonna put on a movie
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: for you guys. I'm like, oh yeah, cool, And we
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: watched the first one and for some reason she put
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: on the next one and I was like, I can't.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't fucking sleep for the rest
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: of my life. So that is hilarious that we had
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: such a similar experience with their first horror movie. Yeah,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: that's probably why I didn't watch horror movies untill again
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: until I was about seventeen, because I grew up in
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: a Christian household, so I was traumatized for for years
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: after watching them. Back to Oh yeah, it was it
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: was crazy. That's that's that's freaking hilarious. I'm still trying
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: to get over that. What are we talking about? Oh
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: my god, I got so sidetracked. All right, So why
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: don't we go back to some of your movies because
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: there is a few more questions I do have, Primarily,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, we said, you know, you made Debate. Are
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the k from Terforumerneath the Earth out of paper mache?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: What do you typically make the monsters out of? Like
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Monster of Phantom Lake, Like, he looked like he was
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: paper mache, but he also came out of water, so
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: there's no way that's possible.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: So it's funny even the monsters of my movie have
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: evolved and the monster fanm Lake. You know. I created
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: it with my kids basically, and what it was is
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: we just took an outfit that fit my step son,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: who was the guy who's actually played all my monsters, right,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: and we took some clothes, old clothes of his that
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: that roughly fit him, and we cut up a bunch
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: of garbage bags and we taped them, you know, from
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: from the bottom up, with all these like basically leafiness
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: coming off. And then the head was a mop bucket
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: and the eyes were like these like little soup strainers,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: and then we just spray painted everything. And the funny
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: thing is like that costume, which still is like a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: lot of people's favorite monster of anything I've ever done,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: cost me like thirty five bucks. I just I literally
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: went to the dollar store and just bought a dollar
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: mop bucket and a bunch of cheap ass garbage bags
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: and some duct tape, and that was kind of it.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: The most expensive thing on that entire thing were those strainers,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: because I had to buy they were like two dollars apiece. Uh,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: And then like spray paint. That was it. That was
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: the whole thing.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: And I was talking about this before we got on air.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: I was I was praising all the monsters that I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: saw because they you can you can tell there is
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: like love and effort put into them, but you can
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: also see the I did this myself type of thing.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it not only does it feel.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: Like very period correct, but it has just that level
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: of jankiness to where you're like, this is really fun
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: and it's you can like feel the tenseness that the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: monster's supposed to be giving off, but it's never like
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: a stressful situation. It's always in good fun it feels
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: like and I really appreciate that from all the creatures.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I mean there's so many creatures too that are just
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: so I love them all well.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: And it's funny because, like I said, the first one
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: was just like again, thinking back, it was like, I'm
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: gonna make this one movie, so I'm not gonna go
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: crazy because I don't have any money, so can we
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: do a cheap ass movie? And you know, he made
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: this this monster and it was just so ridiculous, and
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: it was it was patterned and based a little on
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: the creature from the Haunted Sea, which is like a
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: not great Corman movie, but I wanted to have, you know,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: just like it's an algae monster, so it's like, what
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: the hell's algae monster look like? But then also I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: wanted those big dumb bug eyes, right, and that to me,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: those big goofy eyes like scream fifties monster to me.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: And so that was one of the things that it
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: was a motif we decided to sort of keep, you know,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: throughout all the films, is that I like big bug
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: eyed monsters, and I think it just it just fits
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: with the aesthetic. But then also it's become a signature
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: of the monsters. And then after making that first one
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: the first two, I met a guy named Mitch Gonzalez
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: actually at a convention here locally, who just was like, hey,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: I do months and like LATEX masks and stuff if
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: you ever want my help. And I was like, oh, yeah, sure, okay, weirdo,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: you know, and he's like, no, no, no, I'll take your card,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: I'll send you some stuff. And then he started emailing
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: me all these pictures of stuff he did, and I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: was like, holy crap, this guy's good. But of course
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: at that time I was like, well, I can't afford
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: this guy. But then I got to know him and
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: I realized that no, he was just like me. He
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: just wanted to make movies and monsters, and you know,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: he has this skill, and he lives in Minnesota and wants,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: you know, wants to do this kind of thing and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: this was the best way to do it. And then
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: we became good friends, and then he started. The first
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: true monster he designed was the Moon Zombies and Attack
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: of the Moon Zombies. Yeah, and from there became a parent.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: I was like, dude, this guy needs to make all
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: my monsters. I'm never going to be able to make
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: anything remotely as cool as the stuff he's doing. And
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: he gets it, you know, he understands what I'm going for.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: And we have this great like shorthand now when we
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: developed monster, Like, if I'm coming with an idea and
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: I've got a script coming together, I'll be like, hey,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: here's what I'm thinking, this is what I need. I'll
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: describe it for him, and then literally within half an
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: hour to an hour, he's texting me sketches. Wow, and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: we'll go We'll just go back and forth until we're
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: both sort of happy with what we're going for. And
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: then you know, I just let him go. Like for
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: the ware Squito design, you know, he went through a
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: couple you know, the original sketches ended up changing, and
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: then eventually when he got down to it and he
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: started building it, he was like, I don't like what
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: I'm doing. I need to do something that's more half man,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: half bug. And that's when the design came together, and
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: it really came together. It's one of my favorite things
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: he's done. And it's just creepy and weird, and you know,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: it's a little it's a little fifties right, because it's
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: still a giant Mosquito man. But there's also parts of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: like the Jeff Goldblum fly right where there is some
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: grossness to it where it's like there's some detail in
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: there that looks a little more I don't know, just
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: stomach turning then you would normally get from some of
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: those movies, and we see it up at least those
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: those classic movies, and we see it up close too.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: There's just there's like veins and stuff and there it's
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: just like, oh, that's kind of nasty.
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  Speaker 1: I just love the idea of a half man half
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: where like you know, Mosquito, I thought that was just hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's why I picked it originally because it
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: was like it said where Squito and I was like, okay,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: So I.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: Was like, half man, half mosquito, or is this going to.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: Turn into a giant mosquito? And I was like, all right,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: I gotta check it out. And I worked watched like
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: the first ten minutes before I sent it to Austin,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, this is the one we
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: got to pick for this creature feature, just because it's
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: so just out of left field as compared to you know,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: we were doing like Anaconda, we were doing the Relic.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: You know, it was stuff that people you know, knew,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: and then we fell into this and it was just
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: such a batshit.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Thing to happen.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: So what would you say that the I know you
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: said it's one of your favorite, but would you say
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: that the Wheresqitou monster is your Like what's your what's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: your favorite monster that you have created?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta know.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, uh, if we're talking to the ones Mitch
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: is done, I think that the where Skeito is probably
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: one of the coolest things he's ever done. Like, I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: really feel like that one turned out even better than
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: I could have ever imagined, and I think it works
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: really well in the movie. I still think from the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: ones I've done, I mean, I really like the Monster
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: fanom like. I think it's the one that that people
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: still like. I mean people I sell T shirts on
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: tea public and that's still my best seller is just pictures.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: It's just literally a T shirt with the monster coming
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: out of the water, and that's the one that that
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: is just I think ridiculous enough, and it really at
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: first glance, I think gives you exactly an idea of
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: what I do, and that's part of being I mean,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: it's my first movie, so I use it as my
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: logo for a lot of things, and there's a lot
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: of that built into there. But that's definitely one of
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: the things that that I've created that I'm proud of.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: I also like the back monster from Terror from Medeth
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: the Earth. It's my most ridiculous.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just this giant bat. I saw.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: When I saw it for the first time, I was like, Okay,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: these movies are just exponentially getting better and better. I
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, the giant bat is great.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: So he started making them. You said, Attack the Moon zombies.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: Right, So the the bat was my creation. And you
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: can always tell kind of by the fact that it
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: looks like cardboard because it is whereas you know, Mitch,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: Mitch does full on like Latex you know, masks and
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: he does you know, he sculpts them, and I'm just like, well,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: I got an old street hockey helmet and I'll just
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: put the ears on it that I'll do.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, So now talking about this entire
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: you know, the memo verse, I mean, what what is
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: the what is the future? I know, I know based
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: on your website that I found, which is funny because
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't find the website until I actually read the
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: credits on like one of the last movies I saw,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that would have been.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: Great credits of every movie. I know.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I didn't even I didn't
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: wreck it. I didn't notice it until like Queen of Snakes,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: when I was like, oh cool, Oh that's how I
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: can watch it came from another world and destination our space.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: So I've rented those on Vimeo. But you know, I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: know we have at least according to the website, You've
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: got the Christmas or the Holiday Special coming out this year,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: and then The Beast Walks among Us for next year,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: and then Fantomly Kids and The Day of the Earth
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Abruptly Almost Ended, which is a fantastic title. But I mean,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many more ideas?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: I love it?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, that is the longest, most ridiculous title,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: but it's so great, So I mean, going forward, I mean,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: how many more ideas you have? I mean, are you
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: just pretty much gonna do this until you're like I'm done?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: Well, see, I don't know. I mean, it's it's funny.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: It's like it always sort of feels like from movie
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: to movie, right, It's always feels like this one's the
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: last one, this is it, this is all there is,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: And of course I'm like, no, but I still have
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: to do this one and I haven't done this kind
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: and I haven't done that. And you know, it's like
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: one of the things that I've I've had a lot
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: of fun with doing this is that each movie does
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: kind of hit a different trope with each movie. You know,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: you have the Monster Family Lake, which is like a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: lake monster movie. It came from the world, is is
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: kind of a red scare alien invasion kind of thing, right,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: It's very much paranoia and sort of you know, someone
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: trying to take over your mind. And then you do
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: Caven on Mars, which is like that classic you know,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: women who've never known the true love of a man
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: must learn it from Earth, you know that kind of thing.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: Then you had you know, you had the the Cave movie,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: and then you had the Giant Bug movie, and then
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: you had the Where the Werewolf movie basically with Where'skeito?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: Then you had the the the nineteen fifties Muppet movie
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: with Danny Johnson's World. Still one of my weirdest movies,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: I think, but it's it's still it's one of the
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: more popular ones, so it works for me. But then
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: you have Demon with the Talbert. I mean, it's just
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: every movie is me trying a different trope. That's why
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: you had Guns of the Apocalypse, which is a western
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: but also also a post apocalyptic movie, but it's also
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: a spaghetti western. I mean, it's just like all these
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: things I'd love to do sort of my take on
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: and you know, lately, like The Family Kids, the Unseen Invasion,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: which is the one that we ended up making during
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: the pandemic, Quarantine earlier last year, you know, was it's
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: basically an Avan Costello movie. You know, it's it's it's
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: like three stooges. I mean, it's it's just goofy stupidness
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: for the sake of goofy stupidness. And it was really
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: fun to make, you know, after doing sort of heavier
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: stuff with you know, Guns of the Apocalypse is a
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: little heavier and Queens Snakes. It's not the funniest movie
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: in the world, you know, to do something that was
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: just comedy, you know, that was meant to be dumb,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: but in a fun funny way. But even then, like
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: The Beast Walks among Us was supposed to come out
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: last year, but that got postponed with everything going on
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: in the world, and so that's coming out actually this
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: year at some point. Because it's done. It's just sort
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: of sitting there. But that's a bigger movie where it's
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: like it had a one of the biggest casts of
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: any movie I've done, and I really want to do
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: like live events with that one, whereas The Unseen Invasion
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: is like seven people and it's like my kids. It's
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: so it was like I, I, you know, that one
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: was okay to do you know, release digitally and not
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: worry about sort of the live events. But with the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: beast walks among us, I really do want to hopefully
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: be able to release that back in the theater. And
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: one way or another, it's coming out this year. I
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: can't push it another year and and this next one
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: again because I'm still not comfortable, like you know, working
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: with actors and stuff, and it's just you know, I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: can't I can't handle the liability should someone gets sick.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: So you know, I live with my kids and they're
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: fun to work with and we're having these great ideas
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: of stuff, and again they become kind of the Abbot
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: Costello films of the Universal Monster movies, you know, when
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: it becomes a lot more self referential and just comedic,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: and you know, they're fun. I really like making them
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: partially because they're more for the people. These ones are
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: more for the people who've seen them all. So the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: figure I've done fifteen, well sixteen movies, now I feel
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: like I can spend a little time being a little
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: extra self indulgent, but also out of necessity of just
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: like well, I got to use the tools I have
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: access to, and my kids really like making movies with me,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: So I guess we'll make more after that. I mean,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: once things calm down and we can get out there again.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: I mean I have literally a list of tropes I
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: haven't hit yet, so.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: This is exciting. Let me go back to I kind
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: of want to go back to Queen of Snakes. As
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: you mentioned that, now, that was the first full color
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: movie that you had done. Are you gonna are they
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what was the reason behind that. Are
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: you going to continue to do more color? Are you
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: going to go back to the black and white? I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: was kind of curious. I was like, whoa, this one's
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: an all color to the whole movie.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: I was like, holy cow, well, I uh, you know,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: that wasn't originally the plan to release it in color.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: And I've done stuff with color, but again, trying to
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: make these retro movies. I really like black and white.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: I love black and white photography. I love old movies
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: that are shot really competently in black and white. There's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: something to it that is just to me, very magical,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: and I really like it. I've played around with color,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: like with Wresqito. You know, it's like every time you
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: see blood, it's red, right, it's kind of gimmicky. That
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: was the point Nemo with Demo, with the demo with
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: the Atomic Brain, there's a little color in there, but
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: again it's just it's it's hints of it what I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: was doing. And then I guess at the beginning of
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: Guns of the Apocalypse, you know, it starts in color,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: but then the apocalypse happens and everything's in black and
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: white because the world falls apart.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: I did like that. I noticed that. I was like, oh, wait,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: this one's color. I was just kidding, No, no, it's black
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: and white. Interesting, okay.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: And so with Queen of Snakes, originally it was going
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: to be in black and white, but then that one
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: we shot at the same time as we were shooting
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: Guns of the Apocalypse, because I had these two scripts
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: that I wrote, and I was like, you know, I'm
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: gonna shoot them both and I'll just see which one
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: comes together, you know when, and I'll release them at
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: different times. And my wife did pretty much all the
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: the costuming or most ninety percent of the costuming and
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: like the set design and all that stuff for that,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: and she did this really great job, like thinking about
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: even the colors of things in a way that one
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: wouldn't necessarily have to in a black and white movie, right,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: And so I started realizing as I was editing, and
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, everything about the way she coordinated
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: all this stuff works really well in color. Like even
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: the there's the there's you know, the the mother character
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: who's a little she's louder and crazy and she's got
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: you know, the blanket she has is even like multi colored,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: and her daughter, who she's sort of beaten into submission
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: with her abusive emotional abusiveness. You know, all she wore
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: was like beige's and grays and just like you know,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: browns and like crappy colors that sort of come through
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: in her sort of emotional thing. And so so Steph,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: my wife, obviously thought about these things enough that I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: was like, you know, again, it wouldn't have mattered in
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: black and white, but it just works in color. And
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: then I started manipulating it and playing with it, and
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: I was like, you know, if I were to ever
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: released something in color, I would want it to look
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: like old sort of mid sixties, like technic color, or
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: just like, you know, there's there's this look to the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: color of the movies of the sixties, right, right, that
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: just doesn't look natural. It looks oversaturated, it looks skin
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: tones are weird, like they're not. No one is that pink,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: you know? And I was like, you know, if I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: can manipulate this enough to look like that, maybe i'll
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: release this in color. Plus. Once I started messing around
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: and I found a place where I liked it. Once
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: I saw the Queen of Snakes who wears all white
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: but has all that green, and I realized, I was like,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: you know the way that pops, I have to release
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: this in color.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: I really like how contained that one is because it's
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: essentially like almost almost one bedroom the entire movie. And
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I really I just think you worked with the space well.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: And also I have to say that the old Lading
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: screaming was so unsettling. I was like, Oh, this is
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: really creeping me out. Like the mother when she starts
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: screaming at that one point.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she's just losing her damnam.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is really kind of creeping me
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: out a bit. I was like I usually don't get
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: creeped out that easy, but I was like, man, that
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: that is an unsettling scream.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: Well, because I you know, and that was funny. It's
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: funny to bring that up because when we when we
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: when we film stuff, we record audio there, but then
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: also afterwards, so I have other tracks to use should
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: something not record writer. You know, there's a lot of
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: background noise sometimes, and that The queen of snakes was
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: my wife, Stepanie. She we were recording the scream, and
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: the way we did it is I recorded it separately
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: and I put the microphone in one corner of a
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: room and had her just in the other corner making
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: these noises and we were laughing our asses off through
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: the whole thing. Because she was like, she stopped and
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: start lipsy. This is ridiculous. I'm like, hey, nothing but
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: adventures with me, right, come on do it.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: I thought it worked great.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: It kind of genuinely creeped me out a bit because
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: she would just she would just I think why it
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: creeped me out because she was literally letting it all
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: out and I was like, oh God, that's horrifying. But
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: I actually really enjoyed that one because, like I said,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: it was it was kind of interesting. It was in
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: color and like the green really did pop, and I
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: loved the whole you know. She found that necklace and
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: then turned into this queen who was like controlling her.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: It was it was a.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Pretty fun movie. I really liked that one. So why
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: don't you go ahead and tell everyone where they can
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: find all these movies.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: I know you have a website.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what it is, but tell everyone
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: where you can find these movies. I know a lot
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: of them are on Amazon. But you can also contribute
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: to future movies as well, so which you very much
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: should do. Yes, I'm going to contribute to the newest
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: one because I just found out about this. I would
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: have been contributing for years and I had known this
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: was a thing.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: So well, you can find me on my website. It's
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  Speaker 5: for my production company. It's Sainteuphoria dot com, which is
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  Speaker 5: most people can't seem to spell s A I N
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  Speaker 5: T e U, P h O R I A dot com.
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  Speaker 5: But I always tell people, if you can't remember that,
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  Speaker 5: go to the Giant Spider dot com and you'll get there. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: So from there you can you can learn about a
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  Speaker 5: whole bunch about everything going on. I have a you know,
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  Speaker 5: news on there for stuff going on. To keep up
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  Speaker 5: with it, there's a newsletter you can sign up for.
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  Speaker 5: There's a podcast thing I do every month where I
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  Speaker 5: just talk about what's going on, and there's some other
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  Speaker 5: extra stuff that's thrown thrown in there. There's a you
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  Speaker 5: can contribute to whatever projects I'm working on right now.
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  Speaker 5: You can can contribute to the Mimi Verse Holiday Special,
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  Speaker 5: which is basically my Mimi Verse version of the Charlie
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  Speaker 5: Brown Christmas Special. Also, there's a lot of Star Wars
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  Speaker 5: Holiday special in there. Yeah, but then there's you know
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  Speaker 5: the new one the Family Kids in the Day the
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  Speaker 5: Earth Abruptly Almost Ended, which I love that title. The
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  Speaker 5: first time I typed it out because I was trying
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  Speaker 5: to think of something along the lines of like the
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  Speaker 5: day the Earth stood still, I was like the day
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  Speaker 5: of the Earth. And then I just I typed it
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  Speaker 5: out and I laughed out loud at it, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't care what this is. This is my title.
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  Speaker 5: But you can contribute to that, and you get your
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  Speaker 5: you know, you get your name in the credits, and
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  Speaker 5: and there's levels. I've always made it kept it really simple.
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  Speaker 5: It's like twenty bucks gets your name in the credits,
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  Speaker 5: and then for you can pre order like DVDs and
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  Speaker 5: Blu rays if you want, and everyone who contributes gets
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  Speaker 5: a cool like some of these little certificates that I
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  Speaker 5: get printed out with the poster on it and it
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  Speaker 5: says you're an official contributor and I sign it and
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  Speaker 5: it's got the date and all that on there. That
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  Speaker 5: you know, at every level you you get one, and
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  Speaker 5: it's just it's just, you know, fun little things that
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  Speaker 5: you can do. Plus we have collectibles as well. I
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  Speaker 5: mean I got like a it's a cool puzzle. We
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  Speaker 5: have like a jigsaw puzzle that's got just there's this
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  Speaker 5: cool even Queen of Snakes though there's a woman who
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  Speaker 5: named Christy Williams who played the Missus Davis the Friend,
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  Speaker 5: and she's a really talented photographer and she did like
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  Speaker 5: I call my Jim Henson shot where there's always great
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  Speaker 5: pictures of Jim Henson surrounded by muppets, and I did
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  Speaker 5: one where it's basically me surrounded by my monsters, and
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  Speaker 5: we got it and I actually sell that, and I'll
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  Speaker 5: sign I sell signed copies of that and stuff eight
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  Speaker 5: by tens if people want them. But I had that.
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  Speaker 5: One of the actually the fans of the movies, a
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  Speaker 5: guy named Barry Perkins who's a really nice guy and
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  Speaker 5: actually it's now transitioned into helping with a lot of
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  Speaker 5: props and stuff. He suggested the idea of He's like,
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  Speaker 5: I really think this would make a great puzzle. There's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of stuff on there. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: colors and different things that would make it like a
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  Speaker 5: really nice puzzle. So we looked into it and found
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  Speaker 5: a place that would make them, and we I mean
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  Speaker 5: this was you know, last spring, so it was like, well,
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  Speaker 5: people need stuff to do at home, so let's make puzzles.
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  Speaker 5: But then there's just like we do little stuffed animals
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  Speaker 5: and you know, so DVDs and little Steve people puppets
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  Speaker 5: from Damy Johnson says the world.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of you said, you also had a
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  Speaker 1: t t Republic Tea Public.
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  Speaker 2: You can go get T shirts.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Tea Public Tea Public, which if you go
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  Speaker 5: to my website you can there's links to it. But
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  Speaker 5: otherwise I think it's tea Public slash memo Verse and
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  Speaker 5: it's got I've just designed a bunch of T shirts
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  Speaker 5: you can buy off there, and you know, te Public
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  Speaker 5: is reputable and it's got really good prices, like fourteen
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  Speaker 5: bucks for a t shirt and a lot of like
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  Speaker 5: the monsters and other random stuff on there. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't make a lot of money out
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  Speaker 5: of that. But I get enough people asking for T shirts,
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  Speaker 5: but not enough that I want to spend money getting
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  Speaker 5: them made, because the last time I did that, I
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  Speaker 5: ended up with a lot of adults smalls that know.
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  Speaker 2: WoT do you have a Facebook page that you can
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  Speaker 2: I think?
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  Speaker 5: I think, yeah, there's a there's a Films of Christopher
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  Speaker 5: omm facebook page. There's a there's an Instagram for the
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  Speaker 5: memo verse. There's a Twitter feed that I think is
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  Speaker 5: just basically fed by both of those two things. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there's all all the social media.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect all right, Well, you know us at Frime Mays.
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  Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook at Fright Maar's podcast,
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  Speaker 1: same with Instagram, Twitter, Fright Maar's Underscore Pod. Catch me
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  Speaker 1: on a letterbox at doctor Proctor or Fright mayor or something.
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  Speaker 2: You're on letterbox as well, Corey, shoot.
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  Speaker 4: Us an email at Stay Spooky outlook dot com.
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  Speaker 2: That's the one.
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  Speaker 1: If you have any ideas for episodes, or you want
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  Speaker 1: tell us what you're liking, tell us what you're not liking. Chris,
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  Speaker 1: if you could just stay on the phone, I'm just
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: gonna end the episode and then, Yeah, anything else you
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  Speaker 1: want to say, Corey, is that No, this has been
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  Speaker 1: It's been fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time out of your day
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  Speaker 1: to do this. It's been It's been an honor. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait for the future of the Memo Verse. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully one of these days if you do go back
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  Speaker 1: to theaters, I'll come up there and I'll watch one
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  Speaker 1: of the new screenings in the theaters. But who knows
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  Speaker 1: when that will ever happen again, because.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, really, first off, thank you guys for having me on.
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  Speaker 5: This has been really fun. It's really nice to talk
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  Speaker 5: about obviously my movies, but then also to get into
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: stuff like alien like that that's a little creepy, I
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  Speaker 5: like that that we you know, it's just maybe it's
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: just that era of growing up then or what. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, but yeah, if you get a chance and
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  Speaker 5: I will say, this is like, once this COVID thing
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  Speaker 5: is gone and we try to get back to some
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: sort of semblance of normalcy. One of the things I
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  Speaker 5: always like to push is I every year when I
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  Speaker 5: release a movie, I always do a big premiere at
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  Speaker 5: a local theater here that's the longest continuously running theater
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  Speaker 5: in Minnesota that literally goes back to the silent days
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  Speaker 5: and it has this cool art deco look and feel.
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  Speaker 5: We always do this big premiere and it's always we
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  Speaker 5: always sell it out, and it's it's it's it's more
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  Speaker 5: than just going to a movie. So I always tell people,
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  Speaker 5: you know, once we finally get out of whatever the
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  Speaker 5: hell all this is, maybe that'd be something. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it'd be great if you guys come up and check
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  Speaker 5: out that event, or anyone listening who checks out my
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  Speaker 5: movies enjoys them. It's it's one of the it's like
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  Speaker 5: my favorite thing we do every year. And we have
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  Speaker 5: people who literally will buy tickets the moment they go
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  Speaker 5: on sale because it's just it's just fun and weird
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  Speaker 5: and unique and different.
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  Speaker 1: And you'll keep that, you'll keep that up to date
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  Speaker 1: on the website. I would assume correct absolutely, all right, perfect, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I will be sure to keep track of that and
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  Speaker 1: update anybody on the podcast. If anybody wants to go
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  Speaker 1: up there, I know, I guess I once this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing is over, I would love to go up there
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  Speaker 1: and see one of your movies on the big string.
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  Speaker 2: I think that'd be so much fun.
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  Speaker 4: I think that would be an experience that would be
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  Speaker 4: unlike pretty much anything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean you're like, no, no one's
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  Speaker 1: really doing this where you're making these old, cheezy fun
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  Speaker 1: movies like It's it's It would be such an experience
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  Speaker 1: to see that and you know, see it where it
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  Speaker 1: should be, which is on a giant screen with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people, and you know, at the volume at
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  Speaker 1: at volume eleven, that's what that's where I want to
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  Speaker 1: see these movies going.
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  Speaker 5: Forward, so well and seeing and having that you I've
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  Speaker 5: seen so many of them. You'll be in good company
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  Speaker 5: because a lot of the people that especially go to
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  Speaker 5: those premieres are the people who really like it. So
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  Speaker 5: it becomes this sort of I don't know, it's a
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  Speaker 5: party atmosphere of just like we're all here to have
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  Speaker 5: fun and hang out and just have a good time.
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  Speaker 5: So definitely. As soon as we can get back to this,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to excellent.
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  Speaker 1: All right, We'll go ahead and stay in the line. Chris,
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  Speaker 1: and to all of our listeners, tune in next week.
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  Speaker 1: Me and Gabby, you're gonna be doing some horror comedies.
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  Speaker 1: Corey's gonna sneeze himself out over there in the corner.
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  Speaker 1: And until then, guys, stay tuned and stay spooky.